1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: My theory is that there's two types of quarterbacks, and 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: pretty simple, there's guys whouldn't win it and guys who can't. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: I said a woman named chat Still, I said, I 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: actually worked for the Ravens because you're not Tony guns Oze. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: I thought you're Tony guns, I said. I said, no, sir, 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I get that a lot. But my wife said, I'm 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: a lot better looking than he. And he goes, yeah, 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: stick with her and turns around. Welcome back into the lounge. 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: I am Ryan Mink and I'm gart Downing, And uh, 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: do you have a great Super Bowl weekend? You enjoined? No? No, no, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: not at all, actually, and I think back it was like, dude, 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the company was good, the Buffalo chicken wraps were good. No, no, 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: I hated it. You didn't like seeing Brady and the 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Patriots hoist or fifth, not one little itty bit. It 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: was a good game, though that had that had to 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: go down. I was sitting there watching them, like, this 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: is one of the craziest football games I think I've 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: ever seen, and it's definitely got to be one of 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: the biggest heartbreak games of any sport that I can 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: have ever imagined. That's like that's like buck nerth through 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the legs kind of a situation. Like just after that 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: was one play that was like summed up in five seconds. 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: This was like a yeah, oh god, brutal, but you 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: probably enjoyed it because you were rooting for the Patriots, 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: weren't you You sick being admitted. I wouldn't say that. 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We we have other stuff. Get 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: into that for the bulk of this podcast. What we 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: want to do, we want to do things a little 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: bit different for everybody today. You know, usually this time 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: of year, everyone's talking free agency, who's gonna be back, 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: who the Raven is gonna try to sign, the draft, 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: all that stuff. We've got plenty of time to talk 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: about that stuff. We don't need to do that every 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: single time on the podcast. So what we're gonna do today, 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. We're gonna do a little 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Raven Raven Eyed podcast related to Super Bowl fifty one. 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: It's Medley. I would like to say, we have three 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: different interviews with people with ties to the Ravens who 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: were at Super Bowl fifty one. They're there in Houston. 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna share their perspective on what went down. In 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: that wild game. So the three people we have on first, one, 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: you guys probably all know him, you've seen him on 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: TV a million times. This is vice president of public 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: Relations Chad Steele. He's a vice president, our vice president 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: of public relations from Ravens, but he was working at 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the NFL on the sidelines helping them out just for 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: the game, so that's why. And he kind of blew 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: up last year with Peyton Manning now this year, so 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: we'll get to chat exactly. The other guests that we 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: have is our team photographer Shawn Hubbard. He was there 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: on the sideline shooting pictures of Super Both fifty one. 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: He's done this in past few bowls because he's one 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: of the best photographers out there. Uh. And then lastly 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: but not leastly, is a former intern of ours here 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: who now works for the Atlanta Falcons and a job 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: very similar to ours, Kelsey Conway. So she's gonna kind 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: of share the heartbreaking side of this story where the 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: other two guys they got to see it up close 59 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: to the triumph. Yes, uh so really interesting podcasts coming 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: to you. And like we said, let's start it out 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: with Chad. I think he's a good one Chad Steele. 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: As you all know, he was the man behind Peyton 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: the hashtag that blew up on Twitter last year because 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: he was right behind Peyton Manning as he did all 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: of his postgame interviews after the Super Bowl. Uh. Now 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: this year, right back again, I'm watching the Super Bowl pages. 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: When Tom Brady comes out on the field, there's my 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: boy Chad right there in the frame. Again. So Chad, 69 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the podcast. So my first question 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: to you is are you assigned to Brady? Are you 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: assigned to the Patriots. What's your assignment? So during the game, 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I was assigned to Aaron Andrews, the sideline reporter for 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the Falcon So I was over on their side helping 74 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: her out with injury information and you know, anything they need. Uh. 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: And then I'm assigned to Tom Brady afterwards. Because each player, 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: particularly the quarterback, has specific things they have to do. 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: They have to do the league partners, they have to 78 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: do so win or lose. I was with Brady, and 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: what I guess is what not as popular. A couple 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: of years before the Super Bowl New York with the 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Broncos, I had Russell Wilson and I 82 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: guess there wasn't as much fanfare around him, but so, 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: uh and so we get our game day assignments on 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday before the game. So I've just happened to have 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks each time. So I'm thinking about marketing it because 86 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, the guys in the Super Bowl is like, hey, 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: if I get children for your guy, you know you win. 