Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and he I'm strong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: A second grade student called nine to one one to
Speaker 3: report a shooting had occurred at school. I'm gonna let that,
Speaker 3: so can for a minute the second grade.
Speaker 1: Student, all right, we're not actually going to talk about
Speaker 1: the school shooting, or at least I'm not actually going
Speaker 1: to talk about school shooting. I've got some media comments though.
Speaker 1: First of all, I was listening to a podcast the
Speaker 1: other day and some woman from the Washington Post, who's
Speaker 1: a conservative for the Washington Post, was actually talking about
Speaker 1: She said, I'd before all my talking about these shootings
Speaker 1: at all. The guy who shot the CEO of United Harald,
Speaker 1: the carriage school shot. Just let's just not do the stories.
Speaker 1: Let's just not do them at all.
Speaker 2: She said.
Speaker 1: I know that's crazy, and it has the downside. Well,
Speaker 1: let's just not give these people any air. There's clearly
Speaker 1: a contagion effect, and I have agreed with that for
Speaker 1: a very long time. But I keep looking up at
Speaker 1: the TV and seeing this tiny little girl.
Speaker 2: Probably the second grader being interviewed.
Speaker 1: Mom, Dad, You know it's off limits for a parent
Speaker 1: to criticize another parent's parenting.
Speaker 2: Don't freaking have your eight year old talking to the brass.
Speaker 4: They're not here tout the most traumatic thing that will
Speaker 4: ever happen in their lives over and over and over again.
Speaker 4: That's insane. I'll criticize their parenting. What is the matter
Speaker 4: with you? Get that girl home and away from the cameras.
Speaker 1: Now, well, I could cut it off at don't let
Speaker 1: your eight year old talk to the media without even
Speaker 1: anything after that. I don't care what the topic is.
Speaker 1: They're not there to make your kids life better, trust me.
Speaker 1: But on this topic, especially good lord, who's sticking a
Speaker 1: microphone in this little kid's face?
Speaker 4: If the piglet winds are riven at the Wisconsin State Fair,
Speaker 4: then they can.
Speaker 2: Talk to the media. That really bothers me. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: and wise, But I got to ask this.
Speaker 1: This is a media thing, not a school shooting thing
Speaker 1: or shooting thing at all. As I figure out how
Speaker 1: to take in media in the modern world, I've been
Speaker 1: saying for a long time now that Twitter is like
Speaker 1: the best way to get information on a big media story.
Speaker 2: When it happens. Pick one, like when Trump was shot.
Speaker 1: I was getting all kinds of information when Trump was
Speaker 1: shot an hour before the New York Times would have it,
Speaker 1: or CBS News or whatever. But you do have to
Speaker 1: wait through a lot of stuff that's not true. You
Speaker 1: have to have a.
Speaker 2: Talent for it.
Speaker 1: Stuff that's in that doesn't seem true, or that's too
Speaker 1: crazy to be true, or I'll have to see that
Speaker 1: confirmed or something like that. As opposed to just running
Speaker 1: with everything you come across. Is if it's clearly true
Speaker 1: because somebody tweeted it was the shooter trans.
Speaker 4: I've come across no information that that is true.
Speaker 2: I would agree at this point as yet.
Speaker 1: But yesterday when I jumped on Twitter, it was just
Speaker 1: full of fake pictures, real pictures, fake Facebook pages, all
Speaker 1: kinds of different stuff trying to make the point that
Speaker 1: the shooter was trans. How do we is this just
Speaker 1: going to be the rest of our lives. You've got
Speaker 1: a crowd out there that wanted the shooter to be trans.
Speaker 1: You got a crowd out there that wants the shooter
Speaker 1: to be a Trump supporter. You got a crowd obviously
Speaker 1: that wants the shooter to be black. Shooting white people,
Speaker 1: white shooting black people, all the different things and the
Speaker 1: amount of time they put into faking up a profile,
Speaker 1: faking up a Facebook page, faking up a Twitter account,
Speaker 1: faking up an email, faking up pictures, faking up audio
Speaker 1: I mean including audio AI stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, who does.
Speaker 1: This for one thing? Outside of China, Russia and North
Speaker 1: Korean Iran? But are there are these? Are some of
Speaker 1: you out there? You get a kick out of this,
Speaker 1: like making up a profile for a fake person just
Speaker 1: to what cause problems?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a combination of you know, fooling
Speaker 4: some of the people some of the time for political
Speaker 4: purposes to rally people to your cause. And if I
Speaker 4: you know, happy to agree with you, I certainly don't
Speaker 4: agree with your methods. And the other part of it
Speaker 4: is just klickonomics, just wanting to be the popular panderer.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell my followers exactly what they want to hear,
Speaker 4: and I'll send it along to their friends who will
Speaker 4: be gratified by it too, and I'll get more followers,
Speaker 4: be more popular, maybe make a few bucks, or maybe
Speaker 4: just be a big wheel.
Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't do it, and I should
Speaker 1: have done as I was going through this stuff is
Speaker 1: clicked on the person that was tweeting it out and
Speaker 1: then gone to their home Twitter feed to see because
Speaker 1: sometimes it's you know, they got one follower and they've
Speaker 1: been online for a month, that's when you know it's
Speaker 1: a Russian bot or a Chinese bot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And even if it's a real person, if they got
Speaker 1: like two followers, why is anybody listening to them? But
Speaker 1: it somehow gets into the feed the stream. I don't
Speaker 1: know what we do.
Speaker 2: About that phenomenon other than get better in this weight.
Speaker 1: Before anybody draws any conclusions, I would say, as I've
Speaker 1: said for many, many years, if your concern is, for instance,
Speaker 1: I don't know the way they covered up that one
Speaker 1: trans shooter, which the shooter actually was trans, and I
Speaker 1: don't remember which one that was.
Speaker 4: I was just going to bring that whole thing up. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: but they covered that.
Speaker 2: Up more or less. I mean, they didn't soft pedal,
Speaker 2: did it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly a cover up, but it was definitely
Speaker 1: soft pedal, like, we're not putting the story out there.
Speaker 1: If that bothered you, getting out a fake trans shooter
Speaker 1: doesn't help your cause. I think it hurts your cause.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a great like coda to what
Speaker 4: I was going to say, which is the Nashville Christian
Speaker 4: School shooter, who was a female, was quote unquote transgender,
Speaker 4: meaning confused and led down the path of radical gender
Speaker 4: theory by various mentorists discussing it's sick, it's terrible taking
Speaker 4: a confused adolescent and manipulating them for your purposes. She
Speaker 4: was particularly angry at the Christian school because generally speaking,
Speaker 4: the more religious people are, the less likely they are
Speaker 4: to be into the whole neo Marxist gender bending madness stuff,
Speaker 4: and so she decided to punish Christians for not supporting
Speaker 4: her in her utterly futile quest to be happier by
Speaker 4: changing into a dude. That was the story. It's troubling.
Speaker 4: She had a manifesto that the media had zero interest in.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 4: Every killer's manifesto, with every cause imaginable, has been absolute.
Speaker 4: Just honey for a bear, accept that manifesto?
Speaker 2: So odd? That is all true.
Speaker 4: It's no less true if this chick was just an
Speaker 4: angry chick. It's no more true if this chick was
Speaker 4: another one of them. I get that, you know, more
Speaker 4: evidence builds the case, but yeah, don't you don't need
Speaker 4: to go there, have confidence in your beliefs and then
Speaker 4: wait for the facts to come in. But I don't,
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like a man standing on the
Speaker 4: beach shouting at the tide not to come in. It's
Speaker 4: just the new environment we all live in, and we
Speaker 4: have to be better at processing it or it will
Speaker 4: tear us apart and ruin the empire.
Speaker 1: I don't know now, I don't exactly know how, like
Speaker 1: the community notes work on Twitter. But the first tweet
Speaker 1: I saw claiming this shooter was trans and it had
Speaker 1: a couple of it's had the picture when he was
Speaker 1: a boy and now as a girl. The community notes
Speaker 1: on Twitter were, this is not real, this is actually
Speaker 1: this is who this actually is, So this isn't real.
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, cool, But then I saw this same
Speaker 1: tweet more or less, you know, half a page down
Speaker 1: that didn't have the community notes on it. So I
Speaker 1: don't know how that whole algorithm works or not yet anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Elon can get better at that or whatever, but
Speaker 1: that's troubling.
Speaker 2: That's troubling. There wasn't advantage.
Speaker 4: Community notes are actual human beings like me. I've done
Speaker 4: some who take a minute to say, hey, this is
Speaker 4: your research it and you put the note there and
Speaker 4: then people voted uppertown or but there's no and it
Speaker 4: becomes a note.
Speaker 1: But apparently there's no way for that community note because
Speaker 1: you caught that one tweet for it to end up
Speaker 1: on a different tweet with exactly the same message.
Speaker 4: Apparently not point about the algorithm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an advantage when there was a gatekeeper,
Speaker 1: like it was the CBS Evening News in New York
Speaker 1: Times or whoever. As much as I hated their left
Speaker 1: leaning this and that, there was some advantage when there
Speaker 1: were some gatekeepers that wouldn't run with complete crap, you know,
Speaker 1: moments after something happened and have everybody an uproar order
Speaker 1: something that wasn't true.
