Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper, He'sagre's your boy in O R.
Speaker 1: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. D J e f N.
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Speaker 1: What up is? D J e FN's really table? Got
Speaker 1: ready to drink drink right now? Listen. You know we
Speaker 1: as as I always do. You know, I do my
Speaker 1: due diligence, and I do my research when I when
Speaker 1: I interview somebody, and I was going through this man's
Speaker 1: catalog and I'm just going through his bars selection. I
Speaker 1: think you might be too good, So let me finish
Speaker 1: my intro. I actually compare this guy, put him up
Speaker 1: there with rock him. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: it comes to lyrical content, I believe he would longed
Speaker 1: in that era when it when it comes when it
Speaker 1: comes to that, the man has to be the most
Speaker 1: loyalist person I've ever seen held his wife down and
Speaker 1: do a whole track, and we need more examples of that.
Speaker 1: He's a lyrical bar lord. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: I think he could wrap with anybody on the track.
Speaker 1: So in case you don't know who the funk I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, I'm about the one and only motherfucker pack
Speaker 1: pools Now. I got to ask you, right, like when
Speaker 1: you and your wife argue, do y'all like battle rap?
Speaker 1: I just thought about that, like like when you like
Speaker 1: it was just what's gonna be? Honestly, I wish we did.
Speaker 1: She had killed me if we did, but the person
Speaker 1: killed me. So let's let's take it from the beginning, right,
Speaker 1: because in the beginning, uh, it was a case slave
Speaker 1: that you got started with and didn't like Buster came on? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? So how did that case slate connection
Speaker 1: and start? Man? Um? I met slave man just you know,
Speaker 1: I mean just being in the hood, and I mean
Speaker 1: hip hop was always my dream, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And coming up in the hood, man, it was just
Speaker 1: so far from reality for me. And then one day
Speaker 1: I was listening to the radio and I heard this
Speaker 1: dude on the radio, but he was playing new artists.
Speaker 1: And back then, if you wasn't coming through Rob a Fella,
Speaker 1: murder In or rough Rider on one of those crews,
Speaker 1: you wasn't getting on. Was this this the drama? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was on how Day seven is a super leger.
Speaker 1: And I'm listening and I'm hearing. I'm like, this dude
Speaker 1: is playing new all this on the radio. I need
Speaker 1: to meet this dude. So I always kept that in
Speaker 1: my mind, you know what I'm saying. And I was
Speaker 1: in the street, I got locked up. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I found myself on the island. Not for a long time,
Speaker 1: a little a couple of weeks, but I'm in there
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, man, when I get out of here,
Speaker 1: I gotta go meet this dude. Man, I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta change my life because this is my future if
Speaker 1: I if I continue doing what I'm doing, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna end up. You know, I'm saying, going up north
Speaker 1: and do some time. So when I get out of here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go meet that dude. And I got out,
Speaker 1: I went to the studio. I recorded seven songs and
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I took the picture for the cover.
Speaker 1: I had the mic and Wayne and the gun and
Speaker 1: the other hand. Put my number on the CD and
Speaker 1: I went up to only seven. I looked it up.
Speaker 1: I ain't had Google and none. I must have used
Speaker 1: yellow Pieces or something. I went to the station and
Speaker 1: I just waited for him man, and he came. He
Speaker 1: came out. Matter. He came, and he was going to
Speaker 1: world game. You know my name, Pat post me? Here
Speaker 1: you go, it's my demo, you know sled. He took
Speaker 1: it and went in the building. I went to the radio.
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I don't hear my song, But did you
Speaker 1: just gonna happen? In my mind? I finally met a
Speaker 1: nigga who on the radio it's up and that happens
Speaker 1: to him every day. Most likely you start missening. You
Speaker 1: wanna play my ship. I'm like, damn, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: this ship again next week. Then come back next week.
Speaker 1: I do it again, same routine, Yo, he go, man,
Speaker 1: same seven songs. What I'm saying, you go my name
Speaker 1: name pas Man Like, I ain't going the building. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to again. I'm like dating game again. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, next time when I go, I'm a
Speaker 1: wait for him, and that way we come out. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to explain to me why he didn't play
Speaker 1: my my music. So I'm listening. He's going for at
Speaker 1: two o'clock, it's like one fifty. I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 1: still don't hear my song. I'm like, let me call
Speaker 1: up on the radio. I call up from down in
Speaker 1: the car. He picks up. I'm like, oh ship. So
Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, what's up. I'm like, yo, man, why
Speaker 1: do you playing my song? He's like you anybody can't
Speaker 1: be a rapper man. Some people gotta be a firing man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is something like I remember exactly
Speaker 1: how old it was, but I was a lot younger.
Speaker 1: So he I'm like, all right, when he comes down,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see this nigger, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he comes down, I'm going at him. He going
Speaker 1: at me. So the person who he was with at
Speaker 1: the time, he got in the middle of us and saying,
Speaker 1: he like, yo, you know you can't do it like that.
Speaker 1: Give me the CD I got you, man. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, whatever, man, I spin off. I'm back in
Speaker 1: the hood again. Now I'm in a situation, but I'm
Speaker 1: about to throw my life away and my phone ring mom.
Speaker 1: In the midst of that, Slay on the phone He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: You're on the radio next week. I'm like wow. And
Speaker 1: then I went up there. He had projecty up the
Speaker 1: arrest in peace. We spit live on the end and
Speaker 1: the rest was history. Man. So eventually bust the rhymes
Speaker 1: because becomes a part of this. How is that busters? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started to me and Slay started flooding the streets
Speaker 1: with a lot of mix tapes and ship and buster
Speaker 1: her when when we was doing it, eventually he reached
Speaker 1: out like, y'all want to funk with this kid? Ain't
Speaker 1: Pam poost man, you know what I mean? And we um.
Speaker 1: We did a couple of records together, hand in. Eventually
Speaker 1: he put me on that big one. Yeah, that should
Speaker 1: change my life. Man. I couldn't go to more nor
Speaker 1: more after that understaying world right, um nah, I met Rem.
Speaker 1: I met Rem like, oh four, No, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: meant slaying oh four. I meant realm like around late
Speaker 1: oh f oh five, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: about mousing around. Let's some champagne ready. By the way,
Speaker 1: your your your drink. I always pay attention to the
Speaker 1: artist drink order and your drink orders. Out of line.
Speaker 1: You picked Tennessee and Dorpy. We are drinking douce s
Speaker 1: just black drinking Spain. Okay. So she told me I
Speaker 1: would have brought I would have brought it. Man, let
Speaker 1: me ask you something like like I said, I bounce
Speaker 1: around a little bit. What how come you ain't never
Speaker 1: have a relationship with Rocket Feller or is there a
Speaker 1: quiet relationship? Um? Nah? Never queenst niggas know each other.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I mean I funk with Bleak, but you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I folk with Bleak now, but back then
Speaker 1: I really a matter of fact, me and Blake actually
Speaker 1: did a mixtape back then too. Um, but I never
Speaker 1: had a relationship with them, with them like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Because you gotta understand Slay sign
Speaker 1: me and Slay and get along with Slay. They didn't
Speaker 1: get along, so that door was like kind of closed
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah yeah, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And the history was a little a little shaky, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That makes sense that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Would you ever want to do a record with j
Speaker 1: or like connect with Hell? Yeah, I would love to,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was a time where, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I did an interview when I said a
Speaker 1: couple of things in the interview, I ask you about that,
Speaker 1: and well, you know, after the interview, I forgot what.
Speaker 1: I think it was a daily news or something like that.
Speaker 1: I did a long ass interview, and somewhere in the
Speaker 1: interview they was like, yo, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think you're the best? I said yeah. They
Speaker 1: said better than jay Z? I say yeah. They said,
Speaker 1: next thing, I know that was the headline King in
Speaker 1: New York. After it was that was a whole another
Speaker 1: but they just took that part. Pat Post says he's
Speaker 1: better than jay Z. You know what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: interview wasn't even about that. I mean, but whatever, Um,
Speaker 1: and that was that. So it went on from that,
Speaker 1: and then I went on. I went in the studio.
Speaker 1: I said, I backed it up, a double down on it.
Speaker 1: I said him better than whatever, whatever, And then um,
Speaker 1: eventually I met him. Though he showed me love. Though
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you're competitive, man. I like that. He
Speaker 1: sees everything. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, like words, so that's crazy. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense now. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I was going through your stuff and like your boss
Speaker 1: is really really complicated. It's really like so I could
Speaker 1: tell that you really think all the way through, Like
Speaker 1: your ship just sense like I'm not my my favorite
Speaker 1: ship right now is bucking Hat No, okay, oh with
Speaker 1: us doing rust Shout the rust Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout
Speaker 1: out the rust Man some type of ship in me,
Speaker 1: Like I was like listening to that. You can forget that.
Speaker 1: I can't play that the rust Man. This is a
Speaker 1: different type of that's his records right now that you
Speaker 1: want to come back to, right, yeah, pick him up.
Speaker 1: Shout the rust Man, which which one of you said
Speaker 1: was the cold one lead damn I for god? Yeah
Speaker 1: that yeah, want to play played that one? We don't
Speaker 1: even do this, We don't even played the first time. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just something to me. Man, That's what's up now.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta say who were the influences behind
Speaker 1: one of your first looks? Was cool Girat right? Yeah, definitely. Man.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, a friend of mine, I mean
Speaker 1: he introduced me the bat I spit for him and
Speaker 1: we did a song called Home, Sweet Funeral Home on
Speaker 1: Roots of Evil album. That's what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: shout out the g Batman big brother Man. Did he
Speaker 1: gotta come outside? I said that on the last episode. Right,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get mad at me, but I'm saying that
Speaker 1: you gotta come out. You gotta come on a drink chat.
Speaker 1: A lot of things got they stabbed from g Man.
Speaker 1: A lot of people top five, So who's your top five?
Speaker 1: My top five is g rap Kane, Biggie, uh Naas
Speaker 1: and Cameras Swan. That's a good rock him honorable mentioned man.
Speaker 1: I need to say I needed me, I needed six.
Speaker 1: I need tend really. But I gotta put okay. I
Speaker 1: gotta put the R in there on number six. I
Speaker 1: gotta put um big pun number seven. I gotta put
Speaker 1: two poc number eight. I gotta put busting rhymes number nine.
Speaker 1: And no mean no particular order my wife man, no tupoc,
Speaker 1: I mean no no holes. Lyrically, I don't got homever
Speaker 1: my time. I mean on the business of its crazy.
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna be honest with you. Better be listen.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. You should do back. Doubt first came out,
Speaker 1: I did not like I want. I mean, I could
Speaker 1: say this man, when reasonable first first came out, I
Speaker 1: wasn't crazy about it. I wasn't. But now I looked
Speaker 1: back at the ship he was saying, they lived all
Speaker 1: of that ship out. I got a whole new respect
Speaker 1: for it. At the time, I was always tell them all,
Speaker 1: I tell this people. I like I was broke, so
Speaker 1: like Morelan ming wit to him. I felt like he
Speaker 1: was frosting on me. I because if if you can
Speaker 1: say you got money and say you broke, switch your lanes,
Speaker 1: switch your lanes, and she's like that, you're talking to
Speaker 1: me right right right, yeah, you're looking looking at your ship.
Speaker 1: He's like you know what I mean. Like he always
Speaker 1: made me feel like that, like to a certain step,
Speaker 1: like I always say the story, Um, when Niggas and
Speaker 1: Paris came out and we was going to the club
Speaker 1: and I went with one of my friends. One of
Speaker 1: my friends asked me the ball money and I gave
Speaker 1: him some brad and were going the club and my
Speaker 1: friends in there to Nigga like me, when you please
Speaker 1: with mom. I'm sorry that wasn't out, but yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So moving on, at one point, I felt
Speaker 1: like you thought you were black balls. Oh yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: I definitely was. Do you think that's that really exists
Speaker 1: in this industry? Black ball? Yes, absolutely, blan that to
Speaker 1: the people for a new artist who's going basically, it's
Speaker 1: another word for hate. You know what I'm saying, Niggas
Speaker 1: hate on you, or if if they're intimidated by you,
Speaker 1: they'll find a way to prevent you from reaching your
Speaker 1: potential in this game. And it really exists, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Executives, um d j's like niggas, niggas
Speaker 1: will black ball you and will hate on you. I
Speaker 1: definitely feel victims to that early in my think because
Speaker 1: because I think at one point you was alluded until
Speaker 1: you thought that Rocket Feller was Like, it wasn't me
Speaker 1: that said that. A lot of people always said that,
Speaker 1: Like it always haunted me. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like I get I probably get
Speaker 1: a message like that once a year, like yo, you
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, now you're real talk and I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but me personally, you know, I mean, I never experienced it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, but I heard it a
Speaker 1: lot because connection, I don't know what it was for,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean all I could do is assume,
Speaker 1: because you know what they say about assuming. I never
Speaker 1: had no problem with no issues with nobody, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but chancing nor re question. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: heard that a lot throughout my career. And like, what
Speaker 1: were signs that that that you felt that? Like you
Speaker 1: ever trying to get records added to the radio and
Speaker 1: how would you feel? Well, basically when I met slave,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Luckily, I was fortunate enough
Speaker 1: that I created a real serious buzz quick and you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people was working with me. I
Speaker 1: was toring. Yeah, actually it was a rough ride, man,
Speaker 1: look at it like put like this, I met Slay four,
Speaker 1: I can get a deal to like oh seven, that's
Speaker 1: how That's how hard niggas was blocking me. But I
Speaker 1: was toring, And you know what I mean, I was
Speaker 1: so consistent that I still was able to shine. But
Speaker 1: every time I got a good record. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: had like twenty something mixtapes. But every time I got
Speaker 1: a good record, you know what I mean, they went
Speaker 1: they went't funk with it. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: they wouldn't play and pay. Very interesting that you bring
Speaker 1: it up because I did interview on a breakfast club
Speaker 1: the other day and Envy actually shout out the Envy
Speaker 1: I respect him to be honest, he actually admitted it.
Speaker 1: Just put a footag job. You don't take my head,
Speaker 1: he said. Yo. When Pat first came out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I didn't play his record because I
Speaker 1: had a problem with Slag. He's sating on camera, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I already knew that. Oh,
Speaker 1: so he wasn't the only one. He was the only one.
Speaker 1: That feels like there was a lot of DJ's like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That DJ hating on each
Speaker 1: other wasn't organized like they all stick together, you communicated.
Speaker 1: They got DJ teams like No, I know that that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. So you wonder over this ship because
Speaker 1: when I met Slave and I thought it was all good. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking everything in the industry, I see
Speaker 1: it's real. So I'm like, Okay, I funk with Slave,
Speaker 1: he worked at the radio. I'm good. So when I
Speaker 1: started taking my ussic, the nigga and niggas was acting funny.
Speaker 1: I go back to Slay. I'm like, you say, what's
Speaker 1: up with these niggas? Like all honesty, I need looking
Speaker 1: for outside. Look looking at this body like you already
Speaker 1: got slate. What you need me for? Not really though,
Speaker 1: because you know once a week, twelve o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: I need to be on day to have a career.
Speaker 1: You need. So I'm trying to build relationships and niggas
Speaker 1: is acting funny. So I'm like, you're Slay, what's up
Speaker 1: makes me? I'm like, no, we need them so eventually.
