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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Eddy.

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<v Speaker 3>The next steps for China, sir, Well, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens with China. We would love to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>work a deal. They've really taken advantage of our country

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<v Speaker 3>for a long period of time. They've ripped us off

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<v Speaker 3>beyond anybody, nobody. How people stood for it, sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>my position is not even believable. And we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>many presidents, not just in a couple, but they did,

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<v Speaker 3>and Alwadi is putting it back in shape. We're resetting

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<v Speaker 3>the table.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's from a cabinet meeting that they had yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>We got some more audio from from that coming up

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<v Speaker 4>in just a second. But in case you're not hipped

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<v Speaker 4>to a couple of the developments that happened in the

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<v Speaker 4>last twenty four hours. The market was reacting and people

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about tariffs on all Chinese goods being at

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and twenty five percent I think anyway, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>pointed out later in the day, No, no, it's actually

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and forty five percent. So I'm adding this

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<v Speaker 4>to the other thing that I had like a month

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<v Speaker 4>ago or whatever. So the tariff on all Chinese goods

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<v Speaker 4>coming into the United States, the stuff on all the

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<v Speaker 4>shelves and Walmart or the buy on Amazon that's from China,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and forty five percent right now. And as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as that news was clarified, the Dow tumbled quite

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<v Speaker 4>a bit yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>As everybody caught onto that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then overnight tariff China announced they're raising their tariff

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<v Speaker 4>on all US goods coming into their country to one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty five percent, So one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 4>five coming to the US one hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>going into China. That is a full blown trade war

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<v Speaker 4>between the two biggest economies that have ever existed.

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<v Speaker 1>On the planet. So that's that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Got some more commentary for variety of people on that

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<v Speaker 4>how that's going to play out. I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 4>and neither does anybody else. I don't think Trump is

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<v Speaker 4>betting his entire presidency on a good outcome, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>Marco Rubio pretty serious guy. He was asked about this

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday in the cabinet meeting. This is what he said, Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister President, one of the most important things I believe

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<v Speaker 5>that you'll achieve in your presidency is re ordering the

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<v Speaker 5>world in a proper way. For thirty one years, more

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<v Speaker 5>than thirty one years now, multiple administrations have allowed the

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<v Speaker 5>Chinese to de industrialize this country, to take away jobs

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<v Speaker 5>and factories and the pillars of our national strength. And

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<v Speaker 5>what you're doing now, I think is a great service

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<v Speaker 5>to our country, but ultimately to the world. And I

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<v Speaker 5>want to congratulate you on your team that's working on that,

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<v Speaker 5>because that has extraordinary geopolitical implications, as you see from

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<v Speaker 5>all these other countries that are now coming here and

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<v Speaker 5>wanting to join something that actually makes just this it's

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<v Speaker 5>crazy to allow these I mean, basically, we lived in

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<v Speaker 5>a world where country Chinese companies can do whatever they

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<v Speaker 5>want in America, but our companies cannot do anything over

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<v Speaker 5>there unless they allow it, and even then they steal

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<v Speaker 5>our stuff and reverse engineer it. So just reordering all

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<v Speaker 5>that as traumatic implications on peace of security of the world.

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<v Speaker 5>So we thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>China has been ripping off the entire world, and since

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<v Speaker 4>we're the biggest economy, it affected us the most. For

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<v Speaker 4>a very very long time acknowledging that I'm all for.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a good idea. Whether this total tariff

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<v Speaker 4>thing is what's going to fix that, I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>any idea. This story got a lot of attention yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's overblown. This is from ABC News.

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<v Speaker 6>Already consumers are feeling the effects. One shopper for Athletic

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<v Speaker 6>where spotting something different on an invoice from a recent order,

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<v Speaker 6>a new line that says tariff surcharge sixteen dollars and

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<v Speaker 6>sixty two cents.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, so one place somewhere they put on the

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<v Speaker 4>receipt tariff search. I saw that on like eight different

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<v Speaker 4>news sources yesterday. Okay, is that sweeping the nation? Are

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<v Speaker 4>lots of businesses doing that? Because I saw the same

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<v Speaker 4>one over and over again. So come on news. If

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<v Speaker 4>that's the only one in the country, it means nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>If we all start seeing that on receipts, obviously it

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<v Speaker 4>means a lot. But the Trump aiding media loved that story.

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<v Speaker 4>How about this. This is a person on CNN also

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<v Speaker 4>with a negative spin on it.

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<v Speaker 2>The global economy from inflation numbers that we've got, it's slowing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get much worse because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has to readjust their supply lines to accommodate this

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<v Speaker 2>new reality.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that side of it.

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<v Speaker 4>How about we hear the other side of it, people

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<v Speaker 4>who think this is gonna work. Maria Bartiromo on Hannity

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<v Speaker 4>last night, fifty.

