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Speaker 1: and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of The Break. We're gonna are off this
Speaker 1: show talking just a little bit about the Eagles since
Speaker 1: we talked about it yesterday. They end up winning thirty
Speaker 1: four twenty seven at Green Bay. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think of that game? I really thought I was going
Speaker 1: to be right for a minute there, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Packers lost. But I'm pulling it. Make you right now?
Speaker 1: We were right? We were right? Well, I feel I
Speaker 1: feel right too. Like I said, even if the Eagles
Speaker 1: were to lose that game, they're gonna get it together.
Speaker 1: And they certainly looked like they kind of found their
Speaker 1: stride a little bit last night. Yeah, you know, as
Speaker 1: the game was going on and I actually put this
Speaker 1: on Twitter. But I've thought that this game against the
Speaker 1: Saints has gotten even bigger because I really feel like
Speaker 1: this is the biggest challenge that they've got here in
Speaker 1: the next few weeks, because I know they have Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: but the Packers don't scare It shouldn't scare anyone really
Speaker 1: with what they were throwing out there, especially what happened
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. So I just thought
Speaker 1: that the Saints game got even bigger in my mind
Speaker 1: because I looked at the Eagles and the Packers and said,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should be able to beat both of these
Speaker 1: teams because they are better than both those teams. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they'll it'll happen, but they should. I mean, I
Speaker 1: saw you say that last night, and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get into a Twitter back and forth, especially since
Speaker 1: we're on a show together. But I don't necessarily buy that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I am curious Davante Adams hurt his toe.
Speaker 1: Maybe he won't be able to go against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: next week, but that's big if that happens. It's the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's a great quarterback who's got a history of beating
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Like I like that's it's and it's fun,
Speaker 1: you know, it's fun to be on Twitter and talking
Speaker 1: to people about games as they're happening. But everybody last
Speaker 1: night was like, well, the Cowboys are just gonna be
Speaker 1: able to do whatever they want against both of these teams,
Speaker 1: and like, that's not how the NFL works. You spend
Speaker 1: a week game planning for your opponent. You figure out
Speaker 1: what they don't do well, and it's not as easy
Speaker 1: is saying, no, Zeke's gonna run for five. Don't always
Speaker 1: win games just because you're the very better. True, No,
Speaker 1: I know that, But I do think that Aaron and
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers will give the Packers a chance to win
Speaker 1: any game, especially against the Cowboys. But when you don't
Speaker 1: run the football and you don't stop the run, those
Speaker 1: are the two you know, line one and then line
Speaker 1: two in football, and they can't do either one right now.
Speaker 1: So that's why I think the Cowboys should be able
Speaker 1: to win that game. Not looking ahead, just saying that
Speaker 1: this looks like the biggest challenge still with the Saints,
Speaker 1: and I think that they are the better team than
Speaker 1: the Packers and probably the Eagles. I will say, because
Speaker 1: you know I'm I'm very aware of this. Like people
Speaker 1: think I'm a downer, I think the Cowboys are better
Speaker 1: than all of the teams on the schedule until the
Speaker 1: bye week right now, in turn, like who's available, what
Speaker 1: they're playing like, it looks like they're not better than
Speaker 1: the buye No, I just mean, well, you're not looking
Speaker 1: that far. That's as far as I'm willing to look
Speaker 1: at a little break they when you start getting to
Speaker 1: that point in the season, that when you start getting tougher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we can afford to look ahead.
Speaker 1: We're not the team you got. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough game against the Saints, but it's winnable. Tough
Speaker 1: game against the Packers, but it's winnable. You should beat
Speaker 1: the Jets. They look like garbage, and I don't think
Speaker 1: Darnold will be back. And then you got the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and you never know what's going to happen in every
Speaker 1: division game. But I like their odds in all of
Speaker 1: those games. I'm not saying they're gonna win them all,
Speaker 1: but I like their chances of winning all of those games.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, let's try to figure out who they
Speaker 1: might not have available for this Sunday. Bring focus back
Speaker 1: in Zack Martin. We talked about him yesterday. It turns
Speaker 1: out that he did not practice. He didn't practice yesterday.
Speaker 1: He's back today. He's back today. Every Jones says they
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play. He even said it, Jerry said it.