Speaker 1: Now me, I'm from the street, you know. Unfortunately I
Speaker 1: was young and ignorant man, which I shouldn't never did.
Speaker 1: We started putting hands on and I sucked up. I
Speaker 1: made it worse. I made it a bassiship Asian works.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm saying so because to tell you the truth, right,
Speaker 1: And like I never I never thought he was black Ball.
Speaker 1: I never did. I thought maybe, you know, I was
Speaker 1: probably making the wrong moves, but I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was black Ball. But for people who says that, right,
Speaker 1: Like I watched an interview the other day of Ali Vegas. Right,
Speaker 1: Ali Vegas. He didn't say it, but he was alluding
Speaker 1: to like these people didn't want him to be as
Speaker 1: big as Nas, and I was. I wanted to say, damn,
Speaker 1: you have to think like that because because I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest with you, I've never been as much times.
Speaker 1: If I've always been around Nos, been around Jay, been
Speaker 1: around Puff, I've never heard them even alluded to even
Speaker 1: hating on another brother, like I swear to God, like
Speaker 1: I know, it's like far fresh to see, but like
Speaker 1: as I like, and I'd be always wondering like that.
Speaker 1: I asked Nas if he was black ballter. He said
Speaker 1: he was black balled. So well, let me say this, man,
Speaker 1: when I met jay Z showed me a lot of
Speaker 1: love and respect, and I showed him that respect back.
Speaker 1: You know, say, because he's a legend, he's an icon,
Speaker 1: he's everything. You know what I I mean what he saying
Speaker 1: is nobody could take away from what he did, especially
Speaker 1: being from Brooklyn, you know, I mean you got to
Speaker 1: salute him. Same with nots like not trying to sign
Speaker 1: me at one point, I mean, not just reached out
Speaker 1: to me. We met up in Lower Manhattan, meet him
Speaker 1: and my homie Old. We satting there, we ate pizza
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, yeah, just the three of us,
Speaker 1: I think, And he was like, yeah, I'm going over
Speaker 1: there with Jay soon. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: that Jam I want to bring you over there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I see big Bill bolls for
Speaker 1: you all of love. And he said sending agreement. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean it was not I mean I grew up
Speaker 1: listening to him and he sent the contract over you
Speaker 1: know what I meaning? And Slave and slaves say it
Speaker 1: was like, man, man, think of man like this ain't
Speaker 1: a good one packed and slave is my big brother.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, by the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: pick up the slave man, get well soon. I hope
Speaker 1: we're doing a better hit. Definitely definitely man so um
Speaker 1: you know that's that to make it just the credit.
Speaker 1: Just just don't know what you said about those two. Man,
Speaker 1: I've never seen no hate from none of them, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never because like, in order fun and to be
Speaker 1: black ball, right them, to be a part of a
Speaker 1: black ball system, you gotta have some type of hater
Speaker 1: in you. You understand what I'm saying. Like there's been
Speaker 1: times I've brung things to them and they'd be like
Speaker 1: and lets these dudes live like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll say off camera because you know I'm
Speaker 1: getting a little deep. But I've always heard them like
Speaker 1: let it go, Like I never hear it. See one
Speaker 1: of them be like, hell, you know what, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Like I see car, you ain't do that ship I've seen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's a different names, different thing. If he
Speaker 1: wanted to set you down, he goes, he's gonna say
Speaker 1: it too, like he gonna he gonna weird on his sleeve.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what it is with with
Speaker 1: with that situation, I don't even like to speak about
Speaker 1: it because I'm in a good spaceman. It didn't work.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know what I worked do but
Speaker 1: happened though, Like with me, That's why I don't like
Speaker 1: to speak about it because a lot of niggas claiming
Speaker 1: and it's not my situation. The ship is really like
Speaker 1: the nigga And he just said it on the on
Speaker 1: the Reference Club the other day, basically you know what
Speaker 1: I mean on the camera, like I have Gilly, and
Speaker 1: Gilly always say that he thought that he did he did.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. He always and I always be
Speaker 1: like but I think I don't even think that thought about.
Speaker 1: I think I'm cool. But he always says that back,
Speaker 1: and he said he said he loves podcasting because no
Speaker 1: one can't block him in podcast. So and so what
Speaker 1: he's trying to say is, man, I got blocked and wrapped.
Speaker 1: So you know, I always pull it out of him
Speaker 1: on camera. Off camera, I be like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: He always like yeah, man, Like I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: The more I get got to meet you, Jake, I
Speaker 1: don't think he was he would make a call to
Speaker 1: block any black man from getting money. I swear to
Speaker 1: guard like I swear to guard makes a noise for
Speaker 1: j man, why not when your class? I think you
Speaker 1: man Brooklyn, I got a little yeah, so definitely. So
Speaker 1: now I think that I didn't think I would see
Speaker 1: you on and I didn't want to get to the
Speaker 1: EPs twelve in a month, right, but I didn't expect
Speaker 1: to see you on, and you influenced me to do
Speaker 1: O Love and hip Hop like you was the first
Speaker 1: person I saw on Love and hip hop keep their
Speaker 1: character and have your character clean like you was never
Speaker 1: on no fucking re ship. You ain't throw no drinks,
Speaker 1: you ain't doing no no dumb ship. It was always
Speaker 1: a part of it, But what makes you even want
Speaker 1: to join that? I didn't want to do it, man,
Speaker 1: for those reasons. I don't want to do that ship. Man.
Speaker 1: When my wife was locked up, they reached out and
Speaker 1: they wanted to document, you know, I mean me going
Speaker 1: to visit her and supporting and all that, and me
Speaker 1: and her spoke and he was like, nine, that's not
Speaker 1: something we want to be a part of because they'd
Speaker 1: be throwing drinks and ship. Yeah, somebody do that ship
Speaker 1: to us. You know what I'm saying, It ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be good. But when we came when she came home,
Speaker 1: we spoke about it again. They came to another offer,
Speaker 1: and she was like, it might be good because you
Speaker 1: got a bad livitation and I got a better. Maybe
Speaker 1: we can show people that we all. He like, we
Speaker 1: got a family, you know what I'm saying. That was
Speaker 1: her decision. Yeah, she did, just like that. She's like,
Speaker 1: because you know what if you did, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I forced Capone to do that season. He was Campone
Speaker 1: was supposed to be on that season, but they couldn't
Speaker 1: tell us that y'all was doing it. Hadn't we knew
Speaker 1: that with the I'll just assigned on the media. But
Speaker 1: I back upon to do it at Compone's told everybody,
Speaker 1: how are you gonna tell me to do love and
Speaker 1: hip hop? And he ain't gonna do it. But when
Speaker 1: I saw it was the integrity, like you gotta stayed
Speaker 1: the same, and not only that, you guys major image
Speaker 1: even better, like I wanted to be a better man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. When I did it, though, I
Speaker 1: was expecting to get to get killed. Man, they're gonna
Speaker 1: kill me when they see this ship. Man, I'm on
Speaker 1: one knee. I'm proposing, you know what I'm saying and
Speaker 1: just showing. Yeah, but you know how ignormant motherfucker's is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that. It was crazy though
Speaker 1: when I when the when the ship, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was bracing myself for impact and I ain't nothing
Speaker 1: beloved I came. Man, I think people was tired of
Speaker 1: seeing our people. I'm saying to picked it like that
Speaker 1: on the on the screen. I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get the number love from that ship.
Speaker 1: You're still doing? Did you live in Atlanta? No? No,
Speaker 1: I'm still living. Are you doing Atlanta edition? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing that. What happened was when
Speaker 1: the COVID head, they tried to get us to do
Speaker 1: the one in the Bubble, but then you had to
Speaker 1: you couldn't bring the baby. And my daughter was only
Speaker 1: like probably one years old of the time, and we
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna separate from my child like that. So we
Speaker 1: fell back. But we're still doing. We actually got a
Speaker 1: new one coming out real soon, I think like next week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's UM African Genealogy or something to that. That That we
Speaker 1: went out there and they took out DNA and they're
Speaker 1: telling us where we're from in Africa. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's one. Did you travel over No? No, no,
Speaker 1: they took it like probably a year ago. So they
Speaker 1: took at DNA and then we shot at UM. Atlanta
Speaker 1: could be dope if you went to wherever they found
Speaker 1: your genealogy. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going, man, I
Speaker 1: can't wait. I've never been in Africa, so I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go. I went. I went to South Africa
Speaker 1: recently and shout a film out there. Yeah it's dope. No,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go. Always just scare me about Africa,
Speaker 1: like two shots and yeah, yeah, you gotta take a
Speaker 1: bunch of shots. It depends where you're going to take
Speaker 1: a shot. The vaccine. Back then, like like I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is a white man thing or something,
Speaker 1: but they would always be like, you can't drink they
Speaker 1: water and like, yeah, but negles be drinking the mohait
Speaker 1: those with the ice, and the ice is the water.
Speaker 1: And then fuck you up, all right, that's why you
Speaker 1: go straight. That's why you go straight, drinking straight drinks.
Speaker 1: So pat, we do love the hip hop and dude,
Speaker 1: is the music still there? The love the love of
Speaker 1: music still there because because like I said, you guys
Speaker 1: not only had a strong image, it actually made you
Speaker 1: a star. Actually did with hip hop. Hip hop was
Speaker 1: meant to do with you. You got through a whole
Speaker 1: another alley alleyway. Yeah, man, that's what happens, man, when
Speaker 1: they hating you, That's what happened man, You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, gold finds another way for you to shine. Um.
Speaker 1: At that time, I made more money off for television
Speaker 1: that I ever made a hip hop you know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: shot them on the Scott Man, we love you. When
Speaker 1: he camera, I love you. You can tell them checks
Speaker 1: as good. I'm serious to man man, Oh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm over there. I made a lot of money, man,
Speaker 1: I got it. I always say it maybe a chance
Speaker 1: I get Man, I made a lot of money on television. So, um,
Speaker 1: that's what happens, man, you know what I mean that.
Speaker 1: That wasn't my plan. It just happened like that. And
Speaker 1: doing it you're aware, which is yeah, yeah, we were
Speaker 1: gonna make a fool out out of ourselves, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and full into the fall, into the dumbnest.
Speaker 1: We actually let them know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So they kept it cleaning, ain't play, no tricks and
Speaker 1: nothing on Like the j the other day, he said, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I think it's over for me and my wife, and
Speaker 1: I'm going really he goes, yeah, so I'm not arguing
Speaker 1: with her to the cameras to cut on. I said
Speaker 1: what he said this reality show and said he's saving
Speaker 1: his arguments for the camera. I can't do that. I
Speaker 1: was like, you too, will get too much invested into
Speaker 1: this ship. Yeah yeah, see that's what I wasn't gonna do.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna go up there and you know, make
Speaker 1: a food out myself. It looked like you and really
Speaker 1: never argue. It looked like y'all never have problems. I
Speaker 1: mean we're human, man, everybody. Everybody go to the to
Speaker 1: the ship. But it's not about the argument, man, It's
Speaker 1: about and then when you're wrong, because you're not always right,
Speaker 1: I mean you or your or your partner. So you know,
Speaker 1: when she was locked up, I couldn't touch her. So
Speaker 1: all we had was communication. Like I visited, they would say,
Speaker 1: put your hands on the table. She like that. So
Speaker 1: we spoke a lot, and throughout that communication we learned
Speaker 1: even if it's a disagreement, if she's speaking, I gotta
Speaker 1: be quiet, and then when I'm speaking, she got to
Speaker 1: be And when you do that, you really see what
Speaker 1: you was wrong, because you'd be like, oh, I made
Speaker 1: you feel like that, and I don't be your attentions
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like they right now? Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's communication. Man, We we disagree, but it
Speaker 1: don't really escalate to the point of right negativity. And
Speaker 1: you're both like alphas, they're both like so that's the
Speaker 1: compromises of sitting back and yeah, you gotta you gotta listen, man,
Speaker 1: when she talking, you gotta be quiet and you take
Speaker 1: your turn. Now, I mean that should work out like
Speaker 1: that all the time. Do you counsel and like that?
Speaker 1: Or no? We never did it. We considered it though, Okay,
Speaker 1: one time and we considered it, but it never happened yet.
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever done it? I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: it right you think about it. I'm thinking about it
Speaker 1: right now. We did it on that bootcamp thing. Uh
Speaker 1: well bootcamp was no marriage bootcampa. You didn't know counsel
Speaker 1: that was counseling. Yeah, I enjoyed it. But what made
Speaker 1: you what? Um? What made you want to do it?
Speaker 1: But marriage bootcamp? No? No, I'm not that the counseling
Speaker 1: like I wanted you to do it now because I'll
Speaker 1: be realized that I'm just I'm still human too, like
Speaker 1: I still got you know, ship, and I and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not nothing to talk talk about and I need you.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't talk about it, you know what I'm saying. So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been thinking about and I like how
Speaker 1: Charlotte Mayne, you know what I mean, Like he speaks
Speaker 1: about count like yeah, like to me, So I just
Speaker 1: want to be a better person. Now, that's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 1: That's dope. So like I said, like, like, what what
Speaker 1: what made you like this? All right? I was personally
Speaker 1: seeing you, you know, when realmy was was away and
Speaker 1: I was seeing you in the club being respectful old
Speaker 1: woman around holding it down like a man. And the
Speaker 1: Instagram wasn't popular back then, so you could have been
Speaker 1: pop and bottle Stone. What made you? What made you
Speaker 1: say like so solid like that? Well, when you get married, man,
Speaker 1: you take vows, right, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: gotta listen to those wedding vows when you when you
Speaker 1: when you do that, because you signing up for that
Speaker 1: and you you're taking those valves before God. So I
Speaker 1: take that serious. I'm not gonna stay in here and say,
Speaker 1: you know, to love to end up a text sicking
Speaker 1: for sicking for health, Richard for pol to depth do
Speaker 1: his part and didn't go do the opposite, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I take that very serious and
Speaker 1: I try to live up to it. What so you
Speaker 1: the whole time we don't have to answer this the
Speaker 1: whole time you have sex at all? I had sex
Speaker 1: with my wife. We had contusions. Okay, it was really
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Okay, when you got married, because you
Speaker 1: got married, and you know, we got married. Um, when
Speaker 1: she blew trail, we was getting married because we didn't
Speaker 1: think she was gonna blow. I didn't think she was
Speaker 1: gonna It was a bullshit case. And you know when
Speaker 1: we she blew trail, we lost our money. We had
Speaker 1: the one and set up on the boat and all
Speaker 1: that we lost that, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we want him getting married while she was locked up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he lost the whole ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we want him getting married while she was when
Speaker 1: she was locked up. But even though like in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you know the right and sounding we we didn't have
Speaker 1: conjigble business, we still was making it happen. And still
Speaker 1: find you got married in jail. That might be the
Speaker 1: we got married. We got married over the phone at first,
Speaker 1: because they canceled the wedding. Remember when she blew, they
Speaker 1: remanded her. They let her go home. Clean up trip
Speaker 1: about them right here right there, boom. So we couldn't
Speaker 1: do nothing. So we we we are. It's time to
Speaker 1: paperwork in the court room. And then that night we
Speaker 1: did the three with the pastor and he married us
Speaker 1: over the phone. That's why she came home. We had
Speaker 1: the big wedding right snuff the papers in there sounding ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, but our show is
Speaker 1: about giving people they loved while they alive. They flowers.