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<v Speaker 7>Four, Michael, President Trump is not going to back down

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<v Speaker 7>on this because at this point we all know who

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<v Speaker 7>the adversary slash enemy is, and the US consumer is

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<v Speaker 7>paramount here. China needs to sell all of those products

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<v Speaker 7>that they're producing for the world to the very powerful

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<v Speaker 7>US consumer. So if China wants to keep doubling down,

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<v Speaker 7>it is not going to be good for the Chinese economy.

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<v Speaker 8>The economy there right.

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<v Speaker 7>Now is a lot weaker than people know, and this

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<v Speaker 7>huge tariff on its products is not going to be good.

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<v Speaker 9>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a heck of a thing for the world economy.

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<v Speaker 4>The two biggest economies locked in a trade war in

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<v Speaker 4>a situation where there are two men and two men

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<v Speaker 4>only really that are, you know, playing a game of

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<v Speaker 4>chicken and staring each other down. She and Trumps. You

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't think this many trillions of dollars could be on

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<v Speaker 4>the line and in the hands of or in the

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<v Speaker 4>minds of just two guys, it's really quite extraordinary. We

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<v Speaker 4>like Victor David Hanson, historian, and which he's very proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how he thinks it's going to play out.

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<v Speaker 10>If Donald Trump can cut a deal with one major player,

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<v Speaker 10>and I think that Scott dosn't can, preferably in Europe,

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<v Speaker 10>because what he's basically saying, if it's reciprocal or no tariffs,

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<v Speaker 10>zero tariffs, they're going to want to make a deal

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<v Speaker 10>just one or two major players, and I think all

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<v Speaker 10>the rest will follow, and China's not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't claim to know anything about this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I do kind of get the geopolitics of it, though,

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<v Speaker 4>and I could certainly believe that she thinks that United

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<v Speaker 4>States because he doesn't. They don't, you know, Communists don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe in democracies, don't believe democracies work because the authoritarianism

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<v Speaker 4>is a way to go, because then you can make

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<v Speaker 4>all these important decisions that the populace is not smart

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<v Speaker 4>enough to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So she thinks that.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be enough political pressure and enough negative news

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<v Speaker 4>on this that Trump will brett back down. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is the rare rarest of rare birds. We were

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<v Speaker 4>talking about profiles and lack of courage with Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 4>Last Hour with Lonnie Chen. If you didn't hear that,

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<v Speaker 4>get the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But it

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<v Speaker 4>is a profile and courage, perhaps some of you think misplaced,

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<v Speaker 4>But it is a profile and courage to lay your

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<v Speaker 4>entire presidency on the line for this. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>Trump will stick with it and not blink in the

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<v Speaker 4>way that president she thinks, and maybe at some point

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<v Speaker 4>President she realizes, Wow, this guy is crazy enough to

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<v Speaker 4>take this clear to the wall. We got to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>We gotta call him up and make a deal. I

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<v Speaker 4>hope that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there one more clip that I wanted to have?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I had one more. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe later I didn't want to hit you with this

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<v Speaker 4>from the Wall Street Journal one more time. This is

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<v Speaker 4>from the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal. What

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<v Speaker 4>investors know is that the trade war is far from

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<v Speaker 4>over and damage persists even with the ninety day pause.

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<v Speaker 1>The tariffs that continue on all other countries and.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and forty five percent on China are the

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<v Speaker 4>largest tax increase on the American people since nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 4>They're bigger than Bill Clinton's nineteen ninety three tax increase

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<v Speaker 4>and George HW. Bush's in nineteen ninety taxes, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>are anti growths, as the Wall Street Journal, Trump believes

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<v Speaker 4>that it is worth it. I'll play one more clip

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<v Speaker 4>for you. This is Trump and the term he's using

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<v Speaker 4>to describe this clip forty. If you would, Michael, clip forty.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Trump describing what this is. He's not denying

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<v Speaker 4>that there's going to be this giant tax using my

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<v Speaker 4>finger quotes on the American people. He's just saying it's

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<v Speaker 4>part of the plant. Which slip was that forty.

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<v Speaker 1>So we think we're in very good shape. We think

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing very well. Again.

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<v Speaker 3>There'll be a transition cost and.

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<v Speaker 11>Transition problems, but in the end it's going to be

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<v Speaker 11>it's going to be a beautiful thing. We're doing again

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<v Speaker 11>what we should have done many years ago. We'll let

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<v Speaker 11>it get out of control, and we allowed some countries

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<v Speaker 11>to get very big and very rich at our expense,

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<v Speaker 11>and we're not gonna can't let that happen.

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<v Speaker 9>Can't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a sustainable.

