1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Wilfred l here. Now, before we get into 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: the new episode of Pod Meets World, I have a 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: major announcement. Yes, just in time for the thirtieth anniversary 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: of Boy Meets World. Where on YouTube. That's right, you 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: can now see our faces and action, which I guess 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: is a good and bad thing. But okay, so we're 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: gonna put up twenty episodes from season one, some of 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: our favorites, so you can experience our looks of surprise, embarrassment, 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: and pure joy with both your ears and your eyeholes. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: So go to our YouTube channel, it's just Pod meets 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: World to see the first few episodes and subscribe for 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: all new releases and let me know what you think 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: of a face. I have some news, guys. Okay, you 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: have heard, dear listener. We have talked a lot about 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: April Kelly and where is April Kelly and what is 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: the story of April Kelly? And I was able to 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: track her down and she reached out to me. I 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: reached out to her, She got back to me right away. 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: We had a wonderful conversation and I asked her on 20 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: behalf of Will and Writer and myself. I asked her 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: if she would be a guest on our pod, and 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: it didn't take her long to say no before we 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: got out, would you know. Yeah, it was pretty much 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: like that. She's been incredibly private, right. Yeah, she's basically 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: left Hollywood. She moved away, and she moved away. She 26 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: has a curly separate career. I mean, she has an 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: incredible Hollywood career. She's had multiple incredible careers. Um, and 28 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 1: she yeah, she's overall just kind of an incredible, fascinating 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: her sin And she said she just doesn't want to 30 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: dip her toe back into this world. And it had 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: nothing to do with our dear listeners, That had nothing 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: to do with the three of us. Um, she just 33 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: wasn't interested. But what she was interested in doing was 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: writing me a letter that I could read on the podcast, 35 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: so that her, her voice and her words, um had 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: a place, but that they she just wasn't gonna appear 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: on the podcast. So, without further ado, here is a 38 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: pod Meets World letter from April Kelly. Greetings to all 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: you pod meets World listeners. I bet some of you 40 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: think acting on a TV show must be the sweetest 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: gig on earth, especially for a kid. Let me give 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: you a sobering dose of reality. It is actual work, 43 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: taking up maybe forty hours of your week, and you 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: still have to go to school. Every show with underage 45 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: actors must have two adults on set tasked with ensuring 46 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: the safety and welfare of those mini tornadoes in human form. 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: One is the welfare worker who makes sure nobody like 48 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: me slap someone upside the head, and the other is 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: the teacher who keeps their studies on par with regular 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: school so they will not be too far behind their 51 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: peers when the show was canceled or goes on hiatus. 52 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: So you have a full time job, You have all 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: that study and homework, and on top of that, you 54 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: are dealing with the unique issues that come with working 55 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: on any show. What kind of issues you ask for? Starters. 56 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: In order to play to Pengo with those Botta Chelly 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: curls we producers decided would be so freaking cool, Danielle 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: had to arrive several hours earlier than the rest of 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: the cast so her mom and a hairdresser could turn 60 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: her long, beautiful hair into the ten thousand, six d 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight individual ten drils that created the character's iconic looks. 62 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't exactly ten thousand, six twenty eight, But 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: trust me, it was a bunch. How long do you 64 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: think you could sit still and be tortured like that? 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Or how about Will? He was only seventeen when we 66 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: learned him from New York to l A to play 67 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Corey's big brother Eric. His parents were back east, and 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: he didn't know anybody on the West Coast but his 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: own older brother. Can you imagine being that isolated as 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a teenager, especially starting a new job surrounded by a 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: bunch of complete strangers and really wanting to impress them 72 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: enough to get your career going. As Writer went through 73 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the normal puberty fueled brooding and angst, he simultaneously appeared 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: to wrestle with the very concept of being an actor 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: at my request. At my request, his teacher occasionally slipped 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: me one of his essays or other written assignments, and 77 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: it was obvious even back then that playing best friend 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Sean would only be the precursor of tapping into skills 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: he would feel more comfortable with, like writing and directing. 80 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: With all that personal challenge, long work weeks and keeping 81 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: up with school assignments, those three child actors never once 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: let their personal stress leak through into their performances. To 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Pango was ever the girl whose insight and wisdom came 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: wrapped in endearing daffiness. Eric's impish smile and hilarious shallowness 85 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: never undermined his position as protector of his younger siblings, 86 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: and Sean remained the supportive and steadfast friend each of 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: us wishes we had, even in the face of the 88 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: character's struggles with a family situation that was not always healthy. 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Their unflagging professionalism sharply contrasted with the childish antics, ridiculous demands, 90 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: and surly attitudes I had run across with adult actors 91 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: throughout my career. Because they always behaved with consummate professionalism, 92 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: it was easy for me to forget sometimes that they 93 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: were children, which is why I was so delighted that 94 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: first October when the wardrobe mistress called me at home 95 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: to tell me the entire cast of kids intended to 96 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: show up in Halloween costumes the next morning. I remember 97 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: scrambling to find a photographer to capture their spooky finery 98 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: and paying for it myself, as the studio and network 99 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: had no interest in spending their own money to memorialize 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the event in my long career of writing and producing 101 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: situation comedies, one hour dramas, TV movies and miniseries. Those 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: photos where I posed with the cast and my four 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: ft long flowered clown tie and my high healed sneakers 104 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: represent the one and only time I ever intentionally had 105 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: my picture taken with any actor. Ugly studio politics swirling 106 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: far outside the notice of the young cast precluded my 107 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: returning to the show I created for a second year, 108 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: but I knew quote my kids unquote would be in 109 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: good hands with director David Trainer, also a consummate professional 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: and the perfect man to protect them from the worst 111 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: of the disgusting behavior and dismissive attitude displayed by a 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: certain other jerk who shall remain nameless. Even though I 113 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: spent only one season on Boy Meat's World, I have 114 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: always kept happy memories of that time, and I have 115 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the pictures to prove it. Wow. So there you go. 116 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: That got me emotional. There's our our letter from a brokelly. 117 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: What a lost voice in that room. It's intense that 118 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: she was so aware of who we were and um 119 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: what our experience was like, because yeah, I mean we 120 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: we barely were aware. I look back and I'm like, 121 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: what was happening? Um, So it's so nice that um, 122 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and she was there for us. Yeah, listeners, 123 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: you should google her and see what she's done. The 124 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: career this woman has had on television, that this woman 125 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: has had, it's phenomenal. It really writes books now too, 126 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: by the way, you guys can find her books mysteries. Yeah, 127 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: she can write. I mean she can. She can blow 128 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: doors off. I mean it's insane. Yeah, absolutely, I mean 129 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can tell from that letter. But check 130 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: out her books and google her and see some of 131 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the people she's worked with and show she's created and 132 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: helped run and I mean so much too. As we've 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: learned doing this show. Um, is how many things go uncredited. 134 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: You know, how many jobs people get because they come 135 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: in and are asked to fix something somebody else did, 136 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: But depending on how much they fixed it, that may 137 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: never even your name never even gets credited. You're just 138 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: kind of discarded and the original person gets all the credit. 139 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: And so there's a ton of things you know that 140 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure she wasn't even credited for. But the things 141 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: she's she is credited for. Our mind blowing. So anyway. UM, 142 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I I sincerely wish she was willing to be a 143 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: guest on the podcast because I would love for you 144 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: all to hear her voice in her own voice. UM. 145 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: But with that said, I one hundred percent to understand 146 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: why she does not want to do it. Yeah. We've 147 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: also said from the beginning that we don't ever want 148 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: anybody to come on here and be uncomfortable. The last 149 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: thing we're looking for is trying to have anybody come 150 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: out here and be even slightly uncomfortable about talking about anything. 151 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: And so you know, again she if she even has 152 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: that moment of hesitation, then it's like that it's not 153 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: worth it. It's just I know, I want you to 154 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: feel that way. You know. We also asked Lily if 155 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Lily was interested in coming on and and Lily very 156 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: politely declined, And I wrote her a second time, uh, 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: telling her how much we'd love to have her on, 158 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: And she declined a second time, and I said, I 159 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: totally get it. I will no longer bug you, just 160 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: so you know you have an open door policy. If 161 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: you ever change your mind, we would love to have 162 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: you on. Um. And so yeah, for you know, we've 163 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: we've discussed it there's Um, there's a lot of good 164 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: and and hard that comes with talking this openly and 165 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: looking at your experiences and looking at yourself in this way. Um, 166 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: and I understand why people don't want to do it. 167 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: And as always, like I said, Lily, open door policy, 168 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Ben open door policy, April, open door policy. Um, if 169 00:09:48,720 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: they change their minds, I'd love to have them all right, Well, 170 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: call us gluttons for punishment. No break. We talked about it. 171 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: Should we take a break between season one and season two? Where? 172 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Should we just keep going? And you know what, we 173 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: love each other, We love the show and we love 174 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: you guys so much. We decided who needs a break? 175 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Will sleep when we're dead? Sweet sweet sleep, Sweet sweet 176 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: sleep of death. I'd like to change my vote? Is 177 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: it too late to change my vote? It's a little 178 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: too late? Well, fair enough. I was thinking about it 179 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: before we jump into season two. Do you guys remember 180 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: the hiatus, the summer hiatus between season one and season 181 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: two and what you did and and all that. Do 182 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: you remember also when you heard that the show was 183 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: picked up? Did we know when season? Like? How far 184 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: after season when ended? We did we know? That's an 185 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: interesting question. I kind of I don't remember it did. 186 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Now it seems inevitable that we would be picked up. 187 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: So but at the time, like we've talked about, when 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: we were filming the last episode, there was the sense 189 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: that it could be the end. So it wasn't for sure, 190 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: but I know what our rays were good. I think 191 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: we were pretty confident. I think there was there was 192 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: a sense that it could end. You know, there was 193 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: there was no guarantee. Um also, maybe I felt that 194 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: way because we knew people could get fired at any moment, 195 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: but certainly, like I, I like there was a sense. 