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: So we're we're we're assigned on Wednesday before the game. 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Who we have and just break down the scene for us. 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: You know, what's it like in the final minutes? Are 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: you are you thinking all right the Patriots about to 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: win or yeah? It was chaos? Well, you know, I'm 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the Atlanta sideline the whole time and 94 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: they're dominating. So I'm like, okay, boy, he's gonna be 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: really pissed. How am I gonna get Tom into the 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: media room and not pull a Cam Newton from last year? Uh? So, 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, with a min or or two to go, 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, ran over the Patriots sideline and uh, I 99 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: flipped my credential over because it says chat steal Baltimore 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: Ravens on there. And I went up to one of 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: the security guys and I said, hey, you know, my 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: name's Chat I'm with NFL PR. I'm helping out Tom 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: after the game. Are you the guys with him? And 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: he said no, it's on the other thirty. You know 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Ryan and Garrett. You go talk to them. So I 106 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: would go over to that side and said, hey, I'm 107 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: chat with an VOPR. Are you guys with him? They 108 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: said yes, it's the four of us. And I said, okay, 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm helping out. I'm doing PR, so I need to 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: be with him. I just want to make sure I 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: can get in there. They're like, okay, perfect. So they're 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: driving at this point to tie the game, and uh 113 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: so they go and they tie it up. We're going 114 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: into over time and it's like, oh, man, like if 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: they score, it's gonna be chaos. So I'm just standing. 116 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm standing next to the security guys making sure they 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're right there, and then driving, driving, driving, driving, 118 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: and then I see there on the seven yard line 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, and I'm like, man, I gotta get in 120 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: a position because there are twenty It's twenty people deep 121 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: at the sideline. So I had to run on the 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: side to make sure I was in the That first 123 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: rung on the sideline and as soon as they score 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: and I see the confetti go up, I run out 125 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: to him and he's yelling everybody get off the field, 126 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: get off the field, because one of the officials says, hey, 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: we have to review it. Get off the field. Move, move, moved. 128 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: Butific no, no, yeah, yeah, probably. He's like, I know, 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: you're um and uh. And so as I get off 130 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the field and I'm like, Tom, this is a rat 131 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: and he's like, no, no, they're reviewing it. I said, look, 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: there's confetti all over the field. There are five thousand 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: people on the field. They're not gonna they're not gonna 134 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: be able to clear it, even if it's not a 135 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: touchdown touchdown, and so he was like he he was insistent, 136 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: it's like everybody, get away, get off the field, and uh. 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: And then I finally here in on the radio in 138 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: my ear they said, hey, it's confirmed, it's a touchdown. 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, it's a touchdown. It's confirmed. It's over, 140 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and he goes, no, no, I've got to hear and 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: that's it's over. And so I think an official yelled 142 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: and said it's confirmed. And that's when he dropped down 143 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: to his knees and some some of the teammates started 144 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: coming over and then it's just it's just a crush 145 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: and we're trying to keep people away, and his security 146 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: people were trying to keep a little bit of a perimeter. 147 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: But it's just you're getting stepped on elbow push. I mean, 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: it's it is a mess. It's straightly lion king, you 149 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: know when the wilderbeests come down the ravine and then 150 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: they have to why are you looking at me? Like 151 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: I've never seen lion king. Yeah, but I just I 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: don't associate I guess lion king with the end of situation. 153 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: But stamping, I could see that I can stamping. So 154 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: how many people did you have either text you or 155 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: write to you on Twitter and say you're a trader 156 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: for now joining the Patriots? Oh, it's you know, I 157 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: think it was. It was worse last year. This year 158 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: it's I think people you understand, people understand, Okay, hey 159 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: it's you. You know, you're kind of helping out. But 160 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: it's still when I got my assignment, I was like, God, 161 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: what's he trying to do to It's it's it's it's uncomfortable. 162 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: Um side story to this I'm I'm at the Maryor 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: at Marquis R Hotel and Robert Kraft on Tuesday is 164 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: getting a tour of the Maryor at my key because 165 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 1: they had a they had a a party there and 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: uh and he walks over to me and he sticks 167 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: his hand out and he goes, hey, Tony, and I said, 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I said, no, sir, my name is not Tony. And 169 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: he goes, uh. He said you're not. Who are you? 170 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: And I said, I said a woman named Chad Still. 