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<v Speaker 4>Formula transition costs, which I guarantee you will be mocked

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<v Speaker 4>greatly by the left as these higher prices start to

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<v Speaker 4>hit in the next days, weeks, months, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how long that's going to take. You're gonna hear that

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<v Speaker 4>over and over again in a mocking way. The Biden

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<v Speaker 4>administration tried to pretend that inflation wasn't real and wasn't happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's going with the Yeah, this is gonna happen, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be painful, but it's a transition we

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<v Speaker 4>have to go through to get where we want to

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<v Speaker 4>be and get China to back down, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 4>if he's right or not. But so that's what we

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<v Speaker 4>all get to look forward to in the spring. In

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<v Speaker 4>the summer, maybe change your vacation plans or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, there's some news out in the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 4>today that just came out in the last couple hours

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<v Speaker 4>about consumer confidence that is really not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll get to that at a different time. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 12>Trump's getting his physical tomorrow, and while I'm sure his

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<v Speaker 12>doctors will be very thorough, I wanted to ask him

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<v Speaker 12>some questions myself. So if you don't mind, thank you,

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<v Speaker 12>mister president, thank you for talking to us about your health.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, how much do you weigh? That's classified information.

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<v Speaker 12>I understood, But how would you describe yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a perfect physical specimen and I'm very very.

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<v Speaker 12>Young, Kem Burman, He says, here you're getting a proseate exam.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that going to go for you?

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<v Speaker 4>You are going to hear the wailing and shrieking.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's enough.

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<v Speaker 12>Now forgive me for asking, but are you getting up

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of night to Yearnate?

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<v Speaker 1>It goes drip? Okay?

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<v Speaker 12>Just for just for our record, can you tell me

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<v Speaker 12>the name of your doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor had of electric? Okay, very good?

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<v Speaker 12>And uh, who would you like to put as your

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<v Speaker 12>emergency contact?

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<v Speaker 5>There?

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<v Speaker 8>Your wife Elon Musk Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's always exciting every year, well it has been

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<v Speaker 4>for the last couple of terms because we have such

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<v Speaker 4>ancient presidents. Wasn't really a big deal when it was

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<v Speaker 4>Barack obaum Er George H. W.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush.

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<v Speaker 4>You looked at him and thought, Okay, you're about fifty

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<v Speaker 4>and you look to be in really good shape, So

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<v Speaker 4>what are you getting physical? But now that we got

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<v Speaker 4>really really old presidents. It's kind of interesting. I wonder

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<v Speaker 4>how honest they'll be about his height and weight and

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<v Speaker 4>blood pressure and everything. Of course, they weren't honest about

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden's mental capacity at all. Some texts we got

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<v Speaker 4>coming in. Oh, first, someone to mention the uh, how

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<v Speaker 4>about that ballerina we got back from Russia. That story

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<v Speaker 4>is interesting. Maybe we'll talk more about that later. We

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<v Speaker 4>traded a scumbag criminal Russian to Vladimir to get back

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<v Speaker 4>this ballerina whose crime was she donated fifty four dollars

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<v Speaker 4>to a Ukrainian cause yep, and Russia grabbed off for

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<v Speaker 4>twelve years. He's going to put in a Russian prison

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<v Speaker 4>for twelve years, and she's young. We got to put

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<v Speaker 4>a stop to that. We can't have North Korea, Iran, Russia,

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<v Speaker 4>China grabbing citizens off the street and then they get

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<v Speaker 4>back scumbag criminals in return. We got to end that somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>But different topic for a different time from the text line.

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<v Speaker 4>I was talking a fair amount about corporate training, because

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<v Speaker 4>I spent a couple hours doing that yesterday. Not to

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<v Speaker 4>complain about the company I work for. Every company does it.

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<v Speaker 4>I realize they're forced to do it. It's not their choice,

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<v Speaker 4>but we all know it's a complete waste of time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I it's one of the things I wish Doge

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<v Speaker 4>could get rid of. It is unproductive, it's a waste

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<v Speaker 4>of money, and we all know that. You know it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when you tell your boss you finished the training,

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<v Speaker 4>he knows it's a waste of time, or she and

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<v Speaker 4>their boss knows it's a waste of time. Yet we

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<v Speaker 4>all I'll do it. We got text from people in

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<v Speaker 4>different areas of work. Oh, we talked about how there,

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<v Speaker 4>Why are they so long? And I said that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they have to be a certain length. Yes, actually it's

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<v Speaker 4>legislated that some mandatory training be at least a particular length,

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<v Speaker 4>like two hours or whatever. No mention of mastery of

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<v Speaker 4>the topic or what you learned, just the amount of

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<v Speaker 4>time spent. Oh, for cry it out loud, how government

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<v Speaker 4>is that it doesn't matter whether you actually learned anything

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<v Speaker 4>or it's accomplishing anything. It's just got to be this

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<v Speaker 4>length an hour and twenty minutes, to prove that you've.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because the government says so.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this sort of thing so much.

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<v Speaker 4>We got this text, I just got to work an

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<v Speaker 4>hour early to do harassment training for the third time.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year, three times a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though studies show it doesn't accomplish anything.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, it leads to.