Speaker 4: Well right, because you know it's the world is very
Speaker 4: flat now and your ability to have a platform depends
Speaker 4: on nothing but having a social media account. Now you
Speaker 4: have to be elevated by a certain level of popularity
Speaker 4: for many people to see your takes. But the problem
Speaker 4: is the process of elevating people might just be who
Speaker 4: panders the most successfully, who has the most extreme opinions.
Speaker 4: You know, just being a bomb chucking lunatic wouldn't get
Speaker 4: you a gig on the CBS Evening News. You have
Speaker 4: to be good at what you did and reliable and
Speaker 4: check your sources and the rest of it. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: leaned left, but they're pretty good journalists. And so this
Speaker 4: new world where you can get elevated for the worst
Speaker 4: of reasons, it's going to be challenging to navigate down down. Say,
Speaker 4: I don't know if we can. Honestly, I'm a wait
Speaker 4: and see guy on all of this stuff. You have
Speaker 4: societies like Russia in particular, that nobody believes anything and
Speaker 4: everybody he walks around bitterly cynical and borderline hopeless. Which, sorry,
Speaker 4: it's the Christmas season. Why am I bringing you down?
Speaker 4: Because I'm a realist.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been taking in some of the stuff from
Speaker 1: Syrians who had such a limited view of what was
Speaker 1: going on in the world because of the assad's ability
Speaker 1: to control information.
Speaker 4: Can I confess something awful? I'm not a Catholic man.
Speaker 4: I've never been to confession, partly because there's so many sins.
Speaker 4: I mean, the priest would finally throw me out. Dude,
Speaker 4: there are people in line.
Speaker 2: Right, my family's expecting me at home. I guess, I
Speaker 2: guess that wouldn't be the guess with it. You've made
Speaker 2: it through the felonies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the felonies, the perversities. You die.
Speaker 2: I'm thrown up twice. That's enough.
Speaker 4: Come back next week. Tell me more anyway, and try
Speaker 4: thing between now and next week. All right, this makes
Speaker 4: me a bad person.
Speaker 2: When Seeing had.
Speaker 4: Their dramatic live television moment and freed that poor beleaguered prisoner,
Speaker 4: I was thinking at the time, it's been like a week.
Speaker 2: Why is this guy still locked in a room? This
Speaker 2: seems odd to me.
Speaker 4: There's something odd going on here. And then it turns
Speaker 4: out he was in there because he was a brutal
Speaker 4: torturer and the other inmates have had thrown him in
Speaker 4: there or what have you.
Speaker 2: And then you.
Speaker 4: Know, and he came out and faked being sensitive to delight.
Speaker 4: But he was like pudgy and well, really healthy looking
Speaker 4: and all. The fact that CNN got duped makes me happy.
Speaker 2: Where's that guy? Now?
Speaker 1: Did he disappear back out into the public and he's
Speaker 1: going to be able to get away?
Speaker 2: I'll bet he did. I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I read the PostScript to that that the new authorities
Speaker 4: had done something or other. But I don't know, because
Speaker 4: he should be torn on limb for limb or set
Speaker 4: on fire or something by the rebels. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: because he would torture people for politics, then he just
Speaker 4: torture them for and only stop if your family paid
Speaker 4: him off. I mean, yeah, he had a well, there
Speaker 4: isn't a fate awful enough for him, although.
Speaker 1: Locking him in there is wouldn't a bad idea, and
Speaker 1: just dying of thirst and the hunger and being alone
Speaker 1: in there is not awesome either, So they didn't have
Speaker 1: a bad plan because I'm surprised they didn't beat him
Speaker 1: to death when they had the chance, right for they
Speaker 1: were in a hurry to get out of there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, nice job seeing and very dramatic party, had no viewers. Hey,
Speaker 4: I hate to take that shot because Clariss Ward's a
Speaker 4: great report. Yeah, and yeah, it's not her fault out
Speaker 4: you know, now, unfortunate series of events that made me happy,
Speaker 4: which makes me a bad person, which will be part
Speaker 4: of your confession, your very very long list as previously referenced. Right,
Speaker 4: we got more from the Trump press conference.
Speaker 1: Men the city Council meeting in Chicago got crazy yesterday
Speaker 1: as people are very angry with how much money the
Speaker 1: mayor is spending on illegals.
Speaker 2: Got a whole bunch of other stuff to talk about.
Speaker 2: I hope you can stay here.
Speaker 1: Jesus Pabla, Harry Jet them mixed, all those guys, the
Speaker 1: neo crooners. Yeah, cool stuff like this.
