Speaker 1: Welcome to Danielle Wick, a podcast slowly transforming like a
Speaker 1: young caterpillar looking to fly. I am Danielle Fischel, a
Speaker 1: TV director, a podcaster, a mom of two, a former
Speaker 1: ballroom dancer, and the new owner of the teen Beat trademark,
Speaker 1: an element of my new podcast, debuting in January right
Speaker 1: here on this feed. But first, before we fully flip
Speaker 1: the switch, I'm still on the prowl interviewing some of
Speaker 1: my favorite personalities from the Dancing with the Stars universe,
Speaker 1: hoping to get a closer look at the phenomenon that was.
Speaker 2: Season thirty four.
Speaker 1: I am just weeks away from joining the show's live tour,
Speaker 1: where I will.
Speaker 2: Travel city to city for about thirty.
Speaker 1: Days, hosting and dancing all of the country, and once
Speaker 1: in Canada, acting like some sort of fox trotting circus.
Speaker 2: Carney.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm a little nervous, but at least I'll be
Speaker 1: crammed in a small bus with some of my absolute
Speaker 1: favorite people and living off just protein shakes, peanut butter
Speaker 1: and rice cakes. But in the meanwhile, I'm continuing to
Speaker 1: talk to past contestants and professionals from the twenty year
Speaker 1: history of the show and today I am sitting down
Speaker 1: with one of the best and most outspoken legacy superstars
Speaker 1: who may not have been in the ballroom every week
Speaker 1: this year, but I was just as glued to her
Speaker 1: social media as I was the three judges' scores. After
Speaker 1: growing up, winning numerous dance championships and completing a run
Speaker 1: on Broadway, she joined Troop in season twelve and then
Speaker 1: was upgraded to Pro a year later, and it didn't
Speaker 1: take long for her presence to be felt. She won
Speaker 1: the coveted mirror Ball in just her second season alongside
Speaker 1: former football player Donald Driver and became one of the
Speaker 1: most popular dancers.
Speaker 2: On the show.
Speaker 1: Later paired with fan favorites like James Maslow, Nick Lache
Speaker 1: and Tommy Chong, and her mirror ball got a friend
Speaker 1: in season twenty two, when she finished first again, this
Speaker 1: time with model Nile DeMarco.
Speaker 2: She left the show in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Three and entered an entrepreneur era with her own self
Speaker 1: tanning line, Peta Jane, and now just launched a podcast,
Speaker 1: The Penthouse with Peta A bit of a lightning rod
Speaker 1: for attention this past season thanks to some hot takes
Speaker 1: and her husband, another former pro, Max Schmerkovsky, who has
Speaker 1: never once said out loud, I don't have an opinion
Speaker 1: on that, and we love him for it. And the
Speaker 1: rest of her family tree is still very much on
Speaker 1: the dance floor because her sister.
Speaker 2: In law and brother in law are a little.
Speaker 1: Duo you might know as Jenna Johnson and Valschmerkovsky. So
Speaker 1: this week I'm excited to welcome to Danielle with one
Speaker 1: of my all time fits. It's Peter Murgatroyd. Peter, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for sitting down with me.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You have always been one of my favorite dancers. No, truly,
Speaker 1: you have always been one of my favorite dancers. I
Speaker 1: can never take my eyes off of you. But then
Speaker 1: this past season I had so much fun listening to
Speaker 1: your podcast and getting to see you and recognize you
Speaker 1: as an incredible host.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you, honestly.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You really very much impressed me. Thank you.
Speaker 3: I honestly, that wasn't something that was kind of on
Speaker 3: my dream board, wish list or anything. I was approached
Speaker 3: by a couple of producers and they were like, listen,
Speaker 3: like let's do a female led podcast, and let's see
Speaker 3: how it goes, and if you love it, like it?
Speaker 3: And again I was very.
Speaker 2: Is it the word trepid, just like tredacious, trepidaceous.
Speaker 3: Going into it, I was like, oh my god, what
Speaker 3: if I suck like I What if I can't remember
Speaker 3: my questions? What if I can't segue into the next
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I had never trained it.
Speaker 2: I've never trained in hosting nothing right, but.
Speaker 3: It's been really fun and meeting new people that come in,
Speaker 3: like all the different you know, celebrities and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's been really fun. Well, you're really good at it.
Speaker 1: And before we get into your story, I wanted to
Speaker 1: touch on this past season a little bit. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really seems the show just has seemed to have been
Speaker 1: catapulted into a new pop culture realm. Why do you
Speaker 1: think this twenty year old show has had such a
Speaker 1: big new audience and has felt Has it felt different
Speaker 1: to you this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean okay, so if we go way back, this
Speaker 3: show was birthed just purely on ballroom dancing, right.
Speaker 2: Just the very basics.
Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever seen the first stage that
Speaker 3: they ever created? I mean, compared to what we have now,
Speaker 3: it's just like it's on another level. I think why
Speaker 3: it's stayed so popular and so amazing for people to
Speaker 3: watch is because everybody can watch. The generational people. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's literally from like babies to grandparents are watching
Speaker 3: our show. And dance gives people hope, It makes you
Speaker 3: feel something, It makes people happy.
Speaker 2: When you enjoy us when you watch it.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing better than watching two people dance
Speaker 3: together and like getting down and like it's so fun.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you would have had the best
Speaker 2: time with Pash. He's the best. He is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and now it's just it's on another
Speaker 3: level with social media. I think it was not this season,
Speaker 3: but the one before where we started doing all the stuffs.
Speaker 3: That's when it all started, right when it started to explode.
Speaker 3: This season just blew it out of the water, right,
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 1: Last season, Alona was one of the people who was
Speaker 1: really helped helped bring in the TikTok and social media
Speaker 1: again to the show.
Speaker 3: And Riley she was really heavy on TikTok at that year,
Speaker 3: so she did an amazing job.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Riley Ezra bringing in this young
Speaker 1: TikTok kind of generation was very influential in opening the
Speaker 1: show up to a whole new generational kids. It amazes me,
Speaker 1: like you said, the show being generational. Both sets of
Speaker 1: my grandparents loved the show. And now when I go out,
Speaker 1: having done season thirty four, the amount of anywhere from
Speaker 1: six to twelve year olds that come up and say,
Speaker 1: are you on Dancing with the Stars? Wow, the young kids.
