1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs. 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: Cowboys Nation. Here we are players last. 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: I hope your team win. Come on stars. 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: He goes, he goes, he goes. Okay, Uh, Barry Church. 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: Is not here. 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: He's yeah, it's very VERI is off. And that's okay. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: It's okay because we got birthday boy Danny McCrae in 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: the house. But still were gonna keep selling looking celebrate Cray, 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: Happy birthday. Heckm Harrison good in here, fresh off a 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: visit his son. Little Heck was over TC. 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: Get that frog going out there loving do it again? 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: How you do it like that? Like that right there? 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: You hey man, come on now do it right. We 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: got time, Okay, we figured out, we got time. 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: We got hey, look man, it'd be it would be 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: a big old thrill to see heck with the games 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: baby up there. 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: In the stag and you know, get you and get 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: you on the sideline. With me. Man, she just walk 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: around there and just stay all day. 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: He get I'm moving. No, man, that's all I like. 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 5: Is that all we had to do? 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Like it? Come on now? 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I took my kid out there. She's walking around 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: with me. Yeah. We get that, man, We get that 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: kind of access. But uh my, man, what's up? 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: Happy birthday brother? 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: I know it was yesterday, but just you know, another 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: trip around the sun. Thirty six? 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: Man turned thirty thirty six? Boll you look good man 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: thirty six minutes? Why are you getting out there? 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Boy? Up? 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: What you mean up? 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Well? You know what up there is? See these? 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not close to way y'all. Don't you wear 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 5: don't you were ringing my grades out? Your grades? As 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 5: soon as I see it, I get it as soon 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 5: as I see it. 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: I just try to get the ones I can and 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: then losing telling him about the battle I know you 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 4: don't do. 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: Never make a man when you start plucking on the stroke. 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: What is that? What is this? Young like that? 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: And it's dark and one of them stick out? 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, because only one of the times, so you'd be like, 52 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: oh man, that one, this is so obvious. 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: Joy, Why you can't man? 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: Joy? Enjoy. What what did you do for your birthday? Danny? Man? 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: I had a crumpus ball. I do. 56 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 5: I do a crumpus ball, crumpers ball every year. A 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: lot of family came in town White's friends and stuff, 58 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 5: you know. But he asked me. I was another one 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: that sall see, you didn't got me some donuts. Now, 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 5: so because I asked him for some cake, I couldn't 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 5: even get it. I couldn't get a piece of cake 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: made of me. You know, hey, man, you know I 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: messed with you. Man, y'all would have nothing on the 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: menu for the Harrison family. 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, chicken. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What is it? 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: I went on with my people through yesterday. So yesterday 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: I went out to the attorney, had a barbecue. Yesterday 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: I spent my day and I spent my day just 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: rolling around eating. 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 5: Well, now that I know you, because the last time 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 5: I invited you something, you to make it. So now 72 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: that I know that you're actually showing it's your birthday. 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Birthday is that's a different thing. Yeah, that's that's that's 74 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: a whole special day I survived. 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 5: Watch party was a big thing too. It's not every 76 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: day that was doing the weekday. We had that one 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 5: because don't you worry. Don't you worry? But I got 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: a birthday coming because I ain't. 79 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Don't you wear get that bigness. 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: So Russell Wilson one year deal to go to the Steelers, 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. 82 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: So the free agent tampering. 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: Period at noon gets rolling, so you can officially tamp 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: they have been tampering. So it's about Kirk Cousins going 85 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: to Atlanta, talk about possible forty million dollars and Baker Mayfield, 86 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: Congratulations the baker. 87 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: Baker's back with the Bucks, got himself a big old deal. 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: They took care of that. They took care of receiver 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: Mike Evans. Congratulations to him. So moves are being made here. 90 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: And if kirk Cousins gets forty million dollars, I really 91 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: don't want to hear any Cowboy fans start morning and 92 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: growing because guess what, Dak Prescott's gonna get his money. 93 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: And if it hits up into the sixty million, it's 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: going to hit up in there. It is now there 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: are no cheap quarterbacks in this league, guys. 96 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Russell one team, yeah, somebody else is bearing the bill 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: on rush. 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, Russ pocketing thirty nine. 99 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: But at the same time, Russ is sitting here in 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: that point where Baker Mayfield was last year. Okay, you're 101 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: leaving a situation it was kind of cloudy, so you're 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: doing that one year kind of pillow deal. It's all 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: a baseball pillow deal. You fall right here for a 104 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: year and then get back in the market. So if 105 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson has a good year, boom, he can get 106 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 4: right back in here and start start dealing. But I 107 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: just keep laughing as I read social media of fans 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: who want to get mad at Dak Prescott and Dak's money. 109 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 4: This is what the market is, and you're mad at 110 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: the player, when essentially you should be mad at the 111 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: team because the team gave the player all the leverage, 112 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: so the player's gonna use it. 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I think we all talked about it with 114 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: four years was it four years ago when for your 115 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 5: franchise and we sitting there saying, hey, man, go ahead 116 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: and get it done. Then you put the franchise tag 117 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: on it, so that kind of pushes it to where 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 5: you are now. 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: So I mean, as a former player, I'm. 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 5: Like, hey, hey, somebody got to figure out a way 121 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 5: to get it. I think Dak Prescott has put itself 122 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: in a a in a position to where he's coming 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 5: off of MVP type year leading the league in touchdowns, 124 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: interceptions are down. And you look at it and you say, 125 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 5: when you look at a Baker Mayfield or whoever else 126 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: is getting paid, I want to be higher than them 127 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: because this is what I did in. 128 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: The previous year. 129 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: So this is the Cowboys fault that then in the situation, 130 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 5: And to me, I think the strangest thing about it 131 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: is you have a couple of three players on your 132 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: team that you're going to be resetting the market with. 