1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for young one boy, hanger out with long 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: and then wait more. 3 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to Massa Territory, ladies and gentlemen, Happy Friday night. 4 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: If you're joining me live here. We got some rumors 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: to talk about, we got some news to talk about 6 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: from the last couple of days, and uh, hey, if 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: you're joining me on a Friday night, hey, thank you 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: very much. Do appreciate that. I know a lot of 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: you are out there, you know, going down and getting 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: yourself a nice bite to eat, maybe a drink or two. 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Possibly drive safe as of course as always, but uh listen, 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: we're not gonna stop here, even on a Friday night. 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna be making sure we're talking all the news 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: and the rumors, and we gotta a little something in 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: the last couple of days. Pete Alonso popping up there 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: the trade market when it comes to getting a starting picture. 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: What's going on there. It's feeling like no one wants 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: to trade their starting pictures. I'm gonna dive into that 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of giving my thoughts and I'm gonna 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: tell you, even though we are hearing a lot about 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: teams not wanting to give up starting pitching, I'm gonna 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: tell you right now, do not worry, because I think 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: the Red Sox one way or another are gonna add 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: themselves a starting picture behind Garret Croche. I'll give you 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: my thoughts on that, whether or not they add a 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: starting picture. Could the Red Sox build a super bullpen? 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: Sounds pretty fun. I like the idea. I'm always for 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: a nice, beefed up bullpen. Could you imagine adding someone 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: alongside the role as Chapman and Garrett Woodlock. I would 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: say at least one of the best one to two 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: punctions in all of baseball last year, So that sounds 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: pretty exciting. I'll talk about that. David Ortiz talking a 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: little bit at his shared event going on this weekend, 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: talking about what he hopes the Red Sox will add 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: for the soft season. David Ortiz, He's always a bigger 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: voice now, I know you know. He was talking a 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: little bit about Juan Soto last offseason that ended up 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: not happening, but hey, the Red Sox were aggressive for 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Soto in the end, he went to the Mets. It 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: is what it is. But Poppy, he still has a 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: big voice in Red Sox Land, and hey, speaking of 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: her oldest Chabman. He got himself an award at the 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: at the awards ceremony last night. I'm gonna say this 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: right now before I forget Lumerloni. He put out there saying, hey, 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: why don't we just make this a one night event. 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Why don't we just do Manager of the Year, you know, 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, MVP cy Young's and why not 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, making an event every year that people are 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: gonna turn into. It'll be buzzy. It'll be a lot 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: of buzz with that newsworthy. 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: Is. 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: I think he made a pretty good point about it. 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: And uh, I'm gonna because I want to say this 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: because I know I'm gonna forget about it. He said, like, hey, 55 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: you know, instead of just doing these like nightly reveals, 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: you know, do an event, you know, because it's just 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: gonna draw more attention to the game, and it's just 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna get everyone buzzing'. I like that idea, honestly, 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: I like it. And he made a good point about 60 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: it as well, saying, you know, people don't realize that 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: they're giving out these awards because they only just posted 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: on social media. So that could be pretty fun. Anyway, 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: those are our quick thoughts on that. Who do we 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: got here in the chat? We got gmgs, we got Mike, 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: we got Corbin, we got Moose, we got Anathasia, David Young, 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: How we doing, Jacob? How you doing? How you doing? 67 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 2: Let's get to it, everybody. Let's get every also really quick. 68 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: If you can hit the like button for me, subscribe 69 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: if you're due. We're trying to get the six k 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: by opening day. I think we can. We've been getting 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: a lot of new subscribers as of late. Video Game Nation. 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: How you doing, my friend? Let's get to it. Here 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: we go, and uh, we're gonna start off, of course 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: with one of the big power bats. We're all hoping 75 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: for a middle of the order bat. How many times 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: of this offseason are we going to hear middle of 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: the order bat over? Under? Are we gonna hear middle 78 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: of the order bat over a thousand times in the 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: next month or under? Based off of how many people 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: are tweeting that same phrase middle of the order bat? Well, hey, 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: we do need one. We definitely need one. We need 82 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: some more power in the middle of the order. Only 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: ranked fifteenth in home runs this past year. But uh, 84 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: there is a little a little bit of a golden 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: tidbit out there that maybe the Red Sox have their 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: eyes on Pete Alonzo over Kyle Schwarber. That's been a 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: bit of a I don't know if you call it a debate. 88 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: It's more, you know, it's like what would you rather have? 89 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: You want chocolate ice cream? Or you want vanilla? Right, 90 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: you want strawberry or what do you want? It's really 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: picked your flavor. It's all gonna be good, right, Uh, 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: you know, pizza, right, cheese, pepperoni, Either one's gonna be good. 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: Which one do you want? So it's really I wouldn't 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: say it's much of a debate, but is either guy 95 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: is going to help out the Red Sox lineup? Now 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: I've given you my case. I would love either or. 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, right next week, if we got a 98 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 2: report saying Kyle Schwarber is coming to the Red Sox, 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: I'll be doing cartwheels in the front lawn. Or if 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: it's Peter Alonzo, I'll be doing cartwheels the opposite way 101 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: in the front lawn. It doesn't matter. I mean doing 102 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: cartwheels regardless. But I think Pete Alonzo could be more realistic. 103 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: And now that I'm saying that out loud, and I've 104 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: been saying it. Watch It's probably not gonna happen, of course, 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: because everything I say just is wrong all the time. 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: But I do think Pete Alonzo makes a lot more sense. 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: I've given you the reasons. Obviously, big right handed bat 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: gives you the power. He's played in a big market, 109 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: and you don't have to give up a draft pick, 110 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: which is something I do think the Red Sox front office, 111 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: I think they value that still, no matter where they're 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: at in a competitive window, there's they're at a point 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: now where they've been wanting to get to. They've wanted 114 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: to get back to this competitive window while having a 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: strong infrastructure within the organization, having a strong form system. 