Speaker 1: So kids that aren't even on TikTok. But it's amazing
Speaker 1: to me how many young kids love it and people
Speaker 1: can sit with.
Speaker 2: Their families and watch it and have a great time.
Speaker 3: I think it's just I like the evolution of the show.
Speaker 3: I think there's been some mistakes in the past, Like
Speaker 3: I forget season maybe thirty third he won the late eight,
Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty nine, like that was kind of our
Speaker 3: dipping a point where it was like, oh, are we
Speaker 3: going to go off the air, Like we don't know,
Speaker 3: and then it just rose again, and you know, with
Speaker 3: Conrad Green Dina behind it obviously for so many years,
Speaker 3: Conrad really brought it back to what it was and
Speaker 3: just on another level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Puppernochnoch, I have a very loaded question for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, did they get the winner right this season, I
Speaker 2: believe that I knew he was going to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from the very beginning, I felt like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: feel like he was the whole round package that people
Speaker 3: love and adore, that Australian accent, that he's so kind
Speaker 3: and lovable.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he nailed his dancers.
Speaker 3: I mean, you rarely get given that gift of a partner,
Speaker 3: you know, and when you get it, you know you
Speaker 3: got it right.
Speaker 2: You know, you have.
Speaker 3: A big job, that's and big shoes to feel you
Speaker 3: have to complete incredible dances every single week. In saying that,
Speaker 3: Alex and Val surprised me so much. In the beginning,
Speaker 3: I was like, she's good.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: As it went on, I'm like, wow, Okay, she is
Speaker 3: coming out of her shell. She is a beautiful, stunning
Speaker 3: human to look at it. And then on top of that,
Speaker 3: she was acting. She was giving it more and I
Speaker 3: mean her freestyle was my favorite.
Speaker 2: Of the night.
Speaker 3: I mean, she it could have been either one because
Speaker 3: they both have a lot of fans too, and that's
Speaker 3: at one stage, I was honestly thinking, oh, Alex can
Speaker 3: take this well.
Speaker 2: So it was it was kind of like one of
Speaker 2: these ones. But Robert I think from the beginning, the guy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was his to lose. I think that's the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought of it from that first week when
Speaker 1: they came out of the gate with just such a
Speaker 1: big performance. It was like, Okay, he's obviously very beloved
Speaker 1: and for good reason. Yes, and he's talented and he's
Speaker 1: got the showmanship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is his to lose.
Speaker 1: Something would have really needed to go horribly wrong in
Speaker 1: the season for him to lose it, or something incredibly shocking,
Speaker 1: but you're right that.
Speaker 2: Then toward the end, I was surprised that.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, wow, people creeping up behind humh
Speaker 3: alex exactly.
Speaker 2: Dylan was great. Wait did he get third? Dylan was fourth,
Speaker 2: Jordan was third, and Elane was. I mean, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: all and you were too. Well, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. What were your thoughts on the judging
Speaker 1: this season? A lot of viewers seemed to be extra
Speaker 1: confused by the guidelines and the consistency, but that also
Speaker 1: happens every year, it does. Yeah, did it seem like
Speaker 1: it was more confusing this year for at least the audience?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 3: No, Okay, I didn't feel like it was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, what's happening to the judging. But because I've
Speaker 3: kind of felt that for a while, as in, like
Speaker 3: you need to start lower, That's not my only thing,
Speaker 3: I know. You know, if you see somebody really cannot dance,
Speaker 3: they're giving it, they're all and they're great, but they're
Speaker 3: dancing is really terrible. You're going to give them a
Speaker 3: really low score to begin with so they can go somewhere.
Speaker 3: Give them a two so they can get to a.
Speaker 2: Five by week five or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, but giving somebody a seven when it's
Speaker 3: clearly a three is just an interesting judging math.
Speaker 1: And really, for me, because I completely agree with you,
Speaker 1: the hardest part for me is not about the seven
Speaker 1: that we just gave them.
Speaker 2: It's that then the other people who are getting eights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not only one point apart. It would
Speaker 1: have to be on a scale of maybe to twenty,
Speaker 1: where then I'm comfortable with the seven.
Speaker 2: And then that could be in eighteen.
Speaker 1: But like, so that's really where that's why those lower
Speaker 1: numbers exist to show the difference.
Speaker 3: I completely agree, And you know, it is up to
Speaker 3: people's artistic expression and.
Speaker 2: What they love.
Speaker 3: You know, Carrie, I might have loved that dance, but
Speaker 3: she's still going to knock you for taking your foot
Speaker 3: off the floor, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Which I'm cool with.
Speaker 3: If you took your foot off the floor, you're not
Speaker 3: allowed to do a lift in that dance. You should
Speaker 3: be docked for that, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: don't have a problem with that. But I think people
Speaker 3: don't understand that everyone's got their idea of what they
Speaker 3: love in a dance and what they don't. Some people
Speaker 3: might want more technicalities. Other people might just want them
Speaker 3: to see showmanship. I just want to see you giving
Speaker 3: it your all and like that rob at spirit, like
Speaker 3: he never let up every single time, you know.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm on the fence.
Speaker 3: I don't care as long as I think it should
Speaker 3: be consistent, like you can't say then if they did
Speaker 3: do a lift when they're not meant to keep them
Speaker 3: at the high school, then do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, just just be consistent and then we're all good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: There was one week I think for Robert where there
Speaker 1: was something that happened and Carrie Anne said, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw I saw your foot left off the floor.
Speaker 2: But who cares? Yeah, there was that finale week or
Speaker 2: was that before finale?
Speaker 1: No, it was before finale. It may have been week
Speaker 1: eight or week nine, and it.
Speaker 2: Was like, but who cares?
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you just throw that out the window for
Speaker 1: the way something makes you feel.
Speaker 2: And I and it is. I do understand that she
Speaker 2: is more.
