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Speaker 1: Comedy Off Broadway in Lexington. Welcome's Michael Pallisak May seventeenth

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, May the seventh. I

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Speaker 4: am Matt Jones here on another beautiful day in Lexington, Kentucky.

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Speaker 5: Been a great set of spring weather, isn't it?

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Speaker 6: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 4: to have lunch, enjoy it, watch the show we'll be

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Speaker 4: here tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: We will not be here for Wednesday. We're gonna be

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Speaker 5: at Valhalla tomorrow. How about that run?

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Speaker 6: I think the Alaskas to go out and play some

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Speaker 6: Should I bring my clubs?

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Speaker 4: No, First of all, they don't let anybody play right

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Speaker 4: now unless you're in it, because they don't want you

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Speaker 4: to ruin the course, and that would go triple for

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Speaker 4: you because you're awful.

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Speaker 5: I took it.

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Speaker 6: I played at one time and they had a six

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Speaker 6: two over par limit. If you were two over part

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Speaker 6: you had to pick your ball up whether you hold

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Speaker 6: out or not.

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Speaker 5: So did you finish any home?

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Speaker 6: I think I finished one. I think I finished one.

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Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, I played there. I've played there a bunch.

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Speaker 4: My favorite time playing is I played with Terry miners,

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Speaker 4: Tom Leach and Mike Pratt.

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Speaker 6: Oh what a great foursome.

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Speaker 5: That was a lot of fun. That was. That was

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Speaker 5: early in my in my career. Yeah, and uh.

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Speaker 6: You know you walk out there, Yes, with a caddy.

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Speaker 4: You walk with the caddy and uh at the end

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Speaker 4: they were kind of carrying our group of eighteen. There

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Speaker 4: was a lot of that's a lot of walking for

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Speaker 4: that's a lot of walking.

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Speaker 5: I love it though. I love to walk out there, like.

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Speaker 4: Having the having the caddy and you know, when you

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Speaker 4: don't have to carry your bag and you can walk,

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Speaker 4: It's like you can see why people found golf pleasant.

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Speaker 5: Back in the day because it's it's a beautiful walk.

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Speaker 6: The one thing I remember is that if you don't

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Speaker 6: hit it in the fairway, the grass was like eight

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Speaker 6: inches high. It's not in the fairway, you know.

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Speaker 5: For the PGA.

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Speaker 4: Tournament, which is next week, Vaha is a pretty easy course,

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Speaker 4: like they'll score really well there, but they've made it

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Speaker 4: harder than it was the last time. So it's a

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Speaker 4: good tournament for the PGA because they'll make a lot

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Speaker 4: of birdies.

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Speaker 5: But for the average golfer, it's brute.

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Speaker 6: Oh you know hitting the fair you're hitting.

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Speaker 5: There so long.

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Speaker 6: Like did they move the tea boxes back because now

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Speaker 6: they tried to make it harder.

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Speaker 4: They always do that, Yeah, but it's just I mean

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Speaker 4: they've changed, you know, they've they changed the I don't

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Speaker 4: know what what it's called, but chanting.

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Speaker 5: You know, there are different kinds of grass, you know.

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Speaker 4: They they had they they had maybe blue grass, and

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Speaker 4: they changed it to something else. But they changed it

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Speaker 4: to where it was really hard for them to keep

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Speaker 4: up because they had a grass. I think that was

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Speaker 4: not the kind of grass Kentucky's used to snoop dogg grass.

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Speaker 5: Stop.

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Speaker 4: Let me just tell Jeff Rouss over here to calm down.

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Speaker 4: Chuh the the I mean just trying to make joke

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Speaker 4: after joke that they they just had, like point being

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Speaker 4: it's now easier for them to maintain and it's kept

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Speaker 4: the course in better shape.

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Speaker 6: But you still think the pros will still score.

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Speaker 4: They'll score, I mean, they'll crush it because it's but

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Speaker 4: it was really good at the Ryder Cup because you

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Speaker 4: could make a lot of birdies and take chances. So

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Speaker 4: we'll see it's gonna be Tiger's gonna be there.

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Speaker 6: He'll be there tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: No, Tiger's gonna be in the golf tournament nice, which

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Speaker 4: is exciting. And the PGA decided to invite the best

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Speaker 4: the PGA this year will have the best field of

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Speaker 4: any golf tournament in the world, because it'll be like

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Speaker 4: the one tournament that takes all the best PGA guys

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Speaker 4: the same turn.

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Speaker 6: Is this the third time the PGA has been there.