171 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: I said I actually worked for the Ravens. And he 172 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: had this smile and face and he goes, oh and uh, 173 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: and I said yeah, I said, but because you're not 174 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Tony Gunzalez, I thought you're Tony Gunzalez. I said, I said, no, sir, 175 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: I get that a lot. But my wife said I'm 176 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: a lot better looking than he is. And he goes, yeah, 177 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: stick with her and turns around. And the tone of 178 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: the conversation completely changed when I mentioned Baltimore Ravens. So 179 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so nervous. I'm like, God, what are 180 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: they doing to me? They don't want to see me 181 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: over on that sideline. But he was the Tom was gracious, 182 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: he was he was good. Yeah. He he didn't want 183 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: to do anything, which I understand. He's like, I just 184 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: want to be with my teammates. I just want to 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: be with my family. Were like, look, you have to 186 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: do Fox like they broadcast, you have to do that, 187 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: you have to do Westwood One. He has a he 188 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: has a relationship with Jim gray Um, so he's willing 189 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: to do that, but trying to get him to the 190 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: stage was a mess. Then he's like, I gotta see 191 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: my family. I'm not going up till I see my family. 192 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: So we're like, where's your family. He's like, I don't 193 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: know in some sweet and I'm like great, So yeah, 194 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: So we finally get him get get this family down there. 195 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: He goes up and does a trophy presentation. I'm like, okay, 196 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: we have to do the m v P podium and 197 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: he's like, no, I don't want to do that. I 198 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: just want to be with my family. And I'm like, look, 199 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: we'll bring your whole family in there, but we've got 200 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: to go, and so he was and he ended up 201 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: doing it, but he just and even the stuff you 202 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to do, he said no to very polite 203 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: about it, and he thanked us afterwards, he's like, thank 204 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: you guys. You guys were great. Thanks so much. So, um, 205 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: are you literally leading him, you know, say hey, this 206 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: is what's up next, this is what you have to do. 207 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: This is the expectation, and you have to present that 208 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: to him. Yes, and he's saying no. He says he 209 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: wants to spend more time with his family, So you 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: should say, you know what, time, you can spend a 211 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: lot more time with your family if you were time. Yeah, 212 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: I did, and he just said, yeah, no, I'm good, 213 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: and I think I'll keep on exactly exactly. So I 214 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: want to know. Also, everybody's trying to figure this out. 215 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I think you know, this has been the debate about 216 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: man behind Peyton and all this stuff. Would you are 217 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: you willing to admit right now on our podcast that 218 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: you purposefully get in the shot? No? Okay, come on, okay, 219 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: this is a safe place. Yes, yes, and no. This 220 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: is this is the thing last year with Peyton. As 221 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: soon as the game was over, I think the first 222 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: thing we did was NBC, who's broadcasting the game BCBS, Right, 223 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: So he does, he starts that interview and somebody grabs 224 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: me and I turn around and I'm talking to them 225 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: for like twenty seconds, and Peyton had already finished the interview, 226 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: and I turned background to get the Peyton and he's 227 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: walking and they're like fifty people in between us, and 228 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: he's just walking aimlessly. So I'm like trying to fight 229 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: through to get because he's just he's like he doesn't 230 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: know where to go. So if if you're not right 231 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: in their hip pocket, you can't get your job done. 232 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: So am I purposely right next to them? Yes? Am 233 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: I purposely trying to get in the shot? No? But 234 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a six ft seven mixed guy next to 235 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: guy like I I stand out a little, but I'm 236 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: not how tall you are? Five nine six? How what 237 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: do you? Five? Five eleven as we debated on the 238 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: last podcast, five eleven and a half a solid Svelt fit. 239 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: So you're five eleven and six two with the with 240 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: the half row that you've got, so you might not 241 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: be as conspicuous, but I seem to be seen a little. Yes, 242 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: you definitely, but I want to make sure everybody saw 243 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: the purple tie. I was representing the Ravens. I was 244 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: representing the Ravens. Nice, very nice, cool, well, Chad Steel, 245 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Thank you very much thanks for sharing some stories with us. 246 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Appreciate absolutely. Man. Now the other interesting part 247 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: of this, so we're gonna bring on Shawn Hubbard. The 248 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: interesting thing about