Speaker 1: Of the person who wants to be moved emotionally by
Speaker 1: a dance. But then when every other week, or say
Speaker 1: the week before, you did dock somebody specifically because they
Speaker 1: took a foot off the floor, it's just yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it is subjective.
Speaker 2: Dancy is key.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny though in finale. You know, Robert did
Speaker 3: make big mistake in the finale, and I believe that
Speaker 3: that was because everyone's overworked doing that that dance. I
Speaker 3: forget what it's called now, that instant dance or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that's the only time I have I think
Speaker 3: I've seen him make a really big mistake like that.
Speaker 2: And I was and it was in the instant Dance
Speaker 2: with the cha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he went when he wasn't meant to go
Speaker 3: in a New Yorker section And you know what I think,
Speaker 3: I said it on my podcast. I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to see somebody like Robert make those mistakes
Speaker 3: in a finale. That's only because he's tired, or he
Speaker 3: didn't think right then that in that split second, whatever,
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2: I think they were it was too much. But other
Speaker 2: people loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was definitely a lot, and I know
Speaker 1: everybody was very stressed about it. I was in the
Speaker 1: conversation because I was still on the show at the
Speaker 1: time that they were talking to.
Speaker 2: Us about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I just remember being like, wait, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: what and it it felt crazy. And then I obviously
Speaker 1: did not have to I was not in the finale,
Speaker 1: but seeing my friends and hearing them talk about it.
Speaker 1: And Robert, he had said all season long how much
Speaker 1: he didn't like the cha chaw.
Speaker 2: It was his number one Achilles heel.
Speaker 3: When he pulled that, I could not believe it. I mean,
Speaker 3: he did an amazing job anyway, it did just like, yes,
Speaker 3: come on, yeah, but you're right.
Speaker 1: It's tough to watch somebody who has excelled all season
Speaker 1: long and is rightfully in the finale and then to
Speaker 1: see them make an error that you know, they're like
Speaker 1: embarrassed by that. He would never have normally made had
Speaker 1: he not just been exhausted right well as a penthouse
Speaker 1: with Peter Listener. I think I know the answer here.
Speaker 1: But is Dancing with the Star's end goal to find
Speaker 1: the best celebrity dancer or the most entertaining celebrity dancer.
Speaker 3: I think they try to find the best dancer, but
Speaker 3: I do believe it comes down to the most entertaining person.
Speaker 2: I won with two non dancers, so you.
Speaker 3: Know, people vote for who they love and like. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day. Did Donald Drivers I don't know,
Speaker 3: New Yorkers. Were they better than the woman that got
Speaker 3: second with Mark Ballas? Probably not, But he won because
Speaker 3: of himself and his personality and the guts and the
Speaker 3: giving that he gave for the whole entire season. And
Speaker 3: I mean he was amazing, but you know, like he
Speaker 3: wasn't the most technically sound dancer on the dance floor.
Speaker 3: We've always we've always had trained dancers come in either
Speaker 3: one or two a season, so I do believe that
Speaker 3: it's the most entertaining.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Andy Richter was such a big story this season
Speaker 1: and you were paired with Tommy Chong who and Barry
Speaker 1: Williams who came in seventh. I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: take on Andy's success and also ask you why you
Speaker 1: think Emma was able to be so successful with him.
Speaker 2: I think it all starts.
Speaker 3: In the beginning and what type of friendship and bond
Speaker 3: that you can create in that first week. I feel
Speaker 3: like I know that the person within that week, as in,
Speaker 3: if we're gonna really get along, if it's going to be,
Speaker 3: you know, an up and down sort of struggle. Not
Speaker 3: that I've had any body that we've been fighting the
Speaker 3: whole season. Never, I've always had decent partners. But she
Speaker 3: was able to bring out the joy and the best
Speaker 3: in Andy that everybody wants to see because nobody wants
Speaker 3: to see Andy struggle and try to do a perfect
Speaker 3: New Yorker yes or Chutch our luck whatever. Nobody wants
Speaker 3: to see that. We know he can't do it. And
Speaker 3: I'm being really honest right now, Yeah, he can't do it.
Speaker 3: So what are you going to do? You have it,
Speaker 3: You've been given this amazing, beautiful guy to dance with.
Speaker 3: You have to make him be lovable. You have to
Speaker 3: make him smile the entire time, and we have to
Speaker 3: love watching him out there dance with you. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: you have to throw away the dance steps, so to speak, right,
Speaker 3: you know, you put together what you can and you
Speaker 3: do what you can and find out his limits and
Speaker 3: you know what he can't do, what he can do,
Speaker 3: and what he does best.
Speaker 2: Do a lot of that, lean into his strengths, lean into.
Speaker 3: The strengths, and then just run with that. I mean,
Speaker 3: they had a beautiful partnership. I looked forward to watching
Speaker 3: him every week because I don't necessarily want to see
Speaker 3: a perfect dance every time. And we had a lot
Speaker 3: of your dancing this season, which was amazing yep.
Speaker 2: But then when it came to and.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, we have somebody who's just
Speaker 3: in it for the fun. And just like he knows
Speaker 3: too that he is not competing at that level.
Speaker 2: He's in his own race, yep, which is cool.
Speaker 1: Exactly he's competing against himself. I really saw them also
Speaker 1: when they would get the early on, they had more
Speaker 1: actual critique than I feel like eventually they realized, well,
Speaker 1: he's so beloved, let's just keep talking about Wow, it's
Speaker 1: so joyful. And then they stopped really critiquing, like you said,
Speaker 1: probably because what else is there to say, where we
Speaker 1: probably reached the limit of what we're going to be
Speaker 1: able to see dance wise. But early on I did
Speaker 1: appreciate when one of them, I believe it was Carrie Anne,
Speaker 1: said we are gonna need to see some more steps,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna have to have you.
Speaker 2: And then the next week he's fairly good. There were
Speaker 2: more steps they did.
Speaker 1: She really did say like, we're going to give them
Speaker 1: what they asked for, and you saw him pushing himself
Speaker 1: and really trying. My favorite dance of his was I
Speaker 1: literally cried. But when he reached up and grabbed the camera,
Speaker 1: I know, I was like, oh my gosh, I mean,
Speaker 1: his little beautiful face and touching that camera.
