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Speaker 1: Welcome to Danielle Wick, a podcast slowly transforming like a

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Speaker 1: young caterpillar looking to fly. I am Danielle Fischel, a

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Speaker 1: TV director, a podcaster, a mom of two, a former

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Speaker 1: ballroom dancer, and the new owner of the teen Beat trademark,

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Speaker 1: an element of my new podcast, debuting in January right

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Speaker 1: here on this feed. But first, before we fully flip

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Speaker 1: the switch, I'm still on the prowl interviewing some of

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Speaker 1: my favorite personalities from the Dancing with the Stars universe,

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Speaker 1: hoping to get a closer look at the phenomenon that was.

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Speaker 2: Season thirty four.

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Speaker 1: I am just weeks away from joining the show's live tour,

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Speaker 1: where I will.

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Speaker 2: Travel city to city for about thirty.

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Speaker 1: Days, hosting and dancing all of the country, and once

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Speaker 1: in Canada, acting like some sort of fox trotting circus.

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Speaker 2: Carney.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I'm a little nervous, but at least I'll be

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Speaker 1: crammed in a small bus with some of my absolute

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Speaker 1: favorite people and living off just protein shakes, peanut butter

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Speaker 1: and rice cakes. But in the meanwhile, I'm continuing to

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Speaker 1: talk to past contestants and professionals from the twenty year

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Speaker 1: history of the show and today I am sitting down

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Speaker 1: with one of the best and most outspoken legacy superstars

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Speaker 1: who may not have been in the ballroom every week

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Speaker 1: this year, but I was just as glued to her

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Speaker 1: social media as I was the three judges' scores. After

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Speaker 1: growing up, winning numerous dance championships and completing a run

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Speaker 1: on Broadway, she joined Troop in season twelve and then

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Speaker 1: was upgraded to Pro a year later, and it didn't

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Speaker 1: take long for her presence to be felt. She won

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Speaker 1: the coveted mirror Ball in just her second season alongside

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Speaker 1: former football player Donald Driver and became one of the

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Speaker 1: most popular dancers.

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Speaker 2: On the show.

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Speaker 1: Later paired with fan favorites like James Maslow, Nick Lache

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Speaker 1: and Tommy Chong, and her mirror ball got a friend

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Speaker 1: in season twenty two, when she finished first again, this

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Speaker 1: time with model Nile DeMarco.

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Speaker 2: She left the show in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three and entered an entrepreneur era with her own self

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Speaker 1: tanning line, Peta Jane, and now just launched a podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Penthouse with Peta A bit of a lightning rod

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Speaker 1: for attention this past season thanks to some hot takes

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Speaker 1: and her husband, another former pro, Max Schmerkovsky, who has

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Speaker 1: never once said out loud, I don't have an opinion

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Speaker 1: on that, and we love him for it. And the

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Speaker 1: rest of her family tree is still very much on

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Speaker 1: Duo you might know as Jenna Johnson and Valschmerkovsky. So

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Speaker 1: this week I'm excited to welcome to Danielle with one

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Speaker 1: of my all time fits. It's Peter Murgatroyd. Peter, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for sitting down with me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You have always been one of my favorite dancers. No, truly,

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Speaker 1: you have always been one of my favorite dancers. I

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Speaker 1: can never take my eyes off of you. But then

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Speaker 1: this past season I had so much fun listening to

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Speaker 1: your podcast and getting to see you and recognize you

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Speaker 1: as an incredible host.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. You really very much impressed me. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, that wasn't something that was kind of on

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Speaker 3: my dream board, wish list or anything. I was approached

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Speaker 3: by a couple of producers and they were like, listen,

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Speaker 3: like let's do a female led podcast, and let's see

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Speaker 3: how it goes, and if you love it, like it?

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Speaker 3: And again I was very.

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Speaker 2: Is it the word trepid, just like tredacious, trepidaceous.

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Speaker 3: Going into it, I was like, oh my god, what

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Speaker 3: if I suck like I What if I can't remember

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Speaker 3: my questions? What if I can't segue into the next

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I had never trained it.

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Speaker 2: I've never trained in hosting nothing right, but.

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Speaker 3: It's been really fun and meeting new people that come in,

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Speaker 3: like all the different you know, celebrities and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's been really fun. Well, you're really good at it.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into your story, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: touch on this past season a little bit. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: really seems the show just has seemed to have been

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Speaker 1: catapulted into a new pop culture realm. Why do you

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Speaker 1: think this twenty year old show has had such a

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Speaker 3: I mean okay, so if we go way back, this

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Speaker 2: Just the very basics.

