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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. We'll need some time to

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Speaker 1: adapt to the pro game. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dana Hansas,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room failed Well here

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Speaker 1: I was Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rose Thal what's up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Feeling it O? Greg is having the time of his

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Speaker 1: life on this Sunday. I can tell well, it's nice

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Speaker 1: that Dan. You know, last Sunday he wasn't here, and

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Speaker 1: now I can just kick back and relax. We basically

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Speaker 1: just sit here. It's Dan show now certainly not my show,

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Speaker 1: but this is the YouTube Sunday night show you'll see.

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Speaker 1: And I have a sinus infection, so everyone, do you

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Speaker 1: be careful. Not feeling great fighting through Chris Rose one

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Speaker 1: of our hosts also on MLB Network NFL Network, he said,

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Speaker 1: the number one thing when you're ill and you're an

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Speaker 1: on ire guy, tell people that you're ill. Make light

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Speaker 1: of it. It puts the whole thing to develop some sympathy.

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Speaker 1: Are you I see you also give you tips on

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Speaker 1: name dropping. Yeah, Chris Rowles, you know he's a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I had a nice conversation with him. Anyway. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: you gotta organize when you do the Sunday show. It's

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Speaker 1: our flagship show here at Around the NFL Podcast, where

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Speaker 1: we go over every single Sunday game, including the Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football showdown between the Cults and Patriots, which we'll

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Speaker 1: get to at the bottom of the show. But there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about today. Mark, you uh,

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Speaker 1: you had a nice Sunday. I sat across from you. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You got a little upset about the Browns. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to a little later, but in general you seem to

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Speaker 1: be in good spirits. Mark, Well, you know, part of

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Speaker 1: our job is just to maintain and to get through it,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I did. It was quite a fun

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Speaker 1: Sunday by the Barks going to London Market on his

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Speaker 1: way to London on Tuesday. So any of our listeners

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Speaker 1: that are in London, you and Connor and Mark, you

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Speaker 1: guys gotta figure out where the big meet up is

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Speaker 1: gonna be next Friday or Saturday. I'll leave that to

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to meet some of the English followers of

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Speaker 1: the show. Is it true that you actually spent some

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Speaker 1: time in your life in England. Yes, it's been it's

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Speaker 1: been chronicled. I lived there when I was a young boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out to Weybridge, where I lived, if

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Speaker 1: googled Gary bar Barnage today to find out if he

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Speaker 1: was English. He sounds English. Gary Barnage the Gara Bonnage,

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Speaker 1: I missed it. Sometimes you know, something will go off

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Speaker 1: your radar and you should know, but you didn't. Gary

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Speaker 1: the Barnage Fim lineage. So yes, a lot of good

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Speaker 1: we did at least two weeks ago. Greg, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I did listen to the show. None of it stuck

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Speaker 1: keep doing that. And we'll start with the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 1: who we all thought, or most of America thought that

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Speaker 1: out that way, because the Panthers remain undefeated after staging

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Speaker 1: He's becoming more and more of a problem every week.

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Speaker 1: checking another undefeated team, the Denver Broncos and Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals do from September three, D I need to

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Speaker 1: see it in January. Um T D thinks the body

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Speaker 1: language is better on and Dalton, But I think I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's the hair. Yeah, but that's but

431
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Speaker 1: you're when you have good hair and you know this

432
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Speaker 1: dand you're just feeling good from head to tell you,

433
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Speaker 1: I never feel myself until the product is in there

434
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Speaker 1: you go and that that's a Dan ritual. He comes

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Speaker 1: into the office. First thing he does, put a little

436
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Speaker 1: jail in this hair and then man, its you have

437
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Speaker 1: like an aura around you, like a pregnant lady where

438
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Speaker 1: you just feel something good is going to happen with you.

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Speaker 1: Everything you just said is accurate. Moving on that you're

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Speaker 1: a pregnant lady. Yeah, I'm prego im do. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the month, I'm taking along with another undefeated team,

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. They will go into their bye

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Speaker 1: week without a loss. Aaron Rodgers looked human for the

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Speaker 1: second straight week and Philip rivers through for five hundred

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Speaker 1: and three yards uh and also has another kid on

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Speaker 1: the way. That's eight kids. Come on, that's a preschool

447
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Speaker 1: there and you know what, and he can obviously take

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Speaker 1: care of those kids a multi millionaire. But we got

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Speaker 1: a lot of people on this planet. We got an overpopulation.

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Speaker 1: By the way, beautiful transition from the pregnant woman conversation

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Speaker 1: to this, I would encourage Philip Rivers and his wife

452
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Speaker 1: to have a lot more kids because they can provide

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Speaker 1: for them and raise it. Says A says a man

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Speaker 1: who had seven brothers, six brothers. At a certain point,

455
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Speaker 1: it's rubbing in it a little bit like I'm that

456
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Speaker 1: potent anyway. So Riverence through for five three yards, but

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense got a goal line stop in the

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Speaker 1: final minute. They secure twenty win at Lambeau West. The Packers,

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Speaker 1: you know, they don't look so indestructible of late, but

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Speaker 1: results are results. Yeah, I think I think it might

461
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Speaker 1: have been you who said after week three or week four,

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Speaker 1: you can take away Jordy Nelson, you can take away

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Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey and Aaron Rodgers still plays like an m

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Speaker 1: v P. That was Packers keep right on ruling, and

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Speaker 1: I think we we saw like the breaking point the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. You can, you can blame it

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Speaker 1: on Jordy Nelson, but it's not really you take away

468
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Andrew Corliss, Time Montgomery, Eddie Lacey is completely

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Speaker 1: ineffective because he's playing through an ankle injury or because

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Speaker 1: he's overweight, one or the other. But you've got all

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Speaker 1: these people around Aaron Rodgers, and then you've got he

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Speaker 1: can't make back shoulder throws to Jeff Jannis because they're

473
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Speaker 1: not on the same page. Rock Richard Rodgers isn't coming

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Speaker 1: down with with tight catch with catches in tight spaces.

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Speaker 1: Cobb is dropping passes. He's throwing like James Starks was

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Speaker 1: open for potential eight touchdown. But that's a tricky route

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Speaker 1: that James Starks is not used to running. Yeah, basically

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Speaker 1: his his number one, number three, and number four receivers

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Speaker 1: from August or are out of the line up, so

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Speaker 1: we throw into a bunch of guys. At one point,

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Speaker 1: he's throwing in a red zone. You came over my

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Speaker 1: desk and they show who's on the field is Jared

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Speaker 1: Edward Derris and some guy named Justin Perillo or something.

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Speaker 1: Those are his red zone weapons. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 1: he can't for eight point eight yards per attempt today

486
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Speaker 1: and they and they scored twenty seven points and win

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Speaker 1: the game and stay undefeated. So that's the luxury of,

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Speaker 1: you know, being the pack What was it like to

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Speaker 1: watch Philip Rivers top his performance from Monday night when

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Speaker 1: he threw it for seven nine times or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: today through its sixty five times for five under the yards.