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<v Speaker 4>More sexual harassment, but it doesn't. I assume you all

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<v Speaker 4>know this, but I'll say it for the eighty millionth time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's to keep the lawyers at bay. If they give

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<v Speaker 4>this sexual harassment training and you get you sexually harassed somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't go to the company and say I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't supposed to slap her on the ass, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you sue the company for a million dollars and

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<v Speaker 4>a jury full of morons. And that's why we are

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<v Speaker 4>always yes, serve on juries. Don't try to get out

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<v Speaker 4>of jury duty because you don't want morons. Well, who

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<v Speaker 4>say the company owes this guy millions of dollars because

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<v Speaker 4>he claims he didn't know he was most slapper on

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<v Speaker 4>the ass because he didn't get any training. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing all this training to avoid those lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very maddening. Different topic.

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<v Speaker 4>I brought up how I spilled coffee all over my

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<v Speaker 4>chest on the way to work, like I often do

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<v Speaker 4>because I can't drink out of most travel mugs. I

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<v Speaker 4>just they don't work for me, and I've gotten a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of text from people who have had the same

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<v Speaker 4>problem who really like some of them. The Zorushie zog

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<v Speaker 4>Rushie sixteen out stainless steel muggets the best. The lid

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<v Speaker 4>opens past one hundred and eighty degrees so that your

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<v Speaker 4>nose has space. Everybody have the same complaint as me.

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<v Speaker 4>If the flip up lid doesn't fold back far enough,

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<v Speaker 4>your nose gets in the way, so you have to

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<v Speaker 4>tip the cup up so high to drink out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not looking at the roads. You can't drink it

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<v Speaker 4>while you drive your car. I'm looking at this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Still still some head tipping required.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Other people suggested the Stanley mug. That is very

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<v Speaker 1>very good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like forty Bucks or the Broommate. I'm not advertising

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<v Speaker 4>any of these. The Broommate specifically because the lid flops

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<v Speaker 4>all the way back.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can drink out of your coffee mug.

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<v Speaker 8>So okay, this one looks like it might be a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to point out I'm not the only

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<v Speaker 4>person that has noticed that flaw in the design of

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<v Speaker 4>the little thing. That flips up. Look at this one

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<v Speaker 4>my nose right there. That's how far I can tip

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<v Speaker 4>the thing. You can't drink coffee like that.

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<v Speaker 8>No, you cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta tip your head way back that it's this

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<v Speaker 1>is tragic.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I recommend to yetti.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that. Yeah, my wife has them. We use

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<v Speaker 1>them all the time. They're not cheap.

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<v Speaker 13>You're drinking out of a thirty dollars Starbucks mug that

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<v Speaker 13>you don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's true.

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<v Speaker 8>And the YETI is thirty dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk to my clients coming up a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit and one to get him on for weeks. We

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<v Speaker 4>could talk about the fact that we're going to bomb

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<v Speaker 4>the crap out of Iran soon. We could talk about

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<v Speaker 4>obviously Israel or Ukraine. I don't know if I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>to that. China getting jump here all the time. How

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<v Speaker 4>about Trump fire in all these military people, a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>of different generals in various positions, and the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the NPR world calling it a purge. Is this something

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<v Speaker 4>I should be worried about or is he just putting

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<v Speaker 4>people in place that agree with his philosophy more. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not particularly worried about it. One time, we are quoting

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<v Speaker 4>retired generals to Mike Lions, and I remember him saying,

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<v Speaker 4>there's like a thousand retired generals out there, So just

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<v Speaker 4>because there's a retired general, you don't have to give

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<v Speaker 4>them some extra credit on what they have to say. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll talk to Mike Lions coming up. If you miss

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<v Speaker 4>a seconment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>An important meeting, thanks to you, is going to happen

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<v Speaker 5>on Saturday for the first time in a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll be direct talks to Ambassador Woodcoff and a top

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<v Speaker 5>level leader in Iran. We hope that'll lead to peace.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been very clear what Iran is never going to

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<v Speaker 5>have as a nuclear weapon, and I think that's what

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<v Speaker 5>led to this meeting. We'll wait for him to come

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<v Speaker 5>back from it, and we're hopeful about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Marco Rubio saying it. Trump says it regularly.

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<v Speaker 4>I do remember hearing various presidents say, for instance, North

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<v Speaker 4>Korea would never get a nuclear weapon, or other people

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<v Speaker 4>would never get to do this or that, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they do it anyway, and we don't stop them. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>don't go into Ukraine, for instance, don't go into crimea

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<v Speaker 4>joining us on the Armstrong and Getty Show, Mike Lions

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<v Speaker 4>is our go to whenever we're talking about this sort

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. Mike served with various military organizations in the

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<v Speaker 4>US and Europe throughout his career. He served in Operation

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<v Speaker 4>Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Ordered A Bronze Star. Also

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<v Speaker 4>has a BS degree from the United States Military Academy

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<v Speaker 4>at West Point, MBA from Stern School of Business at

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<v Speaker 4>New York University. You can find him on Twitter if

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<v Speaker 4>if something BIG's going on military, I always check his

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter account at maj as in Major Mike liines Mike,

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<v Speaker 4>welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey Jack, thanks for having me back.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start with Iran, Trump said a week or so ago,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're having direct talks tomorrow. And Trump said a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks ago, if Rhan doesn't give up their

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<v Speaker 4>quest for a nuclear weapon, we would bomb them likes

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<v Speaker 4>of which they've never seen. Do you think he means it?

