1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Famous podcast. And today it's a really special day because 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: it's quite possibly the last podcast better than I do together. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: As he is a nonmarried man whoa married. You're gonna 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: be married possibly next time we do this. Yeah, so 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I am going to get married. Um, but I don't 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: know if I'll be able to be here next week 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: or not, because I think my flight is during our 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: recording time to I'm actually going to New York City 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: to open up a dark coffee shop there for a 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: grand opening, and then flying from there to Nashville. I 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't know that you're opening a generous shop in New York. Yeah, soho, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: we got it. It's in the good market. Yeah. You 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: what a huge week. That's insane. Yeah, it's great. Um, 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm so pumped. So there's so many cool things happening. 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: But I could be I'm gonna be getting married. And 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: when you say that, I feel like and I was 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: telling just this last night, we were talking like I 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: feel like I should be like feeling anxious or nervous. 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how you felt, Ashley. Um, but I'm 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: anxious or nervous, just stressed about like the day going 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: according to plan. Yeah, I think that's it for me. 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Is like I just really you know, we have the 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: whole team from FETE Nashville and um Jessica's mom and 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: my mom and Jessica. I will put myself into that, 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: but I haven't done as much as what they have 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: have virtually hard on making this wedding something that's gonna 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: be really fun. Like we wanted to be a celebration. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Your wedding was a celebration, Like we wanted to be 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: something that everybody came and enjoyed and like and like 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: walked away going wow, Like we felt like love was 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: being celebrated in that moment. I really want that to happen. 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm more nervous or anxious for that. I 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: am so at peace with the wedding thing like it is. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: It's almost oddly non emotional for me. I thought, I 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: completely kind of late. Yeah, I I hate to say that, 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: because like I'm like, oh, I always saw my like 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: gleaning up to my wedding, there would be this like 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: like almost like I can't hardly like breathe, and I don't. 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: But like I'm like, no, this feels awesome. Like I'm 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: this is great, this is cool. We're gonna get married 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be great. Is just doing like all 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: the last minute things like what is on her plate 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: right now? Um, she's doing everything from you know, she 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: just went and got her hair practiced. Um, why she's 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna wear it for the wedding. Um she did her 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: final dress fitting. Um she is starting to I think 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: this afternoon she took work off to start to pack 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and to prep um for everything that's going on there. 51 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: And then it's it's like a checklist of small things 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: that she has to do when she gets to Nashville, 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: and so just random little things. I I was in 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: charge of two things actually, the liquor um for the wedding, 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: which is good, the heaters for the wedding just in 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: case it's a little chili. And then my groomsman and 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I asked Jessica, so I think her wedding starts at 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: like five o'clock? You think I it's like four thirty 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: or five. It's one of those two. And I was like, hey, hunt, 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: oh it's at four great, perfect, Well I was an 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: hour off. I'll be there. Um, but I was asking 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: her last night. I was like, Hey, when should I 63 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: get my groomsmen to the venue to get ready? And 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: she's like, I don't know, what do you need to do. 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: I was like, well, we're gonna take pictures beforehand. She's like, yeah, 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Chicelein will take get dressed. I was like ten minutes. 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: She's like, okay, we'll get him there like two hours 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: in advance. I was like, well, I want him there longer. 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: I want to be kicking it with him that day. 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna get him there for like brunch 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: to hang out and watch football, while like Jesse's you know, 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: bridesmaid have to be there at the crack of dawn, 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: um doing their deal. It's great for me, I'm living 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: the dream. Jared loved hanging out with his groomsmen before 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: that was like one of the very special parts of 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the day. I actually wanted to be ah and I 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: was kind of like a weird bride. I was like, oh, 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: my mom, the wedding planner, and my sister, they can 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: be in the room, but like I just wanted like 80 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: a sense of peace and calm and just not like 81 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: to be surrounded by like a whole bunch of like 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: bipping girls do I all love very much? But I 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: was like, I just know myself and I I don't 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: want to get like, I don't want to put unnecessary 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: stress on me, holy everybody analyzing like what I look 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: like and my every little flick of makeup and all that. 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: I've got two questions for you. Are you guys writing 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: your own vows or will they be traditional? Jared and 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I did both. We did the traditional vows and we 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: wrote her on I'm gonna write We're gonna write our own. Um. 91 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I actually like the idea of doing both. Maybe we'll 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: mix that incause I haven't thought about that, but I 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: have a lot I want to say to her, uh 94 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: in front of everybody, and I think she feels similar, 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: and so I wanted that moment. You know. The way 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: the way we view this is like, this is definitely 97 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: like our special day, but it's a day to also 98 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: celebrate the people that are gonna be in that room 99 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: with us, because like we we feel very thankful that 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: we have these people in our lives, and so I 101 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: want them to We wanted them to be involved in 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: that and hear what was coming from our heart. Um. 103 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: But I like the idea of doing both, you know, 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: this week and I'm not to change the subject because 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: this is such an amazing thing. And tomorrow we have 106 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: People magazine coming to the house in Denver and we're 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: into our photo shoot and they're they're covering the wedding, 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: which is just like so cool for us, uh to cool, right, Yeah, 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: Like you get to tell your kids that you're what 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: I have People Magazine. That was like our sealing the deal. Um. 111 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: And so they come like our kids are gonna be 112 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: like a wait, why Yeah, they're gonna be They're not 113 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: going to think I'm cool, and that's fine. Um, but 114 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: they come to myorrow and so we're really excited for that. 115 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: But um, this last week, you know, I missed last 116 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: week's podcast because I was in a wedding UM for 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: my best friend who who I talked about, who has 118 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a LS and they did their own vows and it's 119 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: really hard for him right now to speak UM, and 120 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: I lost it. And I lost it for a couple 121 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: of reasons. One, it's hard, like it sucks, like you 122 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: see your best friend that you love dearly, um struggling 123 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: to get words out and you know, having to pause 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: to catch his breath and like that whole thing is 125 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: is brutal to see. But also there was this level 126 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: two when since we're talking about the vows to where 127 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: like he was able to share you know, he he 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: had like a line in there like when you met me, 129 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: this wasn't the plan um and this illnesses came came 130 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: about as we were together. But I also don't want 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: to go through this with anybody else, and I lost it, 132 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: like absolutely lost it, and I just like I want 133 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: that from my wedding because everybody in the audience heard 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: where they were at in life and knew the commitment 135 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: they were both through making to each other in that moment. 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: And for me, I was like, this is why we're 137 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: doing our own vows, because this touches something more personal 138 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: than than anything that is maybe you know, traditional or 139 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: written up already. I completely agree. I wanted traditional just 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: because I'm a traditionalist, but then I wanted to write 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: them because I also it's just like at this point, 142 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: traditional sometimes feels like, oh, you know, we've heard the 143 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: cizillion times, yeah, and it's not Yeah, it's obviously not 144 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: personal with us anyway, Wait, how old is he? He 145 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: is thirty five and how long has he had it? 146 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: He was just diagnosed a month and a half ago. Um, 147 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: but he's just the guy that you thought had lime disease. Yeah, 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 1: same guy. So you know, they thought, oh my god, 149 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Yeah. So he was living with me, 150 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: um when he started to lose his speech, and I 151 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: was like, dude, why like why do you stumble your 152 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: words at night? Like we just had like one beer, 153 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: Like what's going are you? Like have you been drinking? 