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Speaker 1: There's the real statistics. He was surgical against the defensive

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Speaker 1: Football outsiders ranked as number one in the NFL on

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Speaker 1: past defense. Now, the Packers hadn't really played any great

495
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year, so it's telling that Rivers did this

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Speaker 1: to him. But Stevie Johnson was inactive. Keenan Allen played

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Speaker 1: awesome for three quarters and then sat out the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter with a hip injury. In three quarters, he and

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Speaker 1: he's his His performance might have been more impressive than

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. He was making great catches. What is the

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Speaker 1: deal with Eddie Lacey? Three rushes off four carries and

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Speaker 1: James Starks just takes over. Well, I look at it

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Speaker 1: this way. We've seen Eddie Lacy when he's healthy, and

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Speaker 1: he's an excellent football player. So he's either outer shape

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Speaker 1: or unhealthy. We know he was a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: He's playing through an ankle injury, and when they played

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Speaker 1: James Starks as much over him. It suggests to me

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Speaker 1: they're just trying to get to the by get Eddie

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Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy healthy and then get him going. But he

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Speaker 1: did not look like himself. He looks sluggish and slow.

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Speaker 1: There's there's something about this Chargers team. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: they're in the games there against the Packers and the Steelers,

513
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Speaker 1: but now they're at two and four. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is a team that I don't know if they need

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs to keep everyone there. But pretty

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Speaker 1: disappointing start for San Diego and they're not far away

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Speaker 1: from being one in five either or I guess a

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Speaker 1: better record based on every one of their games. Every

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Speaker 1: every team behind them, we cannot take seriously everybody in

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Speaker 1: front of them, we can. Okay, that's good. That checks out. Well.

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Speaker 1: You make cryptic statements like that, you're usually hiding some

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Speaker 1: kind of ina. I know, I said something last show

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Speaker 1: that I think McCoy there might be some talker that

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Speaker 1: they need to be a winning team or else he's gone.

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Speaker 1: Greg is secretly our podcast insider. You know why, because

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Speaker 1: Greg has this thing like all the insiders out there,

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Speaker 1: and he's got some sources within buildings. I think that

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Speaker 1: we don't know about. So whenever you see him texting,

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Speaker 1: he's always that information coming into him. Reputation unwarranted. Moving on,

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Speaker 1: Landry Jones through to a pair of touchdown passes to

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Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant in relief of an injured Michael Vick, and

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers came back from a deficit to over

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Mark you know, listen, Landry Jones a

534
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Speaker 1: nice little performance there, but losing to a big ben

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Speaker 1: free Steeler squad is no way for a team of

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Speaker 1: a t M to comport itself. It reminds me a

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Speaker 1: little bit of the way you described the Cardinals a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, where they absolutely dominated and on

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Speaker 1: every category statistically four and twenty one yards for Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 1: They were moving the ball up and down the field,

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Speaker 1: plenty of big plays, but they could not turn the

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Speaker 1: real estate into points. And I give the Steelers credit

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Speaker 1: for shutting down the run game for much of the

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Speaker 1: for much of the affair, and they just a couple

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Speaker 1: of big turnovers for for Arizona. I mean, you cannot,

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Speaker 1: you cannot on the road commit the turnovers and Carson

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Speaker 1: Palmer threw a killer pick at the end that really

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Speaker 1: put this game out of reach for them. Pittsburgh. It's

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Speaker 1: it was a very it was just one of the

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Speaker 1: stranger games I've seen all season. Clearly, if if if

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Speaker 1: you're without Big Bend next week, I would put Landry

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Speaker 1: Jones in over Mike Vick because what happened right away

553
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Speaker 1: was that the playbooks seemed to completely open up in

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Speaker 1: Arizona's defense responded differently to Landry Jones, who was taking

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Speaker 1: more shots down field. It opened up the run game

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Speaker 1: for Levian Bell, who was just seeing seven men in

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Speaker 1: the you know, in the box time after time. With

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Speaker 1: Vic on the field, it was completely ineffectual. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not a good situation for Pittsburgh, but it was

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Speaker 1: huge to come out of against the team they're not

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Speaker 1: They're they're not even close to being a better team

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Speaker 1: than Arizona, but they got it done. Then against the

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Speaker 1: top five team in your building without your quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: you actually go to your third string quarterback and you

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Speaker 1: get a win, your four and two now and you

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Speaker 1: could you can now withstand being without Raethlisberg for another week,

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Speaker 1: and there's a very good chance that happens and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay. I mean, this was their biggest win

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Speaker 1: of the season easy. The fact that they've now ripped

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Speaker 1: off two of these against two decent teams, you know

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Speaker 1: in San Diego and a very good team in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I mean that just makes me think, how good can

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Speaker 1: these Steelers be? You get Ryan sz Ear back, you

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Speaker 1: get Ben Roethlisberger back. It's like they're right back where

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Speaker 1: we thought they'd be before the season, which is as

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Speaker 1: one of the real Super Bowl. It is funny to watch, though,

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Speaker 1: what they have become and what they were with with

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Speaker 1: Vic on the field and no Big Ben one passing

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Speaker 1: yard in the first half that when you take we

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Speaker 1: talk m v P and you talk anything other than quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I don't listen anymore because this was another example that

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Speaker 1: when you take that one starter off the field at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: this was a completely average offense. Look at Martavis Bryant

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00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: runs wild today in Antonio. Brown didn't do much, but

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. The defense is much better than we

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Speaker 1: thought earlier in the season in August. And once you

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Speaker 1: get Big Ben back, you've got Martavis Bryant. Levi on

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Speaker 1: Belle Antonio Brown. That's a Super Bowl content in a

589
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: two team division now, and I think that everyone if

590
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: you do have your PS two somewhere in storage, you

591
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: can get that out, dusted out, plugging in see if

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Speaker 1: you can find matt in two thousand four, you know,

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Speaker 1: with Michael Vick on the cover of About with the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Put that in there. Play a game, because I don't

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Speaker 1: think we'll ever see another Michael Vick snap in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You just born a little out for Michael Vick. It

597
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: was actually I'm not gonna go too crazy about Michael Vick.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that think you shouldn't ever

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Speaker 1: even come back to the NFL. But if you're somebody

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Speaker 1: that that guy defined it or the NFL, and I

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00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: think it was very clear by the end of when

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Speaker 1: he left the game and these past two games that

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick's finished, this could probably this probably was his

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Speaker 1: last start in the NFL. It might even be his

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Speaker 1: last appearance in the NFL. It's probably on the field.

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Speaker 1: I know, that's what I'm saying. But you're what I'm

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Speaker 1: noticing is that you're plagiarizing your own tweet These days,

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Speaker 1: you know your tweets on the screen and you're just

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Speaker 1: using that material that's kind of like my journal of

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Speaker 1: my thoughts over the course of Sunday, and some make

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Speaker 1: it to the good. I like to look at you

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Speaker 1: as like a multi platform weapon that you operate on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and you bring the same content to the the

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Speaker 1: exact same content to the podcast, word for word. So

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Speaker 1: it's like the end of Mr Belvetere. When you're writing

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Speaker 1: your journal, you have to announce it straights out of China.

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Speaker 1: That's with another time you're Vick and you get out

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Speaker 1: played by the kicker from Friday Night Lights. It's time

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Speaker 1: to go very fair. Wow, Andrew, that's right, um Mark,

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Speaker 1: have you gotten too season two yet? Friday Night Lights?

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Speaker 1: I knocked off a few episodes last night. You know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize this season is twenty six episodes long.

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Speaker 1: It's taking me and on a whole lot of free time.