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Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever seen the first stage that

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Speaker 3: it's just like it's on another level. I think why

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Speaker 3: it's it's literally from like babies to grandparents are watching

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Speaker 3: our show. And dance gives people hope, It makes you

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Speaker 3: feel something, It makes people happy.

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Speaker 2: When you enjoy us when you watch it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing better than watching two people dance

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know you would have had the best

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Speaker 2: time with Pash. He's the best. He is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and now it's just it's on another

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Speaker 3: That's when it all started, right when it started to explode.

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Speaker 3: This season just blew it out of the water, right,

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Speaker 1: Last season, Alona was one of the people who was

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Speaker 3: And Riley she was really heavy on TikTok at that year,

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Riley Ezra bringing in this young

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Speaker 1: TikTok kind of generation was very influential in opening the

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Speaker 1: show up to a whole new generational kids. It amazes me,

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Speaker 1: like you said, the show being generational. Both sets of

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Speaker 1: my grandparents loved the show. And now when I go out,

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Speaker 1: having done season thirty four, the amount of anywhere from

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Speaker 1: six to twelve year olds that come up and say,

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Speaker 1: are you on Dancing with the Stars? Wow, the young kids.

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Speaker 1: So kids that aren't even on TikTok. But it's amazing

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Speaker 1: to me how many young kids love it and people

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Speaker 2: Their families and watch it and have a great time.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just I like the evolution of the show.

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Speaker 3: I think there's been some mistakes in the past, Like

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Speaker 3: and then it just rose again, and you know, with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Puppernochnoch, I have a very loaded question for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did they get the winner right this season, I

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Speaker 2: believe that I knew he was going to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from the very beginning, I felt like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he nailed his dancers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you rarely get given that gift of a partner,

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Speaker 3: got it right.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have.

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Speaker 3: A big job, that's and big shoes to feel you

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Speaker 3: have to complete incredible dances every single week. In saying that,

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Speaker 3: Alex and Val surprised me so much. In the beginning,

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Speaker 3: As it went on, I'm like, wow, Okay, she is

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Speaker 3: coming out of her shell. She is a beautiful, stunning

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Speaker 3: mean her freestyle was my favorite.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she it could have been either one because

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Speaker 3: at one stage, I was honestly thinking, oh, Alex can

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Speaker 2: So it was it was kind of like one of

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Speaker 2: these ones. But Robert I think from the beginning, the guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was his to lose. I think that's the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought of it from that first week when

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Speaker 1: big performance. It was like, Okay, he's obviously very beloved

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is his to lose.

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Speaker 1: Something would have really needed to go horribly wrong in

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Speaker 1: the season for him to lose it, or something incredibly shocking,

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Speaker 1: but you're right that.

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Speaker 2: Then toward the end, I was surprised that.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, wow, people creeping up behind humh

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Speaker 3: alex exactly.

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Speaker 2: Dylan was great. Wait did he get third? Dylan was fourth,

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Speaker 2: Jordan was third, and Elane was. I mean, yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: all and you were too. Well, thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. What were your thoughts on the judging

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Speaker 1: this season? A lot of viewers seemed to be extra

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Speaker 1: confused by the guidelines and the consistency, but that also

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Speaker 1: happens every year, it does. Yeah, did it seem like

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Speaker 3: No, Okay, I didn't feel like it was like, oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, what's happening to the judging. But because I've

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Speaker 3: kind of felt that for a while, as in, like

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Speaker 3: you need to start lower, That's not my only thing,

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Speaker 3: I know. You know, if you see somebody really cannot dance,

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Speaker 3: they're giving it, they're all and they're great, but they're

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Speaker 3: dancing is really terrible. You're going to give them a

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Speaker 3: really low score to begin with so they can go somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Give them a two so they can get to a.

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Speaker 2: Five by week five or something like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, but giving somebody a seven when it's

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Speaker 3: clearly a three is just an interesting judging math.

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Speaker 1: And really, for me, because I completely agree with you,

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Speaker 1: the hardest part for me is not about the seven

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Speaker 2: It's that then the other people who are getting eights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not only one point apart. It would

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Speaker 2: And then that could be in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: But like, so that's really where that's why those lower

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Speaker 3: I completely agree, And you know, it is up to

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Speaker 3: people's artistic expression and.

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Speaker 2: What they love.

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Speaker 3: You know, Carrie, I might have loved that dance, but

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Speaker 3: she's still going to knock you for taking your foot

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Speaker 2: Which I'm cool with.

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Speaker 3: If you took your foot off the floor, you're not

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Speaker 3: allowed to do a lift in that dance. You should

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Speaker 3: be docked for that, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 3: don't have a problem with that. But I think people

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Speaker 3: don't understand that everyone's got their idea of what they

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Speaker 1: Another big story of this season ended up being Whitney's elimination.

