1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and he I'm strong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: A second grade student called nine to one one to 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: report a shooting had occurred at school. I'm gonna let that, 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: so can for a minute the second grade. 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Student, all right, we're not actually going to talk about 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: the school shooting, or at least I'm not actually going 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: to talk about school shooting. I've got some media comments though. 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: First of all, I was listening to a podcast the 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: other day and some woman from the Washington Post, who's 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: a conservative for the Washington Post, was actually talking about 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: She said, I'd before all my talking about these shootings 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: at all. The guy who shot the CEO of United Harald, 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the carriage school shot. Just let's just not do the stories. 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Let's just not do them at all. 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: She said. 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I know that's crazy, and it has the downside. Well, 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: let's just not give these people any air. There's clearly 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: a contagion effect, and I have agreed with that for 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: a very long time. But I keep looking up at 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the TV and seeing this tiny little girl. 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Probably the second grader being interviewed. 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: Mom, Dad, You know it's off limits for a parent 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: to criticize another parent's parenting. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Don't freaking have your eight year old talking to the brass. 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: They're not here tout the most traumatic thing that will 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: ever happen in their lives over and over and over again. 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: That's insane. I'll criticize their parenting. What is the matter 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: with you? Get that girl home and away from the cameras. 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Now, well, I could cut it off at don't let 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: your eight year old talk to the media without even 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: anything after that. I don't care what the topic is. 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: They're not there to make your kids life better, trust me. 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: But on this topic, especially good lord, who's sticking a 36 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: microphone in this little kid's face? 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: If the piglet winds are riven at the Wisconsin State Fair, 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: then they can. 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Talk to the media. That really bothers me. Yeah, so 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: and wise, But I got to ask this. 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: This is a media thing, not a school shooting thing 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: or shooting thing at all. As I figure out how 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: to take in media in the modern world, I've been 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: saying for a long time now that Twitter is like 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the best way to get information on a big media story. 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: When it happens. Pick one, like when Trump was shot. 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: I was getting all kinds of information when Trump was 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: shot an hour before the New York Times would have it, 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: or CBS News or whatever. But you do have to 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: wait through a lot of stuff that's not true. You 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: have to have a. 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Talent for it. 53 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Stuff that's in that doesn't seem true, or that's too 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: crazy to be true, or I'll have to see that 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: confirmed or something like that. As opposed to just running 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: with everything you come across. Is if it's clearly true 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: because somebody tweeted it was the shooter trans. 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: I've come across no information that that is true. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: I would agree at this point as yet. 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: But yesterday when I jumped on Twitter, it was just 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: full of fake pictures, real pictures, fake Facebook pages, all 62 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: kinds of different stuff trying to make the point that 63 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: the shooter was trans. How do we is this just 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: going to be the rest of our lives. You've got 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: a crowd out there that wanted the shooter to be trans. 66 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: You got a crowd out there that wants the shooter 67 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: to be a Trump supporter. You got a crowd obviously 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: that wants the shooter to be black. Shooting white people, 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: white shooting black people, all the different things and the 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: amount of time they put into faking up a profile, 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: faking up a Facebook page, faking up a Twitter account, 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: faking up an email, faking up pictures, faking up audio 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean including audio AI stuff. 74 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: I mean, who does. 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: This for one thing? Outside of China, Russia and North 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: Korean Iran? But are there are these? Are some of 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: you out there? You get a kick out of this, 78 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: like making up a profile for a fake person just 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: to what cause problems? 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a combination of you know, fooling 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: some of the people some of the time for political 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 4: purposes to rally people to your cause. And if I 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: you know, happy to agree with you, I certainly don't 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: agree with your methods. And the other part of it 85 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: is just klickonomics, just wanting to be the popular panderer. 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell my followers exactly what they want to hear, 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: and I'll send it along to their friends who will 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: be gratified by it too, and I'll get more followers, 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: be more popular, maybe make a few bucks, or maybe 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: just be a big wheel. 