196 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I remember there was a sense of we were getting 197 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: twenty four share on some episodes, which was a big deal. 198 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: And I remember there was a sense that we were hit. 199 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: So I actually don't even know if I can't explain 200 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: it perfectly. Four people were watching the show in so 201 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: ratings used to work. The Nielsen ratings used to work. 202 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming they still do, but no one 203 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: really cares about them anymore. As in the same way, 204 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: but it used to work that you would have a 205 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: share of the audience um or, and I don't know 206 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: how it worked out. Was at a percentage? Was it 207 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: actually twenty four million? Million if I think a million, yeah, 208 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I think, I think. I'm not sure if that's like 209 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: like a Actually the way it worked, but there was 210 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: a shorthand that if you got a twenty four share, 211 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: that meant like twenty three million or twenty four million 212 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: people were watching the show, and that was like our bit, 213 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: and it was Corey's Alternative Friends was our first episode 214 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: to reach that, and then we continued to hit that 215 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: number on a somewhat regular basis throughout the first season, 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: which meant that we were a hit, that we were 217 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: enough to stay on the air. Nowadays, that would be 218 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: like the biggest television show of all time, because I'm yeah, 219 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: by the time, I mean when we were getting when 220 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: we got canceled in our seventh season, we were still 221 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: getting like twenty share or whatever, and like only a 222 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: few years later that would have been the number one 223 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: show on television. So you know, I don't mean to 224 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: interrupt in this might make it more confusing, but it 225 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: says in TV media planning, a share refers to the 226 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: percentage of households that is exposed to an advertisement measured 227 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: against the total number of households who were watching television 228 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: at that specific time, which people. Yes, that's the way. Yeah, 229 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that's that's that's what it means. But it 230 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: basically means that that that your show is worth money 231 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: the network because that means that means that they're able 232 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: to turn to advertisers and say, we're getting this kinds 233 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: of numbers, do you want to advertise on this show? 234 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: And so for a show like ours, that's everything because 235 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: that's the network then decides to keep you around. Um yeah, 236 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know, I just yeah, So 237 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: I didn't remember this correctly. I had thought between second 238 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: and third season I went off and did an ABC 239 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: Movie of the Week, but I actually did it between 240 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: first and second season. Yeah, I did, which is crazy, 241 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: like you know, there I and will You ended up 242 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: doing multiple versions of these. But you know, back then 243 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: they would just like cast you in a TV show 244 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: if you were on like on a b R in 245 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: a movie. So ABC did Movies of the Week and 246 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: they just gave me a job, I guess as an 247 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: indication of like how well boy Me's world was doing 248 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: and that I was getting sort of acknowledged as a 249 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: as an actor on this show and like not no 250 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: longer just the two line best friend. They just offered 251 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: me the starring role in this ABC movie of the 252 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Week called Summertime Switch, and so I went off to Jacksonville, 253 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: Florida for at least three weeks. It was. It was 254 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: an amazing in cast. Actually, so it's Jason Weaver who 255 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: had been um the singing voice of Young Simba, and 256 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: he was an amazing singer and dancer, uh and actor. 257 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: He was UM. He was also in the Jackson five 258 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: movie that had been come out around that time, like 259 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: maybe a year or two before they did a television 260 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: movie about the Jackson five. So he was this an 261 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: incredibly talented actor. And we played two guys who go 262 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: to the wrong summer camp, like we have the same name, 263 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like the preppy guy and he's like the 264 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: criminal kid, and we I end up at the prison 265 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: summer camp and he ends up at like the rich 266 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: kids summer camp. And so I actually didn't get to 267 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: work with Jason all that much because we were on 268 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: opposite scenes all the time. But also had Soleigh Moonfry 269 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: in it. It had David tom if you guys remember 270 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: David Toms, Patrick Grenna and one of the sand Loot 271 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: guys was in it. When he was him a lot, 272 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: So it was a really fun cast. It was just 273 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: basically like it was basically like summer camping in Jacksonville, Florida. 274 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Like I remember I did my first time doing karaoke 275 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: out there, um, and like none of us really cared 276 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: about the movie. Were like, you know, I think I'm 277 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: horrible in this film. I had to play basketball, which 278 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I think I talked about on this show was the biggest. 279 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: But this also explains why my hair is so short 280 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: coming back into season two, because they gave me like 281 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: a super short, preppy haircut, and I'm like, you know, 282 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, some people have reached out 283 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: to me and said that they love this movie. I 284 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: refused to watch. Oh god, it's so maybe it's amazing. 285 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch it though, I'm so embarrassed. 286 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: But to the rewatch of Summertime Switch podcasts, No, No, 287 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: why writer it Similarly to the way you look like 288 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: a child in Boy Meets World, you would look like 289 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: a child in this movie. And so it's not going 290 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: to be like self conscious because it looks like you 291 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: as a grown man on screen. Why would you not 292 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: watch it? I think I'm very bad in and I 293 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: remember having struggles with the director. I remember the director 294 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: wanting me to be funnier and pushing me into you 295 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: know what was probably required, which was to be an 296 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: over the top funny character. And I didn't want to 297 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: be that actor, Like I didn't enjoy that kind of acting, 298 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: Like I was not interesting. Like I remember him specifically 299 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: being like, be more like Jim Carrey, you know how 300 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Jim carried and like, I am not that guy like 301 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: and at the time, I I didn't like that, Like 302 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want you know, of course, I wanted to 303 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: be a serious actor. I wanted to be a real actor. 304 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I came from theater. Boy Meets World was not really 305 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: my style like doing, you know. So I just suddenly 306 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: found myself being plugged into this over the top comedy, 307 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: which I'm sure is fine. It just wasn't me, you know. 308 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: And so I was very uncomfortable the entire time with 309 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the actual acting. And so when I look back on it, 310 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I just feel uncomfortable and the like when I've seen screenshots, 311 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: I just it makes my skin crawl. As an experience, 312 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: it was super fun off camera, like it we were 313 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: all staying in the same hotel, you know, it's all 314 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids and our parents and we would 315 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: just play games and hang out and um, it was 316 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: so like it was a good experience as far as 317 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: the you know, the friendships that I've forged and the 318 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: relationships we had off camera, but on camera I was 319 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I was really uncomfortable and unhappy, which you know just happens. 320 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: I challenge you to doing a Summertimes which rewatch this 321 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: season within as a special episode. We can, we can 322 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: rewatch it and talk about it. You can say no, 323 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: but I'm just throwing it out there with love. It 324 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: would be a it's a safe space and then we 325 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: can do my date with the President's daughter there you go. Yeah, 326 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: but Will is actually great in that if I remember, 327 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: I'm phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal that the thing Will was always 328 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: you just always loved acting like you were always so 329 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: comfortable in your skin, and you knew exactly what you 330 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: were doing and who you were, and you were doing 331 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: exactly what you like I grew up wanting to do. 332 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, for me, I was always like, why am 333 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: I here? What is happening? And I just always felt, 334 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, out of place? Was always less Jim Carrey 335 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: less like Jim Carrey, so, well, what did you do 336 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: during that summer hiatus? This was in some ways of 337 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful hiatus for me, and in some ways a 338 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: very horrible hiatus for me. So I was living in 339 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, I had, you know, was starting my life 340 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: as an adult, and then I had to go back 341 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: and graduate high school. And high school was not a 342 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: good time for me. Um, I did not you know, 343 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I was not treated real well in high school. I 344 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a close group of friends. Um, you know, 345 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to any of the parties and any stuff. 346 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: And then I came back and from being on television, 347 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: I was now one of the popular guys, and and 348 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: they had rewritten history to where all the times I 349 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: was not invited to parties, all of a sudden I 350 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: was there. So they'd start saying things like remember that party, 351 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, no, I wasn't there, Like yeah 352 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: you were, Yeah, no we hung out that Like, all 353 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I was rewritten into this history where 354 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: every Friday night I was home with my parents. But 355 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: now everyone wanted to brag about being your friend now. 356 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: So it was so the first three months leaving the show, 357 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: was tough because it was like I just wanted to 358 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: get through school. By that point, I was just over 359 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: seas would end in March, and so we would still 360 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: of like most of March, April, May, and then however 361 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: long Intervil. So I had like three and a half 362 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: months of school and I was just over it. I 363 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: wanted to just get out. And and then so once 364 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: once I graduated, it was great because then I went 365 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: and did UM, an awesome show on Nickelodeon. I did 366 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: in an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark, 367 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: which is a super cool show and has become like 368 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: a cult hit, and I got to play a character 369 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: we were up in. We shot it up in Montreal, 370 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: and I got to play a character who's walking home 371 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: through these thick woods. You would have loved it. Writer 372 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: like this, He's a revolutionary work. And it turns out, yeah, 373 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: it turns out that he runs into a character an 374 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: old Rever War soldier. I think we watched it one 375 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: time at your house because I asked, and a ton 376 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: of fun. And my one cool friend from high school 377 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: I literally talked to you last night, who I'm still 378 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: really good friends with. UM was an extra and he 379 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: was the guy who He always looked like he was 380 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: forty when when we were in high school. So sitting 381 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: right behind me is is a guy we're supposed to 382 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: be like freshman in high school. It looks like it's 383 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: like sweet Beard. He came up to visit you when 384 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: you were in Montreal. She was my he I was 385 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: not yet eighteen, so I think he was like my 386 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: legal guardian because he was eighteen and a half or 387 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: something like that. So we drove up. We got into 388 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: my car. He and I would always take road trips. 