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Speaker 3: didn't see it, so I thought she was going to

442
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: be in the finale.

443
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I also didn't see it, and I think, I really

444
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: it's made me realize how much like the algorithm really

445
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: very quickly will jump on whatever you have spent any

446
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: sort of time on. Because I was getting only Dancing

447
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: with the Stars content. Yeah, but I wasn't seeing a

448
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of hateful stuff. But I think there have been

449
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: times that eat both on Instagram and on TikTok, where

450
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: my husband and I will be looking at the same

451
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: video and the top comments are different on both of

452
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: our On our feeds where I'm or I'll see a post,

453
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: I'll screencap the comments and send it to a friend

454
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: and they open it up and go, those aren't those

455
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: aren't the comments I'm seeing?

456
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: How does that work?

457
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: I am not sure, but I do think that if

458
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: you see a post and then click on it to

459
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: see more, even like to hate watch something or to

460
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, it thinks they stick around when

461
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: I show them this type of stuff. So I didn't

462
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: see a lot of it, but I knew from Whitney

463
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: because Whitney and I had talked about it a lot.

464
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: She was telling me that it's incessant, vile, yes, And

465
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: so I was still shocked. I thought, there's no way, though,

466
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: that the majority the voting public, the majority of the

467
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: voting public are TikTok haters. Like, what are the odds,

468
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, Like she has to be getting so many

469
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: other votes That's what I was to counteract, right whatever.

470
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: They were not voting for her, they were voting for

471
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: everybody but her, and I didn't see.

472
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that concept. So

473
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: I think that was a new concept this season.

474
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was something people very early on

475
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: put together, like, hey, let's band together and vote for everyone.

476
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: It's terrible. It's so crazy, it's cruel.

477
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't know as of you know,

478
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: watcher of TV shows and stuff like that and other

479
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: reality shows. I can't imagine being on a group.

480
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: Text saying vote for everyone. What this person? I mean,

481
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: who does that? I don't know?

482
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: But I say the same thing about people who ever

483
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: leave negative comments. I have never found myself on a

484
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: video of something and have thought something negative and thought

485
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: I should write I should write this. If I think

486
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: something negative, it's.

487
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: Not for me.

488
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: Move along. Yeah, I just need to write it down.

489
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: When someone tells me they're great brownie recipe, I don't

490
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: need to say I don't like brownies. Okay, go find

491
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: a cookie recipe, then, lady, like, why just I so?

492
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: I you know, I I don't quite get people like

493
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: to share. They do? They do?

494
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: They like their opinions to be known. Now, you are

495
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: a former Blackpool participant. You are a two time amateur

496
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Latin State champion, a premier finalist in ballroom competitions around

497
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: the world. Your education is absolutely perfect for the show.

498
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: But as we mentioned, it's newfound attention on TikTok, obviously

499
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: producers are turning to some less traditional spaces to find pros.

500
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: Do you think that without a true background in ballroom

501
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: you could win Dancing with the Stars? Sure, Okay, it's.

502
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: Got to do with who.

503
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: You partnered with number one. Okay, So I feel like

504
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: that is a huge plus. If somebody with not so

505
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: much borm training has a clear winner from day one, Yeah,

506
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: if they can get outside help to choreograph and do

507
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: the right thing and can teach somewhat something, then I think, yeah,

508
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: you can win. I think though the job is a

509
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: very difficult job that people do not understand.

510
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: Nope, not one bit. I was like floored learning.

511
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you always know like, oh, yeah, the pros

512
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: are putting all of this together, but then being on

513
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: the inside of it and seeing how much you are

514
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: all tasked with. Yeah, while you're still doing that week,

515
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: prepping the next week, song choices, involvement in wardrobe, production meetings,

516
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: the knowing when the instant dances are coming in, the like.

517
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be like three four weeks ahead

518
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: of yourself every single time.

519
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: So like it's not just.

520
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: Oh, let's go into the studio and create, you know,

521
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: it's not like that. We are literally like four weeks

522
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: ahead of you. And we're not just a dance teacher.

523
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: We are in on, as you said, everything the wardrobe,

524
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: the song choice, the lighting, I mean creating, not the

525
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: entire set.

526
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: But you know, we know what we need for you

527
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: as for you as a dancer, Like what do you

528
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: need yep? What will look? Will make what?

529
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: What will make Danielle look the best that she can

530
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: possibly look? So and the late nights choreographing for the

531
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: next three weeks. I mean it's you know, sometimes I

532
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: would come home when I was single, I would come home.