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Speaker 1: I think I've got about nine more episodes in season

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Speaker 1: one Friday Lights. I believe premiere to two thousand and six,

626
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Speaker 1: which is light years ago in terms of what's happened

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Speaker 1: in television since how how television is produced now now,

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Speaker 1: it's like twelve to fourteen episodes of season Max. Back

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Speaker 1: then it was like, Hey, Writer's Room, Bill Craik out

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Speaker 1: thirty seven episodes from binge watching is now I need

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Speaker 1: a lost weekend. I need to vanish from society to

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Speaker 1: get through, you know, a season. We need a television podcast,

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Speaker 1: theology podcast about shows that came out a decade ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or two. And then Mr Belvedere, by the way, was

635
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Speaker 1: not a well known sitcom, so if you're overseas listeners,

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Speaker 1: he was a British butler. Mr Belvedere who had British

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Speaker 1: Bob Yucker was prominently involved. Alright, moving on, well real quick.

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Speaker 1: For all the people worried about the team of at

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Speaker 1: L or asking me if I'm worried about not worried

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Speaker 1: at all? Again, a hundred and sixty more points in

641
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: their opponent. The Cardinals are a well oiled machine. They're

642
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a few losses. There's still a great team.

643
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: I agree with that. It's disappointing they haven't played, that

644
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: they've been outplayed, or that they've lost two out of

645
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: three games since we picked them. This is something that

646
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: you have when you have Seattle in the division, though,

647
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: you you want to take advantage of every opportunity to

648
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: beat a Landry Jones slash Michael Victim. That you got,

649
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: that's all. That's fair. We still got, We still got

650
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: the faith coming from us. Don't worry, cards, don't be nervous.

651
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of generous. They think

652
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: they need to be even better. Yourself, be yourselves, let's

653
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: move on. The Minnesota Vikings could not get Agent Peterson

654
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: going and got another quiet game from Teddy Bridgewater, but

655
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: they still did enough for a sixteen ten win over

656
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Greg I watched this game, and

657
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I would like to put in a formal request that

658
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: we don't have to watch anymore as a group. As

659
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: a group, well, but the problem like that I could consider,

660
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: But they have there's a team on the other side

661
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: of the field each week when they play, and I

662
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: don't think there's any other technology is improving. I don't

663
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: think you can just take the Chiefs off the field

664
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: and just watch the Vikings. I don't know. I need

665
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: you to tell me about the Vikings in general, you

666
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, I get that. I get that,

667
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: but and I feel bad when I say that. If

668
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: you're a Chiefs fan, that's listening to the show. This

669
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: is I mean no disrespect. I mean not towards the fans.

670
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: The fans deserve better, uh you know, they deserve a

671
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: team they could get cited about today. Because while without

672
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles there's there's nothing there. You got Alex Smith,

673
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: who is you know, Mr Fuddy Duddy throwing those little

674
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: dumb passes over the middle, not pushing the ball downfield.

675
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey disappears for stretches. I don't know how that happened.

676
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Jeremy mack Jeremy maclell got hurt in this game that

677
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: things are even worse without macklin involved. They got passes

678
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: for Alex Smith. It looked like, yeah, I mean this,

679
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean the team didn't playball. Charke Hendrick West didn't

680
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: do anything. Nile Davis didn't do anything. West had a

681
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: bad fumble also in the fourth quarter when they had

682
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: a little momentum. This team went from last week to

683
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: this week four and a half quarters without scoring a

684
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: point with Jamal Charles. Without Jamal Charles, so the Vikings

685
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: didn't play particularly well in this game. The Chiefs defense,

686
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: to its credit, did a really nice job bottling up

687
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: um Adrian Peterson who um did not get going ever

688
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: in this game. But at the end of the day,

689
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: it was it was just a boring, workman like victory,

690
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: and that's what they want to be on offense, it

691
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: seems because this has been this isn't a departure from

692
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: what they were last year either. They're very they're content

693
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: as an organization of Alex Smith at quarterback and all

694
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: these shortcomings that you know that are joined with that,

695
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: and they want to win and lose games sixteen to

696
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: ten and they're gonna lose a lot more than they're

697
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna win, and I put it on bad luck, but

698
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: they're not builkers. They're not built to go out and

699
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: dominate games on offense and have a nice time being

700
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: six and ten when that's the kid. I think they

701
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: have like two more years invested in Alex Smith. But

702
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: if you're any read, is there any thought to just

703
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: kick the tires and old chase the former making the

704
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: leap candidate. I think they we were calling for that

705
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and think they will just because

706
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: of the guaranteed money in in Smith's contract they did.

707
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: Did a Teddy Bridgewater look any better this week? Really?

708
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: He's been. He hasn't really. Have you guys seen a

709
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: game where you thought he's looked really good this year? Yes,

710
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: one game, right, he was just about perfect. But other

711
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: than that, he was just you know, he was just

712
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: a guy in the field. I mean he threw one

713
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: touchdown and through two picks, not not good throws. He

714
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: has three touchdowns for the entire season. Now, um, so

715
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't take much. I didn't take much

716
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: out of that. When you guys check out the game,

717
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: maybe you'll see something different. The one guy did stand

718
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: out for them is um Stefan Diggs. Yeah, yeah, fifth

719
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: round pick, didn't. I don't even think he was active

720
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: in the first few weeks of the season. The last

721
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: two weeks he has thirteen catches for two hundred sixteen yards,

722
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: had seven for one nine today. So you know there

723
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: are guys in that offense, Cordele Patterson, of course, Mark

724
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: your boy, Charles Johnson. They haven't been able to get

725
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: anybody to find um any success and it looks like

726
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: they hit on something with Digs here, so expect him

727
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: to be a regular part of that offense. You called

728
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: that on Thursday show that the you know, Mike Wallace.

729
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: What does he have two catches for twenty nine targets

730
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: and two catches where stef I digs nine targets And

731
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: he's not Mike Wallace anymore. He doesn't move like he

732
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: used to. Kyle Rudolph nine yards, I mean tight ends

733
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: and Norv Turner's offense typically thrive, and it's been the

734
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: opposite for some of these so called playmakers that we

735
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: were touting all summer. Beckon's having played well and get

736
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: their three and two, and I think they have the

737
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: Lions and Bears next, so they have a chance to

738
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: be right where everyone was hoping they would be something

739
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: like five and two. And some people might start, Oh,

740
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: is Adrian Peterson still the same guy? Because he's had

741
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: two kind of really bad games now statistically. But this

742
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: was not his fault. He was getting swallowed up in

743
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: the backfield before he even touched. He could really use

744
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater heating up a little bit to take some

745
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: heat off him. Um, all right, now it's the time

746
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: of the show. It's Sunday, where we welcome in a woman.

747
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: That's it. I'll leave it there, Let's bring her in. Hey,

748
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: it never gets less awkward that intro, I said, woman,

749
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: but I mean Wolf Woman. Colleen Wolf not only a

750
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: friend of the Around the NFL podcast, but you know what,

751
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: an actual friend of ours. That we we've hung out together,

752
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: We've ingested liquids, and we've had conversations the way you

753
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: said strange. But I had a friend in town this

754
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: weekend who who listens to the podcast now. He's a

755
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: recent adopt adoptee, and he was saying, he's like that

756
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Collie Wolf. She just needs to be on the show

757
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: every time. That Colleen. I don't think so. I think

758
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: this is the perfect amount of Colleen College so much more.

759
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Colleen she is every Sunday. She of course, she's one

760
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: of the faces of NFL now. She's also a constant

761
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: presence on the NFL Now Game Day Blitz program on Sundays,

762
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: which Greg you and I sat in on on NFL Now.

763
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: A little story about that. Today I did my two

764
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: segment thing and then the shack was like, alright, you know,

765
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: great to see her again, all right, Colleen take it away?

766
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I thought I was done.