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Speaker 4: They were here, Yeah, I think you're right. They were

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Speaker 4: here many years ago. Mark Brooks won. That was a

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Speaker 4: long time. No, it's the fourth time. Fourth time Mark

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Speaker 4: Brooks won here. Tiger won here. Yes, Rory won here,

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Speaker 4: so this would be the fourth Cup. And then they

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Speaker 6: Events, which is awesome for our state man to have

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Speaker 6: that coming right here in our backyard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it should be a lot of fun and

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Speaker 5: you know, get huge crowds.

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Speaker 4: And you know when I told Mario Tiger was here,

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Speaker 4: it's like it's just different with him, even though he

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Speaker 4: has no chance to win, just knowing Tiger is here

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Speaker 4: will make it so much cool.

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Speaker 6: Well, you and I were talking about it after we

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Speaker 6: do our show next week. Walk around. I want to

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Speaker 6: walk around with Tiger. He's the one I want to

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Speaker 6: see walk around, whether he's hitting birdies or not. I

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Speaker 4: The last time it was here, he didn't even play.

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Speaker 4: He just came and did a practice round. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: we followed him around the practice and.

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Speaker 6: Somehow you got in side the ropes to follow him

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Speaker 4: Now, Shannon, you are you excited? Have you ever been

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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, So next week when we do the show

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Speaker 5: Time out there with all the pro golfers. Are are

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Speaker 3: I'm not a golfer at all.

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Speaker 2: I have nothing in common with anybody out there, but

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Speaker 7: It should be a lot of fun. First time. Well

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Speaker 5: It's a cool scene. Yeah, Like it's a cool scene.

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Speaker 5: You got the media.

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Speaker 4: One of the things I like is the media is from

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Speaker 4: all over the world, right, so like there are people

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Speaker 4: here from you know, all these countries. They're all in Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: You know that they get big crowds. Hopefully the weather

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Speaker 4: And we've never we did our show there one time,

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Speaker 4: didn't we We did our show there, but for it

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Speaker 5: A practice round, practice round.

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Speaker 4: Now we get to do our show during the actual tournament,

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Speaker 4: which we've never done before.

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Speaker 6: We did it in the practice round in that media

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Speaker 5: John Feinstein was on that was one of those.

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Speaker 6: But it was cool after the show, Like you said,

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Speaker 4: Until they were about to kick me out because I

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Speaker 6: Look one of the security guys recognized you and knew

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Speaker 4: Like no, So we were falling Tiger and they have

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Speaker 4: a rule that only like forty media members get to

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Speaker 4: Shannon wear this vest and they can get inside the ropes. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you have your press credential, but you have to

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Speaker 4: have a vest to be inside the ropes. So I

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Speaker 4: I'm like why not? And they go, I said, there

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Speaker 5: So I just walked inside.

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Speaker 2: The rope without a vest.

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Speaker 4: But I had a media pass, so most people would

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Speaker 5: But then I started seeing people were eyeing me. Yeah, right, And.

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Speaker 4: Finally we got to one of those holes, like twelve

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Speaker 4: about you on the walkie talkie. Yeah, and they're about

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Speaker 4: so I just said to Ryan.

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Speaker 5: So we left and that was that. So but you

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Speaker 6: Or three holes before they finally said that to you.

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Speaker 4: I got to stand like, right now, you have a

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Speaker 4: great picture from me to you to Tigers is about

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Speaker 4: to hit a shot.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, it should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: We will be out there tomorrow and it should be good, cool,

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Speaker 4: all right, So we have a couple of things today.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna obviously talk basketball. I've given everyone on this

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Speaker 4: show today a project. They have to rank one through

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Speaker 4: five the worst states in America.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the worst state.

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Speaker 6: We had homework last night.

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Speaker 4: Mario is participating too. He's going to come on the radio.

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Speaker 4: We're going to rank one through five of our worst dates.

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Speaker 4: Did you do your homework?

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Speaker 5: Shit?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I got it right here in front of all right.

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Speaker 4: So we will get to that in just a second, right,

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Speaker 4: But the first thing I want to talk about is

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Speaker 4: the guest host.

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right, So.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be gone from Memorial Day to the

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Speaker 4: first of August. That's basically ten weeks, all right, and

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Speaker 4: we kind of now have a schedule Mondays, Mondays with

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Speaker 4: Myron Metcalf nice.

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Speaker 5: So it'll be Monday, it'll be Myron and you guys perfect.

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Speaker 5: You excited about that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we will be able to do it. No, talk

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Speaker 4: to him yesterday. He's looking forward to awesome Wednesdays. Wednesdays

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Speaker 4: are Tom Hart, okay, all right, yeah, so Wednesdays will

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Speaker 4: be Tom Hart and you.

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Speaker 6: Guys perfect, We can handle that.

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Speaker 4: Tuesdays and Thursdays are just going to be you all,

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Speaker 4: uh huh. So on Thursdays Billy will join you and

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Speaker 4: on some Tuesdays.