533
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: At two am from a dance studio.

534
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 3: It was it was crazy. I can't do that now

535
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: because of kids. But like it's a lot that people

536
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: do not understand. And celebrities also sign up for the

537
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: show not knowing how much work completely do.

538
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: All the years they had asked me and I and

539
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: it just had never worked out.

540
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: I was always told.

541
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Don't worry, because I would be like, well, I'm working

542
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: or I'm doing this, and they don't worry. We can

543
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: work around your work schedule.

544
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: Well you can.

545
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: You can rehearse wherever you are if you're gonna and

546
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: thinking like, all right, so then it can't be that

547
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: big of a commitment.

548
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: If they're willing to, like work around my work schedule.

549
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sure you can. If you can, you

550
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: can have a full time job and do dancing with

551
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: the stars if you're comfortable tough, just working literally twenty

552
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: four hours a day and or not truly caring what

553
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: kind of what you're putting on, what you're putting out there.

554
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: True, were you working at all?

555
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: No?

556
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: I gave everything up. I said, this has to be

557
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: my entire life.

558
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: But I still had two children and a household to run,

559
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: and I was doing podcasts. When I say no, I

560
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: wasn't working. I was doing it, yeah, multiple parts, But.

561
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: You weren't on set.

562
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: I was not directing. Noah, how could I have been directing?

563
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Like in my mind, I thought, thank god, I didn't say, well,

564
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: there's one week I'll be directing a TV show and

565
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: we'll just have to make it work that way.

566
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Good luck.

567
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: I haven't had a lot of partners with that. I

568
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: had you Marini.

569
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, he had to.

570
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: Do some things on set. I forget the show that

571
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: he was filming at the time, but we would rehearse

572
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: on set. He was also really naturally talented, so I

573
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: mean he had also gotten second with Cheryl. I got

574
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: him on an All Star, so he was he was

575
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: already sort of prepped and knew what the thing was.

576
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: But you know, Max, my husband, he had Meryl Davis,

577
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: who he ended up winning with. She was on tour

578
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: and ice skating tour. They weren't even in La. They

579
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: came back to LA for the show and then flew

580
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: straight back out so she could go touring. It was nuts, yeah,

581
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: and so.

582
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Was Max on tour with her on tour yeah.

583
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: And same with Shana because she was dancing with Meryll's partner.

584
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: But so they were like a foursome going around America together,

585
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: driving cars to the next city and stuff like that.

586
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

587
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: So you don't know who you're going to get with,

588
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: like what, but you kind of hope that you haven't

589
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: got somebody with a travel schedule. Really do because it's

590
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: really hard.

591
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just and we're all getting sick anyway all

592
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: the time. But now you add travel and like dout

593
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: cities and planes to the mix.

594
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: Yep, Oh my goodness.

595
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: If a family excluded, if you were a celebrity on

596
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: the show, who do you hope you'd be paired with?

597
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Family excluded? Family excluded?

598
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: Mm?

599
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: With the people right now?

600
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the pros on there right now, let's or

601
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: you know what, let's open it up.

602
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: Any of the any of.

603
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: The pros who've been on Family excluded, any of the

604
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: pros who've ever been on the show. Who would be

605
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: your number one choice if you were a celebrity.

606
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: It's really hot, that's really hot. I'm going through like

607
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: this one. That what there's so many factors too, because

608
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: like there are because I'm if you're talking about me,

609
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm told you're tall, so I need Max is the tolest,

610
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: so I can't have him, So I'm gonna have to

611
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: go with a glib or an Autumn.

612
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, because they're the next.

613
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: They're the next kind of tallest guys. Yeah, a glib

614
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: or an Autumn.

615
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: I would have to say, Okay, that's good. How tall

616
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: is Artem probably five eleven, yeah or something. Yeah. I

617
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: don't think he's quite six feet okay, but yeah, all right, yeah,

618
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: I think those two.

619
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: And for me, I like a tough teacher because I

620
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: grew up with Russian ballet masters, so yeah, I like

621
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: to be pushed, and I think that they would be

622
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: kind of tough on me.

623
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: You think Gleb would be tough, don't I kept trying

624
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: to figure out what kind of teacher Gleb was.

625
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: He's tough? Is he tough?

626
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: He's fun and tough at the same time. Yeah, because

627
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: he speaks so softly. He hasn't got that thing about him,

628
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: but he is tough technically.

629
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

630
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

631
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: During my research I did some math and I realized

632
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: that you were on Broadway as a lead dancer at

633
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: like eighteen years old.