Sean is that he also was assigned 249 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: to Tom Brady and he also saw a chat up 250 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: close and personal on the sidelines on the field. And 251 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: before we roll this interview with Sean, I just want 252 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: to give you guys a heads up. The audio quality 253 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: on this is less than stellar. Does it sound so good? 254 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: We're working through some new technology on this. This interview 255 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: was done over the phone, and so was our next 256 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: one that we'll get to. But these interviews there little 257 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: quieter is what you have to do is we roll this, 258 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: you have to turn up the audio while you're listening 259 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: to this a little bit. And we promise that in 260 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: future episodes we will clean up the audio and figure 261 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: out the technology. It can be tricky, but we'll figure 262 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: that out and have better audio quality for phone interviews 263 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: in the future. So again, here's our interview with Sean Hubbard. So, yeah, 264 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: so you were on the sideline, Shawn, So tell us, 265 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, just what was it like, 266 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: What was the atmosphere like there? It was pretty liketric. 267 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: It seemed like there were as many if you're fans, 268 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: are Falcons fans so um and to retire when each 269 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: team was expectively doing well. Um. But it just like 270 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: any other troop, pol it seemed like it's always kind 271 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: of like an extra electricity in the air. And what 272 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: was your assignment specifically? So we're working with the NFL 273 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: photo team. We have a number of guys, uh during 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: the game U merch of that have a thought that 275 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: we say in the whole time. So it's a little 276 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: bit different than how we see with the Ravens and 277 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: kind of roam around and follow the acting. Um. I 278 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: was in one of the corners of the Falcon gen zone, 279 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: uh the entire game, and then afterwards my assignment was 280 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: through photographed the winning quarterback, so obviously the winning quarterbacks. 281 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's kind of funny. We talked to Chad Steele 282 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: earlier today in his assignment, and I'm sure you're well 283 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: aware of this, was that post game, his assignment was 284 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: to be with Tom Brady, followed him wherever he went. 285 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: So here's a question, how many of your pictures of 286 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was Chad inconspicuously about six inches from Brady's 287 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: face right there for the cameras. If I had to 288 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: the exact number, I would probably just say most of them. Uh. 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Last year, I was really surprised to see him also 290 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: known as a guy behind for that Super Bowl. So 291 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: with can you kind of describe how crazy that atmosphere 292 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: is like post game? I mean you look at the 293 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: field and just watching it on TV, particularly around a 294 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: guy like peytonating a guy like Tom Brady, There's like 295 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: five people that are all trying to crowd around is 296 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: get the perfect picture to get that moment. How insane 297 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: is that as you're trying to just find any kind 298 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: of way to go to good picture in that environment. Yeah, 299 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's exactly what it looks like. It's chaotic. Um. 300 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: You know you have all all of these guys trying 301 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: to get the same position in the same photos. So um, 302 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, knowing that was gonna be my finement, I 303 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: tried to get out for Tom Brady as quickly as 304 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: possible and seeing that they have just scoreded that end zone, 305 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have far to go, so that was great. 306 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: I want to get there. You know, that's really unpredictable 307 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: where you know he's gonna go, you know, so sometimes 308 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: it's ward here, you're right there all the times he 309 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: could turn his back. Uh, and then you don't have 310 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: a picture necessarily. So you have the security guard and 311 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Chad who are you know, immediately around them trying to 312 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: keep people away from them, and then you have everyone 313 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: behind you that drums us, the attackers pushing in, trying 314 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to drew you know, whatever they can to get in 315 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: there and get there got so, you know, if you're 316 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: trying to just hold your ground, is it's the most 317 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: important part. And then if you're if you're lucky, you know, 318 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: make the pictures. Sometimes you're able to actually look through 319 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: the camera and be right there and think about things 320 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: like composition and and and all that stuff. And other 321 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: times you're holding your camera up overhead and just kind 322 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: of praying that you you know, you get something because 323 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: you're you're working around someone in front of you. So 324 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: it's you're challenging and you just kinda stay in there 325 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: and and turn to the vest. So is that why 326 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: you lift weights? I mean you're almost as muscular as 327 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, you lift weights so that you can 328 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: like flight off other fatime overs and have you ever 329 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: had to like take somebody out to get the shot. No, No, 330 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: I haven't I take anybody out. And and really, you know, 331 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I would never sort of impose my will on someone 332 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: to get a shot. You know, you once you're there, 333 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: you know you you can hold your ground, and I 334 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: think maybe uh, you think up with my fitness has 335 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: certainly in that regard um, but um, yeah, you know 336 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. It's like there's so much you know, 337 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: everyone's trying, but there's a lot of mutual respect there. 