Speaker 2: A little Christmas decorating today.
Speaker 1: So before we get to the new latest news of
Speaker 1: the day on the drones, we got the late night
Speaker 1: comics of course, made some jokes about the drones last night,
Speaker 1: so we thought we could.
Speaker 2: Have a late night joke off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all three of them are going to take a shot. Well,
Speaker 4: three of them are going to take shot. We'll rank
Speaker 4: each joke and and grade it with a letter grade.
Speaker 4: The bottom grade getter is banned from comedy for life.
Speaker 4: Let's hear of Michael.
Speaker 5: Well, guys, Christmas is just nine days away, and everyone's
Speaker 5: in the spirit. Tonight I was admiring all the beautiful lights,
Speaker 5: and then I realized that there was.
Speaker 2: Just the drones over New Jersey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's talking about these mysterious drones that keep appearing
Speaker 5: over New Jersey. Nobody knows where they come from or
Speaker 5: why they exist. It's basically air crypto. Everything annoyed about
Speaker 5: the drones right now. The Chinese by balloons are like staying.
Speaker 2: Your lane, girl, staying in your life.
Speaker 6: Because as of today, the drone armada has also been
Speaker 6: spotted in New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Ohio, which
Speaker 6: can mean only one thing. The drones are visiting colleges. Remember, drones,
Speaker 6: don't worry about going to the best school. Go to
Speaker 6: the school where you can be your best self.
Speaker 2: The drones flying over in New Jersey.
Speaker 6: I mean, if they were still making new Sopranos episodes,
Speaker 6: Tony would definitely be flying drones.
Speaker 2: WHOA still check this out. You can take pictures of
Speaker 2: your neighbor's house. I don't know anything about no drones.
Speaker 2: D Maybe we had drones, we wouldn't have lost it
Speaker 2: rushing in the woods. Wow, didn't go great. I feel
Speaker 2: great about it. That was a stretch. Wow.
Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, this is uh. We're going into the fine
Speaker 4: print of the grading system here. Fellon with a B
Speaker 4: plus for good naturedness, Colbert with a B. It was
Speaker 4: all right, Myers with an A, but a full grade
Speaker 4: deduction for you've got to be a huge soprance.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And the little data there, that's so the ashshale news
Speaker 1: on the drones. Senator Doug Mastriano, who is the other
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Senator who doesn't get any attention because his cohart
Speaker 1: is Fetterman.
Speaker 4: Throw on the hoodie, Doug, or a tank top or something.
Speaker 4: You gotta go with, novelty garb these you gotta have
Speaker 4: a brand.
Speaker 1: This is a sitting US senator where they're now seeing drones.
Speaker 1: He said, it's inconceivable that the federal government has no
Speaker 1: answers nor has taken any action to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of the unidentified drones. The fecklands specklessness of this
Speaker 1: administration was on display last year when a Chinese surveillance
Speaker 1: balloon was allowed to fly over the entire United States.
Speaker 1: Such should be viewed as a threat to our nation
Speaker 1: and citizens, and action.
Speaker 2: Is long overdue. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So that's a sitting US senator who has no answers.
Speaker 1: While just a little bit ago er. This morning, a
Speaker 1: number of federal agencies signed onto a letter together saying
Speaker 1: there is no threat to the public from the drones,
Speaker 1: but they're still saying they don't have any answers. If
Speaker 1: they would come out and say, we know what they are,
Speaker 1: trust us, there's no threat. But they're saying we don't
Speaker 1: know what they are and there's no threat, which doesn't
Speaker 1: fit together as a thought correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's universally recognized. I think America
Speaker 4: is developing a sense of people know what's happening, just
Speaker 4: go ahead and tell us, which it's a tough one.
Speaker 4: It depends on the nature of the what they're doing
Speaker 4: in whites classified, and it could be they just can't
Speaker 4: find a way to tell.
Speaker 2: Us part of it. I hope that's it.
Speaker 4: I hope it's that we're on such the cutting edge
Speaker 4: of drone defenses and drone warfare that it's just too
Speaker 4: advanced to share with the people and not just buy
Speaker 4: and style and competence.
Speaker 1: They can't even share it with us senators though apparently.
Speaker 4: Well you can't trust senators, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: The curious case of Caitlan Clark coming up next to
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7: Jimangioni retained a new high powered former Manhattan prosecutor and
Speaker 7: a defense fund set up for the suspect reached one
Speaker 7: hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, though it's unclear if his
Speaker 7: defense team will accept that money.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear it's only one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. As a guy who's had a lot of
Speaker 1: legal bills in the last couple of years, that ain't much.