154 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Like are you super sad? Like are you drinking alone 155 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: at night? Like I'm here to drink with you as 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: much as you need to get through, you know, his 157 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: life at that point, and um, he's like no, I 158 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know what's going on. And um, 159 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: they diagnosed with him lime and they actually say that 160 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: lime disease can spark if you have like the A 161 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: L S gene or whatever it is in your body, 162 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the trauma of a of lime can spark that to 163 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: happen faster. So they think maybe that he had both. Um. 164 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: So right after this, right after this, we are like 165 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: we are full advocacy mode, like we were talking to 166 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: every single group of people out there, and that's I 167 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: actually just got a message from an almost famous listener today. 168 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Her name is Amanda. I won't share her last name obviously, 169 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: and her husband was diagnosed with a l S at 170 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: twenty nine and he's it's two years in for him 171 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and he's still doing really well. There's some like um 172 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: experimental treatments out there. A LS is really underfunded because 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: people get it and they pass away fairly quickly. So 174 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: like the investment in the pharmaceutical companies doesn't necessarily see 175 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: the monetary value of putting a lot of research behind it, 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: which is too bad. And um, but if you have 177 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: any information, message me or email me. Um and uh 178 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: and I would love to hear a contact dot Bend 179 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: dot Hay at gmail dot com. I'd love to hear 180 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: anything you have because we are full on like miracle mode. Now, 181 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: let's go weddings done, they're in love, they're happy. Let's 182 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: make magic happen. It's kind of our philosophy right now. 183 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: It is the worst and it needs to get up here. 184 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: It's horrible. Um, and that's gonna be amazing. I'm excited 185 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: to see what you guys can do. Yeah, and then 186 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: and then I have to go back to your wedding 187 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: for second, Do you guys aren't doing a first look, 188 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: are you? Um no, We're well, we'll do we'll do 189 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: it before. We're doing photos before. Is that what the 190 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: first look is? Are doing photos before? Yeah, because I'm 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: shocked at that. I thought that you guys would be 192 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: a little bit more traditional in the sense that, like 193 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: you see for the first time walking down the aisle, 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: you really want to get the photos done. Yeah, because 195 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: we're our reception is only a few hours and like 196 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: it's like four and a half hours, and if you 197 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: did photos and it's another you know, hour out of that, 198 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: and we just wanted to be able to get around 199 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: and say hey to everybody. And so we're gonna do 200 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: it before. And there's like a lot of moving parts. 201 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: You know, you get stuff donated to your wedding, and 202 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: you get stuff done at your wedding and uh, and 203 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: you just want to get those done like beforehand. Uh, 204 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: in our opinion, So we are going to do that. Um, 205 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: we don't know how. I don't know how we're gonna 206 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: do the look yet, but it's I actually more excited 207 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to just have her and eye in that moment um 208 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: and when she walks down the aisle. Obviously that's gonna 209 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: be a whole new ball game. But like just to 210 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: have her and Eye in that moment, to see each 211 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: other as something that like I'm very um actually, like 212 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: I could tear up just thinking about it. Um. Yeah, 213 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm just really excited for that because like she's just 214 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: beautiful and she's gonna shine, and I know she's gonna 215 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: look beautiful, and I know that night's gonna be like 216 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: she's gonna feel super loved, and so I'm I'm just 217 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: so excited, um for us to get here. We're only 218 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: a few like we're not even two weeks away now, um, 219 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: and so we got we got some more. I guess 220 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I gotta go to New York before this. Actually, like 221 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: this is this is a lot to do. I have 222 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: so many questions to just keep popping up. I now 223 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I need your prediction on what her dress is gonna be. Like, Um, 224 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: I knew you're gonna ask me something like this, because 225 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be like fairly simple, doesn'teem. I 226 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna have any shoulders. Um strap list 227 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: that's good. Help me out with the verbage. As I 228 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: talked through this, I think it's going to have like 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: a really cool design, like over the chest, in the belly, 230 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: like I think in the front it's gonna be like 231 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: will be embroidered. Yeah, there you will. There be bling. 232 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: I feel like no, no, no, no bling. Um yeah 233 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: I was bling like jewelry. No, that's like the dad 234 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: like like crystallized beds, stuff like that, like pearls. I 235 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: don't think so, I think. I don't. I don't see 236 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: her do I don't see her loving that because you know, 237 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: she's she's like, she's so naturally beautiful that she doesn't 238 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: wear a lot of stuff usually, and she's so tiny 239 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: that when she wears like a necklace, she looks like, 240 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a big old thousand fifty gold 241 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: chain on her when she wears anything. Um, you know. Yeah. 242 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be fairly simple design. Um. 243 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I imagine it being backless. Um was that the right 244 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: word for that? Okay? Cool? Um, it's gonna be hard 245 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: to be strapless and backless, but it could be done. 246 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Could be done. Well, what's what's the shape? Is it 247 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: going to be a ball down a line like Mermaids? 248 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: What's an a line? I feel like lines, a line. 249 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: I think a line for jazz for sure. That's like 250 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: you know how mine was ball Mine was ball down. 251 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: So it kind of like goes from the waist and 252 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: like over a little bit, like really poofy. This is 253 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: like the more understated version, like it goes like a 254 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: a like it's in the shape of its puff, but 255 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: down a line. I see an a line with her. Yeah, 256 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: that's it. I think I got it a line. Um. 257 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm I was going to show you one 258 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: of my groomsmen gifts. Actually, none of my groomsmen listen 259 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: to this podcast um at all. Uh. And that's not 260 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: because they hate me, it's just because they don't. Yeah, 261 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: this is uh, this is one of my groomsman gifts 262 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: that I'm so pumped for that I'm gonna make everybody 263 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: wear at the wedding. Oh my gosh, guys, they're Ben 264 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Higgins boxers, the boxer briefs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, They've got 265 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Ben's face all over them. You think that's good as Yeah, 266 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: that's really cute. Good, we'll get a picture in them. Um, 267 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited for this one. But oh, Ashley, it's a 268 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: huge thing. I'm so pumped. And then the honeymoon is 269 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna be really exciting. We're going to St. Barts. Where 270 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: is that St Barts? Um, we're gonna fly down there 271 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: for a week. After the day after, we're gonna take 272 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: a day and rest and then fly out like that Monday. Yeah, 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: And I think I got that from you. Also. I 274 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: thought about you two weeks ago. We were taking final 275 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: details for the ceremony and we were talking about you 276 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and Jared and we're like, you know, your wedding was 277 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: so much you guys, Like it's so personal. There's so 278 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: many like different things that you added in that made it, 279 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: um just match your personalities, which is so cool. And 280 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: so we have a surprise for our wedding that came 281 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: from the inspiration of you all reading at the wedding. 282 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: That's gonna be I think, awesome. Um yeah, So yeah, 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: you can think about what you're thinking about you as 284 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: we did this. Can't wait to see it. I wonder 285 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: if it'll go off in my head be like, oh, 286 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: this is the moment you'll know and then well, then 287 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: after the wedding, when we do a wedding brief on 288 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: this podcast, Um, I'll give all the details here. Um, 289 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it was, and we'll talk about 290 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: it with everybody here on the podcast, and I'll read 291 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 1: through exactly what they're reading was so they get an idea. Um, 292 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: but you'll you'll know, Okay. Cool alright, Ben, Well it's 293 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: about time we start talking about the Bachelor at episode. 