338 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're lucky enough to get into 339 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: position and then you're great and you have your shot. 340 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: But if you're not, you know, in the in the 341 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: spot that you want, you would never you know, get 342 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: somebody out of the ways to take her over. You 343 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: just kind of because you know, somebody could turn around 344 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: and the next minute you have the shot. So you 345 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: just kind of you kind of roll with it. So 346 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like an untold code of respect there 347 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: among photographers. There's not like a survival of the fittest 348 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: method that just like, hey, I'm going to get a 349 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: picture no matter what. There's gotta be some guys that 350 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: are kind of like that, like I don't care if 351 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: you're a position, I'm just gonna try to box you 352 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: out of the late for last second. No, yeah, I 353 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: know there maybe, but I think I think that the 354 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: top guys in the industry, which is you know, usually 355 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: do at the thrower bawl. I think they all get it, 356 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: um and I there there may be some misters. I know, 357 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: I've had a little bit of experience with them, some 358 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: dirty play, but um, you know, do tell. So what's 359 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: your craziest story from from a postgame scrum like that? Well, 360 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: it's actually the Super Bowl that the Ravens made to 361 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: and obviously the postgame photo that everyone everyone wanted from 362 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: that game was the Hardball Brothers um shaking hands or 363 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: whatever they thought they were gonna do at the time. So, um, 364 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: I I made my way out there, uh you know, 365 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: because of other photographers and as they were coming together, 366 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: I was winding at my shouts. And the next day 367 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: he decided for whatever reason, uh that he was gonna 368 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: grab my right arm, which the arm I hold my 369 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: camera with, and just kind of pulled out of the way. 370 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I couldn't quite get my camera up to my face, 371 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: but luckily I just decided to keep tenking pictures no 372 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: matter what. And uh I was able to come up 373 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: um with one frame that was that was visible, but 374 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: it's certainly needed challenging. Nice all right, John, Well, thank 375 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: you so much. We really appreciate appreciate the insight. And uh, 376 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: tell people, you know, since Ravens fans they see your pictures, 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: you're you're fantastic pictures on the Ravens, you know, remobile 378 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: channels and website and all the time. But where can 379 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: they find you were Super Bowl shots if they wanted 380 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: to see someone? Sure? My my main website is Sean 381 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Hubbard photo dot com and there you can see a 382 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: collection of my Ravens work and some of the Super 383 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Bowls of shots for the NFL. And then my social channels. 384 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: The really Instagram is the one that I used the most, 385 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: and my Instagram handle is Shawn Underscore Hubbard. So yeah, 386 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: hopefully you know, Ravens fans don't get too upset by 387 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: seeing some pictures of Time Brady on there. But yeah, 388 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm definitely luckily I have the opportunity, um, you know, 389 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: to take those kinds of pictures and and show them 390 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: so awesome. Well, thank you so much. Let me appreciate it. 391 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: Thanks man, thanks for having guys picker. All right, well, 392 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: good stuff from Sean. Now to take a look at 393 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: the other side, the other side of this coin. Uh, 394 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: the heartbreaking loss from the Falcons just absolutely brutal. Whenever 395 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: there's a great winner, there's always somebody on the other 396 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: side of this saying. And unfortunately for Falcons fans, they 397 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: are probably trying to just come to grips with the 398 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: last you know, seventy two hours off. We each have 399 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring. Thank god, I almost wore it 400 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: to polish it off after the Falcons lost and be like, 401 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for this. Yeah, it honestly really reminds 402 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: you of how difficult it is to win, when how 403 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: everything needs to go right, how just one play can 404 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: change things. And you know, Falcons fans are dealing with 405 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: that right now. So one person that doesn't have a 406 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings for former intern of ours who now 407 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: works the Falcons. She came pretty darn close to getting one. 408 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: This is Kelsey Conway. Healthy used to be an intern 409 