389 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: He driven across the country a bunch of times with 390 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: up Google shout out um and he would. So we 391 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: drove up to Montreal from Kenneticut was like a six 392 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: hour drive and we went to checked everything out and 393 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: hung out in Montreal and I got to shoot be 394 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: the best and I got to shoot for It was 395 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: like two weeks and we just had it was just fun. 396 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: So it was it was the tale of two to 397 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: hiatuses for me where it started really bad and ended 398 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: really great. And I like writer. I honestly can't remember 399 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: finding out when the show was picked up. I have 400 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: no memory of Actually, I don't know if I got 401 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: a call or we were all. I mean, there wasn't 402 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: an email chain or anything like that at the time. 403 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: So I imagine you get a call from agent right going, hey, 404 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: they picked you up for another season. But I have 405 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: no memory of it whatsoever. Yeah, I don't either. I 406 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: have no memory of that. Also have no memory of 407 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: the summer. But I also like, just went back to 408 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: normal school, and then we probably went to Hawaii. My 409 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: family went to Hawaii every year, so that's where I 410 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: came back with that stellar tan and the natural blonde highlights. 411 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: And you hate it, and now you hate the beach. 412 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to be in the sun, 413 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: but I do think I do love the beach and 414 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: on the beach. Correct, that is what I do if 415 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: I go to a tropical place. I'm under a cabana um. 416 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I have no fun summer stories. Did you. 417 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: You didn't shoot anything or anything in between. I never 418 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: once shot anything in between. I never wanted to another project. 419 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Mostly by choice, I wanted to go back to I 420 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: was such a regular school kid. I wanted to go 421 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: back to regular school so bad. I loved the flip 422 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: of just being able to be with my high school 423 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: friends and the high school boys and the you know, 424 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: the normal high school experience. I wanted to do that, 425 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: and um, I also don't think I think I was 426 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: also like, I'm not going to audition. I work all 427 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: throughout the year. I don't want audition for stuff. And 428 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I was being offered anything. I don't 429 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: think I turned it down an offer, but maybe I did. 430 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: But no, I have such boring hiatus stories, so I'm 431 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: gonna just yours. I'll think about it. Maybe I'll make 432 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: one up for between season three and season four or something. Yeah, 433 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: there's there's some kind of saving a kid from a 434 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: fire or something you can Yeah, that's a good idea. Okay, 435 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: well we'll workshop that. I like it. Well, welcome to 436 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right or Strong, 437 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: and I'm Wilfredell. Okay. So, season two, episode one, back 438 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: to School. It originally aired September. The synopsis is Corey 439 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: and Sean don't exactly enjoy their first day of high 440 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: school when they face a new teacher, a bully, and 441 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: a face from the past. It was directed by David Traynor, 442 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: written by David Kendall. His first episode on Boy Mets world, 443 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: So many changes, so many changes. Two, we have a 444 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: lot of guest stars, so many guest stars. We have 445 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: Anthony Tyler Quinn who was listed as a guest star. Really, 446 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: I think he was a regular by this thought started 447 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: as a regular. Yeah, to double check, I thought interesting. 448 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: So Anthony Tyler Quinn. We know him affectionately as Tony Quinn. 449 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: He played Mr Turner, Danny McNulty, Harley Kiner, Kevin West 450 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: was Mr Stimpleton, Laura Scott was the nurse Blake Soaper, 451 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: Joey the Rat, Ethan Supply, Frankie Stachino, Marguerite Murrow was 452 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: Gail the long haired brunette, and Jeremy Wyand was Alvin. 453 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: And I think he is the person at the opening 454 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: of the show who doesn't have a shirt on says 455 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: that the seniors stole his shirt. No, Alvin. He was 456 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: one of the quote unquote nerds, wasn't he? And did 457 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: you say the other nerd which is Kaplan? What's his name? 458 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: The nerds were Jonathan Charles Kaplan. He was Herbert and 459 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: here's yeah, he worked. He took over from me from 460 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: the Graduate when we did really, when I did the 461 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: tour for the Graduate play, yeah, he took over from me, 462 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: so I met him years later and when we were 463 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: in our twenties. But the other nerd, Lucas Jackson. Guess 464 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: what that NERD's name was, what Limpkey? No, yeah, really recycled. 465 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: They recycled the name and just gave him the last name. 466 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: Calm on. Well if you think, I mean, you know, 467 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: you didn't work the first time, why would anybody know, 468 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: so you just pull out the same kind of uncool though. 469 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: I agree, mostly because my very first thought. And we're 470 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: not even in the recap yet, but yes, they started 471 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: off the scene in the school with two two nerds. 472 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I know it's it's it's that it was infuriated. I 473 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: know it was infuriated. And then to find out in 474 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: looking it up, Lemky, I honestly it was a little insulted. Um. 475 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, So Jeremy Wyant wasn't. Alvin was not one 476 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: of those two nerd characters, and Lemkey so I think 477 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: he was. I think he's I think Alvin the senior seniors. Um. 478 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: And then this was actually my first normal credit on 479 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: the show. I wasn't listed as a guest. Hey, welcome 480 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: to the show, Danielle. So I my mom swears that 481 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: I was, so I don't know. The mystery continues. I 482 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: need to talk. We need to talk to Judy Savage. Um. 483 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: And now we are as part of the cast. And 484 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: you you were, you were, You must have been guaranteed 485 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: thirteen out of exactly that's I think what it was. 486 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I was regular, but I was only guaranteed thirteen or 487 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: maybe even seventeen out of twenty one, but I think 488 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: it was thirteen for the first For this second season, 489 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: and we've got a new I guess, short and cool 490 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: cartoon opening, no credits really just new theme music and 491 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: a and a cartoony dude being discussed. Do you guys 492 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: remember this, Like I, I I don't know. I remember Michael 493 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: pitching us this during note session. We're not gonna have 494 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: opening credits, We're just gonna have a cool cartoon. And 495 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: it's it was kind of like a I think maybe 496 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: it was a new idea or maybe just a trendier 497 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: thing that was. You know, it was like an evolution 498 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: in television shows. They were moving away from that sort 499 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: of eighties sitcom opening credits, you know. But it's also 500 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: you get more time to do, get way more time 501 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: for writing, which is why. Obviously the writers loved it 502 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: um but I think it was a relatively new idea 503 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: at the time. And then of course we ended up 504 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 1: going back to opening credits in the intern near the end. 505 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: I wonder where I did. I didn't want the I 506 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: didn't care whether or not it was the first one, 507 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: but I kind of missed having opening credits. I think 508 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: it's great for actors to be individualized too, Like I 509 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: seeing an actor's face with their name, I think that's 510 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: really part of the reason. You know, like people know 511 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: my name, like people know that no you know any 512 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: anything to say like this is a performance, this is 513 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: a person beyond this character. I think it is respectful 514 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: for actors like to be to be identified that way. 515 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: I know it. It breaks the fourth wall, and it 516 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: can kind of make it. It can get easily get hokey. 517 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: But as far as like what actors bring and and 518 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: and and recognizing actors as individuals and not just part 519 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: of an ensemble but individuals, I really like opening credits 520 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: for that, but I don't like them creatively, as you know, 521 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: as far as breaking the fourth wall experience, I disagree. 522 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: I like to get I like more show. I want 523 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: to have more show. It's like, here's the show. We've 524 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: got great, this is the title of it. Let's move on, right. 525 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: And I guess nowadays it doesn't matter as much because 526 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: you can always look up actors on the internet. You 527 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: can easily be like, who's the person who plays blah 528 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: blah blah. But back then, the only way anybody ever 529 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: knew like that, right or strong wasn't the guy who 530 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: was the cool teacher but the kid, you know, it 531 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: was because of those opening credits under our faces, like yeah, 532 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: it was a really respectful sort of like showcase of 533 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: this person is this character. I just never cared about 534 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. I was one of those guys like it's like, well, 535 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: your fourth on the call sheet or third on the 536 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: call So for people out there don't know, you get 537 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: a call sheet kind of every week telling you, you know, 538 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: when you have to come into the set, who's going 539 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 1: to be there that day, And the where you're listed 540 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: on the call sheet is usually where your credit on 541 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: our show. And it was a script, right, and we 542 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: don't really have a call It was our scripts, and 543 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: so I just didn't. It was I had agents that 544 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: were like, well, do you want us to fight? So 545 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: you can be. I was like, I don't care where 546 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm listed. I do not care at all about that stuff. 547 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: I will let my performance speak for itself, and I 548 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: don't care where you have me on the list of people. 549 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: I've just always done that, so I'd like I get 550 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: when to get to the show. Plus, but you know, 551 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: again going back to the shows like Mash and Cheers 552 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I would rather have seen a 553 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: longer episode of those shows than see the same title 554 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: over over again. Um yeah, yeah, I think it's it's lost. 555 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: It's it's lost its value for at because everyone can 556 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: be looked up online, it doesn't matter as much. But 557 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: now there is also a value in you know, you 558 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: think about the Game of Thrones opening credits, like there's 559 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: so much heavy lifting being done as far as like 560 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: explaining the world and mapping it out for people and 561 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: like giving you a sense of you know. And I 562 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: also think that there's there's become this huge movement I 563 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: mean basically post the seven opening credits. Um that this 564 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: idea of like stylistically establishing the tone through the opening credits. 