767
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: So I put down my little stick Mike and I

768
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: start to start to walk away, and I see all

769
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: these people behind the camera like shooting the daggers, and

770
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: then and then it's no, you're not clear, You're not clear.

771
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: And now I'm standing in the middle of the set.

772
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: And then if I just bail and everyone has just

773
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: given me a look like I am human garbage. Why

774
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: not try to be a professional when you're on there.

775
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: I was trying. In what scenario? Are you not taking

776
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: the mic with you? If nothing, even if you think

777
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: the segments over, at least bring it with you. Be

778
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: helpful professional. I don't notice any of this all you

779
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: plugged in. I don't know. It's hard to tell sometimes. Alright,

780
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: going clear a scientology term, yes it is, I am

781
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: not a scientologist. That's for the Theology show? Or is

782
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: it is scientology a religion? Mark We'll start with we

783
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: will discuss on this summer's Theology podcast. All right, great, alright,

784
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: so let's continue with the games. Colleen's bag. It's always

785
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: great to have Colleen. And since Colleen's here and I'm

786
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: in a good mood, now we're gonna talk about the

787
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Ryan Fitzpatrick threw two touchdown passes and

788
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: ran for another score, and Chris Ivory posted a hundred

789
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: ninety six total yards. It all added up to a

790
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty Jets wins over the Washington Redskins

791
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: at the Meadowlands. The Jets Mark Sessler, I know the

792
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: brown stink again, and I don't revel in that, but

793
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: at least, well you kind of do, since they were

794
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: a play away for beating undefeated team and being three

795
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: and three, scrappy Browns, give them a little credit. Just

796
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: know that the Jets a fellow pain ranking team. They're

797
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: doing okay, I think that because very happy. I don't

798
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: understand why you're not jumping on the Jets bandwagon that on.

799
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. No, I don't need

800
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: to get on that train. Okay, it's gonna end horribly,

801
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: but this is my takeaway from this game. And yes,

802
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: the Redskins were all sorts of beat up, and um,

803
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets are at home. They should win

804
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: this game. I now think the Jets are actually good.

805
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: I think they're good. I think not only they have

806
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: a pretty nice schedule this year and they have a

807
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: really good defense. I think they're legitimately good. And it's

808
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: because Chris Irie. He's not the best running back in football. Uh,

809
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: even though Marsha Brandon Marshall said it, but he is

810
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: a top five running back right now. So not only

811
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: do you have a top three defense, you have a

812
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: top five running back Brandon Marshall West. If you were

813
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: to do an end of season wide receiver rankings, Brandon

814
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: Marshall keeps us up. He's a top five wide receiver

815
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: this year. This guy is doing something. And uh, you

816
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: know Don Maynard who I know West? You know well,

817
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: the great wide receiver of the sixty eight world champion Jets.

818
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: He was the last wide receiver to have a hundred

819
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: yards and four straight games. That's what Brandon Marshall did today.

820
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: So you have a great, great wide receiver, a great

821
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: running back, a great defense, and Ryan Fitzpatrick is okay, okay,

822
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: you gotta get offensive coordinator. I think that's one of

823
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: the yas at all. This Patrick played great today. He

824
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: had one interception, Um, so he does. He's gonna make

825
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: a mistake every week like that. Sometimes he'll make more

826
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: than one. But he made some big throws and he's

827
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: been making plays all year with his legs. In an

828
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: eighteen yard touchdown run that won this game, essentially put

829
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: the game away. So he's been getting first downs all

830
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: season with his legs. He's been limiting the killer mistakes.

831
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Put it all together, the Jets are good. This is

832
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: a ten win team. If they can play a team

833
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: that's missing eight starters every week, they'll be never thrown

834
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: watch the game and tell much more complete team than

835
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: last year. And it starts with all the pieces on

836
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: defense that Rex Ryan was not given at the end

837
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: of his tenure. And we always talked about the fact

838
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: that you know what Marshall did is he turns Eric

839
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Decker into not the number one and only target on

840
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: the field, but a very good number two. And you've

841
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: got weapons all of a sudden, all right, So you're

842
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: right there are They're good and they're not great. Go

843
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: ten and six. That means they go six and what

844
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: six and five down the stretch, and that could happen

845
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: because they're only good and I would be happy with

846
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: ten and six. Get in the playoffs and then see

847
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: what happens with that defense. Absolutely, da Ryan Fitzpatrick played

848
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: the best game by a Jets quarterback in the past decade.

849
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Because ESPN QBR says he did. They gave him a

850
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: nine QBR. He was. I mean, he was very good,

851
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he's not throwing downfield really he's

852
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: doing he's basically taking what the defense gives him. I thought,

853
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: I thought he played a very nice game by Ryan

854
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick standards. But I don't know, I feel like maybe

855
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: some of those Sanchez games, uh, before everything went downhill,

856
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: were probably better. Brett far Brett Far through six touchdowns

857
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: in the game against the Cardinals. Once every once in

858
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: a while there's a good Jet quarterback game, but Fitzpatrick

859
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: is getting the job done and Geno Smith is not

860
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: getting in anytime soon. They came into this game in

861
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: the second half and scored twenty four straight points. Then

862
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: just like dropped the mind right when I was reading

863
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: the tweets in this game, a lot of people were

864
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: saying the Jets were very lucky to even be close

865
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: in the first half, considering how poorly they played. They

866
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: turned it over three times in the first half, and

867
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: it was very Jets and it was basically all the

868
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: things I had been concerned about. Uh, They're down thirteen

869
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: ten at the half, and then Durrell Reeve has had

870
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: an interception early in the third quarter. He now has

871
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: six takeaways in five games, so he's been well worth

872
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: the money so far. And that changed the whole tenant

873
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: of the game. They went nuts after that, scored seventeen

874
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: straight points and that was pretty much it the Jets.

875
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I believe there were four and twelve. They haven't rased that. Well,

876
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: it should be fun, and you're right about the schedule.

877
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: I forget about that because I'm thinking, well, they just

878
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: haven't really beaten anyone. I mean, they won in Indianapolis

879
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: that that was solid, but they haven't beaten another team

880
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: with the winning record. But then I'm looking at the

881
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: rest of the schedule. They don't have any teams with

882
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: winning records. The rest of the way. You know, you

883
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: have the division games, which aren't easy. You have the

884
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: Patriots twice, which is very difficult. But other than that,

885
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: it's cake city. Including next week. That's a great game

886
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Jets Patriots that you think they will be talked about

887
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: it all I think on this podcast it will be that.

888
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, whether they're gonna bench Kirk Cousins

889
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: in Washington a game, j Gruden said, no way, he's

890
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's underwhelming to me in more point six

891
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: yards per attempting a couple more picks, Now what's the alternative?

892
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: And not RG three who was asking no alternative? It

893
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: won't be RG three. RG three was active for the

894
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: first time this year, but that was because they're so

895
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: banged up. I mean, they're not gonna play r G

896
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: three right because they don't want to listen gutting hurt.

897
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: But Cousins isn't the answer. Well, neither is Cole McCoy.