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't do it, and I should 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: have done as I was going through this stuff is 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: clicked on the person that was tweeting it out and 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: then gone to their home Twitter feed to see because 95 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it's you know, they got one follower and they've 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: been online for a month, that's when you know it's 97 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: a Russian bot or a Chinese bot. 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 99 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: And even if it's a real person, if they got 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: like two followers, why is anybody listening to them? But 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: it somehow gets into the feed the stream. I don't 102 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: know what we do. 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: About that phenomenon other than get better in this weight. 104 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Before anybody draws any conclusions, I would say, as I've 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: said for many, many years, if your concern is, for instance, 106 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't know the way they covered up that one 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: trans shooter, which the shooter actually was trans, and I 108 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: don't remember which one that was. 109 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: I was just going to bring that whole thing up. Okay, yeah, 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: but they covered that. 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: Up more or less. I mean, they didn't soft pedal, 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: did it. 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly a cover up, but it was definitely 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: soft pedal, like, we're not putting the story out there. 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: If that bothered you, getting out a fake trans shooter 116 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't help your cause. I think it hurts your cause. 117 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. 118 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a great like coda to what 119 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 4: I was going to say, which is the Nashville Christian 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 4: School shooter, who was a female, was quote unquote transgender, 121 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: meaning confused and led down the path of radical gender 122 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: theory by various mentorists discussing it's sick, it's terrible taking 123 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: a confused adolescent and manipulating them for your purposes. She 124 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 4: was particularly angry at the Christian school because generally speaking, 125 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: the more religious people are, the less likely they are 126 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: to be into the whole neo Marxist gender bending madness stuff, 127 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: and so she decided to punish Christians for not supporting 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: her in her utterly futile quest to be happier by 129 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: changing into a dude. That was the story. It's troubling. 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: She had a manifesto that the media had zero interest in. 131 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: It's funny. 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 4: Every killer's manifesto, with every cause imaginable, has been absolute. 133 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: Just honey for a bear, accept that manifesto? 134 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: So odd? That is all true. 135 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: It's no less true if this chick was just an 136 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: angry chick. It's no more true if this chick was 137 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: another one of them. I get that, you know, more 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: evidence builds the case, but yeah, don't you don't need 139 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: to go there, have confidence in your beliefs and then 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: wait for the facts to come in. But I don't, 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like a man standing on the 142 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: beach shouting at the tide not to come in. It's 143 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: just the new environment we all live in, and we 144 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: have to be better at processing it or it will 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: tear us apart and ruin the empire. 146 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know now, I don't exactly know how, like 147 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: the community notes work on Twitter. But the first tweet 148 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: I saw claiming this shooter was trans and it had 149 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: a couple of it's had the picture when he was 150 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: a boy and now as a girl. The community notes 151 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter were, this is not real, this is actually 152 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: this is who this actually is, So this isn't real. 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: I thought, okay, cool, But then I saw this same 154 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: tweet more or less, you know, half a page down 155 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: that didn't have the community notes on it. So I 156 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know how that whole algorithm works or not yet anyway, Yeah, 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: if Elon can get better at that or whatever, but 158 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: that's troubling. 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: That's troubling. There wasn't advantage. 160 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: Community notes are actual human beings like me. I've done 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: some who take a minute to say, hey, this is 162 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: your research it and you put the note there and 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: then people voted uppertown or but there's no and it 164 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 4: becomes a note. 165 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: But apparently there's no way for that community note because 166 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: you caught that one tweet for it to end up 167 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: on a different tweet with exactly the same message. 168 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: Apparently not point about the algorithm. 169 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an advantage when there was a gatekeeper, 170 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: like it was the CBS Evening News in New York 171 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Times or whoever. As much as I hated their left 172 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: leaning this and that, there was some advantage when there 173 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: were some gatekeepers that wouldn't run with complete crap, you know, 174 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: moments after something happened and have everybody an uproar order 175 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: something that wasn't true. 176 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: Well right, because you know it's the world is very 177 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: flat now and your ability to have a platform depends 178 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: on nothing but having a social media account. Now you 179 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: have to be elevated by a certain level of popularity 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: for many people to see your takes. But the problem 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: is the process of elevating people might just be who 182 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: panders the most successfully, who has the most extreme opinions. 