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: here in our digital be in the department, and we 410 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: are sad to see you a very very unfortunate and 411 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: now she's basically doing our job. Because houses we're doing 412 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot better than we do it here said we 413 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: set the bar low. But Kelsey, thank you for joining us. 414 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: We want to get from your perspective what it was 415 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: like on the other side. So run us through kind 416 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: of how it all went down for you once you 417 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: bowl Sunday. Sunday. I didn't remember talking to one of 418 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: our radio analysts and halftime, so what do we have 419 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: to do to you know, keep the speed and he 420 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: was like, nothing, we have to keep doing exactly what 421 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: we're doing. So yeah, and I as a former NFL player, 422 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: and in the third quarter everything was going us planned 423 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: and I had just about finished up my doing recap 424 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: story and if Peper Bowl with stop seven minutes ago, 425 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: they walked the media down and so I haven't leaved 426 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes before then in the fourth quarter 427 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: to get down to have to do instant reaction post 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: game interviews. So put me a little bit to sit 429 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: down to the field. And when I got down to 430 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: the field, I looked up at the scoreboard and the 431 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: game was within eight points and I lost the game, 432 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: fall apart on the sideline and you pretty much with death. 433 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: So that's about how that went down. So when you 434 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: left the press box, what was the score? Um was 435 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: three of that point? I just believe it was twenty 436 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: nine when you left. Yeah, okay, all right today miss 437 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: extra point. I missed the whole sequence of the Matt 438 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Ryan um back humble um and missed all that. And 439 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: when I um finally got down to the field, I 440 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: was able to see the Patriots go for to and 441 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: get it. And I have to come clean here because 442 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: I think that I will take some responsibility for dancing 443 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: this whole situation, because I did send me. I did 444 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: send the preemptive text. I think somewhere in the third 445 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: quarter around oh yeah, pull it up, pull it up, 446 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: pulling it up right now, and I'm really just read 447 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: it and I was like, yeah, Garrett's definitely at fall, 448 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: Garrett Downing, You're gonna pa a superbole babout havellationalational and 449 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: I said, pretty well, I'm happy for you, awful hun 450 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: being Downing. I'm not terrible human. It was three at 451 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: that point. I was like, third core, there's no way 452 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: that the result here is going to change. Look, I 453 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: thought about text and Kelsey the same message, but I 454 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: thought better of it. You know, I'll congratulator after the wind. 455 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: That's what a decent human does. I just wanted to 456 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: be the first. I wanted to jump the gun to 457 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: be the first. Yeah. Well, you know, just like you 458 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: know sometimes news you can't always who hears about that. 459 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you get it wrong, as long 460 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: as you get your you know, your recentets up. So 461 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: so what I also want to talk about this is 462 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: because you know, we remember vividly still to this day, 463 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: when it felt like in the ANFC Championship up in 464 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: New England and the Lee Evans dropped the Billy Kundiff 465 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: miss and that I was in a state of depression 466 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: for months. I remember literally two weeks later, standing in 467 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: the shower and just being like I can't move and 468 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: I never want to leave the shower, and it's just 469 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: all I couldn't stop thinking about it. I could not 470 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: stop thinking about it. So there you go, to Kelsey, 471 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: You're in the first stage of grieving right now. You 472 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: have more to record too. I would say that although 473 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: that does being very horrible, I mean at twenty five 474 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: point only and on the biggest stage in the world, 475 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: pretty much, I don't think he can never be ye. 476 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yours is worse. You just topic. I think 477 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: it just takes it to another level, like you know 478 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: how you like that that didn't just happen and then 479 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: they're like, yes, that's so it. What's it been like 480 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: for you since, like if you had nightmares or what. 481 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't wake up this morning, well at least extremely 482 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: hard to wake up, since I'm so tired from the 483 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: whole week and everything. I just like that a dream, 484 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: my dreaming that that happened. I'm not gonna lie. I 485 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: kind of pod up like this, but because I just 486 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, when you're that close to something and it's 487 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: just taken from you, it's pretty rutal feeling. I can't 488 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: even in the words what I feel that like with 489 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: the guys on the team, like the think fast must feel. 490 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: But hey, they're