898
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: So you gotta just stick with There's absolutely no running

899
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: game either to help them right that they're supposed to

900
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: be built on running in time of possession and they've

901
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: been hit or miss all year. There are eight and

902
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: eight team in the making or maybe seven or six

903
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: and six wins. They got three on the road and

904
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: they got winning some games on the road. Did be

905
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: eight and eight? One bright spots really banged up there,

906
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean key guys, the Shawan Jackson, Trent william I

907
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: mean they Jordan read All, think these guys, Matt Jones,

908
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: all these guys are starting seven and active. Six of

909
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: them were starters. One bright Spot. I thought last week

910
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: for shot Breedlan played as well as any cornerback in

911
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: the NFL, and then this week he has two takeaways

912
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: and from what I three takeaway. He had two fumble

913
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: recoveries and interception in the first half, and then Brandon

914
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Marshall made him look bad on a touchdown later. But

915
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: he he played a very good game. So there there's

916
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: some things. There's still a good defense, but the Jets

917
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: rolled up a season high and yardage. If their defense

918
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: takes a step back there, this team's gonna create her.

919
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Geno Smith's next past next August and Oakland as a

920
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Raiders back up. Marcus loving this thing right, Raiders back up, sure,

921
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: preseason action. Geno Smith out the door. We don't need

922
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: him in New York anymore. Why would you ever bring

923
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: that guy back into the folds? Uh Fitz. He hadn't

924
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: been playing that well the past couple of weeks. So

925
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: this is toxic, ultra toxic. That's what Keith hands things to.

926
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad on the way to

927
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: work today, is Danny, they can't put that guy and

928
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: he's a bum. Your dad knows. Your dad's watched the

929
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: Jets for decades and decades. Danny Genius was terrible. Keith

930
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: hands a sorry, let's move on, all right. The Lions,

931
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: they've done it. They did it. You've predicted it. You

932
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: said it, prediction, they were favored in the game. What

933
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: was your what was your headline? The Lions? I don't

934
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: remember about no more winless teams, No more football teams

935
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: will win. Lions win a game. There are no more

936
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: winless teams. Adam, to be quick on your feet there, Greg,

937
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: the Lions have done it. Matt Frater kicked the twenty

938
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: seven yard field goal with less than three minutes to

939
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: go in overtime, giving Detroit a thirty seven thirty four

940
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: win over the Bears, their first taste of victory and

941
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: six tries Colleen. At one point this game appeared to

942
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: be heading towards a suitably pathetic tie. But it didn't happen, though,

943
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Yeah, no, Matt Stafford. He finally threw,

944
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean through for over four hundred yards, and there

945
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: were there was a stretch of like seven games where

946
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: he hadn't thrown for over three hundred and more importantly,

947
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: he went to Calvin Johnson. So Calvin Johnson finally has

948
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: a one hundred yard games. Yeah, the first one hundred

949
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: yard game of his career. But guys, I'm still not

950
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: sure what it catches at this point because of another terrible,

951
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: absurd call that was absolutely awful. So Golden Tate. He

952
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: gets the ball knocked out as he's crossing the goal

953
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: line right and the Bears defender comes down with it

954
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: before he hits the ground, and it's ruled interception. Then

955
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: it's reviewed and overturned and called a Golden Tate touchdown.

956
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, so the argument was that it's not the

957
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: same as these other highly controversial episodes where they're going

958
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: to the ground and there's possession or not maintained making

959
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: your football play. It's that he had possession when he

960
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: broke the plane, and so the play is over right.

961
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: Sort of makes sense. It just wasn't It was any

962
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: sense when you've got a rule where everybody in the

963
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: stadium thinks it's not a catch, everybody watching it at

964
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: home thinks it's not a catch. Mike Pereira thinks it's

965
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: not a catch, and all the coaches think it's not

966
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: a catch. It's a broken rule fixed and the Dino

967
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Blandino thing doesn't work because you can't throw to Dino

968
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna say whatever. Technically the rule book

969
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: might actually interpret it, it it doesn't really provide me any clarity.

970
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm more I look at a guy like nothing would

971
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: well changing the rule with clarity is clear at least

972
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: like Pereira, for instance, who used to be the VP

973
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: of officiating. They throw it to him and he's like,

974
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Ask ask Calvin Johnson if that's asked,

975
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that's Brian. I mean, I don't know what to call.

976
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: That's been my main point all along, the officials don't

977
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: know the rule. And take a look at that catch

978
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: by Golden Tate and then take a look at the

979
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffort catch from a couple of weeks ago and

980
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: tell me which one should have been a touch that right,

981
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: you'll pull your hair. I'll trying to figure it out.

982
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: It's just way too much gray area, and it's just

983
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: and it's just taking attention away from the Cutler Stafford

984
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Dull in the dome that people were waiting for a

985
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty four. Everyone's dogging these big chair there.

986
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: Get out of the chair. It's too fir human that

987
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: was waiting for. They made a movie out of this

988
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: game would be called unwanted. J Cutler's best best player

989
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: in the world is just kind of running around for

990
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: a while and throwing it up deep to outside. Jeff

991
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Now he can do that again. It looks like it's

992
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: totally different offense though with a Sean in it. I

993
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: mean you can see the marked right was back. I

994
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: mean that helps that. That bad with the Bears is

995
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: they're they're competitive every week now because Jay Cutler is involved,

996
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: and we were talking about this team is like a

997
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: fourteen lost team when he was hurt. I agree with

998
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: Colleen on Jeffrey though, because the Bears chiefs. I watched

999
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: that on game Pass on Saturday and fell asleep in

1000
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: my chair watching it. Were involved, Well, there they were,

1001
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: but this is either a different office with are you

1002
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: but his two plays at the end of the game

1003
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: where maybe two Cutler plays of all time. You're talking

1004
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: about Cutler. It's a football game that's sixty minutes long.

1005
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: The first fifty nine minutes were an absolute disaster. I

1006
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: knew that you are a quiet closet Jay Cutler supporter,

1007
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: quiet about it. I've been supporting him a deck. I'll

1008
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: tell you what you're Patriots fan and go put Jake

1009
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: Cutler on your Patriots and see how you like that.

1010
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: Four games Cutlers on Mount Rushmore, that mountain's gonna crumble.

1011
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: I did not expect to see old Sessler fire eyes

1012
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: talking about Cutler out of nowhere. You shot some fires.

1013
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: It's not I just think it's easy to say that

1014
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: you have all this love of Jay Cutler when he's

1015
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: there's still two and four. They're going to always be

1016
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: a team that his para and nothing important happens with

1017
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: him at quarterback. Name his big victories. Give me three

1018
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: big Jake Coulor victories or one you want to play,

1019
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: but he's just not as he just doesn't get that done.

1020
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: Got out played by Caleb Hainey in a playoff game. Yeah, well,

1021
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: is there anything else we need to know about this game?

1022
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: Clings defense gave up over five and forty totally are

1023
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: that's right? They've been playing well? Yeah, I think it's

1024
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: because nobody has the same drives. They scored too quickly.

1025
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: They had been playing well, so now they have nothing

1026
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: to hold on. Good news, Mark. As we move on,

1027
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens continue to slip off the radar radar anymore.

1028
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: They gone. They're latest set by came at the Big

1029
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: Bell Bottom and it ain't happen in Berlin. So give

1030
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: it off where the only ones keeping it going. Where

1031
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick threw two touchdown passes to lead the forty

1032
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: Niners to twenty win over John Harbo's team. Mark we

1033
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: forked the Ravens playoff chances last week. Uh, no regrets

1034
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: after what we saw today. No, I mean, it's really

1035
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: only Baltimore Secondary can turn Colin Kaepernick into a functional quarterback.

1036
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: He played his best game of the year by far.