565 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: You know, like that's like basically now you can't have 566 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: an HBO show without like creepy piano music and like 567 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: an amazingly shot opening credit sequence that sets the tone 568 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: for the entire show. But I really starting to explain 569 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: the world didn't really start with James Bond, the James 570 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: Bond movies where it was like that was the big thing. 571 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: Was what who was going to sing the opening song? 572 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: What the opening title credit was going to be? That 573 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: was like a character of the movie was was that 574 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But well, let's jump into our recap. 575 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: We start in the Matthews kitchen, and boy, oh boys, 576 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: it pretty obvious right off the top that a lot 577 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: growing up has happened for everybody. Yeah, Alan yells for 578 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: Corey Rusty is a fresh new cut, saying he's going 579 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: to be late for the first day of high school, 580 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: and Amy says, oh, he's probably nervous. Corey comes down 581 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: and Morgan says, go back to camp loser. Morgan, his aide, 582 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: looks ten years old and she's all hipped out in 583 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: her blossom hat. Yeah, like very stylized in a completely 584 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: new direction. I was like, Ben looks like he's grown 585 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: two to three inches. He's he's freaking out. Really, he 586 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: looks different, he looks different. He looks totally different. He 587 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I could not stop saying. I was like, yeah, 588 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: that's what happens when you grow Yeah, you know. Yeah. 589 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: The difference apparently between him at twelve and thirteen was 590 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: quite a lot. Corey is actually in a good mood. 591 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: He's not nervous for his first day of high school 592 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: at all. He knows his role and he is excited. 593 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: He says all summer he bugged Eric and he took 594 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: notes about what he heard. He needs to be friends 595 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: with Harley Kinner, a most feared and influential senior at school. 596 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: He will protect him. Alan and Amy say he doesn't 597 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: need to reinvent himself for high school and no one 598 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: has a plan like that. He's the only person with 599 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: a plan. And then Sean walks in saying he lost 600 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: his copy of the plan and he's wearing fake cyberns 601 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: cybernst me yeah, and he was like what are those things? 602 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: What happened? Why do you have hair? And I was like, 603 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: it's they're fake, don't worry. But yeah, it felt like 604 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: a a bit that yeah didn't really land but really 605 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: had a long run. We just I'm wearing them for 606 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: the next kind of two scenes. Yeah, it's so weird 607 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: because I've seen, you know, people have like pulled screen 608 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: grabs from this or and people think like, oh, those 609 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: are actual sidemus because they look realistic enough, they should 610 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: have gone faker. I feel like, yeah, it should have 611 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: been more obvious that they were fake. And you noticed 612 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: that Rusty the entire time is doing the actor pushes 613 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: food around with this thing. Well, I would like to 614 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: discuss this. Actually, what on earth is he eating? Is 615 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: at breakfast soup? Is it cereal? What is that? Because 616 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: he eat it when he comes down, Well, he takes 617 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: the bull from from Rusty, so we don't know what 618 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: you eat like a champ and you're I know, you're like, 619 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't have no idea what it was yellow, It 620 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: looked like it looked like chedd cheddar broccoli soup or something. 621 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: I was just pushing it around. That's probably why he's 622 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: pushing it around. It looks really he's no, he's probably 623 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: pushing it around because he knows you're going to take 624 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: it and eat it. So he wasn't going to contaminate 625 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: your soup with his germs. That's true. So Eric comes downstair. 626 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Eric comes downstairs and hands core know he's starting to 627 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: get there. Now, he's starting to turn the corner. Eric 628 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: comes downstairs and hands Corey a contract to not contact 629 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: him during school hours. He's only to refer to him 630 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: as Eric, the great one on campus. I loved well 631 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: how you knew what all the words of the contract were, 632 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: and so you were like you were like mouthing it 633 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: as he was like an East Coast prep. Now we 634 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: are done with grunge and hum and thin super thin 635 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, Michael Jacob's talk did that for me. 636 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: So really that was between season one season to know 637 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: it was it the end of season was like towards 638 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: the end of season one was that we were noticing 639 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: your gaining weight. So that was in my head the 640 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: whole time in between seasons. So yeah, it was Yeah. 641 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: I made I made sure I did not look like 642 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: that when I came back. Yeah, definitely. Hey, it looks good. 643 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: It worked. You do look great. I know, green shoes 644 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: in the green sweater. Yeah, I had that sweater until 645 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: like three years ago, did you. Yeah, Oh that's amazing. Yeah, 646 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: I love that sweater. It seems like a will sweater, right. 647 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Uh So yeah, you explain to your parents that you 648 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: can't really associate with your brother at school. Sorry. Pheeny 649 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: walks in saying a huge object is blocking his driveway 650 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: and it's Eric's car. Sean and Corey Yeah, Shawn and 651 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: Cory ask Poenie if he'll miss them now that they're 652 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: off to high school, and he says no, and then 653 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: as Eric and Feenie leave to figure out the car situation, 654 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: Sean says high school means they are done with Poenie 655 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: and that it is the greatest day of their lives. 656 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: They do their handshake to celebrate, but they say they 657 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: should do something a bit cooler now that they're going 658 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: to high school, and they do a new cooler handshake 659 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: like that. It's exactly the same, but we're just doing 660 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: it like, hey, laughing by the end, Yeah, it's just 661 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 1: to slow down hipcat version. Yeah exactly. I think Amy 662 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: and Allen are laughing too. I'm like genuinely, Rusty and 663 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: Betsy are laughing while you're doing this. Everybody was just 664 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: having fun by this point. Can we talk about I mean, 665 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just overwhelmed by this episode. I'm like, 666 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: I am dizzy with how different It's a whole different 667 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: show and it's shocking. I am uncomfortable. I am very 668 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: scared for how I'm going to feel. I'm sure it 669 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: will change, but this episode completely threw me for a 670 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: I do not feel good, Like it's a weird, like 671 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: body reaction. I don't want. And I wonder how much Okay, 672 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: we're just going into season two really quickly, Like I 673 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: think having a year off would have been nice, you know, 674 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: like having a summer would have been nice. But I 675 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: wonder how much the audience felt this too, you know 676 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: how much how much of that is just natural television, 677 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: you know new season factor like okay, and how much 678 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: of it is because it obviously I have a personal 679 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: identification with the show. I don't know, but I just 680 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: don't feel good about anything. I think. I think a 681 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: lot of it is personal identification. Also because as I'm 682 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: reading the credits, I also realized behind the scenes was complete. 683 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: Everything was different, Everything was different. It's chaos, there's so much, 684 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: there are characters, there's like fifteen bit parts. There's store 685 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: wines where it feels like and I don't like it. 686 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: I already missed season one. Season one was like a 687 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: revelation of how comfortable and cozy and awesome, And this 688 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: just feels like and that what if I if I'm 689 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: being honest, if I'm objective, I was impressed with how 690 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: the storylines, how much they were able to pack in. 691 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: They were able to pull off amazing arcs, you know, 692 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Eric coming back at the end, like I was. I was, 693 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: I was Feenie being incorporated. Mr Turner being introduced. Like 694 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: when I actually look at it on paper, I am impressed. 695 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 1: I go, Wow, they pulled it off. Sean, is there 696 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: pancas there? Like some of the even in this opening 697 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: scene you get to see the family is still around. 698 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: But it did not feel good watching the experience. Like 699 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: I can objectively say they pulled it off, but as 700 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: a as an experience, I am very uncomfortable with this. 701 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: I agree, But could you argue that the uncomfortability that 702 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: you're feeling would mirror the same uncomfortability you would actually 703 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: feel going into high school? I'm sure, yeah, yeah, I 704 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: mean that's a great way to think about it. I 705 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: just don't like, I'm hoping that this fades, you know, 706 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: And I think it's just like the new haircut, new 707 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: clothes feeling. It's just awkward and it's weird. It doesn't 708 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like my show. And it does, by 709 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: the way, feel what everyone said the reason for letting 710 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: Lee go. It does feel aged up, and and I 711 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that I like it. It's you know, um, 712 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: I know that we have to grow up. But there 713 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: was something that I had really, we had all really 714 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: settled into nicely at the end of season one. Uh. 715 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: And you're right, well, it's the comfort and coziness of 716 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: a safe environment and then the idea of entering high 717 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: school you're no longer safe. You have that that band 718 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: aid has been ripped off. But I could not agree 719 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: with you more writer, And will I know you feel 720 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: the same way it is. I'm uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. 721 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I don't remember feeling this as 722 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: we shot it. Do you I think I think I was, 723 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean, I mean I'm fine, like I 724 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: think I'm fine in the episode, but I don't. I mean, 725 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: I am very I can tell that I am uncomfortable, 726 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like I the whole thing just 727 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: threw me for a loop. I was like, no, no, no, 728 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: it's like starting a whole new show. That's what I 729 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: That's how I looked at it. I was like, okay, 730 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: so it's just a brand new show. That's what I 731 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: have to look at it as, is they just here's 732 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: the family again. The dynamics are kind of the same, 733 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: but not really. Now we've got all these new characters 734 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: doing all this new stuff, and it's weird. It was. Yeah, 735 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: it's very off the Nerds with the whole because it's 736 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: always going through my head was it should have been 737 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: late so there was now to hear that the character's 738 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: name was lem Key. That's horrifying. Yeah, so yeah, it 739 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: was strange. Well, we we meet those two new Nerd 740 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: characters in the school hallway. They walk into the hallway saying, 741 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: high school, what happens to us now? We'll determine our 742 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: entire futures. And then Corey and Sean opened the door 743 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: and it hits them in the face and they say 744 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: basically the exact same thing. Why and how this was 745 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: not just Lee? We will never know? Um did this 746 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: joke work for you guys at all? It's three times 747 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: three or four times? And I never found it funny. 748 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: I was watching it. I knew it was coming because 749 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: I remembered it, and I was like, I don't. I 750 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: don't think this is not funny and it just never 751 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: never gotta laugh. Indie never liked it. It It was never. 