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: So I don't think they're just gonna be like, Okay, 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: we'll just get rid of the draft pick, right. I 118 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: think they will if they have to, But if they 119 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: could hang onto one, I think they would rather At 120 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: least I would think many members of the front office 121 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: would like to hang onto a draft pick. That's just 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: my opinion, right, But we did get something. We did 123 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: get something here from Chris Gattillo on mass Live had 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: a big old article why Peter Alonzo's DH proclamation makes 125 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: him more intriguing to the power Starved Red Sox. And 126 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: that's another reason as well, is what is the willingness 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: of Peter Alonzo to d H? Right, He's He's been 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: on record before saying he values very highly the fact 129 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: that he's a first baseman. He wants to be out 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: there in the field. And Hey, a lot of guys 131 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: they like to be out there in the field. It's 132 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: like a it's a routine thing. Now. We've been getting 133 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: reports over the last couple of days. I think Scott 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: Boris himself even said it today. You know, he is 135 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: open to maybe dhing a little bit, but the main 136 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: thing is he wants to go to a winner. Right 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: And uh, we got this as well. We got and 138 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: here was the quote from Scott Boris. Boris were not 139 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: the quote, but signaled that Alonzo was willing to DH 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: at least sometimes with his new club. Here's the quote. 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: I think Pete at this point in his career is 142 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: about winning, no doubt. I've had that question a lot. 143 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: There's no doubt Pete's pursuers are primed to pay the 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: Power Piper. We read that one the other day but 145 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: here was the interesting one this week. Let me get 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: this pulled up for you this week. However, word is 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: there are some in the club's inner circle that prefer 148 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: Alonzo to Kyle Schwarber, the other top offensive free agent 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: who projects to be exclusively a DH in twenty twenty six. 150 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: Alonso doesn't have a qualifying offer or draft pick compensation 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: attached to him like Schoorbert does, so again, I think 152 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: that's a big deal, at least in my opinion. Right, 153 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, we can all sit here and we can 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: you know, be armchair gms. We can argue with each 155 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: other back and forth. We should do this, we should 156 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: do that. But in the end, what I always try 157 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: to say is instead of thinking the way you want 158 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: to think. And I've had to do this myself, I've 159 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: over the years, I try to be better at thinking 160 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: not what I want, but what is the front Well, 161 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: of course what I want, you know, we all have 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: our opinions, and they're all fair, but I also try 163 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: to think of what the front office wants, right, what 164 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: are they looking to accomplish? Right? How are they trying 165 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: to think not only on today and for the future. 166 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: So that's why I do believe that there is at 167 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: least some in the front office. I think Alonzo would 168 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: be the better bet, uh, for the reasons I already mentioned. 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: But that draft pick, these draft picks today, Listen, you 170 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: might think, oh, it's just a draft pick, who cares, 171 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: But listen, these guys that are coming out of high 172 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: school college. You just seeing a lot of college guys 173 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: these days that are making it to the major leagues 174 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: within their first year. I mean, we just saw Peyton Totley, 175 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: you know, just getting drafted last year out of TCU. 176 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: These guys are so advanced that these draft picks, they're 177 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: getting more valuable every single year now. And even if 178 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: you get one out of high school. I mean, these 179 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: guys are so advanced at such a young age in 180 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: today's game, just with all the technology that we have 181 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: and just seeing these kids so young today, where you know, 182 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: that is debatable in itself, you know, whether or not, 183 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe they're pushing these kids a little 184 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: too hard. But in the ends, a lot of these 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: guys coming out of high school, man, they're just looking great. 186 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, look at Marcella Meyer key example 187 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: right there, right, Roman Anthony, Roman Anthony coming out of 188 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: high school. I mean, these guys they're getting to the 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: major leagues quicker, so these draft picks, they are getting 190 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: more valuable every single year. So that's why I do 191 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: personally believe that there are there's a strong contingency that 192 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: would prefer pedal on So I guarantee you there's gonna 193 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: be people there too, even the people that would like 194 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: to have pedal Onzo that would still love to have 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber. I see people all the time say, well, 196 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: why not both, Let's get both? Hey, not just chocolate, 197 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: not just vanilla, Let's get the does Wendy's do do 198 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: the swirl where they combine it? You know? Those are 199 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: those are good too. That's usually what I end up doing. 200 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: Why not both, Let's get both. But you're probably not 201 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: gonna get both. That'd be great. Kind of makes me 202 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: think twenty eleven. Sorry to bring up bad memories, but 203 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Adrian Gonzalez Carl Crawford, my goodness. I mean obviously that 204 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: didn't work out, but still at the time it was 205 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: very exciting. Could they do both? I guess of course 206 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 2: you could, but will they probably not? Guarantee there's a 207 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: lot of people that would love to have Kyle Schwarber. 208 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: I think there's there's so many things that he also 209 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: brings to the table. He just brings obviously the power, right, 210 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: but just easy power, you know. And he's got that 211 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: left handed power that fits perfectly at Famway Park with 212 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: a deep, bright field, and he's shown he can play there. 