Speaker 1: We didn't invent that slogan, but we made it famous,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And we got everybody biting
Speaker 1: our ship. Now, continue to do our ships. We wanted
Speaker 1: to purchase to get you your flowers. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. What ye man,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you love. Okay, that's a big deal,
Speaker 1: massive big deal. I appreciate that, Yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Now this is where the show gets a little crazy.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a shot glass you got, you got
Speaker 1: your Brooklyn and drink over. You gotta represent makes some fart.
Speaker 1: So this is where the game what's up? What's your
Speaker 1: brisac brist back? This is where the game get tricky.
Speaker 1: It's called quick time and slide. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: two choice about this, okay, yeah, okay, give you two choices.
Speaker 1: You can you can say one or the other and
Speaker 1: you're good, or if you say both, or if you
Speaker 1: you pass and say you don't want then you have
Speaker 1: to take a drink. But all right, pretty much, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna you're gonna slide through this and we
Speaker 1: drink with you. We drink it with you, so you
Speaker 1: ain't you ain't by yourself. Don't worry. Okay, that's cooling. Okay,
Speaker 1: big big punt. You gotta drink immediately, drink. That's a
Speaker 1: good want to drink too, that's good. Hold my guys,
Speaker 1: he's whiskey. That's the tough one. Ain't ain't gonna see yo, bleak.
Speaker 1: Hold on, that's the tough yo, bleak. I'm here interviewing
Speaker 1: pack pools. That's so far. We just walked in and
Speaker 1: that that's when you that's three Brooklyn niggas. Yeah, Brooklyn niggas.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Cool? Yeah? He said, what's up? Black?
Speaker 1: What up? Bro's back right there. I'm gonna hit you
Speaker 1: as soon as I finish this. Soon as I finish this,
Speaker 1: all right? Cool? Cool niggas mad ghetto answering the phone,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Hold on, I gotta take
Speaker 1: the drink as he drinks, right shot at top. It's
Speaker 1: a little alright, my bad man, that's not that's hard
Speaker 1: rap or carerest one. Oh hold yeah, ain't gonna old
Speaker 1: hiplop thiggers can't answer that, that's true. Hell no, it's
Speaker 1: worse rock him. Oh big daddy can I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: you kill us over here. You're killing me right now yourself.
Speaker 1: You may this list by yourself. Yeah, they try to
Speaker 1: kill the chapin niggers off. Oh this mom, this one,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Next one I might have to answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DMX Tupac, damn, that's all I'm gonna ask. I love
Speaker 1: PC though, and he was on Tupac album. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that later. I love them both, Eggstone, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go our face ice Cus call and face on ice Cu.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna face m hmm, fat your Rick Ross Okay, look,
Speaker 1: I love good Thomas line. Uh, put your tear of fat.
Speaker 1: I gotta go in Brooklyn. Okay, the locks are markt
Speaker 1: m hm, gonna be we hit your that's what did do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what this game is meant to be. So so
Speaker 1: I even at the rest outcast a U g K,
Speaker 1: I'm going U g K m M. I don't tell
Speaker 1: you the outcast a lay of Miami, Miami. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: cally okay, do say oh Hennessey Hennessy okay, sorry man?
Speaker 1: Or funk flax case late. That's my brother, Allmatic or
Speaker 1: ready to die, I gotta go, ready to die Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: You can't go against Brooklyn. You can't do it. I disagree,
Speaker 1: but I respect. I love Thematic, but man, you're kidding me.
Speaker 1: The Chronicle of Ours on me? Oh odds on me? Man? Okay,
Speaker 1: podcasts or radio? Man, I'm saying podcasting got to mix?
Speaker 1: Looks okay, rough riders a rocket feller? Right, that was simple? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What made you? What made you ask me about the
Speaker 1: writer color thing? Though? Because I'm doing my due diligence.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that you heard that too, though, heating the
Speaker 1: murder anchor cool man, those are my guys. I'm in
Speaker 1: the middle, Okay, No, no, no, little Kimmy foxing questions
Speaker 1: no more. Oh yeah, take it out? Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: They both killed me for the same reason. We took
Speaker 1: that up. Drake or Puff Daddy Puffy Yeah, dr Drake. Um,
Speaker 1: I gotta keep it New York. Yeah, I respect that
Speaker 1: you want to revolte to right, now in case y'all
Speaker 1: don't got this channel, make sure you're down Swiss piats
Speaker 1: of tempering opening the production on my project? Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: drugs great, hook me up? Oh my guys, cheers ye?
Speaker 1: Or for roll I'll go with Kanye. I'm going for
Speaker 1: roll Man Premre Pete Rock. Oh hell no, those my guy.
Speaker 1: You gotta finish your shot. You gotta make Brooklyn proud. Baby.
Speaker 1: I guess so man at B Street across grooves, Um,
Speaker 1: that's hard and eat your eggs? Why bring um? I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna crush Crove Man that block. This is
Speaker 1: this how he ended with all the quick time slot
Speaker 1: And I'm always interested to see how people answer this,
Speaker 1: because to me, sometimes this crush it is a complicated
Speaker 1: question and sometimes just it seems like there's no wrong
Speaker 1: and it's no wrong. Loyalty or respect, loyalty m H.
Speaker 1: And I don't need to ask y because man, loyalty
Speaker 1: will enable you to show respect to your loved ones
Speaker 1: even when they're not around, even if they deceased, or
Speaker 1: even if they you know, I mean, even if they
Speaker 1: assent of the situation, you still you're still show that respect.
Speaker 1: So loyal to you really get both I agree. See,
Speaker 1: it's either and it's not wrong. Was very complicated, as
Speaker 1: I tell you, a new fact Joe maybe almost twenty
Speaker 1: years new ups downs, you know, tax problems, no tax problems,
Speaker 1: rich rich rich rich, rich rich, whatever, whatever whatever. The
Speaker 1: time I've seen fact Joe the most miserable. Like it's
Speaker 1: when he was beefing with Remy because I know she's
Speaker 1: her own boss. But where did that put you at
Speaker 1: that state of mind when they when they was beefing,
Speaker 1: because I just I just remember him, you know, he
Speaker 1: went through the Cuban ship, he went through the other ship.
Speaker 1: But it was the time that Remy was was going
Speaker 1: that Joe, because oft at the same time fifty was
Speaker 1: going that job. So where was you at in your
Speaker 1: mind state when when this happened? Um, at that time,
Speaker 1: I really didn't I really didn't know Joe what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I really had no involvement in that, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, you know me, it was something that
Speaker 1: was going on. I mean, I can't say and say
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on me. I've been
Speaker 1: witness to it, but I had no involvement and I
Speaker 1: had no opinion, and I just was like Damn, this
Speaker 1: is fucked up. I mean, Joe, Joe is a legend.
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up listening to Joe anyway. So
Speaker 1: to answer your question that I had, I had no involvement.
Speaker 1: I never had met him at the time. So there's
Speaker 1: no discussions of like, you know, um, because I think
Speaker 1: she did this this record, right, I don't, um did
Speaker 1: she do this recor Nah? She might have set a couple,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it was just like a pen
Speaker 1: street going at each other. Now, she probably set a
Speaker 1: couple of lines or something like that. So it happens
Speaker 1: to you, and you and Joe's brothers now, so that.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's the past. It's a past. That's
Speaker 1: which which loves the past is what makes the future
Speaker 1: so beautiful. You know what I'm saying. You can't appreciate
Speaker 1: the son unless the rain. Well I like the rain
Speaker 1: when I like the sign. So boom they have this fallout,
Speaker 1: it's public. Did you have anything to do with fixing it? Absolutely? Okay,
Speaker 1: I had a lot to do with fixing it. Because
Speaker 1: let's just be clear. After Ribby came home, we all
Speaker 1: want to remy on the record, right, I remember that
Speaker 1: that was the that was the thing. Well, everyone knew
Speaker 1: we had to deal with Pat Poole's No one had
Speaker 1: a line on Remy. No there was it was no management,
Speaker 1: there was no we, No one knew nothing in the
Speaker 1: whole industry. So this was on you. You're you're you're
Speaker 1: almost for lack of a better turn from my man
Speaker 1: who just walked in. You were almost like Safari, like Nikki,
Speaker 1: like you understanding, well, well when me it happened by
Speaker 1: default what I'm saying. What I'm saying, like, at one
Speaker 1: point in the industry, and to get to Nikki you
Speaker 1: had to go to s B And at one point
Speaker 1: when when Remy came home, there's the same thing with
Speaker 1: two the only people who knew how to get that Rimmy,
Speaker 1: we had to go through you. So I would say
Speaker 1: that to say, was that how because Joe Muston had
Speaker 1: to reach out to you. No, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: Basic basically, basically the responsibility and you know, of somewhat
Speaker 1: managing her career, I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say. I
Speaker 1: would say this basically when she caught the case and
Speaker 1: blew trial. You know, when you're going the kitchen and
Speaker 1: you turn the lights in the hood and all the
Speaker 1: roaches scatter. That's what happened. Everybody scattered, the whole team.
Speaker 1: Everybody went in a different when she Yeah, when she
Speaker 1: caught the case, because when you catch a case, you're
Speaker 1: in a bad light. So nobody want to be around you.
Speaker 1: Nobody want to sun what you really you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So everybody scattered. But when everybody in the
Speaker 1: process that everybody scattering, the turning their back on it
Speaker 1: was a lot of different things that needed to be handled,
Speaker 1: and she was behind the g wall, so she couldn't
Speaker 1: do nothing. So I was just was doing what I
Speaker 1: could do to help out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because she was a good person. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: told he, I say, Yo, if you blow trail, we're
Speaker 1: still gonna get married. You know what I'm saying. She was.
Speaker 1: She got mad at me when I said that, Like
Speaker 1: what you're getting mad at me? She's at nine, because
Speaker 1: you know, why would you say that? I said, Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just let you know I'm gonna be there for you. Um,
Speaker 1: So she blew trail. Everybody scared, everybody in a different direction.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, I still gotta help her. Out,
Speaker 1: so I just by default I kind of became her
Speaker 1: manager in the beginning of the bid, so when she
Speaker 1: started coming home, people were just reaching out to me
Speaker 1: to get it done. So that's why I kind of
Speaker 1: ended up in that position. And with Joe Na, she
Speaker 1: actually came to me. You know what I'm saying. She
Speaker 1: came to me. And this was something she never did
Speaker 1: because Rim is not really apologetic. She ain't that tite.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying she came to me on one of
Speaker 1: the visits and ship she was like, Yo, babe, what
Speaker 1: you're thinking. You know what I'm saying. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about passing it up with Joe. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to me, I don't gotta ounce that. Hey,
Speaker 1: then my blood, I said, hell, yeah, you need to
Speaker 1: do that, I mean, and I promoted and I pushed
Speaker 1: her to do it, and she did it because at
Speaker 1: one point, like Joe was so mad at and the
Speaker 1: beef even trickled out that you weren't Joe having a fight, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But Joe, Joe was my daughter's godfather. Man. I love
Speaker 1: him so much, to be honest with you, and one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world today. Man, so
Speaker 1: I don't talk about that, man, just be honest. I love.
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm even speaking about that or even
Speaker 1: talking about it is because people are young kid as
Speaker 1: a young kid right now watching this interview, that can
Speaker 1: that can say, you know what, I had smoke would
Speaker 1: because you had honorable smoke. You ain't had no you
Speaker 1: had no dumb smoke. Yea honorable smoke. You ual standing
Speaker 1: about your wife, so you by default it's still it's
Speaker 1: still rapped in this situation. So I'm just saying this
Speaker 1: for anybody who could watch it. It ain't about what happened.
Speaker 1: It's about the end result. And the end result is
Speaker 1: he is when I see y'all together with the like yo,
Speaker 1: this is yo yo, bro. Word the word is ban.
Speaker 1: Anybody who knows me to tell you have never been
Speaker 1: a dick ride or Joe is my god. Like that's
Speaker 1: my brother, like that, like like I fuss with him
Speaker 1: on another level, bro. Like the love that he showed
Speaker 1: me and my family and we showed it back. It
Speaker 1: is nothing fake about it, man. He's very much authentic.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Even throughout me putting out
Speaker 1: all these projects this year, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: when I when I got you guys, but I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say that. The reason why I brought that
Speaker 1: up was just say that, you know, like when she
Speaker 1: got a little rough, I can hit Joe and he
Speaker 1: would be the Phil Jackson. You dude, just pap through
Speaker 1: that and know what I'm saying. No hating ship nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe is one of the only people I
Speaker 1: know that I love to see others win. That ship
Speaker 1: is red man. So are you writing a wrap right now?
Speaker 1: Come you put on twelve. That's very interesting that you
Speaker 1: said that, because word is bant. That's how I create, bro,
Speaker 1: Like you would say some ship, some fly shit and
Speaker 1: I already yeah, I'll flip it and I hold it
Speaker 1: for later. You know what I'm saying. So, so you
Speaker 1: don't need to be the voice memo. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you now that I'm a little older, Yeah, when
Speaker 1: I was younger then in my brain, like when Big
Speaker 1: said that, everybody starts saying all right, But for me,
Speaker 1: that ship was my reality. Like I didn't need to
Speaker 1: write because I loved it so much. It wasn't my choice.
Speaker 1: Stop the lyrical bar ship that you're doing writing it down? Nah,
Speaker 1: I didn't need to bro I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why on the right stop you
Speaker 1: can you write that down? Let me explain. I idolized
Speaker 1: niggas who could write. I look up to y'all because
Speaker 1: if I sit here with a pendent paper, I might
Speaker 1: rap about the fucking pen of paper, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I create p Yeah, I might rap
Speaker 1: about that ship. You might hear me rapping about the
Speaker 1: paper I create throughout the course of my day, throughout
Speaker 1: my experiences. I take that ship in and I regurgitated
Speaker 1: through the rat but holding that memory as I think
Speaker 1: where he's really when you love it so much, you're
Speaker 1: going to remember it. I love this ship, so you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you need this smoke some weed you so
Speaker 1: you just you keep these memories, just like like if
Speaker 1: a bar strike you right now, because I listen, I
Speaker 1: who the funds did? I had dinner with Yane. Every
Speaker 1: time someone said something that's just going like this, he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm looking like the time about because people
Speaker 1: say the doping ship, but they don't know it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So me as an artist, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this just said such as such. I'm using that later.
Speaker 1: You don't even know what he just said. He just
Speaker 1: gave me a ball soro some ship for twelve fucking EPs. Yes, man, man,
Speaker 1: I watched you. I want to do my dude Denners
Speaker 1: just on um abro and you said you did it
Speaker 1: through tune Call. This is what new artists. Can you
Speaker 1: explaining to new artists with tune Core? Is because I
Speaker 1: got a tune call account. It's not working out for me.