294 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: So after this quick break, we'll be here to give 295 00:14:53,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: you the recap. Alright, we're back. Um, so much more 296 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: wedding to discuss uh in the next few weeks. Thank 297 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: you all for the kind words on Instagram. Um, just 298 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: about the wedding coming up. It's such a cool deal. 299 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, this is a huge podcast. Life is changing, 300 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Ashley is pregnant, I'm getting married. We're growing up right 301 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: here in front of your eyes and in your ears. Well, um, 302 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: we've also grown up as a podcast because we started 303 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: this in uh for the Bachelor in Paradise. It was 304 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: a huge success. We've loved doing it. It's so much 305 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: fun to do. It's the Bachelor Brackett and the Bachelor 306 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: Bracket rule of the week. If you don't know what 307 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about, please join our almost famous Bachelor Brackett. 308 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: It is absolutely awesome. Uh. The winner came on the 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: podcast here just a couple of weeks ago, um, and 310 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: that was just fun to hear all of her strategy 311 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: and insights. But anyways, the rule of the week is this, Um, 312 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: for week four, you get five plus points every time 313 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: a contestant says the word bro when talking to another contestant. Again, 314 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: you get five more points every time the word burrow 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: is thrown around. And after seeing this week's episode, I 316 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: believe there are some burrows thrown around this week for sure. 317 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: For sure, these clues are awesome. They really do coincide 318 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: well with the week ahead. Ben, I gotta get your 319 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on Jamie from last week's episode before we get 320 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: into this one, because he again plays a big role. Yeah. So, 321 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, Jamie came out of 322 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: the limo and he obviously had like a confidence to him, 323 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: like a swagger that like was noticed and uh and 324 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: it always makes me hesitant on this show. I'd say, 325 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: like anytime somebody seems really smooth and cool, Um, just 326 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't I personally don't believe anybody's actually like that. Like, 327 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I just don't think every anybody is like always so 328 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: cool the time. I think everybody has a little goof 329 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: to him. Um, so you're like, okay, putting on a 330 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: good first impression, and then he has his date and 331 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: and like he might have had the most roller coaster 332 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: of an episode I've ever seen, because my god, Ben, 333 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: I know you weren't here last week, but like I said, 334 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know I've ever seen somebody's story arc go 335 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: up and down multiple times like that in one episode. Yeah, 336 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: so you know, obviously he opens up and he tells 337 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: his story, and I don't want to neglect that or 338 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: push that away and say, like, you know that that 339 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: was important and I and I don't know him, I 340 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: believe it to all be true. I believe obviously there's 341 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that comes along with that, like 342 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: trauma and just you know, childhood nous that has probably 343 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: stuck with him as an adult. And so he has 344 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: his story and like I'm watching it at the time 345 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: in that place and going, he's, um, everybody's gonna fall 346 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: in love with him. He's the guy. He's it like 347 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe he is this cool all the time. And then 348 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: you see the end of last week's episode and you go, 349 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like this dude feels I mean, it 350 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: almost feels like all of a sudden within moments like 351 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: now I just don't like him, Like I don't enjoy 352 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: watching him, I don't enjoy him as a person, and 353 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: like I want him gone, Like he's not good for Michelle. 354 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: And he almost feels like after last week like the 355 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: guy that could trigger um, like he's some guy he's not. 356 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: And then you get to this week and it all 357 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: capped off actually with me where I was like still 358 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: holding on the hope that he still is that guy. 359 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he just messed up and overspoken, overshared and got 360 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: insecure and said something he didn't mean, or said something 361 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: like we've all done it where you like explain yourself 362 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: and you know you you say everybody's thinking this, or 363 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: back in high school used to be like, you know, 364 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: I hear a rumor, um that you've done this. We're 365 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: really the rumors just in your own head. So I think, 366 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: maybe give him the benefit of the down here. But 367 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: then he sits down with the producer after Brandon gets 368 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: the rose and he's talking about him being this up 369 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: here and Brandon being downe here. I'm like, no, you're done, 370 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: like you're out, you know what, Like I don't You're 371 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: not here anymore. I don't want you here anymore. You 372 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: are you are falling fast, buddy, you are done. That 373 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: guy had such an ego on him. There was bad vibes, 374 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: like the it was, it was weird, like and I 375 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: it's always harder to say because he has a sad backstory, 376 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: but there was something evident even when he was having 377 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: his good moments on the episode last week, where I 378 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: just felt like there's something off, there's something like not 379 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: good here. And then this week's episode, even before he 380 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: sat down with the producer was like something he's off. 381 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we knew what he did last week, 382 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: so like that was the off thing, but the just 383 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: the ego, just him being saying something like I can 384 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: see the way that sher she lights up around me, 385 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: or like the way that she's so gravitated towards me, 386 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: Like have you ever heard of a contestant speak about 387 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: the leads gravitational pull to them well and then speak 388 00:19:54,680 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: so poorly of the lead to like I'm not gonna 389 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: judge it, I'm just gonna like laugh. But it's like, no, dude, 390 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: you're just you're you are dismissing who Michelle is a 391 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: human right now? And like what what do you mean? 392 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: She's in spring break mode, like she's dating and maybe 393 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: she's not as into you as you in your head 394 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: thinks she should be or is. And that's why you're 395 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: saying it's spring break mode for her, because yes, she 396 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: doesn't give you all attention. I'm fired up at this 397 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: point in this episode actually like this is and and 398 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: at this point before we start breaking down the whole 399 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: episode and going into like the men confronting him, and 400 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: what I will say is Jamie's weird way of reconciling 401 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: it in his own head and not making any sense 402 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: anybody else bananas is. I'm so fired up at this 403 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: point because, as you know, there's some things on the 404 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: show that really get me going. And somebody thinking they 405 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: are the coolest person out there is one of the 406 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: things that really gets me fired up, especially when they 407 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: continue to double down on it. I know, do you 408 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: want to get to that later? Do you want to 409 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: finish Jamie talk now? I don't know what do you 410 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: want to do? Well, we'll finish it now because I'm 411 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: so fired up. Okay, okay, Well I can't believe that 412 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: he was like no, no, no, like the Verbon she 413 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: was trying to use to talk himself, like the room. 414 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it wasn't individuals, but it was an 415 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: overall thing. And I was like, oh wait a second, No, 416 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: to be an overall thing, it has to start with individuals. 