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 5: And I guess that's a testament to the way that 134 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: you draft. You're going to reset the market at wide receiver, 135 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 5: You're going to reset the market at the linebacker position. 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: Is it lineback is a defensive end or is it linebacker? 137 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: It got classified as a defensive end. 138 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 2: Better if you want that money because it. 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: But I think under the fifth year option, isn't it 140 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: lower as being a defensive end as it was a 141 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 5: line Either way, it is. 142 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: Lower, it is, but he's that But that distinction thereamer 143 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Todd Archer had had had a long thing he rode 144 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 4: up there available on social media. But bottom line is 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: he is classified defensive end. Would have made more as 146 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: a linebacker, but. 147 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: In his in his fifth year option, he would have 148 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: made more. 149 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Well, just the the tag linebacker was more. 150 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 5: But in his in his contract negotiations, when he's negotiating 151 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: as a defensive end versus the linebacker will to be higher. 152 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Here's what I think. 153 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, when he negotiating, it's 154 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: gonna be what's the highest number. 155 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Band he gonna the defensive end is one? What's your one? 156 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean. 157 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: But but the distinction itself as it came down, I 158 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: thought when I when I saw it, it's like, what 159 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: are the Cowboys doing? But then then as it was 160 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: explained to me, it's not the Cowboys that make that distinction. 161 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 5: It's the players Association that that does that. And so 162 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 5: look again, looking over the league, there's so many moves 163 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: being made and the ones that you were just talking about, 164 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: especially at the quarterback position. With Russell going to Pittsburgh, 165 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: it was a no brainer in our group chat, I 166 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: said Pittsburgh online one because it was a natural fit 167 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: for me, and I look at their coach and I'm 168 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 5: like look, man, that that was the guy that you 169 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 5: needed to bring in that hopefully can get your offense going. 170 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 5: If I'm a receiver at Pittsburgh, I'm thanking God that 171 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 5: we finally get a quarterback at Russell Wilson's arm hasn't 172 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: diminished that much that he still doesn't have anything on 173 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: the deep ball, intermediate routes. Maybe that deep out he 174 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: can't put that thing on the rope like he used to. 175 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: But other at the same token, when you turn over 176 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 5: to my guy Raheem Morris kirk Cousins, you know, in 177 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: that situation, if I'm Rohie Morris, like, do me a favor, 178 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 5: don't do me no favors right now, just to get 179 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: things started here. And look, you have enough talent around 180 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 5: and I do believe in the running game. I think 181 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 5: that running game is going to be sufficient enough to 182 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: support which whoever comes in there and plays quarterback. But 183 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: we got to get talking taking care of cowboy business. 184 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 5: You have to get Dak's deal done if you're going 185 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: to have any luck in free agency period. 186 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: You're correct, You're correct, And. 187 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: Once again I go back to just the way quarterback 188 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: contracts are set up. And then also you have to 189 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: talk about the agent. Here this game of agency. When 190 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: we talk about agents, you keep your job by being 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: able to go tell other free agents look at what 192 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: I do, and it gets used against you if you don't. 193 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: So when you look at Justin Herbert Fuller of fifty two, 194 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow high right now fifty five, it's an agent. 195 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: If you can't get those things beat, it gets used 196 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: against you. So the Cowboys got that working get against them. 197 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: And once again I go back to a guy like 198 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. If you're gonna pay forty million dollars for 199 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins and we know his what he produces for you, 200 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: which is disappointment. And I say disappointment for the stairpoint 201 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: that they had went to the NFC Championship game with 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 4: Case Keenum and their whole thing was thanks Case, But 203 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: we need to go next level. We need a guy 204 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: that can get us over the hump. They never got 205 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: over the hump. They never got back to where they 206 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: were a Case Keenum. So maybe keep your own guy. 207 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: And here's the problem. I think about Atlanta. For forty 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: million dollars, you could have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson was 209 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 4: available last last year and the owner said, well, we're 210 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: worried about him getting hurt. 211 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: But that was the weirdest negotiation of any player that 212 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 5: I've ever seen. Last season, when Lamar could, teams would 213 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: not touch Lamar. 214 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: So go back to what that was. 215 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: Remember, DeShawn got all that guaranteed money from Cleveland and 216 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: the owners were hot. 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: They were hot in the hasls, like he what are 218 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: we doing here? 219 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: We're not doing this, and so it's kind of said, 220 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: not said that, hey man, nobody, don't nobody else go 221 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: do this? And so Lamar has any smart player, Oh 222 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: he's getting that. I want that too, And it was 223 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: almost as though, hey man, nobody give this guy that. 224 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: But eventually he signed a contract. He didn't get the 225 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: guarantees like Watson did. 226 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: He didn't get them in that collusion. 227 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 6: In that collusion we had to prove it was said, Okay, 228 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 6: this man looked. I'm just saying, if Deshaun Watson was 229 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 6: able to walk away with the bag like that, and 230 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: then you have an MVP in the league that's a 231 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 6: free agent, has an opportunity to have to reset the market, 232 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 6: and we're. 233 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 5: Still in a situation with Deshaun Watson. Is what is 234 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: still at the top of the food chain. Why why 235 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: is there even any discussion when we talk about dak 236 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 5: in restructuring his deal, And that's that's that's where I 237 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 5: have a disconnect in all of this. 238 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: You're you're correct, But it's the it's the fan base 239 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: and the fan base in general, and then of course 240 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: those fans who are anti Deak. 241 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so you got that out there. 242 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: But just overall, when I think about Atlanta, what you 243 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: could have had in Lamar Jacks. 244 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: You about to pay forty you about to pay forty 245 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: million dollars. 