1037
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Tore Smith even got a ball well. And that's the

1038
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: saddest thing because outside of Steve Smith, who he I

1039
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: think with kind of injury he had, I don't think

1040
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: we would even be getting out of bed is Eventually

1041
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: a broken back came in and every time he's on

1042
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: the field for the Baltimore he's the heart and soul

1043
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: of that entire team. But you watch an Kwan Bolden

1044
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: and Tori Smith each yards for Tory Smith, a hundred

1045
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: and two for bold And these were your receivers a

1046
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: few years ago. Now they're making plays for the forty

1047
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: Niners and there's nothing outside of Crockett Gilmore and Steve

1048
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Smith in Baltimore or flack of got any tough to

1049
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: watch those two guys scoring it's a little bit, you know.

1050
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: It's I guess you're not allowed to really say this

1051
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: because he's done so much, but Ozzie Newsom should get

1052
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: a little heat. You would think, right, you got this

1053
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, your painting twenty million a year, and you

1054
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: didn't give him, you didn't give him the team. Well,

1055
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: you must have read my post because it was I think. Well,

1056
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: I might have erased it in the end, but it's basically,

1057
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: I feel like this front office put this team together

1058
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: poorly this season. There's no way around it. In the past,

1059
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: Baltimore has had what appeared to be weaknesses on paper

1060
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: and they shore it up and they're still going to

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00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: win eleven or twelve games. There are distinct weaknesses with

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00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: this team. Really. The secondary is an absolute Every week

1063
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: on the couch, m j D and I tell her

1064
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: both were referring to Flacco as a check down quarterback,

1065
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: which isn't exactly what you want to hear. He said

1066
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: that what his game works best when he has someone.

1067
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: I guess you could say this about any quarterback, but

1068
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: when ray Rice was there, that's when Joe Flacco could

1069
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: be his most effective. He had someone to check it down.

1070
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: To he doesn't have that. That is clearly not with

1071
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: their offenses. Correct that they said that and it's not true.

1072
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: They also laughed at me when I said that Brian

1073
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: Horror would start another game this year because Ryan Mounts

1074
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: don't cross west. We got to get Sally Wilcox's in

1075
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: the studio because he he laughed at Greg when he

1076
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: first came in around the NFL television show which we

1077
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: used to be on. Um. He laughed at Greg when

1078
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Greg questioned Peyton Manning and then he disappeared. Let you

1079
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: were on this past Thursday, and they Sally was nowhere

1080
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: to be found. But they called that knockout t KO

1081
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: or they gotta try out someone else next week to

1082
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: defend Peyton Manning against you wait, hold on, how bad

1083
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: is Levi Stadium turf? Justin Tucker was foot like sunk

1084
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: into the field on that kick and he ended up missing.

1085
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: It's happened over and over that one of those fields

1086
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: against site of Super Bowl fifty. The kicker's foot disappeared

1087
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: in the turf when he planted like a giant like

1088
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: grass divot flies across space after he tried to you know,

1089
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: it was it was embarrassing, Yeah, it's a tough thing

1090
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: because they've they built up that stadium too for so

1091
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: long of like it's got all these twenty one century

1092
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, innovations of the fan experience and everything is different,

1093
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: like you know when you're at the game. But you know,

1094
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: we can't, you know, make graphy has been a little overrated.

1095
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: They better calling Carl Speckler to head up that ground. Croupy,

1096
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: Bill Murray and Caddy set I thought you were ever

1097
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: twenty minutes on the watch. We'll get one of those

1098
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: references from talking Jim Toma, was that is there, George Toma.

1099
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: They used to really have kind of a field expert

1100
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: who would go around to the NFL field and pick

1101
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: them up. T can we get like some uh some

1102
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: type of signal or bell? Whenever West makes a dated

1103
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: cultural reference, we'll work on that, Okay, cool, I think

1104
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: that was or eight one a long time ago. But

1105
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: I did how about I did get the pee wee

1106
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Herman dance today from Steve Smith. I did recognize that

1107
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: timeless though I felt like that was in Caddyshack time.

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00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: Oh no, I forgot Dan hated Caddy. I am a

1109
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: little anti Caddy Shack. I don't know, I just never

1110
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: connected with me. It doesn't mean it's not good. Let's

1111
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: move on. Yeah, I think it'd be good to move on.

1112
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: Do you wait? Do you like not particularly? It's fine? Greg, Yeah,

1113
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. That's not a glowyor well.

1114
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't think of when's the last time. It's like,

1115
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: how can you have an opinion about anything you haven't

1116
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: seen in the last ten years. I think they also

1117
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: be thrown out the window. What about airplane? I love airplanes.

1118
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: I have seen it, so there you go. But I've

1119
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: seen that recently and I still know that I like.

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00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I love it, Caddy Check. I feel like if I

1121
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: watched it now, I might not love its your thoughts,

1122
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Caddischeck one of my top five favorite comedies, and I

1123
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: think you know you're not alone slightly on American If

1124
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: you don't like it, it is you take a lot

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00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: of jabs west at um sports writers. I do. Yeah,

1126
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorites. Like activities. The thing like

1127
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: sports writers, what they really like to do is listen

1128
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: to Bruce Springsteen and watch Caddy Shack. I love to

1129
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: do that also, but I don't like staying around all

1130
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: day quoting Caddy check and telling people how great Bruce,

1131
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: you would just like us to carve seven minutes out

1132
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: of the podcast to discuss it. It's about me. I

1133
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: don't think that I've been the one discussing marks in

1134
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: a rush, markets in a rush late in these Sundays.

1135
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: He wants to get out of anywhere possible. So let's

1136
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: move on to your old friend, Brian Hory or whore.

1137
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: With three touchdown passes, all of them a third down,

1138
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: and the Texans approved to two and four with at

1139
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: over the Jaguars West, the struggle for progress continues for

1140
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: one in five Jacksonville. Yeah, Blake Bortles is on pace

1141
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: now for four and three fifty yards and thirty five

1142
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns and about three hundred backbreaking interceptions. I mean these

1143
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: their offense moves the ball. They look pretty explosive at times.

1144
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: But he had a backbreaking interception right before halftime, had

1145
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: another interception in the second half that that was really hurtful,

1146
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: and missed a couple of wide receivers who were wide

1147
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: open for potential long touchdowns. So I think as well

1148
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: as he's playing, he's not helping them in the wind column.

1149
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: At some point their progress is faced with reality, which

1150
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: is that if you're ranking teams based on results, their

1151
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: number thirty two right now because they just lost to

1152
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Texans in back to back weeks,

1153
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: therefore doesn't get worse than that, which is tie for

1154
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: the worst worst spot. And part of and the problem

1155
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: now too is let's say Bortles continues to make progress,

1156
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: but they go three and thirteen and manage or front

1157
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: office decides they need to start fresh with the GM

1158
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: and coach. Then Bordles has to start over the and

1159
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: once you get into that situation, that's how progress gets stunted.

1160
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the offense because watching the Bucks game

1161
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: and then this parts of this one that the offense

1162
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: feels close. There are a lot of these long piece

1163
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's interesting that it's the defense on

1164
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: a Gust Bradley team that had no pass rush last

1165
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: week when they needed it. There's no distinct element to

1166
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: this defense that sets it apart, and your years into

1167
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Gus Gus Bradley's program, So I put it on the coach.

1168
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't help that Blake Borls is also the team's leading

1169
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: rusher today. Yeah, if they don't get t J yelden Back.