Speaker 1: I see you talk about tune call. Camera's on here
Speaker 1: talking about tune Core. Can you explain to new artists
Speaker 1: coming up right now that's trying to get out there
Speaker 1: in Memphis, there in Oklahoma, they're in Ohio. They don't
Speaker 1: know how to get to New York. They can't afford
Speaker 1: to get to New York. And one thing, did you
Speaker 1: do a deal directly with the company tune Core? Is
Speaker 1: it like anybody else is doing a tune core with
Speaker 1: that in my institute? Okay, Artists, if you're drowning in
Speaker 1: the in the Hudson River, mrs any river, ocean, whatever,
Speaker 1: tune calls your life raft. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the best way I could describe it. Remember, I
Speaker 1: had at one point five me not a deal, he
Speaker 1: said it earlier. You know what I'm saying. One point
Speaker 1: five my job. Yes, my first deal was one point
Speaker 1: five million. Yes, Um, worst mistake in my life taking
Speaker 1: that deal. But UM, let me say this. Let me
Speaker 1: say this. When I lost my deal, When I lost
Speaker 1: my deal and the world turned thing back on me,
Speaker 1: tune Cored was there. And tune Cored basically, all these
Speaker 1: different distributors that you might sign with, they're going to
Speaker 1: take a percentage of the money you make. Tune Cored
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. They only charge you to upload the music.
Speaker 1: So once you upload the music, the prophet is all yours,
Speaker 1: my friend, and you're on all the digital streaming platforms.
Speaker 1: So when I said I was going to do an
Speaker 1: album every month, I was actually dealing with a distributor.
Speaker 1: And he turned this back on me. He said, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna put him on Blast, not Empire. I deal
Speaker 1: with Empire in the past before too. But tune cord
Speaker 1: is better than all that. I know. I know, man,
Speaker 1: I know, man, this is your therapy. He owe me money,
Speaker 1: he owe me money, So I ain't gonna ain't gonn
Speaker 1: shoot on them. Yeah, I get my money, come back.
Speaker 1: I shoot on what I'm saying helusive. Now this this
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy is very elusive. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wait to catch him and get my money. And then
Speaker 1: I shoot on elusive means I'm trying to catch you.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't get my hands on you know,
Speaker 1: you're grabbing by the shirt and they slip out their
Speaker 1: shirt like he's one of them. Ain't gonna say you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But um so yeah, everybody turned
Speaker 1: it back on me. And when I said I was
Speaker 1: gonna do an album each month, this guy was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're overlapping yourself and it's not going to world. You
Speaker 1: can't put out another album next month. And like right now,
Speaker 1: I got good problems, like I gotta wreckord with Fabulous
Speaker 1: You and Jamain Duprie. But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: got a wreck it with Rick Ross. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I got a record with a Little Way to Change
Speaker 1: Busting Rounds my Wife, produced by Timberland. I got three records.
Speaker 1: I got I got three regulars. That one DJ is
Speaker 1: like your all these ships is high. I don't know
Speaker 1: which want to play, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: but this is what he was kind of saying. He
Speaker 1: was saying, you want, but I'm like, yo, I can't
Speaker 1: follow the industry way of releasing music because the ship
Speaker 1: don't work for me. Like, that's what I want new
Speaker 1: artists to understand. When you look at these artists that's uh,
Speaker 1: mainstream yea, all new artists. This is what I want
Speaker 1: you to understand. When you look at these mainstream artists
Speaker 1: out here and there, you know, they're releasing their music,
Speaker 1: they're promoting their music, they're doing the super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: they're doing all the spectaculars, ship all of these, you know,
Speaker 1: different ways of marketing their music, and you want to
Speaker 1: be like dumb or whatever you inspire to be or whatever,
Speaker 1: you cannot follow them because that doesn't work for you.
Speaker 1: The industry format and the industry way of releasing music,
Speaker 1: it didn't work for me at all. So I said
Speaker 1: to myself, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: create my own format, in my own pattern, in my
Speaker 1: own way of releasing music. I'm gonna drop an album
Speaker 1: every month. And everybody told me, don't do it. This
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work. But guess what, it was the
Speaker 1: best thing I ever did in my life. Explain to
Speaker 1: the artists, because this is this is the way to
Speaker 1: the support. This is for the kid that is dopest
Speaker 1: fun in his mama's house. Right, So why this is
Speaker 1: this is the best thing I ever did, because I
Speaker 1: don't have to wait for no label. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to approve my music when I put it out,
Speaker 1: you know, putting it through tune Core. Also, um, I
Speaker 1: get my money every that's working on that. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm let me tell you something, artists, every single Monday
Speaker 1: of two thousand and twenty one, I had to check
Speaker 1: waiting from me every month from tune Core because I
Speaker 1: put out so much music and it reacted. The people
Speaker 1: embraced it. So when you when you when you're trying
Speaker 1: to put out an album once a year, the big shots,
Speaker 1: the big dogs could do that. You're not a big dog.
Speaker 1: You gotta work way harder than them, and you gotta
Speaker 1: tell a certain extent. You gotta outwork them. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Buster called me and said, your path
Speaker 1: you outworked everybody this year. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But you gotta do that if you want to eat
Speaker 1: and you want to be successful, because let's be honest,
Speaker 1: a year ago from now, they wasn't talking about my
Speaker 1: music like how they're talking about it or even considering
Speaker 1: how they are now. But by the grace of God,
Speaker 1: I was so consistent that they have no choice but
Speaker 1: to acknowledge my my work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. Doing that was the
Speaker 1: best thing I did. Bro. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to describe it. But tune core is the way that
Speaker 1: you can do it at your own discretion. You can say,
Speaker 1: all right, my album is finished, I want to put
Speaker 1: it on the digital platforms. You uploaded the tune call,
Speaker 1: you paid a little ten dollars or whatever. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Everybody that buy your music, all that money come to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I made a lot of money. And
Speaker 1: I imagine putting out so many joints. It's like with
Speaker 1: streaming now compounds like that's that's where it's positive, because streaming,
Speaker 1: it's like you got all this catalog now, right, you
Speaker 1: build up catalog and you actually you get into streaming. Now.
Speaker 1: The streaming, Let's be honest, if you were selling records
Speaker 1: back in the days, they didn't have streaming, and then
Speaker 1: they're streaming. You never sew no records, bro, It's ahole
Speaker 1: different way of releasing me. You never streamed before. So
Speaker 1: for me, when I started doing that, I actually started
Speaker 1: streaming now. I was just never streaming, and so I
Speaker 1: did this ship to pay attention. So it was a
Speaker 1: great thing. It was the best thing. Anybody told me
Speaker 1: don't do. Even my wife, you don't release an album
Speaker 1: marvery month just down the third. She tried to stop me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And she hated me last
Speaker 1: year when I did that ship because I was so focus.
Speaker 1: That's actually true, told me, don't do reggae. Don't do
Speaker 1: it this time. You was joking when you said doing it,
Speaker 1: rather said don't do it. But yeah, and you proved
Speaker 1: them wrong. I didn't. I didn't mean to because I
Speaker 1: love them. Yeah, I put them wrong. Lets but jeez,
Speaker 1: that was That was dope. That that was really thank
Speaker 1: you man. Shout out to all the artists who've seen
Speaker 1: what I was doing man and decided to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. Like I started feeling like I was
Speaker 1: creating my own platform because big dogs wanted to be
Speaker 1: a part of Ship. And when I reached out, it
Speaker 1: was no resistance. I mean shout out the little wing.
Speaker 1: Let's let's stay right there for stout. Um, Wayne, not
Speaker 1: only did the record, yea, the videos come on and
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. That was hard to see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's hard that you know what it is? Man?
Speaker 1: Like this iss outside? Now you sit back right and
Speaker 1: every question you asked me earlier, you see what I said.
Speaker 1: I said, Oh New York, I'm going to New York.
Speaker 1: I'm going in Brooklyn, I represent. But when you come
Speaker 1: up and you look up to these guys and you
Speaker 1: come in the game and you you winning, and they
Speaker 1: don't embrace you, but you got a guy from out
Speaker 1: of town, a whole another region embrace you and show love.
Speaker 1: Not only do the record, do the video, because that's
Speaker 1: that's that's a statement. It's a statement, and it says
Speaker 1: a lot as to why I was city got pushed
Speaker 1: to the back burning in this thing because a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't like to see others win. But just
Speaker 1: a little Wayne Man, solid dude, man, how it happening? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I always knew of your always knew. I always knew
Speaker 1: always because when he was when he's gonna write a sale,
Speaker 1: mcman hit slay up and it was like yo, yo
Speaker 1: Wayne fu pat Man with alphabetical slaughter. It was a
Speaker 1: song I hapen. I broke down the album. Yeah we're
Speaker 1: about to go there. He was like, Yo, Wayne, funk
Speaker 1: with him, heavy man, like you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: this that the third I was like, work, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I try to try to visit him.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I couldn't do it though, I mean,
Speaker 1: but I always knew that he fun with me. You
Speaker 1: couldn't do it because you couldn't get there, or because
Speaker 1: I went to the island. I'm keeping the ball. It
Speaker 1: wasn't right. It was I wasn't on the less. I
Speaker 1: didn't get in. What I'm saying, I believe you believe
Speaker 1: I'm from the sidewalk and they can tell you Wayne
Speaker 1: rock with you. You need to go check that that's real.
Speaker 1: Ship that I went and try to chop it up
Speaker 1: with him. I didn't. That didn't work out. I didn't
Speaker 1: even tell I never got a chance to tell him that.
Speaker 1: Um when I went there, Drake was going in to
Speaker 1: see him. Actually, I've seen Drake in the visiting going
Speaker 1: through or they pushed you back for humble. They ain't
Speaker 1: pushed me back away. They pushed me back. But you
Speaker 1: know what, it didn't. It didn't work out. But you know,
Speaker 1: I always knew he funk with me or just off
Speaker 1: of that. So when I started doing the monthly projects,
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, man, I just want to get artists
Speaker 1: on these projects that I respect, and Wayne is and
Speaker 1: I respect. I reached out to him and worked his bond.
Speaker 1: He hit me right back, Broo. I sent him to joint.
Speaker 1: One night. I'm laying in the bed, my wife sleep,
Speaker 1: the baby's sleep. I'm looking through my email. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this. I turned the ship on. It's little Wayne.
Speaker 1: I jumped out the bed. I started dancing in the crib.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the Wayne. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, this nigga did this ship that quick.
Speaker 1: I'm talking, was quick, bro I was happy. He's solid,
Speaker 1: solid dude. Man. Everything he said he was gonna do,
Speaker 1: he did it. Never faked the jack, never pump faked.
Speaker 1: All right. So I'm an artist, So I know once
Speaker 1: you get diverse, we all for like DJ Collin, Right,
Speaker 1: I'm an artist. I know that's one part of the inquiry, right,
Speaker 1: getting the vote, right, that's the fact. But then the
Speaker 1: lex part is getting it clear and then getting the
Speaker 1: video clear. So what was that process? I told you earlier. Man,
Speaker 1: I built my own model of releasing music. So I'm
Speaker 1: releasing every thirty days. Okay, So once you and you
Speaker 1: need signations from these artists, I mean, eventually you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta do it that, you gotta do the business.
Speaker 1: So I got my guy in on the business side.
Speaker 1: He you know, I just got the Wayne Verse. We
Speaker 1: need to handle it. He's handling it. I'm communicating with
Speaker 1: Mac main what I'm saying. We're putting everything together to
Speaker 1: make sure everything is right. Saying with Ross, But I
Speaker 1: gotta who are fast now? Because this got to come
Speaker 1: out on the thirty feet every month. I really can't
Speaker 1: wait for nobody, you know what I'm saying. So I'm
Speaker 1: working at this is the pace I'm working at. So
Speaker 1: as I'm getting versus the one every month, thirty one
Speaker 1: to last day every month, I'm dropping regardless of home
Speaker 1: or what what did you do in February the last
Speaker 1: day of that month? Back history money. So so because
Speaker 1: this is this is very very important for artists. Most
Speaker 1: artists think because they got money and and and they
Speaker 1: can pay for uh a wait in verse, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but money can't buy you love. Yeah yeah, yeah. But
Speaker 1: what they don't understand is this, these signatures, this is this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta clear it. You gotta get you
Speaker 1: gotta get clearings. You gotta have good graces. And what
Speaker 1: I'm saying because I listen, I'm gonna tell you why
Speaker 1: I looked up with my Wayne record. I had a
Speaker 1: record with Rain and Wayne did the same thing with me.
Speaker 1: Just send it right back to me boom and went
Speaker 1: to the video. Sean Pectos answer the only show the instant.
Speaker 1: What's up man? Oh Ship? What does that we I'm
Speaker 1: live on drink Chance by the way, just just kid,
Speaker 1: what's up? Bro? What's good? My god? Man Ship chopping
Speaker 1: it up everybody, great man, just working man, trying to
Speaker 1: make it happen, no doubt you know it. Bro yea
Speaker 1: whatever niggas is under those stars, boy, y'all look good boy?
Speaker 1: What CC man, Come on, man, you ain't come on
Speaker 1: my show yet. You lost Weyne and changed on niggas.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on man, pull up on us. CC.
Speaker 1: It's just I just watched your documentary again. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, pull up on us, man, come in on me.
Speaker 1: You gotta have some old alright, no problem, alright, my
Speaker 1: brother alright, cool, no problem. Look look my brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Pap. We asked our phone during was very
Speaker 1: into that fight was the topic. We gotta gottaber. So
Speaker 1: what happened was I didn't know that. So I was
Speaker 1: throwing independent music and I wasn't getting no signatures. You
Speaker 1: just put it out. I was just putting it out.
Speaker 1: But with Wayne, they straightened me up. With Wayne. When
Speaker 1: I chopped the rain one, who Who's day? Universal? Everyone?
Speaker 1: They straightened me right up. But it was lucky because
Speaker 1: Birdman had lived in my building at the time. But
Speaker 1: Birdman also checked me. Say hey, played boy, you want
Speaker 1: a favor from me? You don't have them folks called me.
Speaker 1: I charged them folks. So I realized I couldn't have
Speaker 1: anybody called anybody from Rayne Camp other than me. That's
Speaker 1: the secret though, that's the shipper. That's an artist. We're
Speaker 1: blowing up right now. Relationship because niggers like us you
Speaker 1: can have a team. You know that. It goes back
Speaker 1: to what I was saying earlier. What works for these
Speaker 1: niggas don't work for like me, when I reached out
Speaker 1: the artist myself and I get ship done, then I
Speaker 1: passing to the team what I'm saying it. But when
Speaker 1: you got people reaching out, he's gonna he's gonna bang
Speaker 1: them and they're gonna call you and say, you know
Speaker 1: he said this much. I just saw the sticker, like
Speaker 1: I saw the sticker in the gym and he was
Speaker 1: like he stepped to me like because saying burn man.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know he hate at oh Like it
Speaker 1: was me one on one and he was like, play boy,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep getting played boy. Hate
Speaker 1: play man. He's like, I got you playing boy if
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I got to get his nigger too,
Speaker 1: Jesus done. Ready that book wrong, I'm telling you. And
Speaker 1: he's a good nigga. So I haven't seen him in
Speaker 1: a while. But picking you up her man, So but
Speaker 1: now I haven't that with that rain the way that
Speaker 1: you took about now now it's back man, but still there.