Speaker 2: It won't last long.
Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, brother, So I want to talk about
Speaker 4: the Caitlin Clark situation and how it is just such
Speaker 4: a beautiful illustration of the stupidity, the awfulness, and the
Speaker 4: utter destructiveness of racialism which has had its moment in
Speaker 4: the country. You know, thanks to Derek chauven and George
Speaker 4: Floyd and the rest of it, nobody could speak out
Speaker 4: against its excesses.
Speaker 2: For a little while.
Speaker 4: And the whole everything's about race and should be out
Speaker 4: race and everything should be viewed through the lens of
Speaker 4: race at bubba idea, which is insidious, horrible, Unamerican.
Speaker 1: Well, remember sudden that rule of the day, Remember that
Speaker 1: polling we had last week where every group wants a
Speaker 1: color blind society, like everybody, Republicans, Democrats, old, young, white,
Speaker 1: only only black people slightly wanted a race focused.
Speaker 4: Society right, and yet I hear the listeners shouting hit
Speaker 4: the speaker right now. I had to sit through six
Speaker 4: hours of white people are bad training to keep my job,
Speaker 4: to keep my professorship, you know, to teach, to keep
Speaker 4: my teaching gig, and the rest of it, just even
Speaker 4: though virtually nobody is in favor of this madness. But
Speaker 4: so anyway, if you're familiar with the story, I'll hit
Speaker 4: the basics of it. Caitlin Clark was on the cover
Speaker 4: of Time website used to be a magazine honoring her
Speaker 4: as the athlete of the year, and indeed the young
Speaker 4: woman who it was pointed out elsewhere. And forgive me
Speaker 4: if this isn't exactly right, but she was All American
Speaker 4: College several times, brought her team to the National Championship
Speaker 4: Game two consecutive years, reinvented the women's game, electrified the
Speaker 4: college audiences.
Speaker 1: All time leading scorer, and then the crowds she's drawn
Speaker 1: in the WNBA like NBA sized crowds. It's been amazing,
Speaker 1: raining shots down from where they've never been taken before.
Speaker 1: A silky passer in the style of Larry Bird. Just
Speaker 1: a really exciting player happens to be a white woman
Speaker 1: playing in the WNBA, which is a predominantly black league
Speaker 1: like the NBA itself, and the reaction to Caitlin Clark's
Speaker 1: success and what it's done for the WNBA has been
Speaker 1: incredibly strange and troubling.
Speaker 2: They are all sorts of players.
Speaker 4: I've got all sorts of quotes here about Ajah Wilson
Speaker 4: of the Las Vegas Aces, the league's MVP, said it's
Speaker 4: straight out Clark's race was a huge reason for her popularity. Quote,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what we do, as black women were
Speaker 4: still going to be swept underneath the rug. That's why
Speaker 4: it boils my blood when people say it's not about race,
Speaker 4: because it was.
Speaker 2: You have team owners.
Speaker 4: Shila Johnson, the black owner of the Washington Mystics, echoed Wilson,
Speaker 4: telling CNN the only reason Clark was getting any claim
Speaker 4: was because she was white. I feel really bad because
Speaker 4: I've seen so many players of color that are equally
Speaker 4: as talented never got the recognition that they should have.
Speaker 4: Why couldn't they put the whole WNBA on the cover
Speaker 4: and say the WNBA is the League of the Year.
Speaker 4: People commented that thirty one percent of her team's attendance
Speaker 4: for the entire season came from the two games they
Speaker 4: played against Caitlin Clark's Indiana Fever.
Speaker 2: Wow. Almost a third Wow.
Speaker 1: I would like to run in a parallel universe, same
Speaker 1: status with a black girl from Iowa or from wherever,
Speaker 1: exact same status, all through college, all through pros.
Speaker 4: And see what the reaction would be. Well, that's a
Speaker 4: great thought. And here's my analysis of that experiment. In
Speaker 4: a world where you got white kids all over the
Speaker 4: place idolizing black NFL players and black NBA players, if
Speaker 4: it turned out that for whatever reason, people can relate
Speaker 4: more and root more to people for people who look
Speaker 4: like them, that just is what it is.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Now?
Speaker 4: Are you going to and I'm going to get to
Speaker 4: a part that's just so idiotic and suicidal. If that's
Speaker 4: the case, how about you embrace the incredible exciting fund
Speaker 4: to watch Caitlyn Clark because she has lifted all boats.
Speaker 4: All the salaries are going up, all the attendance is
Speaker 4: going up, all the attention's going up. If, for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: a country that's more white than black roots more for
Speaker 4: this super exciting white player, use her a quote unquote
Speaker 4: as a business and say Hey, how about this passing
Speaker 4: from this gal and people will see her and say, wow,
Speaker 4: what a ballplayer.
Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what Charles Barkley said. He said, the
Speaker 1: WNBA has mishandled this so badly. It's the greatest gift
Speaker 1: that's ever happened to them since the league started.
Speaker 2: And they're screwed it up. Oh yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: They're either attacking her or belly aching that it's happening
Speaker 4: or grumbling that it shouldn't be happening their own league.
Speaker 2: It's suicidal. And look, I'm a football fan.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of football fans of a bunch
Speaker 4: of different teams, and a number of the teams have
Speaker 4: just absolutely outstanding black quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: And here eat a single one of them.
Speaker 4: Who roots less for that quarterback because he's darker of skin.
Speaker 2: This is not the way sports fans work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't doubt that Kaitlin Clark gets more attention
Speaker 1: because she's white in a predominantly black sport.
Speaker 4: But straight might have something to do with it too, honestly,
Speaker 4: because the vast majority of people are straight.
Speaker 1: But I don't think the skin color plays as big
Speaker 1: a role as a lot of people are claiming.
Speaker 2: I mean, because.
Speaker 1: She she did score more points than anybody ever has
Speaker 1: in women's or men's college basketball history. She's the all
Speaker 1: time leading scorer for men and women, Right, I mean
Speaker 1: that's I I've seeing lots of black players every bit
Speaker 1: as talented, as productive, as exciting to watch.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Right.
Speaker 4: And again, even if you're right, what does that tell you?
Speaker 4: And this is a beautiful example of progressivism? The answer,
Speaker 4: like that that owner of the Washington Mystics would give you,
Speaker 4: is well, we need to change humanity.
Speaker 2: We need to change human names.
Speaker 4: Sure, we need to fundamentally reorder human psychees. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: good luck with that, or just market Caitlin Clark is
Speaker 4: one of a bunch of great players, and watch your
Speaker 4: league grow. Anyway, So perhaps you heard about this which
Speaker 4: which happened first. I guess Caitlyn Clark's interview with Maria
Speaker 4: Taylor happened first. Michael, go ahead and play clip sixteen.
Speaker 4: Here's where it gets a little twisted. Caitlin Clarks is
Speaker 4: a young woman fresh out at college working in the WNBA,
Speaker 4: and the people around her are saying, you should have
Speaker 4: white guilt because you have unfairly exploited your skin color.
Speaker 4: And here's how the conversation went.
Speaker 8: And I feel like you have had to answer more
Speaker 8: questions than anybody about the intersectionality of race and gender
Speaker 8: and sexuality in sport because of just who you are,
Speaker 8: and you represent the growth of this thing. And even today,
Speaker 8: early today Meg and Kelly, she was saying that you were.
Speaker 2: Apologizing for your white privilege.
Speaker 8: And the fact that you wanted to uplift black female
Speaker 8: athletes and make sure that they were getting the shine
Speaker 8: kind of like your pioneers were getting the shine that
Speaker 8: they deserved. And I just want to know how you
Speaker 8: feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms
Speaker 8: when you have to deal with something that it's really
Speaker 8: not your problem, Like I feel like it's them looking
Speaker 8: in a mirror a little bit, but it still comes
Speaker 8: down on your shoulders. I feel like I always have
Speaker 8: had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened
Speaker 8: in my life, whether that's been good, whether that's been bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not that clip. I thought it was. I'm
Speaker 4: sorry when this happens, I'd misread the description. We have
Speaker 4: a clip not long ago, a few days ago, of
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark talking about how you know her she feels
Speaker 4: her white privilege and is aware of it and the
Speaker 4: rest of it.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry for the confusion, but.
Speaker 1: To what she just said there, I perfectly read that
Speaker 1: was a long.
Speaker 2: Speech by the interviewer. What the hell was that?
Speaker 1: But a perfectly reasonable answer to any of this stuff
Speaker 1: as a twenty two year old who, I guarantee when
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark gets up in the morning, the thing she's
Speaker 1: thinking about the most is how do I make my
Speaker 1: upper body stronger to compete in the league and how
Speaker 1: do I increase my blah blah blah about playing That's
Speaker 1: what's mostly on her mind.
Speaker 2: But I'd be perfectly reasonable to.
Speaker 1: Say I never think about any of this stuff at
Speaker 1: all ever in my life.
Speaker 2: Is the answer. I think about basketball ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: of the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that would be a good thing to say.