752 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: It's like this, I don't know, I don't, I don't, 753 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't I understand, like about this episode that I 754 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: thought missed, which is ironic because I think there's a 755 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: lot about this episode that landed. I thought Tony's character 756 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: landed very well, I thought, and we'll get to it. 757 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was little much at first, um, little 758 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: little cartoony, but we'll we'll get to all. What you 759 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: mean exactly, teach you, teach you the same thing, you know, 760 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: he's like, but it's um, Yeah, So there was a 761 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: lot that didn't land and starting with this kind of 762 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: stuff and then getting into the seniors took my clothes 763 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: like it's setting up a weird I don't know. It was, yeah, 764 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: and maybe it was just thrown by the whole thing. 765 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm trying. Yeah, I think I 766 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: think my third or fourth episode, we're going to be like, 767 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: this is great, right, everybody's comfortable. It's just like, you know, 768 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: but there's something you know, you think about how ambitious 769 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: of the first episode. This is just like we were saying, well, 770 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes must have been chaos. You have a 771 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: whole new crew, whole new writing staff, and you bring 772 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: on like literally twelve guest cast to a new and 773 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: it's insanity. We must have been pulling our hair out 774 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: going crazy this week. You must have been there's I 775 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: honestly don't. I have no memory of of I remembered 776 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: the episode or parts of it, but I have no 777 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: memory of actually doing it. I have memory of the 778 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: scene with us in the hallway, which well we will 779 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: get to right now. So Alvin the kid in his underwear, 780 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: and he says, seniors the same years, they took my clothes, 781 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: and I thought it was I think the thing that 782 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: above me the most is that he likes walking through 783 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: the hallway and then just walks right up to Corey, 784 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: just directly to Corey. Seniors senior to seniors. I know, uh. 785 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: And and he says that they took his clothes just 786 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: because he's the new kid, and oh, Corey is also 787 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: a new kid. And then new character alert Frankie comes 788 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: over and smashes Corey into the lockers because Corey was 789 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: almost in his way. Fantastic Future Pod meets World guest 790 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: in principly cannot wait to talk to him an incredible actor. 791 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: Sean says they were just looking for their home room, 792 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: and then another new character alert, another kid named Joey 793 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: enters and points to the locker says that's where their 794 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: home room is. So Sean jumps into it. And I 795 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: thought this was a really fantastic moment of Sean going 796 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: oh right here, Oh okay, I'll go ahead and jump in. 797 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. And then I had a 798 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: real memory of being in those lockers and like having 799 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: them custom made and however, you know, making sure that 800 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: you could fit, and they were all just specially made lockers, 801 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: which I was like out there basically had a latch 802 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: on the inside. Yeah, that's funny, I remember photo coph God. So, 803 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: now with their attention on Corey, Joey and Frankie get 804 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: into their own little fight because Frankie thinks Joey just 805 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: called him gay. Where I'm from, it comes from nothing. 806 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: It right, was that he's so insecure, insecure his sexuality 807 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 1: that he leaps to did you just call me these 808 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: jokes aged like milk? Yeah, no, horrible, this was and 809 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: it's so I know at the time it was far 810 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: more common, so I'm sure watching it at the time 811 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't nearly as jarring as it was to watch now. No. 812 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: I saw an episode of Friends from even later that 813 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: did this almost exactly. Or it had a series of 814 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: gay jokes like throughout. It was a runner throughout, and 815 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, this was totally normal, like the 816 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. That was the joke Bill and Ted's 817 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I mean, this was like you instantly 818 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: went it was a nine. Yeah, it was. It was 819 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: like a nineties insult. Well, Bill and Ted's just actually 820 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: used the F word, like awefully, And that was really 821 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: hard because I wanted to watch Bill and Ted's with 822 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: the Indian and he was so totally up his alley 823 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: totally but he he's like, what does that word mean? 824 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, right here you go, and you know, like 825 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: he just does not and even with this beat and 826 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: he was like what yeah, because you know, gay is 827 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: not a bad word, Like he we have so many 828 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: gay friends, his best friend's parents, like multiples friends of 829 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: his are gay parents. So like the idea of like 830 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: calling somebody gay or somebody being insecure for being called gay, 831 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: Like he was like literally did not understand what was happening, didn't, 832 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: which is wonderful for how the world has changed. Um, 833 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: so you know, I do have to say that as 834 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: opposed to like what I started to say, is as 835 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: opposed to Bill and Ted's which just went for the 836 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: the word this is clever, right, Like this has a 837 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: layer to it that is like, oh, you have to 838 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: sort of assume, you know, his his homophobia, that he's internalized, 839 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: that maybe has feelings he's not processed come out in 840 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: this awful way, and that he's a bully worried about that. 841 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: I can see, like, you know, there's lay up levels 842 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: to it. But yes, the the ultimate point of the 843 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: Joe is completely lost on a new generation. Like it's 844 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: a good thing, thank god. Yeah, so it's yeah, did 845 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: not did not feel good, didn't age well at all? Um, Well, 846 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: can we talk about in general the retro vibe of 847 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: this entire story line like these two bullies, these three bullies, right, 848 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's straight this like Grease nineteen fifties, 849 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: three o'clock high happening like not none of this fault 850 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: reflective of nineties high school experience, but it was written 851 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: by super happy something believe how like, yeah, retro this 852 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know, wearing the bowling shirt and like the grease. 853 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like Carly Kleiner just looks like he's straight 854 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: of the fifties. And then Ethan and Joey, you know, 855 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: the doing everybody's doing like a New York sort of 856 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: like it all of in New York. He was like 857 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: everybody really, yes, everybody's from Brooks. I mean it was 858 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: like it just became this like cartoon nineteen fifties childhood 859 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: that does not square with the show we had from before. 860 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: And I think it becomes more conscious and funny later on, 861 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: but it felt very awkward to be like so different. 862 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: It was so different that then every you're looking at 863 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: all the reasons why it's different, because it was you're 864 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: just thrown into a brand new show and it's like, 865 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: oh that's not the same. Oh that's not the same. 866 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: Wait why is he from Brooklyn? Wait? What? And so 867 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: everything just felt out of place. Yeah, it was weird. Well, 868 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: then Corey asks the question, if Harley is the biggest 869 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: and baddest, then who were those two guys? And that 870 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: is a very scary thought for their future? What is 871 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: this place? And then to Peanga walks in and they 872 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: are so happy to see her because she feels like 873 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: a bit of the old world. And then they make 874 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: her walk in front of them like a human shield, 875 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty funny, and Sean is checking 876 00:46:54,040 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: out to Pananga. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I was biology. I'm 877 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: just saying we had talked about it very briefly last season, 878 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: about whether or not there was ever and Ernie and 879 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: maybe it was very good to you, and I remember 880 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: you remember kind of hating it, and I remember feeling 881 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: weird about it, like I remember because it was like, 882 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 1: I have your boobs grown that much? And I remember 883 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: being uncomfortable with Like did we talk about it? Because 884 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: I remember being uncomfortable, So I was uncomfortable too, And 885 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: I think the same reason you just mentioned was the 886 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: same reason I was uncomfortable. I didn't know. I was 887 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: not aware of the outward perception of my body having 888 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: been changed. I don't remember thinking I had changed that much. 889 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: And then when it was written in the episode, I 890 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 1: suddenly saw myself through the eyes of the people writing 891 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: for me, and I was like, Oh, I guess I 892 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: guess I've I guess I am now a look different. 893 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm more womanly and I didn't feel it until it 894 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: was written in the script. And that's what made me uncomfortable, 895 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: is that I became hyper focused on um being aware 896 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: of how I was being perceived. Yeah, and I had 897 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: already I had done an episode of Evening Ship it 898 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: was exactly this too, where it was a whole episode 899 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 1: about eleven year old girl getting a bra or whatever, 900 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: and it was I remember it being super uncomfortable in 901 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: person back then too, Like with the other the girl actors, like, 902 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: we were all so uncomfortable with having to do these 903 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: scenes about this thing in a way that like, obviously 904 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: at the point of these these beats is that it's 905 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable for kids to go through this, but for actors 906 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: to have to play that and to recognize adds like 907 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: a whole meta layer of discomfort. It's like and and 908 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: and you have to be aware of it and play 909 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: to it. And I just remember being I hated all 910 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: of this, but you know that's that was the job. Yeah, yeah, 911 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: And I mean, you know it's lost to the viewer. 912 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: We were obviously talking about it from the outside perspective 913 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: and really putting it, shining a light on it. But 914 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't think people really thought about. Oh, I wonder 915 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: what the actual feeling was on the set while they 916 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: were filming this. I wonder what those kids were thinking 917 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: and feeling. Like the fact that we were real kids 918 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: is kind of lost on the viewer until you start 919 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: having this discussion. And um, just so people don't jump 920 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: down our throats, we're not saying you shouldn't do an 921 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: episode about this because it's uncomfortable. We're just saying that 922 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: being the kids that are doing that, that are doing it, 923 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable and it's and you even though you're playing 924 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 1: a character children looking at each other talking about boots, 925 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: about your boots, and we have to play a scene 926 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: about that, And in real life we I don't remember 927 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: thinking about that yet exactly. We were not. We were 928 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: not and you were not. You know. It wasn't like 929 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: we were all at the same developmental level to being 930 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: able to maturely act it. We were sort of pressured 931 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: into acting something that we may not necessarily. Yeah, it's 932 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: just an awkward Well, I was insecure about it, and 933 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: my character was supposed to be very confident about it. 934 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: So as an insecure person about this thing, I'm supposed 935 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: to be playing this self assured, almost like I'm going 936 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: to use this power I have, and I'm like, I 937 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: don't feel powerful. It feels uncomfortable. Danielle, how old were 938 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: you when when you do this? I may have just 939 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: turned thirteen, Depending on where we were in the shooting 940 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: of this. This would have been Fall of ninety four, 941 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: so I would have just turned thirteen in May. No really, yeah, 942 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: I was born in May of one, so Fall of 943 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: eighty four, I would have turned thirteen. You know. If 944 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: we filmed this in September or something or August, I 945 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: would have been This would have been like July or August, 946 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: probably July early on. Yeah, so a few I was 947 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: thirteen in two months or something. Yeah, it's weird. It's yachts. 