Speaker 1: But now because this is a lot of people should
Speaker 1: understand about you and bust the rhyme situation and Wayne
Speaker 1: and Baby situation is once they kind of found out
Speaker 1: the discrepancies both kind of made it right right, like
Speaker 1: after whatever Wayne was beaten with baby and whatever. They
Speaker 1: made it right and they moved on. And I remember
Speaker 1: like you and Buster kind of bumping heads. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was because I was. It
Speaker 1: was just an industry, you know, talk not Me and
Speaker 1: Bus never had a problem busting Slay. They spared a lot.
Speaker 1: They spared a lot, but that but still shopping. Still,
Speaker 1: That's just what it was. It was just sparing with them.
Speaker 1: They love each other. Later on, I'm saying they spared,
Speaker 1: so you were just called in between because that's what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we never had Me and Bus never had a shooting. Man. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean Bus the guy that brought me out on stage. Man,
Speaker 1: and the crowd started screaming, and I was looking around,
Speaker 1: like who here's screaming for? You know, it was me.
Speaker 1: I was used to being a regular nigga at the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, he bust to change my life. Man, that's
Speaker 1: my big brother. So we never had a problem. But
Speaker 1: you know, I mean him and my brother Slay, they
Speaker 1: just spared a lot. That's how they are too strong
Speaker 1: headed niggas. You was at the video shooting, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was that touching the video that changed my life. Man,
Speaker 1: video on the song that I never forget it. Break
Speaker 1: it down, sir. I'm just saying that the record being
Speaker 1: on the record, that record, man, I couldn't go to
Speaker 1: the more no more. I went from then on the
Speaker 1: corner hustling and doing jux this to being a famous
Speaker 1: person off that record. What I mean, I had a
Speaker 1: name for myself. That's what got me on the record.
Speaker 1: But that record changed my life. Man, I can't lie
Speaker 1: to you. And it's crazy because when me and my
Speaker 1: man went to the studious to call me, I fell asleep.
Speaker 1: I was. I was so tired. He said, Yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta get to get on this song right head. I
Speaker 1: put the beat on. I fell asleep in the studio,
Speaker 1: fell asleep right there, the biggest record in my life.
Speaker 1: I fell asleep. They woke me up, and my man
Speaker 1: all right here he could tell you. I woke up.
Speaker 1: I went right in the book. I wrote that that
Speaker 1: verse of my sleep, Yo, man, you gotta stop oh
Speaker 1: in my life, yo. He he never lied. I wrote
Speaker 1: that verse. Thats too perfect. Let's just keep it the
Speaker 1: story verse five in my sleep, bro, Really, I knocked
Speaker 1: out in the studio woke up when writing the booth,
Speaker 1: because that's what all right, this is why your story
Speaker 1: sounds a little crazy. They used to say, that's what
Speaker 1: Big used to do. See what I'm saying. They used
Speaker 1: to say. Big used to go like this, close his
Speaker 1: eyes and then like twenty minutes later he just go
Speaker 1: on the booth. So did you know that I didn't
Speaker 1: hear that one. I did hear that Big thing right, Well,
Speaker 1: he's the first one before j Jar, the first one
Speaker 1: who who said that it became cool once Big said it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and for me, I was like, oh, this is cool.
Speaker 1: This is what I really This described to people like,
Speaker 1: all right, describe to not writing means listen, remember this
Speaker 1: is what you gotta understand. For me, I can't speak
Speaker 1: for Big. For me, I'm such a fiend. It comes
Speaker 1: to the hip hop. I love this ship so much
Speaker 1: that if I because you don't. You only write it
Speaker 1: down to remember it. You created first in your head
Speaker 1: before you write. When you're writing, and you set him
Speaker 1: with the pin the paper, you think of the ship
Speaker 1: and you write it then, so you don't forget. I
Speaker 1: don't need to put it down so I don't forget.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to flee. I'm not going, I used
Speaker 1: to my wife smoked me out. What I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be tiring my lungs. You're You're gonna
Speaker 1: come back home at least Keys and Kanye West smoke. Wow. Look,
Speaker 1: I look up to the guys who right, man, Because
Speaker 1: I can't write it. I can't write if I wanted to,
Speaker 1: I can't write. So wait, wait, but hold up. But
Speaker 1: when you spit it from memory? Is that with flow
Speaker 1: the way you're gonna flow it. I can't let you
Speaker 1: get away with that. Everything, everything you already hate. I
Speaker 1: hate a little bit you said. I can't You didn't
Speaker 1: start not writing down. You have to start right here.
Speaker 1: That's when I realized, if I keep holding this pen
Speaker 1: in this paper, I'm going to wrap about this penning
Speaker 1: this paper. There's been a lot of runs. I realized
Speaker 1: I need to wrap throughout the course of my day
Speaker 1: so I can wrap about different ships through my experience.
Speaker 1: He just mattered, you don't have a notepad throughout the
Speaker 1: course of your day. And nowadays, I kept like I said,
Speaker 1: I kept were worked with for like a week and
Speaker 1: everything that was dope that that Kanye just heard, he
Speaker 1: just kept voice open there See he's smart though he
Speaker 1: taking notes. Man, he's drown in life experience, isn't putting
Speaker 1: his music. He's smart. You do that with your with
Speaker 1: your brain. Yeah, I do that. I make sure I
Speaker 1: like should that happened? And just be so, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, but talent moment, that's unique. Not everybody could
Speaker 1: do that. Well, I'm blessed man, I get the credit.
Speaker 1: I mean anyway, blessed many holy ship now. But you
Speaker 1: know what, you know what it was to putting out
Speaker 1: twelve albums in one year? You know how you got
Speaker 1: niggas that run down? It says EPs? Is it actually
Speaker 1: its albums? Because the album is uh I think seven
Speaker 1: no more seven more? And the eight tracks? Okay, eight tracks?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But let me say this though,
Speaker 1: Google is labor to the EPs though when I Google it, Oh,
Speaker 1: they gotta get this ship right. But his albums. But
Speaker 1: let me let me say this though. You know how
Speaker 1: the niggas run down, and you know remember saying put
Speaker 1: me on bro, why you I'm trying to rap, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do this. You know, we're putting out twelve
Speaker 1: albums in the year. Did for me? They got all
Speaker 1: them niggas out of my face because let me explain it, right,
Speaker 1: So me, I've been in the game for a while.
Speaker 1: He thinks it's fueling, But let me tell you, right,
Speaker 1: I've been in the game for a while. Right, I
Speaker 1: had a million out of deal, right, I told overseas.
Speaker 1: I mean I did records with Nori, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean records with NAS, records with all these great people.
Speaker 1: And I'm really working hard, hard enough to release obs
Speaker 1: seventies of my songs in one year, twelve albums in
Speaker 1: one year. And you and what I turned the number
Speaker 1: when they come to me with the handout? Ship? How
Speaker 1: many your wrap, how many songs you put out? How
Speaker 1: many albums you put out? So I shouldn't be out
Speaker 1: working you. So if I might working you, that mean
Speaker 1: you're not hungry. I don't even want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: They liminated pretty much everybody. Yeah, because you wanted me.
Speaker 1: I'm going hard like I want this. So if you're
Speaker 1: not working as hard as me or more, don't come
Speaker 1: to me for that hand out. I owe you something ship,
Speaker 1: that entitlement ship. I don't want to hear that. But
Speaker 1: we put out how many episodes you put out a year.
Speaker 1: We're in the same league. We're in the same league
Speaker 1: out working over here. But listen back, that ship you
Speaker 1: did is amazing that the just I'm drunk already and
Speaker 1: I went to I went to happy on the shot.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna do that. You went to have you
Speaker 1: on the shop the Japanese whiskey. This is that fly
Speaker 1: shall know what I'm saying. I'm hitting a little southing.
Speaker 1: Do say you do? Oh yeah? Hit it? H yeah, yo,
Speaker 1: m hmm, it's cool. That was not a good thing.
Speaker 1: Papoos vetter bidden. Niggas can't do what you just did.
Speaker 1: Niggas have been out. I can't do what you did.
Speaker 1: That's why we all sat back and was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, that's just something different. And we thought, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest this. I'm part of a couple of
Speaker 1: group chats. People thought you was gonna miss a month, sir,
Speaker 1: you can't remember that runs Yeah, waiting they're waiting my luck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was watching too. Now. I wasn't gonna let up. Bro.
Speaker 1: Even if you under the weather, some somebody passed away,
Speaker 1: you know, something happened. You gotta keep going process. When
Speaker 1: you recording January's album, is they already recorded in December. Um,
Speaker 1: that's what I should have did. That's why I funked
Speaker 1: up at in the beginning, I stopped, Man, you didn't
Speaker 1: make January. I'm gonna tell you how I first, he
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that's too crazy because for a
Speaker 1: couple of years, right, I've been saying, yo, next year,
Speaker 1: I'm dropping the album every month, and the next thing
Speaker 1: I know, it's February. I ain't dropped ship. So this
Speaker 1: month I said, damn, I'm dropping the album a month
Speaker 1: this year. But what I should have did was what
Speaker 1: he said. I should have didn't January and December. I
Speaker 1: didn't do that. That's why each project had to drop
Speaker 1: on the last day each month, because I didn't have ship,
Speaker 1: so I used the month. I used the thirty days
Speaker 1: to create. So when I dropped on January thirty one,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm at the finish nine. I'm exhausted, I'm
Speaker 1: out of breath, I'm sweating, I'm wiping the smell with
Speaker 1: the tower. When I'm like, right, I got some time.
Speaker 1: February the last's the shortest money of the year, The
Speaker 1: last day February, Okay, I gotta do it. Again. Let's
Speaker 1: go March, same ship. I'm creating this ship as I
Speaker 1: go along. I didn't November in one day. Yo. As
Speaker 1: the year progressed, I got better. I got so crazy
Speaker 1: with it because it's like Floyd Mayweather doing punches. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Wait a minute, man, Okay, you
Speaker 1: just start banking albums like we do podcasts. Probably just
Speaker 1: called the album's November. Yeah, January. Each one was typed
Speaker 1: the current month on the last day. That was the
Speaker 1: title the album. Each album was typing after the current month.
Speaker 1: That was part of my my whole concept. Also very cocky, sir.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to come across like that, because
Speaker 1: I was cocky when I was young man, and I
Speaker 1: grew out of that ship, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: always try to stay humble, So I hope I ain't
Speaker 1: coming across cocky. No, no, in a respectful way. Can
Speaker 1: we open another bottle? Way? I feel like it's warranted, right,
Speaker 1: I'm ready because we got to make sure that you
Speaker 1: have no problem the airport and we, like I said,
Speaker 1: our show was about giving people their flowers and appreciate.
Speaker 1: I got my flowers and pat you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. Appreciate this shower. Soon as we
Speaker 1: heard that we were booking you, I went and I listened,
Speaker 1: and I said, damn, bro I said, that might have
Speaker 1: been paps problem, not that he was blackballed. Is that lyrically?
Speaker 1: You actually you said that you actually yeah, you're actually
Speaker 1: in all right, Brooklyn. You actually like I'm saying this
Speaker 1: with all love like you might be in year eight
Speaker 1: with your bass at that. Man, Now, for real, I'm
Speaker 1: saying this like like like pull or something, sir, you
Speaker 1: know what arresting? I dumbed it, I called me mann.
Speaker 1: I dumbed it down to dumbed down. That's how I
Speaker 1: started getting more features. Man. I kind of realized that
Speaker 1: no cocky ship, I said, damn man, nobody wanna do
Speaker 1: songs with me? Man, I said, you know what? And
Speaker 1: and then I was so hip hop, little ship. I
Speaker 1: was so hip hop, and I was so young minded
Speaker 1: and noticed, I said, I was so hip hop. If
Speaker 1: I'm doing a song with you, I'm I'm trying gonna lie,
Speaker 1: I'm trying gonna in. I mean, but as you get older,
Speaker 1: you start to learn how to make music. It's not
Speaker 1: about having the best songs. It's about having the best song.
Speaker 1: So if I do a song with you oplous about
Speaker 1: having the best chemistry, Yes, I would do ship like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, let's go in the studio together,
Speaker 1: or you know I mean, um, I wouldn't send you
Speaker 1: my verse. Now I do it verse real quick, and
Speaker 1: I send you my verse. Here take my verse. Man.
Speaker 1: I want you to I want you to kill me
Speaker 1: on this verse because when you when you put in
Speaker 1: the effort to kill me, that's gonna make it a
Speaker 1: better record. People. You know what I'm saying. So as
Speaker 1: you get older, you learned. And when I started learning
Speaker 1: that and started doing that, I was able to get
Speaker 1: more features. I'm I'm featuring with people I never feat
Speaker 1: you with in my life right now because we started
Speaker 1: with a little Wayne. Now, let's you said you had
Speaker 1: a list. Let's let's le's let's tell the list. You said,
Speaker 1: Little Wayne. Yeah, Little Wayne, listen on these monthly projects.
Speaker 1: I got Little Wayne. I got Fabulous. I got Fabulous.
Speaker 1: I've been living in Brooklyn my whole life. I've never
Speaker 1: had a song with Fabulous. A differentigger. I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: a different nigger though. I got Rick Ross, I got
Speaker 1: two chains, I got busted rounds, I got my wife.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I feel like we should make noise
Speaker 1: for every one of those guests. So let's start all over.
Speaker 1: Let's start over because you Rick Ross, fabulous, rimy mob,
Speaker 1: bust the rom I said, Rick Ross, Right, Anthony Hamilton,
Speaker 1: two chas ty Boy, Swiss Meats Swiss me Timberlin the game.
Speaker 1: I can keep going, no, no, no, no, hold on,
Speaker 1: crook it out, got damn it, I'm saying, jack Man
Speaker 1: loves Professor Rob. I can keep going if y'all want me. Man, No,
Speaker 1: I ain't got damn Ross. I think a smoke this
Speaker 1: so many great people, man, I was able to work
Speaker 1: with this year. Bro on my label Honorable Records Distributed Records,
Speaker 1: and you should start out with that saying that. So
Speaker 1: my bad, Honorable Records is the name of my label.
Speaker 1: It's the new death for all honor before money distributing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is the new CEO of tune Cord right now.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your money. One thing. You know you're
Speaker 1: gonna get your money. So you never worked with a
Speaker 1: one or um uh my man, Ghazi uhi, I never
Speaker 1: worked with the one I worked with Ghazi. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but Gazi, it's kind of hard to
Speaker 1: work with Ghazi really, And I've talked to other people
Speaker 1: and they said the same. I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: bad about it, you know what I'm saying, but it's
Speaker 1: difficult to me as an artist when this is your
Speaker 1: bread and butter and you don't really have no solid
Speaker 1: communication with your record label a distributor. Communication is key,
Speaker 1: and guys, he has it his to be a felling
Speaker 1: to communicate properly. And I know a lot of artists
Speaker 1: who watched this, they like this right on path And
Speaker 1: I'm saying because is a fact, bro Really Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've talked to the other other artists and that's the issue.
Speaker 1: And for me, I couldn't do that. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't do that. I can't. I need to communicate like
Speaker 1: this is how I'm feeding my family. I mean, you can't,
Speaker 1: you know? So that was that? So yeah, because you know, guy,
Speaker 1: see my man, I hoped him out with Fat Joe
Speaker 1: and they made a lot of money to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, money is good. Money is good.