183 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: You know, just being a bomb chucking lunatic wouldn't get 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: you a gig on the CBS Evening News. You have 185 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 4: to be good at what you did and reliable and 186 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: check your sources and the rest of it. Yeah, they 187 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: leaned left, but they're pretty good journalists. And so this 188 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: new world where you can get elevated for the worst 189 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: of reasons, it's going to be challenging to navigate down down. Say, 190 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if we can. Honestly, I'm a wait 191 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: and see guy on all of this stuff. You have 192 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: societies like Russia in particular, that nobody believes anything and 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: everybody he walks around bitterly cynical and borderline hopeless. Which, sorry, 194 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: it's the Christmas season. Why am I bringing you down? 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: Because I'm a realist. 196 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: Sorry. 197 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been taking in some of the stuff from 198 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Syrians who had such a limited view of what was 199 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: going on in the world because of the assad's ability 200 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: to control information. 201 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: Can I confess something awful? I'm not a Catholic man. 202 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: I've never been to confession, partly because there's so many sins. 203 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: I mean, the priest would finally throw me out. Dude, 204 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 4: there are people in line. 205 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Right, my family's expecting me at home. I guess, I 206 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: guess that wouldn't be the guess with it. You've made 207 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: it through the felonies. 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the felonies, the perversities. You die. 209 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm thrown up twice. That's enough. 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 4: Come back next week. Tell me more anyway, and try 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: thing between now and next week. All right, this makes 212 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: me a bad person. 213 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: When Seeing had. 214 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: Their dramatic live television moment and freed that poor beleaguered prisoner, 215 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: I was thinking at the time, it's been like a week. 216 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Why is this guy still locked in a room? This 217 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: seems odd to me. 218 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: There's something odd going on here. And then it turns 219 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 4: out he was in there because he was a brutal 220 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: torturer and the other inmates have had thrown him in 221 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: there or what have you. 222 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: And then you. 223 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: Know, and he came out and faked being sensitive to delight. 224 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: But he was like pudgy and well, really healthy looking 225 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: and all. The fact that CNN got duped makes me happy. 226 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: Where's that guy? Now? 227 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Did he disappear back out into the public and he's 228 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: going to be able to get away? 229 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: I'll bet he did. I can't remember. 230 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: I read the PostScript to that that the new authorities 231 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: had done something or other. But I don't know, because 232 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: he should be torn on limb for limb or set 233 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: on fire or something by the rebels. Oh yeah, yeah, 234 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: because he would torture people for politics, then he just 235 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: torture them for and only stop if your family paid 236 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: him off. I mean, yeah, he had a well, there 237 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: isn't a fate awful enough for him, although. 238 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: Locking him in there is wouldn't a bad idea, and 239 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: just dying of thirst and the hunger and being alone 240 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: in there is not awesome either, So they didn't have 241 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: a bad plan because I'm surprised they didn't beat him 242 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: to death when they had the chance, right for they 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: were in a hurry to get out of there. 244 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 245 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: Anyway, nice job seeing and very dramatic party, had no viewers. Hey, 246 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: I hate to take that shot because Clariss Ward's a 247 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: great report. Yeah, and yeah, it's not her fault out 248 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: you know, now, unfortunate series of events that made me happy, 249 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 4: which makes me a bad person, which will be part 250 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: of your confession, your very very long list as previously referenced. Right, 251 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: we got more from the Trump press conference. 252 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: Men the city Council meeting in Chicago got crazy yesterday 253 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: as people are very angry with how much money the 254 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: mayor is spending on illegals. 255 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: Got a whole bunch of other stuff to talk about. 256 00:12:58,679 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: I hope you can stay here. 257 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: Jesus Pabla, Harry Jet them mixed, all those guys, the 258 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: neo crooners. Yeah, cool stuff like this. 259 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: A little Christmas decorating today. 260 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: So before we get to the new latest news of 261 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: the day on the drones, we got the late night 262 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: comics of course, made some jokes about the drones last night, 263 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: so we thought we could. 