948 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: It's odd. I had a smoking hot tan though, because 949 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: I spent all summer at the pool. I used to tan. 950 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: I used to tan as a child. I didn't I 951 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about my future skin. And what's funny is 952 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: what's funny to me is that you look older in 953 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: your face more than anything. Yeah, and you looked more 954 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: like that. I hate to say it, but I look 955 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 1: like the AI art. Yeah, no, it was. There's something 956 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: about your face. That I was like, oh, Danielle is 957 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: getting older. That was like way more noticeable to me 958 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: than your body, and that we're making this whole thing 959 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: about your body. But I was like, no, she just 960 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 1: looks older in her face and more like sort of confident, mature, 961 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: And maybe just from the way I looked at it. 962 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,919 Speaker 1: There's the logistical aspect of the fact that she says, 963 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: what are you looking at while you're looking at her back, 964 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and then you say you're blown. I know. 965 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was weird too, You're looking at my back. 966 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: And then I turned and I asked, what are you 967 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: looking at? And Sean says, her blouse and that summer 968 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: was very good to her and to Penga says, well, 969 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: at least what I grew was real, and I rip 970 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: off your fake sideburns. And now I have to say, 971 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: from a comedic standpoint, it's a good line. That's funny. 972 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: That's what I grew was real. When she rips off 973 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: your sideburns is a funny line. I mean to get 974 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: those stupid sideburns off, but it's a funny. Haircut is awful? Really, 975 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: you asked if you were wearing a wig. I just 976 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: look watching this, I was like, oh, that is awful haircut. 977 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: So I can't say I noticed, but Will did apparently 978 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: did okay fake hair well. Topenga says that we all 979 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: have home room together because she looked it up and 980 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: the teacher is Mr Turner. Eric told Corey nothing about 981 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: this Mr Turner guy. And then a guy with a 982 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: leather jacket, sunglasses, and a helmet walks into the hall 983 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: and Corey thinks it has to be Harley Kiner, like 984 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: that's an Danny was already looking like a twenty six 985 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: year old at least with that hair and the sunglass, 986 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: holding the motorcycle helmet, like you just he might as 987 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: well just be wearing a Neon shirt that just says 988 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm cool. It's got all the stereotypical I'm cool guy 989 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: sunglasses in the helmet, and it's like, exactly, it's so 990 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: clearly like exact fantasy guy for our writing staff. So funny. Yeah, 991 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: So Corey goes up to him saying he wants to 992 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: be his friend and he'll do anything for him, and 993 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 1: then he quickly realizes that it's a Mr Jonathan Turner, 994 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: and then we go into Turner's classroom. Mr Turner says 995 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: he's there for home room English and anytime someone wants 996 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: to talk, it appears. Mr Turners in on the edge 997 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: of the desk, up whatever you want to talk. I'm 998 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: surprised he didn't start rapping, seriously exactly rash isn't cool yet. 999 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: I just got my head gum. But it's just gonna 1000 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: sit here and just talk about books and what he's got. Yes, 1001 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: they record. Tony is one of my favorite people in 1002 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: the world and a wonderful actor. It is. This is 1003 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: just so pushed. The character is just so pushed. You know, 1004 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: obviously he's not comfortable yet, but we're all just so 1005 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: he's this right character? Is it working? Yeah? Is it 1006 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: too much? Should it be more? Is that? Yeah? You 1007 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna notice X man when I see it? Like, no, 1008 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: where is that from? Yeah? Mr Turner asks Corey if 1009 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: he's the troublemaker and the one who's going to try 1010 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: to bring down the new teacher, and Corey says, no, 1011 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: that would be Sean. So in order to figure out 1012 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: who Sean is, Mr Turner walks around the class and says, 1013 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: whoever the troublemaker is will be avoiding eye contacting and bingo, bingo, 1014 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: Sean funny, it is funny. Hey, how you doing Sean? Hey? 1015 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: Sean Turner asks if anyone knows about the Odyssey, and 1016 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: as Tapanka helps a little, Mr Turner explains that. Corey 1017 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: asks who wants to read that? And then Mr Turner 1018 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: takes his X Men comic. He assigns the class to 1019 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: read the Odyssey and X Men, a comic book. He 1020 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: reads two guys. Corey says, finally a cool teacher, and 1021 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: then Corey calls him phoeney with an air ring. When 1022 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: Mr Turner tells him he will lead the classroom discussion tomorrow, 1023 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to point out you both got that wrong 1024 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: during our live show. That was one of the questions 1025 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: that was asked to you in trivia, and neither of 1026 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: you knew the answer to that. What was the question? 1027 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: The question is what is? Corey called Mr Turner and 1028 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: I gave you free and it turned out a ring 1029 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: so good, so funny. Did Tony actually have an ear 1030 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: ring in real life? Did they? Is he wearing an 1031 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 1: earring in the show? I can't remember. I can't remember 1032 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: if he has one in real life or not. Yeah, 1033 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: I think he has years I don't think, but yeah, yeah, 1034 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: it's funny. So then we're in the school hallway. Corey 1035 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: says Mr Turner is onto them, and Sean says, no, 1036 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: it was just Corey. He was onto and Corey and 1037 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: Sean realized they're going to be separated for their second 1038 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: class and they're going to be split up for the 1039 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: first time ever. We could have played that a little 1040 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: bit bigger. I think we could have gone farther, you know, 1041 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: just like I know I agree with if it was 1042 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: season three that we would have right, but at this 1043 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: point that the point of us being pulled apart is 1044 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 1: not as big of a joke. But yeah, but it 1045 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: is very funny that, like the idea was, okay, where 1046 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: do we go next? Occurred to us. So then Corey 1047 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,240 Speaker 1: runs up to his brother Eric, who's with some girls, 1048 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: and Eric pretends like he doesn't know who he is. 1049 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: And then new character alert Harley, Joey, and Frankie are 1050 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: standing by the bathroom when Corey excitedly walks up to 1051 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: say hi, and we get a call back to the 1052 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: gage joke. Yeah, well, it's been a couple of pages. 1053 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: It's the second time we're seeing that. The second it's 1054 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 1: also I just have to say, so, so far we've 1055 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 1: seen Joey and Frankie, Harley, Tony Quinn, and then we'll 1056 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: get to Marry and Staple, and everybody is so cartoony 1057 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. And these are all really good actors. There 1058 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: is not a bad actor in the bunch, and it 1059 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: is so over the top cartoony it's amazing. Yeah, I mean, 1060 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm wondering how much of that tone remains, Like I 1061 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: don't remember, Like, uh, I think Frankie and Joey kind 1062 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: of stay Frankie. But again, you can have a couple 1063 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: of cartoony characters that's okay. You can you get you know, 1064 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: that sitcomy kind of crazy where it's almost you know, 1065 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: you get Lenny and Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley, you know. There, 1066 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: you can have that kind of clinger for mash where 1067 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: it is cartoony and crazy. But when it's everybody you're introducing, 1068 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean, every new character is so over the top 1069 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: that it amazing. It's amazing. Part of the dizzy and 1070 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: factor that I had it was just like what is happening? 1071 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: Like I think by the time Marian came in is 1072 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: when I really was like, what is going on? Over 1073 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: the top. Yes, they're all phenomenally talented people, and we 1074 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: just became a cartoon. We just became like that's what 1075 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean. It was like Frankie and Joey are clearly 1076 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: like remember the cartoons with like the Big Bulldog and 1077 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: the Little One that was always done, Like, that's clearly 1078 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They're just not doing they're the human 1079 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: version of that. And that's okay if that's a guy 1080 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: with a girl's name. Yeah, but it was just and 1081 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: it's also the way he's doing it, like it's like, wow, 1082 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: it's just so over the top. Well, Corey is trying 1083 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: to avoid a beat down, and he tells Harley that 1084 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: people would like him even more if he looked out 1085 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: for a seventh grader like himself, And Harley asks his 1086 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: name and then exclaims that Corey Matthews is a hoofy name, 1087 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: you know. Uh so, yet another reference to just again 1088 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: aging like milk here. So he gives him a new 1089 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: name that exudes fear and respect, Johnny Baboon, and then 1090 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: Mr Simpleton, another new character, walks out and sends Harley 1091 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: and Corey to the principal's office for not being in class. 1092 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: And then we're at the principal's office. Corey, Mr Stimpleman, 1093 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: and Harley walk in to see the principle and it 1094 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: is Mr Penny. It was a great we should have 1095 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: happened maybe five minutes earlier, do you know what I mean? 1096 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,959 Speaker 1: Like it should have probably been like the first beat 1097 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 1: as before Turner, because at this point I was like, 1098 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: now we're going to the principle, Like it's just like 1099 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: in the world a new person, and and it was 1100 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: like how many characters are we going to have to 1101 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: get through before we have that comforting like we're still 1102 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,439 Speaker 1: the same show ye beat, And so when this came, 1103 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 1: it was like a sigh of relief, just like there's 1104 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: an anchor, I know this relationship, I know these two people. Um, 1105 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: it came a little too for me. It's like, you know, 1106 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: no offense to that actor, but just that introducing that character, 1107 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: it's like, geez, just too many, you know to get there. 1108 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: This is also this is also from something that we 1109 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: talked about I think in a previous episode though. This 1110 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: is something where this also shows the detriment of binge watching, 1111 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: because if you go right from the last episode of 1112 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: season one, which was that amazing episode of The I 1113 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Dream of Phoenie where it's kind of a more quiet 1114 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: episode of Ben and Phoenie having these great kind of 1115 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: uh scenes together, and it's very well acted and very 1116 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: earnest to this kind of craziness right away. It's even 1117 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: doubly as jarring. Um, so I think that, you know, 1118 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: if you've got a summer off before you jump back in, 1119 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: it's not nearly as bad. Yeah, quite possibly. So Mr 1120 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Simpleman says Corey got on his nerves and then Phoenie 1121 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: gives Corey a break and says get out of his face. 1122 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: But then Corey realizes his next classes with Mr Feeney, 1123 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: but he can't even say his name. So it's a 1124 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: such a Michael Jacob's read Mr Mr this is where 1125 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: he talks about the caning. Yes, yeah, so this is 1126 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: obviously because that had Remember that was big in the country. 