417 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: Nothing he was saying was making sense. And then he 418 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: was like, like for the viewers, And that's a great 419 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: moment in this episode of viewers. Oh my god, it's 420 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: a great moment in this episode because as a view 421 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: you're sitting there going so he's like speaking for me, 422 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: and I'm watching it and I'm like, why are you 423 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: trying to protect me, buddy? Like there's a thousand things 424 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: on this show that I never see or understand when 425 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: I watch it back, Like I'm just didn't it for 426 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: the ride? And you're in your head thinking that you're 427 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: giving the view Like are you saying you're giving the 428 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: viewers the benefit of the doubt by filling this storyline 429 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: for them, Because if so, you have really really poorly 430 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: analyzed what this show is, because when you're in it, 431 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: the last thing you should be thinking about at any 432 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: time is the viewers and how they're going to perceive 433 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, it was like he was trying to 434 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: be a producer as well. He also remember like last 435 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: week he was like, I need to see if Michelle 436 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: is the kind of woman that will like go do 437 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: things for the moment with me, Like I need to 438 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: see if she's a match for me. And it doesn't. 439 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: It's not a one way street here, which I can 440 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: respect the thought behind that. But now this week it 441 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: was all about competition for him. You could just tell. 442 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: It was all about beating the other guys and being 443 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: above the other guys and mentally and believing he is 444 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: above the other guys, like believing already that he is 445 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: in an a league of his own, which is just 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: not true. Like and I'm not saying that because Jamie's 447 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: not great. I don't know him personally. I'm just saying, 448 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: you're on the Bachelorette, Like every person in that room 449 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: either has a story to tell or they're a human 450 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: who is trying to date this woman, like they all belong. 451 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: At any point, if any person ever comes into the 452 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: show or off the show believing they're above anybody else 453 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: on it, like you're just wrong, Like you're you just 454 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: are even if you're the lead of the show, it 455 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: doesn't you're still like there's a there's five or six 456 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: people every season that could possibly be the lead lead 457 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: of this show. It doesn't mean that you're any greater. 458 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: And at this point, he's in this conversation with these 459 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: guys and he's believing that, like he's rolling his eyes, 460 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: like he's so smart, and they just don't get it, 461 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: Like he just said, keep saying, you just don't get it, 462 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: you just don't get it. And I'm thinking, Jamie, at 463 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: what point in your life are you gonna humble yourself 464 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: to do some introspection and maybe say you were wrong, 465 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: because this whole thing gets fixed. It's a beauty of 466 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: watching this show back, and it's the beauty of relating 467 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: to life. You can mess up in life. I'm with that, 468 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: Like you could have said something like he did and 469 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: really like throwing the whole thing off course. But as 470 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: soon as you do some introspection realize you are wrong, 471 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: you just admit it and then like typically people understand 472 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: because they've been there too. But he, like he just 473 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: keeps doubling down, like I'm so smart, you don't get it. 474 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to help out. I'm in the right, you're 475 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: in the wrong. And I bet he got on that 476 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: bus or whatever they picked him up in, still believing 477 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: that he was in the right Oh one thousand percent. 478 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: Two more things I have to mention. First, he said, 479 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I love the way that Michelle was like, okay, wait 480 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: a second. So you were like hearing things in the 481 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: house and then all of a sudden you remember this 482 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: personal story from your friends seeing me out with another guy, 483 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: and it's like, mm okay, so great points to be like, 484 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: actually you were probably pretty focused on this. Actually here 485 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: is the thing you aren't wrong. I will say this. 486 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: And the close up the Jamie thought too, I've never 487 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: seen a guy fall so fast like we're what we're 488 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: doing here is this is all within the moment of 489 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: like really just an episode, like from going from the 490 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: top to the bottom so quickly totally. And another thing, 491 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: I feel like when she let him go, she was 492 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: scott to be she had got to be so grossed 493 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: out by him, you know what I mean? She was like, 494 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: I spent this week kissing this guy and now I 495 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: see his true colors, Like just get out, no hug 496 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: now nothing. I want to pretend like you never existed. Yeah, 497 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I never had that moment like where you know, like 498 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: just like I never had that like grossed out moment 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: on my time where like somebody like epically blew up 500 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I've spent the last two weeks, 501 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, kissing you and and understanding you, and I 502 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: guess I have that benefit, but you're right, like you 503 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: have to imagine what she was feeling there. She's like, wait, 504 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: I was in you like two hours ago, right, and 505 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: and we all we laugh about it. But it's funny 506 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: how like quickly somebody can just become unattractive to you, um, 507 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: when you like, especially with the personal I think this 508 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: is one of those moments where she's like, I was 509 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: so into this and now all of a sudden, I 510 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: can't even be in the same moment in the same room. UM. 511 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: I was hoping Ashley too that once he was gone. 512 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: It felt like this group of guys, you know, we're 513 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks in now. Um, for the most part, 514 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: UH kind of understood each other. I thought there was 515 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: some solid foundational pieces that we're going to keep the 516 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: group like functioning fairly well together and um bring some 517 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: joy and laughter to the group. And you know a 518 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: lot of them stood up for I forget his name 519 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: the guy that she was supposedly dating beforehand. Um. Yeah, 520 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: Like there's some guys that stood up for Joe that 521 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: was just like, hey, you know, I don't think they 522 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: were dating, and like get off of Joe's back, like 523 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: you was like, he was like, hey, you're sticking up 524 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: for each other. This is good. Then we see a 525 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: preview and I'm like, wait something, So this still blows 526 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: up like every season always does. Yeah. I was thinking 527 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: also with the elimination of the pizzrepreneur, I was like, wow, 528 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: did we get the drama completely out of the house already? No, 529 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: of course not, but we can now we we can 530 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: start from the top of the episode. We'll skip the 531 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: Jamie stuff of course. Um the first the first date, 532 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh god, Jared was very envious. So big big Tom 533 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: Cruise guys over here, big top gun fans. Uh. Jared 534 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: has been counting down honestly the years now. So the 535 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: movie was going to come out because it was supposed 536 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: to come out last summer, and then they pushed it 537 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: back to November and it was still I believe um 538 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: set for November release when they shot this date and 539 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: then they moved it back to June. My gosh, my years. 540 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: It was supposed to come out November this month, and 541 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: now they pushed it back to June. So this is 542 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: a very cool theme date. Love the way that they added, 543 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: like the music, and they had some of the cast 544 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: um cute cute. Liked it. Um. The only thing that 545 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: really sucked for them was having to do that motion thing. 546 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: What is that motion like it's like the G four simulator. Yeah, 547 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean that sucked, but it was also fun. I 548 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: mean it's like, you know, it's a it's a cool experience. 549 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: I liked this group date. Like you said, I thought 550 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: it was I actually thought every group date this episode 551 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: was like kind of went above and beyond anything we've 552 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: seen the last few seasons when it comes to who 553 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: they bring in and just the structure of it. This 554 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: one like it was far and away really great. You know, 555 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: obviously you have the Pizzapreneur and Little Willie Um going 556 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: at it. Little Willie just crushed him, by the way, 557 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: and that he came up with some great nicknames around 558 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: in the spot. Yeah. But like that little fighting scene, 559 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Clayton's massive obviously, um and just like destroys dudes. 560 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: But then like little Willie and this guy. I'm like ready, 561 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my popcorn and I'm ready for this fight, 562 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: and he just destroys this guy. I want to know 563 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: from you, Ashley, whose side were you on, like at 564 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: this moment, like are you because obviously little Willie is 565 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: in trouble because he calls a pizzapreneur narcissistic uh during 566 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: the first group day. Then they go on this day 567 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: together and they have like this beef with each other. 