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Speaker 5: Mario will nice.

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Speaker 4: All right, So that leaves Friday, and Friday is gonna

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Speaker 4: be the guest host day. So we're gonna have ten

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Speaker 7: Who suggested several people? Did you actually read.

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Speaker 6: That's why it would be a good show that right there. Company.

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Speaker 6: Cal Perry. Maybe he's free.

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Speaker 4: If I've nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven

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Speaker 5: No, it's also daunting if to host the show.

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Speaker 4: You know, I like a dude, and I think a

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Speaker 4: du is a good player, but a dude's like a

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Speaker 4: complimentary piece, is right. He a complimentary piece, and you know,

450
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Speaker 4: would have it would have been nice to have him.

451
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Speaker 4: But they're gonna succeed or not down there. I think

452
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Speaker 4: in some ways they have the exact same issue we do,

453
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Speaker 4: which is due you have a star.

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Speaker 5: John L.

455
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Speaker 4: Davis is probably gonna be really good for them, But

456
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Speaker 4: I still think they need one more dude. And I

457
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Speaker 4: kind of.

458
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Speaker 5: Think that's how we are too. We need one more dude.

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Speaker 6: And without being mean, AD is not a dude.

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Speaker 5: AD is not the dude. No, the dude. You're also

461
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Speaker 5: going to have a do and a do.

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Speaker 4: Have you noticed that they're gonna have a do and

463
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Speaker 4: a do at the same time.

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Speaker 6: And still looking for a dude.

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Speaker 4: And they are still looking for a dude. Now for us,

466
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Speaker 4: I think we we got to find a guy. Like

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Speaker 4: I think that's where we are. We got to find

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Speaker 4: a guy, whether it's Jackson Robinson or someone else.

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Speaker 5: We need one more.

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Speaker 4: We need a big time score and not just a

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Speaker 4: big time shooter. We need a guy who can get

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Speaker 4: to the basket score. And you know, I think we

473
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Speaker 4: have maybe two choices out there, and we need one

474
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Speaker 4: of them to hit Jackson Robinson and then the chas

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Speaker 4: Lanier guy from North Florida.

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Speaker 6: Okay, everybody asked me all the time, who's the second

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Speaker 6: guy if Robinson decides to stay in the graft, who's

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Speaker 6: the other guy Matt keeps talking about?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean they they're definitely interested in the chas Lanier.

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Speaker 4: I think they also, you know, they've talked to the

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Speaker 4: Wuga Poplar guy from Miami. But they got a lot

483
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Speaker 4: banking on Jackson Robinson. I mean, if he decides to

484
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Speaker 4: stay in the draft, that'll hurt us. I mean, I

485
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Speaker 4: think I think they they built this entire team around

486
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Speaker 4: the viewpoint that Jackson Robinson would be the centerpiece, and

487
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Speaker 4: they have one or two other guys. I think they

488
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Speaker 4: could add that they want to see whether they get

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Speaker 4: him or not. Because Pope looks at this different than

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Speaker 4: any other coach I've talked to. Now, I'm sure there

491
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Speaker 4: are other coaches that do it, but I think he

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Speaker 4: has a player, for instance, that he says, if I

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Speaker 4: have Jackson Robinson, that guy's a perfect piece. If I

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Speaker 4: don't get Jackson Robinson, he doesn't really fit in, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think he looks at it like and so let's

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Speaker 4: say he gets chas Lanier, then I think he goes

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Speaker 4: that guy was gonna get with Jackson Robinson, he's probably

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Speaker 4: not who I want.

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Speaker 5: I want this guy at this point.

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Speaker 4: So when you heard him say on the show, they're

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Speaker 4: waiting to see who stays in the draft and then

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Speaker 4: they'll go from there, I think he's that's exactly what

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Speaker 4: he's doing.

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Speaker 5: So this is just my opinion.

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Speaker 4: I think in their minds they have and again this

507
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Speaker 4: is not like official, but this is just the sense

508
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Speaker 4: I get. Jackson Robinson is who they want. If that

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Speaker 4: doesn't happen, they'd love to get either Chas Lanier or

510
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Speaker 4: Wuga Poplar And depending on which of those three they get,

511
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Speaker 4: there's one or two other guys that'll add But they

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Speaker 4: want to wait and see which of those three they.

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Speaker 6: Get fill out the roster after they to find out

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Speaker 6: which one of those three guys are gonna get.

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Speaker 4: Because I think they have their core eight with one hole,

516
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Speaker 4: which is the last point. Yeah, I think they believe.