all moving on, so I gotta move. Yeah. 491 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: I mean, if you need a little shot of optimism, 492 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't think the Ravens win the Super Bowl in 493 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: two thousands twelve if they don't have the awful ending 494 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: to the SC Championship in two thousand and eleven. That 495 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: was like a driver and everything was about getting back 496 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: to that point and all that stuff. So if you're 497 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: trying to spend this spin zone here, maybe maybe you'll 498 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: be able to get back to that point sometime soon. Well, 499 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: I've really I'm really glad that he said that, because 500 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: I feel like all everyone talks about is how hard 501 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: it really do get back and aren't head So just 502 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: said that are going to use this as fuel. There 503 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: we go, Scar, Scar will never be forgotten. So I'm 504 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: really hoping that plenty. Paul Braven did it? Sure? Yeah, 505 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: Well maybe we'll see you next year in Minneapolis. That 506 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: goal Ravens Falcon super Bowl for sure, for sure. Well, 507 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, Kelsey, and uh, 508 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully this doesn't linger too. I'm sure you'll 509 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: shake it off. You're tough, good luck in through this. 510 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a real a couple of weeks. I'll 511 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: just give you here one if I if I need 512 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: um some more old spot, I'll be yea. We can 513 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: wear our suit bowl rings anytime. Kelsey. Oh sorry, Kels, 514 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: Sorry Kelsey. Yeah, well thank you that was that was 515 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: a little bit alry Kelsey. All right, thanks for joining us, Kelsey. 516 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Kelsey for joining us. And I also 517 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: just want to say one more time that we're sorry 518 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: for the bad audio quality on those phone interviews. We're 519 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: working through some new technology, so they were not what 520 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: we expect and not what you expect. We're going to 521 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: get that figured out and bring you better quality audio 522 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: interviews over the phone for the future. And uh, but 523 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: we told her, you know, some times these things can 524 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, can it can be 525 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: a motivator. I hope for her sake, I absolutely hope that, uh, 526 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, the Falcons were able to kind of use 527 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: us as a positive thing and and move forward from that. Yeah, 528 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: for sure. So back to the topic that we started 529 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: this on, you rooting for the Patriots. Well, okay, so 530 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: there's two things. First of all, let me read this email, 531 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: because this was a great email that we got from 532 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: John and Kane and alas always, you guys can email 533 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: the show at this is this is what I was 534 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: referring to at the Lounge NFL dot. So I made 535 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the point in the podcast that I can understand people 536 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: rooting for the Patriots because of the whole Matt Ryan 537 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco comparison thing, and you want to just and 538 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: you want to see Flacco have that edge and winning. 539 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: And so John wrote, my god, doubting are you insane here? Insane? 540 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: Hearing that you're rooting for Brady and the Patriots to 541 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: win is sickening. What's wrong with you? My man? Mickey 542 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: has this exactly right. I totally respect the Steelers, not 543 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: tom is so much after you stepped on the field 544 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: of block CHERB. Jones if years ago, but as a 545 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: team isn't As an organization, they are one of the best. 546 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: Not to mention their history, legendary stuff there. But to 547 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: root for that up, I need to cut out a 548 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: couple of people. You can't read a straight man, Well, yeah, 549 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: I can't read a straight John was getting a little 550 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: too yeah for a few choice words in there. Um, 551 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: But to root for the Patriots is a serious breach 552 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: of judgment that you should immediately reverse and apologize to 553 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: all of us for this most serious transaggression. Otherwise, keep 554 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: up the fight and mostly good reporting. Thank you, thank you, jologize. Okay. 555 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, and part of the reason that 556 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I was kind of pulling for the Patriots is that 557 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I've got a theory and I wanted my theory to 558 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: be borne out, which it was, and you were on 559 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: the other side of this theory. We've had this debate 560 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: hundreds of times, and my theory is that there's two 561 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: types of quarterbacks. It's pretty simple. There's guys who can 562 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: win it and guys who can't, and so and so 563 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: always gonna be one or two exceptions. Always wanted two 564 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: exceptions to a rule, and that's the case. You know, 565 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: everyone said Trent deal for blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, Well, 566 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: he also had perhaps the greatest defensive all time. My 567 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: theory is that there's two types of quarterbacks. And I 568 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: have long said that I don't think that Matt Ryan 569 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: is a guy who can win at all, and that 570 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: was proven this weekend. When your team has a twenty 571 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: five point win and you need to do smart things 572 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: at the end of a game to win it, and 573 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: you don't do it. And the guy on the other side, 574 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: obviously Brady, is a guy who can win it all. 575 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: He's done it plenty of times. We all know that. 576 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: And so this was a classic case study in this theory, 577 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: and it proved to be what I have said, all 578 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: you're an idiot, all on. Matt Ryan didn't lose the game. 579 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan played well enough to win that game. He 580 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: played a pretty darn good game. Matt Ryan played well 581 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: enough to win that game. He played a pretty good game. 582 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: So my point is, there are so many factors that 583 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: go into a team winning it all and a quarterback 584 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: winning it all or not, and you can't just like, yeah, 585 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean there's so much luck that's involved. There's a 586 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: defense that's involved, like Trent Dilfer. There's so many different factors, 587 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: so to say, like a guy who's come up short 588 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: or whatever, well that's because they just don't have some 589 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: genetic mutation that makes them able to win the Super Bowl. 590 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: I never said anything about genetic mutation. It's not a 591 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: clutch teen or anything like that. It's a combination of things. 592 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: It's a it's Ryan isn't the GM. It's a Matt Ryan, 593 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: isn't the offensive coordinator who didn't call a run play 594 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: on third and one and who didn't want to ruin 595 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: the ball and booted him out of field goal. I 596 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: think that's a great point. You bring it up guys 597 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: that are can win it. Brady in that situation. Do 598 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: you think Brady? Do you think Brady is a guy? Well? 599 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: What I do know is that the guy's got five rings, 600 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: and I think that Brady in that situation, maybe he 601 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: calls an audible, Maybe he says to the offensive coordinator 602 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: that salt this thing away and get just run time 603 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: off the clock. Do you think Brady takes the sad 604 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: act on that situation line broke down the way that 605 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's line broke down. That's just that's what I've taken. 606 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: That s that's a play or you can't take a sack. 607 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: Everybody knows it. And he took a sack and had 608 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: dropped him back out of field goal range. And so 609 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: I think that is Matt Ryan a good quarterback. Yeah, 610 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: he's he's a good He's in the m v P. 611 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a he's a good quarterback. He put 612 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: up huge status this year. And there's are plenty of 613 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: examples of guys who were like that. And at the 614 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: end of that game, when there were certain things that 615 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: needed to happen or couldn't happen, he didn't get it done. 616 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: And so this is a classic example of there being 617 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: two types of quarterbacks. And you can run through the 618 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: list of guys in the NFL and there's probably only 619 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's probably eight to ten of them in 620 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: the league of guys who can win at all. The 621 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks are gonna win, right. Okay, So if you're saying, like, well, 622 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: there's some exceptions like Trent Dilfer, that's one is Jeff 623 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Hostler, Hoss Stetler, Brad Johnson was that guy that 624 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: you would say, oh, yeah, that's a guy who can 625 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: win a super Well, Brad Johnson, I'll tell you what. 626 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was a great quarterback. Russell Wilson, Yeah, 627 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah. Mark Rippon, Oh, Mark Rippon and one of 628 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: the greatest all time. Of course he's the guy who 629 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: can win a Super Bowl. You don't know. You wouldn't 630 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: have said that until he won it, right, So there's 631 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: all these exceptions to your rule, and once you start 632 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: throwing in will, there's a bunch of exceptions. And basically 633 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: what all your your point is is that the best 634 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks win it the most, which is a no dug 635 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of statement. Of course, the best are going to 636 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: the most, and there's certain guys that there's not. It's 637 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: not black and white, like you're saying, black and white, 638 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: not simple. You gotta get it done throughout the entire game. 639 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: Didn't get it didn't get it done. My boy, what 640 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: is it? John Kane? John Kane, John Kane knows you well. 641 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you are trast Yeah he never said that, but 642 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that even from John. You guys can us 643 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: every week at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 644 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Let us know who Siri you come down, which side 645 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: you come down on? This is pretty easy. Two types 646 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, guys who can win it, guys who can't 647 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: make as a guy who can't win it. I am 648 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: a guy who can win it. So that's gonna finish 649 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: it up for our podcast this week. But thanks for listening. 650 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Subscribe to us on iTunes, let your friends know about it, 651 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: and uh, we appreciate you. Guys, Stop and buy it. 652 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back with you next week on the Lounge.