568 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: Um that kind of comes back up and is unsettled 569 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: because the pizzapreneur feels like little Willie stole his lines 570 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: during the G four steal. Who side are you on? 571 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm on Willie's side, okay, But I also understand that 572 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: it would be kind of annoying that like Pizzapreneur ends 573 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: up doing Italian and then he goes and sneaks Spanish, 574 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: like okay, get your own thing. But I also think 575 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: Pizzapreneur is just like an outrageous human vating. Yeah, he's 576 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: he reminds me of Yosef Joseph. Wow, what a throwback. Yeah, 577 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: he does remind me of Yosef. Yeah. I mean I 578 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: think he's like, I think he was just outraged I'm 579 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: with you. He was like outrageous and then like I 580 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: wasn't buying into his stuff at all during really leading 581 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: up to this, but they obviously had their beef and 582 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: then the group they are, the cock party happened and 583 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm so thrown off by the dough boy there, like 584 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: so mad, so not okay to throw that jacket in 585 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: the pool, like I was just I was upset for well, yes, 586 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: and he starts crying, and I'm like, if Jared had 587 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: won this Maverick jacket, he would have started crying thrown 588 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: in the pool. Oh jar. I could see Jared being 589 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: so angry, like Will got sad and kind of like 590 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: did his thing and walked away, which was great. Um, 591 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: I would see Jared like if I if I, if 592 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: I threw Jared's jacket Maverick jacket in the pool, I 593 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: would be scared for my life, Like I don't see 594 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't see him go on about this. Well, you've 595 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: never seen jaredy dramatic on the show at all. He's 596 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: like so even keeled on TV. But if he had 597 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: won the Maverick jacket, like, oh god, he this would 598 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: have been his like pride and joy. I can see 599 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: that well, um, but yeah, he throws in the pool, 600 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: which was a sign of disrespect. It was also just 601 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: like it's somebody else's personal stuff and you just don't 602 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: do that, right, You just don't mistreat somebody else's stuff 603 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: like that. But then the way he came back to 604 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: the chairs saying he feels great, Like what person willingly 605 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: hurt somebody else knows that they just hurt somebody else, 606 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: knows that somebody else is upset emotionally about it and 607 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: hurt about it, and goes, yeah, I feel so good 608 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: about this, Like that is that is outrageous to me. 609 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody in my life that would hurt 610 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: even their worst enemies. Like then, I'm talking like just 611 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: people I know, not even friends as people I know 612 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: and come back at their you know, couch and be 613 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: like that felt so good to make that person feel 614 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: so small. That was so terrible. It was like he 615 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: was trying to lean into the villain role. Well that 616 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: failed for him miserably, and I think it will Like 617 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: villains like him don't become popular from the show. It's 618 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: it's the semi villain that's not really a villain, but 619 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: we just like they just talk a lot, or they're 620 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: like outrageous and they just say a lot of things. 621 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: You know. I'm thinking Karin and like Demi, who end 622 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: up like people love because they're like they're just funny, 623 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: like they just they they're just they're they're funny humans. 624 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: But villain, like a villain, villain, like a mean villain 625 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't fly. No, So Martin gets the group date. 626 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: Shocker to me, Um, dark horse for for real? Um, 627 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: I think we would take him more seriously if you 628 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: didn't have for us to tips though. Isn't that embarrassing? Yeah, 629 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: but he's growing on me. When I saw his picture, Yeah, 630 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: when I saw his picture when he did the breakdown, 631 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: I forget what we said about him. I think I 632 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: probably said night wonner Um, because you're like you know, 633 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: and and even when the show started, I was like, 634 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: how do you take this dude serious? And now I'm like, no, 635 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: this guy is legit, Like yeah, I like him, Yeah 636 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: he's good. Uh. And it was still a shocker that 637 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: got the group day rose just because you don't expect 638 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: him to get that in a group they rose typically 639 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: means you know, you're gonna be around a little bit longer. 640 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: And I think he might. I think he might get 641 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: a one on one soon, so I'm excited to see 642 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: where he goes from here. But yeah, good vibes. He 643 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: like makes himself look like a tough guy, but like, 644 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think he's kind of mushy. Yeah, 645 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: speaking of mushy Rodney. Rodney gets the one on one 646 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: and he's a mushball. He's very sweet. He's the guy 647 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: that we've known for apples thus far, which Ben, you 648 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: and I have got to talking about the apple thing. 649 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: How crazy use it that last week he like couldn't 650 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: taste the difference in a Granny Smith apple versus like 651 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: a red apple. I love that he's now the apple 652 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: guy because it's gonna stick with him and he doesn't 653 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: even know apples, Like he just walked himself into a 654 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: situation he's not prepared for. Well. They continue with the 655 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: theme of this on a Truth or Dare date where 656 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: first he needs to feed her food and she needs 657 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: to like guess what it is and she does a 658 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: way better job than Rodney's done. They also like photocopy 659 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: parts of their body. They what what else they do 660 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: around naked? Ran around naked, which there's like some weird 661 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: themes recently between food and nakedness. I feel like when 662 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: you're stuck in a hotel, you just tell people to 663 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: get naked and people are gonna watch. It's just it's 664 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: like it just sells at least, like his front area 665 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: is not showing. I feel like the butt, you know, 666 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: a but is funny, A man's butt, It is funny. Yeah, 667 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's always funny. It's not. Yeah, it's it's 668 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: never something that impressive, it's just always funny. The the 669 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: thing with Rodney is, and Michelle does a great job 670 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: at it, you know, I almost feel like he set 671 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: himself up for a failure. So there's this like difference 672 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: between the Jamie's of the world that viewed themselves is 673 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: the coolest thing out there, and then the Rodney's of 674 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: the world, who are obviously incredible people. But he doesn't 675 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: view himself in any type of value or any type 676 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: of esteem or like he belongs there. And I get 677 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: that insecurity, but by expressing it so much so often, 678 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: I feel like he almost just convincing himself and Michelle 679 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: that he's just like lucky to be around. And like, 680 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's ever like an attractive quality 681 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: when you're like always trying to convince somebody that they're 682 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: just lucky to be there. And the truth is, like, 683 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: he is a sweet guy. Guys like him in the 684 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: house he is. He's one of those pieces I said, 685 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: and foundationally, we'll keep that house together. I believe he's 686 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: gonna be great with Michelle through this whole experience, maybe 687 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: even at the end. I don't believe he will be 688 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: the one at the end, but I believe he is 689 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: a great dude. But I just want him to believe 690 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: that a little bit so we can see his confidence 691 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: come out and I and it's people like him that 692 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: we get to see those stories of when their confidence 693 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: finally blossoms. It happened for me on the show, is 694 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like you had a little reassurance 695 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: and you have a couple of week weeks there, and 696 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, wait, I do belong 697 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: here and I do belong in this world. Yeah. So 698 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: I think this will be the end of that not 699 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: feeling so great at himself because he was gonna keep 700 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: going with it. Then it would be like all right, dude, 701 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: come on now and then act like during the dinner proportion, 702 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: we see the two of them connect, and Michelle even 703 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: at the end says that like Rodney tipped away from 704 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: just a friend zone to being, you know, somebody she's 705 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: looking at as a romantic partner, which is awesome to 706 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: see and I hope he believes that. But you know, 707 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: Michelle has promised us even when she was on our podcast, 708 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: that this season was going to have conversations that Um 709 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of depth to him that she believed 710 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: would be beneficial for all to see and watch Um 711 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: and Rodney and She'll have one of those conversations. Is 712 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: not the first time this season where these conversations have happened, 713 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: but they both talk about how they have grown up 714 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: in a predominantly white area, that they have both been 715 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: called terrible names, that it's been difficult, and they relate 716 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: on this in this level and then we get to 717 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: watch them have that conversation back Um and I think 718 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot to learn, a lot to listen to, 719 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: a lot to hear from that Uh, and they're doing it. 720 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: It's it's it's beautiful to me because they're doing this 721 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: in a way that, like I think it's both showing 722 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: them a place of empathy and support, but then also helping, 723 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, unlike Jamie's ideas, like all of us understand better, 724 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: like where how they're connecting at a romantic level. And 725 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be the start of something. 