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Speaker 4: They believe Butler. That's right, the kid from San Diego State,

518
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 4: right lamon Butler. They believe he's a lot better than

519
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Speaker 4: people act like like they believe he's They they believe

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Speaker 4: that the kid from Drexel is really good. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm told they believe Garrison will be a first round

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Speaker 4: pick one day and he's coming.

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Speaker 6: Off the midge.

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Speaker 4: But the one I keep hearing is by the end

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Speaker 4: of the year, Colin Chandler.

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Speaker 5: Will be real.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exciting.

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Speaker 5: By the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: They think they think that, but they I think the

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Speaker 4: staff genuinely believes people are sleeping on Lamont Butler and

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Speaker 4: Colin Chandler, that those are two guys that they think

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Speaker 4: are a lot better than maybe the general public and

533
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Speaker 4: our fan base.

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Speaker 6: Thing nice.

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Speaker 4: Sof I'm nine eighty seven, we'll take your call. Be

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Speaker 4: right back. It's Kentucky Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: TJ Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them.

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Speaker 2: Pay now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, Tuck you Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: You got a guy here who's from Flat Lick, Kentucky,

542
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Speaker 4: which is in Knox County, which led to us talking

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Speaker 4: about little uh uh tiny towns in Bell County. They

544
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Speaker 4: you got some great names, right, you got Kettle Island,

545
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Speaker 4: you got you got RJ.

546
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Speaker 5: Right, you got the right Fork of Straight Creek.

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Speaker 6: That's the name of a community.

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Speaker 4: Yep, right the right fork of straight Creek. And I

549
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Speaker 4: just mentioned that to my parents the other day. I said,

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Speaker 4: that's a really weird name of something, because if it's

551
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Speaker 4: a straight creek, you wouldn't think it had a fork,

552
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Speaker 4: but it does. And there is no left.

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Speaker 6: Fork of straight Creek, but there's a right fork.

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Speaker 5: There's Loan Jack.

555
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Speaker 6: Loan Jack.

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Speaker 5: Yep. Uh.

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Speaker 6: You were telling me about RJ.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to go to I'm telling you, all of

559
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Speaker 4: you in Kentucky, if anyone ever suggests you go to RJ,

560
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Speaker 4: take an escort.

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Speaker 6: With I ain't going, period. That's what you just said.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to go. I mean, don't go unless

563
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Speaker 5: you know somebody.

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Speaker 6: So how big is it?

565
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Speaker 5: A few hundred people maybe maybe not even that many.

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Speaker 6: And it's that scary of a town.

567
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Speaker 5: It's not a town. It's like a holler. But I'm

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Speaker 5: just saying, it's every everything odd.

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Speaker 4: You tell me there's an odd story out of out

570
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: of Bell County, seventy five percent.

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Speaker 5: Chance it's our J.

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Speaker 4: If I'm nine two eight h twenty two eighty seven

573
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Speaker 4: one person rights map, I have a buddy who won't

574
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: who won't get off talking about cal Perry.

575
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Speaker 5: He keeps saying we were wrong to get rid of him.

576
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Speaker 5: What do you say? What should I say to it?

577
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Speaker 4: If you're still talking about how we should have kept

578
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Speaker 4: cal Perry, you're not a UK fan.

579
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Speaker 5: He left, he left. We didn't tell him to leave.

580
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 5: He left.

581
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 4: He tried to play a card and the card ended

582
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Speaker 4: up not working. He thought he was smarter than you

583
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: at the end, and he tried to pull something to

584
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Speaker 4: try to get the practice facility bought and try to

585
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Speaker 4: get stuff done. And you know what, UK called his

586
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: bluff and he decided to leave. That's on him. So

587
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: I have no but like you can't cry for spilled milk.

588
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 4: You know, Let's say you and your girlfriend break up

589
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 4: after two months. Man, if you're still crying about her,

590
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: that's on you. You gotta you gotta keep moving. And so

591
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: when I see Kentucky fans who still talk about and

592
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 4: I see him on social media, you get their losers.

593
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: If you're still talking about him, he ain't coming back.

594
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: This is not like he's not coming back. So you

595
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: just need either the need to move forward or not.

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Speaker 6: I've had to save conversation with people and I tell him, look,

597
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Speaker 6: have you been happy with the way things have gone

598
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 6: the last couple of years, because we were gonna get

599
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Speaker 6: a lot of the same if he had stayed.

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Speaker 4: But whether we let's say he goes and wins a

601
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Speaker 4: national championship, which he's not going to, but let's say

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Speaker 4: he does, okay it it wasn't happening here.

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Speaker 6: No, it's gonna be a lot of the same.

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00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: It wasn't gonna happen here. So like the there are,

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00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: there's not a lot. I give our fan base credit.