Speaker 1: Also squashed the people Fat Joe and jay Z. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know that. I remember that I
Speaker 1: remember on the record and the remix, he shouts first,
Speaker 1: like hyeah, but I was supposed to get the shout
Speaker 1: out first, like I remember. That was a moment though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: listen to me. I want to say. I just wanna
Speaker 1: say this man, what you've done here, that's please. I
Speaker 1: salute you. Brook at that. Look at this getting money.
Speaker 1: That's my sun over there coming here and think with
Speaker 1: the wild over there. That's right on to Let's up
Speaker 1: when you see what I said when I sat down,
Speaker 1: I sit in Man, this is a real production, like
Speaker 1: doing them TV shows and ship me from VH one.
Speaker 1: I went this real solid production. I know what the
Speaker 1: real production is. Come here and I see your brothers
Speaker 1: setting up. I see everything. I just want to salute y'all.
Speaker 1: I wish I had another one to give your flowers.
Speaker 1: What you're doing this ship. You made a whole transition
Speaker 1: from doing the rap SHP to this ship, and then
Speaker 1: you got anybody following you. So salute everybody doing podcasts now,
Speaker 1: that's just like everybody doing reggae thrown too. Let's be clear,
Speaker 1: It'll be clear. Anybody they realized old ship. You want
Speaker 1: to go to. You want to go to the cocobata too.
Speaker 1: That's nice man, Yeah, yeah, not real ship man a
Speaker 1: path man. That's again man again man, like I think,
Speaker 1: I think, because what do you what do you consider
Speaker 1: is your biggest record that you was on that I
Speaker 1: was on my biggest record. I'm gonna say I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna stop. Remix featuring and two change busting rhymes,
Speaker 1: red me a Little Wayne, goddamn it out right now
Speaker 1: on all digital platforms. Wait, wait, wait, my new record,
Speaker 1: my new single, It's cold. Thought I was gonna stop
Speaker 1: featuring two Chains busting rhymes, Little Wayne Rey produced by
Speaker 1: No He did the original and he's doing a remix.
Speaker 1: So we got the video now. I got two million
Speaker 1: views in the first two days. That's that's big shout
Speaker 1: with my brother Will seeing Tanna Big Tree. He treat
Speaker 1: He entertainment got here. That's little did anything the videos out.
Speaker 1: We did two million views first two days. I know
Speaker 1: y'all rappers do a billion views, but for me, that's
Speaker 1: a good look. I'm from Brooklyn. Sidewalk is different. I'm
Speaker 1: a ray bridge between Happen Sin Severatober. That's a good
Speaker 1: look for me. This is mean, Like if you would
Speaker 1: google me and ifs biggest arguments that's consistent on this show.
Speaker 1: It's just one argument. It should have been on Quick Time,
Speaker 1: which we already established. I said major or independent, that's
Speaker 1: really what it is. But you said earlier I had
Speaker 1: one point five million dollars deal. It's the worst worst
Speaker 1: mistake of my life. Man, Why would you say that?
Speaker 1: The worst thing I ever did was took that deal
Speaker 1: with you and you had Chris Light here around at
Speaker 1: that time. Rest in piece of Chris, like, explain this, sir,
Speaker 1: worst mistake I ever made in my life. Okay, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: young up and coming artists. I don't know what he's
Speaker 1: about to say, but let's just take the facts of
Speaker 1: what what is? What is about to be articulated. He
Speaker 1: said he had one point five million dollar deal, but
Speaker 1: let's be yeah, the deal, it's not marketing. They had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the one point. Basically we all
Speaker 1: know that. Okay, you got a kid from Brooklyn, right,
Speaker 1: got a pas head kid from Brooklyn. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: from the sidewalk, I don't wait that on my sleeve.
Speaker 1: As you see, I promote black love positivity, but I'm
Speaker 1: tougher than a lot of these nigs. Anyway, I come
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, from the sidewalk, and he makes it into
Speaker 1: the music business. Right he's grinding he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: record deal. This is me I'm talking about. I'm talking
Speaker 1: person is following. This kid's narrating his story. This kid
Speaker 1: is from Brooklyn. Everybody's rooted for him. Coincidentally, this is
Speaker 1: the same people that knew him before he signed the
Speaker 1: deal with case Leave, but they're rooted for him now.
Speaker 1: It's cool, embraced the love. I'm working hard. I'm building
Speaker 1: up a bus. I gained that. I'm the radio now,
Speaker 1: I'm doing tours. I'm doing toys. I'm performing from state
Speaker 1: to state every other day. I'm releasing music on a
Speaker 1: constant basis. This ship goes on from oh fod to
Speaker 1: oh seven. I've never had a record deal all that time,
Speaker 1: everybody thought, oh, pappers up, pappish. I never had a
Speaker 1: record deal. I was getting shown money, I was getting
Speaker 1: featured money, and I was touring. Now I signed a
Speaker 1: record deal in two thousand and seven, so basically I
Speaker 1: was independent that whole time, getting money. Once I signed
Speaker 1: the record deal, you have people telling you, have individuals
Speaker 1: in white shirts and suits telling you Oh, you don't
Speaker 1: need to make that record like that. You need to
Speaker 1: make it like this. I los I lost Job Records.
Speaker 1: I lost all creative control at that point. Let's let's
Speaker 1: be particular. Who is is the CEO? Is Barry White?
Speaker 1: This guy, this guy from Job Records. He's an asshole.
Speaker 1: What's his name? He goes by the name with Jeff Finster.
Speaker 1: He's the devil singing himself. I'm gonna put him out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: you ever heard of this guy? Know? What is his name?
Speaker 1: Jeff Finster? No, but let's talk about this. This dude
Speaker 1: is This dude is the worst guy you ever wanted
Speaker 1: media life. I hope he's watching because I'm still here.
Speaker 1: I'm still alive, and you wanted me that getting money.
Speaker 1: You try to ruin my life. I'm still getting money,
Speaker 1: my family still eating, and I live in a mansion
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. So you didn't stop nothing. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make some more stock. You know, you try to
Speaker 1: in my you try to in my career. You know
Speaker 1: you hated on me. You did everything you could think of.
Speaker 1: But I don't blame I don't blame you for that, brother,
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. So what I'm saying what happened. Basically,
Speaker 1: this guy lied, This gout lied myself and my brother
Speaker 1: Kate slay Man. Who changed my life? Who who the
Speaker 1: only one that gave me an opportunity to do this
Speaker 1: to live by my dream? My brother Kate slay He
Speaker 1: gave a lot of people that we need your stream. Myself,
Speaker 1: myself and my brother Kate slay We signed that. Y'all
Speaker 1: records we had a bit in war numerous record lay
Speaker 1: who was what interested in signing me at the time.
Speaker 1: I told you I sat down with Nis. He was
Speaker 1: going to depth chair with jay Z. He wanted me
Speaker 1: to come over there. Um Atlantic you talk about. JO
Speaker 1: Records was on the same blocks Violator at that time.
Speaker 1: A bunch of different record labels were having a bit
Speaker 1: in war for me at this time, this is the
Speaker 1: dream come true for me. Don't let me say here
Speaker 1: A lot of you, a lot of guys come up
Speaker 1: here in the rap. I'm gonna hustler and the rap.
Speaker 1: I'm a gangster, I'm a rapper. I'm embracing it. I'm
Speaker 1: saying I wasn't having this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was happy to be having this moment you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And um, it was a bit
Speaker 1: in war. A lot of different labels wanted to sign me,
Speaker 1: so it just so happens. I linked up with Bust
Speaker 1: the Rhymes, who had the relationship with Chris. Lady introduced
Speaker 1: me to Chris. Chris signed me the Violator. Chris is
Speaker 1: the past. But you gotta break down with what was
Speaker 1: you violated management? Street Sweeper was entertainment violated management Busting
Speaker 1: Rhymes in case Slave did a joint feature. So now
Speaker 1: street Sweeper Slash Flip more. You understand I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: now my own boss, so it's even better for me.
Speaker 1: Now we're going back. Let's go back. So now I
Speaker 1: signed with Violator. I'm sorry I didn't sign with you.
Speaker 1: Don't sign a management, you would be a dummy. I
Speaker 1: link up with Violator. We're working. So now I got
Speaker 1: this spitting wall and seven hundred thousand off overhead, four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand from Niles over here. He's going to deaf Jam,
Speaker 1: which Casey wasn't with my brother, and I trust him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Um, job comes in at
Speaker 1: one point five million. Alright, it's not that we money hungry.
Speaker 1: Our brother Chris Likedy is the president of that job.
Speaker 1: We're like, Chris was the president, alright, So we're like,
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer, Chris the president. We go to live,
Speaker 1: we go to job, we go to job. We look
Speaker 1: on the internet. A week later, Chris is not the
Speaker 1: president no more? What the ch You couldn't get inside
Speaker 1: of information? What's going on? What you You're not the
Speaker 1: president no more? This is where coming off. She is
Speaker 1: kind of where the restarted that. So we're like, damn,
Speaker 1: Chris is not the president. Okay, we rolled them with
Speaker 1: the punches. He's give an explanation. I'm still I'm still
Speaker 1: going to communicate. This is where he brings this devil
Speaker 1: in by the name of Jeff Fenster. He's going to
Speaker 1: be handling on your project now. So just to summarize
Speaker 1: it with this dickhead, did I hate to talk like this? Man?
Speaker 1: I try to be positive. Man, you gotta let it
Speaker 1: go for right right in therapeutic So we're doing records, right.
Speaker 1: So we're in the meeting and I'm playing all of
Speaker 1: my records and me and Slay are like, all right,
Speaker 1: these are the three records. We think it can be singles.
Speaker 1: So this guy's like, okay, I'm gonna play all three
Speaker 1: records for the owner of the label who signed me,
Speaker 1: which was the reason why anybody the label was mad.
Speaker 1: What that was? That very right? So Barry White and
Speaker 1: Peter Theter was the two bosses that job. When I signed,
Speaker 1: they flew me out and the guy told me my face,
Speaker 1: I signed you because my son is a fan of
Speaker 1: a lot Barby. This is why he signed me. This
Speaker 1: is why all the workers at the label was mad
Speaker 1: because I didn't come through none of them. I went
Speaker 1: straight to their boss. They hated my guts at the label.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying so this is real ship. I can't
Speaker 1: make this up if I tried. So all these niggers
Speaker 1: at the label is mad. What I'm saying because I
Speaker 1: I donna throw a couple of these things on the bus.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do it. Everybody at the labels, every
Speaker 1: rat the label, they feel some type of way. He's
Speaker 1: on your left shoulder when you're right so check it out.
Speaker 1: So check it, check it. I'm on Job Records. Now.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember this is an R and B label,
Speaker 1: So at that time, nor even know the formula. You
Speaker 1: put your ship out, you get on beat nigger you
Speaker 1: out of here. You're going to the moon. Who everybody's
Speaker 1: on the label? Chris Brown, t pay Kelly, Thank God,
Speaker 1: I ain't do that one. Um. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I keep going and I can keep going to a
Speaker 1: lot them beat niggers on this label. I'm on the label,
Speaker 1: my deal one point five million. So what they're doing
Speaker 1: is they're mad because I signed directly to their balls.
Speaker 1: They're blocking on the arm beat niggers off my project.
Speaker 1: I'm talking on beat niggas about doing features and they're
Speaker 1: blocking them. This is the beginning of your black balling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he don't think it's real. Tell them I lived this ship.
Speaker 1: So they're blocking me. They're blocking on niggers off my project.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this is funked up, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So this guy, Jeff Fenster, me and me
Speaker 1: and my brother came slid in the meet and we
Speaker 1: played the three singles. He's like, Okay, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: these three singles. I'm gonna play them for the owner
Speaker 1: of the label so we can push one out there.
Speaker 1: I mean one of them. We wanted to get Snoop
Speaker 1: on what Snoop got on shout to my brother Snoop Dog,
Speaker 1: he got my first single. UM. So he comes back
Speaker 1: to us, this guy Jeff Fenster, who fucking we you know,
Speaker 1: got this illegitimate morefucker about default because Chris Likedy is
Speaker 1: no longer the president. He comes he's the president at
Speaker 1: this point. This guy this I don't know what he is,
Speaker 1: what the title of this n don't let me call
Speaker 1: him what I want to call him. So he comes
Speaker 1: back to us and he's like, yo, I played the
Speaker 1: records for um the owner of the label, and this
Speaker 1: is the one he likes. And we like, damn you sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is the single. The single go out just
Speaker 1: so happy. It's sucking. UM, I think it's banging out
Speaker 1: featuring Snoop Dog. We had another one that was more
Speaker 1: commercial called fitting head Low. So we had the label
Speaker 1: one day and we see the owner the label and
Speaker 1: we're like, yo, you know, we're glad you like the record.
Speaker 1: He's like, were glad you like the records? He's like,
Speaker 1: we're records only hear one record. M So this motherfucker
Speaker 1: lie about playing the music for the owner because he
Speaker 1: wanted the record to come out that he wanted to
Speaker 1: come out. It's not even that he wanted the record
Speaker 1: to come out. He wanted to pay Snoop Dog so
Speaker 1: he could get kicked back, which was seventy thod dollars.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. This is the function, this,
Speaker 1: this is why. This is what I'm saying. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying to you, this is what he did. So he
Speaker 1: lied about playing the records to the owner of the label.
Speaker 1: Then he chose a record which he can overcharge my
Speaker 1: budget for because none of them was able to take
Speaker 1: a penny on my budget, which is why the he
Speaker 1: was mad. He lied about that. Whatever he did, he
Speaker 1: did the fun Ship. Now we see the owner label,
Speaker 1: we probably found out he didn't even play the music
Speaker 1: for the Nigger. The single was out already, so before
Speaker 1: they find out he did the funx Ship. He got
Speaker 1: me off the label real quick. What I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: when you say got it from label, that's like the
Speaker 1: famous thing where people say that you got dropped, got dropped. Well,
Speaker 1: they couldn't drop me like a bad They dropped me,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't drive me like a bad habit because
Speaker 1: me and Case negotiated the deal with we keep the
Speaker 1: one point five basic noise. You got dropped the back fence, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we got off. We
Speaker 1: got off the label. Man, I hope I'm not saying
Speaker 1: too much good. This is what. This is what this weekend.
Speaker 1: This is what happened. If anything, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: As an artist, when you if I do a song
Speaker 1: with you, you do a song with me, I want
Speaker 1: to want my fans to funk with you. I want
Speaker 1: my your fans to fun with me. So assisially, this
Speaker 1: is what this is. This is the first time I
Speaker 1: ever traded fans. Like every time I did a record
Speaker 1: with a person, I want to day fans. The only
Speaker 1: time I ever got their fans. This is being honest.
Speaker 1: That's what features are. And you think about Kelly. When
Speaker 1: I did a record Kelly, Yeah, look, my only record
Speaker 1: IVE ever did with jay Z is what Kelly? You know?
Speaker 1: I said, all of my core fans who follow me,
Speaker 1: I sent Kelly Cure. This is for my core fans
Speaker 1: who bought my music every morning. I sent them kill you.
Speaker 1: I sent them kill and him and his luke Um
Speaker 1: minions whatever you call they played games. But I ain't
Speaker 1: really mad at them because they was under the influence
Speaker 1: of the you know what I'm saying. But whatever, man,
Speaker 1: you went right over my head. You said the Cure.