246 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: For a guy that is who he is coming off 247 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 4: an injury that Oh, by the way, your team is 248 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: letting you go. 249 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: We'll miss you. 250 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 3: Thanks Kirk, good luck. Yes to me, that's that's wild. 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: And Dak Prescott, as we all saw. 252 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: Had a career year, second team All Pro last year. 253 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 4: So in the first year of the offense, so I 254 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: just this is the business. Then the Cowboys and put 255 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 4: themselves out. 256 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: I think that's the saving grace, like first year of 257 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: the offense, because outside of that, I think some of 258 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 5: the frustration goes of the performances in the playoffs. 259 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: Oh man, So I think. 260 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 5: It's if Dak was able to turn what he's done 261 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 5: in the regular season into a couple. 262 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: Of playoff wins. 263 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: I don't think you will be getting as much pushback 264 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 5: for a sixty million dollar contract when the recency thing is, okay, 265 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: sixty million for what we just saw over the last 266 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: three years going twelve and five. It doesn't add up 267 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: in some people's eyes. But it's not even that. It's 268 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: more of this is the situation you put yourself in 269 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 5: as an organization because of how you did him on 270 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 5: his first contract. 271 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: So that is the issue. Do I have an issue 272 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: with them paying it. 273 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 5: I don't, But as I'm looking at it as a 274 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys fan, I'm still saying the same thing some 275 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 5: of those fans are saying. I'm like, hey man, it's 276 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: three years of twelve and five, and we need this 277 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 5: type of performance in the playoffs in order for me 278 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: to feel comfortable with you moving forward for the next 279 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 5: four or five years. Because if I got to look 280 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: at that for the next four to five twelve and 281 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: five and then expect to be out in the first 282 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 5: round of playoffs, then I'm not seeing the sixty million 283 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 5: dollar work. 284 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: ROI I get it. I get it. 285 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: But it becomes two situations where playoff playoff production, and 286 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: I would put Lamar Jackson was he. 287 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: Two and four? 288 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: I think of the playoffs in two and five, So 289 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: so you know, money, playoff production. But then you're just 290 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: that whole contract thing. That's almost that's a separate deal. 291 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: It's a separate dealer. Fans don't see it that way, 292 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: but but you truly have to when you do this. 293 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: Michael Gallup, by the way, the team apparently reportedly said, hey, man, 294 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: go seek a trade. 295 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: We talked about it right here on the playoffs. 296 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: Liane probat to buy two Stevens. 297 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: Michael Gallop a guy we like, but thirteen million dollars 298 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: last year and you were if we include Jake Ferguson 299 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: as a target, you were target number four. 300 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: You can't do that. No, paid him way too much money. 301 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 5: And I think coming in the expectation for him coming 302 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 5: off of the a cl Andrew Will two years removed 303 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: from the ace Yell injury, we just never seen. We 304 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 5: never got that Mike g from before, and the expectation, 305 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 5: the money and all of that. You know what that's 306 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 5: gonna It's gonna be your undoing here and being the 307 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: fourth target at thirteen million dollars is a cush gig, 308 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: almost like a. 309 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: Back you know. 310 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: I mean, And I went way out on the limb 311 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: with that right there, right just saying I'll take it. 312 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure all year he was looking at 313 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: his chake like, you know, they really shouldn't be giving me. 314 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 5: He never said that, by the way, but I just look, 315 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 5: I wish him luck. I think that, you know, hopefully 316 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: there's maybe there's a way. But I think going forward 317 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, they have to find a guy at 318 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 5: that position. We've gone over that agnolzium, but they're just 319 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: basically talking about needing that guy playmaker, a difference maker 320 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: behind ceedee Lamb. 321 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: We just didn't get it. 322 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 5: And we can try and put three guys in a 323 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: barrel to be that one guy if we want to, 324 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: but we understand and when you go into the playoffs, 325 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 5: we did not have that secondary target that we could 326 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 5: rely on. And look, it's just Cowboy fans, you know, 327 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: I being amongst them, just feeling like like, man Dak 328 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 5: needs more from these guys. When it gets to playoff time, 329 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: they do. 330 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: Listen. 331 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 5: At some point, it's gonna be hey, you at some 332 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 5: point it's gonna say, man, because you are who you are, 333 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: this gotta be enough. At some point, I do agree 334 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: that we need that second guy outside of CD Lamb 335 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: to be more productive than we had in the previous year. 336 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: But it's just hard when you looking at sixty million 337 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: dollars and I know Patrick Mahomes is an outlier of 338 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: like you can look at what they have on offense 339 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 5: and you say, well, he can get it done. But 340 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 5: at some point I'm looking at that and I see 341 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: him play through the regular season, I'm saying I believe 342 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 5: that he can still get it done with the players 343 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 5: that he has on the squad. Like I think that 344 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb, Ferguson, the emergency of Ferguson last year, had 345 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: at Zeke and Tony Poller, Like, you've had opportunities where 346 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: you had enough weapons to at least get further into 347 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: the playoffs, and we still haven't. We haven't seen And 348 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 5: it's the performance that he puts out there in the playoffs. 349 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: It's not like those other guys not showing up. It's 350 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 5: some of the things that are on just on him. 351 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: Quarterback, the quarterback Brandon cooks his resume and what he's 352 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: done in his career. Last year there was a disconnect, 353 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: and I've got to come back in here to the 354 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: coaching staff. You had a player who's been putting up 355 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: a thousand, thousand and thousand, and been putting up a thousand. 356 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: With some Jag quarterbacks. 357 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: So I look at that last year as a failure 358 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: of the use of the player overall, because the player's 359 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: resume shows you he can he can perform, and there 360 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: were times where we saw Brandon Cook's perform. 