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00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 4: I'd say collectively, we've moved on really really well. I agree,

607
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Speaker 4: But for the ones that haven't, you're being a loser

608
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 4: if you're still talking about if you're still talking about

609
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: the woman that left you. And imagine you were married

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Speaker 4: to somebody and they decided to leave you for another

611
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Speaker 4: person and at and as at their wedding they get

612
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Speaker 4: up and go, I should have divorced that other person

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Speaker 4: five years ago, and you're still crying about him when

614
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Speaker 4: they said they should have divorced you five years ago,

615
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: Then you are a loser at that point.

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Speaker 6: That's the most telling thing of the whole thing. When

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Speaker 6: he said he should have taken that UCLA, and.

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Speaker 4: He's right, he should have, and so in that respect,

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Speaker 4: I agree with him. But you can't sit there and

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Speaker 4: cry for a person that says I should have left

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Speaker 4: you five years ago.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I wonder how he would We would have viewed him

624
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Speaker 6: different if he had left at the end of the

625
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen season, we probably would.

626
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Speaker 5: He would have been a hero.

627
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think people would have been mad at Mitch for

629
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 4: letting him go. But that's why I have sympathy for

630
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 4: Mitch giving him that deal. Mitch could not have let

631
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Speaker 4: him walk to UCLA, No, but if he did, he

632
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: would come back a conquer.

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Speaker 5: He won't mean to be like Wick. Right.

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Speaker 4: Like Rick left, and until he went to Louisville, everybody

635
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: still loved him.

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00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. I think his legacy would have

637
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 6: been viewed a lot differently if he'd left at that time.

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Speaker 5: Who's up next? Shit, let's go to t O t O.

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Speaker 5: How are you t O.

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Speaker 8: Doing good?

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Speaker 6: Matt?

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Speaker 8: George at Jones.

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Speaker 5: God bless you boys, God bless you.

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Speaker 6: Matt.

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Speaker 8: T O has always got you back. Them boys can't

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Speaker 8: handle a few minutes of politics, say a bunch of

647
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Speaker 8: crab babies.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right, Matt.

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Speaker 8: Coming from a boy who's spent a few weekends in jail.

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Speaker 8: If Donald Trump is sent to jail, he ain't gonna

651
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Speaker 8: need no secret service it out. He's got that dial

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Speaker 8: gain him and within one week he'll be the shock

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Speaker 8: collar for.

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Speaker 6: The entire facility.

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Speaker 8: Really, it might take a prison right or two, but

656
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 8: Donald Trump is going to make jail great again.

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Speaker 5: Funny, that's really. That was good.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna be the first one to put money down

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Speaker 8: on his commissary so he can have all the wrong

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Speaker 8: and nogle c.

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Speaker 5: That'll be my call today. That was good.

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Speaker 4: You brand a call day right off? TiO was becoming

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Speaker 4: a good caller ship. I don't you think right like

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Speaker 4: he's he's starting to he's fighting a rhythm in terms

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Speaker 4: of a new really good caller.

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Speaker 3: I like it brings the fire.

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Speaker 4: He brings the fire right off the By the way,

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Speaker 4: speaking of legal problems, did you see that fourteen people

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Speaker 4: were arrested in Casey County for cock fighting on a

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Speaker 4: Sunday night when they should have been they should have

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Speaker 4: been at church. And then on a Sunday night they

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Speaker 4: had a cock fight in Casey County and fourteen people

673
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Speaker 4: were arrested.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how common this is and honest Sunday night,

675
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Speaker 2: and that on a Saturday night. Okay, you probably shouldn't

676
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Speaker 2: do it any night, but I mean, like on a

677
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Speaker 2: Sunday night.

678
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Speaker 5: I know, Sunday nights for the Lord, you would think,

679
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Speaker 5: I mean Casey.

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Speaker 4: I remember reading one time Casey County this is I

681
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: think true, has a higher percentage of people that go

682
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Speaker 4: to church than any county in Kentucky. I remember when

683
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: I was doing my book that there were like four

684
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: or five stats that kind of stick in my head

685
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: in Casey County, I believe has a greater percentage of

686
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: people who go to church regularly than any county in Kentucky.

687
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: And yet fourteen people on a Sunday night are out cockfighting.

688
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Speaker 6: Casey County the Apple Festival. I mean it is good people.

689
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 5: Now that's a place where we did a show at

690
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Speaker 5: a funeral home.

691
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Speaker 6: We did now in the parking lot. You're exactly right.

692
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 6: But again another county the cock fighting.

