WEBVTT - Dancing with…Peta Murgatroyd 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:18.720 Welcome to Danielle Wick, a podcast slowly transforming like a 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.880 young caterpillar looking to fly. I am Danielle Fischel, a 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.479 TV director, a podcaster, a mom of two, a former 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.840 ballroom dancer, and the new owner of the teen Beat trademark, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.680 an element of my new podcast, debuting in January right 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.440 here on this feed. But first, before we fully flip 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.960 the switch, I'm still on the prowl interviewing some of 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.159 my favorite personalities from the Dancing with the Stars universe, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.599 hoping to get a closer look at the phenomenon that was. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:49.880 Season thirty four. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.000 I am just weeks away from joining the show's live tour, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.120 where I will. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.000 Travel city to city for about thirty. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.760 Days, hosting and dancing all of the country, and once 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.480 in Canada, acting like some sort of fox trotting circus. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:05.920 Carney. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.880 Sure, I'm a little nervous, but at least I'll be 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.000 crammed in a small bus with some of my absolute 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.200 favorite people and living off just protein shakes, peanut butter 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.480 and rice cakes. But in the meanwhile, I'm continuing to 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.039 talk to past contestants and professionals from the twenty year 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.160 history of the show and today I am sitting down 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.560 with one of the best and most outspoken legacy superstars 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.960 who may not have been in the ballroom every week 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.120 this year, but I was just as glued to her 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.920 social media as I was the three judges' scores. After 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.479 growing up, winning numerous dance championships and completing a run 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.200 on Broadway, she joined Troop in season twelve and then 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.200 was upgraded to Pro a year later, and it didn't 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.040 take long for her presence to be felt. She won 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.800 the coveted mirror Ball in just her second season alongside 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.000 former football player Donald Driver and became one of the 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.840 most popular dancers. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.000 On the show. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.080 Later paired with fan favorites like James Maslow, Nick Lache 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.639 and Tommy Chong, and her mirror ball got a friend 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.679 in season twenty two, when she finished first again, this 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.720 time with model Nile DeMarco. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:18.960 She left the show in twenty twenty. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.360 Three and entered an entrepreneur era with her own self 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.239 tanning line, Peta Jane, and now just launched a podcast, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.360 The Penthouse with Peta A bit of a lightning rod 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.520 for attention this past season thanks to some hot takes 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:37.320 and her husband, another former pro, Max Schmerkovsky, who has 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.800 never once said out loud, I don't have an opinion 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.920 on that, and we love him for it. And the 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.760 rest of her family tree is still very much on 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.040 the dance floor because her sister. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.320 In law and brother in law are a little. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:55.400 Duo you might know as Jenna Johnson and Valschmerkovsky. So 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.600 this week I'm excited to welcome to Danielle with one 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.920 of my all time fits. It's Peter Murgatroyd. Peter, thank 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.240 you so much for sitting down with me. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:06.240 Thank you. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:11.160 You have always been one of my favorite dancers. No, truly, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.800 you have always been one of my favorite dancers. I 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.360 can never take my eyes off of you. But then 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.760 this past season I had so much fun listening to 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.040 your podcast and getting to see you and recognize you 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.360 as an incredible host. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.840 Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you, honestly. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.960 Thank you. You really very much impressed me. Thank you. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:36.080 I honestly, that wasn't something that was kind of on 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.920 my dream board, wish list or anything. I was approached 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.080 by a couple of producers and they were like, listen, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.680 like let's do a female led podcast, and let's see 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.800 how it goes, and if you love it, like it? 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.200 And again I was very. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.040 Is it the word trepid, just like tredacious, trepidaceous. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.640 Going into it, I was like, oh my god, what 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.040 if I suck like I What if I can't remember 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.440 my questions? What if I can't segue into the next 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.160 you know what I mean? I had never trained it. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.040 I've never trained in hosting nothing right, but. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.960 It's been really fun and meeting new people that come in, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.400 like all the different you know, celebrities and stuff. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.200 It's been really fun. Well, you're really good at it. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.040 And before we get into your story, I wanted to 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.360 touch on this past season a little bit. Yeah, it 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.800 really seems the show just has seemed to have been 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.719 catapulted into a new pop culture realm. Why do you 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.680 think this twenty year old show has had such a 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.240 big new audience and has felt Has it felt different 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.000 to you this year? 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:41.119 Yeah? 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.480 I mean okay, so if we go way back, this 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.520 show was birthed just purely on ballroom dancing, right. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.320 Just the very basics. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.719 I mean, have you ever seen the first stage that 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.120 they ever created? I mean, compared to what we have now, 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.599 it's just like it's on another level. I think why 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:04.960 it's stayed so popular and so amazing for people to 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.920 watch is because everybody can watch. The generational people. I mean, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:13.440 it's it's literally from like babies to grandparents are watching 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:18.240 our show. And dance gives people hope, It makes you 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.120 feel something, It makes people happy. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.560 When you enjoy us when you watch it. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.679 I mean, there's nothing better than watching two people dance 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.920 together and like getting down and like it's so fun. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.440 I mean, you know you would have had the best 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.560 time with Pash. He's the best. He is amazing. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.400 Yeah, I mean, and now it's just it's on another 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.760 level with social media. I think it was not this season, 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.840 but the one before where we started doing all the stuffs. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.240 That's when it all started, right when it started to explode. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.560 This season just blew it out of the water, right, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:52.200 you're right. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.200 Last season, Alona was one of the people who was 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.760 really helped helped bring in the TikTok and social media 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.200 again to the show. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.800 And Riley she was really heavy on TikTok at that year, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.600 so she did an amazing job. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:11.479 You're right, You're right, Riley Ezra bringing in this young 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:16.240 TikTok kind of generation was very influential in opening the 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:21.200 show up to a whole new generational kids. It amazes me, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.479 like you said, the show being generational. Both sets of 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:30.159 my grandparents loved the show. And now when I go out, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.960 having done season thirty four, the amount of anywhere from 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.440 six to twelve year olds that come up and say, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.679 are you on Dancing with the Stars? Wow, the young kids. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.599 So kids that aren't even on TikTok. But it's amazing 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.679 to me how many young kids love it and people 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:49.320 can sit with. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.480 Their families and watch it and have a great time. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.560 I think it's just I like the evolution of the show. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.880 I think there's been some mistakes in the past, Like 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.320 I forget season maybe thirty third he won the late eight, 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.720 twenty eight, twenty nine, like that was kind of our 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.800 dipping a point where it was like, oh, are we 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.760 going to go off the air, Like we don't know, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.240 and then it just rose again, and you know, with 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.360 Conrad Green Dina behind it obviously for so many years, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.120 Conrad really brought it back to what it was and 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:20.480 just on another level. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:25.320 Yeah, exactly, Puppernochnoch, I have a very loaded question for you. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:29.480 Okay, did they get the winner right this season, I 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.840 believe that I knew he was going to win. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:37.360 Yeah, from the very beginning, I felt like, yeah, I 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.800 feel like he was the whole round package that people 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.240 love and adore, that Australian accent, that he's so kind 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:46.000 and lovable. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.200 Yes, and he nailed his dancers. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:54.240 I mean, you rarely get given that gift of a partner, 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.920 you know, and when you get it, you know you 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:57.720 got it right. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:58.760 You know, you have. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.400 A big job, that's and big shoes to feel you 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:08.120 have to complete incredible dances every single week. In saying that, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:14.480 Alex and Val surprised me so much. In the beginning, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.160 I was like, she's good. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:16.840 Uh huh. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.840 As it went on, I'm like, wow, Okay, she is 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.920 coming out of her shell. She is a beautiful, stunning 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.000 human to look at it. And then on top of that, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.080 she was acting. She was giving it more and I 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.079 mean her freestyle was my favorite. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.120 Of the night. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.280 I mean, she it could have been either one because 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.320 they both have a lot of fans too, and that's 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.920 at one stage, I was honestly thinking, oh, Alex can 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.040 take this well. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.440 So it was it was kind of like one of 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:53.320 these ones. But Robert I think from the beginning, the guy, Yeah, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.720 it was his to lose. I think that's the way. 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.760 Yeah, I thought of it from that first week when 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.560 they came out of the gate with just such a 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:07.960 big performance. It was like, Okay, he's obviously very beloved 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.920 and for good reason. Yes, and he's talented and he's 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:11.920 got the showmanship. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.640 Yeah, this is his to lose. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.960 Something would have really needed to go horribly wrong in 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.760 the season for him to lose it, or something incredibly shocking, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.600 but you're right that. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.160 Then toward the end, I was surprised that. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.360 I was like, oh, wow, people creeping up behind humh 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:29.920 alex exactly. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.520 Dylan was great. Wait did he get third? Dylan was fourth, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.000 Jordan was third, and Elane was. I mean, yeah, they're 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.960 all and you were too. Well, thank you. I appreciate it. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:41.560 I thank you. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.120 I appreciate that. What were your thoughts on the judging 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.280 this season? A lot of viewers seemed to be extra 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.559 confused by the guidelines and the consistency, but that also 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.840 happens every year, it does. Yeah, did it seem like 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.800 it was more confusing this year for at least the audience? 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:01.160 For me? 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.559 No, Okay, I didn't feel like it was like, oh 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.720 my gosh, what's happening to the judging. But because I've 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.080 kind of felt that for a while, as in, like 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.360 you need to start lower, That's not my only thing, 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.440 I know. You know, if you see somebody really cannot dance, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.600 they're giving it, they're all and they're great, but they're 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.120 dancing is really terrible. You're going to give them a 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.840 really low score to begin with so they can go somewhere. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.559 Give them a two so they can get to a. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.719 Five by week five or something like that. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:31.440 You know, Yeah, but giving somebody a seven when it's 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.520 clearly a three is just an interesting judging math. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.880 And really, for me, because I completely agree with you, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.480 the hardest part for me is not about the seven 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:43.480 that we just gave them. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.600 It's that then the other people who are getting eights. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:51.440 Yeah, but they're not only one point apart. It would 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.640 have to be on a scale of maybe to twenty, 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.960 where then I'm comfortable with the seven. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.360 And then that could be in eighteen. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.760 But like, so that's really where that's why those lower 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.280 numbers exist to show the difference. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:09.680 I completely agree, And you know, it is up to 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.600 people's artistic expression and. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:12.200 What they love. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.320 You know, Carrie, I might have loved that dance, but 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.440 she's still going to knock you for taking your foot 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:19.800 off the floor, do you know what I mean? 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.360 Which I'm cool with. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.320 If you took your foot off the floor, you're not 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.040 allowed to do a lift in that dance. You should 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.800 be docked for that, you know what I mean. I 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.079 don't have a problem with that. But I think people 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.120 don't understand that everyone's got their idea of what they 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.000 love in a dance and what they don't. Some people 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.679 might want more technicalities. Other people might just want them 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.360 to see showmanship. I just want to see you giving 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.720 it your all and like that rob at spirit, like 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.840 he never let up every single time, you know. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.760 So I don't know. I'm on the fence. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.679 I don't care as long as I think it should 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.240 be consistent, like you can't say then if they did 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.720 do a lift when they're not meant to keep them 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.480 at the high school, then do you know what I mean? 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.280 Like, just just be consistent and then we're all good. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:05.560 I know. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.199 There was one week I think for Robert where there 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.080 was something that happened and Carrie Anne said, you know, 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:14.959 I saw I saw your foot left off the floor. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.480 But who cares? Yeah, there was that finale week or 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:19.600 was that before finale? 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.960 No, it was before finale. It may have been week 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.040 eight or week nine, and it. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.400 Was like, but who cares? 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.200 Because sometimes you just throw that out the window for 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.760 the way something makes you feel. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.640 And I and it is. I do understand that she 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:35.160 is more. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.720 Of the person who wants to be moved emotionally by 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.480 a dance. But then when every other week, or say 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:46.079 the week before, you did dock somebody specifically because they 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.240 took a foot off the floor, it's just yeah, I mean, 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.320 it is subjective. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:50.520 Dancy is key. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:56.200 Yeah, it's funny though in finale. You know, Robert did 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:00.559 make big mistake in the finale, and I believe that 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:06.080 that was because everyone's overworked doing that that dance. I 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.000 forget what it's called now, that instant dance or whatever. Yeah, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.199 I mean that's the only time I have I think 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.880 I've seen him make a really big mistake like that. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.640 And I was and it was in the instant Dance 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:17.320 with the cha. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.440 Yeah, he he went when he wasn't meant to go 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.160 in a New Yorker section And you know what I think, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.120 I said it on my podcast. I was like, I 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.920 don't want to see somebody like Robert make those mistakes 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.600 in a finale. That's only because he's tired, or he 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.320 didn't think right then that in that split second, whatever, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:37.360 I don't want to see that. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.679 I think they were it was too much. But other 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:40.400 people loved it. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.640 Yeah, but it was definitely a lot, and I know 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.800 everybody was very stressed about it. I was in the 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.800 conversation because I was still on the show at the 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.040 time that they were talking to. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:51.679 Us about it. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:56.680 Yeah, and so I just remember being like, wait, I'm sorry, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.560 what and it it felt crazy. And then I obviously 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.240 did not have to I was not in the finale, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.720 but seeing my friends and hearing them talk about it. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.720 And Robert, he had said all season long how much 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:10.880 he didn't like the cha chaw. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.800 It was his number one Achilles heel. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.240 When he pulled that, I could not believe it. I mean, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.560 he did an amazing job anyway, it did just like, yes, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.160 come on, yeah, but you're right. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.960 It's tough to watch somebody who has excelled all season 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.120 long and is rightfully in the finale and then to 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.960 see them make an error that you know, they're like 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.200 embarrassed by that. He would never have normally made had 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.600 he not just been exhausted right well as a penthouse 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.960 with Peter Listener. I think I know the answer here. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.040 But is Dancing with the Star's end goal to find 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:50.280 the best celebrity dancer or the most entertaining celebrity dancer. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.680 I think they try to find the best dancer, but 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.600 I do believe it comes down to the most entertaining person. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:09.320 I won with two non dancers, so you. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:15.880 Know, people vote for who they love and like. At 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.240 the end of the day. Did Donald Drivers I don't know, 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.080 New Yorkers. Were they better than the woman that got 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:27.520 second with Mark Ballas? Probably not, But he won because 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.840 of himself and his personality and the guts and the 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.640 giving that he gave for the whole entire season. And 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.360 I mean he was amazing, but you know, like he 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.760 wasn't the most technically sound dancer on the dance floor. 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.360 We've always we've always had trained dancers come in either 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.760 one or two a season, so I do believe that 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.040 it's the most entertaining. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.760 Yeah, I agree with you. I'll tell you what. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.800 Obviously, Andy Richter was such a big story this season 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.560 and you were paired with Tommy Chong who and Barry 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:04.000 Williams who came in seventh. I wanted to get your 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:09.040 take on Andy's success and also ask you why you 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.760 think Emma was able to be so successful with him. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.479 I think it all starts. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.600 In the beginning and what type of friendship and bond 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.840 that you can create in that first week. I feel 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.440 like I know that the person within that week, as in, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.040 if we're gonna really get along, if it's going to be, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.640 you know, an up and down sort of struggle. Not 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.640 that I've had any body that we've been fighting the 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.840 whole season. Never, I've always had decent partners. But she 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.640 was able to bring out the joy and the best 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.240 in Andy that everybody wants to see because nobody wants 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.400 to see Andy struggle and try to do a perfect 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.200 New Yorker yes or Chutch our luck whatever. Nobody wants 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.640 to see that. We know he can't do it. And 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.400 I'm being really honest right now, Yeah, he can't do it. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.360 So what are you going to do? You have it, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.400 You've been given this amazing, beautiful guy to dance with. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.639 You have to make him be lovable. You have to 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.879 make him smile the entire time, and we have to 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.640 love watching him out there dance with you. Yeah, so 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.840 you have to throw away the dance steps, so to speak, right, 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.119 you know, you put together what you can and you 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.440 do what you can and find out his limits and 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:20.960 you know what he can't do, what he can do, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.080 and what he does best. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.040 Do a lot of that, lean into his strengths, lean into. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.960 The strengths, and then just run with that. I mean, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.760 they had a beautiful partnership. I looked forward to watching 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.840 him every week because I don't necessarily want to see 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.200 a perfect dance every time. And we had a lot 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.160 of your dancing this season, which was amazing yep. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.120 But then when it came to and. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.760 I was like, oh, okay, we have somebody who's just 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.960 in it for the fun. And just like he knows 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.320 too that he is not competing at that level. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.440 He's in his own race, yep, which is cool. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.159 Exactly he's competing against himself. I really saw them also 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.960 when they would get the early on, they had more 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.760 actual critique than I feel like eventually they realized, well, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.040 he's so beloved, let's just keep talking about Wow, it's 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.880 so joyful. And then they stopped really critiquing, like you said, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.159 probably because what else is there to say, where we 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.560 probably reached the limit of what we're going to be 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.600 able to see dance wise. But early on I did 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.000 appreciate when one of them, I believe it was Carrie Anne, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.600 said we are gonna need to see some more steps, 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:25.960 like we're gonna have to have you. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.400 And then the next week he's fairly good. There were 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:30.720 more steps they did. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.679 She really did say like, we're going to give them 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.440 what they asked for, and you saw him pushing himself 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.480 and really trying. My favorite dance of his was I 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.240 literally cried. But when he reached up and grabbed the camera, 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.399 I know, I was like, oh my gosh, I mean, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.359 his little beautiful face and touching that camera. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.640 It was, it was. It was pretty great. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.679 It was nice to have somebody like that this season 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.199 and amongst all the good dances. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.320 Very yes, exactly. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:19:08.200 Yeah. 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:12.560 Now, let's say you are hired as the new showrunner 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.840 of Dancing with the Stars next season. Okay, what are 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.920 the first three things you might change or adjust. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:23.680 Or add? 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.520 You know what? I that instant dance, yeah, okay, the 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.120 top of my head. Right now, as we just spoke 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.320 about it. I would change that to the twenty four 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.919 hour dance. Oh, but that means that we would have 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:37.720 to have a show day. I would bring back the 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.960 Tuesday shows. Great, okay, so get rid of instant dance, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:42.280 you'd bring back. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.120 I'd bring back the second show day. Okay, the results show, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.800 the results show, right, Yeah, because that was that was 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.280 a good time. Yeah, you could be there, although you 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.840 didn't get that time to train, so that took away 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.439 a day of training. But I loved the fact that 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.639 everyone had fun. Yeah, and it was a it was 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.719 a sell a great celebratory day. We had, you know, 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.240 singers come in, artists come in, and we would dance 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.720 for them and it would just be a really fun day. Yes, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:12.040 it ended with an elimination, but that twenty four So 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.480 that twenty four hour dance. So the first day of finale, 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.359 like the Monday night, you would you would do your 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.720 dance and the freestyle, and then you would go straight 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:21.320 to the studio. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.800 You would have three. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.480 Hours, however long it took you to put a dance 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.960 together with your celebrity end at like one two am, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.560 and then you'd come back the next day and perform 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.480 that as they finish the final dance. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:36.880 Usually people all. 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:38.679