WEBVTT - The Murder Years: Ep. 3 - Daniel 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 This series is inspired by true events. The stories you're 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.560 about to hear are fictional, and so are the characters 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:12.559 who are played by actors. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.400 Attention to the skier in the purple and white snowsuit, Yeah, 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.640 you you can't ski in the downhill racing teams area. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.600 You're gonna get hurt. Please make your way safely to 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:30.560 the green trail. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:31.720 Thank you. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.400 Back in February nineteen eighty five, I'm on the ski 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.519 team at Mount Pine High School with my best friend Carla. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.920 I mostly joined ski club in the hopes that I'd 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.400 get a boyfriend and we'd ride the ski lift together, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.080 make out behind the grounds keeping shed, and drink hoot 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.080 coco in the lage. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.280 At that time, being on those slopes was a nice 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:02.200 distraction from all the bad stuff. The bad stuff like 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.119 Don Cartwright's murder that happened six months before. We were 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.039 still thinking about it a lot. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.640 But then there was this one Friday night. I remember 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.640 it so well. We had just gotten to the top 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:22.600 of the hill. We heard sirens, lots of sirens. I 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.160 remember we looked at each other and said, oh no, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:27.320 not again. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:41.640 I'm Nancy Clark. This is the Murder Years. Episode three, Daniel. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:50.040 So it's February twenty second, nineteen eighty five, and we 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.640 were scared seeing all those police cars going by. So 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.920 we left snow Bear soon after. When I got home, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.600 I told my mom about it, wondering if she or 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.680 my dad knew anything. See, my dad was a paramedic 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.080 and he was on duty that night, so maybe he 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:08.760 knew something. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:10.839 Turns out he did. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.240 My mom said my dad called home and told her 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.600 some elementary school kids fell through the ice at Miller Lake. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.000 Carla calls to let me know what she's learned about 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.560 all those police cars. Later, I hear the kid who 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.359 fell through the ice as eleven year old Mark Donahue, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.880 a rowdy kid from a big family. He's at the 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:36.400 hospital with severe hypothermia, but will eventually be okay. I 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.079 know the Donahue family. I used to babysit Mark. It's 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.520 good news that he'll be okay. I actually dated his 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.000 older brother, Teddy, too. He's agreed to talk. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.079 To be honest, I think I liked you more back 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:50.920 then than you like me. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.560 That's fifty four year old Teddy Donahue today. Back in 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.600 nineteen eighty five, Teddy is seventeen trying to rock the 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.920 surfer look despite living in our frozen tundra. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:07.800 So anyway, you gave me the let's just be friends speech, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.760 which is always fun. But actually it was a blessing 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.400 because then I started dating Tina Matthews. She was a 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.400 great girl, bright red hair, a little awkward in her 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.920 own skin, but that's what made her fun. That Friday 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.280 night when my brother fell through the ice, I was 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.320 at the movies with Tina seeing the breakfast Club's in there. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.560 Yes, where's your lunch? 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:32.640 You're wearing it. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.000 Today Tina and Teddy are married and parents to twins 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.240 who are now twenty eight years old. Here's Tina. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.040 I'd known Teddy since kindergarten. Our parents were friends. They 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.160 went to mounta Pine High School together. Man, this town 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.839 is small anyway. The morning after we went to see 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.040 the breakfast Club, I had a swim meet. That afternoon 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.920 I had to work at the bowling Alley. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.760 Pin Lanes has been opened since the nineteen forties and 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.400 hasn't changed in Iota. Beautiful wooden lanes and seats. It's 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.360 like walking into a time capsule. And because a lot 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.000 of kids worked there over the years, it became a 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.120 big hangout spot. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.200 I liked working at Lucky Pins. I would hand out 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.039 shoes and clean them. It was a dirty job, but 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:22.200 somebody had to do it. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.200 By midnight, the bowling Alley has cleared out and Tina 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.080 finishes her shift and goes home. But the bar goes 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.200 strong until two. It's one of the few places in 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.760 town that stays open late. Things can get routy there. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.800 But what happens that night? No one sees coming. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:41.760 Nine one one. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:42.720 What's your emergency. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.120 Yeah, I'm the manager of Lucky Pins and you need 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:45.760 to send Hope here. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.000 Now what's happening. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.680 Well, I went to throw out the trash or dumpster 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:56.279 off back and there's a body inside. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.080 It's two thirty am when Mount Pine Police arrive on 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.400 that frigid night. Detective Kurt Peters is working the case 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.080 as the lead investigator. He's the same detective who sawved 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:14.920 Don Cartwright's murder at the drive in. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.240 So we. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.560 Had a dead body and a dumpster didn't sound good 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:22.920 at all. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.880 I asked him to take me back to the scene, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.000 and he says he still remembers it so clearly because 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.840 of its brutal details. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:38.200 So I remember the first thing I saw as I 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:43.359 walked over toward the dumpster. Was a wallet, brown wallet 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.520 on the ground. I put on gloves and picked it 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.560 up by the corner. Inside there was no money. There 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.960 was only a driver's license and the name on it, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.919 said Daniel Walters. I wasn't sure yet if this was 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:03.440 how Victim's wallet, but help so. It was always better 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.800 to start with an ID than a Jane of John Doe. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.440 I then walked over to the dumpster and shined my 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:20.440 flashlight inside. And it's hard to get some of these 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:21.640 images out of your head. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:27.000 You know. There was all a victim face down. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:34.039 In a pile of trash, his shirt slacked. I could 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.800 see multiple stab wounds in his. 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.760 Back, Detective Peter says. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.600 After officers photographed the victim in the dumpster, Peters allows 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.279 the coroner's office to lay the body on the ground. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.640 Detective Peter says that's when he sees that the face 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.400 of the victim matches the face on the driver's license 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:53.719 found in the brown wallet. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.680 How victim was twenty two year old Daniel Walters. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:07.240 Since graduating from Mount Pine four years earlier, Daniel Walters 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.720 has been working as a mechanic at Jerry's Gas Station, 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:11.600 a lot of kids. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.240 Around Mount Pine. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.120 Knew Daniel because he would buy alcohol for those of 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.080 us who didn't have fake IDs. Daniel was always really 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.280 nice to us. He kind of looked a little like 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.960 a little like Kevin Bacon and Footloose. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:31.360 This one, it was like three am or so, and 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.440 I turned my attention to the night manager, Robert Shield's 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.400 nine one one caller. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.120 Robert Shields actually moved to Alaska after this. He agreed 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.000 to speak to me over the phone from his home 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.680 and Anchorage. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:50.080 Yeah, I told the detective what little I knew. I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.840 went outside and found him. I didn't recognize the guy. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.640 He wasn't in our bowling elle that night, and well, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.800 we've have some problems at the bar. It was a 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.280 couple of months before I caught some kids getting high 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.480 in the bathroom. We I SA had a domestic dispute 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.880 and wife calling the cops on her husband. And then 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.880 about a week before that happened, someone broke in and 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.239 stole the cash register. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.280 I needed to gather more evidence. I didn't know if 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.000 any of those incidents related to the murder. At that point, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.360 I wanted to know if there were any security footage. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.000 I told him no, no, the guy or guys that 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.559 broke in a while back and stole a cash register, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.400 also smashed the two security cameras, and the owner never 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:41.719 bothered to replace him. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.880 While crime scene investigators work into the early morning hours, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.360 Detective Peters says he heads out to make the dreaded 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:56.320 death notification. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.960 So it was around five a m. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.559 When I knocked on the door and was greeted by 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.600 Daniel's dad, Donald Walters. I could tell he was confused, 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:17.240 and I could tell he was bracing himself. Then I 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:22.320 told him his son was found dead and it looked 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:27.840 like he was stabbed multiple times. He just stared at me. 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.800 Back in nineteen eighty five, Donald Walters is forty five 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:33.400 years old. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.440 Today he's eighty two. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.520 I actually couldn't believe he agreed to talk to me, 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.800 but I was very thankful he did. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:42.720 So. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.920 I'll never forget it. The detective was sitting across from 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.839 me at my kitchen table, telling me. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.800 My son was dead. I was in shock. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:52.520 I think I'm still in shock. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.679 Honestly, even after all these years, it never really goes away. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.160 Daniel was He was such a sweet boy. I never 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:08.200 heard anyone I was divorced. He helped take care of me. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.800 After I found twenty feet off the ladder at work, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.720 who broke both legs, cracked a few rints. I couldn't 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.280 walk for almost a year. I still have trouble getting 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:21.600 around without a walker. Daniel made all my meals, helped 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.679 me Bathe helped me get better. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:25.679 He was a sweet kid. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.840 Listen, the last thing any twenty two year old wants 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.480 to do is bathe his dad. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.080 I asked him when he last saw his son. He 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.160 said when he left for work that Saturday morning. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.440 He said, nothing was odd about the last exchange. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:52.000 I asked him delicately where he was that night, and 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.439 he said he was home. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:55.439 Alone. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.800 I told him I did not kill my son. I 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.040 did not kill Dan. I can barely stand up on 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.760 my own. Look. I knew he was just doing his job, 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:07.680 but still. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:14.000 The father didn't have an alibi, but he just didn't 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.800 look good for it. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.079 So I asked him if. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.760 He knew anyone who'd wanted to hurt his son, and 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:26.040 he said no. I asked again, no one. Was he 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:31.079 having troubles with anyone? Maybe someone from work? Without taking 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.240 a breath, he said Victor. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.200 I told the detective to talk to Victor. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.200 It's a bit after six am and Jerry's gas station 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.640 just opened. That's where Daniel worked with Victor Potts. Victor 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.800 was short and stocky. Detective Peters talks to the manager, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.719 who says, yeah, Daniel and Victor did not like each other, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.400 not one bit. But Detective Peters can't talk to Victor 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.160 because he's called in sick. He's been out for several days. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:08.600 Well, I remember thinking that was an interesting day for 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.280 him to call in sick. So I got his address 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.000 and went to his house. I knocked and the guy. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.680 Who answered the door identified himself as Victor Parts. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:23.120 Yeah, this is Victor, and he actually looked sick. Victor 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.960 told me it was true. It was no secret he 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:26.760 hated Daniel. 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.280 I didn't care for Daniel, but he didn't care for 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:30.079 me either. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.640 But Daniel hated him right back. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.920 I nearly lost my job because of him. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.160 He ratted me out because I was taking some old 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.679 car parts and reselling him. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.840 He said Daniel ratted him out to the owner one 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.360 time for taking and selling some discarded car parts, and 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.760 he almost lost his job. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:50.240 Then. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.360 I remember this clearly because it rattled me a little. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.920 No matter how much I hated that guy. I didn't 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.320 kill him. I would have liked to. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:12:59.840 But I did. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.319 And then he said, just kidding, just kidding, it's kind 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.000 of a half smile. It was strange. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:12.120 Detective Peters confirms with Victor's roommate, he's been home sick 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.480 for a few days. So for now, it seems like 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.040 Victor Potts has an alibi. Not a strong one, but 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:26.560 an alibi. Nonetheless. Back at the Mount Pine Police Station, 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.880 Detective Peters says he and his colleagues pour out the 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.800 contents of the dumpster on four long, plastic covered tables. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.800 They're hoping to find the murder weapon or any other 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.400 clues that can help point them in the right direction. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:45.400 So I remember we were going through all this trash 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.720 with a fine tooth comb when I'm told the owner 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:53.720 of Lucky Pens was at the station back. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.960 In nineteen eighty five. Alan Rizzoli is in his mid sixties. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.040 The Bowling Alley has been in his family for years. Thankfully, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.120 Detective Peters taped his interview because mister Rizzoli has since 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:05.800 passed away. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.840 And I asked him about his business, and he mentions 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.400 that they recently had a break in a robbery. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.800 And they broke into the basement, smashed the two cameras, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.240 and took the cash register. Guys must have worn gloves 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.800 because the police got no prints. I kind of suspected 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.160 one of our former employees, and police talk to him, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.640 but they didn't have enough to rest him him. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.880 Detective Peters asks for the names and numbers of his employees, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.400 former and current. It takes him another full day to 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.000 interview the rest of the Bowling Alley and Bar employees, 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.840 all of which turns up nothing. Detective Peters finds himself 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:47.920 back at square one. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.600 I knew I I needed to ask more questions about 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:58.120 that his life, who he associated with, So I asked 0:14:58.160 --> 0:14:59.760 his dad, Donald, to come. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.800 Down to station. I mean, did I have a girlfriend? 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.520 Could have been a crime of passion? 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:12.880 Could there be some sort of love triangle stabbings are 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.960 usually personal. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.640 An hour later, Donald Walters arrives at the police station. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.000 I hadn't slept in what felt like days, and I 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:27.240 couldn't stop crying. I had to call Daniel's mother break 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.600 the news to her, and she lived in another state. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.200 That was the hardest thing I ever had to do. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.320 So I started by asking Walters about his son's personal life. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.600 I told the detective that Daniel didn't have a girlfriend 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.320 in a couple of years. I guess there was a 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.800 chance he was dating someone I wasn't aware of, but 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.600 if he was, couldn't have been too serious. I mean 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.400 he'd go to work and he come home, helped me out, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.680 we watch sports, he'd go to bed. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:02.760 Been like that for a while now. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:07.000 But I told Detective Peters that Daniel was close to 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:11.320 his cousin Simone, so maybe she knows something. I told 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.520 him My brother, Eugene and Simone moved to Mount Pine 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:19.840 after Simone's mom died of cancer. Besides losing his wife, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.240 Eugene had some issues, some struggles in life, so being 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.680 close to me and Daniel was good. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.320 Back in nineteen eighty five, Simone Walters is fourteen years 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.040 old and a year behind us in school. She was 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:39.080 a jock back then. She played both volleyball and basketball. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.160 I asked Simone Eugene to come down to the station, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.400 and they arrived at the station. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.680 Simone was very upset. 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.720 Today, Simone lives in Ohio. She was kind enough to 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.040 speak with me by phone, even though she says it's 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:55.640 all still hard to talk about. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.000 I remember how sad. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:58.360 I was. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.880 I couldn't believe it. I had lost my mother and 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:09.560 then Daniel. I was broken. I told Detective Peters that 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.520 Daniel and I had just hung out that Friday night 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:17.920 at my house. He bought me Chicago's new album. I 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:23.040 was obsessed with that song, you Know You're the Inspurra. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.159 We put it on the record player and laying on 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.960 the living room floor playing it over and over. Then 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.840 we had pizza and I made him watch The Love 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.639 Boat with me. You know, he was my cousin, but 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:39.639 he was my friend. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.720 When I questioned her, so, Mom said she couldn't think 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:48.840 of anyone who'd want to hurt Daniel. Then I asked 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.800 her dad, Eujeene, a few questions. Eujane was a lanky, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.359 fragile looking man. Maybe all of his loss had taken 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.359 a toll on him. He was about six inches taller 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:05.679 than his brother, but even giving Donald's disabilities, Eugene seemed 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:10.800 much much weaker. Eugene agreed with Simon, he didn't know 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.480 anyone who'd wanted hurt Daniel. He said he was a 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:19.879 good kid. Eugene was a man of few words. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.760 Two days later, the coroner comes out with her report, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:31.400 which Detective Peters shares with me. Daniel Walters had been 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.880 stabbed thirteen times with a serrated knife, twice in the back, 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.000 ten times in his hands and arms, which were defensive wounds, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.119 and the official cause of death was the thirteenth and 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.560 final piercing stab wound to his heart. And the stab 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.119 wounds show that the knife went in on a downward angle, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.640 which means the killer was probably significantly taller than Daniel. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:19:00.520 Look it had no leads, I was I was beyond 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:06.000 frustrate it so returned to the media. 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.600 Police are asking for the public's help to catch Daniel 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.320 Walter's killer, offerating a five thousand dollars reward for any 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.199 information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:18.879 perpetrator of this heinous crime. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.760 Walter's body was found in. 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.160 A dumpster outside a Lucky Pin's bowling alley last Sunday. 