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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a break from the dating episodes

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Speaker 1: and talk about friendships. I talk to guests often about

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Speaker 1: making friends in adulthood because so many people have moved

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Speaker 1: in the last few years. I just think it's been

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Speaker 1: a few years of major transitions for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Think COVID really shook things up, and that of course

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Speaker 1: includes me. I grew up in Brooklyn, and other than

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Speaker 1: leaving for college and some other short stints some elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: I spent my life in New York City. New York

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Speaker 1: was my small town. I'd run into people all the time.

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Speaker 1: I had my favorite dry cleaner, my favorite shoe repair guy,

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Speaker 1: my favorite nail salon, all of it. The hardest part

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Speaker 1: has been being apart from family, obviously, but changing my

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Speaker 1: entire life in my forties has been challenging in some

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Speaker 1: other ways too. The making friends' part is difficult. We're

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Speaker 1: lucky we knew a lot of people moving to Florida.

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Speaker 1: Florida became kind of the state for a while there,

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Speaker 1: and people were moving around the same time we did.

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Speaker 1: Acquaintances became friends. You might see some of that on

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Speaker 1: my social media. We're busy a lot. It's not that

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Speaker 1: we don't have real friends here.

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Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 1: We're missing something else or I am. I don't think

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Speaker 1: my husband cares about this at all. The difficult spot

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Speaker 1: for me has been more situational friends. I wrote about

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Speaker 1: something similar to this years ago in twenty sixteen, when

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Speaker 1: we actually moved from Manhattan to Brooklyn. I wrote what

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Speaker 1: I was missing more than anything was acquaintances. I knew

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Speaker 1: few people in our new hood and didn't have many

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Speaker 1: opportunities to meet anyone. I work from home, and since

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Speaker 1: we moved midyear, our children weren't going to school in

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood yet. I didn't recognize faces on the street

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Speaker 1: like I had on the Upper West Side. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have other moms to chit chat with as our kids

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Speaker 1: played on the swings. People are strange when you're a stranger.

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Speaker 1: The lack of acquaintances translated into lacking a sense of

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Speaker 1: being a part of a community, which made me feel isolated.

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Speaker 1: So that is very similar to what I'm feeling right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not feeling isolated because again, I feel very busy,

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Speaker 1: very active. I have a lot of socializing going on,

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Speaker 1: but I don't have this other thing. So also from

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Speaker 1: that same piece from twenty sixteen, I wrote, it's worthwhile,

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Speaker 1: of course, to cultivate deep, lasting friendships, but it's also

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Speaker 1: important to appreciate the more casual friendships that are part

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Speaker 1: of our daily routines. And of course those deep friendships

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Speaker 1: of ours began somewhere. The person who currently only garners

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Speaker 1: ahead nod as you pass in the street may someday

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Speaker 1: be the one you call at three am. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I'm missing that. And the truth is I'm not even

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Speaker 1: in the head nodding place with anybody. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: have to add some head nods in my life.

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Speaker 3: We've lived in.

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Speaker 1: Our neighborhood for a little over two years. I know

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Speaker 1: some people on our street. I really like them. We're

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Speaker 1: great friends with our neighbors. We hang out with them,

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Speaker 1: and our kids hang out. I have it. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that many people here. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: many people in my community. And this is one of

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Speaker 1: the things that I actively want to change going into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. And the thing is, shortly after I

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Speaker 1: wrote that twenty sixteen piece, which by the way, was

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Speaker 1: in the New York Post, if you're interested. I actually

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Speaker 1: found a closer community more than ever. I made acquaintances,

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Speaker 1: they became friends, and they were the ones that were

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Speaker 1: so hard for me to leave when we moved to Florida.

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Speaker 1: Those first steps, they're just so difficult. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as I get older, I've had moments where I've introduced

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Speaker 1: myself to someone and they're like, yeah, we've met, kind

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Speaker 1: of embarrassing. I keep memorizing what people are wearing when

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Speaker 1: I meet them, and friends, that is not a good

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Speaker 1: strategy for remembering people. Apparently they have more than just

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Speaker 1: the one outfit. So I'm going to try to do

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Speaker 1: better at this because I think it matters. Having friends

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Speaker 1: is good and necessary, but acquaintances are so important too,

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Speaker 1: and I need to go make some. If you've got thoughts,

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Speaker 1: drop me an email. Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's Ka R O L M A. R. Kowiicz Show

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Speaker 1: link Lauren. Join us after the break. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Link.

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Speaker 1: Lauren Link is an influencer and former senior advisor to

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Speaker 3: Hi, Link, So nice to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great to meet you. Carol, wish we were hanging

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Speaker 2: out in person.

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Speaker 3: I know, I feel like you know, I've seen a

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Speaker 3: lot of your stuff. I think that you're really cool.

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Speaker 3: You're in your.

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Speaker 1: Twenties and you were or you are, a British Royal

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Speaker 1: Family commentator.

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Speaker 3: So how did you get into politics? Tell me the

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Speaker 3: whole story. Start at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: You know, I went to NYU. My graduation was in

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Speaker 2: May of twenty twenty two, when everybody was getting into TikTok.

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Speaker 2: But at the time people were doing these dances, it

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Speaker 2: was very crange. I thought, what am I going to

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Speaker 2: do on TikTok? So I started covering pop culture and news,

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Speaker 2: and at the time there was a lot going on

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Speaker 2: queen passing away, May she rest in peace, and my

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Speaker 2: breakout moment pretty much came last May of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: So May six, you had King Charles coronation and I

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Speaker 2: And then that same month, in May of twenty three,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump did a town hall on CNN with Caitln

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Speaker 2: The CCEN and viewers were melting down. They were apoplectic,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing having Donald Trump on? And I

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Speaker 2: set my phone up and I did a video Carol explaining, Look,

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Speaker 2: we can't live in our own little worlds, we can't

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Speaker 2: live in our silos. We have to have conversation across

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Speaker 2: the aisle. And that's where my political commentary started.