Speaker 1: I had a record called Cure that eventually every cob
Speaker 1: I do did it. This ship is crazy. That's better.
Speaker 1: I want you to hear it. Man, Nobody at the time,
Speaker 1: I'm the hottest thing in the world. I dealt want
Speaker 1: fight one point five millions, keep talking about it's out
Speaker 1: of here at that time, that that that time, at
Speaker 1: that time time. That's by the way, he's done a
Speaker 1: molested at this time when trying he's a molesta. But
Speaker 1: nobody knows, alright, everybody, but unfortunately, so this is the time.
Speaker 1: So you you you calling your label to try to
Speaker 1: get all on the record. You're calling your able to
Speaker 1: try to get on I'm on the label with these guys,
Speaker 1: we label weights. Who is it our Kelly? It's all
Speaker 1: Kelly Teeth paying Paine Well, I sun the tea pain
Speaker 1: think I can I can own that that was what
Speaker 1: happened with t pay sir, because I can see it
Speaker 1: in your face. Something happen when I went when I
Speaker 1: went to the tea paying party. So we can lock
Speaker 1: the deal win for him to do the record. Somebody
Speaker 1: got beat up. You know what I'm saying. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna talk too much about that, but that was my fault.
Speaker 1: They have more timberlance, like white t. Paine was the
Speaker 1: only guy on the label who was going to do
Speaker 1: a record with me eventually at that time. Know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was told when I first signed to
Speaker 1: the label that Chris Brown expressed that he would do
Speaker 1: a record with me, but they kept him away from
Speaker 1: me because they was hating on me. To know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, This is pre Weanna. Yeah, this is back then.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So before I mean, but
Speaker 1: thank god, I'm in a great space now and I
Speaker 1: got my new single. I thought I was gonna stop
Speaker 1: featuring two change with me my bust to see this
Speaker 1: and be like, he's been up. I'm in a great space, man.
Speaker 1: But this is therapeutic. Yeah, the stuff that people can
Speaker 1: learn from, that's really at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: People can learn from all these experiences got you. And
Speaker 1: by the way, look this is what's his name of
Speaker 1: this watch Friday right down to the bar, Telly and Time,
Speaker 1: Tolly and twine, Twine. This is a black old watch company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a black watch them during our bail Great dude,
Speaker 1: what you say? I met them during our basil event
Speaker 1: and just met them. They want to collaborate with drink Champs.
Speaker 1: They send over some watches for both of us. You
Speaker 1: got the same watch, the same watch. You couldn't put
Speaker 1: it on today. So for special occasions that were classy watch,
Speaker 1: we gotta get you. You gotta get you back into watches.
Speaker 1: We gotta get you. Yeah, I see you back in
Speaker 1: the days. It was Julie. That was back in the day.
Speaker 1: You don't want to buy jury want to buy nothing.
Speaker 1: Getting money though you're getting He's getting that money, not me.
Speaker 1: We need to upgrade something about your man always like yo,
Speaker 1: My man, always like yo. Make sure you cool him Djen,
Speaker 1: He don't like man an. He's a legend. But let's
Speaker 1: just rest this because the timely wine. This is fine.
Speaker 1: They know what they know. My heart is in the
Speaker 1: right place. Really and great dudes, uh they say, the
Speaker 1: only the only I think black owned luxury watch companies.
Speaker 1: This is five bands. Yeah, from what they told them,
Speaker 1: this is five ship fighter yeah, black owned. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that ship. I told him that, you know he
Speaker 1: when I was he like it is classy. Yeah, classic, man,
Speaker 1: I will win this ship. Yeah, we're gonna we should do,
Speaker 1: because I don't know how to pronounce your last name.
Speaker 1: My last name not a cocktail? What is it? You're
Speaker 1: not something? Bust is mad? Easy to come on, man, listen,
Speaker 1: that's what the name of the watching called. Yeah here
Speaker 1: you not drink Champs to drinks? Has fucking this? Watch
Speaker 1: up a drink Champs watch? No, man, we are not
Speaker 1: elegant at all. We are not drinking beak drinking my
Speaker 1: moana out and now papus you out here with you
Speaker 1: see you outside? I mean the minimum, you know, that's
Speaker 1: the minimum. You know. I mean, I ain't gotta watch show.
Speaker 1: I gotta show just about watches? Is what? What did
Speaker 1: you want first? When you've got in the industry, the chain,
Speaker 1: or to watch? I ain't got a lot of the
Speaker 1: way y'all niggas shipped back in the days. Man with
Speaker 1: the roles always wanted the ro man talked about it
Speaker 1: and y'all jay Z he was a part of Yes,
Speaker 1: the records man. So so it was the watch first.
Speaker 1: It was the watch because you know why I always judged.
Speaker 1: I always know if a person chooses the watch first,
Speaker 1: that means they're gonna last, because the chain is gonna
Speaker 1: wi You know what it was when I was thirteen
Speaker 1: that had gold teeth and gold chain Gucci links. It
Speaker 1: was hollow, but I hadn't had gold. That's when my
Speaker 1: goldfriend what obvious gets from picking the avenue and browns
Speaker 1: right here? This is only a good place. I had
Speaker 1: gold teeth, and I had I had changed when I
Speaker 1: was really little, but I always wanted a Rolex because
Speaker 1: the way these guys were shining in the industry with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I need one one day. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's it's different, Like what what what
Speaker 1: the mill said? What's that role test? Modus? I wnna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Uh, cor correct me, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I don't know if it was my
Speaker 1: birthday or Christmas. I think it was my birthday. Keep
Speaker 1: around the plus my wife he bought me this as
Speaker 1: a gift. It was. It was a birthday gift from
Speaker 1: my wife. Just this Rolex, right Jesus. And then I've
Speaker 1: seen your weather. You got mad. We got married. We
Speaker 1: got married, and Long Island at a very unique place. Man.
Speaker 1: It was a castle. It was a castle. It was
Speaker 1: it was a real castle. But like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: when she was in constrating, we got married over the phone.
Speaker 1: So we had to have a big ceremony. She came home.
Speaker 1: We didn't at the castle. You know what was funny
Speaker 1: and didn't really as people call us the book. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is funny. So I'm like, really, that's why
Speaker 1: I thought about y'all rap battle. You're like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on, so I'm next. Because the few year
Speaker 1: was almost like a battle. It was like bath is coming,
Speaker 1: but y'all never rap battle that one. No, I really
Speaker 1: she would kill me if she like like you being
Speaker 1: she's nice man. She would get versus y'all against each other.
Speaker 1: That was like my nice question. Would I wouldn't go along?
Speaker 1: I went bad? You like you versus? Yeah? That ship
Speaker 1: is fire? Who who? Who your ultimate poem? Who you
Speaker 1: ultimate opponent? Yeah? I would do with anybody. We want
Speaker 1: to smoke nigger that you want to smoke with? You want?
Speaker 1: I don't got nobody particularly I want to smoke with.
Speaker 1: The only person I went bad was cool. You come on, slidestock.
Speaker 1: I'm being really, I think nobody really want a battle.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in life period, I would battle anybody
Speaker 1: except that Nigga turns to the jack the ripper and
Speaker 1: your career we tell you. So I went into an
Speaker 1: l show. By the way, this is real. So I
Speaker 1: got home for I can't it's Top forty all the
Speaker 1: depth can things just on the Top forty tour. They're
Speaker 1: like on a forty day tour. Only on fourteen days
Speaker 1: of those tours. They like Nigga, you just talk Billy
Speaker 1: Nick Top forty, everyone else. Everyone else's real Top forty,
Speaker 1: like you just crossing over, like you go, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be on all these days. Where's day now? I
Speaker 1: had to watch else that he was closing, not the
Speaker 1: horch I at left this part of the show me.
Speaker 1: He just hands out roses. See what I'm saying, This
Speaker 1: is thinking different, could do that, Maybe can't could do that.
Speaker 1: It's different different cos his commercial success. So let me
Speaker 1: finish this and I'll let you take back over. When
Speaker 1: all was giving these bitchess roses, they're going and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at me and he's just he's just walking around.
Speaker 1: This is where his shirt comes walk up. Is he
Speaker 1: doing a song? This can't gonna stay on best. By
Speaker 1: the way, I think he invented that taking the shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm looking And by the way, I was my man.
Speaker 1: I got his phone number. But by the way, he
Speaker 1: has three rooms on tour. He has his room where
Speaker 1: he just talked to himself. He just all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you think I voted. He talked to himself. Listen,
Speaker 1: he just in there like it's about to go in.
Speaker 1: And he has his kids room, he has his statter room.
Speaker 1: He has three rooms, just anything like everybody who all
Speaker 1: rappers who did shows that I was like this Nicka
Speaker 1: Nories give really Ray two muce. But anyway, so this
Speaker 1: is my first time I'm on tour with these names.
Speaker 1: By the way, all of them got helicopter's private planes.
Speaker 1: I'm still on United on I'm on contidential airlines with
Speaker 1: the same top for the records that the definitely it
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, you just gotta fit in, all right.
Speaker 1: So this is the first it's the first day. The
Speaker 1: first day, I gotta like you just just go normally,
Speaker 1: like you get the same money as they get you,
Speaker 1: just like I'm going with it. So that's the first
Speaker 1: thing I actually stayed to watch L perform and my nigga,
Speaker 1: this nigga has parts of his show because I've seen
Speaker 1: Caress one. You ever seen Caress One give a speech
Speaker 1: at this show? No, yo, your caress will rock the party.
Speaker 1: I was straight and then just stopped a lecture. Do
Speaker 1: you guys love you yourself? Yeah? Everybody, you don't start,
Speaker 1: Oh if I really love me whatever? Carros was saying, sweet, So,
Speaker 1: how do you think I got that tennis ball? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: SO has that same exact love me. So L has
Speaker 1: the same as action, but he's like speak he like, yo, yo, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, before you go, I need love.
Speaker 1: He's just giving out these roses and you're not really
Speaker 1: realizing he about to go, I need love. And then
Speaker 1: if it's just just falling out. And by the way,
Speaker 1: very professional. His wife and kids is in the next room.
Speaker 1: I told you it's three rooms, one for himself, him
Speaker 1: and his security. Last that's why I respect him, and
Speaker 1: security is just gassing him. He's spoken around in one room,
Speaker 1: then his wife, his kids is in another room, and
Speaker 1: then like his production and all of them into another room.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, man, that's when I realized. I
Speaker 1: was like Damn bro. This is why I came into
Speaker 1: this game, and I have never had a chance to
Speaker 1: put my show together. Like, see what I'm saying about
Speaker 1: l L. You you're going to a battle. When I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I used to battle. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You're going to bad I'm a batteriss nigger.
Speaker 1: L morphs into another character, court Jack the Rill. But
Speaker 1: you don't even know who you're battling. How can you
Speaker 1: battle this nigga? I would never talk about the cannabis situation.
Speaker 1: You think I was being a bully or cannabis tribe.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was being a bully. Shout out
Speaker 1: the cannabis, very dope, nervous. By the way. By the way,
Speaker 1: why does a run. He said that we wouldn't send
Speaker 1: up a car service, sir. It's just always said sad.
Speaker 1: But he said something about we didn't send him. He said,
Speaker 1: we just send a car service. It's like car services
Speaker 1: got you, like, shout out the cannabis, very dope, livous. Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta say that in your opinion. One of the
Speaker 1: thing I don't think that was being a bully. I
Speaker 1: think when he said, uh, your math with the man
Speaker 1: that Mike on your arm? Can I borrow that? I
Speaker 1: think it was all fan love and war after that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like I said, you
Speaker 1: out the cannabis. But I think l L had a
Speaker 1: legitimate reason to go left after that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to wake up old demons. Both of them are spoke,
Speaker 1: both of them. That's over and so. But L you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Do you can say to yourself
Speaker 1: a pat rap? Now? I used to do that when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I'm not even lying to you,
Speaker 1: Oh my lying. We used to being on the whole
Speaker 1: way war together. You know so right now, Uncle Murder
Speaker 1: say um right now. It's like for me and I
Speaker 1: love a battle culture. I love battle rap, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But for me, it's like it's almost
Speaker 1: like going backwards because I was doing it when I
Speaker 1: was younger than I can't I returned into I transitioned
Speaker 1: into a recorder. Honest, I can't say. If somebody coming
Speaker 1: with the right bag, I won't do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And you would do versus versus. I
Speaker 1: do that against your body. I'll do it against anybody.
Speaker 1: I'll do it against whoever. And you didn't say you
Speaker 1: have one opponement an opponent now, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: do under scream need from Brooklyn. Okay, let's think, guys,
Speaker 1: what's this a perfect opponent I don't know, versus if
Speaker 1: they think I'm worthy, I'll come to it. Yes, cast
Speaker 1: caste cast he shout the cash, shout the bleak bleak,
Speaker 1: shout at my brother bleek bleek is we talked from
Speaker 1: time to time. Shout the bleak, shout the freeway. Somebody
Speaker 1: say our cast I'm gonna do right now, Holy sh it,
Speaker 1: Oh that'd be interesting. That'll be interesting that Joe shout
Speaker 1: to Joe. But I don't think he wrapping them more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me neither. I'm been trying to have him come outside
Speaker 1: or what they said, Gilly Joe, like I've seen that
Speaker 1: do it and didn't do new wraps. I've seen that.
Speaker 1: You think we did go win that Gilly or Joe?
Speaker 1: Both of them nice though they are back, actually both
Speaker 1: get wraps. Let's just um, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: both nice, but it would have to be new lyrics
Speaker 1: now right because Joe can't keep doing pump it up
Speaker 1: like like what I'm saying, like he happened though somebody
Speaker 1: called somebody out and somebody said let's go and don't
Speaker 1: we hit nothing else. No, I called Joe out. I
Speaker 1: wanted to Joe. Joe said, no, you got two many
Speaker 1: years durfy down to music and which I've expected. But
Speaker 1: when people do know is we were at bar one
Speaker 1: hanging out and I gave him to say. I was
Speaker 1: said let's go me and you because he he died.
Speaker 1: I got called camout. And this is before dip set ship.
Speaker 1: Joe was like, yo, leave Cam alone. I told he
Speaker 1: was podcast brother supposed to go with you. Then I
Speaker 1: humped him over with Kanye. He ain't seem being set
Speaker 1: what you was do. I was supposed to the mansion,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm not bragging his rich first purposes.
Speaker 1: Only I live in Jersey. Now. Let me not say
Speaker 1: I got the mansion in Jersey. I got the crib
Speaker 1: in Jersey now. And I went to the mall one
Speaker 1: day and I pulled in and I turned I seen
Speaker 1: my nigga Beatie seguel Man. Where the mother he was
Speaker 1: in the morning short here he was in the park
Speaker 1: at the Big Boy Westfield Westfield even market. Back up, Baby,
Speaker 1: I told me he used to come outside and he
Speaker 1: came outside the leg to that. That's my bro. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought I was like chast sizing them,
Speaker 1: but it was just the over taxtics I used because
Speaker 1: I didn't know the Kanye ship was gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: I just was like, yo, like a lot of us
Speaker 1: older it individuals have been in the game, pretend twelve
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Sometimes we have I don't want to say
Speaker 1: low suffer statements. That's a bad term, but we we
Speaker 1: forget how important we are to the community and what
Speaker 1: it is is sometimes you gotta be in front of community.