Speaker 1: Jones probably will say it. This is a classic case
Speaker 1: of we only get to see fifteen minutes because you know,
Speaker 1: I said, well, it's weird. He practice Wednesday and didn't
Speaker 1: practice Thursday. He left practice Wednesday. He didn't finish it
Speaker 1: because his back was bothering him, so they gave him
Speaker 1: the day off. He's back today. And again we've said
Speaker 1: it fifteen times like he's going to be managing this
Speaker 1: probably all season. But he's an all Pro. He's a
Speaker 1: super tough dude. Uh, they'll get him right by hooker
Speaker 1: by crook, but he'll he'll be out there. Don't bring
Speaker 1: it hooker there. Oh come on, it's an expression or
Speaker 1: stop stop Cooper was Cooper's out there Okay, he's fine,
Speaker 1: can handle the game. And and Xavier Woods is out
Speaker 1: there too, which again three straight days of practice. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play, which is a testament to him,
Speaker 1: like you know he hurt his ankle two weeks in
Speaker 1: less than two weeks ago. I'll start Brandon Knight. So well,
Speaker 1: that's the obvious, the obvious three or Michael Gallup, Tyron
Speaker 1: Crawford and Antoine Woods. They haven't practiced, they're not going
Speaker 1: to play, forget about it. Brandon Knight, I think is
Speaker 1: another good guess. Adam Redmond is another good guess. Is
Speaker 1: he if Zach Martin is kind of being depth a
Speaker 1: little bit. You have Joe Looney and Xavier Sue of Philo.
Speaker 1: I mean you have yeah, agreed, agreed, So five Donovan Wilson. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: so I think Luke Gifford probably yeah, yeah, You're not
Speaker 1: going to throw him into a game when you know
Speaker 1: three days after he comes back. I talked to him
Speaker 1: yesterday and he said his whole family was coming in
Speaker 1: to watch the Packer gam and he's hoping that it's
Speaker 1: his debut. He does not think he'll play this way.
Speaker 1: I don't think he will either. Um and then okay,
Speaker 1: so then you've got three. I think you have three options.
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, Cavon Frasier, Cedric Wilson. Um Cavan was limited yesterday.
Speaker 1: His Achilles is bothering him. Jason Garrett said, they're keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on it, but he was out there today
Speaker 1: and he was in the gunner spot on the punt team,
Speaker 1: which like, yeah, a guy with a bad achilles maybe
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have him at gunner. So I think he'll
Speaker 1: be up. Yeah, and with Tavan coming back, Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: coming back, but he's still not your outside receiver like
Speaker 1: you want. So if something were to happen to it,
Speaker 1: let's say Devin Smith. Yeah, I mean you have Cobb
Speaker 1: or Tavon or Cedric wils I think Wilson's probably a
Speaker 1: better option. And he was also feeling punts during special
Speaker 1: teams today, which Donovan Donovan, I just if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, I think maybe he's a healthy scratch yep,
Speaker 1: um that's seven. Yeah, that's easy. That would be my guess.
Speaker 1: I think that this was a pretty good week to
Speaker 1: figure that one out. It helps when you have three
Speaker 1: or four injured guys, and yeah, like injuries aren't good,
Speaker 1: but in terms of figuring out the inactives, they help. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, um, I don't even know when we
Speaker 1: should take a break. We're not right now. I'll go
Speaker 1: ahead and start asking you guys some questions. I like
Speaker 1: taking this moment to getting to questions from the fans.
Speaker 1: Give them the chance. You pay more attention to the
Speaker 1: fans than Derek does. I try to, um you know that.
Speaker 1: I I see some people asking about Tristan Hill and
Speaker 1: what's going to happen there with the d line and
Speaker 1: how confident you guys feel with based on what we
Speaker 1: saw last game against the Dolphin. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think with Stephen Jones that said it, you know, he
Speaker 1: just got his feet wet, and that's probably a good
Speaker 1: way to say it to mean he did. He got
Speaker 1: out there. He made a couple of nice plays, but
Speaker 1: not great plays. You know, wasn't the best competition, didn't
Speaker 1: do a whole lot in the second half, but I mean,
Speaker 1: just just got out there, just learning how this thing works.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been spectacular in training camp or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He hasn't done any wild moments. So he just gotta
Speaker 1: keep getting better. And I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 1: good opportunity for him right now with Antoine Woods banged up,
Speaker 1: because as soon as Woods comes back, I think he's
Speaker 1: inactive again. So with his second game and then Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn's second game playing. Are you expecting some kind of
Speaker 1: improvement there in the d line and pressuring more the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think this is a big opportunity, not this isn't
Speaker 1: Triston Hill specific, but I think it's a big opportunity
Speaker 1: for the for the defensive tackles because I think I
Speaker 1: think the Saints whole defense offensive line is good. But
Speaker 1: if I was going to attack them, I would want
Speaker 1: to attack him right up the middle because I think
Speaker 1: Eric McCoy's a really good player. They drafted him high,
Speaker 1: but he's a rookie and playing, you know, four games
Speaker 1: into his season. And then you got Larry Warford, who
Speaker 1: he's been good at times. But I mean, if I
Speaker 1: had to pick a weak link on the Saints offensive line,
Speaker 1: it would probably be him. So you know, you think
Speaker 1: MALIEK Collins, Tristan Hill, Christian Covington, if you can get
Speaker 1: something going there. I liked the idea of pushing the
Speaker 1: pocket back on Teddy Bridgewater brought us thinks the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna blitz a lot to affect him, which that
Speaker 1: would be intriguing. Again, maybe you know, you talk about
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith rushing more. Maybe he can do that up
Speaker 1: the middle. But the scary part about that to me
Speaker 1: is when you blitz and you think that that um
Speaker 1: I want to say some roles when you say that, Um,
Speaker 1: come yeah, Camara, just read the Kara. I know, like
Speaker 1: my instinct is to say Kamara, but that's not right.