213 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: He just brings a good clubhouse mentality. He's always good 214 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: in the community. Everyone just loves Kyle Schwarber. Right, He's 215 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: a guy any team would want to have on your team, 216 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: even if he's just daching every day. Right. I think 217 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: he's an age well, I really think they're I'm not 218 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: gonna say he's David Ortiz by any means, of course, 219 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: no one's David Ortiz, but I see him aging well 220 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: into his thirties because he just has that easy power 221 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: and he has that good plate discipline. You hear a 222 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: lot where people, you know, they say, oh, these power hitters, 223 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: they fall off right. Well, the difference was Schworber. Yes, 224 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: there is you know, some swing and miss there, but 225 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: the guy just sees the strike zones so well, and 226 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: he just flicks the bat out there if he sees 227 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: a pitch that he likes. He's just swinging and it's 228 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: probably gone right. His play discipline is very good. Guys 229 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: like that where they have a good understanding of the 230 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: strike zone, just how these pictures work. They tend to 231 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: do very well. You saw it with Nelson Cruz, Jim Tomy, 232 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: another Hall of Fame example. Right, those guys in their 233 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: thirties still were just so productive. I see Kyle Schwarber 234 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: being that way. But Alonso, I definitely see why people 235 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: in the front office would prefer him. And actually David 236 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: Ortiz gave his thoughts as well when asked, Hey, who 237 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: would you rather have Poppy? You want Kyle Schwarber or 238 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: you want Pete Alonzo said, here, either way you can 239 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: be satisfied. You're talking about two monsters. But if I 240 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: had to pick one, because I have Roman Anthony as 241 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: a left handed batter, I would go with a right 242 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: handed bat. There are a lot of left handed power 243 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: pictures coming out of the bullpen, which with these guys, 244 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: they don't really care, but you know, opponents, they're gonna 245 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: be doing the matchups when you have two lefties, one 246 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: behind the other. I think we've loaded up really well 247 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: with lefties one right handed power hitter to take advantage 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: of the Monster, it'll be a plus and you know, yeah, 249 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: I definitely see that as well. Even with Kyle Schwarber, 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: you still make that work. But he is right, they 251 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: do have a lot of lefty thumpers. Again, No, Rea, 252 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you don't go pursue Schworber if he's there, obviously, 253 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: but I understand what he's saying here. He brings a 254 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: little bit more balance. He also mentioned, you know, bringing 255 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: back Bregman as well, So again, either way it doesn't 256 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: really matter, but interesting to you know, for Poppy to 257 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: lean a bit more towards Pete Alonzo there, so we'll 258 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: see what ends up happening. Right. Also, the title for 259 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: today's show here on the screen on YouTube, slow Burn 260 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: getting warmer. That's how it feels right now. It feels 261 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 2: like there's stuff there, but it's not fully ignited, which 262 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: obviously still early in the off season. GM meetings are done, right, 263 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: people have kind of digested that the awards are out 264 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: of the way, so you're gonna start to see things 265 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: heating up. But you're starting to see these little flickers, right, 266 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: and I feel like people are getting antsy. Am I 267 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: the only one getting that feeling, like if I'm on Twitter. 268 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: If I'm looking around, I just see antsiness and I 269 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: feel like, and that's kind of where like last offseason, 270 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: there were so many different angles to talk about with 271 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: the Red Sox offseason, but this one, you know exactly 272 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: what they need, right, you need the two key things, 273 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: the starting picture two and the power bat. And it's like, 274 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: I think we're all just like we know who the 275 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: targets are, and I feel like we're just kind of 276 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: running around in circles a little bit because there's really 277 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: not too much to really talk like, I don't say 278 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: not talk about, but there's not really many lanes you 279 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: can go down. It's like, okay, Powerheader, Shore Burro or 280 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: Alonso number two in the rotation, all right, Joe, Ryan 281 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: Freddrick Barlta, Dylan Ceas maybe right. So it just feels 282 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: like we're just waiting for something to just start charning 283 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more. You know, I'm sensing that antsiness 284 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: across Red Sox Nation. What have we got here? In 285 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: the chat? Mad King Tyler? Get that Neapolitan ice cream? 286 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: I do like Neapolitan. It's a classic flavor. I would 287 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: say with me, if I were to go with a classic, 288 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: you know. I'm actually, I would say an ice cream connoisseur, right, 289 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: I actually I don't do the briers. I don't do 290 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: eaties very often. Unless it's on sale, maybe I'll go 291 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: get it. But I actually like going to these different 292 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: scoop shops around me. Right, there's some pretty good ones 293 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: around me. I like going for the I guess the 294 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: what do you call it? The upper class ice creams. 295 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: I like to go to these different places, you know. 296 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: I like to look for the more advanced ice creams 297 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: out there. But if I were to go for a 298 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: classic cookies and cream all day, that's the right way 299 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: to go in my opinion. You can't go wrong with 300 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: cookies and cream. It's just always good cookie dough. I'll 301 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: be in the mood for that sometimes, but I just 302 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: I'll never not like cookies and cream. It's always so good. 303 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: Corbin and the Chat, what are they gonna do with 304 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: Nate Lowe? Haven't heard anyone to talk about him? I 305 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: mean really, it's he's not the main target right now. 306 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: I think there is. They're are bigger fish to fry. 307 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: I've been using that term a lot lately, that phrase 308 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: a lot, But really, I mean he's kind of he's 309 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: so low on the totem pole right now. I just 310 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: think after the bad season that he had, he's gonna 311 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: have to wait a little while. And I think he's 312 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: he's got to wait for this market to develop more 313 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: and he's got to wait for guys to go off 314 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: the board. So Phil, how you doing, go Pats? How 315 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: about the Pats last night? How about the Pats? Gotta 316 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: love that man. Pats are looking good. There's a lot 317 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: of people out there doubting the Pats. We'll see they're 318 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: looking good though, looking good. Good win for my fantasy Well, 319 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: not a win for my fantasy team. But hey, Henderson, 320 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: give me a few tds last night. I got a 321 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: lot of points from that. I'm feeling pretty good, feeling 322 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: good about my chances for fantasy this week. I gotta 323 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: start putting some wins together because I think I'm about 324 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: like five hundred right now. I'm five and five. I 325 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: gotta make that push for the playoffs, So Drake May Henderson, Hey, 326 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: they gave me some good points. Anyway, We're talking Red 327 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: Sox everyone. If you can hit the like button for me, 328 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: subscribe if you're new. 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Use that code 345 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: foul and fill out the post checkout survey to help support. 