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<v Speaker 4>And do you think we can do it? And would

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<v Speaker 4>we do it?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 14>I think of all the things on the President's plate

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<v Speaker 14>right now when it comes to national security policy, this

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<v Speaker 14>is number one.

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<v Speaker 9>This issue with Iran. It's been kicked down the road.

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<v Speaker 14>That can's gotten kicked down the road for the past

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<v Speaker 14>ten or fifteen years now with the original JCPO way

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<v Speaker 14>back that Obama signed, and it's something that the President

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<v Speaker 14>wants to take care of. He does set a deadline.

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<v Speaker 14>He's got a two month deadline with regard to having

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<v Speaker 14>this this conversation. But I do believe that should at

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<v Speaker 14>the end of two months here, I think the rangings

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<v Speaker 14>are going to try to find the ball, but at

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<v Speaker 14>the end of two months, you're not going to see

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<v Speaker 14>any more progress. I don't believe that Iran has any

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<v Speaker 14>intention of getting rid of their nuclear capability, and it's

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<v Speaker 14>going to force the hand of the master negotiator here

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<v Speaker 14>because it's likely that it's going to lead to a

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<v Speaker 14>military conflict.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, to be charitable to Iran, they have been told

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<v Speaker 4>this multiple times and nobody followed through, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I can see why they would think we can get

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<v Speaker 4>away with it again.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think this time Israel is in much better

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<v Speaker 14>position and would feel that they could be involved, having

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<v Speaker 14>literally taken out most of their air defense platforms, the

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<v Speaker 14>destruction of the Uranian nuclear capability would be a very

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<v Speaker 14>challenging military objective, and in fact, it likely couldn't be

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<v Speaker 14>completed just from the military. It would take continuous strikes,

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<v Speaker 14>it would take it's dispersed, it's in different areas.

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<v Speaker 9>And so that might not even accomplish the objectives.

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<v Speaker 14>And what it only might do is just set the

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<v Speaker 14>Uranians back years or so with regard to doing this.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, the Israelis destroyed the Syrian nuclear capability, they

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<v Speaker 14>destroyed the Iraqi nuclear capability back in the eighties, and

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<v Speaker 14>they're not afraid to do it again. I think that's

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<v Speaker 14>the wild card. I think that's hanging in Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 14>pocket here as he's talking to the Ranians, knowing that

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<v Speaker 14>if they don't do a deal with him, that he's

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<v Speaker 14>going to unleash the Israelis on them, and they won't

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<v Speaker 14>stop until they know it's destroyed.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And I don't think if for some reason we

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<v Speaker 4>had a maybe Kamala Harris would have been against doing anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably Israel would have done it anyway. They don't have

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<v Speaker 4>quite the capability we have, but they would. They would

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<v Speaker 4>have had to try, because what choice do they have.

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<v Speaker 4>One of my favorite underreported stories is what you just

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned So we all remember when Iran launched that giant

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<v Speaker 4>drone attack against Israel and watched that unfold on a

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday morning and everything like that, and then Israel would respond,

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<v Speaker 4>how would Israel respond? Izor responded, And a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the reporting was when Israel responded that it was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a gesture.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't really that big a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran from books I've read, wanted to downplay the response.

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<v Speaker 4>But in reality, what you just said, Israel took down

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<v Speaker 4>so many of their air defense weapons that they're in

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<v Speaker 4>the best position. We're in the best position we've ever

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<v Speaker 4>been for a major attack on Iran. So what do

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<v Speaker 4>you think that would look like.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I mean, we've already taken out the air defenses

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<v Speaker 14>around where their nuclear capability is.

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<v Speaker 9>It's there.

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<v Speaker 14>They've got about eleven different sites that are scattered around ran.

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<v Speaker 14>They there's three basic components to make a nuclear bomb

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<v Speaker 14>and to mind it, you have to fortify it and

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<v Speaker 14>then you weaponize it. And the Israelis have taken out

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<v Speaker 14>the main air defense platforms on all those sites. But

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<v Speaker 14>what it would look like, it would start with that again,

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<v Speaker 14>it would be it would be reinforcing that that any

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<v Speaker 14>kind of air defense systems. As the United States, anytime

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<v Speaker 14>we attack, we go in with air superior air defense capability.

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<v Speaker 9>You could see naval fire, you could see Tomahawk cruise missiles.

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<v Speaker 9>You know. My favorite part of that go back to

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<v Speaker 9>the movie Maverick.

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<v Speaker 14>Remember in Maverick when they fire the cruise missiles before

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<v Speaker 14>they go in and they fire.

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<v Speaker 9>The thing is they know that.