726 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: I would believe, Like I said, he's gonna be around 727 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: a while because they get each other in a lot 728 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: of ways. I feel like he's gonna be around for 729 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: a long time. How dare I say, maybe like top four? Yeah? Yeah, 730 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: and uh. She says that he makes her feel safe, 731 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: which is always like that is like key been in 732 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: the midst of these like really important conversations. Rodney has 733 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: this way of being just watching on TV. I've never 734 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: been him in person obviously, but like having this way 735 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: of just bringing this like comfort. Yes, Like he's really 736 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: easy to watch because he feels himself to be like 737 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: an underdog, so you think that he'd be nervous. He 738 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: seems very at ease, very at HEA's almost like confident, 739 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: you would say, is like his he he communicates and 740 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's wrong because I know those insecurities, 741 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: but like he communicates a thing that's different than how 742 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: he's portrayed. And I wonder if it's just coming from 743 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: a place of humility where he's so humble and who 744 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: he is um that it's almost comes off as confidence 745 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: because he just is he doesn't have a lot to lose, 746 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 1: Like he just believes he's still lucky to be there, 747 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: and he's willing to sit in any conversation anybody's willing 748 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: to have, and he's willing to be the foundational piece 749 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: that tries to keep peace in the house and the 750 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: guy that just laughs at himself and others and a 751 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: healthy and fun way. And because of that, like I 752 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: just I think his maybe insecurity might actually bring a 753 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: level of confidence on the show because he has nothing 754 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: to lose. Yeah, he is a good listener, Like he's 755 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: got those that that thing where you listen before you react. 756 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: It's always yeah, makes a good bachelor, it does. Speaking 757 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: of I don't understand why Clayton's the Bachelor yet, I'll 758 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: tell you that I would agree with you. I would 759 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: agree with you. It doesn't make any sense. I don't 760 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: find him to be unbelievably charming in anyway. I thought 761 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: by the time we got to week four, we would 762 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: be like blown away based on the press and what 763 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: producers were saying about him, will you just be like, 764 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, make him the bachelor. He has to 765 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: be the bachelor. He is and likes. He's not captivating 766 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: to me, it hasn't been there yet, Like there's there's 767 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: a couple of guys including Rodney Um Joe and Nate 768 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: and Brandon Um that like you're like, you know these 769 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: dudes right now when I think of this season or 770 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: who I think about, So what point does Clayton step up? 771 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: And it has to happen? You know, it has to 772 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: happen because there's no way they do what they did 773 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: with Clayton unless there's this clear thing that happens during 774 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: the season where the audience is going to jump on 775 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: board with him because they need a big Bachelor season, 776 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: like they need a lead that people are going to 777 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: jump behind. I know, And I'm like, did they make 778 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: a gigantic mistake? They can't keep making mistakes, Like they 779 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: just can't, Like, at some point, you have to stop 780 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: making mistakes. And and so I do believe he's gonna shine. 781 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: Here's the other part about him, it's like we don't 782 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: like him, like I like him. It's it's I'm not 783 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't dislike him. I don't find nothing. I feel 784 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: so neutral. Yeah neutral. It's just like, yeah, he's a 785 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: good contestant on this season. He's he's he's just there 786 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: and that's fine, and be like, oh, he's probably top 787 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: ten If I didn't know that, he like becomes the Bachelor. Yeah, 788 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: so I assume he goes farther than top ten. But 789 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: at this point I'd be like Tom ten. You know, 790 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: it never really makes a big imprint. I have a feeling, Ashley, 791 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: We'll we'll talk about in a couple of weeks. I 792 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: have a feeling. I don't think anything ever comes to 793 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: the surface. I think he gets let go and we'd go, 794 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: what like that was it? We've done that so many 795 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: times watching the show. We're like, wait, that's that's what 796 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: That's what we're waiting on. And then he does find 797 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: as the Bachelor. But I think their biggest mistake might 798 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: be that, like the audience doesn't have that emotional pull 799 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: towards him, or they're just not completely behind it, because 800 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: I think there's some other guys on the season that 801 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: the audience will be more in love with, um who 802 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: get let go? Yeah. Part of me is also thinking, 803 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: like maybe yeah, maybe he doesn't make a huge splash, 804 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: which is why it was easy to make him the 805 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: bachelor over some other guys that we are going to 806 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: be more invested in for Michelle, like Nate, like a joke, 807 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: like a Brendon. I don't know. Very weird right now, 808 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: But let's go on to the last group dates where 809 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: they do a poetry creation. Very creative, it was great, 810 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 1: it was very cute. Um what's his name is? Chris 811 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: g super star struck to see Rudy Francisco. I wanted 812 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: to see their meeting. We didn't see their meeting, but 813 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: he was like freaking out. And and this is one 814 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: of those moments where Jamie's like ego really got to 815 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: him because of course he didn't use the opportunity to 816 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: tell a personal story. He told like a story of 817 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: somebody else. I think that was kind of a red 818 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: flag to her, because she ends up saying later in 819 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: the episode, she goes, now that I see like red 820 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: flags building. I'm thinking otherwise, And I think that that 821 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: may have been one. Yeah, you know, and it could 822 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: just be that I'm I'm not I'm not on Jamie's 823 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: level of intelligence, but I didn't understand that story at all. 824 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: Like I was so lost. I was trying to watch 825 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: it and like I hear some age some angel telling 826 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: you to get it. Was like yeah, and it was like, dude, 827 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: you're missing it. Like and to me, there's so much 828 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: more creativity intelligence to what these other dudes were doing, 829 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: Like you know, they were speaking like incredible things over 830 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: Michelle in a way that was rhythmatic and beautiful. Um, 831 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: it was really cool to watch. I like this date. 832 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was a great set up for a date. 833 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: I thought it feeled like that Week three group date 834 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: role where you know, we saw Nick sit down and 835 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: get like, um, let the guys open up. And we've 836 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: seen weeks where you know, they maybe they sing a song, 837 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: or they write a song, or they write a piece 838 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: of poetry or whatever. You got to do a romantic 839 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: novel um during that time. This was like that filled 840 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: that role and it was a cool way to do it. 841 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: I liked it. Um. But yeah, he totally flopped, which 842 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: you know, really becomes the storyline now for the rest 843 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: of the episode is Jamie's flop. Brandon gets a group 844 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: date rose Um that night, which was cool. Brand In 845 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: is getting the group day Rose two weeks in a row. Now, Wow, 846 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: you're right, that is unheard of. And yet he's still 847 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: almost like not like somebody when I think of this season, like, 848 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's at the very top. I got 849 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: he would be my top three, But I'm still like 850 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: the Joe's and the Nates of the world still feel like, 851 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, they're above Brandon. Am I wrong in 852 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: that feeling? I don't know what it is about Brandon 853 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: that she's vibing with, particularly. I mean, I mean, he 854 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: seems like a really nice guy and everything, but in 855 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 1: the conversations I feel like they're a little light. Am 856 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: I being you? Tryd of get what I'm saying. Like 857 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: last week he was totally just Mr Swab and he 858 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: got the Rose I think because he was just, you know, 859 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: um like kind of sleeping her off her feet. This 860 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: week he was definitely more vulnerable. But like there this 861 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: might be like an attraction thing, like he's sweet and 862 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: she's attracted to him. She said she felt like she 863 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: was like flying. Oh. She said she felt like she 864 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: went down the hill of a roller coaster, which is like, whoa, 865 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: that's a that's a comparison. That's pretty powerful. But like, 866 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: I still want to see more of them. Definitely somebody 867 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: I need to see her on a one on one 868 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: way fair enough. I also want to see more of Romeo. 