346 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: Ft alrighty, let's get back to it here, shall we, 347 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: and let's shift away from the lineup. Let's get to 348 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: the rotation here and eventually the bullpen. But first, the 349 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: starting pitching latest for the Red Sox, And well, like 350 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: I said at the start of the show, you're getting 351 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: some hesitancy out there in the early going. We've been 352 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: talking about ever since the season ended, right, ever since 353 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: the postseason run, even though it was short, since that ended, 354 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: we've been talking about, all right, who are they gonna 355 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: get for the number two? We need a number two. 356 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: We saw it right before our eyes, Garrett Crochet. He 357 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: was amazing. But after that, the Red Sox felt flat. 358 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: When it came to the pitching. They had to go 359 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: with Connolly early, who was making what was it his 360 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: fifth major league start up to that point. That was 361 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: obviously a big weakness. But you know, we're all talking 362 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: about you know, Joe, Ryan's the that's the big name, 363 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: that's the popular name. Ever since the deadline, you've been 364 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: hearing other names as well, all right, Mackenzie Gore, Paul 365 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: Taboni connection, possibly Freddie perraulta he's out there, you know, 366 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Sandy al Contro with the Marlins. You got dudes, right, 367 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: maybe even the reds right, maybe you know, Hunter Green, 368 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: that was a name that popped up a little early 369 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: that maybe he could be a candidate. Guys like Angel 370 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: through Abbott possibly coming off a good year, a lot 371 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: of guys. But what we're hearing as of late is hesitancy, 372 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: right or teams that seem to not be really willing 373 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: to deal. There're starters that are getting closer to free agency, 374 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 2: which is usually the norm when it comes to you know, 375 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: these smaller market, mid market teams where there you know, 376 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: a guy is a year away from free agency, a 377 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: couple of years away from free agency, and that's kind 378 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: of the norm right where they Hey, they get back value, 379 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: they get ahead of it, get back some good young 380 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: players in a solid package. Like the White Sox with 381 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: Garrett Crochet, there was no reason to hang on to them. 382 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: But we've been hearing lately when it comes to Minnesota Twins. 383 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: Falve he talked with MLB Network a couple of days 384 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: ago saying, you know, it's not really any sort of 385 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, but not really any urgency to move either 386 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: Joe Ryan or Pablo Lopez. He's actually talking lately about 387 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: adding to this Twins team. And I know I've been 388 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: on the record here saying maybe maybe I'm just being silly, 389 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm maybe my potato brain is really kicking in here. 390 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: And I know the Twins they made a lot of 391 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: moves at the deadline. Maybe I'm biased. I just like 392 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the Twins younger, younger players that they have, 393 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: both on the position player side of things and the 394 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: pitching side of things. I honestly feel like they could 395 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: be one of those pesky teams next year where they're 396 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: you know, in the mix. You know, they could be 397 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 2: a team that makes a run, kind of like the 398 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: Marlins right where they just kind of came out of 399 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: nowhere this year, and but they got you know, some solid, good, 400 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: solid young players and they were just right there. You know, 401 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: look at that looking at the Cincinnati Reds. I mean 402 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: you saw, you know, at one point it looked like 403 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: the Reds were down and out for the count, the 404 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: Mets are gonna be getting in. All of a sudden, 405 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: the Mets they free feil. You know, they just completely 406 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: fell off a cliff and all of a sudden, the 407 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: Reds are in the postseason. Right. I feel like the 408 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: Twins could be that kind of a team because they 409 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: have a lot of pitching depth, sure, younger players, and 410 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: they just sold off a lot of guys, but guys 411 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: that I think could make them at least somewhat competitive. 412 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: Not saying, you know, one of the best teams in 413 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: the league, but a team that could be a pesky 414 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: one team that maybe could have a bit of a 415 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: bit of a dog in them a little bit. So 416 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: I understand where teams now, you know, especially when you 417 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: got the three wild card spots, you know, they want 418 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: to hang on to these guys, right because hey, if 419 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: you make a run or if you get in, anything 420 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: can happen. Right So now, anyway, I'm rambling here, But 421 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: the Twins, I'll talk about Joe Ryan here in a second. Lately, 422 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: pushing the brakes, pumping the brakes when it comes to 423 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: trading Joe Ryan or Pablo Lopez. Same thing with the Brewers. 424 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: The president of the Brewers has been coming out lately saying, uh, yeah, hey, 425 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: uh you know, we like Freddy Perraultz. Yeah, sure, we 426 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: trade a Corbin Burns, you know, Devin Williams, Josh hater. 427 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: But Freddy Peralta, Hey, he's he's under ten million bucks. 428 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: He's a good picture. We like Freddy Peralta right, and 429 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: of course obviously they like Freddy Parolta. They signed him 430 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: to that extension back in twenty twenty to buy out 431 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: a year of his free agency. It was at a year 432 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: or two. I can't remember exactly, but saying here, Freddy 433 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: is certainly in that conversation where the smallest market in 434 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: the league. But saying it seems that they would prefer 435 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: to keep Peralta in the blue and yellow. They don't 436 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: give me the exact Oh, here it is, he said 437 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Matt Arnold. I anticipate him being part of our team 438 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: moving forward. You know, I know Freddy Peralta, he is. 439 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: He is definitely involved with that organization. When they opened 440 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: up their International Training Development Center. You know, Freddy Parolta 441 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: was right there right when they opened that fit. He 442 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: was in that whole thing when they were using the 443 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: scissors on the on the red ribbon right there. So 444 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: you know they like Freddy Pearol to there, and he 445 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: loves being with the Brewers organization. If there was ever 446 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: a time for the Brewers to pump out the check book, 447 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was, you know, 448 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: Freddy Pearol. So that was a guy they signed to 449 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: an extension. So either way, you know they're looking like 450 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: they're at least as of right now, pumping the brakes 451 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: same thing Hunter Green Nick Krawl downplaying the chances of 452 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: a Hunter Green trade set here. It's a hard one 453 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: to actually say, Hey, we're going to trade the guy 454 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 2: that has a chance to be the ace of your 455 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: staff and the top of the rotation guy going into 456 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: the postseason. We're looking to figure out how to get better. 