Speaker 1: Sometimes if you don't come outside, then people ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say your pack you know, you're doping. And what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you actually gotta come outside of you actually gotta get
Speaker 1: come outside to get your flowers. A lot of us, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of ups, That's right. A lot of us
Speaker 1: stay indoors and just expect just's expect the love to
Speaker 1: come to us, you know what I'm saying. So a
Speaker 1: lot of the times, that's what I was. That's what
Speaker 1: I realized. Your Miami niggas relaxed. But but that's what
Speaker 1: I realized about Miami was me being in New York
Speaker 1: was one thing for me being in Miami. It allowed
Speaker 1: people to give me my flowers in Miami because people
Speaker 1: were sitting back saying, you know what, I'm a New
Speaker 1: York nik. I could never stop me and John Singleton
Speaker 1: was lived down the block for me for the last
Speaker 1: few years. It's like John Singleton said, you will never
Speaker 1: be on my show. I said, why your New York
Speaker 1: accent is horrible? Like you can in a good way.
Speaker 1: It's about that. Let's talk about this so far. Why
Speaker 1: is it that other regions hate New York so much?
Speaker 1: Don't start this? Please, no, no, we gotta talk about this.
Speaker 1: We got because that's why, y'all he feels the same way.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I think and then you
Speaker 1: can correct me. Path Who's you're going on there? Correct?
Speaker 1: She got to be talked about because ship niggas nay,
Speaker 1: I w are you living right now? Man? I'm still
Speaker 1: in New York. I'm gonna summarize it. Y'all mad at
Speaker 1: us because we was doing this ship before or y'all
Speaker 1: like nah, It's like niggas is like I feel like
Speaker 1: New York started hip hop um when when New York
Speaker 1: was shining they didn't let us shine. So now that
Speaker 1: my region is shining. Fuck New York, let's clean all
Speaker 1: these niggas fun they Timberlands, hold on. Let they'll be
Speaker 1: hating on this. We didn't mean Paul. Let's starting hip.
Speaker 1: Let me feel everywhere freely and I get loved because
Speaker 1: I showed loves misunderstands. Why you don't know us back?
Speaker 1: I want to know why y'all be why y'all be
Speaker 1: stunning on New York. The jokes is cool, you're funny,
Speaker 1: very funny, but you gotta stop hating on the city man,
Speaker 1: the first of all, and you know this is true.
Speaker 1: First one, there's a misunderstand there's no hating on your
Speaker 1: what you call that, though there might be somebody's I
Speaker 1: don't what you're talking about. Because for me, I sit
Speaker 1: back and I see New York niggas reposting that ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's hey, it's as jokes that can't be a York.
Speaker 1: Do you know the jokes that when people would go
Speaker 1: up to New York or we'll go talk to people
Speaker 1: with the jokes on the South too. We never create
Speaker 1: no davits let's address the problem. Nor South jokes. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. There's New York. No, no, there was no
Speaker 1: that's it's coming from. He's talking what what we've talked
Speaker 1: about on the show is in the past. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about nineties. I can't talk for right now what's happening.
Speaker 1: But in the nineties, the industry, it's not it wasn't.
Speaker 1: The artist in New York, it wasn't. If you talk
Speaker 1: to any artists from the South that comes from that era,
Speaker 1: they all have love and respect for the culture. And
Speaker 1: where does the culture come from? Right? And for the
Speaker 1: all inspirations are artists from you? Because hate they also
Speaker 1: don't finish. Let me because this is a misconception. It's
Speaker 1: not a hate for you, it's a hate for the
Speaker 1: industry that was in your The industry the same the
Speaker 1: same thing that you like, the same thing everybody hates
Speaker 1: because the industry was based in New York. So what happened,
Speaker 1: I was oppressed, You feel pressed, No, it was they wasn't.
Speaker 1: I feel pressed. They was filtering what was getting signed,
Speaker 1: just like how you felt black balled. They were blackballing
Speaker 1: the regions the rest of the country. So you'll feel
Speaker 1: black that's why the West Coast when everything popped off.
Speaker 1: That's what they were. They were they were talking. But
Speaker 1: but can I ask you guys a question. You've been
Speaker 1: running the games, you guys years, enough reperations. I've only
Speaker 1: been running the game in the podcast. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: because this I sat down with on and off air
Speaker 1: man tr feel the same way. What watch watch with
Speaker 1: the micrab pull it up? Okay, no, pull it up? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't do this ship. If she searchs,
Speaker 1: that's just answer. Hipp don't no, don't no. One called
Speaker 1: me but hip hop niggas right again? Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: shout to search if she searchs. You love drink chats
Speaker 1: the bat boots, make some noise. It was going, he said,
Speaker 1: it was up to the drill again. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you something. Was there ever a time in the industry
Speaker 1: you didn't have a job part the mic? Goddamnit, my brother,
Speaker 1: let's make some start calling you right back pack, Hey,
Speaker 1: listen and your whole team mem and carphones tonight. All right,
Speaker 1: It's I'll be there Jet blue man and met that search.
Speaker 1: No great dude, By the way, I say, I love
Speaker 1: them for that I was saying that playing around, but
Speaker 1: Search has always had a job in the hip hop,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because I feel like that's how we're
Speaker 1: supposed to walk away, Like when you when it's really
Speaker 1: time to retire, you posted to work at def Jam,
Speaker 1: you posted to work at that echo like he did.
Speaker 1: Glad y'are saying this because this is what I've been advocating.
Speaker 1: Me and my team have been advocating my line snaps.
Speaker 1: We've been advocating for me to have a position that
Speaker 1: toom call not just as a person who I can't
Speaker 1: think of the world right now, I'm a little hit.
Speaker 1: What did you call it? Brand ambassador? You go not
Speaker 1: as that, not just as that, but as someone who
Speaker 1: text to artists have equity and establishment because I can
Speaker 1: give an honest opinion on why all this should towards you,
Speaker 1: And you were saying, it's just now you wash and
Speaker 1: I's what I did. I was watching you on other
Speaker 1: interviews and I've seen you, you know, really believe, like
Speaker 1: really standing by that. Yeah. I mean because like I said,
Speaker 1: I lost my deal and I went to soon Cool
Speaker 1: and eventually it worked out for me. And then I
Speaker 1: can't say it right away, but eventually I stuck with it.
Speaker 1: The bag is coming in well before we wrap it up. Yes,
Speaker 1: what was that my state? Because let's let's just think
Speaker 1: about artists who are coming in this game. They get
Speaker 1: a hit record, they get this, this, this, this bars
Speaker 1: they get the same deal at one point five, at
Speaker 1: one point two to one point seven or whatever, then
Speaker 1: they lose it. What was your mind state when you
Speaker 1: when you lost it? And did you blame yourself? Did
Speaker 1: you blame Bustle, did you blame case Lay? That's a
Speaker 1: two point questions. I'm sorry the maturity hit me. As
Speaker 1: you get older, you mature, and one thing about maturity
Speaker 1: you learn you have to look at the man in
Speaker 1: the mirror. I blame myself because I should have knew better.
Speaker 1: I made mistakes. I mixed the industry with the street.
Speaker 1: I thought that when people didn't cooperate with me and
Speaker 1: people hated on me, I should have dressed them with violence.
Speaker 1: And that was a big mistake by me doing that.
Speaker 1: So due to the fact that I did that, I
Speaker 1: have to take full responsibility. Regardless of what Jeff Finston,
Speaker 1: regardless of the haters, regardless of the black bowling, I
Speaker 1: should have knew better, as a young man. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know you understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you gotta understand me. I'm gonna be honest with y'all.
Speaker 1: The closest person to me man in the world. Our
Speaker 1: mothers are identical, twin sisters. My cousin Strong, he got murdered.
Speaker 1: And you know, music was our dream. Yeah I knew
Speaker 1: how to wrap, but it was our dreams. So when
Speaker 1: we was hustling and doing negativity in the street, music
Speaker 1: was always our way out. So when I got that
Speaker 1: one point five me out of day and we was
Speaker 1: touring and I lost my deal and everything fell apart,
Speaker 1: we went back to the street. And when when we
Speaker 1: went back to the street, yeah, I went back to
Speaker 1: the street, We went back to the street. My cousin
Speaker 1: lost his life. So I feel like if my career
Speaker 1: would have took off, maybe that would have never happened.
Speaker 1: So you got to be very careful and very mindful
Speaker 1: are the decisions you make and the mistakes you make.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't beat myself up
Speaker 1: to the point where I blame myself, but I can't
Speaker 1: help us say, damn, what if my career would have
Speaker 1: took off with my little cousins still be here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So you know, be careful, be mindful,
Speaker 1: and don't take things for granted a little cause, man,
Speaker 1: that's shots. That was real. Definitely, Now there's no lie. Definitely,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna take a shot for cars. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna this is a happy note, happy note, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: We're really proud for you, and this is this is
Speaker 1: probably my last question after this. We're really proud for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so a little before you say that, let
Speaker 1: me just say thought I was gonna stop pap posts
Speaker 1: teaching in two change. Really my little rain and Buston
Speaker 1: rob is available all did you platforms? I say, drink Chance.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest podcast in a way you think you man,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this because there's a rumor and
Speaker 1: you define this rumor. But when people say lyrical artists
Speaker 1: are not don't have money, do you agree with that?
Speaker 1: Obviously you you can't agree with that because you outside.
Speaker 1: But is that the norm if if a person is
Speaker 1: lyrical and it's just it's does his life if he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the option to go on on love and
Speaker 1: hip hop? But he doesn't have the option. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: being married to like most lyrical m c s. What
Speaker 1: do you think for the lyrical mcs how? How are
Speaker 1: you gonna let me see this? You have some lyrical
Speaker 1: artists who are versatile and they're able to transition and
Speaker 1: do other things and make her wreckiss like Normy did.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting back in the day, but but I want you.
Speaker 1: I wanted I want you. I'm going to say this
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are gonna disagree with me,
Speaker 1: and I want you to know that this is coming
Speaker 1: from a person who is not broke, person who lives
Speaker 1: in the mansion. You know what I'm saying. When where
Speaker 1: it's nice, she he drives nice cars. My daughter is
Speaker 1: set for life. I'm gonna say this. Money isn't everything.
Speaker 1: It's not everything. You understand what I'm saying. And money
Speaker 1: doesn't make you a lyricist. Money doesn't make you a man.
Speaker 1: Money doesn't make you who you are. Character, dignity, loyalty,
Speaker 1: and respect make sure you are. Don't measure a man's character,
Speaker 1: ability or talent by money. You got a flight, yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's get out because that was the perfect rate
Speaker 1: to end it. Man, I'm just being honest. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I little brother being honest. Don't tell me for what
Speaker 1: I said today. Guys like we told you that you
Speaker 1: gotta do drops, you gotta do pictures. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Whatever you need me to do. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you again because we're like fake cousins. To remember that
Speaker 1: your fake cousins really really we were lad, Yeah, trying
Speaker 1: to do that back in the day. You know, get
Speaker 1: on soon. Let's take this but our show it's back, Papoosh.
Speaker 1: You a legend. Thank you man, you're a dude. That's
Speaker 1: still the test of time. You could have cracked, you
Speaker 1: could have folded, you could have left your wife, you
Speaker 1: could have did a lot of dumb ship uh real talk,
Speaker 1: and you stood there. You still. I watched you at times,
Speaker 1: and I want to be a better version for me
Speaker 1: because I sit back and I say, damn, you know,
Speaker 1: I want my wife to know I love hard just
Speaker 1: as much as that. That what you what you show
Speaker 1: when you just distribute and um, that's why I did
Speaker 1: love and hip hop too, because it was just like
Speaker 1: you know what it was. It was two reasons. It's
Speaker 1: like I could be that better version of me, and
Speaker 1: I could be that better version of me and on TV.
Speaker 1: And then it's also when DMX passed away, that dude,
Speaker 1: I spent the last two weeks of his life. He
Speaker 1: every single day X with me, six weeks, six weeks,
Speaker 1: every single day xked with me and I'm just working
Speaker 1: with him. They don't get a little emotional out, but um,
Speaker 1: and when he passed, I wanted to do the same
Speaker 1: thing I did with my father passed or my father passed.
Speaker 1: It was the biggest year of my life. I had
Speaker 1: the number one record, number one album, number one, and
Speaker 1: then I lost my father. It looked good on you, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I say that to say so I
Speaker 1: did this. But at the end of the day, had
Speaker 1: it not been the image of you and rim, wow,
Speaker 1: like how y'all held it down, Like Yo, you could
Speaker 1: do this, I could navigate through this and be still
Speaker 1: be you. I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have been able
Speaker 1: to survive. Like like the extra hit me real hard
Speaker 1: and still I still cry, like you know, that's like
Speaker 1: my my brother twin, Like you know the other day,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just me j B being the crea,
Speaker 1: just crying because because my my boy twins, because I'll
Speaker 1: be trying to be tough, but then all reality, I'm
Speaker 1: not like I'm actually a human. So I say that
Speaker 1: to say I want to thank you. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you as an artist. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: as a father. Don't want to thank you as a husband.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you because it's versions of you
Speaker 1: that I say. You know what, let me straighten up.
Speaker 1: Me'll hit me and better than me and every person
Speaker 1: he's battling. You can't say something to Norri. I want
Speaker 1: apologize to you, brother, because you messaged me and you're
Speaker 1: invited me to your anniversary and I tried everything in
Speaker 1: my power to make it and I couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: I know it was a wonderful anniversary versuit me without
Speaker 1: me being there. I only couldn't imatch it. But I
Speaker 1: want to thank you for being an advocate for black
Speaker 1: love and living it out do your family structure, and
Speaker 1: I want to thank you just for that alone. Brother,
Speaker 1: So let's get it around. Let up. I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: one thing. I'm gonna say this since we talked about
Speaker 1: relationships in marriage, I gotta say I see it all
Speaker 1: the time. A woman is the most Before I said
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot, I gotta say it. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I do the same ship. That's crazy. Me and my
Speaker 1: wife up because I feel about people should hang with
Speaker 1: marrying people saying because we bounced off each other, it's
Speaker 1: therapeutic and I hope I still can get an invite
Speaker 1: even though I didn't make the last Are you get
Speaker 1: it right? You're doing it every year. I gotta come
Speaker 1: man and take a flick and do the drop. Let's
Speaker 1: get out of statement before I'm gonna say this last
Speaker 1: thing in case you're not married, I want to let
Speaker 1: you know a woman is the most precious jewel, more
Speaker 1: precious in the ruby, ameral, diamond, or sapphire. Each man
Speaker 1: has to say, one woman and rise above the rest
Speaker 1: so she can show the world how precious she truly is. Meaning,
Speaker 1: if you don't put your woman on the pedestal and
Speaker 1: show her that loyalty and I love, you cannot respect
Speaker 1: that and return my brothers and pieces. I'm I'm about
Speaker 1: to say, can you do a six team? You can't do?
Speaker 1: You're good, You're drunk. I just want them to get uh.
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna stop featuring to change. We
Speaker 1: take a flick. Let's do it. Brother, Thanks for joining
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