693
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Speaker 5: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't consider myself sheltered growing up, but I was

695
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: sheltered from cock fighting. You know, in Bell County they

696
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: handled snakes, but they didn't cockfight, at least that I

697
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: know of. So I have still been come surprised me

698
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: how prevalent the cockfighting is. Me too, And it seems

699
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: like to me, Shannon, the police are targeting it, you

700
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it feels like we're getting

701
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Speaker 4: more and more cockfighting arrests every week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, like I can't believe how common this is. I

704
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: thought that, you know, it's just like folklore or something.

705
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: It's not actually happening.

706
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Speaker 3: But it is. Fourteen Yeah, fourteen people they called. At

707
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Speaker 3: least it's not a stadium though.

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Speaker 5: Did you read the article? The article said fourteen people.

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Speaker 4: It was at a barn, and they had they were

710
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Speaker 4: also they listed the charges and you know, most of

711
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: them were about cockfighting, and one of them said illegally

712
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Speaker 4: selling concessions.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what's crazy. Were worried about concession stands in

714
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Speaker 6: these cockfighting?

715
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Speaker 5: It's the concession part.

716
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Speaker 4: But like so that but that means there's that's enough

717
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: people that they felt like they needed to sell concession.

718
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Speaker 5: That's true.

719
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Speaker 6: Yes, So we'll just wait a couple more months and

720
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 6: we'll see another county get busted.

721
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Speaker 5: The wrap of cockfighting in Kentucky is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Who's next, trash man?

723
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Speaker 5: Trash man how are you you just peachy buddy? How

724
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: are you doing good?

725
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 6: You know on cock fighting?

726
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 9: If you were going to rob a bank in Lexington,

727
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 9: you're want to do it during a UK ball game.

728
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good that's a really good point. So

729
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: you're saying you have it on Sunday night because everybody's in.

730
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Speaker 5: Church exactly exactly makes sense.

731
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 9: Times in the sheriff or might be in church.

732
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Speaker 5: So that's a really smart idea.

733
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Speaker 9: Actually, yeah, hey, I do have a suggestion for a

734
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Speaker 9: guest host for you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I don't I don't know his affiliation with.

736
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 9: Louisville, uh uh, the University of Louisville. But I was

737
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 9: thinking Justin Thomas might be a good one.

738
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Speaker 4: He would be great if he if we could get

739
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Speaker 4: him that that might be a little bit out of

740
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: our ability.

741
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 5: But getting Justin Thomas, you know, he was in Louisville.

742
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: They just put up they just put up his banner

743
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: in Louisville. They did, ye, Louis Thomas, Louisville.

744
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, and he has a I believe he has a

745
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 9: charity there in Louisville. And uh so you know it

746
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 9: might he might get a lot.

747
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Speaker 4: Of We'll see what we can do our our ks

748
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: R golf scream was always in his dad's course, So

749
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: maybe we can maybe maybe we can make that.

750
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Speaker 5: I appreciate the call he did.

751
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 6: He play at Alabama.

752
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: He played golf at Alabama. Okay, he played at Alabama.

753
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: He actually gave Did you see that speech he gave

754
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: when they uh, I guess it was maybe.

755
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: It was yesterday.

756
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 6: Did you see the speech he.

757
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: Gave when they were talking about the banner and all

758
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: that stuff. It was actually really sweet. He started crying

759
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: and he said, there's a reason why every time I'm introduced,

760
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: I don't say University of Alabama or where I live now,

761
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: I will always say Louisville, Kentucky, because and he got

762
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: choked up.

763
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Speaker 5: And I thought that was actually really nice.

764
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Speaker 6: That is nice. Seems like a good guy. I've never

765
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 6: met him. He seems like really he.

766
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 4: Was really good on that the Netflix golf thought that.

767
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: I thought that made him. That made him look really good. Shannon,

768
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: All right, so did you send me the ads?

769
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Speaker 3: I did?

770
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: All right, So let's let's do this here, let's do one.

771
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Speaker 4: You know, I should have it up, but you know,

772
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Speaker 4: sometimes you get a little start talking to a bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Denver might be in trouble, and I bet on Denver

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Speaker 6: last night.

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Speaker 4: Uh, they might be in trouble. I mean Minnesota. Well

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Speaker 4: Sports Radio A five nine two eight oh twenty two

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Speaker 4: eighty seven. On the text machine, one person writes, Matt,

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Speaker 4: my dad is the most negative UK fan.

797
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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm completely bought in on Mark Pope. I'm excited to

799
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Speaker 4: see a new area era of basketball, but my dad

800
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: complains constantly.

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00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 5: What should I tell him to get him to buy

802
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: in on the Mark Pope Air? Good question.

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Speaker 4: So if your dad's just like one of these negative dudes,

804
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: it's always gonna be negative. There might not be much

805
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: you can do, but let's say that there's a way

806
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: to win him. What you Ryan Lemon are selling this

807
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: dude's dad, how do you sell him on the Mark Pope.