361 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: So I'm not as sold as. 362 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: I say some people talking about a wide receiver and 363 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: second to third round for the Cowboys, like, I really 364 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: don't think that's the issue to me. To me, the 365 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: issue still on the front lines. You you you can't 366 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: stop them running, okay, And what do we keep seeing 367 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: in these playoff games, these teams bullying them. I mean, 368 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: I go back to when Jason Garrett was here and 369 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: they went out to Los Angeles and the Coliseum and 370 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: they got two dudes rushed for one hundred and ten 371 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: on them. I mean, just this thing's been You've been 372 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: getting bullied up front for ages, San Francisco, Green Bay. 373 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: They just we're gonna run on you and cut your heart. 374 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: Out, Yeah, this is and and so that so, so 375 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: follow that up with your offensive line issues. 376 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 3: Too, So we can talk all day long about a receiver. 377 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: To me, that's one of the last things I'm gonna 378 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: fix at address here. If I come back with Lamb 379 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 4: Cooks Ferguson, I'm gonna try to find somebody. 380 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: I got told bon I'm gonna try and. 381 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: Find somebody at that level because I think they've got 382 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: enough here. 383 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: You gotta fix these You got to fix it up 384 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: front now, I mean absolutely, I absolutely agree with you. 385 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 5: I think the conversation just evolved around gallop in the 386 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: way that the offense was last season. But when you 387 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: go back to the Green Bay Law, it was I 388 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: put that in the lap of the defense. I think 389 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 5: your defense lets you down in so many ways. The 390 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: ball game was out of control before you even could 391 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: get your offense in any rhythm. They had twenty one points. 392 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: So let's just I mean being realistic about it. I 393 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 5: don't think that a big time wide receiver is going 394 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 5: to fix all of our problems. I think a running 395 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 5: back is going to fix your problems. That's what that's 396 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 5: So let's let's let's take a break and hit on that. 397 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: Okay, let's take a break hit on that and I 398 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: We'll start with a free agent and somebody of the 399 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: Mavericks game hit me up with this Derrick Henry. So 400 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 4: when we come back, I want to get your thoughts 401 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: on Derrick Henry, who I did not know. 402 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: Liz it right here in Dallas for worth. 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The 460 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: final for the regionals, the regional is here. So you 461 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: got the elite eight games in the elite I said, 462 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: the sweet sixteen games in the Elite eight regional final. 463 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: And that team is gonna dance. 464 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: We have women's just a man last year. Were lucky 465 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: enough last year to had the women's final four. I 466 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: saw you talking about my folks, to let them. Let 467 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: us up. All right, you know what, I can't wait. 468 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: I got like three minutes. The coach is rubbish, that's all. 469 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: She is, straight rubbish. 470 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: But but I love First off. 471 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 5: She said, don't go picking on the little people. Pick 472 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: on somebody on size. Angel was walking the other ways. 473 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: She's not scared of that. 474 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: She was. She was like, you saw what her tweets said. 475 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: The person my status, she said, She said her ankle 476 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: was hurt. A person of her status, she said, person 477 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: of my status is not going to get involved in that. 478 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: I do not I do not indulge. 479 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: But the black dudes jumping out the stands, over the 480 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: scos table onto the court. 481 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 5: It's it beyond people sometimes what do we do? Saw 482 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: the women's basket, but he saw how big. 483 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: Hole girl was. 484 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: Over there and just saw how what just hers a 485 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: whole like there's a whole budget. 486 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you could do something so stupid and 487 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 5: when you do, it's just like I'm dumb. 488 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm here now. I didn't think about it all. 489 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 5: The way through. 490 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: With the police officer right here too. 491 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Man, the police was right on the man. 492 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: That's a tough go LSU South Carolina. 493 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 5: That was a great game, by the way, both times that. 494 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: Was overshadowed by that event. 495 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 5: And I'm tell you what, women's basketball is taking a turn. 496 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Boy, Kayla Clark. 497 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 5: You don't want to give her the credit for the 498 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 5: magnetism and the eyes that she's brought to women's basketball. 499 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: But I think just with the way that South Carolina 500 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: Don Staley is doing an amazing job. 501 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: LSU was always there, man. 502 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 5: So I mean, I'm looking forward to that just as 503 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 5: much as I'm looking to looking forward to. 504 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 2: The men the tournament. 505 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a good tournament with the talent that 506 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 5: you had there, and especially teams that are allowed up 507 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: at the top too. So it's gonna be a good tournament. 508 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 4: Last year's final four at the American Airline Center in Dallas, uh, 509 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: I really feel fortunate to have gone to that. I 510 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: went to the practice they had, but the practice was full. 511 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: Iowa fans came out last year. That was my first 512 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: time just kind of seeing the whole Caitlyn Clark mania 513 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: of what that was South Carolina. The it was watching 514 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: down Staley reminded me of watching President. 515 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Obama when he was running. 516 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: The way people treated her superstar and then of course 517 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: l SU all the fans who came out there for that. 518 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: It was a party. And poor Virginia Tech. How did 519 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: we get here? It was the ye you know, but 520 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: they got the brother head coach. Everybody good to see you. Yeah. 521 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: But but but that was that was a heck of 522 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: a heck of a run in Dallas and the second 523 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 4: time they've had the Final four of South Carolina ended 524 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: up winning it over Mississippi State a couple of years ago, 525 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 4: and missisps State had that great shot when they. 526 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: Beat you can't. 527 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: So I look forward to maybe four or five years 528 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 4: until it comes back to Dallas Fort Worth again, another 529 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: soul out arena. 530 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 3: But yes, this final four here could be pretty good. 531 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 5: But I want to ask you this a sports journalist, 532 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 5: You've seen a lot of great women basketball players and 533 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: watching Caitlyn Clark, and I know it's this argument on 534 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 5: social media that makes no sense because you go back 535 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: to Sheryl Swoops and Miller all of that. Right, she 536 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 5: is a phenomenal basketball player. 537 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: I saw swoops. 538 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: I saw swoops too, That's what I'm saying, Like, I mean, 539 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: you saw soweps. 540 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: What playing? 