264 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: Have a late night joke off. 265 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, all three of them are going to take a shot. Well, 266 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: three of them are going to take shot. We'll rank 267 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: each joke and and grade it with a letter grade. 268 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: The bottom grade getter is banned from comedy for life. 269 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Let's hear of Michael. 270 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: Well, guys, Christmas is just nine days away, and everyone's 271 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: in the spirit. Tonight I was admiring all the beautiful lights, 272 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 5: and then I realized that there was. 273 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: Just the drones over New Jersey. 274 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's talking about these mysterious drones that keep appearing 275 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 5: over New Jersey. Nobody knows where they come from or 276 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: why they exist. It's basically air crypto. Everything annoyed about 277 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: the drones right now. The Chinese by balloons are like staying. 278 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: Your lane, girl, staying in your life. 279 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 6: Because as of today, the drone armada has also been 280 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 6: spotted in New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Ohio, which 281 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 6: can mean only one thing. The drones are visiting colleges. Remember, drones, 282 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 6: don't worry about going to the best school. Go to 283 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 6: the school where you can be your best self. 284 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: The drones flying over in New Jersey. 285 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 6: I mean, if they were still making new Sopranos episodes, 286 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 6: Tony would definitely be flying drones. 287 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: WHOA still check this out. You can take pictures of 288 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: your neighbor's house. I don't know anything about no drones. 289 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: D Maybe we had drones, we wouldn't have lost it 290 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: rushing in the woods. Wow, didn't go great. I feel 291 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: great about it. That was a stretch. Wow. 292 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, this is uh. We're going into the fine 293 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: print of the grading system here. Fellon with a B 294 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: plus for good naturedness, Colbert with a B. It was 295 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: all right, Myers with an A, but a full grade 296 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: deduction for you've got to be a huge soprance. 297 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 298 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: And the little data there, that's so the ashshale news 299 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: on the drones. Senator Doug Mastriano, who is the other 300 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Senator who doesn't get any attention because his cohart 301 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: is Fetterman. 302 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: Throw on the hoodie, Doug, or a tank top or something. 303 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: You gotta go with, novelty garb these you gotta have 304 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: a brand. 305 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: This is a sitting US senator where they're now seeing drones. 306 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: He said, it's inconceivable that the federal government has no 307 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: answers nor has taken any action to get to the 308 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: bottom of the unidentified drones. The fecklands specklessness of this 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: administration was on display last year when a Chinese surveillance 310 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: balloon was allowed to fly over the entire United States. 311 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Such should be viewed as a threat to our nation 312 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: and citizens, and action. 313 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: Is long overdue. Blah blah blah blah blah. 314 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: So that's a sitting US senator who has no answers. 315 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: While just a little bit ago er. This morning, a 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: number of federal agencies signed onto a letter together saying 317 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: there is no threat to the public from the drones, 318 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: but they're still saying they don't have any answers. If 319 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: they would come out and say, we know what they are, 320 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: trust us, there's no threat. But they're saying we don't 321 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: know what they are and there's no threat, which doesn't 322 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: fit together as a thought correct. 323 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's universally recognized. I think America 324 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: is developing a sense of people know what's happening, just 325 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: go ahead and tell us, which it's a tough one. 326 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: It depends on the nature of the what they're doing 327 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: in whites classified, and it could be they just can't 328 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: find a way to tell. 329 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: Us part of it. I hope that's it. 330 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: I hope it's that we're on such the cutting edge 331 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: of drone defenses and drone warfare that it's just too 332 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: advanced to share with the people and not just buy 333 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: and style and competence. 334 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: They can't even share it with us senators though apparently. 335 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: Well you can't trust senators, blah blah blah. 336 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: The curious case of Caitlan Clark coming up next to 337 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. 338 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 7: Jimangioni retained a new high powered former Manhattan prosecutor and 339 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 7: a defense fund set up for the suspect reached one 340 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 7: hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, though it's unclear if his 341 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 7: defense team will accept that money. 342 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear it's only one hundred and fifteen 343 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. As a guy who's had a lot of 344 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: legal bills in the last couple of years, that ain't much. 345 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: It won't last long. 346 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: So yeah, oh, brother, So I want to talk about 347 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: the Caitlin Clark situation and how it is just such 348 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: a beautiful illustration of the stupidity, the awfulness, and the 349 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 4: utter destructiveness of racialism which has had its moment in 350 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: the country. You know, thanks to Derek chauven and George 351 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: Floyd and the rest of it, nobody could speak out 352 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: against its excesses. 