Speaker 4: And I wish we had the original clip. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna hate on Kate Len Clark. She's
Speaker 4: she's a woman child, she's a kid fresh out of college. Yes,
Speaker 4: she has been indoctrinated, and that's that's fine. She'll real
Speaker 4: life will teach her reality soon enough. I would think
Speaker 4: and a lot of people commented on her bending the
Speaker 4: knee to the racial grievance industry, and as opposed she did.
Speaker 1: So she's supposed to take on your fight, my fight,
Speaker 1: whatever against this white privilege nonsense, which I do think
Speaker 1: is nonsense. But she's supposed to do that as a
Speaker 1: basketball player. That make her life fun. Wouldn't that be
Speaker 1: fun to end up being the I'm gonna stand up
Speaker 1: against white privileged person.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That'll be a good time in my twenties. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask her to do that in a locker.
Speaker 4: Room full of young women's, many of whom of color,
Speaker 4: who believe this stuff. So yeah, we can't ask that
Speaker 4: of her. Go play exciting baseball or basketball rather, and
Speaker 4: we'll deal with the rest of it. I read a
Speaker 4: great story this is a little sports team, but about
Speaker 4: when Larry Bird came into the league, a predominantly black
Speaker 4: league even then, and how there's a little bit of oh,
Speaker 4: the white boys getting all the attention, and whether through
Speaker 4: unbelievable play or if somebody wanted to throw a punch,
Speaker 4: he'd throw on right back. The respect came and it
Speaker 4: quickly became not about race at all. And you know,
Speaker 4: I would love to see a little more of that here,
Speaker 4: but it's a different time, in a different situation, WNBA,
Speaker 4: and partly because women are different than men. But this
Speaker 4: is maybe the first and only time I've ever quoted
Speaker 4: Lebron James in my life, and he tweeted this out
Speaker 4: a couple of months ago. If you don't rock with
Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark and her game, you're just a flat out hater.
Speaker 2: But these people do hate. They are haters. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this too real quickly, Rich,
Speaker 2: How is your daughter? Just thinking? Is myself?
Speaker 1: If Kaitlyn Clark was your daughter, what would you have
Speaker 1: told her before she got into all this mess? I
Speaker 1: think I'd have gone with the All I think about
Speaker 1: is basketball. I don't think about any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: I would say, take care of business. You will, you
Speaker 1: have enough on your plate. You have a big enough
Speaker 1: challenge in front of you. Don't try to fix the world.
Speaker 2: You'd have to.
Speaker 1: You'd have to like practice though, because people are gonna
Speaker 1: would try to shame her. They already are try to
Speaker 1: sham her into having answer. Oh yeah, you owe it
Speaker 1: to the pioneers of the league. I don't you don't
Speaker 1: owe it to anybody to do anything other didn't show
Speaker 1: up and play as hard as I can. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: and that's it's a misunderstanding of the free market and
Speaker 1: how beautiful it is and how well it works, and
Speaker 1: how it eliminates racism. And Milton Friedman wrote some great
Speaker 1: stuff about this, and I can't remember I've seen some
Speaker 1: other stuff. But since you're the entire question is what
Speaker 1: is the best interaction. What is the best transaction I
Speaker 1: can have? If the best transaction is with somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't look like me, if I miss out on that,
Speaker 1: I lose.
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot.
Speaker 4: Whereas the uh A free economy is how people get
Speaker 4: to know each other and cast aside their preconceptions. Let
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark play, let her play hard, let her play
Speaker 4: against black people or whatever and white people, and and just.
Speaker 2: Let it play out.
Speaker 4: Quit trying to come up with a like an action
Speaker 4: plan to manage the WNBA and manage the economy and
Speaker 4: manage everybody's interactions at work, for instance. Now, just just
Speaker 4: let us go about our business. It's going to be fine.
Speaker 4: I wanted to get into some of the idiotic reactions
Speaker 4: to the Daniel penny verdict.
Speaker 2: We can hit that another time.
Speaker 4: But anybody who's trying to make it all about race
Speaker 4: is a race hustler in a liar.
Speaker 2: It's not race hustlers and liars everywhere. He's gonna keep fighting.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm flying over Christmas break and Southwest Airlines has
Speaker 1: gotten a rid of their seating thing that everybody liked
Speaker 1: for so long. There's now a signed seating which ends
Speaker 1: any advantage to being a list. It looks like to
Speaker 1: me as far as I can tell. But you you're
Speaker 1: gonna want to know about this if you fly Southwest
Speaker 1: before you get on your next flight, because it's completely different.
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of other stuff on the way.
Speaker 2: Stay here.
Speaker 9: We're going to head out to Moscow, where the head
Speaker 9: of Russia's Nuclear and Chemical defense forces was killed by
Speaker 9: a bomb this morning, and Ukraine is openly claiming responsibility.