541 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: Oh, I think you said you saw I hated the 542 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 5: other day, No hat she was hating, but I didn't 543 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: see she was hating. 544 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: Busy and was wrong. But you know what a lot 545 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: too loud and wrong. 546 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 5: She said, Kaitlyn Clark doesn't deserve whatever she gets because 547 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 5: the person's record that she was breaking only played four 548 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 5: years and Kaitlyn Clark had a COVID year, so she 549 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: had more time, which is wrong. 550 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: Katevin Clark's in her fourth year. Yeah, she didn't have 551 00:25:59,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: a COVID. 552 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: Sometimes, I mean a lot of people, a lot of 553 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: people call themselves coming from off the top rope. And 554 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 5: Cheryl Schill, she's gonna be wrong about she can. She's 555 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: the one player that could be wrong, loud and wrong 556 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: because of the kind of player that she was. I'm 557 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: just saying when I watched her play, it's just her 558 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: game is so dynamic, h that it's just it's something 559 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: to watch. And so that's what That's what I was 560 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 5: asking you, man, what do you you know, what do 561 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: you think about her game? 562 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: What when I saw her play in the suits, hitting 563 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: these shots and just the way the crowd was, uh, 564 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: it was it was fun. That's the one thing I 565 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 4: think about just she was fun to watch and then 566 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: her teammates fent off of her. The whole thing was 567 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: just fun to watch. And I go back to the 568 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: skin pul virginny Tech, nothing against you, but all the 569 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: other three teams were fun to watch. The way South 570 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 4: Carolina play, the way they went about it. LSU would Angel, 571 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: I mean they I mean that in that championship game, 572 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 4: man and the girls come off the bench. 573 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: Man, she was nail in a couple of three. I 574 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: mean it was. It was really good basketball. 575 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: And the way all three South Carolina LSU, they all 576 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: had a Player of the Year, all three. 577 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: Of them had legit like this this star. 578 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: Right here and other players who fed off them, and 579 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: the coaches who understood how to use them. But home 580 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: girl was hitting some shots and was balling. I don't 581 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: have an issue. And this is what happens. 582 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: Man. 583 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: People want the sport to get more publicity, then there 584 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: becomes an issue of who gets more publicity than the 585 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: Angelice was at the podium talking the other day about 586 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 4: one of her teammates so and she said, hey, give 587 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: her her flowers. 588 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm not here without her. 589 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 2: It is what it is, man. And when you. 590 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: When you get a player like Caitlin Clark balling like 591 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: she's balling, and she's a fantastic storyline, and people have 592 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: written it's going to get out there, some people gonna 593 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: have issues. We don't like that, and we know what 594 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: some of the underlying issues are. 595 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: And we know this the unfortunate ones. Okay, but eyeballs 596 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: are watching. 597 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: And when she gets drafted by a w NBA team, 598 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: whoever gets the number one pick, that team is going 599 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: to sell out. When when wherever she goes, when she 600 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 4: comes right down here to play in Arlington against the 601 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: Dallas Wings at the UTA, people come and show up. 602 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 4: They're gonna show up, and that's good for the sport. 603 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 4: So tell me how this is bad when people are 604 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 4: talking about normally they're not talking about and they're talking 605 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: about you, And what if we talked about just kind 606 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: of the last two years has been South Carolina and LSU. 607 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about Iowa. Now we talk about is 608 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: this a bad thing? Yeah? 609 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: We complained about that because all I know is everybody 610 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: trying to catch the NFL. 611 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: We we're talking about non stop, now stop NFL today. 612 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: You know it is it is. We're around here now 613 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: we can talk tampering today. 614 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: Yes, we're talking about tampering. And who's gonna sign Whatere Henry, 615 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: Derek Henny. 616 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: I'm at the math game, guy, like you win a basketball, 617 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: they need to sign Dereck Henry, That's what they I'm like, bruh, 618 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: what's deck? What is Derreck Henry good? How many carries 619 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: you think you needed about Dereck Henry? Be Derek Henry good? 620 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: About twenty two? 621 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: Right? 622 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: You think Derek Henry will get twenty two carries? 623 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy augience, No, I would disagree. Now, I don't 624 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: know about twenty two. 625 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: Listen, Tony Paulo was floating around seventeen eighteen. I could 626 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 5: see you getting four more if you're productive. If Tony 627 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 5: Paula was getting more yards and that three yards and 628 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 5: the cloud to us are falling forward, I think he 629 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 5: would have got three four more carriers. But I think 630 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: that's something you get when you when you have a 631 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 5: Dereck Henry, especially when you're trying to close a game out. 632 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: That's a commitment, and they made a commitment to him 633 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: in Tennessee. We are a run team. If I'm going 634 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: to sign Dereck Henry and pay the man, you have 635 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: to make that commitment. 636 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: How did it go for Tennessee? Mike's never made that commitment. 637 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: They would they wouldn't. They got fuller than us. 638 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 5: A championship win with Derrick Henry. No, no, I'm talking 639 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: about what version of Derrick Henry are we getting. I'm 640 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 5: not opposed to it, no matter what. When I look 641 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 5: at free agency and my and my expectations in free 642 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 5: agencies is low low, Okay, then all I'm saying is 643 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: we've we've gone out and we've gotten a Rico Dado 644 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 5: kind of guys in the past. How is that work? 645 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 5: Because we're not getting a difference maker at the position. 646 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 5: We went into the draft, we got deduced fun that 647 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: we still didn't figure out a way even how to 648 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 5: make that work throughout the season. It is incumbent upon 649 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 5: this team, this organization to find a way to get 650 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: a running game that is effected throughout the season. We 651 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 5: went eight nine games without one hundred yard rusher and 652 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 5: not even combined in situations, and we tried to figure 653 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 5: out ways and throwing the ball. I'm calling the sweat myself. 654 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: I'm just saying that there has to be a difference 655 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 5: in this running game because we were never a threat 656 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 5: at all. There were no eight man boxes. So are 657 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 5: you saying that Derrick Henry is a difference maker or not. 658 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 5: I don't know what version of Derrick Henry we're getting. 