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Speaker 6: Air, I'd say, Dad, take a knee. And the one

809
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 6: thing you gotta understand is that if if Caliberry stayed here,

810
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 6: we're gonna get a lot of the same, a lot

811
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 6: of these great recruits, and we're gonna be selling ourselves.

812
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 6: We're gonna win it all and end up with a disappointment.

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00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 6: In March, again, again and again, it was time for

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Speaker 6: a breath of fresh air. It was time for something.

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Speaker 6: Pope's a guy that brow. He gave us all our

816
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Speaker 6: program back. He wants to win as much as we do.

817
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: He wants to sweat as much as we want the

818
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Speaker 6: sweat he wants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he mean he wants to sweat. He just wants

820
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Speaker 5: to sweat.

821
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Speaker 6: He works so hard getting recruiting, he's sweating. I mean

822
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Speaker 6: he was at Frederick Douglas and Lexic Catholic High schools yesterday.

823
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 6: He's working his butt off, and that's what we want.

824
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 6: Somebody that wants to wants to be here and wants

825
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Speaker 6: to succeed as much as we wanted to succeed.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that worked?

827
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Speaker 4: Shaying, I mean, do you think you think the dad's

828
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: gonna be like, well, he's sweating a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be good.

830
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 6: Works for me.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, I'm on board with you, bro. Here's the thing

832
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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: Here's the case for Pump.

834
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: The case is, you know you have a dude who

835
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: can do the x's and o's. Yes, right, you know

836
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: you have to do just watch his teams play. You

837
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 4: know you have the dude who can do the x's o's.

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: He's smart.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, success is you don't have to be

840
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: smart to be successful, but being smart gives you a

841
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: lot better chance at being successful, and he is very smart.

842
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: The one question was recruiting, and he went and hired

843
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: two of the best recruiters in the country. If you

844
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: assume that works, then you got what you need right

845
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: this year, it's a hodgepodge of a roster. But let's

846
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: see how he recruits. I have a feeling needs due

847
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: Alvin Brooks and Jason hard are gonna get great guys.

848
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: Mark Fox was a good X and O coach. What

849
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: did had a hard time getting players, but he was

850
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: a good X and O coach at Nevada. Remember he

851
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: took Nevada to like the Sweet sixteen or something. Then

852
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: he ended up at Georgia. They they didn't do great

853
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: at Georgia, but he didn't get players. But if you

854
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: believe in X and o's coaching, Pope has it, and

855
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 4: then he's got these other dudes in the Kentucky brand

856
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 4: to go get ports.

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00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 6: We all agree cal was maybe one of the best

858
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: recruiters in the history of the game.

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00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: No, he's the best recruiter. It's like him and John

860
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: Wooden are the best recruiters ever.

861
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 6: But when it came to endgame X and O coaching,

862
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 6: maybe I wasn't cal strength. That won't be the case anymore.

863
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 6: That's going to be a major strength for this coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: So that that's the thing for me.

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Speaker 4: Did you see, Shannon Tyler gaff Leone, the jockey for

866
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: Sierra Leone got called to the principal's office. He's being

867
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: called in to explain why he pulled on the horse.

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Speaker 5: Next to him down the stretch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hm, did you see that video?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he can be tugging on the main.

872
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: So he was look at you, tugging on the main

873
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: the words, but he reached over. Now, gaff Leone said

874
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 4: he did it for balance. He said he he said

875
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: the horse sior Leone was leaning in and he reached

876
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: over to balance himself. Which is amazing to think about

877
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: going that fast and be like, I'm gonna balance myself

878
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: on the horse.

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00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 6: Now.

880
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 5: He says he was not trying to push the horse.

881
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 5: He was trying to balance it.

882
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: Shannon, do you think he was trying to balance or

883
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 4: was he trying to like hold the horse back?

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00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: Look like a push off to me, you know, like

885
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: in basketball you have a push off down low. I

886
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: think that's what was going on. Should have caught a foul.

887
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Speaker 2: He should probably be disqualified.

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Speaker 5: What do you think?

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: See, I'm a Shannon away. I think it was a

890
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 6: push off. I think they were about to start to

891
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 6: collide and get together. He didn't want to get disqualified.

892
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 6: He was trying to push him away for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he was trying to push him away

894
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: to no, you can't do that, but maybe better than

895
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: hitting him, Yeah, I think so. So in the lead

896
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: up to the race, I watched more coverage than I've

897
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: ever watched. I watched Oaks Day, I watched Derby Day,

898
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 4: and they kept I watched him play the same video

899
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 4: seven times of Randy Moss talking about how Sierra Leone

900
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: drifts towards the rail.