457 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: But right now that's not on the table. So you 458 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: got guys here that are running these teams saying, hey, 459 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: we don't want to give up the ace of our staff, 460 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: right But Ken Rosenthal, he had a little something on 461 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: this today on foul Territory. He did talk about this. 462 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: But if you do want to see that and you 463 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: are watching this on Nesson to see the rest of 464 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: the show, you're gonna have to come over to YouTube 465 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: Monster Territory and see what I have to say because 466 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: we are out of time on Nesson, but Nesson viewers, 467 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: thank you for watching. I'll talk to you next time. 468 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: But here we go. Here's cam Rosenthal. Where do you 469 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: see this market going? 470 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 4: And are there other names that are not are clearly 471 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 4: below Schooble, but have not been pushed. 472 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: Out there yet. 473 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: Well, this is an interesting conversation going on right now, 474 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: and it was going on at the meetings about which 475 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: starting pictures might actually get traded. And I wrote about 476 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: this in a notes column earlier this week. So the 477 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: Tigers are saying they don't want to trade Trek Spooble. 478 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 3: The Brewers are saying, we're not trading Freddie Peralta. Of course, 479 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: Paul Skens is not getting traded. Even the Twins with 480 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: Joe Ryan are saying we'd like to build around Joe 481 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: Ryan rather than just pedal him. There are some teams 482 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: that believe teams that are interested in these pictures, that 483 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: these other clubs, the clubs with the starting pitchers, are 484 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: merely posturing, and that at this appropriate time they will 485 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: certainly open up the conversations to a greater extent than 486 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: they are now. And in the Tiger's case, for instance, 487 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: it's just a matter of Okay, we'll play hard to get, 488 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: play hard to get, and then boom, strike a big 489 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: deal that could happen. But the Tigers, from what I understand, 490 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: what they're saying, at least right now, and It might 491 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: be bs for lack of a better phrase, but what 492 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: they're saying right now is we want to win in 493 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: our last year with Trek Schouble. We do not want 494 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: to trade him, and it would send a pretty bad 495 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: message to their fan base if after two years of 496 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 3: making the playoffs with Schooble being the centerpiece of the team, 497 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 3: that suddenly they shipped him out for pieces that probably 498 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't be having the same kind of immediate impact. So 499 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: I actually believe the Tigers likely will not trade Trek 500 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: Scooble in some of these other cases, I do wonder 501 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: if trades ultimately will occur. I also believe Peralta is 502 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: not going to move. The Brewers have been public and 503 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: adamant about that. But again we'll see as the winter progresses. 504 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: Once the free agents come off the board from bra Valdez, 505 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: Ranger Suarez, Dylan Cees, once those top guys are no 506 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: longer available, then the pressure might mount on those teams 507 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: to make trades from the teams that got shut out 508 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: in free agency. 509 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Alright, So, Ken Rosenthal, the big thing that he said 510 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: there was the leverage card that these teams might be 511 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: pulling here right, playing hard to get posturing. That happens 512 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: every offseason, right, especially in the early going here, and 513 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: it could very well these teams are they're just setting 514 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: a high price, right or you know, because that's what 515 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: teams do. They don't want to just give up their 516 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: guys for pennies, right, They don't want to just let 517 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: these eyes go. My thinking here, and I've posted about 518 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: this the last couple of days, and I've said this 519 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: a few times here on the show. I do wonder 520 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: if the Red Sox maybe missed their chance, at least 521 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: missed a better chance. I'm not saying they won't get 522 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: Joe Ryan or they won't have a chance to, but 523 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: it felt like at the deadline they had a really 524 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: good opportunity to pull something off, right, and they just 525 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't know who knows what exactly happened, but it 526 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: didn't end up happening right now. Again, I'm not saying 527 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: it can't happen, but I feel like that chance of 528 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: the deadline was an ultimate chance because now other teams 529 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: are involved. If he if he is available, right and 530 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: they are, you know, they're just posturing here, and if 531 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: the Twins are gonna be willing to trade him in 532 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: the end, you know, and they're saying, no, we're not 533 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: gonna move him, you know, but the other teams out there. 534 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Red Sox can't get aggressive. But then, 535 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: you know, maybe a team like the Mets, if Trek 536 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: schoobl is not gonna be a guy that can acquire 537 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: or Freddie Paroltz is not going to be available, do 538 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: the Mets all of a sudden say, hey, you know what, 539 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: we need a guy to go at the top of 540 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: this rotation. Hey we got we got a Joonah Toong 541 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: over here, we got Brandon Sproute over here, we got 542 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: someone like a Jet Williams. 543 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, like. 544 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: Depends on what's you got to wait for the dominos 545 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: to fall. There's really no answering. You know. I really 546 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: hope the Red Sox do get Joe Ryan. I really do. 547 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: I think he fits perfectly, not just because of the 548 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: good numbers that he put up, but I think his 549 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: profile fits really well with the Red Sox. When you 550 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: take a look at the bat ball profile, a lot 551 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: of the line drives fly balls, they go, they go 552 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: out to center field and right field. Obviously you got 553 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: Setti Willier out there. If Willier is still with the 554 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: team and SETI of course, but the dimensions based off 555 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: of the batted ball profile that he's given up, they 556 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: favor him very well. Doesn't give up a lot of 557 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: pulled balls, so you know you've got a wicked sweeper, 558 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: got good life on the fastball. I just think that's 559 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: a guy that can really fit very well behind Crochet. 