353 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: For a little while. 354 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: And the whole everything's about race and should be out 355 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: race and everything should be viewed through the lens of 356 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: race at bubba idea, which is insidious, horrible, Unamerican. 357 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, remember sudden that rule of the day, Remember that 358 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: polling we had last week where every group wants a 359 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: color blind society, like everybody, Republicans, Democrats, old, young, white, 360 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: only only black people slightly wanted a race focused. 361 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: Society right, and yet I hear the listeners shouting hit 362 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: the speaker right now. I had to sit through six 363 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 4: hours of white people are bad training to keep my job, 364 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: to keep my professorship, you know, to teach, to keep 365 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: my teaching gig, and the rest of it, just even 366 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: though virtually nobody is in favor of this madness. But 367 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: so anyway, if you're familiar with the story, I'll hit 368 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: the basics of it. Caitlin Clark was on the cover 369 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 4: of Time website used to be a magazine honoring her 370 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: as the athlete of the year, and indeed the young 371 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: woman who it was pointed out elsewhere. And forgive me 372 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: if this isn't exactly right, but she was All American 373 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 4: College several times, brought her team to the National Championship 374 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: Game two consecutive years, reinvented the women's game, electrified the 375 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: college audiences. 376 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: All time leading scorer, and then the crowds she's drawn 377 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: in the WNBA like NBA sized crowds. It's been amazing, 378 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: raining shots down from where they've never been taken before. 379 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: A silky passer in the style of Larry Bird. Just 380 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: a really exciting player happens to be a white woman 381 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: playing in the WNBA, which is a predominantly black league 382 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: like the NBA itself, and the reaction to Caitlin Clark's 383 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: success and what it's done for the WNBA has been 384 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: incredibly strange and troubling. 385 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: They are all sorts of players. 386 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: I've got all sorts of quotes here about Ajah Wilson 387 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: of the Las Vegas Aces, the league's MVP, said it's 388 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: straight out Clark's race was a huge reason for her popularity. Quote, 389 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter what we do, as black women were 390 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 4: still going to be swept underneath the rug. That's why 391 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: it boils my blood when people say it's not about race, 392 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: because it was. 393 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: You have team owners. 394 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: Shila Johnson, the black owner of the Washington Mystics, echoed Wilson, 395 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: telling CNN the only reason Clark was getting any claim 396 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: was because she was white. I feel really bad because 397 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: I've seen so many players of color that are equally 398 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: as talented never got the recognition that they should have. 399 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: Why couldn't they put the whole WNBA on the cover 400 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: and say the WNBA is the League of the Year. 401 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: People commented that thirty one percent of her team's attendance 402 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 4: for the entire season came from the two games they 403 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: played against Caitlin Clark's Indiana Fever. 404 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: Wow. Almost a third Wow. 405 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: I would like to run in a parallel universe, same 406 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: status with a black girl from Iowa or from wherever, 407 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: exact same status, all through college, all through pros. 408 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: And see what the reaction would be. Well, that's a 409 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: great thought. And here's my analysis of that experiment. In 410 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: a world where you got white kids all over the 411 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: place idolizing black NFL players and black NBA players, if 412 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 4: it turned out that for whatever reason, people can relate 413 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: more and root more to people for people who look 414 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: like them, that just is what it is. 415 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: What are you going to do? Now? 416 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: Are you going to and I'm going to get to 417 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: a part that's just so idiotic and suicidal. If that's 418 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: the case, how about you embrace the incredible exciting fund 419 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: to watch Caitlyn Clark because she has lifted all boats. 420 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 4: All the salaries are going up, all the attendance is 421 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: going up, all the attention's going up. If, for whatever reason, 422 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: a country that's more white than black roots more for 423 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 4: this super exciting white player, use her a quote unquote 424 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: as a business and say Hey, how about this passing 425 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: from this gal and people will see her and say, wow, 426 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: what a ballplayer. 427 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what Charles Barkley said. He said, the 428 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: WNBA has mishandled this so badly. It's the greatest gift 429 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: that's ever happened to them since the league started. 430 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: And they're screwed it up. Oh yeah, it's unbelievable. 