Speaker 2: It was, it was. It was pretty great.
Speaker 3: It was nice to have somebody like that this season
Speaker 3: and amongst all the good dances.
Speaker 2: Very yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, let's say you are hired as the new showrunner
Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars next season. Okay, what are
Speaker 1: the first three things you might change or adjust.
Speaker 3: Or add?
Speaker 2: You know what? I that instant dance, yeah, okay, the
Speaker 2: top of my head. Right now, as we just spoke
Speaker 2: about it. I would change that to the twenty four
Speaker 2: hour dance. Oh, but that means that we would have
Speaker 2: to have a show day. I would bring back the
Speaker 2: Tuesday shows. Great, okay, so get rid of instant dance,
Speaker 2: you'd bring back.
Speaker 3: I'd bring back the second show day. Okay, the results show,
Speaker 3: the results show, right, Yeah, because that was that was
Speaker 3: a good time. Yeah, you could be there, although you
Speaker 3: didn't get that time to train, so that took away
Speaker 3: a day of training. But I loved the fact that
Speaker 3: everyone had fun. Yeah, and it was a it was
Speaker 3: a sell a great celebratory day. We had, you know,
Speaker 3: singers come in, artists come in, and we would dance
Speaker 3: for them and it would just be a really fun day. Yes,
Speaker 3: it ended with an elimination, but that twenty four So
Speaker 3: that twenty four hour dance. So the first day of finale,
Speaker 3: like the Monday night, you would you would do your
Speaker 3: dance and the freestyle, and then you would go straight
Speaker 3: to the studio.
Speaker 2: You would have three.
Speaker 3: Hours, however long it took you to put a dance
Speaker 3: together with your celebrity end at like one two am,
Speaker 3: and then you'd come back the next day and perform
Speaker 3: that as they finish the final dance.
Speaker 2: Usually people all.
Speaker 3: Got tense for that because it was just you know,
Speaker 3: why would you give somebody an eight on their last
Speaker 3: last dance? Yeah, but yeah, I think I would bring
Speaker 3: that back because it was a really Although we hated
Speaker 3: it in the at the time, in the moment, we're
Speaker 3: just like, come on, like, this is so hard, But
Speaker 3: in hindsight, when I look back at those hard times,
Speaker 3: it was some of the best times.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's much like parenting.
Speaker 1: Yes, every time I've ever taken a trip with my children,
Speaker 1: I have thought it, well, at least one point, never again.
Speaker 1: And then you come home and you look at all
Speaker 1: the photos and you start reminiscing about the tantrum on
Speaker 1: the carousel and the thing, and you're like, in the moment,
Speaker 1: I said never again, But now, yep, I just want
Speaker 1: to do that again.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Another big story of this season ended up being Whitney's elimination.
Speaker 1: Did you see that coming or did you think she
Speaker 1: would for sure be in the finals?
Speaker 3: I thought she would be in the finals. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's because I wasn't so aware. I could
Speaker 3: see people saying, oh, she's getting a lot of hate
Speaker 3: she's getting a lot of hate, but I wasn't aware
Speaker 3: of it because I'm not on TikTok every day scrolling. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't do that to myself. I can't get into
Speaker 3: it like that. It's something that I've never kind of
Speaker 3: grabbed hold of and gravitated to.
Speaker 2: I love Instagram.
Speaker 3: I'm old I have the same with you. Yeah, yeah, TikTok,
Speaker 3: I love, But there was sorry to to sidetrack. There
Speaker 3: was one time where I posted a video of my
Speaker 3: son and I could see all these comments. I just
Speaker 3: remember that taking me back and I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to come on here much anymore. There was one yeah,
Speaker 3: So for me, I didn't see what people were talking
Speaker 3: about and saying. So if I maybe had seen that
Speaker 3: all of what she was getting at that time, maybe
Speaker 3: I could have put two and two together and said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're going to be eliminated soon. But no, yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't see it, so I thought she was going to
Speaker 3: be in the finale.
Speaker 1: I also didn't see it, and I think, I really
Speaker 1: it's made me realize how much like the algorithm really
Speaker 1: very quickly will jump on whatever you have spent any
Speaker 1: sort of time on. Because I was getting only Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars content. Yeah, but I wasn't seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of hateful stuff. But I think there have been
Speaker 1: times that eat both on Instagram and on TikTok, where
Speaker 1: my husband and I will be looking at the same
Speaker 1: video and the top comments are different on both of
Speaker 1: our On our feeds where I'm or I'll see a post,
Speaker 1: I'll screencap the comments and send it to a friend
Speaker 1: and they open it up and go, those aren't those
Speaker 1: aren't the comments I'm seeing?
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 1: I am not sure, but I do think that if
Speaker 1: you see a post and then click on it to
Speaker 1: see more, even like to hate watch something or to
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, it thinks they stick around when
Speaker 1: I show them this type of stuff. So I didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of it, but I knew from Whitney
Speaker 1: because Whitney and I had talked about it a lot.
Speaker 1: She was telling me that it's incessant, vile, yes, And
Speaker 1: so I was still shocked. I thought, there's no way, though,
Speaker 1: that the majority the voting public, the majority of the
Speaker 1: voting public are TikTok haters. Like, what are the odds,
Speaker 1: you know, Like she has to be getting so many
Speaker 1: other votes That's what I was to counteract, right whatever.
Speaker 3: They were not voting for her, they were voting for
Speaker 3: everybody but her, and I didn't see.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that concept. So
Speaker 2: I think that was a new concept this season.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was something people very early on
Speaker 1: put together, like, hey, let's band together and vote for everyone.
Speaker 2: It's terrible. It's so crazy, it's cruel.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't know as of you know,
Speaker 3: watcher of TV shows and stuff like that and other
Speaker 3: reality shows. I can't imagine being on a group.
Speaker 2: Text saying vote for everyone. What this person? I mean,
Speaker 2: who does that? I don't know?