659 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 5: I'm saying over the last couple of years, I saw 660 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 5: the dimension returns on Derrick Henry, and I think if 661 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: Derrick Henry agrees to come here and say look, I'm 662 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: gonna come off the bench, I'm you know, it's gonna 663 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 5: be a thunder and lightning kind of deal. 664 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: Who's the thunder and who's the lightning? You know? 665 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 5: I just I want to and then how much of 666 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 5: this changes our offensive line philosophy because and it seemed 667 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: like to me we were doing those outside zones where 668 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: you know, this Tony Poler was getting out of space. 669 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 5: He was more effective on the outside, but then we 670 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 5: were using him as a battering ram in other situations. 671 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 5: So I mean, we never had any true flow to 672 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: our running game at all, and so I don't know 673 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 5: how Derrick Henry, how effective he can be in this offense. 674 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: That's it. 675 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 5: We do we have true flow to our renting game. 676 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 5: When we had Ezekiel Elliot and Tony Pollard the previous 677 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: year was it was it pretty much known that thunder 678 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: and lightning when you know what you were gonna get, 679 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: and you know what type of runs Ezekiel Elliot was 680 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 5: gonna get. And then when you had that change the 681 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: pace when you put a guy like Tony Pollard in, 682 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: we knew what our renting game is. Yes, yeah, I 683 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: think I think what a Derrick Henry dependent on the price. 684 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 5: I think everything to me is dependent on the price. 685 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 5: Like I'm not gonna go pay him Christian McCaffrey type. 686 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 5: So anyway, that's that's all I'm gonna I'm just the 687 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: thought of like, okay, we because we all talked about 688 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 5: red zone, like what do you do when you're on 689 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 5: the goal line? Like that is an instant solved to 690 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: the issue that you were talking about. And then also 691 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 5: Derrick Henry what we saw last year because he was 692 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 5: coming off of injury the year before. I believe, Yes, 693 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 5: it's the longer, the further the season got going, he 694 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 5: still got the speed to be able to break away 695 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 5: and get those fifty yard runs if he needs to. 696 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 5: But the most important part of it is when you 697 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 5: get into the second half, or you get into the 698 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: second part of that third quarter. 699 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: Has he punished you in the first and second to. 700 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 5: Where you could tell that the defensive linement and defensive 701 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: whoever don't want. 702 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: To tackle him. 703 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 5: That's consistent with a guy like Derrick Henry. It's consistent. 704 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: Has he had games to where you like he's not 705 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: doing much? Most people have except for Christian McCaffrey. But 706 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: I think Derrick Henry here as the thunder. I think 707 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 5: I don't think you lose with that one. 708 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: So if you pay for Derrick Henry is thunder. 709 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: What you just said, how do you how do we. 710 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: Reimagine the running game to take advantage of him? 711 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: Because this is. 712 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: Not something we've seen. Have we seen a bull like 713 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: this from Mike McCarthy. Had Ryan Clark year, I mean 714 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: Ryan Grant one year and on the Super Bowl season 715 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: then he got hurt, but we haven't really seen him 716 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: do that where they line up Dak just handed off 717 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: and didn go. 718 00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: We haven't seen that. 719 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: If you get Derrick Henry, I'm imagining at this point 720 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 4: because McCarty s they want to Pollard back, so you're 721 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: saying goodbye to Pollo. 722 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: So we get Derrick Henry. Are you now going. 723 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 4: Into the draft on Day two or three looking for 724 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 4: enough because you need to get someone. 725 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: Right, two compensatory picks. 726 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: So to me, I think you got to go back 727 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 4: skip Pete gave them what they need. 728 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 2: You need two backs. Yes, the goal line is. 729 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: An issue, but I just don't notice Derrick Henry fit 730 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 4: the kind of run game that we've. 731 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Seen from Mike McCarthy. Biggest questions is it more Brandon Jacob. 732 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm not Brandon Jacobs, Josh Jacobs for the Raiders. 733 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: Who's free that fits a little bit more of what 734 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 4: they're going to do obviously costs is their Sequon Barkley 735 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 4: another guy that make you hear people talk about. 736 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: But my issue with Barley. 737 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 2: Has been healthy is healthy that's the scary part. But 738 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: he proved last year. 739 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 5: He didn't he prove it last year that he can 740 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 5: stay healthy. 741 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: I think he's he's still end up getting banged up 742 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: last season, but yeah, he did. He did play a 743 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: healthier season, but he still ended up getting banged up. 744 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: Very DeMarco Murray is to me. 745 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: And when I think of DeMarco Murray, he was always 746 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 4: hurt and even the last year when he won Player 747 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 4: of the Year, he hurt his hand. 748 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: He was hurt. 749 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: And so for me, Saquon had to win name and 750 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 4: last year everybody, everybody will take it up. 751 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: Go I could go soldier. 752 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: I mean that's because you're trying to get paid. 753 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 4: I but his cost is of all the backs that 754 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 4: are out there, I think Saquon is going to be 755 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: the priceest and I just don't think the Cowboys are 756 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 4: going to get into the point of pricing themselves. You 757 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 4: paid ten million dollars for running back last year, and 758 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at Tony Pollard. 759 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 2: They put that attack them, but you had a lot 760 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: of money. 761 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 4: Think about between Tony Pollard and Michael Gott that's twenty 762 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: three million dollars. 763 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: So. 764 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 4: Of dudes who just did not give you what you needed. 765 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 4: I just don't see any I don't see it. First 766 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 4: of all, none of these guys getting ten million, I 767 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 4: don't see it. If you get six if a group, 768 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 4: if these guys get six, that might be high. 769 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: I mean prices are dropping again here back. 770 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 5: To what you were talking about in this when we 771 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: were talking about Dak, and you know how everyone wants 772 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 5: to have a conversation about receiver. I think the way 773 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 5: that you preserve Dak is through the running game. It 774 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 5: has historically been the case, especially when you talk about Zeke. 775 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 5: And this is the part that we missed last season, 776 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 5: and especially in those games where teams were just playing 777 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 5: hot and seek against US and San Francisco game. Look 778 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 5: no further than that, we just did not have an 779 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 5: effective enough running game. Then let's go to the playoffs. 