634
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is quite an achievement. Were you ever nervous

635
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: or intimidated? Yeah? Yeah, oh my god, Yeah, that brings

636
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: me back very much.

637
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: So we were in Perth training that's my hometown, with

638
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: the show burned the floor at the time, getting it

639
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: ready for Broadway. So all the Broadway producers came to

640
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: Perth to like dissect the show and like take out

641
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: this number, put this number there, switch people around like

642
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: where they will be standing, and it was a big

643
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: like ruffle of feathers because we want to get it

644
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: to Broadway.

645
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: But like people were losing parts and people were getting

646
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: changed around and stuff. So it was it was.

647
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: A really chaotic time in my life actually when I

648
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: look back, because yeah, I did have a lot of

649
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: the lead stuff in there. And I remember getting pulled

650
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: into the office and the producers, the Broadway producers sat

651
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: me down and said, look, you know the show rides

652
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: on you, so strap up type of thing.

653
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: Girly.

654
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: You know, we're going to Broadway and you can't have

655
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: a down day. You cannot have a down day.

656
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

657
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I did not know what to say.

658
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, sir, like right, I am your girl,

659
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: Like I will get.

660
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: It done of thing. Yeah it was.

661
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a moment in my life where I'm like,

662
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: look back, I'm like, they probably shouldn't have said that

663
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: to me, but yeah, it was. It was an incredible experience,

664
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: Like I wish I could go back and relive those

665
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: six days that we worked our asses off. Yeah, and

666
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: then had the one day off, you know, just to

667
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: recover and lie in bed all day.

668
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was amazing.

669
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: Isn' nick just so kind of fun and interesting the

670
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: way life works that like you're able to look back

671
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: on it and you go, wow, one of the most

672
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: chaotic and stressful times of your life. And yet at

673
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: the time you probably felt very much like I've got this.

674
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: Even though you were nervous and intimidated, you were like,

675
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: I can do it, like you said, you were like, yes, sir,

676
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: and then in your mind You're just like, I have

677
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: to do it, and I'm gonna work my off six

678
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: days a week and then I'm gonna lay in bed

679
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: to recover that one day.

680
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: And now here we are, we have kids.

681
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: It's like you say, you know, I used to come

682
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: home at two o'clock in the morning from a dance studio.

683
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore because because no matter what,

684
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: the alarm's going off at five thirty.

685
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, there is no such thing as just lying

686
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: in bed all day anymore. Yep. Wow, you have just

687
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: you have had quite a career.

688
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: How did you then find yourself on Dancing with the

689
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Stars after being on Broadway?

690
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: So again, when we were in Perth, getting the show

691
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: ready for Broadway. I was actually given a contract with

692
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: my then boyfriend for Dancing with Stars. They reached out

693
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: to me and they were like, hey, come do the show.

694
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: I obviously our people have burned the floor, were like, well,

695
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: you can't do it. You got to choose which one

696
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 3: you want to do, And I chose Broadway ultimately because

697
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, I might never get the chance to go

698
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 3: back and I've worked for six years on this touring

699
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: dance show, like I.

700
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Have to do Broadway.

701
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: So and also I was I didn't know if I

702
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: wanted to do Dancing with the Stars. Yes, it was

703
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: a TV opportunity, but I've never been on TV. At

704
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: that stage, I was still very young, and I was

705
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: very nervous to take that opportunity. But I eventually ended

706
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: up taking it. When I got to LA and Broadway

707
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: was over and done with, and I came to Broadway

708
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: with my then boyfriend and I wanted to act, I

709
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: was just like, I'm done with dance.

710
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: I've hit Broadway, you know.

711
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: I loved it, Like there's no other Broadway connections for

712
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: me to kind of go into, so why don't I

713
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: just try acting?

714
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: Anyway, it was really hard Yeah, I.

715
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: Didn't have much money, and I'm like, I kin't of

716
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 3: need a job, Like this is really hard.

717
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: Everybody. I would walk into a room like a cattle call.

718
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: Everyone looked like me, blonde, green eyes, and I'm like, holy,

719
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: how am I going to get this job?

720
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: I got really close to like.

721
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: Three or four, and then I just get pipped at

722
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: the post every time, and.

723
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: Then I run out of money. Yeah, and I need

724
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: an income.

725
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have rich parents. So I'm like, I

726
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: gotta go and take the job now. So yeah, I

727
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: took the job and never looked back fifteen years later

728
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: or whatever.

729
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cool.

730
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: Your first mirror ball coming in just your second season. Yes,

731
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: what made Die old Driver such an incredible partner?

732
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: It was our friendship. We had the best time together.

733
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: He gave me everything. I mean he you know, the

734
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: family moved out here. He had three kids at the time,

735
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: three very young kids. He would get there early, he

736
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: would leave later than me. He would be there stretching

737
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: before me. He never gave me any attitude, you know,

738
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: like some of the guys can be like, you know,

739
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that, or you know, they

740
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: would give you something along the way he never did.

741
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: He just every performance he did, he threw himself into

742
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: every character. I didn't have to like tell him, well,

743
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: you know, I had to describe the dance and everything

744
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: and say, you got to get close to me here.

745
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: We got to be angry and like a little bit

746
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: of like tension. He would do everything. And I didn't

747
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: know that we were going to win. I was my

748
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: second season. I had no idea, but I knew I

749
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: had somebody that people loved, you know. He he was

750
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: you know the word beloved, beloved.

751
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: And yeah it goes both ways.

752
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that's he is, by the way, the

753
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: nicest guy. I got to meet him at the twentieth anniversary,

754
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: which was really special that again that I got to

755
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: be a part of season thirty four, which was the

756
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary, and they got to bring everybody back, and

757
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: so I got to meet so many people that I

758
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: have loved and admired over the many seasons of the show,

759
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: and he was one of them who came up, introduced himself.

760
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: Was just the kindest Wow, was sitting like two rows

761
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: in front of me. I was like, man, he's incredible.

762
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, I tuned in every week of your

763
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: podcast to find out what you and Max thought about

764
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: my scores. Yes, you are an incredible host. Did you

765
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: expect when you started the show? Did you expect Max

766
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: to grab so many headlines with his opinions? I love

767
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: his honesty, I truly, and I told him when he

768
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: was here. I have always loved his honesty and the

769
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: way he just is like, listen, I'm I I cannot

770
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: tell you something other than my truth.

771
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: I just can't.

772
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I respect about him. Yeah, you know,

773
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: I love that about him. I knew that I wanted

774
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: somebody in my life that was strong and passionate, and

775
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: whatever he says, it really does come down to the

776
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: passion behind it.

777
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

778
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: Yes, he may say things in the wrong tone, they

779
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: may come out the wrong way. That's his heritage, that's

780
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: his culture, that's his low voice when he speaks. He

781
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: speaks like this because he's passionate. You know, it doesn't

782
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: come from an angry, bitter place at all.

783
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: But wait, what was the question? Did you expect him

784
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: to grab so many headlines? No? No, I did not. No,

785
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: that was a lot. Yeah, that was a lot.

786
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: As someone who also has been in my personal life,

787
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: especially tone monitored. Yes, I also have a tone and

788
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: have been told by many people that my tone is

789
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: scary or or that I'm yelling when I'm like, but

790
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm not yelling. But there's a tone that I that

791
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I take on sometimes that is offensive to people. So

792
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: I totally understand that you have a full understanding that sometimes.

793
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: And for him, I'm sure he's also been told at

794
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: his entire life that he's like, man, I just really

795
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about something, I just love what I'm

796
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: talking about. And that passion, whether like is also when

797
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: I get very excited about something I love.

798
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: I have that, you know.

799
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: So it's like it's almost feels impossible to then expect

800
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: someone when they are saying something that might be taken negatively,

801
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: to have to do it in a totally different.

802
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Voice than you. And I don't want to, like Microman

803
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: push him down. What am I doing? He is who

804
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: he is.

805
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: I married him because of that, So it's like, why

806
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: am I gonna say, baby, don't you got to say

807
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: it like this? You know, I'm gonna give him free

808
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: rein and then if we need to chop stuff out,

809
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna chop stuff out.

810
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

811
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: But I think what it comes down to also is

812
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: like people are so afraid right now to speak, uh huh,

813
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: so afraid and it's debilitating when you can't have an

814
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: opinion or say what you really feel. Yes, we don't

815
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: want to hurt anybody's feelings at all. No, that was

816
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: the one thing that I'm like, oh my god, you know,

817
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: absolutely not like I don't stand for I got kids,

818
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like this is not cool,

819
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: but everybody should be allowed to have an opinion and

820
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: not be taken down for it.

821
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: Exactly.

822
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, that's what I I just think everyone's

823
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 3: so vanilla right now. Nobody wants to like, oh my god,

824
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: I said a little bit too much, Like everyone is

825
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: playing it so so I'm not just talking in what

826
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: we do, but like the world in general, you know,

827
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: you're going to be canceled if you say this. You're

828
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: going to be canceled if you go to like it's

829
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: just hot, yeah, you know.

830
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And everyone does have their own opinion, and we

831
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: don't have to agree with someone's opinion.

832
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: There were many times Max.