431 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: They're either attacking her or belly aching that it's happening 432 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: or grumbling that it shouldn't be happening their own league. 433 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: It's suicidal. And look, I'm a football fan. 434 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: I know a lot of football fans of a bunch 435 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: of different teams, and a number of the teams have 436 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: just absolutely outstanding black quarterbacks. 437 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: And here eat a single one of them. 438 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 4: Who roots less for that quarterback because he's darker of skin. 439 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: This is not the way sports fans work. 440 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't doubt that Kaitlin Clark gets more attention 441 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: because she's white in a predominantly black sport. 442 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: But straight might have something to do with it too, honestly, 443 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 4: because the vast majority of people are straight. 444 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: But I don't think the skin color plays as big 445 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: a role as a lot of people are claiming. 446 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: I mean, because. 447 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: She she did score more points than anybody ever has 448 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: in women's or men's college basketball history. She's the all 449 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: time leading scorer for men and women, Right, I mean 450 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: that's I I've seeing lots of black players every bit 451 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: as talented, as productive, as exciting to watch. 452 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Right. 453 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: And again, even if you're right, what does that tell you? 454 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: And this is a beautiful example of progressivism? The answer, 455 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: like that that owner of the Washington Mystics would give you, 456 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 4: is well, we need to change humanity. 457 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: We need to change human names. 458 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: Sure, we need to fundamentally reorder human psychees. Yeah, okay, 459 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: good luck with that, or just market Caitlin Clark is 460 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: one of a bunch of great players, and watch your 461 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: league grow. Anyway, So perhaps you heard about this which 462 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: which happened first. I guess Caitlyn Clark's interview with Maria 463 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 4: Taylor happened first. Michael, go ahead and play clip sixteen. 464 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: Here's where it gets a little twisted. Caitlin Clarks is 465 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: a young woman fresh out at college working in the WNBA, 466 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: and the people around her are saying, you should have 467 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: white guilt because you have unfairly exploited your skin color. 468 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: And here's how the conversation went. 469 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 8: And I feel like you have had to answer more 470 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 8: questions than anybody about the intersectionality of race and gender 471 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 8: and sexuality in sport because of just who you are, 472 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 8: and you represent the growth of this thing. And even today, 473 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 8: early today Meg and Kelly, she was saying that you were. 474 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: Apologizing for your white privilege. 475 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 8: And the fact that you wanted to uplift black female 476 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 8: athletes and make sure that they were getting the shine 477 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 8: kind of like your pioneers were getting the shine that 478 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: they deserved. And I just want to know how you 479 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 8: feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms 480 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 8: when you have to deal with something that it's really 481 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 8: not your problem, Like I feel like it's them looking 482 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 8: in a mirror a little bit, but it still comes 483 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 8: down on your shoulders. I feel like I always have 484 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 8: had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened 485 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 8: in my life, whether that's been good, whether that's been bad. 486 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not that clip. I thought it was. I'm 487 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: sorry when this happens, I'd misread the description. We have 488 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: a clip not long ago, a few days ago, of 489 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark talking about how you know her she feels 490 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: her white privilege and is aware of it and the 491 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 4: rest of it. 492 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry for the confusion, but. 493 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: To what she just said there, I perfectly read that 494 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: was a long. 495 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: Speech by the interviewer. What the hell was that? 496 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: But a perfectly reasonable answer to any of this stuff 497 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: as a twenty two year old who, I guarantee when 498 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark gets up in the morning, the thing she's 499 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: thinking about the most is how do I make my 500 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: upper body stronger to compete in the league and how 501 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: do I increase my blah blah blah about playing That's 502 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: what's mostly on her mind. 503 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: But I'd be perfectly reasonable to. 504 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: Say I never think about any of this stuff at 505 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: all ever in my life. 506 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: Is the answer. I think about basketball ninety nine percent 507 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: of the time. 508 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's that would be a good thing to say. 509 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 4: And I wish we had the original clip. It doesn't matter. 