560 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: But there's gonna be other teams, and if the Twins 561 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: are gonna play hard to get well, of course the 562 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Red Sox they can up their game, but maybe the 563 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: Mets up there game too, and they get to a 564 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: point where the Red Sox they're not gonna think it's 565 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: worth it. I'm just saying I'm always gonna be open 566 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: to multiple ways of thinking. I'm not gonna sit here 567 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: and say, oh, the Red Sox they're gonna get Joe Ryan. No, 568 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna play the biased 569 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: game because I'm always because I see a lot of 570 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: different podcasts out there where they'd be like, oh, the 571 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: Red Sox need to get this guy, or any podcast 572 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: so that matter that's talking about their own team, Oh 573 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: we need to go get this guy. This guy is 574 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: the other team going to be willing to meet you 575 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 2: halfway right, You have to think about both sides at 576 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: the end of the day. Let's say the Red Sox 577 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: and the Mets. I'm just thinking out loud right now. 578 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: Let's say the Red Sox and the Mets put down 579 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: very equal offers, both in terms of value. It's gonna 580 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: come down to what the Twins prefer. None of us 581 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: sitting here right now, we can play armchair GM all 582 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: we want. We don't know what the Twins are going 583 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: to prefer. We can take a look at, you know, 584 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: past guys they've acquired. We can take a look at 585 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: stats to maybe you know, one example that I'm talking 586 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: about the last couple of years, the last few years, 587 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: actually the Twins they've thrown a lot of change ups. 588 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: They actually rank very high when it comes to throwing 589 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: off speed pitches. Could that maybe be where maybe they 590 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: prefer a guy who has a good change up, you 591 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean, or good off speed pitches. I 592 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: don't know. There's no way of knowing what the Twins' 593 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: preference is going to be at the end of the day. 594 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Will that even be a big deal in the end, 595 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: you know, if we're offering a guy like Connolly, earlier 596 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: Peyton Totally, for example, but the Mets are offering Jonahtong, 597 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: Brandon Sproute. I mean, really kind of getting back to 598 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: what we were saying earlier, chocolate Vanilla. I feel like 599 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: you can't go wrong with either of those prospects. It's 600 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: gonna come down to, what are the twins pervert developmentally? 601 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, so, yeah, of course I would love 602 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 2: for the Red Sox to get Ryan. I think if 603 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: it's great, but it takes two to tango. Both teams 604 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: are gonna have to match up, right, So we don't know. 605 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: But as of right now, the twins, they seem like 606 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: they're at least as of right now, they are good 607 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: hanging on a Ryan. That could definitely be posturing. That 608 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: could very well be, Hey, no want to we want 609 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: to hang on to him because you want to compete. 610 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: But listen, like the old saying goes, anyone can be 611 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: had at a price, right, Maybe the Red Sox, maybe 612 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: they blow the other teams out of the water, and 613 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: that they blow the Twins out of the water, saying, hey, 614 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: we really want him, We'll give you this guy, this guy, 615 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: this guy, this guy, and I will say this. Could 616 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: it end up taking more to get Joe Ryan than 617 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: it took for Garrett Crochet. If you're looking at it 618 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: from a leverage point of view, I mean, the White 619 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: Sox pretty much were no doubt going to move Crochet. Well, 620 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: the Twins all right now, I mean they're saying, we 621 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: got some guys here that we think can help us compete. 622 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: We don't have to move Ryan. They don't. I mean, 623 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: realistically thinking they don't have to move him. They don't. 624 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: The White Sox it would have been stupid to hang 625 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: on to Garrett Kroschek. Would have made no sense for 626 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: them to hang on to Ryan. At least you can 627 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: make that kind of an argument, at least some kind 628 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: of an argument. So the Twins have more leverage in 629 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: this situation, So it might end up costing more to 630 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: get Ryan than Crochet. Just saying anyway, I'm rambling here, 631 00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: but don't fear. Let's say Joe Ryan, even Mackenzie Gore 632 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: I think could be a possibility. I'll talk about him 633 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: in a second. Freddy Parral to the guys on the Reds. Right, 634 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: let's say these guys just they're not gonna be available. 635 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: Hypothetically speaking, Let's just look in that world. All right, 636 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: well you have other options, Mackenzie Gore, you got the 637 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: tabony connection. I think you can make a very good 638 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: argument that the Nationals should move him. The only thing 639 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 2: that's been holding me back when it comes to Gore 640 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 2: is do the Nationals maybe want to take their time 641 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: a little bit. We saw Craig Breslo come into the fold, 642 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: and he, you know, he's kind of more conservative, right, 643 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: took his time a little bit. But then you saw 644 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: Heim Bloom come into the Red Sox, and Ownership basically said, 645 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: all right, we got a trade Mookie, right, David Price 646 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: as well, you know, get rid of those get rid 647 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 2: of those guys off our payroll. Right, So you can 648 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: go either way. What do the Nationals want to do. 649 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, but there is a I think a 650 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: good argument to move him, because I do think they 651 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: need to reset things a little bit and Gore, and yes, 652 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 2: he was part of the package that they got back 653 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: for Juan Soto, but hey, they still got James Wood 654 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: c j Abrams there. So it's not like the Wan 655 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: Sodo trade is gonna be a big old wasted opportunity 656 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: for them even if they trade away Gore, because they 657 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: still got a couple of pretty solid guys. Even if 658 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: they end up moving c. J. Abrams for crying out loud, 659 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: they would still have James Wood right. So, I think 660 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: the Nationals could definitely use a reset and trading. Gore 661 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: could bring back a solid package for Toibony to kind 662 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: of get things moving in the direction that he wants 663 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: to go. So I think Gore could be an option there. 664 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: Obviously there's a familiarity with him in the Red Sox. 665 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: Or I'll say this, I'll say this. Could they simply 666 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: go to free agency? Why not? You know, let's say 667 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 2: the trade market is not gonna give them what they're 668 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: hoping to get Joe Ryan, Freddie Perol to So let's 669 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: say McKay goes elsewhere. Why couldn't you go to the 670 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: free agent market. I feel like not a lot of 671 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: us are talking about free agency. I honestly think Dylan 672 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: Cees could be a guy. That's a guy they've shown 673 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: interest in the last couple of years. Why couldn't they? Now, 674 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: I know the Red Sox historically have been hesitant to 675 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: give out long term contracts for pictures. They've done it 676 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: a couple of a few times. David Price, right, John Lackey, 677 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 2: Dice kme Atsuzaka. They've done it a few different times. 678 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: Very rare though. 