1127 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: That was like the number one news story was Michael 1128 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Fay in the country in Singapore where he was a 1129 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: guy who was going to be cane for vandalizing cars, yeah, graffiti, 1130 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: vandalized something like that, and they was gonna be cane 1131 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: to like in the public square. So this was right around. 1132 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: We can obviously tell they were throwing that in the area. 1133 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: By the way, I am not a genius. I had 1134 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: to google the guy's name just for the record that 1135 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: it was Michael Fay. But I remember that whole caning 1136 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: thing was like a big deal, right, what a big deal? 1137 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if that would ever matter now, Like, why 1138 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: was that a thing? I don't know. Also, I wonder 1139 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: if that's part of the reason they said mr fahe r. Okay, 1140 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: we're in the school hallway. Harley catches up to Corey 1141 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: sarcastically thanks him for giving him detention all week. Harley 1142 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: asks Corey to meet him by the senior bathroom at 1143 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: three pm because he's going to kill him and punch 1144 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: the kid. Now, the whole wave. Just if you want 1145 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 1: to beat somebody up, beat him up and walk, because 1146 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: then you're already alone. Why wait, But you know, when 1147 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: this show took place in the nineteen fifties, that's what 1148 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: you did. You made up they were going to rumble 1149 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: after they had their you know, they're driving their fifties cars. Well, 1150 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: I think, actually, I think the thought processes. If it's 1151 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: after three, if it's after school hours, the school can't 1152 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: punish you for it in their own even I know 1153 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: on the in the bathroom they could. But like the 1154 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: reason people would say meet me in the parking lot 1155 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: at three o'clock is because like behind the library. Library. 1156 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Really yeah, Andy foss shout out to Andy Fosse, and 1157 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: I got a new fist fight. I lost badly. Okay, 1158 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: just for the record, thank you Andy. So we're in 1159 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: the school cafeteria. Mr Phoenie hands Mr Turner at comic 1160 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: book and Turner admits, yeah, he signed its dynamic. By 1161 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: the way, I know was a really nice because it 1162 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: was like, ah, now Turner's part of the group, and 1163 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and being questioned there's tension between the teachers. Teachers really 1164 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: different and Greek actually has a foe, like a real 1165 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 1: not just a child, you know. Um, so, yeah, I 1166 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: thought this was great. He Phoene says he knows Turner 1167 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: is the new groovy teacher, but Phoene says he wants 1168 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: the students closer to his level, and then a rivalry. 1169 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: We see the rivalry between the two of them has started, 1170 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and then the two nerds from the beginning of the 1171 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: episode walk in. Another opportunity for Lee Norris to have 1172 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: been a shining Star in this episode, but they get 1173 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: hit by doors that Corey then opens up yea, and 1174 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: they of course then say the same thing they just 1175 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: said again. Uh. Corey wishes lunch was mac and cheese 1176 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: so that when Harley punches him later he would puke 1177 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: all over him and make a your mess. Sean says 1178 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: they need Eric's help, and Eric is actually nearby eating 1179 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: lunch with the two girls we saw earlier, Marguerite Moreau, 1180 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: who was later known for tons of work including Mighty 1181 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: Ducks and Wet Hot American Summer. She was so nice, 1182 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: she was She was absolutely well wonderful actress and a 1183 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,439 Speaker 1: very nice person. That's what I remember most about her. Well, 1184 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: so Sean goes over to Eric and the girls. They're 1185 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,160 Speaker 1: flirt with him too. I know Sean's got game apparent 1186 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: has started to become the girl magnet yep, were you 1187 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: teen magazine guy by this point by season two? Had 1188 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 1: it started yet? I must have been right? It must 1189 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: like I'm wondering if they're playing into that now, because 1190 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we've got to break out, you know, 1191 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: teen idol. Let's write to that question, because you went 1192 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: right to girls now, I mean, you're instantly like they're 1193 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 1: starting to switch. This is where Eric and Sean starts 1194 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 1: to switch, where all of a sudden, it's you're you're 1195 01:04:53,520 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a girl crazy right, so uh, Sean says at three o'clock, 1196 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Eric actually won't have a brother if he doesn't help. 1197 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Eric pretends to drink water at the water fountain, will 1198 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: talking to Corey, uh slightly helping him get out of 1199 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: trouble by going to the nurses station. Yeah, pretended to 1200 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 1: be sick. Go to the nurse station and then wait 1201 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: for mom and dad to pick you home or pick 1202 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: you up, or you could just fight the guy if 1203 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to look like a coward. And then 1204 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 1: Harley furiously walks into the lunchroom and asks who took 1205 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: the last piece of chicken, which Corey happens to be holding, 1206 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: so he immediately drops it. And then Eric walks away 1207 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: and says, do not attempt to recontact me. And I 1208 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: thought Ben's line of how did you how did you 1209 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: do this? You know, you ruined this in a day, 1210 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: and he's like, it didn't take me the whole day, 1211 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: how badly in a day? It didn't take me the 1212 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: whole day. Take me the whole day that was so 1213 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: funny and absolutely great beat. Yeah. Yeah, this is a 1214 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: really cute This was a really cute brother moment. I 1215 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Another episode I have to say where I 1216 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: don't like particularly like the episode. But again Ben is 1217 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, Ben is really good, and especially this 1218 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: scene he's dropping the chicken out of his hand. He's 1219 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: hitting some beats that are very very funny. Yeah. And 1220 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: then we're in the nurse's office. Corey sits next to 1221 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: the two nerds and they are comparing their injuries. They 1222 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 1: say they're going to sit in this nurse's office every 1223 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: day to get picked up and stay safe. Corey asks 1224 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: if they think other kids will call them cowards and 1225 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: they don't care. Corey does care. He says he is 1226 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: not going to fake an injury. He's going to go 1227 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 1: get a real one. Would you guys have cared? Yes? 1228 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: If if people like would you have wanted to take 1229 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: the easy like, would you guys have got I mean, 1230 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,959 Speaker 1: Will said he just got into a fight in high school. 1231 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: You go to the fight. You go to the fight. 1232 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 1: There's sometimes if a bully is standing in front of you, 1233 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: the only thing you can do is punch him in 1234 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: the nose. You might lose, but you're gonna fight. That's 1235 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: just I don't know if that's the way just the 1236 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: way I was raised. You never start a fight, but 1237 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: if you can finish it, you do. And that's that's 1238 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: really gotten fights in high school, like grade school. I 1239 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 1: remember are six people in your high school you said, 1240 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, this was my I mean, this 1241 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: was my I was already working, like I don't know, 1242 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't all in with But no. Sometimes again, what 1243 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: do they say that the rider I'm sure you know 1244 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the quote better than I. What is it? The uh 1245 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: a hero dies, but once a coward dies, a thousand 1246 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: deaths something like that, because it's because you you know, 1247 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna keep dying inside if you don't stand up 1248 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: for yourself. So that was very real to me, and 1249 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: that resonated to me where it's like, this is going 1250 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 1: to determine your your life now for the rest of 1251 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: your life, because there's people that were bullied that didn't 1252 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 1: stand up that are now in their forties that look 1253 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 1: back at that like that changed my life. Yeah, But 1254 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: there's also there's also the insinuation that it's sort of 1255 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of blaming the victim with these guys right, 1256 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: like they're because they're being nerdy, like they want to 1257 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: continue being coward, Like they shouldn't be in this position 1258 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: to begin with. There should not be situations. Not some 1259 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:55,479 Speaker 1: giant older kid is a situations like that all the time. 1260 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's there shouldn't be but but but 1261 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need to go to a fight in 1262 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: order to not be a coward. You can also find 1263 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: other ways of managing a situation. And of course I 1264 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to for of course this show is again 1265 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 1: in this retro mode of like, you know, there's the 1266 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: nerds and they're just gonna be weekly and they're going 1267 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 1: to take the easy ways before being nerds was cool 1268 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: and and uh yeah, no, I agree, there's obviously other 1269 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: ways to go about it, but they're trying to make 1270 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 1: it as cartoony again cartoony possible one avenue or the 1271 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: other avenue, And we're making it as blatantly cartoony as 1272 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 1: we possibly can. I'd just like to shout out to 1273 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the nerd what would be called Nerd number two because 1274 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I referred to call refused to call him lemkey, but 1275 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: he was pretty funny. I thought with the whole and 1276 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: I've got ASTHM and he's like, oh yeah, you win, 1277 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Like he that was he had some funny beats as 1278 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: an actor. I thought he had some funny beats, but 1279 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: with what they were given. Well. It is now three 1280 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 1: pm in the school hallway and Mr Turner sees Corey 1281 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: sitting there. Corey asks if the guy in the Odyssey 1282 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: gets home alive, and Turner says he does after facing 1283 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: few obstacles, and then he's off for the day. He 1284 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 1: starts to leave. Sean runs over to support Corey, but 1285 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: then a girl walks by and he leaves with her 1286 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 1: immediately again Sean's got game. And then Corey is about 1287 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,799 Speaker 1: to leave himself at three oh five, but then Harley 1288 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: opens the bathroom door and is ready to brawl Corey 1289 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 1: in the whole way again like there is still in 1290 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: the schools, Like what the hell's the point still there? Yeah? Yeah, 1291 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,560 Speaker 1: they didn't have parking lot set apparently, so Corey is 1292 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: about to leave. Corey says he would rather be dead 1293 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 1: than the school coward for the next six years, so 1294 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: he's ready to get beat up. So we mentioned that 1295 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: we would be in the school for six more years. 1296 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,480 Speaker 1: But then we're only in the school for four but anyway, 1297 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: uh so he's ready to get beat up, and then 1298 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Harley gets into position, but then Eric jumps over the 1299 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: law man. I thought it was so cool, and I 1300 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 1: remember jumping over the wall being like, yeah, this is 1301 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: this is awesome. That's you undercut it with a joke 1302 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: right away. It was like, as it was happening, I 1303 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh god, this feels really lazy, and I 1304 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh, of course Will is going to save it. Yeah, 1305 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 1: it was. It was a fun beat. I remember that. 1306 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself like, oh, they're gonna keep 1307 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 1: me in the show. Like essentially, they're working Eric into 1308 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the show where he's still be a matter in the 1309 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 1: show because again we've now Lee's gone and we don't 1310 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 1: know he was coming. Who's going what's going to happen 1311 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: right now? They're going in a bunch of new characters. 