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.320 He had been stabbed multiple times. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.840 So the good news was the press conference work. Our 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:37.320 department received a lot of tips, and the most promising 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.480 tip came from a man who id'd the killer. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.320 I wasn't coming forward just because of the reward. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:53.000 I swear Carl Pfizer is no stranger around town then 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.560 or now. Then he was in his early twenties. He 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.880 had already had a few run ins with the law, 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.360 mostly DUI's and public intoxication. There was also a domestic 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.840 violence charge he brought against his ex girlfriend, but that 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.040 eventually was dropped. 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.280 Yeah, we knew Carl at the station. We knew him 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.919 all too well. He could be a nice guy, but 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.919 he had his demons. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:22.840 You know. 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.840 I didn't know what he could tell me about this case, 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.760 but I was open to hearing what he had to say. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:32.040 I was skeptical. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.480 Now today, Carl's totally cleaned up his act. He's married 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.879 with children and works at the local hardware store. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.200 Okay, I remember when I saw it was Detective Peters 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:44.240 who would be interviewing me. 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:45.320 I was pissed. 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.120 I should put it in nicer terms today, but back 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.560 then I thought the guy was a total dick. Anyway, 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.520 I told the detective I heard something about the robbery 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.840 that happened at Lucky Pins, and that there was maybe 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.520 a connection to that kid's murder. The robbery was inside 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.760 job that was done by Dale Tompkins, a former employee, 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.639 and his brother Stewie, and they really messed up that 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.200 kid who caught them in the act. I mean Jesus, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.240 they beat him and stabbed him and the kids survived, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.280 but has serious PTSD over the incident. He's got flashbacks 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.240 and he's been having trouble holding down a job ever since. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.560 I asked all several questions, and yeah, I was going 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:31.480 to have the Robbery Division interview Dale and Stewie Tompkins 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.560 recall didn't seem to have any real inful about Daniel's murder. 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.960 An entire month goes by with no new leads. My 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.600 friends and I are scared. No one has been caught, 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.919 and there's a literal killer on the loose, maybe walking 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.199 amongst us, and we have no idea who it is. 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.600 Then a late night visit changes everything. 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.320 We had to talk to Detective Peters right away. 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.480 Daniel's cousin Simone and Daniel's father Donald are at the 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:08.119 police station. 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.159 I saw a Detective Peters and I was about to 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.879 lose my mind. I didn't even wait for us to 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.280 get into the interview room. I just blurted it out. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.199 My brother Eugene killed my son, and you need to 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:31.280 do something so I don't kill him. 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:36.960 There were no words to describe the devastation. I was feeling. 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:42.600 My uncle was accusing my father of murder, and I 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.520 was smack in the middle of it. My dad and 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.920 I were fighting. He said I didn't appreciate everything he's 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.280 done for me, and I told him, well, of course 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.480 I did, but he kept saying I didn't, and he 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:59.159 was acting so crazy. He was scaring me, and he 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.680 said he did what he had to do to keep 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:02.320 me safe. 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:03.040 And then. 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:09.320 He said he killed Daniel because he thought he was 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:10.199 molesting me. 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.040 Was he No, of course not. 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.680 I told my father he was wrong. Daniel wasn't doing 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:17.520 anything to me. 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.479 My brother had been institutionalized for mental issues in the past. 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.880 He was diagnosed with delusional disorder years ago, but he'd 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.359 been fine for a long time. Look, I didn't know 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.520 if he'd had a psychotic break or what, and I 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:33.160 didn't care. 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.040 I wanted to kill him. 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:40.199 I asked where he was, and Simone said the last 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:47.520 she saw him was at home. Me and six other 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.000 officers high teled it to Eugene's house. 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.800 When we got there, he surrounded it and told him 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:57.320 to come out with his hands up. Moments later, he 0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:01.600 opened the door, then actually walked back inside. 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.920 Officers stormed the house, toppled him from behind, got him 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.719 to the ground and cuffed them. Then they put him 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:12.560 in a chair at his kitchen table. Everyone's a drilling 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.840