510 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna hate on Kate Len Clark. She's 511 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: she's a woman child, she's a kid fresh out of college. Yes, 512 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: she has been indoctrinated, and that's that's fine. She'll real 513 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: life will teach her reality soon enough. I would think 514 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: and a lot of people commented on her bending the 515 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: knee to the racial grievance industry, and as opposed she did. 516 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: So she's supposed to take on your fight, my fight, 517 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: whatever against this white privilege nonsense, which I do think 518 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: is nonsense. But she's supposed to do that as a 519 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: basketball player. That make her life fun. Wouldn't that be 520 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: fun to end up being the I'm gonna stand up 521 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: against white privileged person. 522 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: Man. 523 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: That'll be a good time in my twenties. Oh yeah, 524 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask her to do that in a locker. 525 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: Room full of young women's, many of whom of color, 526 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 4: who believe this stuff. So yeah, we can't ask that 527 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: of her. Go play exciting baseball or basketball rather, and 528 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: we'll deal with the rest of it. I read a 529 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: great story this is a little sports team, but about 530 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 4: when Larry Bird came into the league, a predominantly black 531 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 4: league even then, and how there's a little bit of oh, 532 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: the white boys getting all the attention, and whether through 533 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 4: unbelievable play or if somebody wanted to throw a punch, 534 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 4: he'd throw on right back. The respect came and it 535 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: quickly became not about race at all. And you know, 536 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: I would love to see a little more of that here, 537 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 4: but it's a different time, in a different situation, WNBA, 538 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: and partly because women are different than men. But this 539 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: is maybe the first and only time I've ever quoted 540 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: Lebron James in my life, and he tweeted this out 541 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: a couple of months ago. If you don't rock with 542 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark and her game, you're just a flat out hater. 543 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: But these people do hate. They are haters. Oh that's right. 544 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: I want to talk about this too real quickly, Rich, 545 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: How is your daughter? Just thinking? Is myself? 546 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: If Kaitlyn Clark was your daughter, what would you have 547 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: told her before she got into all this mess? I 548 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: think I'd have gone with the All I think about 549 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: is basketball. I don't think about any of this stuff. 550 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: I would say, take care of business. You will, you 551 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: have enough on your plate. You have a big enough 552 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: challenge in front of you. Don't try to fix the world. 553 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: You'd have to. 554 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: You'd have to like practice though, because people are gonna 555 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: would try to shame her. They already are try to 556 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: sham her into having answer. Oh yeah, you owe it 557 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: to the pioneers of the league. I don't you don't 558 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: owe it to anybody to do anything other didn't show 559 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: up and play as hard as I can. Yeah, that's 560 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: and that's it's a misunderstanding of the free market and 561 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: how beautiful it is and how well it works, and 562 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: how it eliminates racism. And Milton Friedman wrote some great 563 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: stuff about this, and I can't remember I've seen some 564 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: other stuff. But since you're the entire question is what 565 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: is the best interaction. What is the best transaction I 566 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: can have? If the best transaction is with somebody who 567 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: doesn't look like me, if I miss out on that, 568 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I lose. 569 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. 570 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: Whereas the uh A free economy is how people get 571 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: to know each other and cast aside their preconceptions. Let 572 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark play, let her play hard, let her play 573 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: against black people or whatever and white people, and and just. 574 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Let it play out. 575 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 4: Quit trying to come up with a like an action 576 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 4: plan to manage the WNBA and manage the economy and 577 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: manage everybody's interactions at work, for instance. Now, just just 578 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 4: let us go about our business. It's going to be fine. 579 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to get into some of the idiotic reactions 580 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: to the Daniel penny verdict. 581 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: We can hit that another time. 582 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: But anybody who's trying to make it all about race 583 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: is a race hustler in a liar. 584 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: It's not race hustlers and liars everywhere. He's gonna keep fighting. 585 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm flying over Christmas break and Southwest Airlines has 586 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: gotten a rid of their seating thing that everybody liked 587 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: for so long. There's now a signed seating which ends 588 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: any advantage to being a list. It looks like to 589 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: me as far as I can tell. But you you're 590 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna want to know about this if you fly Southwest 591 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: before you get on your next flight, because it's completely different. 592 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: I had a bunch of other stuff on the way. 593 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: Stay here. 594 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 9: We're going to head out to Moscow, where the head 595 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 9: of Russia's Nuclear and Chemical defense forces was killed by 596 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 9: a bomb this morning, and Ukraine is openly claiming responsibility. 597 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 9: Russian officials say this explosive device was hidden in a 598 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 9: scooter and left outside the apartment building of the target. 