869 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: Romeo is me too because I think he's very he's attractive, 870 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: and he is very smart. But also does he have 871 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: an ego thing? Maybe maybe we just don't know about 872 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: it yet, But like every time he's on camera, you're like, 873 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: oh no, he makes sense, he's logical, he's smart, he's 874 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: he's great, and we just don't see anything about him. 875 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: There's like still guys and we say this every year, 876 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: there's still guys that I was looking at during the 877 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: road ceremony. That's like, I have no clue who you are. 878 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: I have not. But but we were intrigued by Romeo 879 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: because we think he might be a full package and 880 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: but we're not getting to know him. I can only 881 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: I can only think that we're not going to get 882 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: a lot of him. Yeah, but he's always on the 883 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: cuff of going cuss up, going home. So yeah, um, 884 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: well so we see then Brandon get the group day 885 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: rows second week in a row. He's safe, and we 886 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: go into the rose ceremony. Um, it is the cocktail 887 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: parties once again canceled. Michelle has done this two weeks 888 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: in a row. Fair enough, I get it. She's probably 889 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: just like I'm over it. I don't this. These cocktail 890 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: parties don't do much for many anyways. Um and Jamie. 891 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: As we've talked about at the beginning of this kind 892 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: of blew up. She sends Jamie home and then Ashley 893 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 1: who else went home this week during the ROAs ceremony. Well, 894 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: we know pizzneur. His name is Peter, by the way, 895 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: I just like to call him. Then we have Um, 896 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: Spencer friends Er who again don't know him, mo Leak 897 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: don't know him, and Brett I don't know him. Yeah. 898 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: So I mean I would say out of all of those, right, 899 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: Peter was a storyline and Spencer had his moments, Um, 900 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: but for the most part, not a shot. No shocking 901 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: exit here. I mean maybe Jamie getting sent home was 902 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: shocking to some, but definitely we all saw it coming 903 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. I'm just glad that 904 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: Michelle did it. When she did it, Um, I thought 905 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: that was a good move on her part to say, hey, 906 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm done with this, get out of here. 907 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: I did too, but then I was like, I don't 908 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: get to hate watch him anymore. Yeah, but that's probably 909 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: good for my soul. Um. Yeah, it's good for me 910 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: as a human, and it's probably good for the podcast 911 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 1: because then we don't get to complain. And really, at 912 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: this point, actually there's nobody left, uh that I'm like 913 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: not neutral on or really high one at this point. 914 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: Like at this point I'm watching this going I like 915 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: these guys or I'm just neutral on them, but there's 916 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: nobody I'm like, oh, yeah, you are you are the worst. 917 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: You gotta get out of here. Well. We see a 918 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: sneak peek, though, and it sounds like things change. Michelle 919 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: says she's getting closer to finding her person, but we 920 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: see some draw that happened um with Chris in the house. 921 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: He kind of calls out the guys in front of everybody. Um, 922 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: I was watching a preview, actually, you said a couple 923 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I do feel like I'm gonna get 924 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: tired of seeing the same lobby of the hotel every 925 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: week for these Rose ceremonies. Okay, wait confused. I thought 926 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: they filmed this season in Minnesota. Same, it's not in Minnesota. 927 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. I remember the spoilers were like, oh, 928 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: they're getting the Minnesota hotel ready. I do believe they 929 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 1: eventually go there, but it looks like the first half 930 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: at least is here in pomp Springs. No clue that happened. 931 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: No clue, but the Rose ceremonies aren't extremely like aesthetically pleasing. 932 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: They're sitting in like a hotel lobby couch kind of 933 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: hanging out. There's like a stairwell behind them. Um, you 934 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: see the elevator the first time, where I'm like the 935 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: bats who doesn't look a whimsical. Now I'm excited for 936 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: the mansion to get used again during Clayton's season, which 937 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: kind of Oh it does get used, okay, the yeah, 938 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: that's right, that's good. I feel like they could have 939 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: done it this year, but who knows, who knows the rules? 940 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: But drama preview what we do see dramas start happening 941 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks. What's the weird thing 942 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: about the preview Rick Like, she's looks like a one 943 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: on one day with Rick, and she's like making out 944 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: with him like she wants to, And I just do 945 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: not vibe that at this point. So I'm interested in 946 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: how it gets, how they get to that point. Yeah, 947 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: there's still a lot to happen here. We're just a 948 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks into Michelle's season of the Bachelorette. Um. 949 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: So far, it's been entertaining. She's been a great lead. Um. 950 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: She is inquisitive, she's curious, she's a lead, she's leading 951 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: the charge. I think she was a good choice. It's there. 952 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: It's very clear on why they chose her and uh, 953 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: and how great she's doing. I want her to end 954 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: up happy. Uh and um, but it's she uh to me, 955 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: Michelle will go down and at this point, like as 956 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: one of those iconic bachelorettes that we think of when 957 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: we think of the Bachelorette, she just she kind of 958 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: x it and she's good at it and she doesn't 959 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: she doesn't take crap from nobody. She teaches these guys 960 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: a lesson. And I hope there's a guy that steps 961 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 1: up to the plate, and I think there will be. 962 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: But um, Ashley, let's take a break. We'll be back 963 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: next week. I might be here. If not, I I'm 964 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: asking for your deepest uh apologies, um, because I am 965 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: going to be on my way to finding my or 966 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: finishing or starting what however you want to say. It 967 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: my love story. I'm gonna be on my way to 968 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: be getting married and I'm super pumped for that. But 969 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: let's take a break here. We still bachelor headlines to 970 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: go through. We'll be back with almost Finis podcast. It's 971 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: time for Bachelor Headlines with our resident expert Ashley I. 972 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: Kennedy breaking down everything going on a Bachelor Nation. It's 973 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: it's a slower week and headlines. Not a lot of 974 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: drama happening. Um. Obviously we have some headlines about Thomas 975 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: Jacobs and beck Is still being together and happy and 976 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: joking with each other. That's always cute, um bachelor lum. Though, 977 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: Gillian Anderson recalls feeling intense humiliation at the hands of 978 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: producers this according to US Weekly, I'm actually kind of 979 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: surprised by this. So she said that on Bachelor in Paradise, 980 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: like a producer said, like, your your butt is kind 981 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: of big, but like not in like an not in 982 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: an offensive way, but like, you know, it's a nice, round, 983 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: juicy butt type thing. So I mean, you know, that 984 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: could be inappropriate or not. It's up to you to decide. 