Speaker 1: But I say the same thing about people who ever
Speaker 1: leave negative comments. I have never found myself on a
Speaker 1: video of something and have thought something negative and thought
Speaker 1: I should write I should write this. If I think
Speaker 1: something negative, it's.
Speaker 3: Not for me.
Speaker 2: Move along. Yeah, I just need to write it down.
Speaker 1: When someone tells me they're great brownie recipe, I don't
Speaker 1: need to say I don't like brownies. Okay, go find
Speaker 1: a cookie recipe, then, lady, like, why just I so?
Speaker 2: I you know, I I don't quite get people like
Speaker 2: to share. They do? They do?
Speaker 1: They like their opinions to be known. Now, you are
Speaker 1: a former Blackpool participant. You are a two time amateur
Speaker 1: Latin State champion, a premier finalist in ballroom competitions around
Speaker 1: the world. Your education is absolutely perfect for the show.
Speaker 1: But as we mentioned, it's newfound attention on TikTok, obviously
Speaker 1: producers are turning to some less traditional spaces to find pros.
Speaker 1: Do you think that without a true background in ballroom
Speaker 1: you could win Dancing with the Stars? Sure, Okay, it's.
Speaker 2: Got to do with who.
Speaker 3: You partnered with number one. Okay, So I feel like
Speaker 3: that is a huge plus. If somebody with not so
Speaker 3: much borm training has a clear winner from day one, Yeah,
Speaker 3: if they can get outside help to choreograph and do
Speaker 3: the right thing and can teach somewhat something, then I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can win. I think though the job is a
Speaker 3: very difficult job that people do not understand.
Speaker 2: Nope, not one bit. I was like floored learning.
Speaker 1: I mean, you always know like, oh, yeah, the pros
Speaker 1: are putting all of this together, but then being on
Speaker 1: the inside of it and seeing how much you are
Speaker 1: all tasked with. Yeah, while you're still doing that week,
Speaker 1: prepping the next week, song choices, involvement in wardrobe, production meetings,
Speaker 1: the knowing when the instant dances are coming in, the like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be like three four weeks ahead
Speaker 3: of yourself every single time.
Speaker 2: So like it's not just.
Speaker 3: Oh, let's go into the studio and create, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like that. We are literally like four weeks
Speaker 3: ahead of you. And we're not just a dance teacher.
Speaker 3: We are in on, as you said, everything the wardrobe,
Speaker 3: the song choice, the lighting, I mean creating, not the
Speaker 3: entire set.
Speaker 2: But you know, we know what we need for you
Speaker 2: as for you as a dancer, Like what do you
Speaker 2: need yep? What will look? Will make what?
Speaker 3: What will make Danielle look the best that she can
Speaker 3: possibly look? So and the late nights choreographing for the
Speaker 3: next three weeks. I mean it's you know, sometimes I
Speaker 3: would come home when I was single, I would come home.
Speaker 2: At two am from a dance studio.
Speaker 3: It was it was crazy. I can't do that now
Speaker 3: because of kids. But like it's a lot that people
Speaker 3: do not understand. And celebrities also sign up for the
Speaker 3: show not knowing how much work completely do.
Speaker 1: All the years they had asked me and I and
Speaker 1: it just had never worked out.
Speaker 2: I was always told.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, because I would be like, well, I'm working
Speaker 1: or I'm doing this, and they don't worry. We can
Speaker 1: work around your work schedule.
Speaker 2: Well you can.
Speaker 1: You can rehearse wherever you are if you're gonna and
Speaker 1: thinking like, all right, so then it can't be that
Speaker 1: big of a commitment.
Speaker 2: If they're willing to, like work around my work schedule.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sure you can. If you can, you
Speaker 1: can have a full time job and do dancing with
Speaker 1: the stars if you're comfortable tough, just working literally twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day and or not truly caring what
Speaker 1: kind of what you're putting on, what you're putting out there.
Speaker 2: True, were you working at all?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I gave everything up. I said, this has to be
Speaker 2: my entire life.
Speaker 1: But I still had two children and a household to run,
Speaker 1: and I was doing podcasts. When I say no, I
Speaker 1: wasn't working. I was doing it, yeah, multiple parts, But.
Speaker 2: You weren't on set.
Speaker 1: I was not directing. Noah, how could I have been directing?
Speaker 1: Like in my mind, I thought, thank god, I didn't say, well,
Speaker 1: there's one week I'll be directing a TV show and
Speaker 1: we'll just have to make it work that way.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 3: I haven't had a lot of partners with that. I
Speaker 3: had you Marini.
Speaker 2: Okay, he had to.
Speaker 3: Do some things on set. I forget the show that
Speaker 3: he was filming at the time, but we would rehearse
Speaker 3: on set. He was also really naturally talented, so I
Speaker 3: mean he had also gotten second with Cheryl. I got
Speaker 3: him on an All Star, so he was he was
Speaker 3: already sort of prepped and knew what the thing was.
Speaker 3: But you know, Max, my husband, he had Meryl Davis,
Speaker 3: who he ended up winning with. She was on tour
Speaker 3: and ice skating tour. They weren't even in La. They
Speaker 3: came back to LA for the show and then flew
Speaker 3: straight back out so she could go touring. It was nuts, yeah,
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 2: Was Max on tour with her on tour yeah.
Speaker 3: And same with Shana because she was dancing with Meryll's partner.
Speaker 3: But so they were like a foursome going around America together,
Speaker 3: driving cars to the next city and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: So you don't know who you're going to get with,
Speaker 3: like what, but you kind of hope that you haven't
Speaker 3: got somebody with a travel schedule. Really do because it's
Speaker 3: really hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just and we're all getting sick anyway all
Speaker 1: the time. But now you add travel and like dout
Speaker 1: cities and planes to the mix.
Speaker 2: Yep, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: If a family excluded, if you were a celebrity on
Speaker 1: the show, who do you hope you'd be paired with?
Speaker 2: Family excluded? Family excluded?
Speaker 1: Mm?
Speaker 2: With the people right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the pros on there right now, let's or
Speaker 1: you know what, let's open it up.
Speaker 2: Any of the any of.
Speaker 1: The pros who've been on Family excluded, any of the
Speaker 1: pros who've ever been on the show. Who would be
Speaker 1: your number one choice if you were a celebrity.
Speaker 3: It's really hot, that's really hot. I'm going through like
Speaker 3: this one. That what there's so many factors too, because
Speaker 3: like there are because I'm if you're talking about me,
Speaker 3: I'm told you're tall, so I need Max is the tolest,
Speaker 3: so I can't have him, So I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: go with a glib or an Autumn.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, because they're the next.
Speaker 3: They're the next kind of tallest guys. Yeah, a glib
Speaker 3: or an Autumn.
Speaker 2: I would have to say, Okay, that's good. How tall
Speaker 2: is Artem probably five eleven, yeah or something. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: don't think he's quite six feet okay, but yeah, all right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think those two.
Speaker 3: And for me, I like a tough teacher because I
Speaker 3: grew up with Russian ballet masters, so yeah, I like
Speaker 3: to be pushed, and I think that they would be
Speaker 3: kind of tough on me.
Speaker 1: You think Gleb would be tough, don't I kept trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what kind of teacher Gleb was.
Speaker 2: He's tough? Is he tough?
Speaker 3: He's fun and tough at the same time. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: he speaks so softly. He hasn't got that thing about him,
Speaker 3: but he is tough technically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: During my research I did some math and I realized
Speaker 1: that you were on Broadway as a lead dancer at
Speaker 1: like eighteen years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is quite an achievement. Were you ever nervous
Speaker 2: or intimidated? Yeah? Yeah, oh my god, Yeah, that brings
Speaker 2: me back very much.
Speaker 3: So we were in Perth training that's my hometown, with
Speaker 3: the show burned the floor at the time, getting it
Speaker 3: ready for Broadway. So all the Broadway producers came to
Speaker 3: Perth to like dissect the show and like take out
Speaker 3: this number, put this number there, switch people around like
Speaker 3: where they will be standing, and it was a big
Speaker 3: like ruffle of feathers because we want to get it
Speaker 3: to Broadway.
Speaker 2: But like people were losing parts and people were getting
Speaker 2: changed around and stuff. So it was it was.
Speaker 3: A really chaotic time in my life actually when I
Speaker 3: look back, because yeah, I did have a lot of
Speaker 3: the lead stuff in there. And I remember getting pulled
Speaker 3: into the office and the producers, the Broadway producers sat
Speaker 3: me down and said, look, you know the show rides
Speaker 3: on you, so strap up type of thing.
Speaker 2: Girly.
Speaker 3: You know, we're going to Broadway and you can't have
Speaker 3: a down day. You cannot have a down day.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I did not know what to say.
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, sir, like right, I am your girl,
Speaker 3: Like I will get.
Speaker 2: It done of thing. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a moment in my life where I'm like,
Speaker 3: look back, I'm like, they probably shouldn't have said that
Speaker 3: to me, but yeah, it was. It was an incredible experience,
Speaker 3: Like I wish I could go back and relive those
Speaker 3: six days that we worked our asses off. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: then had the one day off, you know, just to
Speaker 3: recover and lie in bed all day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: Isn' nick just so kind of fun and interesting the
Speaker 1: way life works that like you're able to look back
Speaker 1: on it and you go, wow, one of the most
Speaker 1: chaotic and stressful times of your life. And yet at
Speaker 1: the time you probably felt very much like I've got this.
Speaker 1: Even though you were nervous and intimidated, you were like,
Speaker 1: I can do it, like you said, you were like, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: and then in your mind You're just like, I have
Speaker 1: to do it, and I'm gonna work my off six
Speaker 1: days a week and then I'm gonna lay in bed
Speaker 1: to recover that one day.
Speaker 2: And now here we are, we have kids.
Speaker 1: It's like you say, you know, I used to come
Speaker 1: home at two o'clock in the morning from a dance studio.
Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore because because no matter what,
Speaker 1: the alarm's going off at five thirty.
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, there is no such thing as just lying
Speaker 2: in bed all day anymore. Yep. Wow, you have just
Speaker 2: you have had quite a career.
Speaker 1: How did you then find yourself on Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars after being on Broadway?
Speaker 3: So again, when we were in Perth, getting the show
Speaker 3: ready for Broadway. I was actually given a contract with
Speaker 3: my then boyfriend for Dancing with Stars. They reached out
Speaker 3: to me and they were like, hey, come do the show.
Speaker 3: I obviously our people have burned the floor, were like, well,
Speaker 3: you can't do it. You got to choose which one
Speaker 3: you want to do, And I chose Broadway ultimately because
Speaker 3: I'm like, I might never get the chance to go
Speaker 3: back and I've worked for six years on this touring
Speaker 3: dance show, like I.
Speaker 2: Have to do Broadway.
Speaker 3: So and also I was I didn't know if I
Speaker 3: wanted to do Dancing with the Stars. Yes, it was
Speaker 3: a TV opportunity, but I've never been on TV. At
Speaker 3: that stage, I was still very young, and I was
Speaker 3: very nervous to take that opportunity. But I eventually ended
Speaker 3: up taking it. When I got to LA and Broadway
Speaker 3: was over and done with, and I came to Broadway
Speaker 3: with my then boyfriend and I wanted to act, I
Speaker 3: was just like, I'm done with dance.
Speaker 2: I've hit Broadway, you know.
Speaker 3: I loved it, Like there's no other Broadway connections for
Speaker 3: me to kind of go into, so why don't I
Speaker 3: just try acting?
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was really hard Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't have much money, and I'm like, I kin't of
Speaker 3: need a job, Like this is really hard.
Speaker 2: Everybody. I would walk into a room like a cattle call.
Speaker 3: Everyone looked like me, blonde, green eyes, and I'm like, holy,
Speaker 3: how am I going to get this job?
Speaker 2: I got really close to like.
Speaker 3: Three or four, and then I just get pipped at
Speaker 3: the post every time, and.
Speaker 2: Then I run out of money. Yeah, and I need
Speaker 2: an income.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have rich parents. So I'm like, I
Speaker 3: gotta go and take the job now. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: took the job and never looked back fifteen years later
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 1: Your first mirror ball coming in just your second season. Yes,
Speaker 1: what made Die old Driver such an incredible partner?
Speaker 3: It was our friendship. We had the best time together.
Speaker 3: He gave me everything. I mean he you know, the
Speaker 3: family moved out here. He had three kids at the time,
Speaker 3: three very young kids. He would get there early, he
Speaker 3: would leave later than me. He would be there stretching
Speaker 3: before me. He never gave me any attitude, you know,
Speaker 3: like some of the guys can be like, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that, or you know, they
Speaker 3: would give you something along the way he never did.
Speaker 3: He just every performance he did, he threw himself into
Speaker 3: every character. I didn't have to like tell him, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I had to describe the dance and everything
Speaker 3: and say, you got to get close to me here.
Speaker 3: We got to be angry and like a little bit
Speaker 3: of like tension. He would do everything. And I didn't
Speaker 3: know that we were going to win. I was my
Speaker 3: second season. I had no idea, but I knew I
Speaker 3: had somebody that people loved, you know. He he was
Speaker 3: you know the word beloved, beloved.
Speaker 2: And yeah it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's he is, by the way, the
Speaker 1: nicest guy. I got to meet him at the twentieth anniversary,
Speaker 1: which was really special that again that I got to
Speaker 1: be a part of season thirty four, which was the
Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary, and they got to bring everybody back, and
Speaker 1: so I got to meet so many people that I
Speaker 1: have loved and admired over the many seasons of the show,
Speaker 1: and he was one of them who came up, introduced himself.
Speaker 1: Was just the kindest Wow, was sitting like two rows
Speaker 1: in front of me. I was like, man, he's incredible.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I tuned in every week of your
Speaker 1: podcast to find out what you and Max thought about
Speaker 1: my scores. Yes, you are an incredible host. Did you
Speaker 1: expect when you started the show? Did you expect Max
Speaker 1: to grab so many headlines with his opinions? I love
Speaker 1: his honesty, I truly, and I told him when he
Speaker 1: was here. I have always loved his honesty and the
Speaker 1: way he just is like, listen, I'm I I cannot
Speaker 1: tell you something other than my truth.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I respect about him. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I love that about him. I knew that I wanted
Speaker 3: somebody in my life that was strong and passionate, and
Speaker 3: whatever he says, it really does come down to the
Speaker 3: passion behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, he may say things in the wrong tone, they
Speaker 3: may come out the wrong way. That's his heritage, that's
Speaker 3: his culture, that's his low voice when he speaks. He
Speaker 3: speaks like this because he's passionate. You know, it doesn't
Speaker 3: come from an angry, bitter place at all.
Speaker 2: But wait, what was the question? Did you expect him
Speaker 2: to grab so many headlines? No? No, I did not. No,
Speaker 2: that was a lot. Yeah, that was a lot.
Speaker 1: As someone who also has been in my personal life,
Speaker 1: especially tone monitored. Yes, I also have a tone and
Speaker 1: have been told by many people that my tone is
Speaker 1: scary or or that I'm yelling when I'm like, but
Speaker 1: I'm not yelling. But there's a tone that I that
Speaker 1: I take on sometimes that is offensive to people. So
Speaker 1: I totally understand that you have a full understanding that sometimes.
Speaker 1: And for him, I'm sure he's also been told at
Speaker 1: his entire life that he's like, man, I just really
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about something, I just love what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. And that passion, whether like is also when
Speaker 1: I get very excited about something I love.
Speaker 2: I have that, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's almost feels impossible to then expect
Speaker 1: someone when they are saying something that might be taken negatively,
Speaker 1: to have to do it in a totally different.
Speaker 2: Voice than you. And I don't want to, like Microman
Speaker 2: push him down. What am I doing? He is who
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 3: I married him because of that, So it's like, why
Speaker 3: am I gonna say, baby, don't you got to say
Speaker 3: it like this? You know, I'm gonna give him free
Speaker 3: rein and then if we need to chop stuff out,
Speaker 3: we're gonna chop stuff out.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 3: But I think what it comes down to also is
Speaker 3: like people are so afraid right now to speak, uh huh,
Speaker 3: so afraid and it's debilitating when you can't have an
Speaker 3: opinion or say what you really feel. Yes, we don't
Speaker 3: want to hurt anybody's feelings at all. No, that was
Speaker 3: the one thing that I'm like, oh my god, you know,
Speaker 3: absolutely not like I don't stand for I got kids,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like this is not cool,
Speaker 3: but everybody should be allowed to have an opinion and
Speaker 3: not be taken down for it.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's what I I just think everyone's
Speaker 3: so vanilla right now. Nobody wants to like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I said a little bit too much, Like everyone is
Speaker 3: playing it so so I'm not just talking in what
Speaker 3: we do, but like the world in general, you know,
Speaker 3: you're going to be canceled if you say this. You're
Speaker 3: going to be canceled if you go to like it's
Speaker 3: just hot, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And everyone does have their own opinion, and we
Speaker 1: don't have to agree with someone's opinion.
Speaker 2: There were many times Max.
Speaker 1: Has said something or that you said something and I thought,
Speaker 1: well I don't agree with that doesn't make me hate
Speaker 1: you doesn't make me dislike you, doesn't make me think
Speaker 1: I have to take you down.
Speaker 2: We just we disagree.
Speaker 1: We see something a different way, and that that is okay.
Speaker 1: But if we stop ever showing that we have differences
Speaker 1: of opinion, they're not going to stop the differences of
Speaker 1: opinion from being there. They're just going to stop us
Speaker 1: from showing others how you have productive conflict.
Speaker 2: I one agree with you. Yeah, so I very.
Speaker 1: Much appreciate the honest approach that you two took, and,
Speaker 1: like you said, when you did feel like, oh, something
Speaker 1: we said may have hurt someone's feelings.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, then made a comment about that. That's when you.
Speaker 3: Own up to it, put your big girl panties on,
Speaker 3: and you go, I am so sorry.
Speaker 2: This is not how that was meant to go.
Speaker 3: I know, absolutely you got to take accountability if you
Speaker 3: really if somebody's feeling that way, you have to do
Speaker 3: something about it.
Speaker 1: I even said the same thing about carry Anne in
Speaker 1: the season when Carrie on at the very end apologized
Speaker 1: to me about something that had not hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2: What was that again.
Speaker 1: She had said when she said, you're a tiny little woman.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to see but when you
Speaker 1: let out this, I want to see you. I want
Speaker 1: to see that more bigger. And it did not hurt me.
Speaker 1: I am, I'm you know, five to one like I'm.
Speaker 1: It did not offend me. It's just to me, it's
Speaker 1: just a fact. But some people online felt very much like, so,
Speaker 1: I guess dance like you're taller, because I could see
Speaker 1: how that it could be taken that way, like.
Speaker 2: And she's coming, she's commenting on.
Speaker 1: Me physically, and so people were a little but it
Speaker 1: did not offend me. But then I did mention it
Speaker 1: in my package where I said, you know, Carrie and
Speaker 1: said I was a tiny loan but I'm big on
Speaker 1: the inside. And she then apologized and I and then
Speaker 1: people were talking about the apology and I said, I
Speaker 1: will take somebody getting up on national television, even though
Speaker 1: I did not tell her it offended me in any way.
Speaker 1: Anyone who's willing to say in a public forum, I
Speaker 1: may have done something that hurt you and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: We need more of that.
Speaker 1: So there is I mean, just what a what an
Speaker 1: incredible thing to be able to do, to say one
Speaker 1: what's on your mind openly and with that takes courage
Speaker 1: and then to recognize ooh, saying that may have hurt
Speaker 1: you and that was never my intention.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We need more of both of those things.
Speaker 2: I one thousand agree.
Speaker 1: So I very much appreciate your your approach.
Speaker 2: Who is your dream podcast guest? Honestly?
Speaker 3: But right now we're just kind of throwing stuff at
Speaker 3: the wall and so seeing what sticks.
Speaker 2: It's so new.
Speaker 3: I'm you know where, We've got a lot of feelers
Speaker 3: out to different people to come in, and I'm going
Speaker 3: to be starting something with Shana soon too. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if I have a dream person right now. Okay,
Speaker 3: We're waiting on a lot of cool people to come
Speaker 3: in and give me dates.
Speaker 2: And some of that I want you to come on to.
Speaker 1: We have been trying to work it out. I would
Speaker 1: need love love to okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe not a I haven't just got a
Speaker 2: dream person. Okay. I love that because it's still new.
Speaker 1: This is how shows become incredible, is that you have
Speaker 1: to figure out what really like.
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you want to hear about?
Speaker 2: You know? So we're just kind of still in that
Speaker 2: stage right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: With Mark Ballas returning this past season, do you ever
Speaker 1: get the itch yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you, Yeah, I do all that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's been really nice to sit out for
Speaker 3: a few I will say that it's been lovely just
Speaker 3: sitting at home on the couch, putting the TV on,
Speaker 3: and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. You know that show looks amazing.
Speaker 3: You know, it's been really nice to not to be
Speaker 3: able to cheer from the sidelines and just to not
Speaker 3: have maybe all that stress, because you know, it is
Speaker 3: very stressful.
Speaker 2: It's a big job.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do now when I feel like I've
Speaker 3: you know, I've got my body back, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, fit again. I'm not pregnant, I'm not postpartum.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good. Like I would love to get
Speaker 3: it one more stab.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh I love to hear that. They probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't take me, but I would love to have one
Speaker 2: more go. Okay. I love hearing that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I hope they hear that because that would make
Speaker 1: me so happy.
Speaker 2: So thank you so much for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Do we think your kids are going to be dancers.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about the youngest two and one,
Speaker 3: but my eight year old right now is in dancing.
Speaker 2: He has a little partner. Oh my gosh, he loves it.
Speaker 2: When he's there, it's a fight to get him in
Speaker 2: the car. Okay, it's I don't know. He's really good
Speaker 2: at tennis though.
Speaker 4: Really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm trying to like push that more.
Speaker 1: I love tennis for kids, yeah, I really do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love tennis for adults. I love tennis. But but
Speaker 1: look looking at what different sports there are. Because we
Speaker 1: have we have a very we're an athletic family, and
Speaker 1: so my youngest son loves imaginative play. But every time
Speaker 1: we put him in something, he does it. For a
Speaker 1: little while, we had him in karate, he got his
Speaker 1: first belt change and then he was like, I did it.
Speaker 1: I'm done, no more, I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: And then we put him in baseball for a season.
Speaker 1: He was like, great, I know how to do that. Now,
Speaker 1: don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: I love him. Listen, We're gonna have.
Speaker 1: To keep doing something because we need to keep our
Speaker 1: bodies active and so old to see he's only four.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's only four.
Speaker 1: Yea fine, But I like football, like is off the
Speaker 1: table for me. Not you know, soccer, but like NFL
Speaker 1: style football is just a no go. And so then
Speaker 1: I started thinking, like tennis, golf, Tennis is great.
Speaker 2: Okay, you like tennis. I love it.
Speaker 3: I literally got shy into it because we were living
Speaker 3: in Meliby at the time and we were in an
Speaker 3: apartment and I was like, he just keeps throwing.
Speaker 2: It, just keeps.
Speaker 3: Throwing and hitting stuff. And I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 3: call a tennis coach. And I'm like, I called this
Speaker 3: tennis coach. And we had courts across the road like
Speaker 3: a part of the complex that we were in, and
Speaker 3: we have never looked back. He is training with like
Speaker 3: a top coach in Beverly Hills right now and he's
Speaker 3: killing it.
Speaker 2: Like so, I don't know, try it, Okay, try it.
Speaker 3: He gets it, gets the the the boy stuff out,
Speaker 3: you know, he gets to whack that bull and he
Speaker 3: gets it all at in that hour and I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's good. Okay, good to know. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here.
Speaker 2: With me. You are just wonderful and I cannot wait
Speaker 2: to do your podcast. Kay okay, I love that all right,
Speaker 2: Thank you.
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