901
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 5: He was like, watch this race, he drifted. Watch this race,

902
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, good grief, shut.

903
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: Up about the drifting. But then it ended up happening.

904
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: He did end up drifting, so we'll see if he

905
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: gets in trouble. Myron called that. Myron called texted me

906
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: right after and goes, are you allowed to push off?

907
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 5: And I'm like, come on, you didn't even push off?

908
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 5: And then the via off.

909
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 6: They pushed off. He's not gonna I think limit the

910
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 6: other horses with Forever Young should impede its performance anyway.

911
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 6: But I think he was just trying just to get

912
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 6: it away.

913
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: Well, he's not strong enough when they're going that fast

914
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: to push the horse away.

915
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 6: Should pull the hair so much he's gonna you rear up.

916
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if he'd grabbed a hold of the

917
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 6: main and yanked a big hair of of it.

918
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: I feel like you would have been able to tell

919
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 4: you you think he pulled the tail.

920
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying that that's maybe the only way you

921
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 6: were going to he'd even if he'd grabbed a big

922
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 6: hunk of the main and.

923
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: Horse riding around on a racehorse.

924
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: This is the expert horse journalism that Ryan was known for.

925
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: You've covered the derby for twenty years.

926
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 6: Hey, and I know nothing about it. My news director said, no,

927
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 6: just enough to fake it, and that's what I did.

928
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 6: I knew just enough to fake.

929
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: It, all right, who's snackt shit?

930
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 7: Jonathan?

931
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 5: Jonathan? Go ahead, Jonathan.

932
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, A longtime follower, short time listener. I'd really

933
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 10: just started listening every day after Oakland lost because I

934
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 10: was interested to see what the future was with Cal.

935
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 5: All right.

936
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 10: Who One thing I've noticed, one thing I've noticed since

937
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 10: following every day is I guess Cal and his staff

938
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 10: would not speak to you guys over the last few years.

939
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 10: What happened and when.

940
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 5: Did it happen? Well, I mean that's a pretty loaded question.

941
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 5: Uh well okay.

942
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: So I mean, if you want the truth, I mean,

943
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 4: everybody says it's everybody says the wrong thing on this.

944
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 5: Here's the truth. Beginning in the COVID year.

945
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 4: So I used to talk to Cal probably every three

946
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 4: or four day, two or three days, three or four

947
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: days for ten years, usually with Dwayne Pev as part

948
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 4: of it. PV left and went to DePaul, and then

949
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: it was the COVID year. And then in the COVID year,

950
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: because Dwayne wasn't here, it was just natural. We didn't

951
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 4: talk like we did used to. We talked very rarely.

952
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: But then when they started stinking in the COVID year,

953
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 4: we became critical of the team.

954
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 5: I don't think he liked that. We had one conversation.

955
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: That wasn't a bad conversation, but where he sort of

956
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: confronted me about it, and I'm like, look, man, I

957
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: have to do my job. I have to talk about

958
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 4: like we stink. I mean I didn't say we stink,

959
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: but I'm like, well, you know, I have to talk

960
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: about it. He didn't love that. Then, from what I'm told,

961
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: I never talked to him again after that. And then

962
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: from what I'm told, the day after we lost in

963
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: the SEC turn, we sat at that table right over

964
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: there and said all the things we felt like he

965
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: needed to do. I think somebody played that for him,

966
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: and I think it really made him mad. And then

967
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: ever since then he felt like we were like an

968
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 4: enemy of the team, which is ridiculous but was the case.

969
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: And then I think there were people around him that

970
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: would only tell him when we were critical. They wouldn't

971
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: tell him the many times we were positive, so he

972
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: would if you don't listen to the show and you

973
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 4: just keep hearing that we're critical, it becomes negative reinforcement

974
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: with no positive reinforcement the other way. And so I

975
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: think it just built frustration in him, and then it

976
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: got bad in the last couple of years where he

977
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: was frustrated all the time.

978
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: There are people out there that'll say, oh, they were mad.

979
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: You did a special during COVID where if we lost,

980
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: you got your money back, Like none of that was

981
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: that was not it. It was literally the clip of

982
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: us talking after the SEC tournament. And then I think

983
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: there were people around him that sort of a game

984
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: favor with him would just go, do you hear what

985
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: they say about you today?

986
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 5: And that made it worse.

987
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: Because there wasn't anybody going, did you hear something positive

988
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: they said about you today?

989
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 5: And it just got worse.

990
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: And I hated it because I had a good relationship

991
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: with him for over a decade. But that is the

992
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: truth of how it ended up playing out. Unfortunately, when

993
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: we come back, we have all ranked our five worst states.

994
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: In our country. We will let you know what they

995
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 5: are right after this