780 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 5: Look at the teams that had success in the playoffs. 781 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: What did they do. We always talk about Patrick Mahomes 782 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 5: and how great he is during the playoff time, but 783 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 5: it was Pacheco that really made defenses kind of have 784 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 5: to sit in that box because of how effective the 785 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 5: running game was. We cannot negate this and start talking 786 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 5: like fantasy football owners. 787 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: I know that's you, guys, but I'm just saying to 788 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: think that football. 789 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 5: Still isn't fundamentally played, you know, in between the tackles. 790 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 2: We were not good at that at all. 791 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 5: And that's argument deck hearing, especially when you're saying six, Yeah, 792 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 5: what I loved about what you said was in goal line. 793 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 5: And I've said I'll keep repeating you go back to 794 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 5: the Miami game. We win that game if you can 795 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 5: score on the goal line, Philadelphia, if you can score 796 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 5: on the goal line, and we just we were not 797 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 5: effective in that way. And to try and rewrite the 798 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 5: narrative that oh we just need that, No, we need 799 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 5: other guys to contribute ceedee, Lamb was balling on a budget, 800 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 5: all right, But then you you did not have a 801 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 5: running game that was effective. 802 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 4: And there was some misfires between Dak and CD and 803 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: in that game early on here they. 804 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: Were they had their own Yeah, yeah, they together were good. 805 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: But I agree, I go back to Dak and Lamar, 806 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: and I'm putting these two guys at the hip right 807 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 4: now in the terms of the playoffs because they basically 808 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: have the same playoff record. 809 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: Neither team ran the ball effectively to help the quarter which. 810 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 5: Is crazy for Baltimore. 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No, no, no, that's other people to get an overplay. 898 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 5: It's some guys looking at that saying, oh the Chris Christian. 899 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 4: Wilkins, Christian Wilkins in miamis looking at Jops and just saying, oh, 900 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't need. 901 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: One hundred and one million, keep you me ninety. 902 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 5: Five now, Christian Williams, the Christian Wilkins. That's a good 903 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 5: player coming out of Clemson. I love him as a player, 904 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 5: but he he ain't that I mean, Aidan Hutchinson's gonna 905 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 5: be open with year. They be talking to him about 906 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 5: it soon. 907 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 4: Hutchinson will be a guy that franchise, you know. But 908 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 4: but so for me, the guy I look at and 909 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 4: I just say, hey, hey, hey, Leonard Williams Seattle, that 910 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 4: was with the Giants before. There's there's a defensive lineman 911 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: that I that. You know, Hey, Jerry, go get that guy. 912 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 4: But Leonard Williams, I think I think you help your 913 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: football team. 914 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: No he's not. He's not Chris Jones, not Aaron Donald's 915 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: not Wilkins. 916 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: But play for sure. 917 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 4: He's a player, and that's what you need right now. 918 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 4: You need a player. Got to stop the run. They're 919 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 4: not Teams are just running on you. The big Fangio 920 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 4: blueprint is still out here, is still effective, It's still working. 921 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 4: So guys, how do you feel about Leonard Williams. 922 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: I like it. I just. 923 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 5: The where I'm torn at is the most important part. 924 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 5: Like I wanted to be interior. I know they still 925 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: gonna try to give Mazi. I know they're still gonna 926 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 5: try to give Maziri. 927 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 2: Hankins. 928 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 5: My fear is linebacker almost more than defensive defensive line 929 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 5: at this time, just because when you look at the 930 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 5: position and you look at Overshan who will be coming 931 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 5: off a big time injury. You look at not having 932 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 5: Lane Vanderish, Michael Parsons is not playing linebacker. You're looking 933 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 5: at Marquis Bell going back to safety. What do you 934 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 5: have there outside of the mont Clark Yeah, that you 935 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 5: feel comfortable about because when you look at defensive line, 936 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 5: for whatever we feel about Mazi and whatever, that's the 937 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 5: first round pick who's going to the second year, who's 938 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 5: going to get an opportunity if you have to plug 939 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 5: in Hank's there and then you still have an opportunity 940 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 5: to figure it out. I'm not saying don't worry about 941 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 5: the defensive line, but when I look at the second level, 942 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 5: that like, that's where I'm like, that's what we need 943 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 5: to find out. Two or three guys I like Leonard Williams. 944 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 5: I think that'll be an amazing addition to the squad. 945 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 5: But linebacker, to me is where I'm just I'm ultra 946 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 5: focused on how do we got a guy. 947 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 2: Got a dream? Have a dream guy? 948 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 5: Yeah got look at I didn't need to see how 949 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 5: Shack played last year? Was Shack Beary Checkberry. I didn't 950 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 5: see how he played last year. But I'm just looking 951 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 5: at names, and I'm saying what we needed the position. 952 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 5: We need a leader at the position when somebody's gonna 953 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 5: wear that green dot, somebody who has experience of being 954 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 5: in there on those type of teams where they know 955 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 5: what it looks like, know how to communicate that, and 956 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 5: I think we need a. 957 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: Guy like that I had. 958 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 5: I didn't watch Shack, but that's just the name where 959 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 5: I'm saying well, I mean, I know what I saw 960 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 5: him do in years past. We've had plenty of opportunity 961 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 5: to go out and get guys. I think of the 962 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Buccaneers linebackers Devin White and the other the 963 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 5: other guy. I mean they We've had opportunities to bring guys. 964 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: In Chicago Bears traded a guy to Baltimore. It had 965 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 5: an opportunity to get him, we passed on him. We've 966 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 5: always had this mantra that we've believed in our guys. 967 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 5: But I'm with you, Danny, it's these are just blaring 968 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 5: needs at the linebacker position. And if you can bring 969 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 5: in a Pat Queen, a player like that that can solidify, 970 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 5: be that green dot guy, but also be a calming 971 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 5: force in the middle of that defense, we haven't. I'm 972 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 5: with you. I think Leonard Williams is one of those 973 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 5: guys that could, you know, to gap run support type 974 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 5: of a guy. Look, Mazi, we're gonna give him grace 975 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 5: from