679 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: Could this be another time where the Red Sox I 680 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: think they would prefer to trade. And even Sam Kennedy himself, 681 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: who was on the show not too long ago, he 682 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: was hinting at hoping to make trades because they have 683 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: a lot of guys, they have a lot of capital 684 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: within the farm system to try and make a deal. 685 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: That's very obvious, right, But if that doesn't work out, 686 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: I could totally see them getting aggressive for Dylan Sees. 687 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: They were aggressive for Max Freed last offseason. It wasn't 688 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: enough to get it done. They did make the pivot 689 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: to Crochet and they got that done, But could they 690 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: maybe do an opposite pivot this time around trade market 691 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: not really working out the way they want, they pivot 692 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: a free agency. Dylan Cee is a guy they've been 693 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 2: looking at the last couple of years. He's been popping 694 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 2: up in trade rumors while he was with I believe 695 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: with the White Sox and the Pops Race, right. I 696 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: think two separate times the Red Sox popped up so Cease. 697 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: I don't know about Framber Valdez to be completely honest 698 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 2: with you, I think the Red Sox, you know, they're 699 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: in a competitive window now. I don't think they're even 700 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: willing to risk any sort of bad harmony within the 701 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: Red Sox locker room at this point. Framber with a 702 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: cross up situation, I don't know about that. You know, 703 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 2: after that it does kind of fall off, you know. 704 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: Could you look at someone like Michael King, Ranger Suarez, 705 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: Zach Gallon. There is tatsia am I coming out of Japan. 706 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: He could be intriguing. I can see the Red Sox 707 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: like in the especially the breaking and the off speed 708 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: stuff that he has. I can see the Red Sox 709 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: being intrigued there. But if not Michael King, possibly I 710 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: think he could very well go back to the Pog's 711 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: rays take the QO had a down year last year 712 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: with injuries. Rangers Suarez, but you know he's got some 713 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: durability issues. Could they take a chance on Gallon had 714 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: a better second half last year. But I keep circling 715 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: back to Dylan Cease. I do I keep thinking about him. 716 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: I know the Cubs are gonna be out there looking 717 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: for guys. I think the Giants make a lot of 718 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: sense for him. Astros have been connected with him. But listen, 719 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: you know you saw how quickly the Red Sox pivoted 720 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: last offseason. Max Fried signed with the Yankees and what 721 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: was it a day or two later, Garrett Crochet. They 722 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: made things happen very quickly and could cease being out. 723 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to count it at at all, not 724 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: at all, So we'll see. But right now, the starting 725 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: pitching trade market is looking rather cold. It can definitely 726 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: heat up, though. One more thing to talk about here tonight. 727 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: If well, I didn't even say if either way, Let's 728 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 2: say the Red Sox adds starting pitching, you know, trade market, 729 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 2: free agency. However they do it. Could they add to 730 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: the bullpen? I think, even if they add a guy 731 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: for the rotation, which I think they will or not, 732 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: I don't think that's an option at this point. I 733 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: think the Red Sox are going to add someone, it's 734 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: just a matter of who. But could they also add 735 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: to the pen? Well, why not? I would love a 736 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: super pen, a super bullpen. That could be interesting, though 737 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 2: the idea is further down their list of priorities. The 738 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: Red Sox are considering the addition of a high leverage 739 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: reliever to create a version of a super bullpen. People 740 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: familiar with the club's thinking set. And remember we got 741 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 2: to report the other day the Red Sox or at 742 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 2: least one of the many teams to show some interest 743 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: in Devin Williams. And you know I talked about this. 744 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: I think the Red Sox could use more strikeouts in 745 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: this bullpen. I believe they were eighteenth overall and strikeouts 746 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: per nine when it came to the relief pitching. You 747 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: got Chapman back there, striking guys out left and right. 748 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: But there is I think more strikeouts to be desired 749 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: in this bullpen, and I don't see why they couldn't. Honestly, 750 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you I've always been a big fan of 751 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: Ryan Helsley. I just love the big V loo that 752 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: he's got. I do love it. I would love that. 753 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: Could you imagine Chapman, Whitlock and Hellsley at the back end. 754 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: I know Hellsley had the downtime of the Mets, but 755 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: whatever he was with the Cardinals his entire career, he 756 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: went to a new organization first time didn't work out right. 757 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 2: I'm not really worried about that. I think it's a 758 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 2: blip on the radar. To be honest with you, I 759 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 2: would love Ryan Hells like big Velo there from the 760 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 2: right side Whitlock. You know, I think that that would 761 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: be such a great combo with Hells like Big v 762 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 2: Loo and then Whitlock. 763 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: Right. 764 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: He's also gonna pump some good Vello in there, but 765 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: he's got the nasty sinker right good slider as well. 766 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 2: That'd be lethal. Devin Williams Here's I said this not 767 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: too long ago. I just wonder after the up and 768 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: down year that he had with the Yankees, a part 769 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: of me thinks if he is one of those guys 770 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: that will thrive better in a smaller market. And that's 771 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: not a knock against him, it's not at all. I 772 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 2: very well could be wrong, but like you know, you've 773 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 2: seen it over the years with some guys where they 774 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: go to the Yankees or even go to the Red 775 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 2: Sox whatever, big market team, and they were great where 776 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 2: they were before. Yeah, look at Carl Crawford I mentioned 777 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: him earlier, that perfect example, right. You see guys go 778 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: to one of these big market teams and they just 779 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 2: have these struggles right. 780 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: Under. 781 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: If Devin Williams is maybe in that mold a little 782 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: bit where he's so good with the Brewers all right, 783 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: numbers wise, Williams would be great. He would definitely give 784 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: you a lot of strikeouts. I just wonder he does 785 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 2: get a lot of ground balls, So I do feel 786 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: like his profile, the batleball profile off of him would 787 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: work at Family Park very well. He just I don't 788 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: know what it is. He just scares me a little bit. 789 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: I feel like going to a bullpen like Detroit's or 790 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: San Francisco's where he's got a little bit more room 791 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: to play without there he does get a lot of 792 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 2: ground balls, but still you can make a couple more 793 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 2: mistakes over in San fran and Detroit with those nice ballparks, 794 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: and you know you got more room for error out there. 795 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: I feel like one of those teams would be very 796 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: good for him, and both teams could use bullpen up anyway. 797 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: Devin Williams, I wouldn't be mad if the Red Sox 798 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: got him, but part of me would worry a little. 799 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: I would say, Ryan Helsley, whatever, that guy just I 800 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: would love that. But I do think the Red Sox 801 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: need to add someone to this bullpen. I've said it. 802 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 2: I could see them going with getting another lefty option 803 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: out there on the free agent market. You know, Justin 804 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: Wilson could bring him back, Caleb Tillbarr possibly, you know, 805 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 2: I could see something like that. I gotta look more 806 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: at the lefty relievers that you could maybe get in 807 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: a trade. But maybe there could be something there. I 808 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 2: see you in the chat, Mad King, I low key 809 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 2: want Tyler Rogers. Yeah, I mean he'd be crafty. I 810 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 2: think that'd be pretty fun. It could be fun. But yeah, 811 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 2: super pen maybe. But let's see what you guys are 812 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: saying here in the chat. I did see a few 813 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 2: of you asking a couple of things. God's gift, Mike, 814 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: what do we offer for Ryan at the deadline? So 815 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard a couple of different things. 816 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: I think early or totally came up. I think Rob 817 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: Bradford had said Peyton totally and then in a package, 818 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, something along those lines. David Young, Robert Robert, Robbie. 819 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: What about Brian Wu went to the went to the 820 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: bullpen in the playoffs? I mean, Brian Wu. It depends 821 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: on what the Mariners want to do. Again, this is 822 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 2: kind of the perfect example of it takes two to tango. 823 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: The Mariners for so long have just not wanted to 824 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: give up starting pitching. Maybe this time around, after being 825 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: eight outs away from a World Series, maybe they make 826 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 2: maybe they have a change of heart. A serting fish 827 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: huge No, no thanks on Framber. I agree. I just 828 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: think Framber he's got to go somewhere where they got 829 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: a catcher where he's the guy, you know, like the 830 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 2: guy you're just not gonna mess with, right, like J 831 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: T Rail Muto right, No one's gonna screw around with 832 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: rail Muttart right right, one of the most respected catchers 833 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 2: in the game. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at 834 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: with that. I saw someone ask about Sandy all Contra. 835 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: I can't find exactly who said it. Oh, oh for Mike, 836 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: how about Sandy? Is Miami still willing to move him? 837 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: I think that's another guy where the Marlins looked really 838 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: good in the second half, and their biggest strength right 839 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: now is the rotation. You know, I just wonder after 840 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: the up and down season that he's had, he's gonna 841 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 2: lose value. Teams are gonna use that as leverage. Sure, 842 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 2: he had the better second half, but teams are gonna say, well, well, 843 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: he had a lot of issues in the first half. 844 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't know. We really want to 845 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: go that far for him. I don't know is he 846 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: fully back yet, I don't know. So I wonder if 847 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 2: the Marlins would get enough that they would think is 848 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: the right return I don't know, and then just go 849 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 2: into the season see what they got. Maybe they end 850 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: up being pretty good and not they they can move 851 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: them at the deadline. I'm not convinced Sandy's gonna get moved. 852 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 2: I'm just not I don't know. I don't know, Hunter Baldwin, 853 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 2: where do you think Bregman is on their big board? 854 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: I think right now Bregman is up there. But I 855 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 2: think right now they got their eyes on other things, right. 856 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 2: I think they're just gonna wait out the market for Bregman. 857 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 2: I think Boris is going to realize that at some point. 858 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 2: That's my prediction. I could be very wrong. I just 859 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 2: feel really good about bregman Man. I know that that 860 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: could shoot me in the foot, right, that could absolutely 861 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 2: blow up in my face. But I've said it many times. 862 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a market form, but I don't think 863 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: there's a strong market form. I just think the Red 864 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 2: Sox check off so many boxes. I'm not gonna sit 865 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 2: here and say the Red Sox or you know, they 866 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 2: have them just number one on their list, but I 867 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: think they're comfortable putting them a little further down, right, 868 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 2: I think, you know, putting even third on their list, right, 869 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: Alonzo Schwarber picture behind Grochet and then uh Bregmant. You know, 870 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 2: I think they're willing to wait, and I think they're 871 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: okay with that. So you know, you saw it in 872 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: the during the season, I was saying all the whole season, 873 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: come on, get the extincsion done. Let's just get this 874 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: wrapped up. Let's get this over with by then the 875 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: Red Sox, the fact that they didn't do it, I 876 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 2: think they feel very comfortable about it. And just like 877 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 2: with you know, JD Martinez, same thing last off season, right, 878 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: they waited it out, and I think they're gonna do 879 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: it again. That's just my prediction. Anyway, everybody, that's all 880 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: I got here for Friday night here tonight. I want 881 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: to thank you for joining me to see what my 882 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: potato face had to say here tonight. We'll be back 883 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 2: probably Monday. As of right now, we're keeping it to 884 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 2: three days a week, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, but of 885 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 2: course as the off season starts to pick up, there 886 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: could definitely be more shows in between, so definitely be 887 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 2: on the lookout. Make sure you have the notifications turned on. 888 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: If you are new here, think about subscribing. Hit the 889 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 2: like button on the way out for us everybody, it 890 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: really does help out. But everybody, I'm out of here 891 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 2: for tonight, thank you for joining me. Going joy your weekend. 892 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 2: Go out there, go eat some good food, Go get 893 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 2: yourself some exercise. Whatever that makes you happy, go do 894 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: it this weekend. Because we got no Pats this Sunday, 895 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: we can actually we can kind of breathe a little bit. 896 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: That might be upsetting actually to a lot of the 897 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 2: football fans out there, right because you just like football 898 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: on your Sunday. So now it's like it's almost like 899 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 2: you don't know what to do with your hands if 900 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 2: you're a football fan, because there's no Patriots on Sunday. 901 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: They already played, So find something else to do. Go 902 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: have some fun. Everybody, I'm out of here. Thank you 903 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: so much. I'll talk to you next time. 904 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 3: Da