833
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: Has said something or that you said something and I thought,

834
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: well I don't agree with that doesn't make me hate

835
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: you doesn't make me dislike you, doesn't make me think

836
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: I have to take you down.

837
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: We just we disagree.

838
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: We see something a different way, and that that is okay.

839
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: But if we stop ever showing that we have differences

840
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: of opinion, they're not going to stop the differences of

841
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: opinion from being there. They're just going to stop us

842
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: from showing others how you have productive conflict.

843
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: I one agree with you. Yeah, so I very.

844
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: Much appreciate the honest approach that you two took, and,

845
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: like you said, when you did feel like, oh, something

846
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: we said may have hurt someone's feelings.

847
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, then made a comment about that. That's when you.

848
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: Own up to it, put your big girl panties on,

849
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: and you go, I am so sorry.

850
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: This is not how that was meant to go.

851
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: I know, absolutely you got to take accountability if you

852
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: really if somebody's feeling that way, you have to do

853
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: something about it.

854
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: I even said the same thing about carry Anne in

855
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: the season when Carrie on at the very end apologized

856
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: to me about something that had not hurt my feelings.

857
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: What was that again.

858
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: She had said when she said, you're a tiny little woman.

859
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I want to I want to see but when you

860
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: let out this, I want to see you. I want

861
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: to see that more bigger. And it did not hurt me.

862
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: I am, I'm you know, five to one like I'm.

863
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: It did not offend me. It's just to me, it's

864
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: just a fact. But some people online felt very much like, so,

865
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: I guess dance like you're taller, because I could see

866
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: how that it could be taken that way, like.

867
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: And she's coming, she's commenting on.

868
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: Me physically, and so people were a little but it

869
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: did not offend me. But then I did mention it

870
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: in my package where I said, you know, Carrie and

871
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: said I was a tiny loan but I'm big on

872
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: the inside. And she then apologized and I and then

873
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: people were talking about the apology and I said, I

874
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: will take somebody getting up on national television, even though

875
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I did not tell her it offended me in any way.

876
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: Anyone who's willing to say in a public forum, I

877
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: may have done something that hurt you and I'm sorry.

878
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: We need more of that.

879
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: So there is I mean, just what a what an

880
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: incredible thing to be able to do, to say one

881
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: what's on your mind openly and with that takes courage

882
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: and then to recognize ooh, saying that may have hurt

883
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: you and that was never my intention.

884
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We need more of both of those things.

885
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: I one thousand agree.

886
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: So I very much appreciate your your approach.

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Speaker 2: Who is your dream podcast guest? Honestly?

888
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: But right now we're just kind of throwing stuff at

889
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 3: the wall and so seeing what sticks.

890
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: It's so new.

891
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: I'm you know where, We've got a lot of feelers

892
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Speaker 3: out to different people to come in, and I'm going

893
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: to be starting something with Shana soon too. So I

894
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: don't know if I have a dream person right now. Okay,

895
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Speaker 3: We're waiting on a lot of cool people to come

896
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Speaker 3: in and give me dates.

897
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Speaker 2: And some of that I want you to come on to.

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Speaker 1: We have been trying to work it out. I would

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Speaker 1: need love love to okay.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe not a I haven't just got a

901
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: dream person. Okay. I love that because it's still new.

902
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: This is how shows become incredible, is that you have

903
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: to figure out what really like.

904
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Speaker 2: I don't know what do you want to hear about?

905
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: You know? So we're just kind of still in that

906
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: stage right now. Yeah.

907
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: With Mark Ballas returning this past season, do you ever

908
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: get the itch yourself.

909
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you, Yeah, I do all that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been really nice to sit out for

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Speaker 3: a few I will say that it's been lovely just

912
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: sitting at home on the couch, putting the TV on,

913
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Speaker 3: and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. You know that show looks amazing.

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00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: You know, it's been really nice to not to be

916
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Speaker 3: able to cheer from the sidelines and just to not

917
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: have maybe all that stress, because you know, it is

918
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Speaker 3: very stressful.

919
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: It's a big job.

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00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do now when I feel like I've

921
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Speaker 3: you know, I've got my body back, and I'm like,

922
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Speaker 3: you know, fit again. I'm not pregnant, I'm not postpartum.

923
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good. Like I would love to get

924
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: it one more stab.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh I love to hear that. They probably

926
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't take me, but I would love to have one

927
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Speaker 2: more go. Okay. I love hearing that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hope they hear that because that would make

929
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Speaker 1: me so happy.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much for being with us.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you before you go, you're Peter

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Speaker 1: Jane beauty your self Tanner. Yes, I want you. You

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Speaker 1: gave me a beautiful bedazzled box and it's sitting gorgeously

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Speaker 1: on my bathroom counter. I am not I've never done

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Speaker 1: a good self tan. Okay, I know your products are

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Speaker 1: give myself a good self hand.