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<v Speaker 14>Those air defense systems, so they don't take them out.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't understand why they don't do that, because they

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<v Speaker 14>guarantee it. If we know where there's air defense systems,

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<v Speaker 14>we would take those out and then they would have

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<v Speaker 14>bunker buster kind of bombs because we know that these

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<v Speaker 14>systems that the Iranians have set up are well underground.

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<v Speaker 14>They're designed to be survived, survivable, and it would be

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<v Speaker 14>the same thing again as you saw in that movie.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, as life imitates art. The first kind of

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<v Speaker 14>tap softens the ground, and the second tap would go

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<v Speaker 14>deep and blow up, blow up the capability.

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<v Speaker 9>So it would be it would be a war for

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<v Speaker 9>you know the.

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<v Speaker 14>Ages right now at this point, but because it would

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<v Speaker 14>have to be much bigger than any other kind of

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<v Speaker 14>attack that Israel did before when.

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<v Speaker 9>They took out a nuclear capability of another country.

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<v Speaker 4>So would it be fair to say this would be

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest thing since March two thousand and three, when

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<v Speaker 4>we you know, unleash shock and awe.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I think so. I think it would. You know,

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<v Speaker 14>you'd have pilots that would be at risk. The question

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<v Speaker 14>is what allies would come to iron side. They don't

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<v Speaker 14>really have any military capability of the Russians wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 14>to do anything. It would That's the issue people are

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<v Speaker 14>concerned about, is this escalation within within the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 14>But the Saudi's would be all in. If we wanted

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<v Speaker 14>to do this, well, we'd grab allies from these other countries.

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<v Speaker 14>Again again, Trump's given himself two months to set the

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<v Speaker 14>situation of gaining allies on this side, seeing what the

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<v Speaker 14>Uranians are going to do, you know, kind of winding

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<v Speaker 14>up the war machine.

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<v Speaker 9>And I think that it would have it would be a.

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<v Speaker 14>Very large, shotgun off type of attack. That's that's pretty

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<v Speaker 14>That's probably a pretty good analogy.

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<v Speaker 4>So the history of warfare, as you know, is the

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 4>countries thinking this is going to be over soon and

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 4>we're going to win easily. And I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 4>so many examples out there throughout history. It happens over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again. I was just reading about the Six

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 4>Day War Israel and Egypt and the other countries, and

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<v Speaker 4>how Egypt thought they were in a position to really

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<v Speaker 4>dominate Israel and they got wiped out in a matter

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<v Speaker 4>of minutes. So spin out what could go wrong? Like

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<v Speaker 4>what what? What is a possible This doesn't work out

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<v Speaker 4>the way we thought it would?

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<v Speaker 1>What could what could happen?

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<v Speaker 14>I think in most cases, those kind of conflicts are

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<v Speaker 14>more on the ground. Look what Russia tried to do

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<v Speaker 14>with Ukraine. It was going to be over in three days.

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<v Speaker 14>So you have a much deeper component with regard to

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<v Speaker 14>what the battle is going on in this situation here,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, the Israelis could lose some planes, We could

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<v Speaker 14>lose some planes, but the mission would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>from a military perspective, is to destroy or set back

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<v Speaker 14>the Uranian nuclear capability. And it's it's accomplishable. And I

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<v Speaker 14>think that's why it's on the table. It's there's no

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<v Speaker 14>there's for Iran and Israel to go to war. There's

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<v Speaker 14>countries in between this Syrias in between. There's not going

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<v Speaker 14>to be a ground war that's that will take place there.

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<v Speaker 14>What you'll see then is gray zone or you'll see

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<v Speaker 14>asymmetric warfare perhaps, but now Iran's capability to do that

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 14>has been destroyed. Hamas Is destroyed, has Billah destroyed. You

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<v Speaker 14>see the Huthis as we're you know, banging on them

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<v Speaker 14>down you know, down at Yemen. So so they're they're

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<v Speaker 14>they're out of the picture. So Iran's and its weakest

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<v Speaker 14>point as it is right now. So they're going to

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<v Speaker 14>have to make an existential decision because what it also

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<v Speaker 14>implies is regime change. When we have this kind of

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<v Speaker 14>launch and we un this kind of attack into Iran,

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<v Speaker 14>it really does mean regime change. That's where things go wrong.

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<v Speaker 14>But the difference is we're not going to put people

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<v Speaker 14>on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think that would just be a natural goes

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<v Speaker 4>along with this major attack, is that there would have

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<v Speaker 4>to be regime change or it would happen.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that would be the undercurrent to it. I

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<v Speaker 14>think similar to what happened in and go back to

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<v Speaker 14>Desert Storm. After destroying most of the Iraqi military, we

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<v Speaker 14>thought that there would be regime change in there, but

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<v Speaker 14>Asnama saying, ended up, you know, putting down any of

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<v Speaker 14>those rebellions that took place. Perhaps the Israel and the

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<v Speaker 14>United States could get together, put people inside of Iran

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<v Speaker 14>and try to do the same thing there. But I

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<v Speaker 14>think regime change would be the real risk that would

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<v Speaker 14>take place inside of Iran.