1170
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean Toby Garrhardt and den Ard Robinson, they're not

1171
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: going to get it done. They're back to where they

1172
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: were last year on the ground and this is that's

1173
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: a disaster. West is DeAndre Hopkins the best wide receiver

1174
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: in the league that nobody talks about. Yeah, he's like

1175
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson and Golden Tape used to be before people

1176
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: figured out they were good. DeAndre Hopkins is incredible. Hey,

1177
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: he made a bunch of circus catches today. He saw

1178
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: it pace for a hundred and forty catches two thousand

1179
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: yards in thirteen touched with the worst quarterback situation in

1180
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, the guy is unbelievable. And he's also

1181
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: has more targets at this point in the season than

1182
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: any wide receiver since Brian Lawyers. Like last five and

1183
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: a half quarters are sterling though that's fair. I mean,

1184
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: he's he was amazing today last week and good this week.

1185
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: He it was facing the Jaguars defense which made the

1186
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: Buccaneers look good last year, and he has benefit of

1187
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: Arian Foster to help move the change. But that being said,

1188
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: he's so much better than Ryan Mallett. Yeah, I mean, Howyer,

1189
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: they probably should have. If this season isn't gonna go

1190
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: anywhere for Houston, they probably won't because Brian Hoyer, even

1191
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: if he started sixteen games, they weren't going to go off.

1192
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: But they probably should add a little more patience in

1193
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: hindsight because and half quarters that was so. But if

1194
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: we think Andy Dalton is gonna come back to I

1195
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: guarantee Brian Hoyer does. They're not gonna face Jacksonville every week.

1196
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on another team that needed a win.

1197
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell for President, make America great again. Dan Campbell,

1198
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: the hulking interim coach, looked like a genius in his debut,

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Speaker 1: turning the Dolphins into a ground and down beast and

1200
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: a win over the Titans. Colleen Well, the Dolphins lose

1201
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: another game with the teal incredible hulk wearing a heads um. Yes,

1202
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: but Dan Campbell, first of all, I felt like the

1203
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: orange collar he had on that polo was extra bright

1204
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: after they won. He was, I know, but it was

1205
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: just like he was radiating. I think after the comments

1206
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: that he was worried about throwing up on his shoes

1207
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing before leading into the game. Um, the

1208
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: way that the defense responded in This was one of

1209
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: my biggest takeaways because they only had one sack coming

1210
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: into this game combined as a team, and just in

1211
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: the first half alone they had four sacks, five and

1212
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: a half sacks, and Cam Wake had four of them,

1213
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: so they were I mean, defensive line woke up such

1214
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: a difference from what we've seen this entire season. And

1215
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean Ryan Tannehill, he didn't really respond any differently,

1216
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: but that defensive line did. And all right, so Dan

1217
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: Campbell's Joe Joe philmen sitting at home watching NTV, like, hey, great,

1218
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Cameron Wake are best player by far, is healthy again?

1219
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Gets four sacks and this clown in in a tight

1220
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: shirt gets all the credit for it, like he had

1221
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: anything to do and motivated the Oklahoma drill did the job.

1222
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: Give me a brighter collar, Lamar Miller, Miller, Joe Bibbs.

1223
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you give the guy that was like a top

1224
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: ten running back in the league last year the rock

1225
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: and over a hundred yards. I mean, I didn't think

1226
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: we were going to see that, but he had more

1227
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: yards in this game than he had in combined the

1228
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: last three games. So he's finally running the ball and

1229
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: that's what they need to do. If they have him

1230
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: and he can do that, why aren't they running the

1231
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: ball more? And there was a little bit of controversy

1232
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: with a low hit on Arcus Mariotta of the Titans

1233
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: after the After the game, Ken wizzen Hunt, who might

1234
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: not be long for this job in Tennessee, he had

1235
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: this to say about a hit by Vernon on the

1236
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: defensive line of the Dolphins. I think it was bs.

1237
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: I think it should be taken out of the game.

1238
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: That's not that's not the way you play football. I

1239
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: think it was done with the idea of trying to

1240
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: heard our quarterback, and that's that's football, showing some fight.

1241
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: Good job, Ken, Yeah, your thoughts. Connor work covered this

1242
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: game for us and mentioned several times that he thought

1243
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: the Titans should have taken Marcus Mariotta out of the

1244
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: game because he was getting battered around so much in

1245
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: that the offensive line was getting clown suited by Cameron Wake,

1246
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,959
Speaker 1: you know, and he got hurt. It appeared he was down,

1247
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: It looked terrible. It looked like he was gonna come out,

1248
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: and then he stayed in there. He showed some toughness,

1249
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: but maybe I wasn't on you know, Is that worried

1250
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: about him. This was the time to call off the dots,

1251
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: and he did. Eventually he put in Mettenberger when they

1252
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: were down I think seventeen in the fourth quarter, but

1253
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: he had to wear a knee brace when he went

1254
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: back into He said that Vernon apologized afterwards, which I

1255
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: know carries a whole lot of week. But I mean,

1256
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: the Titans are Workville, right because we were hanging on

1257
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: during their body's got to get together. Well, we'll talk

1258
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. We can discuss. I know where my vote goes,

1259
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: because again, this is a THEFC South team that has

1260
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: zero going on when it counts. Retire to our conference room.

1261
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: Got some Danish, some coffee where that's only in the

1262
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: basement next to them. It's in the basement of the Alamo. See,

1263
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 1: I could do eighties references as well. Well, it's weird

1264
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: how you're just excluding Colleen automatically. I think it's worth,

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Speaker 1: you know, inviting her to the committee. I vote for.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what we can use. It's our

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Speaker 1: boys club. We'll buy one more day Dames in the club. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know cancer in the podcast man business. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Colleen is welcome. We can save some Danish extra one, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by one more so nice of you, thank you. I'd

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Speaker 1: love Danish. What does that you have to say? I

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Speaker 1: don't care, Sir Colleen. You've done it again. You've done

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Speaker 1: it again. You've come in here, you delivered insight, you

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Speaker 1: delivered some um, you know, keen insight on the games.

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Speaker 1: You've you've brought in some humor. Please keep going. You

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Speaker 1: really you're charming. Thank you charming coming here inside and

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Speaker 1: keen inside. It's important, very different. So, uh, we will

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Speaker 1: see you again next week. And um, so that's it, Colleen.

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Speaker 1: As Colleen heads out the Wolf Woman, our attention to

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Speaker 1: Sunday night football, the Indianapolis Colts at home against the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. You guys, you know there's there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of heat, little backstory in this one, something

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: about deflated football's or were they west. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: that first, now, just kidding, Let's just talk. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the game, the Colts and the Patriots, and uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a game. Tom Brady throws over three yards,

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Speaker 1: throws for three touchdowns. The Garrett Blunt rushes for ninety

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Speaker 1: yards and a touch The Pats jump ahead, stay ahead,

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Speaker 1: end up winning the game um by a final score

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Speaker 1: of thank you thirty four seven. My computer shutting down

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Speaker 1: like my sinus cavity right now. But you know, this

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Speaker 1: is a game that was a close game, and surprisingly close.

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Speaker 1: People thought this would be the biggest blot in history

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Speaker 1: eighty burger talk going around. But this was a six

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Speaker 1: point game with late in the third quarter when Chuck

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Speaker 1: Bugano called to play that quite frankly, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: If things go the wrong way and the and their

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01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,959
Speaker 1: owners acts a certain way, it could cost Chucky's job.

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Speaker 1: He calls a bizarre fake punt attempt attempt involving Griff Whalen,

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Speaker 1: who is, of course, uh the centerpiece of Connor or

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: is uh his Madden Football team? Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what they were trying to do as a fourth and

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01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: three play. If you're watching on YouTube, you could uh

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01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: an NFL now, you could check it out right here.