1312 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 1: My oh my god. My dad was convinced that that um, 1313 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 1: Harley was going to become the new Fanzie and Eric 1314 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: was slowly going to be taken off the show. He 1315 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: was convinced. Oh my my dad was He's like, you 1316 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 1: got it, you got it, you got you think that's 1317 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: going to happen. You know. I think he called my 1318 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: agent like all that kind of stuff, and I was like, 1319 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, it's gonna be fine, It's gonna 1320 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 1: be fine. Um. But yeah, they were they thought they 1321 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 1: were doing that whole new dynamic and that was gonna 1322 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 1: be it. So yeah, strange. Wow, Well, Eric is going 1323 01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 1: to defend Corey. He jumps in front of Harley and 1324 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 1: he only admits that Corey is his brother and you 1325 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: guys work together, which is very cute. Harley begins to 1326 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: push Eric, but Mr Turner appears and stops the confrontation. 1327 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: Harley asks who he is, not knowing that Mr. Turner 1328 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: is a new teacher, but he learns quickly. Mr Turner 1329 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: plays the cool guy and asks Harley not to kill 1330 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: his students, and Harley realizes he couldn't take Mr Turner, 1331 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 1: so he leaves that's I know, it's really cute. Was 1332 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 1: that could I thank you? Nah? I could have taken 1333 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: the kid though. It is crazy how much contemporaries though, Yeah, 1334 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:35,680 Speaker 1: like age wise, it's mind yeah, of course. Uh So 1335 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,719 Speaker 1: Corey thinks Mr Turner and then he thinks his brother Eric, 1336 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: who in turn pretends not to know him again, which 1337 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 1: again I thought that was all very cute. Listen, I 1338 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: was there for you when I need when you needed me. 1339 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: But we're back to status quell and I'll talk to 1340 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 1: me again. Uh. And then Corey tells Sean he can 1341 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: get out of the locker now, which I thought, how 1342 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 1: do we know he's in the locker. I didn't know 1343 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: he was in the locker, and and Corey did not 1344 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,639 Speaker 1: see him go into the locker, like I just went 1345 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: off camera. So yeah, that was weird. I exactly was like, 1346 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 1: what it's also, I'm sorry to point this out kind 1347 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,080 Speaker 1: of weirdly, but you have to imagine she's Eric's age 1348 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 1: because they were having lunch, so she's in the locker 1349 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: with the seventh grader Junior high. A little strange, saying 1350 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 1: little odd, little odd. Again. I guess the idea is 1351 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 1: that if you're in the same school, and that's why, truthfully, 1352 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: that's why schools are set up that way, is so 1353 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: that adult ish style teens are not in school with 1354 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: people who are supposed to be twelve or who are twelve. 1355 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: Someone who's seventeen in a locker with somebody who's twelve 1356 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: or thirteen is a little creepy, I just think, but 1357 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's again a lot of it maybe 1358 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: more than a creepy, but again I think so much 1359 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: of it was like, suspend your disbelief about what's going 1360 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: on here. Just even eighteen year old actors us and 1361 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 1: we don't have to deal with kid hours. That's not 1362 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 1: just that, but also let's get to as many laughs 1363 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: as possible and also appeal to maybe what was an 1364 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 1: ABC mandate of aging us up that they wanted a 1365 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 1: high school show, but we started off being eleven, and 1366 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: so how do you go from the govern production I 1367 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: think it's purely production concerns. They were they were sick 1368 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: and tired of not having the hours and not having 1369 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: the time and having to deal with more teachers and 1370 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: more kids. So it was like, let's cut down the 1371 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: kid cast. So essentially at this point was you, me 1372 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 1: and Ben. That was it for the That was it, 1373 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Like we would didn't try again with anybody. Know, everybody 1374 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: else was an eighteen plus, and it was like so 1375 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: they could have they could work extra hours, they didn't 1376 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 1: have to have teachers and didn't have the social workers, 1377 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 1: didn't have to have parents, so like everybody was older. 1378 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how old were Blake and Ethan in your 1379 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: life at this point my age or older? Actually, they 1380 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: might have been older the Baker, I think, and they 1381 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 1: might have been older than me by this point, and 1382 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Danny must have been like at least yeah, So it 1383 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 1: was yeah. No. I also think you could argue that 1384 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 1: they made it as cartoony as possible because they're in 1385 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 1: this new mythical high school world and it just the 1386 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,040 Speaker 1: giant cartoon. Because I'd like to think, and again, I 1387 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: haven't seen the show in years. Ridy you've never seen it. Daniel, 1388 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,759 Speaker 1: you haven't seen in years. I think it grounds itself, 1389 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,759 Speaker 1: I hope. So I think I think the out Yeah, 1390 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 1: I think so too. So maybe it's the first day 1391 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: is supposed to be this crazy look and it's supposed 1392 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 1: to give us this feeling yes, comfortable, Yeah, because I 1393 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: don't recall it being this outlandishly off the wall with 1394 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: teachers like Marion coming in, Like I I think this 1395 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: was a one off. I'm hoping this was a one 1396 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 1: off and it's gonna it's gonna come back down to earth, 1397 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: we can hope. So the the locker is opened and 1398 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: Corey sees that Sean is in there, with a girl, 1399 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and he says they're big lockers in high school, which 1400 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: it is very funny, and then we get into our 1401 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 1: end credits and we wrap up the episode. In the 1402 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: Matthews living room, Corey walks in, saying his brother is Eric, 1403 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: the great one Matthews. Eric says an older kid was 1404 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 1: picking on Corey and he hates it when people do that, 1405 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: and then he himself picks on Corey and grabs the about. 1406 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Morgan grabs the remote next and takes full control of 1407 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: the TV. The family falls into place. She yells, everybody 1408 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,719 Speaker 1: stopped talking. I'm watching TV. And then now that's power, 1409 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: Morgan says. And we end the episode, and that was 1410 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 1: a big laugh for Indie. She's in control. He's just 1411 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: like ye still like yeah, it's really funny, that's great. 1412 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: And he was definitely weirded out by me being in 1413 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 1: the locker with a girl. Oh really, I don't I 1414 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 1: just don't know how we're going to deal with this 1415 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 1: now that I'm gonna be making out. I started prepping 1416 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,679 Speaker 1: him out. I was like, yeah, that's gonna be happening 1417 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,759 Speaker 1: a lot more. But really, yeah, is he still enjoying 1418 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,640 Speaker 1: watching it? Yeah? I mean he definitely. Like, I don't know, 1419 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: the second season is gonna be interesting. I think it's 1420 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna be really different. I think this episode felt off, 1421 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, like basically after the first scene, I don't 1422 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: think he was comfortable again until now were we Like 1423 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: he was leaving the house made and leaving the regular 1424 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: characters made him uncomfortable. I think Phoeney as a principal 1425 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: was cool. He liked that. But yeah, he's very much 1426 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: still you know, he's still in the Little Kids Well 1427 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,720 Speaker 1: season as his favorite character of Morgan. I have bad 1428 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: news for him. Oh jeez. So the next episode we 1429 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: are going to recap is season two, episode two, pairing Off, 1430 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: which already sounds like bad news for India as well. 1431 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but pairing Off sounds 1432 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: like it's someone's kissing someone and it originally aired September. 1433 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 1: And there we go, guys, I'm super uncomfy. I hope 1434 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: I hope we get I hope we get. Come for 1435 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: your later. I'm thinking the next episode that pairing Off 1436 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 1: is the one with the second one with Marguerite Moreau, 1437 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 1: and it's not going to be comfy. Oh no, yeah, 1438 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 1: if memory serves, there's some some conversations to have with 1439 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, we're I really did. I got the chills. 1440 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 1: We're settling back down here. Is it time to bring 1441 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: that therapist on yet? Are we to do that? Yeah, 1442 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that's kind of a but I'm uncomfortable even with the 1443 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: classroom facing the opposite direction, and I'm like, no, no, 1444 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: this isn't right. This isn't right. And I worked in 1445 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: that classroom, like is this the way the classroom was 1446 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 1: all season like? But I'm just like, no, no, that's okay, right, 1447 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 1: hate do this because I know that producer husband Jensen 1448 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 1: carp Um does the bulk of the reading and then 1449 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 1: and then sends it out to us. But I'd be 1450 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,640 Speaker 1: really curious if everybody else felt as uncomfortable by watching this. 1451 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Please send us your emails, Yeah, because I'm curious if 1452 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,679 Speaker 1: they're like, no, it didn't bother me at all. There's 1453 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 1: no that's uncomfortable. They've watched it a million times. It's like, 1454 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're watching if people are going in 1455 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 1: order like us, Yeah, I am curious. I think that 1456 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: there is people I liked it, Tara liked it, Okay. 1457 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,000 Speaker 1: I think there are people who really gravitate towards first 1458 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 1: season point it's World, and then there are people who 1459 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: really like later season Boy MEAs World, you know, And 1460 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 1: I think that we're just We're just kind of in 1461 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 1: the in between right now. I'm hoping we get more 1462 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 1: comfort well. But I have to say I always thought 1463 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 1: first season a boy Meets World in my memory, having 1464 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 1: not seen it, I always thought the first season was 1465 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,679 Speaker 1: pretty bad too. That was my assumption. So we didn't 1466 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,720 Speaker 1: know what our show was and that we became a 1467 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,280 Speaker 1: better show, and that is completely reversed right now. I 1468 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 1: think the first season was spectacular. I love it for 1469 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 1: all the you know, little kid coziness of it, and 1470 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: I am terrified about what's to come. I think we 1471 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta chalk this up to It was a 1472 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 1: whole different experience for us. It was a whole different 1473 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: experience for our crew. We had new producers. We're gonna 1474 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna fall into it again. We're gonna find ourselves, 1475 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna find our rhythm, and this was just a 1476 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 1: jarring one off. I think ye were forward like that 1477 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 1: will be fine. Yeah it was. There's definitely some growing 1478 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: pains um and that show we should recap. Uh just 1479 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 1: so you guys know so Tara said she liked it, 1480 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:57,720 Speaker 1: husband Jensen producer Jensen Carp was completely jarred, like just 1481 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: absolutely thrown off, had no idea what was goinging on. 1482 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 1: Felt the same way we did. Very uncomfortable and um uh. 1483 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 1: Jackie says it was jarring as well. So there we are. Anyway, 1484 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: it was nice recapping with you guys, will sign us off. 1485 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,560 Speaker 1: We love you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is 1486 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,799 Speaker 1: an I heart podcast produced and hosted by Daniel Fishel Wilford, 1487 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 1: l and Ryder Strong executive producers, Jensen Carp and Amy 1488 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 1: Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor, 1489 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: Tara sup Box producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets 1490 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by 1491 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Morton of Typhoon and you can follow us on 1492 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Instagram at Pod Meets World Show or email us at 1493 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,480 Speaker 1: Pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com