last season. He's got to come in and be 976 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 5: two times better than what he was last season. And 977 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 5: having a coach like Zimmer that and I didn't think 978 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 5: that dan Quinn was pacifying him at all. But you know, 979 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 5: that Zimmer's gonna be all up in his stuff and 980 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 5: he's gonna have to make some changes to his game. 981 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 5: He can't be as easily moved as he was last 982 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 5: season and the guys around him, which were lighter defensive 983 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 5: line guys, And so I'm looking at zimmers defense and 984 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 5: I'm sure from what he understands, the priority has to 985 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 5: be trying to get that three tech, that big guy 986 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 5: one tech, that big guy in the middle that can 987 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 5: stop the run. But just as important as that, the 988 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 5: linebacker position. You had no one that could step up 989 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 5: and plug those gaps and stop the run. And you 990 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 5: can go back as far as Arizona to see that 991 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 5: it was linebacker play that really hurt us. 992 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 4: So just just pulled up just a couple of linebackers 993 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 4: of free Patrick Queen Baltimore Price Pro Bowler last year, 994 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 4: Miami's Jerome Baker, free agent linebacker out there, Carolina Panthers 995 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 4: Frankie Louvu twelve and. 996 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: A half sacks the last two years. 997 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 4: Jordan Brooks Seattle, twenty six years old for a first 998 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 4: round pick, Levonte David Tampa Bay. 999 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 2: I'm not bad. 1000 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 5: I'm thinking about Leon, Yeah, him and Devin White was 1001 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 5: out there thirty four. Yeah, yeah, I mean no matter. 1002 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,479 Speaker 2: Okay. 1003 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: So so that is one. And this is the interesting 1004 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 4: thing I would say about about the line back. This 1005 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 4: is a this is an interesting Zimmer type call, Mike, 1006 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 4: what what is it you need? 1007 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 2: You know, what what is it you want? What is 1008 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: it you need? I agree with you. In terms of 1009 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 2: looking at. 1010 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 4: A linebacker in free agency, my biggest thing is if 1011 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 4: I even want to help the linebacker, A guy like 1012 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 4: Leonard Williams. 1013 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 2: Is gonna help your linebacker absolutely, So I'm trying to. 1014 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,479 Speaker 4: Pluck that thing in there first, because if he's taking 1015 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 4: up some space and taking up some tackles, and then 1016 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 4: put him next to somebody like, oh so Diggy's now 1017 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 4: now my linebacker, and go get get work done. You know, 1018 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 4: ray Lewis was always able to do such great work 1019 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 4: because it was a Sam Adams and Tony Sarah Goose 1020 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: in front of me. 1021 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: He had guys with boom he could get there. 1022 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 4: So if I'm gonna help my linebacker, you know, I 1023 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 4: ain't gonna help my linebacker if I got slim fast 1024 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 4: MASI out there. 1025 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: That's my point. You don't have no who you're helping. 1026 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: You ain't got so. 1027 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of as it's a two full problem. 1028 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's not like it's not one or the other, 1029 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 4: it's yes and yes day. 1030 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 5: I mean, And that's a hard comparison when you say, 1031 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 5: I mean, because that whole defense was molded around the 1032 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 5: way that Ray played and you had the I mean, 1033 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 5: you couldn't get but a four hundred pound guy in 1034 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 5: each one of those guys to allow Raid to scrape 1035 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 5: and run the way just our defense design wasn't like that, 1036 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 5: and I just felt it. 1037 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: It felt at times we got exposed. 1038 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: But now with Zim, it's going to be a different 1039 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 4: d just based off what you're saying, because what does 1040 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 4: he have of Minnesota got big boys and so that's 1041 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 4: where he had your Kendricks is out there and bar 1042 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 4: those guys. So that's that's where it's going to be 1043 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 4: different than DQ. And that part of it is where 1044 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 4: I think free agency has to play a part. You 1045 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 4: just can't wait on the draft. Some of these guys 1046 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 4: you got to get in here, plug him in. Maybe 1047 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 4: there's a barget basement prices like Lindel Joseph is available 1048 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 4: played for Mike. Yes he's older, but that's where I'm 1049 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 4: going to be very interested to see where they go 1050 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 4: and how they decide to get so. 1051 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 2: Much a free agency. 1052 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 4: To make it work has to be about how do 1053 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 4: you use the player? People want to just look at 1054 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 4: a player, now, how does that player use how does 1055 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 4: that coach use him? 1056 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: So I kind of go back to dere Derek Henry 1057 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: or Mike Mike McCarthy. 1058 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 4: Is he gonna use him the way you're gonna come 1059 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 4: and say, oh my gosh, you got Derrick Henry? 1060 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 2: Are you using right just as well? And I know 1061 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: your frustration. Okay, Brandon Cooks. 1062 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 4: Was Brandon Cooks used the way Brandon Cooks has been 1063 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 4: using his screer? No, that's the problem with all free agencies. 1064 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 4: Hey we signed so and so and such and such. Yeah, 1065 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 4: but he ain't doing what he used to do. That's 1066 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 4: what you gotta do. So for Mike Zimmer, as he 1067 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 4: looks at this defense, it's not what DQ's running. 1068 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: How do they give Mike the pieces? 1069 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 4: And we know Mike likes big defensive lineman because he's 1070 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 4: gonna try to stop them. 1071 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 5: And you may lose guys like Doriance Armstrong also a 1072 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 5: guy that was a tweeter that gave you some flexibility, 1073 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 5: and so I mean it's still there's still a lot 1074 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 5: of movie pieces, so you may be feeling these gaps 1075 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 5: solely based off of necessity. 1076 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be work. It's gonna be some work. 1077 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lot of fun as they try 1078 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 4: to figure out these pieces. And that's why we we 1079 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 4: cover this and it's gonna be a great time. So 1080 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,439 Speaker 4: everybody enjoyed the league year coming up and what these 1081 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 4: deals are gonna be today and we'll talk about it 1082 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 4: all next week. 1083 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 3: Danny Craig birthday, boy, appreciate you. 1084 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 2: Man Church will be back next week. Let's bring break 1085 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: is only one week. 1086 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if he might be retired from after they 1087 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 4: come back. Well, we shall see. 1088 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 3: We shall see how new response. 1089 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 4: For Chris Bean, Jazz will Josh, everybody makes it happen 1090 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 4: right here, Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio, we appreciate you. 1091 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: Goodbye cameras right there. 1092 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1093 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.