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<v Speaker 9>That would happen, and that could be good, that could

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<v Speaker 9>be bad. We think it's good.

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<v Speaker 14>Look, Iran is person that's a highly intellectual country run

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<v Speaker 14>by you know, very bad people. For the past forty years,

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<v Speaker 14>we've talked about this is the number one foreign policies

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<v Speaker 14>failure in my life time in a post World War

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<v Speaker 14>two era.

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<v Speaker 9>There's no other way to put it.

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<v Speaker 14>If everything today is always because of the Iranian influence

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<v Speaker 14>and trying to be the hedgemonic power in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 14>and their attacks on Israel and the like, and the

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 14>fact that they're the number one state sponsor of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to move on that from that before I

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<v Speaker 4>let you go. I've been following Senator Tom Cotton's got

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<v Speaker 4>a book out called Seven Things You Can't Say About China,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've been listening to his podcasts as he talks

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<v Speaker 4>about that, and he's really concerned as everybody is, about

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<v Speaker 4>China making their move on Taiwan. So one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things he brought up the other day, and I wondered

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<v Speaker 4>to what your perspective was. It is what happens when

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<v Speaker 4>the day comes when China is having one of those

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<v Speaker 4>military exercises like they had recently where they basically surround Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got all the ships in place, they got all

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 4>these people, they got planes flying overhead, and they all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden announce or don't announce that this is real,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not an exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>You're ours now. Could we do anything about that?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, to what the Egyptians and the Arab countries did

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<v Speaker 14>to Israel back on the sixties and the seventies, they

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<v Speaker 14>kept moving troops towards the border and forcing Israel to

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<v Speaker 14>respond and have to alert their forces, and then finally

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<v Speaker 14>they ended up coming. So I think that's how it

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<v Speaker 14>will go when it goes down. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 14>anything we can do about it. Are deterrens right now?

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<v Speaker 14>Are also we're at a trade war with China that's

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<v Speaker 14>on the non military side.

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<v Speaker 9>That's clear that what's.

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<v Speaker 14>Taking place there so and China has always had time

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<v Speaker 14>in their side, and I think maybe that's their calculation

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<v Speaker 14>now as they fight with President Trump over these tariffs.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 14>You have economists saying we should just go to four

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<v Speaker 14>hundred percent. The bottom line is we're going to have

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<v Speaker 14>a trade war with China. In for a penny, in

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<v Speaker 14>for a pounds, same thing on the military, we might

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<v Speaker 14>as well try to what will eventually again become razine

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<v Speaker 14>change there because time is always on their side for

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<v Speaker 14>a leader for life that it takes place.

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<v Speaker 9>So if they decide to do that here, I think

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<v Speaker 9>that's a very real scenario.

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<v Speaker 14>But it would mean it would mean US forces attacking

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<v Speaker 14>inside of China, and then that could potentially meet my

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 14>Chinese forces attacking you know, California.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, it could be. It could get very bad,

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<v Speaker 9>very quickly. So I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't believe the United States would do anything at

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<v Speaker 14>that point in time because of that risk. I think

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<v Speaker 14>that they could possibly try to help the defense of it,

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<v Speaker 14>but firing missiles into China would be a bridge too

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<v Speaker 14>far that would start the Third World War in the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, you are among many people that I've heard that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I would describe as you know, certainly not pacifists.

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<v Speaker 4>Afraid to use Bower who said, if China moves on Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 4>We're probably just going to have to say, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I don't see us again sacrificing a West coast

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<v Speaker 14>city for it, because that's really what it will mean

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<v Speaker 14>as they the the terrence that the President has brought

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<v Speaker 14>to the world now is clearly there. I think that

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<v Speaker 14>it's caused countries to think twice. But if they miscalculate

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<v Speaker 14>whether or not we can actually do something about it.

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<v Speaker 14>You look at the military, they're probably seems to be

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<v Speaker 14>shipbuilding right now. We have to we have to redo

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 14>our navy, we have to do a lot more things,

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 14>so we're probably five to ten years behind that we

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<v Speaker 14>could actually then do something and feel that we could

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<v Speaker 14>protect both the naval forces that we have in the

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<v Speaker 14>Pacific plus our western flank, which is again the state

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<v Speaker 14>of California in our West coast cities. And I think

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<v Speaker 14>I don't think that we're there then, and I think

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<v Speaker 14>that's what's being brief to the President, which is why

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<v Speaker 14>if they decide to do it, it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 14>just another indicator of how China actually it really is

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 14>what they're country's about.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Clients, You see them pop up on cable news

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 4>or follow him on Twitter or whatever. Something big happens,

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 4>always look for your insight. Thanks for your time today.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks Jack, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>When a guy starts throwing around like in serious tones,

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<v Speaker 4>then they would uh, then they would attack California.

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Holy crap. All right, I'm sure we'll discuss that more

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of have always known that I have a

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<v Speaker 5>very tall mouse.