Speaker 9: Russian officials say this explosive device was hidden in a
Speaker 9: scooter and left outside the apartment building of the target.
Speaker 9: Ukrainian security sources tell CBS News the country's security agency
Speaker 9: conducted a quote special operation to assassinate this General Igor Kyrillof,
Speaker 9: and just yesterday Ukraine also charged him in connection with
Speaker 9: Russia's use of illegal chemical weapons inside the country of Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Did Ukraine have the ability to pull that off on
Speaker 1: their own or was the CIA helping with that? That's
Speaker 1: what I would like to know. We may not know
Speaker 1: for fifty years. That sounds like God, maybe that sounds
Speaker 1: like a very CIA slash Masade sort of operation right there.
Speaker 1: I mean to get into the capitol or Russia and
Speaker 1: blow and know where this guy was, blow him up,
Speaker 1: get a bomb into a scooter.
Speaker 2: That's some pretty sophisticated stuff right there. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: is it pretty?
Speaker 4: I suppose I'm just picturing each side's advantage. I could
Speaker 4: see the Ukrainians doing it that they know the landscape,
Speaker 4: they look Russian, the many speed crushing. Anyway, quit using
Speaker 4: chemical weapons, you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: So next year, Southwest Airlines starts their assigned seating thing
Speaker 1: that they're going to roll out in bits. And if
Speaker 1: you're a list and have worked hard to be an
Speaker 1: a list person, that's just gonna cease meaning much so
Speaker 1: get used to it.
Speaker 2: That's where I am.
Speaker 4: Well, you get crack the first crack at the comfier
Speaker 4: seats because they're going to be a little more leg
Speaker 4: roomy and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, you kind of do, but you kind of don't,
Speaker 1: depending on whether people that signed up for assigned seats
Speaker 1: and bought them took them or not. So uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot like other airlines, which maybe
Speaker 1: you like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just don't think humanity can handle the honor system
Speaker 4: that Southwest kind of depended on anymore. There's too many
Speaker 4: people cheating the system.
Speaker 2: Oh really, no honor?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, faken you know they need extra time to
Speaker 4: get on board.
Speaker 1: The number of people that need wheelchairs that's exploded in
Speaker 1: recent years.
Speaker 4: But as always, there's a miracle healing in the air
Speaker 4: because they walk off under their own power when they
Speaker 4: get to their destination.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Twenty wheelchairs when you take off, two wheelchairs when you land.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sorry, Do you have more on that or no? Okay,
Speaker 4: So I just came across this Elizabeth Williamson, who's one
Speaker 4: of the elite reporters at the elite New York Times
Speaker 4: that just declared that they're going to have gender neutral
Speaker 4: bathrooms because of their transgender employees needs. Even though it
Speaker 4: lets there's like one percent of their employees who are
Speaker 4: either gender fluid or trans or whatever. Now they got
Speaker 4: tampons in the men's rooms. New York Times has lost
Speaker 4: its mind. But anyway, this Elizabeth Williamson has published this story.
Speaker 4: I asked Richard Grinnell, he is the Trump cabinet member,
Speaker 4: a longtime advisor, a gay man. Not that that matters really,
Speaker 4: but she said, ask Richard Garnell three times about his
Speaker 4: priorities for his new role. He chose not to answer
Speaker 4: those questions. Mister Grenell did not immediately reply to blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, and Grennell just tweeted New York Times reporter
Speaker 4: Liz What's her face?
Speaker 2: Lied?
Speaker 4: Yet again, I did respond to her increase, she said,
Speaker 4: I didn't. Here's what I sent Liz directly. Please use
Speaker 4: this on the record. You aren't a real reporter. You're
Speaker 4: an anti republican elitist. You may think people believe your writings,
Speaker 4: but everyone dismisses what you say because it's always the
Speaker 4: same negative gossip toward conservatives. We see you clearly. I
Speaker 4: don't even think your many and constant mistakes are worth
Speaker 4: mentioning to your editors. It's better to mock you. Publicly
Speaker 4: for making the mistakes you always make. You have ruined
Speaker 4: your credibility with your constant advocacy for the far left.
Speaker 2: That's good stuff right there.
Speaker 4: What she characterized in the article is Grannell did not respond.
Speaker 2: Yay did.
Speaker 1: We had Grannell on the show when we were in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: He was one of my favoritavorite people we talk to.
Speaker 1: He is very impressive, brilliant guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the chat. Looking forward to seeing what
Speaker 4: he can achieve in the new administration.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this New York Times tampons
Speaker 1: in the men's room thing, gender bending madness.