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Speaker 3: Did that make you very popular with your NYU friends?

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Speaker 2: So not really. Most of my friends at NYU were

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Speaker 2: super far left liberal, but that's totally fine. That's their

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Speaker 2: holding space for everyone. Of course, by today's standards, my

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Speaker 2: But I grew up in Dallas Tech Dallas, Texas, in

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Speaker 2: a conservative environment. Went to an all boys school. Then

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Speaker 2: I moved to New York lived in the village, and

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Speaker 2: so I've always been able to kind of find common

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Speaker 3: Have you lost any friends over this?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have. Actually, I remember after my TikTok took

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Speaker 2: off last spring, you know, RFK reached out at the

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Speaker 2: end of June and then the vag Ramaswami was great.

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Speaker 2: He had me come on the trail to Iowa and

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Speaker 2: filmed some content with him, and I didn't really know

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Speaker 2: who he was at the time. This was before the

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Speaker 2: first debate, and so I posted some videos just asking

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Speaker 2: I got to the airport the next morning in Des Moines, Iowa,

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Speaker 2: I'd received a letter from old friends of mine saying

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Speaker 2: I'm a disgusting foot liquor the embarrassed to know me.

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Speaker 2: I'm even being friends with the Republican, I said, being friends.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here asking questions like any journalist would.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, how dare you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is all yeah, so how did you

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Speaker 2: So they had seen the videos I was doing on

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Speaker 2: the campaign last spring. I said, look, there's this guy RFKA.

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Speaker 2: At the time, he was running as a Democrat. I said,

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Speaker 2: here's what I think he's doing. Well, here's what I

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Speaker 2: think he could be doing better. He's from the Kennedy

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Speaker 2: family dynasty. Somehow I don't know much about him. American Royalty, yes,

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Speaker 2: Mariam Royalty. And a man named Rob Luceiro on the

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Speaker 2: telefundraising team for the Kennedy campaign had followed me and

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Speaker 2: he kept seeing these videos and he said, do you

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Speaker 2: video with him? And I said absolutely, And he said

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Speaker 2: I went. I filmed content with Bobby. I met some

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Speaker 2: of giving me his cell phone number.

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Speaker 3: You're like and now we are best friends.

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Speaker 2: Over the course of the next few weeks, I would

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Speaker 2: doing this RF case, I would text him and say, buddy,

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Speaker 2: why are you doing this? You should talk about this.

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Speaker 2: This is huge news. Your campaign has its great treatment

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Speaker 2: on it. No, and behold they reached out to me.

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Speaker 2: The campaign manager at the time was leaving. There was

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Speaker 2: I was her first hire and best hire. But maybe

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Speaker 2: she tells everybody that I love it. So I'm grateful

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Speaker 2: that they took me on board, and I'm grateful for

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Speaker 2: the experience and the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: What do you think politicians misunderstand about the useful think?

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Speaker 2: They overthink how to reach us? If that makes sense, right.

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Speaker 2: They think it's rocket science. How are we going to

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Speaker 2: reach gen Z? How are we going to reach Gen alpha?

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Speaker 2: These young voters? It's so simple identify our top concerns

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Speaker 2: and then lay out policies to address those concerns. So

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Speaker 2: the number one issue for young people right now is

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Speaker 2: affordable housing. How can I have a roof over my head?

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Speaker 2: How can I pay for my rent? You know, owning

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Speaker 2: a home is such a distant fantasy provitation, having equity

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Speaker 2: and an asset like that is so foreign, right. We

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Speaker 2: just want to pay our rent. And so if a

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Speaker 2: politician can identify that need and lay out maybe a

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Speaker 2: five point plan, the six point plan of how they're

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Speaker 2: going to help them, Hey, you might bring these young

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Speaker 2: people into your coalition, but they really overthink it. They

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Speaker 2: So everybody's going through it. Don't boo hoo for chin

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Speaker 2: Z at all. I don't, But you know, a great country.

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Speaker 2: I would rather live in America than any other country

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Speaker 3: I love that perspective. I'm glad you say that about America.

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Speaker 3: I love hearing that from young people. And I'm an immigrant.

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Speaker 1: I just I think appreciating what we have here is

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I get confused on.

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Speaker 2: People say, oh, I hate America and I hate this

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Speaker 2: tell you, even on America's worst day, I would rather

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Speaker 2: You mentioned your an immigrant as well. It's like, look,

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Speaker 3: Any day of the week. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've loved this conversation link. You're so interesting, And

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Speaker 1: here with your best tip for my listeners on how they.

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Speaker 3: Can of their lives.

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Speaker 2: My best tip of your listeners on how they can

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Speaker 2: improve their lives is just to be authentic. I really

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Speaker 2: think truth and authenticity are the hottest commodities right now.

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Speaker 2: You do nobody any favors by trying to be a

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Speaker 2: chameleon or trying to fit in or alter what you

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Speaker 2: have to say. Have a unique perspective, be authentic, Speak

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Speaker 2: your truth. That is going to open doors for you

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Speaker 2: more than anything else in your life.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's I feel the exact same way he is.

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Speaker 1: Link Lauren check him out on every app right, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all of.

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Speaker 2: That TikTok, Instagram. He does it all on my space.

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Speaker 2: That was before my time, but that was that was

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Speaker 2: a good one.

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Speaker 3: You got to play music on your page.

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Speaker 1: Was fun so much. Thank you Link, thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Carol Mark

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