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<v Speaker 6>As a little kid, I had seven siblings, and as

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<v Speaker 6>kids do, we used to put stuff in our mouths

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<v Speaker 6>all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>And it always confused me when people are like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Light bulbs are you know, don't open them in your mouth.

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<v Speaker 8>They get stuck. But they never got stuck in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>People look at.

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<v Speaker 1>That and they think that's something that really exists.

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<v Speaker 8>I wonder if I.

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<v Speaker 4>Can do that. That is a woman who set the

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<v Speaker 4>Guinness record for having the largest mouth gap. She said,

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<v Speaker 4>I over had a really tall mouth. I've never heard

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<v Speaker 4>that term before, but I guess if you can open

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<v Speaker 4>your mouth lengthwise a long way, they call that a

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<v Speaker 4>tall mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, right, three inches is the record. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that, Mike.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, you can put a lot of stuff from there.

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<v Speaker 1>That is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 13>Every time we play a clip, I of course, go

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<v Speaker 13>to the Internet, which I need to stop doing, and

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<v Speaker 13>I googled her and.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm looking at a picture of her with five Jenga

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<v Speaker 8>pieces staffed in her mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>See five Jenga pieces.

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<v Speaker 8>Five Jenga pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>Worth mentioning that I've still never lost a jinga in

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 4>my entire life. I never lost one game of jinga.

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<v Speaker 4>It might be the world's best Jinga player. A couple

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<v Speaker 4>of unimportant things to get to.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh, here's the one with her with the can of

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<v Speaker 13>corn in her mouthing this tab forever.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you what?

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<v Speaker 4>So, Gladys, I've told this story before, Gladys, but this

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 4>is this is something. When I was a kid, I

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<v Speaker 4>was obsessed with getting into the Guinness Book of World Records.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just obsessed. Okay, this is the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I cared about.

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<v Speaker 4>The Guinness Book of World Records used to be a

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<v Speaker 4>bigger deal than it is now, Like a lot of books.

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<v Speaker 4>Now everything's online, all the everything, all the time, everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, like that movie.

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<v Speaker 13>Every year, I was so excited to get the new

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<v Speaker 13>Guinness war.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so even at your age, yeah, because when the

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<v Speaker 4>new one came out, Man, we'd sit on the school

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<v Speaker 4>bus and look through that, and it was just loved

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<v Speaker 4>that thing and I wanted to get in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried all kinds of different.

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<v Speaker 4>Things, snatching coins off my elbow, like you put them

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<v Speaker 4>on your elbow, you could turn your hand and catch

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<v Speaker 4>him before they hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked on that. I don't know how many hours.

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<v Speaker 4>If I hadn't put that many hours into playing the piano,

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<v Speaker 4>i'd be at Carnegie Hall. But no, I was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to snatch quarters off my elbow. Or one time was

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<v Speaker 4>wearing roller skates NonStop. I forget what the world record was,

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<v Speaker 4>but I was going to try to do that. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure that was a lot of fun in the house

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<v Speaker 4>for your parents. It ended the first night. I made

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<v Speaker 4>it all day long, but trying to sleep in bed

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<v Speaker 4>with roller skates on, like I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it was my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Was worried about me tearing up the sheets with the

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<v Speaker 4>roller skates on, so I had to have my feet

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<v Speaker 4>hanging off the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's the reason I'm not in the book. She

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't as.

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<v Speaker 4>Committed as me to a Guinness World World record. She

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't let me put my roller skates on the mattress.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to lose mom, come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I was gonna there was some record about living

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<v Speaker 4>in a cardboard box, which now it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody in certain streets in la or Portland could be

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the records, but was living in a cardboard box.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did this probably like a day in the night.

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<v Speaker 4>And they had a slit in a cardboard box. And

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<v Speaker 4>I remember my mom sliding through a plate of like

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<v Speaker 4>eggs and French toast to me in the.

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<v Speaker 1>More like you're in prison. I can't believe she went

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<v Speaker 1>her along with this stuff.

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<v Speaker 13>So well, well this might be a dumb question. Was

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<v Speaker 13>it the cardboard box in the house?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was down in the basement. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a number of them.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just I wanted to be like my son

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<v Speaker 4>said the other day when we were driving home in

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<v Speaker 4>the cyber truck, he said, you like people looking at you,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you? And apparently I do have something in that

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<v Speaker 4>because I wanted to be in the Guinness World Book

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<v Speaker 4>of Records, and then I end up doing.

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<v Speaker 9>This for a career.

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<v Speaker 13>But there has to be a record you can break

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<v Speaker 13>that we can get you in there.

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<v Speaker 8>There has to be I say you do this roller

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<v Speaker 8>skates one again. Yeah your sheets now, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>These are my sheets. Dammit.

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<v Speaker 4>If I tear them up with the roller skates, that's

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<v Speaker 4>my problem. Need therapy all around that whole thing. That's

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<v Speaker 4>funny how much time I got my goal ten seconds

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