599 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 9: Ukrainian security sources tell CBS News the country's security agency 600 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 9: conducted a quote special operation to assassinate this General Igor Kyrillof, 601 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 9: and just yesterday Ukraine also charged him in connection with 602 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 9: Russia's use of illegal chemical weapons inside the country of Ukraine. 603 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Did Ukraine have the ability to pull that off on 604 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: their own or was the CIA helping with that? That's 605 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: what I would like to know. We may not know 606 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: for fifty years. That sounds like God, maybe that sounds 607 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: like a very CIA slash Masade sort of operation right there. 608 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean to get into the capitol or Russia and 609 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: blow and know where this guy was, blow him up, 610 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: get a bomb into a scooter. 611 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: That's some pretty sophisticated stuff right there. Yeah, I don't know, 612 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: is it pretty? 613 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: I suppose I'm just picturing each side's advantage. I could 614 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: see the Ukrainians doing it that they know the landscape, 615 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: they look Russian, the many speed crushing. Anyway, quit using 616 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: chemical weapons, you son of a bitch. 617 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: So next year, Southwest Airlines starts their assigned seating thing 618 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: that they're going to roll out in bits. And if 619 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: you're a list and have worked hard to be an 620 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: a list person, that's just gonna cease meaning much so 621 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: get used to it. 622 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: That's where I am. 623 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: Well, you get crack the first crack at the comfier 624 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: seats because they're going to be a little more leg 625 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: roomy and stuff. 626 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 627 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: No, you kind of do, but you kind of don't, 628 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: depending on whether people that signed up for assigned seats 629 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: and bought them took them or not. So uh yeah, yeah, 630 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot like other airlines, which maybe 631 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: you like that. 632 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 633 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 4: I just don't think humanity can handle the honor system 634 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 4: that Southwest kind of depended on anymore. There's too many 635 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: people cheating the system. 636 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: Oh really, no honor? 637 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, faken you know they need extra time to 638 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: get on board. 639 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: The number of people that need wheelchairs that's exploded in 640 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: recent years. 641 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: But as always, there's a miracle healing in the air 642 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: because they walk off under their own power when they 643 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: get to their destination. 644 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 645 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: Twenty wheelchairs when you take off, two wheelchairs when you land. 646 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sorry, Do you have more on that or no? Okay, 647 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 4: So I just came across this Elizabeth Williamson, who's one 648 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: of the elite reporters at the elite New York Times 649 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 4: that just declared that they're going to have gender neutral 650 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: bathrooms because of their transgender employees needs. Even though it 651 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: lets there's like one percent of their employees who are 652 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 4: either gender fluid or trans or whatever. Now they got 653 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: tampons in the men's rooms. New York Times has lost 654 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: its mind. But anyway, this Elizabeth Williamson has published this story. 655 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 4: I asked Richard Grinnell, he is the Trump cabinet member, 656 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 4: a longtime advisor, a gay man. Not that that matters really, 657 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: but she said, ask Richard Garnell three times about his 658 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 4: priorities for his new role. He chose not to answer 659 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 4: those questions. Mister Grenell did not immediately reply to blah 660 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 4: blah blah, and Grennell just tweeted New York Times reporter 661 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 4: Liz What's her face? 662 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: Lied? 663 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: Yet again, I did respond to her increase, she said, 664 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 4: I didn't. Here's what I sent Liz directly. Please use 665 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 4: this on the record. You aren't a real reporter. You're 666 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: an anti republican elitist. You may think people believe your writings, 667 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: but everyone dismisses what you say because it's always the 668 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 4: same negative gossip toward conservatives. We see you clearly. I 669 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 4: don't even think your many and constant mistakes are worth 670 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 4: mentioning to your editors. It's better to mock you. Publicly 671 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: for making the mistakes you always make. You have ruined 672 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 4: your credibility with your constant advocacy for the far left. 673 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: That's good stuff right there. 674 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 4: What she characterized in the article is Grannell did not respond. 675 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: Yay did. 676 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: We had Grannell on the show when we were in Milwaukee. 677 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: He was one of my favoritavorite people we talk to. 678 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: He is very impressive, brilliant guy. 679 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 680 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the chat. Looking forward to seeing what 681 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 4: he can achieve in the new administration. 682 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: I want to hear about this New York Times tampons 683 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: in the men's room thing, gender bending madness.