Speaker 1: It's Kamara. And as soon as you blitz and you
Speaker 1: think he's in there to protect, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they dump it over everyone's head and now he's got space.
Speaker 1: His his thirty two yard touchdown on the screen, which
Speaker 1: I think there was like less than a minute in
Speaker 1: the first half, and the Saints were on like the
Speaker 1: thirty two and Seattle brought like a cover zero blitz
Speaker 1: and Kamara scored on the scround. I was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Like, you will probably be able to
Speaker 1: hold them to a field goal if you just play
Speaker 1: something a little more vanilla, like why are you gonna
Speaker 1: sell out like that? Um? So yeah, yeah, maybe be
Speaker 1: careful with that because if you send your linebackers and
Speaker 1: Kamara gets his hands on the ball, you might be
Speaker 1: I agree, but just think Camaro Camaro, Hey, yeah, makes
Speaker 1: it easy right into the show. Thanks all right, well side, Huh,
Speaker 1: you're done with what working? I thought you were eating
Speaker 1: a cupcake? Qu I did you know people keep complaining
Speaker 1: about the shows being forty five minutes? I see them
Speaker 1: on Twitter just complaining about it, and you're over here
Speaker 1: asking about cupcakes. Keep them on track. Let's get back
Speaker 1: in time. Oh are you coming in on me? Aside
Speaker 1: from the hostile environment that we talked about the hostile
Speaker 1: environment of the studio in the Superdome? Aside from that? Wait,
Speaker 1: did you on that? Have you guys seen that article
Speaker 1: that I just saw it this morning? There was an
Speaker 1: article saying that from some ticket data that's been around
Speaker 1: that they've been able to evaluate, they suspect that it
Speaker 1: will be a fifty percent fifty percent Cowboys to Saints fans.
Speaker 1: I did in the state did said that out? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I didn't read the whole article, but I
Speaker 1: saw that. I saw that article. I haven't had a
Speaker 1: chance to read it. There will be Cowboys fans there.
Speaker 1: If there are Cowboys fans everywhere, but fifty there's no
Speaker 1: way it's not a snowballs channel. And how do you
Speaker 1: even calculate that? Well, I would assume so many people
Speaker 1: in Texas spot tickets. Guess what if they're Saints fans
Speaker 1: all over Texas. Get it, I get it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it was interesting to me. I don't know the
Speaker 1: solidity of the article, but it did. It did raise
Speaker 1: my interest. And also, because you guys do this almost
Speaker 1: every week, don't come up to me two hours before
Speaker 1: kickoff or an hour before kickoff and go look, look,
Speaker 1: because Cowboy fans will show up early. We know, we
Speaker 1: know the visiting team always shows up early, and it
Speaker 1: looks like they're making some noise there. And then by
Speaker 1: the Rams game, we really thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: fifty fifty in the visional round, and it was kickoff,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god. And then by the time,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was probably more of a seventy thirty
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans. If you're a Cowboys fans, whose legit that was?
Speaker 1: Still that's always like that. Washington fans hate their team.
Speaker 1: And there's also a lot of Cowboys fans out there. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: for sure, but Cowboys fans that go on the road usually,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's people that go to a
Speaker 1: lot of Row games, but typically it's like it's your
Speaker 1: one chance a year or maybe in your life to
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys, You're going to go early. You want
Speaker 1: to see your favorite players warming your jersey. Yep, Saints
Speaker 1: fans are going to hang out in the concourses and
Speaker 1: drink until they absolutely have to be outside or no,
Speaker 1: that's what I tell you. They're gonna be. You know,
Speaker 1: the plazas and the square and the streets, and there's
Speaker 1: no open container laws in New Orleans, so you can
Speaker 1: drink wherever the hell you want to. Let's just make
Speaker 1: it out of there. I don't know how kids are
Speaker 1: raised to take it out of there. It took a toll,
Speaker 1: but it was fun. All right. Let's take our first
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Speaker 1: Back to the break, Welcome back. All right. We talked
Speaker 1: about hosts hostile environment there. That's gonna happen regardless of
Speaker 1: them having fifty fifty fans at the stadium. Derek biggest
Speaker 1: challenge to the Cowboys will face come no doubt it'll
Speaker 1: be Alvin Kamara. How are you trying to stop him?
Speaker 1: Talked about answer do you hear that this week? This week?
Speaker 1: Or last year when he said choke him out? No, no no, no,
Speaker 1: this week? How do you stop Alvin Kamara? I'm marry
Speaker 1: and it was like hit him like before they even like,
Speaker 1: how do you say he's a hit him? Tackle him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: punch him. That sounds like I mean just you know,
Speaker 1: but I will say this and you I think it
Speaker 1: was you Day that mentioned this from the game that
Speaker 1: they played last week. If they would actually, if the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks would have tackled him on first contact, you
Speaker 1: would have had a very normal would have been a
Speaker 1: very normal day. And it does make me wonder if
Speaker 1: you want to talk about what the Cowboys can do
Speaker 1: to limit him, tackle him, if you can get him
Speaker 1: down when you first contact him, I think you make
Speaker 1: a big Now that's easier said than done. He would
Speaker 1: have been very good if started him. He was really
Speaker 1: elusive and he's got some power. But they have done
Speaker 1: it right. They were so and it wasn't just the
Speaker 1: Saints game like last year. They were so good at
Speaker 1: like you know, let Leyton vander Esh makes first contact
Speaker 1: and before he can even regain his footing, there's like
Speaker 1: four guys on top of him like they were gang
Speaker 1: tackling machines last year, hitting him in the head. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, the fact, I mean I would look
Speaker 1: back that that didn't get flagged. The jail and hit
Speaker 1: on him is still kind of amazing to me. But
Speaker 1: I would look at that. I would just look at that,
Speaker 1: as you know, I would dedicate as many resources as
Speaker 1: I needed to to stop Kamara, even if that meant
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas goes off a little bit, because Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: the kind of receiver is he's not gonna be one
Speaker 1: that's going fifty yards for touchdowns. If he has ten
Speaker 1: catches and all those catches are average of seven eight
Speaker 1: yards per catch, I think I'm still okay with that
Speaker 1: if Camara doesn't get off right, So that's really that
Speaker 1: would be my focus as if I were coordinating the defense,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop Camara first and foremost, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make Bridgewater beat me. And even if he uses Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: I still think that's not gonna be enough to keep
Speaker 1: up with the points I'll produce. If Michael Thomas has
Speaker 1: like ninety yards are less, and and then I think
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Like I'm well, obviously, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like if you can hold them to even like a
Speaker 1: one hundred yard day but Kamara doesn't do his thing,
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. You win that game. Probably probably
Speaker 1: as long as offense plays like it's been playing. Actually,
Speaker 1: that one's gonna be really tough to do. What would
Speaker 1: be the next one that I would say? Winning the
Speaker 1: coin toss will will be important? It really will be.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking because I think the first quarter is important.
Speaker 1: Always take that very serious. Well, I think in this
Speaker 1: case winning the I think you gotta get off to
Speaker 1: a good start. I think if they can get play
Speaker 1: defense first, that will help um anything that that will
Speaker 1: get the Saints crowd going, ask them buying fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it even if it is never mind,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a tough place to play,
Speaker 1: and I think that the Cowboys need to get out early.
Speaker 1: That's just the only recipe I've ever seen for them
Speaker 1: going into the Superdome and winning was bunch them in
Speaker 1: the mouth, and that's what they did. And I think
Speaker 1: that they need to do that early. So survide the
Speaker 1: first quarter. Make Bridgewater be a real quarterback and have
Speaker 1: to go and sling it around. I really didn't mean
Speaker 1: that in a bad way. I just mean for him
Speaker 1: to have to go and throw the ball and not
Speaker 1: play as easy as a game as he was able
Speaker 1: to play last week. I worry about not playing this
Speaker 1: game cleanly, partially because of the atmosphere. Part I mean
Speaker 1: you're on the road, partially because it's a good team.
Speaker 1: But like we've you kind of seen it in spurts
Speaker 1: through the first three weeks and they've been able to
Speaker 1: overcome it because there's so much better. But you know,
Speaker 1: a Connor Williams holding flag calls back a seventy yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Zach Martin has been flagged for holding twice. I think
Speaker 1: it was both in the Giants game, but twice this year.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams gets bullied by durn Payne and Dak throws
Speaker 1: an interception in the first quarter on the road. Then
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff can kill you, especially I mean
Speaker 1: against a better team too. And we haven't seen a
Speaker 1: time it hasn't happened a ton, but it's never good
Speaker 1: when you're behind the chains and holding penal, these false starts,
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff will do that to you.
Speaker 1: I worry about that, especially, you know in the first half,
Speaker 1: when the crowd is that its peak of emotion and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Um, I'll be interested to see how
Speaker 1: plainly they can play that. I have forgote all right,
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about penalties and stuff, but they've been
Speaker 1: getting somebody. I think it kind of makes you forget
Speaker 1: about it because they've been winning games the way that
Speaker 1: they have. I mean, when you look at games they
Speaker 1: do make they get the cob touchdown called back and
Speaker 1: they go downfield in three plays and score anyway, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, cool. Like, but in a normal
Speaker 1: game against a really good team, you punt that series
Speaker 1: and it winds up in Nick's you know, five plays
Speaker 1: to remember where you're like, this is where the game swung,
Speaker 1: this is where it all went wrong. So they can
Speaker 1: afford to make those kind of mistakes. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean to. Obviously the Saints have great players, Like there's
Speaker 1: other stuff they're gonna be challenged by. I think Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins verse Cam Jordan is must see TV. But you
Speaker 1: got that working against you, and it's a little bit
Speaker 1: troubling because we've seen them get into those types of
Speaker 1: holes at times. Can I throw this out real quick?
Speaker 1: I went back to look up that article. It was
Speaker 1: the study was done by excuse me, vivid Seats and
Speaker 1: they do this for a lot of college and pro games,
Speaker 1: and supposedly they're pretty accurate. And Nick, what did you
Speaker 1: say was the percentage Cowboys fans at the Cowboys RAMS game?
Speaker 1: I thought, but you know, by the end of the game,
Speaker 1: I thought, like seventy thirty. Last year, they predicted it
Speaker 1: would be thirty percent Cowboys fans at that RAMS game.
Speaker 1: Based upon the data that they look at, it seems
Speaker 1: like they were pretty accurate. And they say they're based
Speaker 1: on this article. They're pretty accurate with a lot of
Speaker 1: these projections because they do it based upon one of
Speaker 1: the factors is location where the tickets about. But there
Speaker 1: are other data points that help normalize that a little bit,
Speaker 1: because you argual with sometimes fan bases that will travel,
Speaker 1: and I could see I could see the cow I
Speaker 1: could see Cowboys fans getting up to thirty percent because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are really good, so you want to go.
Speaker 1: It's a fun road trip. So there's that. And then
Speaker 1: there's also of Cowboys fans living in Louisiana, so like
Speaker 1: I could see it being a half the amount. But
Speaker 1: fifty fifty is a little hard to blue. I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree, but it just does I mean, the whole
Speaker 1: thing just does give me something like that's that would
Speaker 1: be really that would be a story of the game.
Speaker 1: If you get fifty fifty in that place that's considered
Speaker 1: by most accounts in the NFL as one of the
Speaker 1: toughest places to go in and play. To get a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty split into building like that, even to get
Speaker 1: a forty sixty split in a building like that, I
Speaker 1: think is remarkable. America's team baby. All right, Well, speaking
Speaker 1: of fifty to fifty, let's figure out what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going to do with the running backs this week.
Speaker 1: You got Tony Pollar and Zikalalia. Fans are asking what
Speaker 1: are y'all's expectations. How do you think that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will utilize them both this weekend. I really think there's
Speaker 1: too much being made of this because, like I said
Speaker 1: last week, I mean, in the first half of that game,
Speaker 1: it was thirteen to two, Zeke and what he gets
Speaker 1: followed gets like every three series, and then they carry
Speaker 1: that into the third quarter, which you know that that's
Speaker 1: a little bit different. But I still think that it's
Speaker 1: this is not a if the Cowboy. If that game
Speaker 1: would have been close, I think Zeke would have been
Speaker 1: in there a lot more so. I agree, although I actually,
Speaker 1: you know, especially because Michael Gallup's not going to be
Speaker 1: part of this. Somebody yesterday accused me of throwing shade
Speaker 1: at Devin Smith and Randall Cobb. That's not my intention,
Speaker 1: but I just I like this matchup a lot better
Speaker 1: if you have two dynamic receivers. I know Cobb had
Speaker 1: a long touchdown call back. We since the opener, we
Speaker 1: haven't seen them taking advantage of him as much as
Speaker 1: I would prefer. That would be great if they could
Speaker 1: get him going. But I actually to counteract not having Gallop,
Speaker 1: I'd love to see them utilize Pollard more in the
Speaker 1: passing game. Yeah, you know, even if it's just simple
Speaker 1: stuff like screens and swing passes, but he clearly has
Speaker 1: the speed to do something with that, and it would
Speaker 1: be easy completions for Dak in this situation. I know
Speaker 1: it was mentioned on the broadcast last night, but how
Speaker 1: how much do you think Green Bay missed Cobb last night?
Speaker 1: Just just having a guy especially around the goal line
Speaker 1: and all that, you know, because if you absolutely gonna
Speaker 1: not run the ball, he's a guy that you would
Speaker 1: like to have, you know, work work in the middle there.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about in the first part
Speaker 1: of the show, and I think he is. I mean
Speaker 1: he's on the verge of breaking out, like he I
Speaker 1: wrote about this in my column this week, Like he's
Speaker 1: had five catches for one hundred and twenty yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown called back over the last two weeks. How
Speaker 1: much better would his stats look if if that hadn't happened. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about their linebackers are susceptible to
Speaker 1: play action. This could be a big spot. I would
Speaker 1: love to see that. I think he's so valuable and dangerous.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him have an increased role this week.
Speaker 1: What do the Cowboys need to do? And you guys
Speaker 1: probably won't really have an answer to this, but get
Speaker 1: some interceptions, get some turnovers. They had opportunities. It's exactly
Speaker 1: what I asked Chris Richard that yesterday. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I know this is a hard thing
Speaker 1: to answer, but like, what do you coach these guys,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if there was a coaching point do it,
Speaker 1: then you would do it. And he was like, just
Speaker 1: just catch the ball. And he was like he's like,
Speaker 1: Xavier is gonna be mad at me, but the one
Speaker 1: in Washington, I mean, just catch the ball. I mean
Speaker 1: you just have like you're gonna get one to three
Speaker 1: opportunities at that per game, and you just have to
Speaker 1: cash in on that is I mean, I mean it's
Speaker 1: and it's so upsetting because they're always like so close
Speaker 1: to get Jeff Heath is that against Washington he's thinking,
Speaker 1: he's looking at the defender, he's not even looking at
Speaker 1: the ball, and he gets hit in the head. And
Speaker 1: then last week he's looking at the ball and he
Speaker 1: gets Alan Hearns in the head. What's this? That was
Speaker 1: Cheeto's pick from last it was you're right, yeah, don't
Speaker 1: playoffs ball. I don't remember to they get one against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I don't think so. I don't remember they
Speaker 1: catch the ball. You're gonna you're gonna get an opportunity
Speaker 1: or two. You just have to you have to. All right,
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Speaker 1: You started, Dave. Uh, it's ironic because all week I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, these teams are pretty even, all things being equal,
Speaker 1: and when all things are equal, you should lean toward
Speaker 1: the better quarterback, which it's Dak Prescott in this game.
Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott beat Drew Brees last year and Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater b Russell Wilson on Sunday. So it's not a
Speaker 1: hard and fast rule. I'm still gonna live by it.
Speaker 1: I think these teams are pretty equal. They both have
Speaker 1: great running backs, they both have great receivers. The Saints
Speaker 1: defense isn't playing great right now, but they're at home.
Speaker 1: They've got more talent than the stats suggest. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a walk in the park. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys can hold the Saints to field
Speaker 1: goals when it matters. I see the Saints having to
Speaker 1: settle for like two or three field goals. It won't
Speaker 1: be pretty for all sixty minutes. But I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will look good on offense. I think they can
Speaker 1: get to like twenty seven points and I think they
Speaker 1: win twenty seven twenty three. And Maher is struggling. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's if I got him, scoring twenty seven, then
Speaker 1: that means he's probably gonna kick two field goals. This
Speaker 1: is an extra point. Uh that No, he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna go two of two. They're and they're not. I mean,
Speaker 1: they'll be like forty something yarders. Um, what else do
Speaker 1: I think? I think the game will be in doubt
Speaker 1: down to the end, like the Dallas defense will make
Speaker 1: a stop or something like that. But it'll be stressful.
Speaker 1: But I do think the Cowboys will win. Her hands
Speaker 1: will be sweating at least. Mind will I don't know.
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's there's gonna be It'll be pretty
Speaker 1: cold on the field though towards the end of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got the Cowboys winning. I mean, I've kind of
Speaker 1: gone back and forth a little bit, but then my
Speaker 1: thought all along is just you know, they haven't shown
Speaker 1: me anything yet to suggest that not to pick them. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna play better teams, but I still think that
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be better here. I agree with the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna have to make Bridgewater play
Speaker 1: be more uncomfortable than last week. And I've got the offense,
Speaker 1: you know, staying in that that thirty point range. I
Speaker 1: got them with thirty points. So I'm gonna say Cowboys
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty over the Saints. A little not super comfortable,
Speaker 1: but not a two score game. Thirty twenty all right,
Speaker 1: that's close to where I was thinking. Um, I actually
Speaker 1: think that the final score will look a lot less
Speaker 1: like the game. I think it'll be a close game
Speaker 1: throughout most of the game. I think the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: pull away at the end, though I think ultimately I
Speaker 1: think that this team. I think the Saints what we
Speaker 1: saw last week. I think what we gonna find is
Speaker 1: that their offense is not They can't score at the
Speaker 1: pace that the Cowboys can. And I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will do a good job of not giving away turnovers,
Speaker 1: not allowing those scores that come from special teams, those
Speaker 1: extra things that can sometimes they've got in the way
Speaker 1: of Seattle last week. So I think that at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Dwellan's only get ends up scoring seventeen.
Speaker 1: But I think the Cowboys keep scoring significant amount of
Speaker 1: points like they've done in the first three games. I
Speaker 1: think the final scores thirty four seventeen. I think in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter Cowboys blow the roof off this thing
Speaker 1: and it's it's a Cowboys. It seems like a Cowboys blowout,
Speaker 1: and everybody will be looking at it, and afterwards, as
Speaker 1: revisionist history usually goes, after, everybody will say, well, we
Speaker 1: should have seen this coming, because that offense just isn't
Speaker 1: the same without it. If it's a sixty minute I
Speaker 1: don't care. If it's a sixty minute game, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you win by three scores against the
Speaker 1: roster that's talented in their place, that's really impressive. Well,
Speaker 1: we just finished saying it's gonna be fifty fifty splits.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's I mean, that would be I
Speaker 1: think I said that about the Washington game and they
Speaker 1: kind of did it. Like they won by ten. You know,
Speaker 1: the end of the game kind of detracted from it
Speaker 1: a little bit. But like, you go on the road
Speaker 1: and beat a team that's talented, even without their quarterback
Speaker 1: by seventeen points, that would be very, very impressive. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's gonna be close. Earlier, it probably
Speaker 1: is going to be a point in the game when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't winning. I just think when it's all
Speaker 1: said and done, I think it's going to start feeling
Speaker 1: like a shootout. And what's going to happen is Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna keep scoring in New Orleans won't and I
Speaker 1: think he'll be at the end of the game out.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with your expectations here, but there's been
Speaker 1: like two games that you've been pretty close this year.
Speaker 1: We've all been pretty good this year, Like we've all
Speaker 1: picked comfortable wins three weeks in a row. I'm talking
Speaker 1: to score. I was three points off in both the
Speaker 1: last two games. I was a lot closer the first
Speaker 1: two weeks. Last week I kind of slipped. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: um again, there are some people that are already bought
Speaker 1: in with the Cowboys and what are doing right now,
Speaker 1: and then there are some others there aren't just yet.
Speaker 1: Alex Comatch ask if the Cowboys are to be the Saint, So,
Speaker 1: what do you need to see from their plays to
Speaker 1: rainforce your belief that they are a top five NFL team?
Speaker 1: What do I need to like? Something specific? Like the
Speaker 1: plays they run they're like, I mean, win by seventeen,
Speaker 1: win by seventeen, and the entire I mean again, I
Speaker 1: don't care if your breeze isn't there. If you go
Speaker 1: in there and win by seventeen. Everybody in America is
Speaker 1: going to be talking about him on Monday morning, specifically
Speaker 1: stopping Kamara, because the Seahawks could not do that at home.
Speaker 1: And you know, now there's a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: how he's a he's not just a gadget player. He's
Speaker 1: in every down back and he's one of the best
Speaker 1: in the leagues. And everybody who plays fantasy football knows
Speaker 1: that he's one of the top guys. And if they
Speaker 1: go in there and tackle them, wrap them up and
Speaker 1: keep him at the same level they had last year,
Speaker 1: which was I believe thirty six rushing yards in thirty
Speaker 1: six receiving yards in the range three point seven yards
Speaker 1: per touch, win the game and kind of stop their
Speaker 1: best player. Yeah, I'll throw this in, like, if keep
Speaker 1: keep doing the things you've been doing against bad teams
Speaker 1: against a good team, so efficiency in the red zone,
Speaker 1: Like let's say they get down there four times, score
Speaker 1: touchdowns three times, convert third downs at the click you
Speaker 1: have been which is forty to sixty percent. If you're
Speaker 1: doing you know, bad third down percentage. If they hold
Speaker 1: the Saints to twenty or less or twenty four or
Speaker 1: less in their house. Again, that's how you get people
Speaker 1: talking about you being impressive is doing the stuff that
Speaker 1: looked easy against bad teams against a good team. But
Speaker 1: you know, as we talked about before, when you talk
Speaker 1: to start talking about what people are gonna say, it's
Speaker 1: a moving target. Like I said, if the Cowboys go
Speaker 1: out and play an excellent game this week, I still
Speaker 1: think there will be people that will say, well, they
Speaker 1: did it without Breeze, you know, and then you go
Speaker 1: and you play the Packers, Well they did it without Davante. Like,
Speaker 1: there will always be reasons until you get to the
Speaker 1: game against New England, where people will say they'll figure
Speaker 1: out a reason why, Well, maybe they aren't as good
Speaker 1: as we think they are. Let's just hold and see.
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, that's fine, you're not.
Speaker 1: This is not a popularity contest. It's not like college
Speaker 1: where you have to impress in order to rise in
Speaker 1: the polls. But the end of the day, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to show it one life. Though people
Speaker 1: do that, there's people that are like wow, yeah, but
Speaker 1: not like I'm saying that that that question that it
Speaker 1: just really like, at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: not going to matter what they do. Not only it
Speaker 1: just went you're right, but like that is it's it's
Speaker 1: so it's a fun thing about football fandom is like
Speaker 1: we're in this bubble of like we don't really deal
Speaker 1: with people that aren't associated with the Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: we work for the team. We spend our lives surrounded
Speaker 1: by the team. Like that matters to people because like
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys look like crap, their cousin's gonna call
Speaker 1: them when the game's over, or like the guy that
Speaker 1: has the cube next to them is like a big
Speaker 1: freaking deal. They didn't have Drew Brees, Like of course
Speaker 1: you won, and like and you don't get the satisfaction
Speaker 1: out of the win, Like I get that, but for
Speaker 1: the purposes that no matter what, yeah, right, for the
Speaker 1: purposes of whether or not this team is actually any good,
Speaker 1: none of that matter. But again, it's the trends, like
Speaker 1: are you converting third downs? Are you converting in the
Speaker 1: red zone? Are you limiting the run? You know, there's
Speaker 1: a what like the Cowboys could win this game twenty
Speaker 1: to seventeen and look like crap doing so, and you
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, that's problematic. You know, like if
Speaker 1: they're three or fourteen on third down, but they do
Speaker 1: just enough to eke out a win. A win's a win.
Speaker 1: But you're like, oh, maybe this offense isn't what we
Speaker 1: thought it was, you know. I mean, so it just
Speaker 1: depends on what happens. But those are the guidelines I'm
Speaker 1: looking for. Ye Now, what would you say is the
Speaker 1: Cowboys weakest link, weakest area both It could be either
Speaker 1: on offense or defense. Going up against the Saints this weekend,
Speaker 1: the area where they I want to see you expect
Speaker 1: them to struggle the most. I don't expect them to struggle,
Speaker 1: but I mean I have a close eye on the linebackers.
Speaker 1: We talked about it all week. There's you know, people
Speaker 1: are debating whether or not Jalen's you know, any good
Speaker 1: or whatever. In Layton. Van hasn't been bad, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't played like an all pro And this is going
Speaker 1: to be a test, Like they're playing a guy that
Speaker 1: will test them. So that's what I'm watching. I think
Speaker 1: for me, the receivers, they got to get open, and
Speaker 1: you know they did in the second half, but they
Speaker 1: struggled in the first half to get open and Dak
Speaker 1: had time and I don't think he'll have as much
Speaker 1: time as he did in that game and the receipt
Speaker 1: and I think the cornerbacks in the secondary is better
Speaker 1: for the Saint. So these guys without Gallup, they've got
Speaker 1: to get open and I think that'll be the key there,
Speaker 1: I will say, And it's similar what Dave was saying,
Speaker 1: but I'll take it a little bit farther. It's really
Speaker 1: the rush defense for me, because when this team over
Speaker 1: the last two years, over the last season and the
Speaker 1: beginning of this season, when you've seen any chink in
Speaker 1: their armory, it typically has revolved around them not being
Speaker 1: able to stop the run. And they've lost some games
Speaker 1: against good teams for not being able to stop the run.
Speaker 1: So I want to see this week when you have
Speaker 1: a Camara who is the primary running back. Last year
Speaker 1: he was a guy that was split and carries. He's
Speaker 1: the primary guy. Now with him being the primary guy,
Speaker 1: can you consistently stop him throughout the game around the
Speaker 1: outside of the biddle, all the different things he does?
Speaker 1: Can you stop him? And And that to me is
Speaker 1: about that whole front seven. Can they can they do
Speaker 1: a good job, a good enough job to be able
Speaker 1: to bottle him up and not let him break tackles
Speaker 1: and turn what would be small gains into much bigger gains. Now,
Speaker 1: just to finish up, I know we've talked and you've
Speaker 1: given the scouting report on the Saints and all that. Um,
Speaker 1: I see someone asking who offensively outside of Kamara Kimara
Speaker 1: whatever or and Thomas Post the biggest threat for the Cowboys. Wait,
Speaker 1: you're saying a Saint's offensive play other than than those
Speaker 1: two guys. I think. I mean, he can run and
Speaker 1: he can fly by you. Ted again, tray Kuan Smith
Speaker 1: is better than this show has given him credit for.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's he gonna play? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's he was. He miss practiced the first two days.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did today. That's well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I think. I'm sure he missed two days already.
Speaker 1: They keep getting breaks then, which in that case I
Speaker 1: would probably again. Yeah, I mean, you could say Jared Cooke,
Speaker 1: but tight end. What I was gonna say about Trey
Speaker 1: Quon Smith is I don't if Drew Brees is there,
Speaker 1: I feel a lot worse about it. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily trust Teddy Bridgewater to make that happen. And
Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way about Jared Cook.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think he caught one ball for
Speaker 1: seven yards against Seattle, and I know they've really tamped
Speaker 1: down their game plan. But still, but that's the only
Speaker 1: reason I would say maybe Jared Cook is because again,
Speaker 1: for for a lot of quarterbacks, to tight end represents
Speaker 1: what is the easiest throw, the easiest identification of an
Speaker 1: open guy. And so if you get in that kind
Speaker 1: of situation, well, maybe this creates some opportunities where he
Speaker 1: and Bridgewater start connecting a little bit more. They're obviously
Speaker 1: practicing together. I mean, you don't get snaps when you're
Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks. Jared Cook's first game against the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: since you know what, he made that bank from the
Speaker 1: big catch, he ain't doing that with Teddy Bridgewater. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I'm making that threat. I think I don't maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I don't think we have to say bye yeah
Speaker 1: for us to get off. How about this handle handle
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara And if somebody else finds
Speaker 1: a way to beat you, then that's just bad luck.
Speaker 1: I think we'll be okay. All right, Well, there you go,
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