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Speaker 2: What are my what are your like top tips?

939
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Speaker 1: What are things I must do in order to with

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Speaker 1: your products give myself the perfect self tan?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So number one, you just need clean skin, get out

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Speaker 3: of the shower. Okay, that's when you're gonna put your

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Speaker 3: tan on. Or you can do it right before bed

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Speaker 3: and you can sleep in it. Really yeah, it won't

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Speaker 3: stain my bed sheets.

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Speaker 2: Put dark clothing okay.

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Speaker 3: Dark Pagai always say that Doc pajamas, long sleeve, long legs.

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Speaker 2: I would say its folio eight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the day before, the day before, not right before,

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Speaker 3: not right before, because for me, anyway, that will irritate

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Speaker 3: my skin. I don't know, you od yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So do it the day before and then consistently moisturize afterwards.

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Speaker 3: Use one of our tan extenders to keep extending the

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Speaker 3: of it for the rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So yeah, those are my top tips. I mean

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Speaker 2: it dry. It's my baby.

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Speaker 3: I've been working on this since twenty fifteen, so you

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Speaker 3: know it's it's now my full time job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm about to go on tour and I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to get spray tan. But you

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Speaker 1: going on the tour and I'm going on tour. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm opening the tour. I'm going to be doing the

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Speaker 1: first three the first three weeks. I'm gone like them

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Speaker 1: the eighteenth to the fifteenth or something so cool. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm like, I take them with You'm going

969
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Speaker 1: to take them with me because I'm gonna need my

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Speaker 1: little You're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Stan on the go.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna need to look hot in your dresses, and

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Speaker 3: you're gonna need brown skin and glowing.

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Speaker 2: Skin, brown glowing skin. I love it so.

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Speaker 2: Do we think your kids are going to be dancers.

982
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Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't think so.

983
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about the youngest two and one,

984
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 3: but my eight year old right now is in dancing.

985
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: He has a little partner. Oh my gosh, he loves it.

986
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: When he's there, it's a fight to get him in

987
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: the car. Okay, it's I don't know. He's really good

988
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: at tennis though.

989
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: Really good.

990
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm trying to like push that more.

991
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: I love tennis for kids, yeah, I really do. I mean,

992
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: I love tennis for adults. I love tennis. But but

993
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: look looking at what different sports there are. Because we

994
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: have we have a very we're an athletic family, and

995
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: so my youngest son loves imaginative play. But every time

996
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: we put him in something, he does it. For a

997
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: little while, we had him in karate, he got his

998
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: first belt change and then he was like, I did it.

999
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm done, no more, I don't want to do this anymore.

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00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: And then we put him in baseball for a season.

1001
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: He was like, great, I know how to do that. Now,

1002
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: don't want to do that anymore.

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00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: I love him. Listen, We're gonna have.

1004
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: To keep doing something because we need to keep our

1005
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: bodies active and so old to see he's only four.

1006
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's only four.

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Speaker 1: Yea fine, But I like football, like is off the

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00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: table for me. Not you know, soccer, but like NFL

1009
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: style football is just a no go. And so then

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Speaker 1: I started thinking, like tennis, golf, Tennis is great.

1011
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you like tennis. I love it.

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00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: I literally got shy into it because we were living

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00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: in Meliby at the time and we were in an

1014
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: apartment and I was like, he just keeps throwing.

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00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: It, just keeps.

1016
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: Throwing and hitting stuff. And I'm like, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: call a tennis coach. And I'm like, I called this

1018
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: tennis coach. And we had courts across the road like

1019
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: a part of the complex that we were in, and

1020
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Speaker 3: we have never looked back. He is training with like

1021
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: a top coach in Beverly Hills right now and he's

1022
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: killing it.

1023
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Speaker 2: Like so, I don't know, try it, Okay, try it.

1024
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: He gets it, gets the the the boy stuff out,

1025
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Speaker 3: you know, he gets to whack that bull and he

1026
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Speaker 3: gets it all at in that hour and I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's good. Okay, good to know. Thank you

1028
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Speaker 1: so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: With me. You are just wonderful and I cannot wait

1030
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Speaker 2: to do your podcast. Kay okay, I love that all right,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Danielle with the Stars Produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge

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Speaker 1: of production Danielle Romo, producer, editor and engineer Tara Sudbosch.

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Speaker 2: Theme song by Justin Siegel. Follow us on Instagram at

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