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: The play is snapped for whatever is an immediately a loscus.

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: There was five Patriots defenders. The Patriots quickly take over

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: score again that ended up being all they needed. They

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Speaker 1: gave up a late score thirty seven final Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: listen thrown a bease if you will not what you're

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Speaker 1: looking for in terms of a blowout that made the

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Speaker 1: cultural terror. Wasn't looking for a blowout. Great, you go

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Speaker 1: to play one of your biggest rivals from the last decade.

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Speaker 1: Although it's been a one sided rivalry ever since Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck's been there, they haven't won a game. This was

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Speaker 1: the closest game, and they pretty much did what they

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Speaker 1: wanted to do on offense. If it wasn't for Julian

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Speaker 1: Edelman's drop that turned into a pick six, this game

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Speaker 1: maybe doesn't look quite as close in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: that with that play, it was all the enjoyment I

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Speaker 1: needed at it tonight. That was and that will be

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Speaker 1: the narrative for you know, obnoxious Pats fans is that well,

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01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: we got that trick play and that's all we needed.

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Speaker 1: But it was very embarrassing by the cults. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was it was the play that that's how this

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Speaker 1: game will ultimately be remembered. I mean we saw on

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Speaker 1: television the Chuck boganos seemed to mouth to Griff Whale

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Speaker 1: and afterwards like why did you snap that? Because it's well,

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Speaker 1: we'll have to hear more from the coach himself, but

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Speaker 1: it seems like they were trying to draw the Patriots

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Speaker 1: off sides. They jumbled the defense around. They got a

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01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: little bit caught off guard. But the Patriots are wise.

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Speaker 1: They kept five guys right home over griff Whale and

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Speaker 1: when he snapped it, they just smothered him and it

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Speaker 1: was over. And then they then from there the Killers,

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Speaker 1: they just marched in for a touchdown. To what end.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what the Colts were doing on

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Speaker 1: that play. I am genuinely curious to hear the philosophy

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Speaker 1: behind that formation. Well, maybe maybe Griff Whalen, who has

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Speaker 1: been the enterpiece of Connor's Madden team, Uh it's a

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Speaker 1: Patriots post to flate Gate team that maybe moving to

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01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: another city. Maybe he's maybe he was secretly trying to

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Speaker 1: win this game for the Patriots. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: this all makes sense between the two worlds. But like

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Speaker 1: griff Will, Whalen did get a touchdown later in the game.

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Speaker 1: So the Colts aren't even allowed to set up in

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Speaker 1: that formation. Apparently, why would they even try it was?

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Speaker 1: It was one of the worst plays in special teams

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Speaker 1: history that you could ever ever think of. But it's

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Speaker 1: got a distracted from the fact that Andrew Luck really

1350
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: struggled in the second half. Maybe he's not healthy, maybe

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: he is, but he was spraying passes. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's the most accurate quarterback, at least compared to the quarterbacks.

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01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: He's at the same level of you know, the top

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: five to ten quarterbacks. He's not always the most accurate,

1355
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: but he was spraying passes. I think it's fair to

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: ask if he if his shoulders not back to strength yet,

1357
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Speaker 1: because he didn't. It's not the same guy that we've

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Speaker 1: seen before. He guessn't play well all year. That's true

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Speaker 1: before before the string shoulder. I didn't think he was

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Speaker 1: throwing well in the season opener or Week two. Had

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Speaker 1: a good first drive where they go down to the

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Speaker 1: field and they have short passes, but the Patriots seemed

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Speaker 1: to kind of figure out how to drop another guy

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Speaker 1: underneath and when you took away the first read. This

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Speaker 1: isn't what the Luck that we've seen that when you

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Speaker 1: take away the first read he gets flammix. But that

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Speaker 1: that's what was happening. It seems like with the Patriots

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Speaker 1: every week too. They know they did a pretty good

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: job on Rob Minkowski held to fifty yards, but when

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Speaker 1: that happens one of the other chess pieces blows up.

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Speaker 1: Danny al Mendola has a big night. It just seems

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Speaker 1: like every week it's a revolving star for this team,

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Speaker 1: no matter what they do. In the defensive line really

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Speaker 1: got a lot of pressure unluckily in the game. One

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Speaker 1: of my favorite moment, I know this is gonna sound

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Speaker 1: like a homer late in the game, Tom Brady, it's

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Speaker 1: second and four, they're trying to kill the clock and

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Speaker 1: he has an unbelievably bad delay of game. Did you

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01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: guys see that unbelievably bad delay of game coming out

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Speaker 1: of a Colts time out? And he wasn't even close

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01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: to snapping the ball, And you can see Belichick in

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: the headset going g D Tommy, you know what the

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: was that? Like he was getting asson. He's getting pissed

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: at Tom Brady because it was a terrible mistake with

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Speaker 1: three minutes left in the game. It's like, that's why

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Speaker 1: I like the Here come the trumpets and the page boys.

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01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: As Greg gets carried around the New England Territory children

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Speaker 1: with grapes and a harp sun. The sun has a

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Speaker 1: face and it's smiling down upon the throne of ease,

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Speaker 1: and you know what next week five and oh Pats

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Speaker 1: four and one Jets, that will be fun. On the

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Speaker 1: other side, the Colts now they're three and three, which

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Speaker 1: is okay when you're playing the a f C South,

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Speaker 1: but you have you have New Orleans at home and

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Speaker 1: the Saints. We're not gonna go crazy about the Saints,

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: but they could they could be frisky in that spot.

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Speaker 1: And then you go at Carolina that's an undefeated team,

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01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 1: and then home to Denver. Be careful, be careful. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: this they could spiral on it. They could win this

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Speaker 1: division at seven and nine. Be careful. A t NFL

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 1: podcast who's already forked the Texans and has the Jaguars

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: lined up for forking, then think about the Titans division.

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Speaker 1: That's how we got in trouble last year. We fourked

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Speaker 1: everyone but the Saints last year in the NFC South

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: and then we got banged. I don't know, I mean, oh,

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01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: watch out, like that could spire a lot of control

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01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: because and they could be three and five, is I

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01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: guess what you're saying. Maybe they could be six. They

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: could be first of all, the Saints on the road.

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01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: You know, let's not let's let's not get carried away.

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: They lost to the Eagles by twenty nine the last

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Speaker 1: time they were on the road. Uh, and so what

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Speaker 1: if they were three and six? Three and six is

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Speaker 1: very likely first place in the a f C S. Absolutely,

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: that's a great division. Guess anything else. West will give

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Speaker 1: you the last word on this game. Pats win. Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. I need to be here, well said, I

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Speaker 1: could use one as well. That is our Sunday Nights Spectacular.

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01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: We covered every game. Uh and it was a great

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: job by all. The effort was there execution We'll have

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Speaker 1: to listen back to know, but the effort I could tell.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was totally involved. So that's it. Um. We will

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Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday with another week of shows. Mark

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Speaker 1: the wheel goes round and round and round. So we

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,799
Speaker 1: will talk about the Monday night game preview, Thursday Night Football,

1426
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: the news, all the fun stuff. Mark will be on

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: his way to London by then. Well yeah, I have

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: fun game time decision. Then you're leaving them good. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's what lies ahead. But until then, this is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansens signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman,

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Speaker 1: the Pop, the Boss, TV and everybody else. Behind the

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Speaker 1: Glass Tuesday,