985 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: But um, they said that because of that, things get 986 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: a little cheeky, so we had to blur it out. 987 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: Disney made us. She says that she doesn't believe this. 988 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: She said, instead of doing a little blur they did 989 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,240 Speaker 1: a giant black bar really over exaggerated it. At the time, 990 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: Jillian really leaned into like the black box because she 991 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: was like the first black box, and now they do 992 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: black boxes all the time. Um. And she said that 993 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: like at that point, she she was like experiencing like 994 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: a huge level of humiliation that she thought, like she 995 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: thought she could be prepared for, but she really wasn't. 996 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,439 Speaker 1: She says, I don't think any contestant understands before going 997 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: on how bad it's actually gonna be. She should you 998 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: remember crying over it and her dad being upset over it. Um. 999 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: And she said, at some point afterward, I was able 1000 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: to laugh about it when things started changing. By at 1001 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: that point, like initially I was totally humiliated. I was 1002 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,720 Speaker 1: so new into it, and I was so overwhelmed by 1003 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: the making of posts and the talk and Jimmy Kimmel 1004 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: and the soup and everybody's making fun of it. Um. 1005 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, she goes, my butt was nice. Um. And 1006 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't a scandalous bikini by any means. It was 1007 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: a normal one. I get it. I understand how she'd 1008 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: be upset, especially because she worked so hard for that. 1009 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: But it off you guys show it off well. Um, 1010 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: interesting headline. And obviously she's on the nineteenth season of 1011 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: the Batchelor. So it's been a few years. Um. But 1012 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: the next timeline is this It's about Bachelor live on stage, 1013 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: which I know a lot about. It's back, Um. The 1014 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: tour will start in hosted by Becca Kouffrin. Yes, so 1015 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: I told about Bana Koufren, who was your co host 1016 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,479 Speaker 1: on the road. So now begs the question, where are 1017 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: you on this tour? I got fired? No, Um, No, 1018 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: I did not get fired. They did, ask Um. Obviously 1019 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: the tour was super fun. Uh, and I really love 1020 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: doing it with Becca. But I'm getting married, Um, as 1021 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about, and as you've heard me say probably 1022 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: ten times on this podcast. UM, I'm also I'm going 1023 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: on my dream trip, my bucket list trip with Jessica 1024 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 1: and my parents to Israel in March of next year. Um. 1025 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna be there for over ten days, and it's 1026 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 1: just we've all planned it it's been in the works 1027 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: for months, and I it actually is. The trip starts 1028 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: UH during the first week of tour, so as they're 1029 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: doing like prep for tour, and then goes through like 1030 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: the first full week of the tour into the next 1031 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: and I would probably have to come back pack my bags, 1032 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: jump right back out and go on a bus. And 1033 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 1: I was willing to do that, and we all decided 1034 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: that it probably it was not the best idea for 1035 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: me UM and the tour to kind of have me 1036 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: trying to step in and learn it as I hosted it. 1037 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 1: And so as a result, I plan on stopping in 1038 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: UM at a random places and probably um jumping out 1039 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: on stage and trying to support Becca. But this is 1040 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: Becca's show now, UM, and she's gonna be hitting the road, 1041 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for She's gonna do great UM, but 1042 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: I do feel like it could be a little lonely, 1043 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: like when you step out on stage in a random 1044 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: city that you know three people show up too. In 1045 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: a five I was in person auditorium and you're like, 1046 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: I can't laugh at this with anybody, or I can't 1047 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: even like get pumped with this with anybody. Like she's 1048 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: gonna be like, it's gonna be really hard to host 1049 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: that live show solo. Yeah, I think it won't be easy, 1050 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 1: but I mean I think she can do. I think 1051 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: she'll do I know she'll she can do it. I 1052 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: s'll do great at it. Um. But there is that 1053 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: level of like camaraderie when you're out on stage with 1054 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: somebody else where you're like, hey, maybe tonight we have 1055 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: ten thousand people in the audience and it's packed sold out, 1056 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: and then tomorrow we're gonna show up to a town 1057 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna come because the small town, it's on 1058 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: a weird night. Those are when it's gonna get hard, um, 1059 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: because I just think you get down and you have 1060 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: to keep your energy up every night. Now solo one 1061 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,919 Speaker 1: can't pick up the other. So she's hitting the road 1062 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: and you should check them out the tour start. It's 1063 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: worth going to see. It's fun, it's uh, it's entertaining, 1064 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: it's it's funny to laugh at. Obviously, the show will 1065 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: look different than the one I was a part of. 1066 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know the format of this show. They're changing 1067 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: things up a bit where I don't think it's gonna 1068 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: be a local Bachelor with local bachelorettes. I think it's 1069 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna be like a contestants more operating on stage. I 1070 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: don't know fully what that looks like. But if you are, 1071 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: if you enjoy Bachelor Nation and you want to have 1072 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: a night out with some friends, this is a place 1073 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: to go hang out and watch. Um they're hitting the 1074 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: road again, I won't be there. So so Ben was 1075 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't just the trip. It was also the fact that, 1076 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: like you just wanted to enjoy married life at home. Yes, yeah, 1077 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like two months after getting married, 1078 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm now gone and with covid um spouses are gonna 1079 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: be able to go on the bus bus Yeah. So 1080 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean for then, like I don't know, forty days straight, 1081 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: i'd be away hitting the road and doing this like 1082 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: it just to me. I wanted to enjoy these few 1083 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,879 Speaker 1: months with Jess as a married couple, and like I said, 1084 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to show up. Maybe I will, Um, I 1085 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: don't know yet, but it is a big deal in 1086 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: my life. This is a huge part of my life. 1087 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was a big source of income and 1088 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: then also just like fun to meet all all the 1089 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: random people. Um. So it is sad and I am 1090 00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: sad about I saw the announcement, I was like, dang, 1091 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, um, but you know, life moves on. I've 1092 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: got coffee to sell, I've got I've got a lot 1093 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: of coffee to hustle here. That makes sense. I wonder 1094 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: why they didn't pick another co host, Rebecca. I wonder 1095 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 1: why too. Maybe they will. We'll see how it starts. Um, 1096 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: but she's gonna do great. I do want to say that. Well, uh, 1097 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: here's the thing um. Final headline Batchettes. Katie Thurston tears 1098 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: up while venting about Blake Moyne's break up Disaccording to 1099 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: e So, she got on Instagram live and she captioned 1100 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: it just venting. She says, obviously a public relationship ending 1101 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: is really sty It's a thing to navigate. But you 1102 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: guys have been kind and supportive and I just want 1103 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: to say thank you for being that way to me 1104 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: into Blake and just being understanding. She said that she 1105 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: felt like people hold too much way to things that 1106 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: don't matter and stress the importance of pursuing happiness. She 1107 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: said that sometimes a couple stay in relationships because they 1108 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: put so much time, have an effort into them, um, 1109 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: and they just keep waiting for new results, hoping things 1110 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: will change once they get married or have kids. She said, 1111 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: while the split was difficult and the public scrutiny doesn't help, 1112 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: it's a tough thing to navigate because of course people 1113 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: question the authenticity of the love in the relationship. And 1114 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: she said for those people passing judgment, like I can 1115 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: only hope to be so lucky as you to find 1116 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: you're forever love on the first time. You know, But 1117 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: ending a relationship isn't something new, UM, Ending an engagement 1118 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: isn't something new. Divorce is not something new. And I 1119 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: think Blake and I were very fortunate enough to recognize 1120 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: things early and they made the right decision for them. 1121 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: She says, it doesn't come with its own challenges. We're 1122 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: still processing a lot lots of waves of emotion. Well, Uh, 1123 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: breakups are tough, especially in the public eye, worse than 1124 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: the best two of them as they move forward. We 1125 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: mean it, It sucks, and there is criticism, there's judgment. 1126 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: There's words in around UM. And if you want more 1127 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: inside of that, just feel free to pick up my 1128 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: book Alone in Plain Sight, anywhere you can buy a book. Hey, Ashley, 1129 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: what a great episode. UM. I hope to be back 1130 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: next week. If I'm not, uh, hold down the fort 1131 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: for us until I get back. And if you are, 1132 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: I will come with more wedding questions perfect unlike your predictions. 1133 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I like that, so we can play them 1134 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 1: back and they'll be silly. I like the backless uh 1135 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: no shoulder dress idea. Um, you're the best. Dash Well, Hey, 1136 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. Uh in with that, I've 1137 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: been been, I've been Ashley, thanks for listening, guys by 1138 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 1139 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts