WEBVTT - Super Mega Recruiting Recap 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.720 Welcome to the solid verbal. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:05.600 I'll that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.200 I'm a man, I'm forty. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:10.680 be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.440 You want to be happy for day Ato State? Is 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.960 that woo woom? And Dan and Ty. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.720 Welcome back to the Solid Verbal. Boys and girls. My 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.240 name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always my good friend, 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.480 my colleague, my co host of many years. His name 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:30.639 is Dan Rubinstein. Over there in New York City, Sir. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.280 How are you? I'm good, Ty, I am. I'm excited 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.440 that we got to space out signing day. I'm not 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.600 excited that my team has three head coaches in like 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.519 fourteen months, but I'm excited that it wasn't all crammed 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.320 into a single day. Selfishly, it was much easier to 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.600 follow because I'm an old man. So life is good. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:49.959 You know what I thought you were going to say, 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.440 don't you What's that I thought you were going to say? 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.120 You were excited that we launched a car into space, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.920 not that we were spacing out any kind of man 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.360 signing peer or anything on the college football side of things. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.360 I will do a space episode at some point this offseason. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.959 Today is for signing Day. Stuff did not understand that. Okay, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.600 didn't understand that. But listen, Ty, it's national I guess, yeah, 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.800 it's National Signing Day. It's not the early signing period. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.840 And I'll bet our guests and their analysis will be 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.240 out of this or boom there it is. Talk about 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.440 the star rankings. We're talking about actual celestial bodies. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.280 Look at you, Look at you? Firing up the pun 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:38.160 gun here. Yeah, on the traditional National Signing Day. We've 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.039 done countless shows on this very day for as far 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.000 back as I can possibly remember. Now, of course they 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.600 changed up the process on us. So there was another 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.760 one of these, an early signing period on which we 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.200 did a show back in December. Right, we talked about 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.840 a good chunk of the guys who signed back then. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.480 I think something like sixty five or seventy of the 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.559 guys signed back on the early signing day. Now we've 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:08.920 got the more traditional version of recruiting's National Signing Day again, 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.040 coverage on ESPN, ESPN two all throughout the day. We're 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.600 going to talk with Brandon Hoffman. We're going to talk 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.120 with but Elliott I believe in studio. Is that correct? 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.239 That is true? We're going to bring Bud into into 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.640 the big, official, beautiful studio here at the Espanation Office. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.560 We promised back in December that on this day we 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.320 would give you a full, more comprehensive recap of what 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.639 transpired in all of the Power five conferences, what transpired 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.919 at Notre Dame. We'll talk a little bit about Group 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.320 of Five conferences as well. Just do our best here 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.840 with Brandon, with Bud's help, to try and give you 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.640 a good thirty thousand foot view of what went on 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.079 in the world of recruiting in this particular recruiting cycle. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.480 Yeah, and I think we're going to get HERM. Edwards 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.600 on the line. He's on vacation. I guess there was 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.800 some mix up he didn't. I think he thought it 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.440 was March and it was just a whole thing. Now 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.959 it's the first class for HERM. Edwards and irmured Werderge 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.520 in Arizona State. So yeah, I think there's a bunch 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.080 of storylines to go over. It's just like all hal Georgia, 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.920 I guess is the big thing we're gonna have to 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.120 talk about. But now, I think, all in all a 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.480 good signing day. I think there's good stories. I think 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.440 there's teams that perhaps out recruited what they've been doing lately, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.440 which is always cool to see the talent level coming 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.160 up at places where it hasn't necessarily been the highest. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.280 So I'm excited not just to hear about how the 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.480 Powers did, but certainly how teams across this vast land 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:40.040 have done. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.880 The other point of note before we jump right in 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.920 with Brandon Hoffman from twenty four to seven, there will 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.720 be another recruiting show. We're planning on it next week 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:53.320 and it will be titled How Recruiting Works. It's a 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.080 little bit of a different style for us. We did 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:00.800 a couple of these last year and a couple minutes 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.560 of it. I'm only a couple minutes through of the 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.760 final mix, but I'm pretty excited about where it's headed. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.960 We talked to Brandon, we talked to Bud, We talked 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.200 to some other friends in and around the world of 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.680 college football and college football media. We've got parents that 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.360 are coming on the program to talk about the recruiting process. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.320 So not ours, not ours, no no, no, gonna do 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.400 a deep dive on recruiting, all the players involved, and 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.320 I don't know, try to peel back the curtain and 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.000 describe the process. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.839 We should do a listening party for the How College 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.640 Football Works Recruiting show in the way that I think 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.120 justin Timberlake had a listening party. Okay, Prince's house, so 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.720 I think we should go to the forty forty Club. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.080 Let's invite Rick Rubin just like let people jam out 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.120 to the newest episode, Ty, I think it's a banger. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.960 Can have people facebook live or periscope themselves or just 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.320 take a short clip of you listening to it. Yeah, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:54.680 a virtual listening party. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:55.480 Yes. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.920 On that note, let's get to our friend Brandon Huffman. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.159 He's been on this show countless times. On this very day, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.880 he is now with twenty four to seven Sports Brandon 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.360 Hoffman joining us. How are you, sir? 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.320 I'm doing good, Dan, Ty. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.080 It's like a lot of years, a long time. It 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.680 was so long ago. I was with Scout back when 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:15.560 we first started this. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.040 Oh, it was a different time. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.400 So how are you, and more importantly, how have you 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.080 enjoyed this new process. 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:23.160 I'm doing good. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.240 I am actually kind of enjoying this secondary one because 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.360 there's less unicorns to chase around because we spent most 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.320 of the December month doing so. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.240 But it's been interesting. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.920 There's still been a lot of late drama, as you 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.479 would expect at this time of year, but a lot 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.440 less drama on the grand scheme of scene because only 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.320 about thirty to thirty five percent of the available recruits 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.000 signed today. Everybody else was done in December, so it's 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.400 been unique. It's been different, but it's kind of preparedness 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.200 for what the reality of signing day and the early 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.920 signing period is going to be like in the future. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:01.880 Did you have a particular favorite in the announcement category, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.200 the creative announcement category, Let's say, yeah. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.760 You know, I still think back to an Isaiah Kroll 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.280 used a little baby bulldog Andre Smith pulling out the 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.719 hounds tooth hat. But kind of a new thing this 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.120 year is a crying baby or just baby in general 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.120 to announce where kids going to school. Tommy Bush this 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.760 morning revealed his announcement that he was going to Georgia 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.159 by taking the hand off of his niece who was 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.240 wearing a Georgia's shirt. And even though he had the 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.559 hats and the shirts in front of him, the niece 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.600 was wearing the Georgia shirt and that was his announcement, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.120 and then she started crying. I don't know if she 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.120 didn't want him to go to Georgia or if she 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.400 just was trying to figure out why everybody was looking 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.719 at her. I'm in Merlin Robertson, a four star linebacker 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.400 out of Southern California, who he announced for Arizona State 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.520 by also revealing he's going to be a sun devil 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.680 by a baby at his announcement, unzipping their sweashirt and 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.800 rebellion Arizona State sweasher. So that's kind of the new thing. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.040 Animals are a scene of the past, hats are a 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.640 little bit of thing of the past, and now we've 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.840 got babies announcing where guys will be taking their talents 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.360 for the next three or four years. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.600 Regarding the actual players, Brandon, every class is strong at 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.680 one position, not so strong at another. Where were the 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.520 strengths Where were the weaknesses in the twenty eighteen class. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.640 I would say that strengths are certainly at the quarterback position. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.960 And this is probably the best one through three punch 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.720 we've seen from a quarterback class, maybe ever. And part 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:36.080 of that was because of the late reclassification of JT. Daniels, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.960 who was our number one quarterback in the twenty nineteen class. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.120 He reclassified to be a part of the twenty eighteen class, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.520 signed a day with USC, but he joins a group 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.480 of guys that includes Trevor Lawrence, who was the number 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.320 one player in the country in the twenty eighteen class 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.680 and ended up being the composite number one player. I'm 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.120 in Justin Fields and he's the number two player in 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.680 the country. So Trevor Lawrence is the number one overall 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.640 pro style quarterback, a number one overall player, Justin Fields 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.640 right behind them, and then you have JT. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.080 Daniels in there as well. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.080 Each of those three guys are going to have a 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.480 chance to see early playing time. I would imagine that 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.280 Daniels is in the best position because Sam Darnold's gone, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.200 Justin Fields will have to deal with Jake from and 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.240 Trevor Lawrence will have to deal with Kelly Ryant and 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.880 Hunter Johnson who was there last year. But both those guys, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.760 Lawrence and Field's got one hundred plus graved on twenty 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.200 four to seven Sports, and then J. T. Daniels right 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.360 behind him at number ninety nine, number six overall players. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.880 So great quarterback class, a outstanding defensive line class. I 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.240 talk about Lawrence and fields one and two and then three, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.240 four and five are all defensive ends. Eo Biaoma, who's 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.920 going to Alabama, was the number three overall player. Zager 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.640 Thomas is the number four overall player from IMG going 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.839 to Clemson, and then Michael Parsons, who's a weak side 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.040 defensive end but could play some linebacker, could play at 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.840 number of positions, is the number five overall players. So 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.760 pass rushers and quarterbacks are the two kind of standards 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.280 in this class offensive line outside of the select few, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.240 not a great class, not a deep class. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:08.760 In the running back class. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.720 You know, we've gotten some pretty good running back groups 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.240 these last couple of years. This year not real strong, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.280 not real deep at the running back position. Next years 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.640 will be much better. So you know you'll see a 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.240 lot of running backs in that twenty nineteen class. So 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.280 I see their recruitments inflated a little bit because there 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:30.200 just wasn't the huge amount of running back talent this 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.280 year after a very good class of it a year ago. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.560 Let me ask you something just because you mentioned justin 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.400 fields and we'll talk about this later with Bud Elliott 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.480 with regard to Georgia and the SEC, but in terms 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.880 of how this year's Georgia class ranks and I'm seeing 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.800 seven five stars, which is more than double the rest 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.240 of the SEC combined. How does this to you compare 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.720 to some of the great individual classes we've seen through 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.560 I mean, you've been covering recruiting for now decades. I 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.800 assume you know we have tw I think it was 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.720 two thousand and four USC, the Whitney Lewis year. You know, 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.600 there have been some extraordinary classes. Florida has had great 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.320 individual classes. How does this compare to the top of 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:10.280 the top of the top? 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.520 I mean this is up there because you've got seven 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.040 of twenty four SEVENS rankings alone, You've got seven of 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.199 the top twenty three players in the country, so almost 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.079 a third of the a little bit more than a 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.000 third of the lesson the fourth I'm not great in math, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.600 but the top twenty five players in the country are 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.840 all heading to Georgia. But then there's even more talent 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.520 after that top end group of guys. But you've got 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.080 a franchise quarterback in justin Fields, You've got a franchise 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.199 running back into mere White. You've got the best tackle, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.320 the best player in the state of Tennessee, and kid Maye. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.280 You've got Bren Cox from in State. You've got Trey Hill, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.280 who he and Jamari Sawyer are probably six hundred and 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.760 fifty pounds of just absolute nastiness at the guard position. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.160 Tyson Campbell, who was probably second best corner on his 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.280 own team, and he's the number two corner in the 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.480 country playing with Patrick's certain Adam Anderson, who will probably 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.920 be the guy that we're not gonna hear from right 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.600 off the bat, but in three years from now, people 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.199 are gonna be like, wait a second, this guy was 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.199 on their roster all these years because he's only about 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.959 six four, two hundred and fifteen and twenty pounds as an 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.160 outside linebacker. But that's the guy that ends up being 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.600 that two hundred and fifty pass rusher when he gets 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:17.080 to Georgia. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.160 So this class is just insane. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.200 Where it looked like they might have even been done today, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.160 It looked like they may not have had any room 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.559 for guys, and then they pull in kway Walker, they 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.640 get Tommy Bush out of Texas to announce for them, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.440 and they already had look forward one of the top 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.160 tight ends of the country, James Kuk Dalvin's younger brother 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.040 was already on board. So you look at what this class, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.680 you just didn't think it could get much stronger from 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.960 what they signed in December. And then alas Kirby Smart 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.320 ends up pulling in an even better signing day just 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.600 because of how few spots are left in the caliber 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.160 of the players he's bringing in that signed today. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.880 Let's go back west, just because I brought up USC 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.080 briefly with an older class. But it's I mean, another year, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.880 another afternoon of USC closing an incredible fashion, a huge class. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:05.880 I don't believe, but we have. You mentioned JT. Daniels, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.280 the reclassified pro style quarterback who look like to be 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.560 the best player perhaps in the class. Next year he 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.360 comes in and he'll immediately compete Warren G's kid is 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.040 an elite corner. This class doesn't seem like it might 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.839 even be done. I don't even know what to make 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.120 of this USC class. How does it compare not just 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.760 to previous USC classes, but just in terms of talent? 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.360 What is the context that we should be looking at 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.440 this USC close in? 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.160 Well, mean, if you just look at where they finished 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.920 in the rankings in the state of California, they finished 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.040 with six of the top eight players in the state. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.680 That includes the top quarterback in the West, the top 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.880 receiver in the West, the top two. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:42.800 Corners in the West. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.840 They add the top inside linebacker in the West from 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.679 the state of Nevada and pala Ie Gatote. Then they 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.960 get the top inside linebacker from California. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.199 They get the top. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.480 Interior linement from the West, and justin debt it, they 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.240 get the top player from Oregon in Talanoa Hufunda. And 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.040 it's not just California where they did well. They go 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.720 into Oregon and they take Tollano who from that they 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.400 flipped Elijah Winston yesterday, who was a four star linebacker. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.520 We've been committed to Oregon where his brother Lamar was 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.840 a starter. Then they go into Nevada and they get 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.840 pala Ea Gaiotot and he's been committed for almost a year, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.760 probably the best defensive player in the West the last 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.200 two years when the pads are on on Friday nights. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.720 And that doesn't even include some of the other guys 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.920 that make this class such a strong group. Cut in 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.480 that second level, guys like Devon Williams, who was a 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.560 top one hundred player. Oregon really wanted him and then 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.560 he announced for USC. Today they get one of the 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.880 top JUCO players in the nation in Caleb Trembley, who 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:44.800 committed just shortly after the December signing period. So USC's 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.719 closed really it started when JT. Daniels decided he was 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.240 going to reclassify it. Then they get Almon Ross Saint 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.880 Brown at the Army Bawl, and then today Leyland Williams ISAA, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.400 Taylor Stewart and Elijah Griffin. We thought USC's closed last 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.760 year was pretty impressive, but yes year it might have 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:01.640 even been more. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.840 So starting with UCLA. And this might not be your answer, 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.520 but starting with the Bruins rank the biggest threats moving 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:13.599 forward in the PAC twelve in terms of staffs, teams, programs, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.440 whatever that can be a threat to USC in terms 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.680 of collecting talent, And I say that seeing that UCLA 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.560 put together a pretty nice class all things considered, with 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.760 a new coach in the early signing period and a 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.440 sort of mess of talent going everywhere, how do you 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.480 rank the teams in the PAC twelve at this point? 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.000 Yeah, I mean you have to say UCLA is definitely 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.080 a threat to them, largely because it's in their backyard 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.080 and they're going to be recruiting from the similar pool 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.120 of players in southern California, and obviously I think Chip 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.640 Kelly and his staff will will do a better job 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.640 of recruiting southern California than Jim Mora his staff had 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.920 done the last couple of years when it started to 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.960 appear that they had to focus much more nationally. But 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.760 I think the biggest threat to USC right now in 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.640 terms of the overall staff and the overall recruiting actors 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.680 plus the results in the field, is the University of Washington, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.920 and that's because Washington is now really established themselves and 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:12.120 probably given Stanford they've had great classes with, Stanford has 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.560 to recruit so much differently. They only have two sigees 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.120 from the state of California. Washington comes into southern California 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.680 and gets a lot of guys that USC wanted, slips 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.920 to the two that got Sanoah, who was from conquerd 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.240 Daala South committed to USC back in April, then flip 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.120 to Washington this week. But the bigger one was going 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.160 to getting Brandon Caho out of Reno. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:32.120 He ended up being the. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.360 Number one player in the state of Nevada, five star 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.680 player who was essentially down to USC, Alabama and Washington. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.360 Despite being a BYU commit. The Huskies get him and 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.680 then Julia Servant. He commits his dad, who was a 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.760 former Los Angeles RAM. A lot of people want him 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.640 to stay in southern California, and Urban takes Washington over 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.359 USC and Alabama. So Chris Peterson is no longer recruiting 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.440 just in the state of Washington. He's still getting the 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.640 top players from Washington, but now he's going into northern California. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.720 He's coming into southern California. He's going toe to toe 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.120 with USC for key guys, and he's winning those battles. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.960 And as long as the Huskies continue to contend in 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.880 the Pac twelve North and continue to put guys out 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.080 early in the draft, I think that's going to help 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.520 them really give USC a run for their money when 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.760 it comes to recruiting, because they also have that Northwest 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.000 base that they can recruit from, and they also have 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.400 a lot of good success in Northern California, largely because 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.040 Chris Peterson's from there and a couple of key recruiters 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.120 are also Northern California native. So I think Washington and 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.560 UCLA probably give USC the most threat right now and 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.240 in Oregon is going to eventually. I think, you know, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:42.880 continue to recruit southern California more rather than focusing nationally 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.720 that they did a little bit under WILLI Taggert and 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.920 then Arizona. This class is not a great classifyer Arizona standards, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.080 but partly because the majority of it signed when rich 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.360 Rodriguez is still the coach in December. But we know 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.440 what kind of recruiter Kevin Solan is and you give 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.560 him a full year worth of recruiting. I think Arizona's 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.560 going to see their class as send in the future. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.720 You mentioned Stanford briefly. I just want to touch on 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.480 them for a moment. You look at their class, it's 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:10.200 a smaller class, only fifteen signees. I think according to 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.000 your latest Composite rankings, you've got them at number thirty 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.560 nine nationally. Had a big signing today with Tanner McKee 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.280 the highest rated quarterback still on the board. I feel 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.120 like we've seen this song and dance before from Stanford. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.960 Is it a concern, Should it be a concern or 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.760 is it just more of the same from Stanford? 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.040 I think it is more of the same. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.119 Remember a year ago they signed a smaller class, but 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.520 three of the top six players in the country all 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.639 ended up at Stanford, and that was Foster Cerril, Walker Little, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.879 and Davis Mills. Walker Little ends up being a freshman 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.560 All American this year as a left tackle. Then you 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.160 got Foster Serril coming down the pike, and plus Davis Mills. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.440 You know who knows that kJ Castillo holds onto that 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.879 job if Mills will play for a while. They go 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.520 back a year later. They don't sign a big class, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.399 but it's a strong class. Obviously, Tanner McKee is the 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.760 crown jewel in that class, if you that's my opinion. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.760 The problem is they're not going to even get him 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.119 on campus until twenty twenty because he's immediately planned to 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.040 serve his LDS mission. They got Michael Wilson from Shawman 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.639 out of high school and he's the only other in 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.320 state player that Stanford got in this class. So they 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:17.240 did a lot more national recruiting and really didn't recruit 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.960 the West as hard as they have in the years past. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.440 But it also, you know, they have to recruit from 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.200 a different pool of candidates than the rest of the 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:24.720 pack twelve. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.080 So if there's not a lot of. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.119 Great combinations of students plus football players out west. Then 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.240 they have that broad appeal where they can go to 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.359 the East Coast, they can go to the Southeast, they 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.879 can go to the Midwest. And even though it's not 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.359 a huge class, I think it ended up being the 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.639 third based on average, the third or fourth best class 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.480 in the Pac twelve from the average ranking of their players. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.480 Brandon, I would imagine Oregon fans, who I definitely do 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.520 not speak all for, but might be disappointed with how 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.960 this second signing day or the late signing day or 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.520 the normal signing day ended up because a lot of 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:03.080 the decommitments from the Willie Taggart recruiting class ultimately didn't 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.280 return back to Eugene. You know, Miles Battle went to Ole, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.760 Miss Trehawn Harrison followed Willy Taggert to Florida State. Devon Williams, 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.920 who I didn't decommit, but a lot of people thought 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.800 he was going to perhaps end up in Eugene. Spin 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.880 things positively for me and Oregon fans on a day 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.040 that wasn't necessarily the best. 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.080 Well, I will say the one thing that you know 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.399 as bad as today when like you said, you know, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.280 Joshawn Harrison picking Florida State. I was at his announcement 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.080 this morning. I was periscoping it and the comments were 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.800 quite comical and they were coming feverishly. There was a 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.720 lot of anger being spit between Oregon and Florida State 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:40.240 fans there. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:42.840 But then you got Devin Williams. 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.879 That goes to USC, Michael Uziki who wasn't organ to 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.119 commit an Sducla. But then it's all about how you end, 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.679 and they end the day by getting Pinay Sewell, who 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.680 they'd been waiting months for. It looked at times during 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.679 the summer that pine Sewell was going to commit there. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:57.640 It looked at times during the fall he was going 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.760 to commit there. He took all his official visits in 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.480 time for the early December signing period, decided not to announce, 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.880 and then here we are on signing day, and really 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.879 the last announcement of the day out west was today. 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.200 He's the number one offense alignment in the West. He 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.200 can play tackle, he can play guards, He's a fantastic 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.200 offensive lineman. And I think that that is definitely the 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.800 way they needed to end this day because it was 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.440 going down the road and it kind of started with 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.399 Miles Battle committing to Ole Miss and then losing other guys, 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.680 But it was looking like it was going to be 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.000 a very depressing end of the road for Oregon. But 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.760 then they ended by getting the best offensive lineman in 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:36.840 the West. And that's the team that the guy that 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:39.879 they beat Alabama for that they beat USC four and 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.400 then Utah obviously was trying to keep him close to home. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.200 But again I mentioned this sarily with Washington. When you 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.480 can beat Alabama and USC for recruit that's huge, and 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.480 Oregon ends the day by getting Finay Sewel And I 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.080 think that that it is one way to spin it 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.680 to say, you know what, considering they lost an entire 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.320 recruiting weekend before the early signing period, and they lost 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.720 a lot of key commit down to Willie Tagger or 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:03.920 to other schools in the South. 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.399 To end it with Senase who will definitely get that 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:07.680 bitter case. 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.639 Out of their mouth fair enough. And I was talking 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.400 to our pal Yogi Roth about this, who is convinced 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.440 this is the best quarterback class that the Pac twelve 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.119 or Pac ten has ever signed in a season. And 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.800 you've been covering the conference when it had ten teams 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:27.840 and twelve teams. Does that ring true to you. Obviously, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, Washington, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:32.000 Utah all pulling blue chip quarterbacks. I'm sure I'm forgetting somebody, 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.600 But is the level of quarterback entering the PAC twelve 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:36.440 really that high? 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.520 I do think it is, because it wasn't just those schools. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.960 It's also you know, Washington State grabs a four star 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.720 record setting quarterback from Utah and cam and Cooper, and 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.840 then you know, you already throw in the fact that 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:52.240 you've got J. T. Daniels reclassifying, You've got Jacobson transferring in. 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.560 You have Washington landing a pair of four stars. Oregon 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:56.920 State goes and gets a kid. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.800 Who was criminally under recruited last year after being the 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.200 white Washington State player of the Year, decided. 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.560 To go to the JUCO route and ends up picking 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.679 Ardent State. So I look at this. 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:09.040 Class depth wise, and I think that the Pac twelve 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:13.080 top to bottom hasn't had a quarterback class quite this 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.119 strong in some time. And I think a lot of 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.480 that's attributed to the emphasis at this conference place is 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:21.080 on finding quarterback. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:21.679 I think a lot of. 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.120 Attributed to the fact that the West typically produces more 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.320 quarterbacks per capita. I mean this those look like a 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.280 great year for Georgia considering Fields and Lawrence. But I 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.200 think if you look at the West, there were a 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.760 lot of quarterbacks in this class that I think were 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.040 guys that they're not cliped forward holder Tis. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:40.240 There's some years where you. 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.920 Have top quarterbacks, but they're the top based on the 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.120 context of that class, but they're guys that you don't 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.920 never expect to be starters. I'm looking at this PAC 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:52.040 twelve class right now, and between JT. Daniels, Darian Thompson 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.480 Robinson alone, you've got a couple of potential future starters there. 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.800 Tanner McKee probably starts for Stanford at some point. You know, 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.280 Tyler shuk could be the guy who's next in line 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.800 to take over for Justin Herbert at Oregon. And then 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.920 you have the transfer that Jacob Eeson, he could be 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.040 the next guy Jake Browning, or it's one of the 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.920 two freshmen you have Jack Coletto at Oregon State, who 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:12.400 is going to be expected to come in a play 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.600 right away. So I think Yogi is definitely onto something 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.159 by saying that this is one of the best classes 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.919 because of the depth of the talent, the quarterback position. 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.159 Real quick, Brandon, before we move over to the Big twelve. 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.240 It was sort of a running joke on this show 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.200 when Herm Edwards came over to ASU and tried to 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:36.200 implement this new model for recruiting, for building the ASU program. 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:41.119 How is that going? Is that working on the recruiting side? 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.760 What are people saying about what HERM Edwards is doing 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:44.520 in Tempe? 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.120 Well, aside from all the Herm Edwards is that we're 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.440 going to be blessed with over the next few years. 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:54.560 Believe it or not, ASU close really strong. They're number 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.720 thirty six in the country. They had one of the 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.800 smallest classes back in December. But here we are on 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.920 National signing Day and they landed three four stars today 0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:06.040 and two highly ranked three stars to close this out. 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.240 And I think one of the things that as did 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.359 that was really smart. One of the things that Edwards 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.680 did that was smart was he went and hired some 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.480 assistant coaches who understood recruiting. One of those was Tony White, 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.680 who'd probably been the best recruiter in the Mountain West 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.159 over the last decade. A couple of times he was 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.400 a mount and West recruiter of the Year. Really helped 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.400 build the San Diego State program from a recruiting standpoint, 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.159 they hire him and then Antonio Pears. Now he's never 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.160 been a college coach before, but he'd been the head 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.080 coach at Lombach probably for the last couple of years. 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.280 He'd been a part of the Nike Opening Tour, so 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.200 he was traveling to the Nike Openings around the country. 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.720 He'd worked at the Nike Opening Finals, but he coached 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.920 at the school that's produced more NFL players than any 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.200 other school in the country. And then to top it off, 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.720 his own son was recruited two years ago. He's playing 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.520 at Boise State now he's a starter there. So Antonio 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.960 Pierce understands it as a high school coach, he unders 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.560 understands it as a father, and understands it as a 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.080 guy who went through the recruiting process as a JUCO player. 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.960 And so they kind of turned into Pierce loose in 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.240 southern California. He's a big reason they got Merlin Robinson 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.040 and then the two Long Beach Quality four sad they 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.239 got the Shari Crosswell and Jermaine Lolay. Those were all 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:13.040 because of Antonio Pierce. So if Firm Edwards doesn't quite 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.399 understand what recruiting entails. He at least has hired some 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.639 assistants that completely understand it. And that's going to be 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.800 the surprise when people look at these final rankings, and 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.680 you know, with all the jokes and the chuckles that 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.000 Firm Edwards has produced over these last couple of months, 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.040 they got a class that I don't think other people 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.800 are going to be laughing at because there's some talent 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:31.359 in this class. 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.600 All right, let's move over to the Big twelve. The 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.200 big story in the Big twelve, I think is what 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:39.600 went on in Austin Tom Herman with a huge recruiting hall, 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:44.160 a bigger class, twenty seven guys, nineteen of which came 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.399 from the great State of Texas. A monster back end 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.679 of the recruiting class in Caden Stearns at Safety as 0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.000 well as bj Foster, both of whom are from the 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.120 state of Texas. When you look at what Tom Herman did, 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.600 is this sort of a transformational class that will take 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:00.600 them to the next level. 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.480 There's no question, Because one thing Texas needed to do 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.520 was to get back those kids in the state of Texas. 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.720 It was something that Charlie Shawan had kind of a 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.760 roller coaster a bit. It was something that Mack Brown 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.800 had kind of struggled with towards the end of his regime. 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.560 With Kevin Sumlan starting to become that cheap program in 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.520 the state of Texas, the Holmer's kind of lost their way. Well, 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.080 Herman realized, if you have an entire year to recruit 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.600 these guys as opposed to four or five weeks, which 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.720 he did when he came over from Houston, you're going 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.480 to have that much more success. And so Texas signed 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.520 six of the top seven players from the composite rankings. 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.640 But more importantly, they're at positions where those are guys 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.080 that can come on and make a difference early. You've 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.280 got great defensive backs from Jalen Green, plus the three 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:45.560 headed safety monster with the Marvin Overshawn, Kayden Sterns, bj Foster, 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.879 Foster was fantastic in the under Armour game, Cayden Sterns 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:50.879 with the MVP of the Army ball. And then you 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.480 got Brendan Eagle, the big physical receiver from Texas as well. 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.840 Then you got a couple other corners, DeShawn Jamison and 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.840 Anthony Cooks. So when you're in the Big twelve and 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.920 in a conference that can light up the scoreboard, and 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.680 sometimes people question do they even play defense in the 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.000 Big twelve When you can go and sign six premier 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.359 defensive backs from your own backyard, That's one way. 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:13.880 That kind of helped remedy that situation. 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.800 So I think Texas and obviously Tom Herman understanding the 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.960 importance of recruiting in state, they're going to kind of 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.520 see that trend continuing in years in the future, because again, 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.159 I think it's going to be cool again to go 0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:29.840 to Texas for those in state kids. 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.000 What did Tom Herman do outside of maybe hiring some 0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.840 guys who understand Texas better than the previous regime, because look, 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.960 the results on the field were here and there wasn't 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.760 necessarily a giant leap forward for Herman in the twenty 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.480 seventeen season, But now you look at the recruiting class 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:48.959 and clearly he has done something right. 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.760 What changed again, I think part of it was getting 0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.680 those two years at Houston, And what really helped there 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.440 is because Houston, you know, as good of a Group 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.240 of five program as it is, it doesn't necessar really 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.240 have that national appeal that a lot. 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:04.399 Of Power five schools have. 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.720 And so while Texas and Texas A and M have 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.280 the ability to recruit outside the state Houston, you. 0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.320 Kind of have to focus on the in state kids. 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.440 So what he did when he went from Ohio State 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:18.320 to Houston is really focused on developing great relationships with 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.480 the high school coaches in the state of Texas, whether 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.720 those were Houston area coaches, whether those were Dallas area coaches, 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.600 whether they were coaches in San Antonio and all around 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.639 the Lone Star state. He did a good job of 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.119 really developing those relationships even though he was just a 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.960 Houston at the time, so that when that Texas job 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.720 came open, those relationships had already been established. This wasn't 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.440 like Charlie Strong coming from Florida and then Louisville and 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.680 now being thrown into the pit of Texas and trying 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.120 to recruit against you know, at that time in Art Briles, 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.680 at that time at Cliff Kingsbury, you know who's at 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.320 Texas Tech. Guys who have had experience that understood what 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.280 Texas football recruiting was like. And even when Kevin Fumblin, 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.800 when Charlie Strong got there, Kevin Summan has things really 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.040 going strong at that point. Well, now Herman has those 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.120 two years to kind of lay in the weeds, getting 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.960 to know the local coaches, getting to know the local talent. 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.680 So when he made the move to the Flaship University, 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.080 he already had those relationships established and he understood what 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.080 it meant to recruit the state of Texas. So I 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.880 think that those two years very much an underrated aspect 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.240 of why he has has had the quick success to 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.520 success as a recruiter in state. 0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.360 All Right, now, with Texas behind us, let's move on 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.920 to the class of the conference. The premier team in 0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.480 the Big Twelve. The Iowa State Cyclones did a really 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.680 nice no, well, actually, Iowa State did actually do a 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.880 really nice job this year. But let's talk Oklahoma because they, 0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.760 I would say a little bit quietly because what everybody 0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.640 sort of was paying attention to with Oklahoma was they 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.160 had a phenomenal season. They win the conference, They have 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.760 a terrific Rose Bowl that comes up just short for 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.560 the for the Sooners, but this is an excellent class. 0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.720 They addressed defensive line issues. If anybody saw that game, 0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.040 they that you know there was some work to be 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.800 done up front. They get a blue chip quarterback, they 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.840 get a great corner, they get an unbelievable offensive tackle. 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.400 This Oklahoma class looks to be as good as recent 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.480 Sooner classes, and they didn't seem to rely like on 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.800 recent years going into California as much. What is it 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:19.520 about this Oklahoma class that stands out? 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.400 You know? I think I like the fact that there 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.400 is a heavy focus on the Midwest and on the Midlands. 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.320 There's a couple of guys, you know, they go down 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.400 into IMG. Now both of you guys are originally from 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.880 southern California with Bookie Radley Hiles and TJ. Pledger, But 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.360 they were at IMG and they were able to get 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.000 Pledger to commit early and then hold off a lot 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.680 of school's making a late charge. Bookie Radley Hiles has 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.560 originally committed in Nebraska and then when that program kind 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.000 of imploded under Mike Riley, he came back on the market. 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.560 Oklahoma got him, They went over to Missouri, they got 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.960 Ronnie Perkins from over there. They went down into Texas, 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.680 they got some key guys. But really, to me, what 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.920 was the most impressive part was keeping the two best 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.520 players in the state of Oklahoma, offensive lineman bray Walker, 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.160 who I watched him both at the US Armel American 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.600 Bowl and then at the Polynesian Bowl, and he will 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.640 remind Oklahoma fans this is comparisons that made a bunch, 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.120 But he reminds me of Orlando Browanns, who I saw 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.560 at the Central Fidelis game his senior year. Big massive guy, 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.360 great walker for the six seven, three hundred and twenty pounds, 0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.320 moves like he's so light on his steed and he's 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.880 just a monster. He's a big kid, and he's not 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:25.720 even the biggest off at the tackle. They got in 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.560 this class because they went down to Texas and got 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.520 Darryl Simpson who's six seven, three hundred and forty pounds. 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.240 So they did a good job of recruiting that kind 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.280 of that Midlands part of the country, both in Oklahoma 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.320 and down to Texas, going over to Missouri to get 0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.640 some tey guys, and then just kind of being very 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.120 selective with the players they got outside of the Midland regions, 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.200 a couple of kids from Florida, a couple of kids 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:50.400 from California, and really making that focus being kind of 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:53.440 that middle part of the country where they really have 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.520 pass of success in the years past with Missouri. 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.360 Obviously in state and Oklahoma and then still grabbing key 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:00.560 guys from the state of Texas. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.080 Is there a class in the Big twelve and the 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.320 conferences in this I mean, in a compliment, it's so specific. 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.520 You know, you know what you're getting with West Virginia football. 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.040 You know what Texas Tech is going to look like, 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.320 you know what TCU is going to be, just stylistically 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.320 and the type of kids, the size and speed, the 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.320 athleticism that they're able to attract. Is there a class 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.240 in the Big twelve that you know might not be 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.320 top fifteen or top twenty, but you look at overall 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.040 what they were able to attract and in your mind 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.120 you think, man, a lot of these guys are going 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.480 to succeed because they made great decisions about where their 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.720 talent matches up with what coach, school system, et cetera. 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.840 Yeah, I mean Iowa State really good class. I think 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.680 you know, this year was obviously a pretty exciting year 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.920 for Iowa State fans with what Matt Campbell was able 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.760 to do, with some of the wins that he was 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.640 able to pull off. They kind of sneakily signed it 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.520 a very good class. Got a couple of quarterbacks, one 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.400 Rail Mitchell led Saint John Bosto to a state championship 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.400 game his junior year, and then a senior got banged up. 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.960 They came up short a speed, a guy who's a 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.640 true duel threat. His mom was a former American gladiator. 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.360 He's already on campus. And then they got rock Furry, 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.960 who was kind of under recruited to a lappable sense 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.360 up until mid December. Only offer was Northern Arizona and 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.120 then Boise stayed offer. Well, he doesn't sign in in December. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.880 The next tho, rock Furry is choosing between Alabama, Texas, 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.560 A and M and Iowa State, but he ended up 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.240 picking Iowa State because he felt that comfort level there. 0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:27.720 So they got a couple of pretty good quarterbacks there. 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.480 But you know, Matt Campbell did a good job. He 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.040 went into Ohio, He's got some roots, got Joseph Skate, 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.040 a four star receiver from up there. He got some 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.920 good juco guys that could come in and play right away. 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.760 And so Iowa State's not necessarily a school you think 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.320 is going to be able to recruit nationally, but they 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.959 actually did a good job of recruiting nationally. And then 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.040 the one that has become everybody's favorite, punching bag for 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.040 the last few years, and that's Kansas. 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.600 And what the most remarkable thing about. 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.720 Kansas is they went into the state of Louisiana got 0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:01.240 two four star defense all purpose back, defensive back, four 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.440 star guys that had plenty of SEC offers. Not only 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.360 do they get those guys to commit, they held on 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.600 to them because when they committee, I think everybody was like, Okay, yeah, 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.040 that's cute. Kansas got their commitments. But when they really 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.000 start getting recruited, then we'll see what really happened. These 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.400 guys doubled down on their commitment to Kansas. Anthony Williams 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.480 and Curry and Harris, both the New Orleans area. 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.240 Kids, and they stuck with the Jayhawks. 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:24.799 And so you look at their class and you look 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.040 at the ranking of where they stand in the Big Twelve, 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.239 and it's kind of surprising because we're not used to 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.600 seeing Kansas beating up that high. But sure enough, Kansas 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.680 there with the number eight class in the conference and 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.799 two four stars seventeen three stars by Kansas standards. That's 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.040 the kind of class that you really need to have 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:44.640 if you want to get out of the goldens of 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.360 the Big Twelve and just try to look competitive. 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.560 Let's close out the Big Twelve. I want to talk 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.080 about TCU. I can never seem to accurately project TCU 0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.680 when you look at the recruiting class. Did Gary Patterson 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.640 do a good job here? I've heard from a couple 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:03.520 people who feel like it's a sneaky good class. How 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:04.560 does it stack up to you? 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.160 It's the number three class in the Big Twelve, behind 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.200 Texas and Oklahoma, and really, with the way Texas and 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.520 Oklahoma recruit, finishing as the number three classes almost like 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.000 finishing first when you compare it to the rest of 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:16.520 the conference. 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.319 And that's what TCU is. It's heavy on in state kids. 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.799 But they went over into Louisiana, got a four star 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.920 duel threat quarterback and Justin Rodgers he signed a December. 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.880 He's already on the field, I'm sorry, already on campus. 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.440 And then they kind of spread out a little bit 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.080 and got a few more players out of Louisiana. And 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.520 then they went into Mississippi, which you kind of expect 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.759 because a little bit more close. But then they have 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.040 a guy from really by backyard. We live on the 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.239 same hill. His daughter and his sister and my daughter 0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.320 go to school together. Ben Wilson, a four star linebacker 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.560 from Sumner, Washington who had a bunch of tacked roll 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.879 boxers that went down, fell in love with what Gary 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.360 Patterson does as a coach, home in love with what 0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.520 CAC is doing as a program. TCU doesn't really need 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.920 to recruit the West Coast all that much, but that's 0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.160 two years in a row that TCU has gone into 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.280 Washington and grabbed the kid and grabbed the Pac twelve 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:08.200 commit So you know, Gary Patterson decides that he wants 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.480 to expand kind of his recruiting at a little bit. 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.160 I think that could give some problems to the Texas 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.160 and Oklahoma's because he's starting to really show that longevity 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.000 and he's not going or no matter how many times 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.360 like Mark Few, no matter how many times he's mentioned 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.080 with every other head coaching job, he just continues to 0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.600 plug the way down there at TCU. And I think 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.040 that that success that hadn't the Big twelve in the 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.439 last few years is allowing him to recruit a little 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.280 bit more nationally if he so chooses. 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.120 All right again, his name is Brandon Huffman. You could 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.880 find him now at twenty four seven Sports. Just to 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.880 round out your composite top ten here before we let 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:47.240 you go, talked a lot about Georgia, but Ohio State, Texas, 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:53.080 USC Penn State rounds out the top five, followed by Clemson, Alabama, Miami, Oklahoma, 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.480 and Notre Dame branded Throughout the entire recruiting cycle, was 0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.439 there any one story, anyone recruit something that you looked 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.600 at and you said, Wow, that's that's an exciting story 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:07.279 to follow, You know, I. 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:11.120 Would probably say it's the one thing that And it's 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.120 kind of happened in the last two days. This Australian 0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.200 kid that Utah got a commitment. He's actually the first 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.960 guy to sign on National Signing Day because it was 0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.759 nighttime last night in Australia was more or in the 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.640 US with the morning time in Australia. A kid named 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:29.080 Thomas Yasman. He's a childhood kind of a schoolboy rugby 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:33.080 star in Australia, had never played football before, and Utah 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.719 goes in, brings him in on an official visit and 0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.920 they end up signing him. The guy's never played football 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.160 and now a Pac twelve school, a Power five program 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.560 is bringing him in, not as a specialist, not as 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.680 a kicker, or a punter, but to be an outside 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.759 linebacker slash defensive end. And so you kind of had 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.720 some boring storylines. And then boom, Utah goes and hires 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.200 one of the Signs, one of the best young rugby 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.879 players in the world who'd never played football. And now 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.960 you just know how it works in Utah. This is yeah, 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.520 being like or four year starter and end up being 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.280 an NFL draftic. It's all gonna be because Kyle Willingham 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.320 is smart enough to know, Hey, let's go down to 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.600 Australia and find some of these rugby players. 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.000 Incredible all right again, his name Brandon Huffman. Find them 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.560 over at twenty four to seven brand that. I know 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.200 it's been a long day for you, but as always, 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.719 a tremendous job just imbibing all this knowledge. I don't 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.799 know how you do it and reciting it to us 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.560 in a way that makes sense. So thank you so much. 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.400 Hey, thanks guys, thanks for having me, and we'll do 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.160 it again next year for sure, all. 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:32.120 Right, Dan, So thanks again to Brandon Huffman m HM 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.120 for stopping by for imparting some of his wisdom on us. 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.759 While Bud Elliott gets situated in the studio want to 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.640 tell you about our two sponsors for this evening, both 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.480 of which you've heard a lot about, but we keep 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.040 talking about him because we're so excited about proper Cloth. 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.919 Oh my god, proper Cloth. You were at a wedding. 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:55.960 How was the proper Cloth shirt for you? Did it 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:57.719 work again? 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There's multiple platforms. There's video, 0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:45.000 there's audio, buds, buds and Mogul tie and I'm wearing 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.839 a hat, really wearing wearing a hat right now? 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:49.239 How you doing, man? 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:50.600 Oh buddy, doing well? 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:51.160 Do well? 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:51.359 Man? 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.279 Just you know, closing out signing day. Good signing days 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.600 as sort of opposed two years past with you know, 0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:59.759 what's the difference to you in terms of how today 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.879 has gone with the early signing period in mid December. Yeah, 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.000 a little bit less hectic. I think in general, our 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.239 audience on Inspianation I always think about it is a 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.920 little bit more of a casual recruiting audience because from 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:16.960 my perspective, if you're a crazy recruiting die hard, you're 0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.600 probably paying a subscription to one of the sites, right, 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.400 so you use us to supplement maybe, you know, you 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.400 get your ten thousand foot view of things. So a 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.040 lot of I think our fans, some of them probably 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.759 didn't know there was an early signing period, but in 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.319 the future years, I think they probably will. It's been 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.760 an interesting day, a little bit less hectic than previous 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:40.360 signing days. But the early signing period also creates this 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.960 dynamic where you know, instead of being at like an 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.360 eleven on National Signing Day, you're kind of at like 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.680 an eight for six weeks, you know, starting write poor 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.440 Christmas with the early period and then rolling up into this. 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.239 And it's also shifted the recruiting calendar. You know, I've 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.080 had to look at twenty nineteens and twenty twenties earlier 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.760 than I normally think I will, right fair, So diving 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:07.040 into twenty eighteen, which is now old. Is there a 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:15.600 story beyond Georgia's class is filthy and borderline unprecedented. I 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.880 think the main takeaways are, like you said, George's class, 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:20.800 and when I say filthy, I mean that in a 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:24.120 good way. Just to be clear, I mean Georgia signed 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.000 I think they signed more five stars in the rest 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:27.959 of the SEC put together. 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.200 Yeah, they had seven, seven five stars. They doubled the 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.120 s the SEC. The rest SC had three total. 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:38.880 Georgia had seven total just today are yeah, Yeah, that's ridiculous. 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:41.960 I mean, we're literally talking about this Georgia class on 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.680 paper as one of the best classes of all time, 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:46.480 you know, with with some of those USC and saying 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.040 classes with one of those Urban Meyer classes. You know, 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:52.320 I think it was the year they signed Serie Floyd 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:56.080 and those guys. They just did a tremendous job. The 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.480 other thing I think is the to borrow like a 0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:02.480 Fantasy baseball term here sort of the Stars and Scrubs element. 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.520 In talking to coaches, what you hear is, you know 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:07.520 a lot of our best targets are still out there 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.680 after the early signing period, but there's not that like 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.879 just you know, high quality player, we can go get 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.759 the drop off like so many of these, like let's 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.920 just call them good players they signed early. You know, 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.280 look at a Minnesota or a Toledo or a suttern 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.400 miss or a TCU. They signed a lot of kids 0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.320 that I feel like a lot of programs really wanted 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.839 to wait right and just hey man, look we don't 0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:35.440 overgra space for you. But like so you know in 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.800 talking like three star with four star flashes, yeah, exactly it. 0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.839 Plan a's were still there, but like there weren't enough 0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.759 Plan b's and Plan c's and Plan d's. A lot 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.400 of this is like Plan A and Plan F. It 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.279 really is kind of the Stars and Scrubs approach. You know, 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.360 the pay in seventy five bucks for Mike trout of 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.959 auction and fill out the rest of your your auster 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:56.200 with one dollar players. That's been a big time difference, 0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.600 and I think we are seeing and as recruiting media, 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.759 we have to be watched this, like the profiles of 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.120 these kids being elevated because they didn't sign right, Like, 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:08.160 there's no question on these three stars are getting more 0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.720 attention than otherwise would. Okay, so let's talk about Georgia, 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.680 because Georgia has a class that if we're going to 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.880 be specific, and it's very hard to be specific with 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.160 so much talent, this looks to be the best offensive 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.400 line class in the country, especially inside. They've got a 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:24.719 pair of guards I believe who are outstanding. They may 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.920 have the best quarterback in the country. They may have 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.120 what the best running back in the country. They may 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.600 have the best outside linebacker in the country. Where is 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.600 this class particularly strong? Who are the names that people 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:36.560 listening to the show, even if they're not a Georgia fan, 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.160 will know sooner rather than later. Okay, justin Fields, who 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.960 I've compared to a taller, bigger Russell Wilson in terms 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.200 of playing style and ability. He's also a baseball guy, 0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.719 so I think the comp fits, sir. In terms of style. 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.520 I'm not saying he's quite as talented. He may be 0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.239 more talented physically, but Russell Wilson's pretty good. 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:53.520 Right. 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.160 Zamir White was by far the best running back in 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.959 the country this year. He towards ACL late in the season, 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.320 but when he was healthy, he was like the no 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.760 doubt guy at running back. Cad Mays is an elite 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.400 level office a tackle And it should be said, by 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.200 the way, if I can jump in, we're talking about 0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.080 two excellent running backs gone from Georgia. Yeah, so that 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:13.440 is a wide open backfield. 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:13.799 See. 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.399 I mean they've recruited in the last couple of years, 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.360 but there's gonna be big competition. If Zamir White is healthy, 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:20.160 you're not gonna be able to keep him off the field, right, 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.879 He's going to get carries. They signed Dalvin Cook's little brother, 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.120 James Cook, as more of an all purpose type back. 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.240 Good hands catch the ball to the backfield. Their combination 0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.680 of guards in Trey Hill and Jamari Sailor is probably 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.719 the best pair of guards I've ever seen a team sign. 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:34.000 Wow. 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:39.160 They got Newt Wilson out of Miami, who was a 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:43.080 pretty nice like dB signing. Brenton Cox is an elite 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.840 level defensive end. Tyson Campbell is the most athletic corner 0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.640 in the country, and he's also six'. Three Adam anderson 0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:56.560 is a freakish outside linebacker at A, Rome. Georgia just awesome. 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.840 PLAYER i really Like Channing, tendall a guy who is 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.320 rated outside the national top, hundred WHICH i think is. 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.200 NUTS i Mean i've seen him a couple of times in. 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:08.759 PERSON i like him a. Lot their tight End Luke 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:12.680 ford is a baller AND i love his competitive. SPIRIT 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.400 i mean he just. Goes he CAN i cuss on, here, 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.319 yeah go for. It he just talks. Shit it gets 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.400 up in everybody's, face immediately love it and backs it up. 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.480 Great they Flipped Quay, walker another outside line linebacker From. 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:28.279 Alabama Nadad joseph is a really, nice like developmental long 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.880 corner they got out Of. Miami Norland Azizo jaalai is 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:35.360 a really like nice, long developmental defensive end who can 0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.759 give him a pass. Rush Tommy bush is one of 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:39.960 my favorite receivers in the. CLASS i feel like you 0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:41.759 have your guys that you kind of, Like, HEY i 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.160 see this, kid and he doesn't have big time offers 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.439 yet or not rated highly. Yet i've been tweeting about 0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.000 him for over a. Year ever SINCE i saw him 0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.719 back at The nike camp In houston on a cold 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.319 day on The Super bowl last. Year THAT i can't. 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.719 Beat he stood out, There. Ty you can't, see But 0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:00.840 bud is. Sweating he is getting. Charge it's. Tired you 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.000 want to know About you want to know About Justin? Fields, though, 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:04.120 right we talked about him. 0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.319 BEFORE i, Mean i've brought this up on the show 0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:09.160 a bunch of. Times but from is. There he just 0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:11.840 made it as a true freshman into The National. Championship 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:13.560 why Did Justin fields go To? 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.640 GEORGIA i Think Justin fields thinks it's going to beat him. 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.440 Out it's incredible AND i love. It and, look there's 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.160 no Doubt fields is more talented Than Jake, from better, 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:27.200 arm better, athlete and from is really good college football. 0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.800 Player for, Sure georgia is essentially guaranteed to have like 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:32.960 super elite level quarterback in for the next three or four. 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.879 Years it's an embarrassment of. Riches it's not a bad really, 0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:38.680 have but it seems to me like your true freshman 0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.000 who just got you to The National championship game might 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:45.520 be the odds on starter not only this coming season 0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.960 but for the foreseeable. FUTURE i don't. 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:52.120 Know that's just, me all, right two words to a Tongue. Ailoa, 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.040 okay because Literally Jalen hurts Took bama to the title 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.480 game last year and or two years ago as a true. 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.080 Freshman as a true freshman scores what would have been 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:04.080 the winning touchdown Had Deshaun watson not let his team 0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.640 down the field And tua wasn't. Scared, yeah and there's 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.759 a good Chance georgia five thousand mills went from home 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.799 and signed up for. It at Least justin's sister plays 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:13.839 softball At, georgia and it's right close to his home 0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.320 there In. Atlanta and there's a good chance That georgia 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.160 will put up a lot of points on teams and 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.920 backups will come in And Justin fields will get time 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:25.280 to prove himself in action even if he's not. Starting 0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.400 let's go through some other classes near the. Top tie is. 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.560 There you don't spend thirty minutes On. GEORGIA i just 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.040 don't think we have the. Time we only have the 0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:36.200 studio for a little bit ty elsewhere in THE. Sec 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.920 what fascinates. You we've got just an outstanding resource and butt. Here, 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.200 YEAH i, Mean i'm always interested in how new coaches. 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.800 Fare and we've seen a fair amount of turnover in 0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:49.920 THE sec places Like, florida not just this, year but 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.719 in the last couple of. Years, Right So, florida there's 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.360 been recent turnover AT. LSU i know there was some 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.239 disappointment there with their recruiting. Class But TEXAS a AND. 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.399 M And Jimbo sure a guy you know really, Well Bud, 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:07.120 Tennessee Mississippi, state oll Miss. Arkansas the list goes on 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.759 and on of the new coaches that came into THE. 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:13.640 Sec were there any that impressed you or let you 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.680 down at least through one recruiting. 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:19.480 Cycle let me start by saying, this the early signing 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:23.239 period crushed every single new. Staff, yeah by, far like 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.320 makes every single. One every one of these teams is 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:30.520 below they're LIKE i would say previous four year. Average nobody. Improved, 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.719 YEAH i mean they. HAD i, Mean i'm just in 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:36.640 speaking About. OREGON i Think Mario christobal was made official 0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.239 like three days. Before it's it's tough and at least 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.359 that you, know that's a higher that offre continuity because 0:52:42.680 --> 0:52:44.279 he was already on the. STAFF i, mean these guys 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:47.200 who come in that didn't have any existing. Relationships they 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.000 were scrambling and early. SIGNING i mean some of these 0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.919 guys were having to sign kids like fifteen days after 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:55.560 they got. Hired Jeremy pruit got hired what Like december, tenth, 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:57.120 issue it was pretty late in the. 0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:58.960 Cycle you. 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.040 Know jimo did a real good job AT a and m. 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:02.759 CLOSING i think they're going to make a lot of, 0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:06.040 noise especially in The houston. Area in twenty, Nineteen Dan, 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.240 MILLAN i feel like got some difference makers on offense 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:11.160 with with quarterback Hen Mary jones and Receiver Jacob. Copeland, 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.440 obviously they were disappointed to not Flip nessa severa From 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.160 miami and not Get tete freyre with the five star 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.680 tackle who went To Ohio. State but they also have 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:24.600 two really talented transfers coming in at receiver who could 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:26.800 make a big time difference for The. Gator SO i 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:28.799 know the fans are really disappointed, today BUT i don't 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.279 think that class is as big of a disappointment as 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.160 as Some ofator fans. Thinking and the real KEY i 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.440 think if you are a new coach is you have 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.080 to strike a balance between meeting your numerical needs so 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.160 that you don't get in a situation where your death 0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:46.560 is totally, screwed and also going after enough talented players 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:48.480 to where you can't just take a bunch of. Filler 0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:50.880 that balance is not easy to. Achieve you as a, 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:52.239 Coach i've got to get in here and, Say, okay 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.799 we're pretty good at this, spot this, spot this butt 0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:56.680 in this. Spot so we're only going to take like 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:59.279 our level of player at these positions and in this, 0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.120 spot this, pot in this. Spot, man our depth is not, 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:04.160 good and we have got to just make sure we 0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:05.640 take a body who if we had to put on a, 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:09.319 field he wouldn't be a total, disaster regardless of how 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:11.719 far down we have to go on our. Board pretty much, 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:13.719 SO i think most of the teams did a good 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.640 job with. That tennessee had a disappointing, day but, again 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.920 that's a really hard. Situation ole miss is coming off 0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:23.400 a really difficult situation as. Well Mississippi state kind of 0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:25.600 recruited on part or where they normally. DO i, mean you, 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.000 know six four, stars twenty three, kids that's not too. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:34.120 Bad jimbo did the best job as far as closing 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.000 things out. TODAY i Think mullen did a pretty good 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:39.400 job from the time he was hired fair enough and 0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.960 let's go to the leg as literal elephant in the. 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:46.600 Room alabama wins The National. Championship they lose both, Coordinators 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.560 Brian able to THE, Nfl Jeremy pruitz To. Tennessee there's 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.120 more attrition year over Yere they're losing two to three 0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:55.239 coaches and they still managed to recruit at least this 0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.839 year on a top ten. Level usually it's a top three. 0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:02.160 Level is what is what stands? OUT i guess About 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:05.320 alabama's class this? Year what impressed you beyond the fact, that, like, 0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:07.200 oh they have a ton of talented. Kids what direction 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:07.520 did they? 0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:08.040 Go the? 0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.680 Parentheses, yeah they only took nineteen. Kids, yeah so on 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:14.719 like a per player, AVERAGE i think they're probably second 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:16.400 or third in the nation In George george is gonna Be, 0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.320 Yeah they're they're they're. Averages it's sort of A stanford, 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:22.840 class smaller but a high. Average. Exactly you mentioned it 0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:26.080 that the coaching turnover in back to back YEARS i 0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:27.880 think really Hurt alabama because you had a bunch of 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:31.000 guys come in off last. Years they lost a lot 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.160 of a lot of coaches off that runner up, team 0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:37.000 and they Lost lane and they, lost uh who was 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.839 THE dc? There, well they Lost, LANE i mean had 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.840 been and they lost somebody else to Although Mario cristobaul 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:47.520 right To, Oregon Billy napier To Arizona. States they you, 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:50.440 know obviously this Year Brian, dable like there is year over, 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.960 year they thought they were going to Promote sark to offensive. 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:57.279 Coordinator that like their, connections guys familiar With tuscaloosa and 0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:00.879 their recruiting cycle. Gone the back to back coaches leading 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.319 Like pruitt carried that recruiting class a lot this year 0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.640 and then he takes. OFF i think that that Hurt alabama. 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.239 Some and these kids didn't know The obama coaches like 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.400 they normally. Would And nick's a tremendous, recruiter but it's 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.120 hard for head coach to have personal relationships with, like you, 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:17.840 know sixty top, targets, right and SO i think the 0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.200 turnover there hurt. Them that they really got some good 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:24.040 players though in this. CLASS i mean a nomah of 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:26.800 the defensive end out Of, baltimore out Of Saint Francis. 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:29.920 IS i mean, legit if we didn't have the crazy 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.960 quarterbacks this, year he would be a legitimate argument for 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:33.759 the number one player in the. 0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:34.000 Nation. 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.279 Wow patrick Chan, junior a lot of people think is 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.719 the best corner out Of South florida since a guy 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.000 Named Patrick. Johnson and if l fans AND lsu fans 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.479 might know him As Patrick, peterson, yeah before he changed 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.400 his name. Obviously Stefan wynn is a kid WHO i 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:50.160 think is going to step in and immediately Be he's 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.359 just that, classic like not super, long but six' four 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.960 Three bills bama five tech defensive end and, it's like, 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.040 oh man we just we can't block. That guy they 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.000 just kind of plug. Him in he's that, you know 0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.200 will COACH, At img he'll. Play early and the secret 0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:06.960 sort of Thing about alabama specifically is they pull in 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.719 these blue chip. Defensive backs they don't have to play. 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.440 Right away they get time to sort of season in 0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:16.520 the system with let's, be clear probably the best defensive 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:19.200 backs coach in the Country And. Nick saban so it's 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:21.640 one of those things where they have time to learn 0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.120 and to grow and they're not counted on. Right away 0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.880 and when they are in when they do need to get, 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.200 into games whether it's as a nickelback, or whatever. They're ready. 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.400 They're twenty they're twenty, one ridiculous and the kids they 0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:36.120 did get ARE really i will say that that. Is 0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.200 true they also like the kids they got. Are polished 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.640 you're getting pats or. TANS kid i mean that dude 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.800 was what a Three Time all pro and has been. 0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.920 DRILLED forever i think that's what makes a, special prospect 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:50.320 that he is that polished and he is. THAT big 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.400 i mean he's six one and a half two hundred 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:56.160 and an elite. Level athlete josh job a kid they 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.880 Flipped from miami like a, month ago kind of the. 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.920 Same way just, you, know, big polished ready. To GO 0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:03.720 and i got some good developmental guys. As WELL but 0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.560 i feel like this Is a it's a strong class. 0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.800 For them it's not on par with they, normally sign 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:10.960 but a lot of that is due to. The, size 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.320 sure they didn't take them. Any kids nineteen is. 0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:19.280 Not many another team that we'd be remiss if we 0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:23.240 didn't talk about, their, Story. Obviously clemson clemson's been very 0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:26.320 much on the rise over the last couple. Of years, 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.560 for sure won the national championship year ago in the 0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.840 playoffs again. THIS year I believe i saw bud that 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:35.720 they got the top player from was it six or. 0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.920 Seven states this was quite a Class, for clebs and 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:40.800 it does not appear as if it is slowing down 0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.800 anytime Soon, For, dabosweeney no. 0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.680 CERTAINLY not I Mean, trevor lawrence the number one quarterback in. 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:48.640 THE country, i mean depend on who, you Ask but 0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.480 i'm A big lawrence. Fan too Out. Of Georgia, xavier 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:54.240 THOMAS who i guess technically is the top Player, in 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:57.120 florida although He's A south carolina kid who PLAYED, at 0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:59.120 img so, to me he's kind of like the top 0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.960 Player In. South carolina but still we'll give it. To Him, 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:04.560 kJ henry who was an elite level Player At, north 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.280 carolina big time defense vent who's probably gonna. Play early 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:11.600 number one Player In Ohio. Jackson Carmen ohio state wasn't 0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:13.959 too happy about. Losing him that was the early. Signing, 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:18.240 period yeah You Know, darien kendrick who's a really special playmaker. 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.840 At receiver they also got a Kid Named, justin ross 0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.680 the number one Player in, alabama Arguably who i'm really 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.880 high on, six'. Four two hundred he's, a basketball guy 0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.120 hadn't played a whole, lot of football but the catches 0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:33.000 he makes on his highlight tape just show a natural 0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:36.800 ability to body control and the ability to pluck the ball. 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:38.840 With his hands if you can teach that guy in the, 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:41.680 run some routes then that's going to. Be really scary 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:44.320 and they just did. A great job they're just kind 0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.360 of there are a, lot on numbers but that'll happen, 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.920 when you convinced like several first round picks to return 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:50.800 to school instead. 0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:53.960 Of going pro when you LOOK, across THE acc and 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:55.480 i want To Talk about florida state here, in A 0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.960 second because i know they're of particular, Interest to you 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.560 but when you LOOK, Across, the, Acc bud obviously clemson 1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:04.480 has been the cream of the crop now for a couple. 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:09.040 Of years running just relative to the other SCHOOLS, in 1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:12.720 the acc how do you compare the depth That clemsonto 1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:15.240 A Miami. OF florida state i. 1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:18.440 Think that if clemson had had those, guys go pro 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:22.080 then the rosters would be pretty. Similar talent, Wise, You, 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:25.680 Know Clemson miami florida state roughly that They didn't That 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:30.200 wilkins And bryant And Farrell and mitch hyatt on, the 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.800 off highline but they. ALL come back i Do think 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:36.320 that clemson's roster for twenty eighteen is a step above 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.280 everybody else. In the league having that much talent and 1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:43.640 experience combined is. A big advantage as far as that 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:46.600 their recruiting class against the rest of the, LEAGUE this 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:50.680 year i think at the top end it's, really really 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:52.920 strong and if they can build on that, next year 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.040 too then they're going to be set up to be 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:57.920 like A favorite of cora in the league for. A 1:00:58.000 --> 1:01:02.000 long time MIAMI is Steadily I think willie tagert probably 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:04.080 did the best job out of any first year coach 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.080 as far as salvaging what they had because they were 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:09.439 in The Sixties with jima fisher left and then sort 1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:11.920 of that like high to. MID level range I Like 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:14.360 what nc. State's doing it that's a staff with the 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:17.880 number of young interject cruiter to identifying guys early. Getting 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.640 Them on justin foente is doing. A nice Job vigen 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.200 tech u and c had a very strong bounce back 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:26.200 class after kind of a horrible year. On the Field 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:30.440 they signed Barnes out of florida who was a four. 1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:32.160 OR five star i forgot what his. Final ranking was. 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:34.400 Big time off it's a tackle that they took his. 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:37.840 TEAMMATE as well i believe so that the top half 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:40.240 OF the a sec has done done. A good job 1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:45.000 the bottom half they're just not winning BATTLES against. Their 1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:49.720 sec counterparts just, on that topic there are schools that 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:52.880 are really good at identifying not, high level talent but 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:55.400 talent that, fits really well that looks like they will. 1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:58.080 Develop into something is there anybody in the bottom HALF 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:00.160 of the acc or is that what they need? To 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:02.520 do better they need to be. MORE self Aware I 1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:04.200 think wake forrest is a really good job of that 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:06.880 in a year, in year basis and then we call 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.000 it the sweet. Spot right right if you, aim too 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:10.880 low you won't have enough talent. On your roster if 1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:13.920 you aim too, high and miss then what's? Your backup 1:02:14.000 --> 1:02:16.320 plan the drop off there is. PROBABLY too significant i 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:18.720 think that was something that will Must Champ at south 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:20.920 carolina not to go BACK, to THE sec but i 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:24.360 think year one they aimed a little. Bit, Too high okay, 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:26.680 IN recent years i Feel Like like south carolina has 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:29.760 done a really good job finding. Your, sweet spot hey 1:02:29.840 --> 1:02:31.400 we want to get in on a couple, high level 1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:33.840 kids and at the same time we realize we're not 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:35.520 going to sign a billion high level Kids Because, it's 1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:37.960 south carolina so we need to find other kids who can. 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:41.280 FIT our program i think SOME of, THE see teams 1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:43.720 i don't say they, aim too low but they're just 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:47.800 not bringing in enough elite talent to really. Make a 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:49.840 difference that that's where. The depth is that the teams 1:02:49.840 --> 1:02:52.720 at the TOP of the acc are just as talented 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:55.160 as the teams in the Top Of. The inner league some, of, 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:58.400 these teams though are not bringing in enough four and 1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:02.320 five starter Guys or any, in, SOME cases sure i 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:04.400 will give, you, A name though i want to see if. 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:07.280 This guy signed i'm not sure how, to pronounce this 1:03:08.280 --> 1:03:12.000 but this kid's. Film is Ridiculous, He's. From italy okay 1:03:12.240 --> 1:03:15.120 he Played Ball, at clearwater academy which is about an 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.920 hour and a half. From My House clear Wire International. 1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:22.520 Habout kook, baldonado oh. GOD oh yeah i know about 1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:24.080 THIS case because i think He looked at oregon. A 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:25.720 little bit i was sort of catching up with. All 1:03:25.760 --> 1:03:28.360 recruiting stuff he's a he's very, slim for, RIGHT yeah 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:30.560 yeah i mean they got him listed, at six.' five 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:33.040 two thirty i don't know if, he's actually two thirty 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:35.320 but That's a guy that pitt did a great job 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:37.880 getting in on and it would not surprise me if 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:40.600 he is like an early round draft pick in. A, 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:42.560 couple of, Years, Interesting All. 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:45.360 Right bud florida. State Laid on us, Willy Taggert, Comes 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:49.320 in jimbo fisher we've talked about. It on the program, 1:03:49.680 --> 1:03:52.080 maybe overplayed his Hand ENDS up AT. Texas A and 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:55.080 m florida. State goes Out There they bring willie Taggert. 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:58.160 Home back to florida how did he do in his 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:01.720 first half psychic quarters cycle whatever you, want to call 1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:02.240 It Recruiting? 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:05.160 Cycle at, florida state you know as Far As like by, 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:08.200 florida state's normal standards it's it doesn't measure up because 1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:11.600 they're almost always like a top five team if you 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:14.240 measure him against everybody else who's a new head coach 1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:16.920 with with the new, EARLY signing period dynamic i think 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:19.439 they had probably far and away the best best job 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:23.520 done considering how far. They had to go, NOW they 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:26.600 killed receiver i Mean Just they got Treyshon. Harrison out 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:29.200 Of Seattle, they got Jordan Young, they got Warren Thompson, 1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:31.760 they got keyshon Heldon They. Got to marcus adams they're 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:33.920 switching to a spread or, more of a spread. You 1:04:33.960 --> 1:04:36.200 know type thing. They needed a receiver they went out 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:38.360 and they just signed a bunch, of studs at receiver like. 1:04:38.440 --> 1:04:41.480 That's a huge win they kept a lot of really 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:44.200 important pieces in the class Who were, waivering once, jimbo 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:48.040 Left You, know linebacker Mary Gaynor, DEFENSIVE Tackle Robert Cooper. 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:51.600 dB santae, SAMUEL jr and god i feel PRETTY old 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:53.520 SAYING that i don't i don't know. If you guys. 1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:53.640 Do. 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:56.560 Oh my god yes And then They, got jayden would 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:58.120 be who was one of the Top Players. On the 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:02.280 west coast, THE kid literally Tweeted I wonder why florida 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:05.240 state was too dumb, not to offer me and. Immediately 1:05:05.320 --> 1:05:07.600 got an off you GOT a five, star dB out, there, 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:09.920 and they're like wait what the previous staff? Didn't offer 1:05:09.960 --> 1:05:13.680 this kid and literally the dude had Been Tweeting pictures 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:16.680 Of Durwin james and jalen ramsey like all year and say. 1:05:16.760 --> 1:05:20.640 These are my idols, and FSU's old staff like I, 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:22.520 told my reader tomahawk they weren't doing anything for. A, 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:25.160 couple of months wow they really were just, asleep at 1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:26.480 the wheel which is how you end. Up in the 1:05:26.560 --> 1:05:30.240 Sixties In recruiting at florida state obviously because probably. Should 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:31.880 never Be There and now florida state two of their 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:33.840 most talented players in this Class Are. From The, West, 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:35.960 coast west coast Yeah in that small now these kids 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:38.160 Are Tweeting like, hashtag WEST coast knowles and i don't 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:40.360 think that's going. To last long term but it'd be 1:05:40.400 --> 1:05:42.360 an idiot not to use their relationships you built over 1:05:42.400 --> 1:05:44.520 the last. Year if you're taggered so he did a. 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:47.680 Good job with that they. Didn't get A Quarterback jimbo. 1:05:47.720 --> 1:05:49.880 Got james FOSTER today that was i think A Surprise 1:05:49.960 --> 1:05:53.600 to both FLORIDA state and to lsu, at least you know. 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:55.600 OVER the past week i think last night they had 1:05:55.640 --> 1:05:59.840 a decent idea that he. Might not be coming but it's. 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:02.280 A PRETTY deep class but i feel like they didn't. 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:04.600 Reach too much either. They took twenty one there were 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:06.200 a couple of KIDS on the board i know they 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:08.680 could have extended offers to and they elected. TO pocket 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:10.240 those scholarship i think next year they want to take 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:12.360 like a twenty six or. Twenty seven man class so 1:06:12.520 --> 1:06:14.760 one of the things that you know has been very 1:06:14.760 --> 1:06:18.200 apparent in talking About these Top Classes, alabama NOW florida state, 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:22.040 great dB class overall it seems like nationally and another 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:24.640 school that did really well with defensive backs is. In 1:06:24.720 --> 1:06:28.320 that same conference miami did really well with defensive backs, 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:31.240 and aside from that in terms of offensive, skill with, 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:34.280 running back. WIDE receiver tight end i know they bring in. 1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:37.240 A Blue Chip quarterback It's. Jaron williams or williams this 1:06:37.400 --> 1:06:39.439 is a class that even as of, a few weeks 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:41.960 ago people were saying this could, be, a top one 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:45.120 two three class and ultimately didn't finish. Probably one or 1:06:45.160 --> 1:06:48.400 two but this is an Incredibly impressive Haul, from mark 1:06:48.440 --> 1:06:51.480 rex All his best class. Miami's, HAD in years okay i. 1:06:51.520 --> 1:06:54.080 MEAN it Really Is i like. Lorenzo lingard a lot 1:06:54.360 --> 1:06:56.840 now he's six, foot of buck ninety. But he runs 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:59.760 track once he knocks, that track stuff off he's probably. Gonna, 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:02.360 Be two ten now i'm not saying He's as talented, 1:07:02.360 --> 1:07:06.080 AS darren McFadden stylistically i would. Comp him to that he's, 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:10.200 really a violent. SLASHER good Burst Downfield i like. Jared 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:12.400 williams a lot that's A Great get from. Mark Rick 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:16.720 to quarterback delane scaife is a big time Guard who They, 1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:20.720 signed brian high tower REALLY nice PLAYER at img who 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:23.160 i think compliments the other. Receivers, in his, class well 1:07:23.440 --> 1:07:25.919 you know they got some Size With. Him and dak 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:28.520 wiggins They Got tied end Breben Jordan Out, Of bishop 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:32.120 gorman nestville severa was the best. Et in the. State 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:34.320 they got him now THEY Did. With, on d lineman 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:37.640 overall that's the second year in a row they've they've 1:07:37.680 --> 1:07:41.400 had some issues at that And this coming year miami 1:07:41.440 --> 1:07:43.120 has got to GET To get on d lineman and 1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:44.600 they got a lot of, playing time to offer and they, 1:07:44.640 --> 1:07:46.800 did this Year too so maybe i'll have to change 1:07:46.840 --> 1:07:49.560 up their. APPROACH some with That I. LOVE receiver mark pope. 1:07:50.120 --> 1:07:52.600 I mean this guy if, you haven't seen This go. 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:55.680 On our Facebook Page. Check out mark Pope they call 1:07:55.760 --> 1:07:58.720 him noodles and he just. He Just Destroys people al 1:07:58.760 --> 1:08:03.000 Blades junior. Obviously A. Miami legacy nice dB, some people 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:04.040 were like? Is he a corner? 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:04.800 IS he a. 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:09.680 Safety i don't care that makes place now who'll figure 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:11.600 out a? Hybrid position for me it's. A really nice 1:08:11.600 --> 1:08:14.960 class i think they hit their needs at REALLY every, 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:17.240 spot the d line and they hit. Their needs with 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:19.280 talent and it doesn't matter what position you play, in 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:21.920 the defensive backfield because they All Just pick off notre, 1:08:21.960 --> 1:08:25.519 dame quarterbacks right exact, that's what they. Do discriminate, TIE 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:27.800 transition go oh i forgot. 1:08:28.240 --> 1:08:31.080 A perfect setup. To my, Next. QUESTION thank you daniel 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:33.880 i was Going To ask about Notre dame so filed 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:36.800 yourkovic is the name that we have discussed ON this 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:40.280 podcast for i don't know a couple months, now Here 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:43.680 And there, but notre dame's class by all accounts. A 1:08:43.720 --> 1:08:46.479 top ten class. Depends where you look, maybe it's number ten, 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:49.000 Maybe IT'S number, eight but i think all in all. 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:52.040 A pretty good class seems to me like it's. Built 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:55.880 around the essentials, They strengthened their line they've got a 1:08:55.960 --> 1:08:59.320 lot of, defensive players in there both at the second 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:02.280 level with wine up good, linebacker class tie yeah and 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:05.040 at the third level back. In the defensive backfield When 1:09:05.040 --> 1:09:07.160 You look, at notre dames class what? Stands? OUT to You. 1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:12.160 Well i like houston griffith A lot. The, dB nfl 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:14.599 legacy obviously i've seen him QUITE. A bit at IMG 1:09:15.000 --> 1:09:16.560 another guy who i think is the vers tility to. 1:09:16.600 --> 1:09:20.840 PLAY Corner or safety i roll. AN extremely smart kid 1:09:20.960 --> 1:09:23.160 i mean you can move him around and he can 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:25.000 be a big. TIME asset Your Defense, i like jack. 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:27.840 Lamb he's A Hitter i've seen george taxis a lot 1:09:28.160 --> 1:09:30.360 the tight end y'all sign because he lives about thirty 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:33.320 minutes From, Me. Down in naples florida he's, A. GUY 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:35.719 frame wise tye i think is going to be a tremendous. 1:09:35.760 --> 1:09:38.040 Asset as. A blocker good hands i mean he's not 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:41.160 the most athletic, kid in the world but if he's 1:09:41.200 --> 1:09:42.960 six seven to two forty, NOW as he's listed i 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:45.240 think he can be two seventy wow and, be a 1:09:45.320 --> 1:09:48.240 really nice. Nice blocker for y'all that's a big time avenge. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:50.960 In The Run game love kevin. AUSTIN as a receiver 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:54.519 i feel like He Was very. UNDERRATED michigan state legacy 1:09:54.840 --> 1:09:58.880 i believe tough guy sixty three two. HUNDRED dish big 1:09:59.000 --> 1:10:01.880 time i. REALLY like Like Him, i like shane simon the, 1:10:02.000 --> 1:10:05.880 Another Linebacker. Y'ALL sign lawrence keys i think it's kind 1:10:05.880 --> 1:10:08.920 of a. Specialty, kid you got yeah THEY picked him 1:10:08.960 --> 1:10:09.920 up i think today or last. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:10.080 Year. 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:15.160 That, was today yeah, yeah he's super fast like hands, 1:10:15.240 --> 1:10:19.000 made need some work but he. Really he can scoot and, 1:10:19.120 --> 1:10:21.760 then there's a kid probably one of the lowest rated 1:10:21.840 --> 1:10:24.040 kids In your class who i've just seen him make play, 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.760 after Play After Play. Man joe wilkins junior they went 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:28.439 and got Him Out Out Of. North north fort myers 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:31.439 that that. That DUDE'S a player and i feel like 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:33.519 some kids from that Area and from the houston area 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:36.920 this year were underrated. Because of the hurricanes so you 1:10:37.000 --> 1:10:38.280 had a lot of a lot of games that were 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:40.200 canceled so people didn't. Get to see him, sure you 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:43.040 had games you Had games, moved to tuesday nights and 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:45.400 so like some of these kids Were playing Games. On, 1:10:45.479 --> 1:10:49.640 tuesday and friday interesting so they really. It limited The exposure, 1:10:50.439 --> 1:10:52.280 like where wilkins lives they didn't have power for like 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:55.599 fourteen days and it. Kind of disrupted Stuff So nice 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:58.960 job notre dame going down. THERE to get him i 1:10:59.000 --> 1:11:04.120 Also Like the Safety. PAUL maloe, at indianapolis i mean 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:06.439 he's rated nine and twenty. Eight In the nation that's 1:11:07.640 --> 1:11:09.280 i'm not gonna tell you he's like. A TOP hundred kid, 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:12.040 that's i don't know a. Couple hundred spots low if 1:11:12.080 --> 1:11:14.800 you like that. Sticks, out to me oh And Then, 1:11:14.800 --> 1:11:17.240 they GOT noah Boykin who I knew florida in virginia 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:19.960 were really hoping to get a, corner, that was today 1:11:20.040 --> 1:11:24.080 right that. Was a late signee Let's, stay in the 1:11:24.120 --> 1:11:26.320 midwest which IS not a phrase i like to say, 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:29.639 All that often personally. But Here we are ohio state. 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:32.960 Has an amazing class this is something. We Say every year, 1:11:33.280 --> 1:11:36.080 urban meyer amasses talent did a lot, of this early 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:39.960 on but he LANDED the number one i believe offensive. 1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:43.800 Tackle IN the country and i still think they ended, up, 1:11:43.840 --> 1:11:46.599 WITH a quarterback right I think He's From texas after 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:49.960 emery jones ended Up. Not going to columbus but this 1:11:50.200 --> 1:11:53.120 is it looks to be a great defensive Line Class. 1:11:53.200 --> 1:11:57.599 Defense overall ohio state it's just it's a. MACHINE at, 1:11:57.680 --> 1:12:00.360 this point i, mean is there like are there three 1:12:00.520 --> 1:12:02.920 players that stand out from this class or is it 1:12:03.080 --> 1:12:05.080 just like A top, to bottom. They're ridiculous All right 1:12:05.360 --> 1:12:07.880 nicholas tite frere to moorn offensive tackle in the? Nation 1:12:08.080 --> 1:12:11.280 who you? MENTIONED what separates him i think just athleticism 1:12:11.640 --> 1:12:15.120 and size and, yet, he's so raw okay like he's 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:16.800 going to be so much better. Than he already is 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:20.160 but he's a legit like he's like a skinny two eighty, 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:22.439 Five at six six he's got a lot. Of room 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:24.439 to Grow He's, built like tyron smith the guy that 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:28.640 plays Left. Tackle FOR the cowboys WAS i like the 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:31.080 d tackles they signed in a year that IS not a. Good, 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:34.519 D tackle year okay so like position scarcity, is a 1:12:34.560 --> 1:12:36.920 real thing and not every year has the same amount 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:39.519 of good players at. Exactly every single position some years 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:42.000 are good years for one position and in the. Following 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:44.040 year is not this WAS not a. GOOD d tackle 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:46.519 year i don't actually think there was a true five. Stard, 1:12:46.600 --> 1:12:49.679 Tackle this, year wow, We've Seen you Know Christian wilkins 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:52.960 And Dexter lawrence and rashaun gary and guys like. THAT 1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:55.160 in previous years i didn't see anybody. Like that this 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:57.360 year SO if, you needed d tackles the number of 1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:59.960 really good. Ones was very small they went out inside 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:03.160 the best. Two In The, country damn tarn vincent who 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:05.840 is the son the giant like gigantic, son by The 1:13:05.880 --> 1:13:10.439 Way A former, All Pro nfl corner troy Vincent sure 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:13.000 for the eagles about one hundred pounds. Bigger than the 1:13:13.040 --> 1:13:18.080 dad and then they also got The kid OUT of idaho's. 1:13:18.160 --> 1:13:18.280 Name. 1:13:18.280 --> 1:13:21.080 I can't pronounce, tommy ALWAYS watched this But. I. THINK 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:23.800 it's toji yeah i like a couple kids in their 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:26.280 class who are sort, of down ballot. KIDS if you Will, 1:13:26.520 --> 1:13:28.800 i think seven banks who is the Little Brother Of 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:32.920 remember Marcel harris simon the gators kind of blew up 1:13:32.920 --> 1:13:35.080 his knee and never. Really had The career but seven 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:37.280 banks is, a really smart players Good. ATHLETE out of 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:39.360 orlando i think that was a. GOOD take For them 1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:42.280 i like. CAMERON babb a lot i know we, got 1:13:42.360 --> 1:13:44.320 hurt this year but when he has the, ball in 1:13:44.360 --> 1:13:46.880 his hands he's Like A running back ohio state able to. 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:50.080 Get him in space And There's A Linebacker dallas caan't 1:13:50.439 --> 1:13:53.960 dallas gant rated outside. THE top one FIFTY i know 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:57.800 there's i guess there's ten outside. Linebackers better than him 1:13:57.840 --> 1:14:00.600 i'm not entirely, you, DON'T say it sure i just 1:14:00.720 --> 1:14:01.680 give ONE of the kids i really. 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:04.040 Like, in that class Okay Let's talk about penn state, 1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:10.439 as a casual observer perhaps. As an eager alum it 1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:15.080 Feels To me like penn state has accelerated on the. 1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:17.360 Recruiting side of things if you look at their recruiting 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:20.320 rankings and where they've stacked up relative to Other Teams, 1:14:20.360 --> 1:14:22.880 in the, big ten just say over, the last four 1:14:22.960 --> 1:14:26.080 years it feels like it's getting stronger, each and every 1:14:26.120 --> 1:14:29.840 year and this year. Was certainly no different seems like 1:14:29.960 --> 1:14:32.439 they have a ton of momentum. On the recruiting side 1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:35.439 they obviously got A Guy like a micah parsons who folks. 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:38.599 Are really excited about in. The early signing period they. 1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:41.479 Added some other names today when you, look at the 1:14:41.560 --> 1:14:43.519 class where do you think the Strength Is of What 1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:45.360 Penn state and james franklin went out? And, did this 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:46.559 time well. 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:50.200 Edge rusher for sure parsons is just he's a dog, 1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:52.640 Man JUST every, snap like i know he's got. Some 1:14:52.720 --> 1:14:57.160 attitude to. Him he goes. HARD he's a beast i also. 1:14:57.280 --> 1:15:02.120 Love the Utter Dn, they SIGNED jason oway who i 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:05.240 think actually has potentially A higher. Ceiling than parsons now 1:15:05.280 --> 1:15:08.519 he's nowhere near the, player he is currently but always 1:15:08.560 --> 1:15:11.240 also a kid who's. Fairly new, to football he's learning he's. 1:15:11.240 --> 1:15:14.000 Growing into his body but, HE'S like six,' six i 1:15:14.040 --> 1:15:15.760 don't know two thirty is probably he, looks like a 1:15:15.800 --> 1:15:17.679 basketball player but he looks. Like one, of those, guys 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:20.639 it's like, oh man if he develops that's a first 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:23.120 round looking kid because he has the length in. The 1:15:23.200 --> 1:15:25.719 frame to do that and, speaking Of Length and frame 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:30.799 receiver Justin Shorter is like, at terrell, owens clung. Style 1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:34.240 BODY size speed Ridiculous what. I like was shorter though, 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:37.720 he's got the long speed but he also has the 1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:40.200 quickness and a lot of times you don't see that with. 1:15:40.600 --> 1:15:43.559 The guys who are tall are a lot of, the dudes, who, 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:45.360 are tall they're builders right it takes a little time. 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:47.880 To get up top speed he's got the instant go 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:51.200 and the extra gear to get deep so that that's 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:53.240 going to. Be really nice for THEM and then a 1:15:53.280 --> 1:15:56.000 guy i. Think he's gonna play early one of the 1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:59.200 highest floor players in THIS. Class, for me is pj 1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:03.479 mustafer a d tackle who's. Clearly been schooled really well not. 1:16:03.640 --> 1:16:05.559 The most freakish of athletes he's, a top one hundred 1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:07.680 kid but he's, not like a You Know he's not 1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:11.200 a dexter lawrence, type dude, at the, tackle great. HANDS 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:14.360 really quick good technique i think he's a guy who 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:16.439 could be. An excellent college football player you know what 1:16:16.560 --> 1:16:17.960 it seems like to me with When You look, at 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:20.720 this penn state class they have three positions that are 1:16:20.800 --> 1:16:23.400 filled by allegedly the best player in the country At 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:25.840 That Position Is in mike parson's ricky slade as an 1:16:25.840 --> 1:16:28.560 all Purpose back and. Just for shorter at receiver it 1:16:28.680 --> 1:16:30.479 seems to me when you when you look at, where 1:16:30.600 --> 1:16:32.400 these guys are from there's a, lot Of Like, that 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:36.040 coast the, Atlantic Coast. There's you know new Jersey These 1:16:36.120 --> 1:16:38.760 guys seem like urban meyer would have been recruiting them 1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:42.439 and Getting, commitments from Them at storta and like maryland Guys. 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:44.760 Would be going, to, alabama Whatever It is right and 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:47.120 james franklin has done an amazing job of not, just 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.599 keeping pa kids home but that whole region. Within two 1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:53.559 or three states he is he is. Building, a multi 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:56.680 state Fence Well think about who ohio state did, try, 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:58.960 TO recruit These Kids right i mean michael parsons that. 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:02.479 THEY were on really Aggressively I, Know They, wanted justin 1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:05.280 shorter Rashid Walker the kid. At ohio state signed. TODAY 1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:07.920 they wanted him bad i mean they were one of the. 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:09.960 Top two finalists for him there's a lot of These 1:17:10.040 --> 1:17:12.080 Kids that do Have Ohio, state offers. In ohio state 1:17:12.600 --> 1:17:15.360 absolutely one it's act. Serves a lot, of credit by 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:20.439 the way Preliminary Calculations here looks like penn state is 1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:23.680 the newest member. Of, the Blue Chip, ratio hey so, 1:17:23.880 --> 1:17:24.720 penn state there you go. 1:17:25.280 --> 1:17:27.599 Explain The blood chip ratio so i'm. GLAD you brought 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:29.040 that up i wanted to bring that up. Before we 1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:31.519 let you go but blue chip ratio is something that 1:17:32.160 --> 1:17:34.519 you've been beating the drum. On for a long time 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:36.920 what exactly is that and how does that, pertain to 1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:41.960 how a school how a program. Does, in the foreseeable 1:17:42.000 --> 1:17:43.320 future sure. 1:17:43.200 --> 1:17:46.280 So basically it's Just a rolling four year look at 1:17:46.840 --> 1:17:49.400 did you sign more four and five star kids than 1:17:49.439 --> 1:17:52.559 two and three star kids over? The LAST four recruiting 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:55.280 classes and, i went back and looked and basically everybody 1:17:55.400 --> 1:17:59.599 in the modern recruiting era that won a. National title has, 1:17:59.680 --> 1:18:02.760 done so So to me it's basically i'm not saying. 1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:05.280 It's perfect or it's infallible that are heavy broken organ, 1:18:05.760 --> 1:18:11.120 Almost snap, The streak twice yeah exactly but there's sort 1:18:11.160 --> 1:18:13.000 of like a it's almost like a necessary but not 1:18:13.040 --> 1:18:15.320 sufficient condition, if you hit the ratio you're not going. 1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:18.720 To win a national championship but, if you don't hit it. It's, 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:20.800 really tough to do so like you probably need a 1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:24.200 team of like super veteran guys who are really, close 1:18:24.240 --> 1:18:26.800 to be in there, maybe like a you know, forty 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:29.200 five percent type team and then you also have like. 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:33.280 A transcendent quarterback type thing so there's usually between like 1:18:33.479 --> 1:18:36.320 ten and fifteen teams in a given year who have 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:39.599 done so. Over The Previous, Four, cycles So. PENN state 1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:42.840 OKLAHOMA and texas i think i got, to RUN the 1:18:42.920 --> 1:18:44.800 numbers finally but i think they're all going to be 1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:49.519 back in the. Club this year fair enough and we'd 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:51.960 be remiss if we didn't talk. About ANOTHER big ten 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:54.599 power and i badly want To, just START talking about 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:58.400 wisconsin but i Will be kind and say michigan actually 1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:02.320 did not sign a class that was necessarily on par 1:19:02.439 --> 1:19:04.599 with what they've done the Past Couple. Of years under 1:19:04.680 --> 1:19:09.439 jim harbaugh Is the? Panic reasonable from michigan fans is 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:12.479 it just an average down year and you still, like 1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:16.000 guys in, this class or you know is their reason 1:19:16.080 --> 1:19:18.719 to actually say we have to? Write THE ship recruiting 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:22.320 Wise so i don't think michigan has like fallen. OFF 1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:26.200 recruiting wise a ton i think they had. An, unfortunate 1:19:26.360 --> 1:19:29.760 combination of, timing OKAY we all knew or i think 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:32.280 most people knew that twenty seventeen was going to be a, 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:34.720 down yere on the field given. All that they had 1:19:34.760 --> 1:19:37.479 lost combine That with the fact that michigan did not have. 1:19:37.720 --> 1:19:40.160 That many spots to give. They only took nineteen kids 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:43.040 now MAYBE they could, have taken i don't. Know twenty 1:19:43.120 --> 1:19:45.679 or Twenty one i'm sure our michigan side, will correct 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:48.240 me on this But under no circumstances with michigan are 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:49.880 going to be able to fit like twenty seven. Kids 1:19:50.120 --> 1:19:53.840 and load this thing they capitalized last year on a 1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:55.760 strong year in Which They. Went to the orange bowl 1:19:56.240 --> 1:19:57.840 they had to weather the storm this year on the 1:19:57.880 --> 1:19:59.639 field and on the recruiting tree because they knew they weren't, 1:19:59.640 --> 1:20:02.360 going to be that. Good And, indeed they weren't for 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.599 michigan twenty eighteen is, kind. Of, make A break right 1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:07.439 sure if michigan goes out and kicks ass, On the 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:09.519 field this Year i'm pretty sure in michigan will go 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:12.080 back and dominate. On, the recruiting trail, again sure if 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:13.800 they don't then that's back to back years on the 1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:16.120 field where They're not very impressive and harborough's. Program is 1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:19.240 not making, progress and then guess what elite kids from 1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:20.800 out of state probably aren't going. To sign up for 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:23.680 that so this has really sort of been a, like, a, 1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:25.639 Instead of buy sell hold. I'm just kind of holding 1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:28.519 i'm waiting to see what twenty eighteen, will be on 1:20:28.560 --> 1:20:31.559 the field and that'll strongly reflect in. The twenty nineteen 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:33.599 recruiting class let's look At The rest, of THE big 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:35.320 ten quickly because i know you have at least a 1:20:35.360 --> 1:20:37.880 couple of classes where you know they're not top, heavy 1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:40.479 with blue chip recruits but in terms of what these 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:43.640 teams have done, recently and how they've improved either with new, 1:20:43.720 --> 1:20:47.160 coaches or just recent success Who Are teams in the 1:20:47.240 --> 1:20:50.479 big ten that you see as infusing with a. LOT 1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:52.680 more talent than usual, I, got to tell you dan 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:55.680 in the days, after The early signing period, When, i'm 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:57.600 talking to coaches hey? What's your, board look like you 1:20:57.640 --> 1:21:00.160 know is there a kid or two you really? Didn't want? 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.599 To sign earlier who did the name that KEPT coming 1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:05.680 up Was was i can't believe minnesota got this kid 1:21:05.760 --> 1:21:08.320 to sign wow over and over again from Like, major 1:21:08.400 --> 1:21:12.600 powers In The southeast like receiver rashad baite rated the 1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:14.720 number sixty. One receiver in, a country. There's no way 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:17.960 no way he's a Stud. GOT him Out of Georgia 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:20.280 I think georgia and florida, state wanted him to wait. 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:23.360 Interesting he didn't do, it minnesota got that kid a, 1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:25.719 kid who if he waited they would have absolutely signed 1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:27.920 him one of those, schools Or like you know a florida. 1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:31.160 OR or Somebody Like. That i like terrelle smith He's. 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:32.599 Another kid out of georgia they went And Got down 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:35.519 out of. SOUTH gwinnette BIG time cornerback i think i. 1:21:35.560 --> 1:21:38.040 Think He's An underrated player REMEMBER, benny sap in the 1:21:38.160 --> 1:21:40.840 Nfl played for Like. The vikings and the, dolphins they 1:21:40.920 --> 1:21:42.599 got his son who happens to be. A lot taller 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:45.080 THAN him he's a corner i like a Lot of. 1:21:45.160 --> 1:21:48.320 KID out of minnesota TOO O, Lineman from the img 1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:52.640 academy curtis Dun Nappen, or dunlapp and DANIEL fallele Two 1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:54.519 kids who i think minnesota's, a Good fit for them 1:21:54.600 --> 1:21:57.320 right they need to work on. Their Bodies a, little 1:21:57.360 --> 1:21:59.240 bit in falle's case he just needs to work On. 1:21:59.400 --> 1:22:01.000 Learning the game foot paul He's Only been in the. 1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:03.560 United States, for, a year, HE'S australian right huge guy i, 1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:05.599 Mean six eight FOUR hundred, like, we're not i mean 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:08.800 Legit we're. TALKING TY hildon. BRAND size i i Was 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:10.400 I was at the orange bowl a Couple Of Years 1:22:10.439 --> 1:22:12.280 ago when the BIG show was there and i was in. 1:22:12.360 --> 1:22:17.320 The press elevator with? Him how was that scary balle 1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:21.160 is Literally The like. Like the big show size that's 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:23.320 like there's very few. Humans in life you'll see it's 1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:26.080 like whoa and and those those two are probably LIKE 1:22:26.120 --> 1:22:29.960 the two utter like i guess shack like like two 1:22:30.000 --> 1:22:33.120 of the largest humans. You'll ever see, in person he's 1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:34.599 that big but he. Needs to. Learn THE game Mm 1:22:34.640 --> 1:22:38.200 hmm and I Think maryland whereas like jonathan, ogden coming 1:22:38.240 --> 1:22:41.000 into college football. He, was a football player yeah he 1:22:41.120 --> 1:22:44.639 was ready, to, Dominate At that size right so minnesota 1:22:44.800 --> 1:22:47.240 had a really. A heck Of a class i think 1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:51.160 nebraska Had A. Nice close under scott fast wisconsin kind 1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:52.559 of does what they do. To get guys that fit 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:56.479 although we talked earlier On A periscope on my twitter 1:22:56.600 --> 1:23:00.200 spn Recruiting that We did with dan in wisconsin for 1:23:00.360 --> 1:23:03.720 next year. LOOKING really strong right, now i like their, 1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:05.640 Quarterback they have a lot they've got a number of 1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:08.519 kids committed who are just Quite frankly better players in 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:11.120 wisconsin normally gets so that they might finally be turning 1:23:11.200 --> 1:23:15.599 these wins gradually into. A slightly better caliber recruits. They're, 1:23:15.600 --> 1:23:17.800 getting guys drafted highly yeah you Know we're talking, about 1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:22.439 the watt brothers, absolutely and even around Elsewhere Even. Outside of, 1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:24.800 the big ten You know, You, like the toledo class 1:23:24.920 --> 1:23:27.160 like there are, a group of five Classes not Necessarily 1:23:27.280 --> 1:23:29.360 just in texas and florida that have done a really 1:23:29.400 --> 1:23:31.720 good job this year. And the early signing period this Is, 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:35.600 Who It's Made For. TOLEDO southern miss. COASTAL carolina I 1:23:35.720 --> 1:23:38.479 Like setting. I, like south carolina's class okay, not a group, of, 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:41.519 five let's be clear sure RIGHT but within within the 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:44.720 sec they. Might as well be h i'm. Probably, go some, 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:47.439 Hate mill, wow that's okay. Now listen it's ABOUT honesty 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:50.479 You know Those I mean, toledo GOT gus bradley's kid 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:52.920 who i think is going to, fit that offense really 1:23:52.960 --> 1:23:56.320 well and he not gotten. HURT in his senior year 1:23:56.360 --> 1:23:58.679 i feel like He would be. A. Surefire POWER five 1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:02.240 kid wow so i. Like that signing, a lot there's, 1:24:02.240 --> 1:24:03.680 ANOTHER kid by the way i want to point out 1:24:03.960 --> 1:24:06.640 early signing period kid, Who if he had waited and 1:24:06.760 --> 1:24:09.719 this might be like a sort of a cautionary. Tale 1:24:09.880 --> 1:24:12.000 For kids in futures and i'm not saying don't sign, at, 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:15.800 these mid level schools right but There Is no doubt 1:24:15.880 --> 1:24:19.960 That devon matthews out of jacksonville would have had like 1:24:21.040 --> 1:24:24.400 a ton better options or not. To, say better bigger 1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:27.439 options yeah and He waited. For the traditional sunday instead, You. Know, 1:24:27.439 --> 1:24:30.400 where he went indiana okay this Kid's. Gonna Kill It 1:24:30.439 --> 1:24:33.439 for indiana and tom Allen. Has, the connection to florida 1:24:33.560 --> 1:24:36.200 yeah HE'S Probably the most. Talented. dB indiana's ever signed 1:24:36.520 --> 1:24:38.639 wow and they Also Signed a guy that florida state 1:24:38.720 --> 1:24:40.360 was on, for, A Long. Time, too right James. Miller 1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:43.720 yes he, liked indiana he he. Well not a long 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:45.640 time apparently that that might, Have, Been An issue there 1:24:45.720 --> 1:24:48.400 okay florida state didn't Offer, him until real late okay 1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:51.479 and then it looked like maybe he was under some 1:24:51.520 --> 1:24:53.680 pressure to sign with schools who. Were, on him for 1:24:53.800 --> 1:24:56.560 longer okay, He, was sort of like hey are you 1:24:56.600 --> 1:24:58.080 really going to, play here, as opposed. 1:24:57.800 --> 1:24:58.080 To you know. 1:24:58.160 --> 1:25:00.040 School THAT really wants you and i think that's a 1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:02.479 cool thing with the early signing period. Some of these, 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:05.640 KIDS do this is. Like i think it's important i'm 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:07.599 not trying to advocate these kids. Just pick the biggest 1:25:07.640 --> 1:25:10.960 schools sometimes they do like they just pick the most 1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:13.719 popular name and can. GET lost in the shuffle I Remember, 1:25:13.720 --> 1:25:16.160 Sitting next to sean white auburn quarterback on the plane 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:17.800 right on the, way back from the opening, and he, 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:19.360 was telling me you know he Was probably gonna go 1:25:19.360 --> 1:25:21.080 to auburn and he. Was LISTENING to the schools and 1:25:21.200 --> 1:25:22.839 i never want to get, involved IN the. Kids recruitment 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:26.120 so i. Didn't you don't, Say anything, in, my head 1:25:26.120 --> 1:25:29.479 i'm thinking man you were. Just, Picking the biggest name 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:32.200 yeah like that is not a good. Fit for your 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:35.240 skill set they run the heck out of the quarterback 1:25:35.240 --> 1:25:37.680 when they Got, a kid when heel yeah and you 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:41.439 have a lot of options that, are less like you 1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:44.360 know famous names of schools that. Probably. Fix your skill 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:46.920 set better so maybe the early signing paper will help 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:48.920 some of these kids because if you're signed early, with 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:51.160 us with the place that school probably really wants you because. They're, 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:54.080 committed to, You early Right You, Know minnesota or shot 1:25:54.200 --> 1:25:55.280 babey mike or might go in. 1:25:55.360 --> 1:25:55.519 There and. 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:58.439 Start day one that's incredible good for him and he 1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:00.920 will have that exposure that he, right not necessarily have 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:03.000 had and, he will have, you know action in games 1:26:03.040 --> 1:26:04.479 And will have time to john had. A good career 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:05.840 about it i'm. Not trying to, bash, him i'm just 1:26:05.880 --> 1:26:07.400 now yeah that's just an example. As possed, In, my 1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:10.400 head i'm like wow that's like the kid. Just, Picking, 1:26:10.400 --> 1:26:12.200 the biggest name yep well why don't? 1:26:12.200 --> 1:26:14.080 We close, out with This Then again talking with bud 1:26:14.200 --> 1:26:18.479 elliott here about a whole swath of the nation As 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:22.640 It Relates to this national signing day. Part duh in, 1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:27.679 twenty eighteen but you know we've talked so much about 1:26:28.280 --> 1:26:32.840 now the early signing period and the traditional late. Signing 1:26:32.960 --> 1:26:38.160 period through one cycle if, you could sum it up how, 1:26:38.200 --> 1:26:41.640 Have coaches adjusted their, strategies who has it? Helped who 1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:41.920 has it. 1:26:42.000 --> 1:26:47.360 Hurt it certainly helped the mid level schools it's really 1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:49.960 hurting the. Schools. THAT make coaching changes, yeah i mean 1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:53.640 the look The two biggest Threats to georgia in the. 1:26:53.680 --> 1:26:58.800 East both make coaching changes georgia put probably two. Years 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:01.439 of distance between them everybody else needs, this year with 1:27:01.560 --> 1:27:04.600 This class Relative to. WHAT florida, and tennessee signed i 1:27:04.680 --> 1:27:07.439 mean it's going to Take two Full classes of florida 1:27:07.439 --> 1:27:11.240 and tennessee working their. Butts, off to, Catch up yeah 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:13.840 and meanwhile george is. In a talent RICH state it, does, not, 1:27:13.920 --> 1:27:17.200 I mean Obviously well yeah i mean jordan starts starting 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:20.840 to TREAT their State. Like like, usc treats california that's 1:27:20.880 --> 1:27:23.479 incredible kind of like like the. Writer first refusal type 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:26.920 thing is there a story now when you look back 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:30.080 at this signing class? That stands out to you is there, 1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:32.920 anybody's recruitment, where you say you know It's Not. Like 1:27:33.000 --> 1:27:35.360 crazy like terrell Pryor We had the big jacob copeland 1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:38.080 today with his mom initially walking off set because it 1:27:38.120 --> 1:27:39.599 looked like she didn't Want. Him to go to florida, 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:42.200 but then they they reconciled so it seemed like it. 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:44.960 Ended in a happy way but in terms of is 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:48.360 there a, Story that you say this this recruitment Was 1:27:48.439 --> 1:27:52.360 the most interesting and i'm excited to see. How Things 1:27:52.439 --> 1:27:56.760 go for, HIM the patzertan thing. Was i mean really 1:27:56.840 --> 1:28:01.280 interesting and, for Those who don't Know. Obviously cirtancy is From, Louisiana. 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:07.200 HE played, it, SUTURN miss i think okay lsu was 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:11.840 the leader. For, him like forever years yeah and for 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:16.240 saving to go AND, get him away from Lsu and. 1:28:16.479 --> 1:28:19.120 FOR how well jimbo closed i think THERE'S A dynamic 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:23.679 in the sec west now where the PRESSURE it's just totally, 1:28:23.760 --> 1:28:26.479 On lsu for twenty nineteen like they have got, to 1:28:26.560 --> 1:28:29.439 do a good job because. Otherwise what are you doing 1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:33.160 the reasoning behind hiring that. Coaching staff was what recruiting, 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:36.200 We Got. A baller recruiter edward ron we're gonna surround. 1:28:36.240 --> 1:28:38.880 Him with Some Awesome coordinators it's the dabo SWINNING. Model 1:28:38.960 --> 1:28:42.880 come to the sec except. THE recruiting is not there 1:28:43.479 --> 1:28:45.200 i mean they're, not doing a Bad job but they're 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:48.519 not they're Not making up ground, IN alabama RIGHT and 1:28:48.600 --> 1:28:52.800 NOW a and M with I Guarantee you Jimbo And, tim, 1:28:52.840 --> 1:28:55.479 brusher and damian craignose. Guys they're not messing around if 1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:57.360 you give a guy seventy five million dollars, guaranteed as 1:28:57.400 --> 1:28:59.559 a head coach they're going to Sign, some kids out 1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:01.840 of houston which IS a major. Stronghold for lsu as 1:29:01.880 --> 1:29:05.720 well so that's sort of, a thing when that, happened and, 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:08.680 it was like oh man THAT the pressure's on at, 1:29:08.840 --> 1:29:12.040 lsu and quickly that's incredible and the pressure is on 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:16.040 for twenty nineteen and. We're barely, into twenty eighteen, That's recruiting. 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:20.840 Ty Feel, good feel good but elliott thank you. Very 1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:23.479 MUCH for your time and i think it's everything sort of. 1:29:23.680 --> 1:29:25.960 Wrapping down now for. You it's onto twenty nineteen you've 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:27.640 got a lot of sixteen Year olds, to follow on 1:29:27.720 --> 1:29:31.000 twitter now, so good luck, with everything and once AGAIN 1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:33.519 Be sure To follow espn recruiting on twitter and of 1:29:33.600 --> 1:29:37.880 course On, espanation dot com and, facebook and it's you 1:29:37.960 --> 1:29:41.160 know the recruiting. World if you're into it espianation does 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:44.559 the best job of contextualizing. Everything IN a human way 1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:48.519 and i can say that with honesty because going into message, 1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:51.320 boards is not. My thing, but it is you know 1:29:51.400 --> 1:29:52.960 you have. To pay attention to it if, you're a, College. 1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:55.840 Football fan, thank you. Bud all, Right, thanks man all? 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:56.720 Right daniel that. 1:29:56.840 --> 1:30:00.280 Does IT oh a marathon but, I, FEEL good about 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:03.640 IT ty i feel. Like i trained for this. My 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:08.080 joints field not bad i'm. Very happy with, my RESULT 1:30:08.360 --> 1:30:10.120 true story here if i could. 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:13.639 Be, honest on this. Program okay let's huddle up it's 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:16.240 cold in the house today because we've had a bit 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:22.200 of Inclement winter weather in eastern pennsylvania, and the house 1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:25.799 is cold so we cranked up the heater to, seventy 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:28.280 four or seventy five which is. So damn, COLD in, 1:30:28.360 --> 1:30:32.120 here and uh i thought at least at one point 1:30:32.160 --> 1:30:33.759 of taking the shirt Off, during the interview? 1:30:33.800 --> 1:30:35.320 WITH bud is that true. 1:30:35.720 --> 1:30:38.040 I thought about doing it i was, very close TO 1:30:38.160 --> 1:30:40.840 doing it and, then i thought to myself IF anyone finds, 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:42.920 out that i did this. It's REALLY gonna. Be WEIRD 1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:44.200 so i, didn't, but i thought. 1:30:44.200 --> 1:30:46.800 ABOUT yeah, that's Too bad i mean your apple watch 1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:49.719 probably has a video. Camera in, there, recording something. Probably 1:30:49.840 --> 1:30:52.479 yeah yeah probably. Not i've done that before WE'VE talked 1:30:52.479 --> 1:30:55.000 about it when i was in a particularly Hot Room at. 1:30:55.040 --> 1:30:58.080 The old fox media office but we have done a 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:03.120 show together where. With, no show It's right, uh Have We, jacuzzie, 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:03.879 oh the. Jacuzzi. 1:31:03.960 --> 1:31:05.080 Show right that's right. 1:31:05.600 --> 1:31:09.160 Yeah but other than that now this is this is 1:31:09.240 --> 1:31:11.200 as good. A time as any time we're going, through 1:31:11.200 --> 1:31:13.400 a lot of, facts a lot of figures a lot 1:31:13.439 --> 1:31:16.200 of recruiting names that are turning. Into COLLEGE football player 1:31:16.320 --> 1:31:19.280 name so i can understand even if it isn't overly 1:31:19.400 --> 1:31:22.080 warm in whatever, room you're recording this in. You're just. 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:22.800 Overheating with. 1:31:22.960 --> 1:31:25.519 KNOWLEDGE that's right that's right i would. 1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:29.280 Have definitely FORGIVEN shedding clothing so if i, WOULD have 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:31.720 actually done it. I WOULDN'T have told. YOU but i 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:33.719 came close. I walked to that line. 1:31:34.200 --> 1:31:36.080 I didn't step over it so. 1:31:36.240 --> 1:31:39.360 We have you mentioned just some somehouse cleaning. Real quick 1:31:39.400 --> 1:31:42.839 before we go we have how college football works recruiting 1:31:43.160 --> 1:31:46.280 this coming week. We're, shooting for that's correct yeah and 1:31:46.439 --> 1:31:50.360 that is, various angles. Media and parents cut whatever i'll, 1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:53.400 just how recruiting in general because it is sort. Of 1:31:53.640 --> 1:31:57.400 a multi tentacled monster just, there are so, many angles 1:31:57.439 --> 1:32:00.360 and you know there's so. Much happening behind the scene 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:01.720 so we're trying to get at least a tip of. 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:05.040 The iceberg look, at recruiting we have well we're going to, 1:32:05.080 --> 1:32:08.240 start recapping and looking forward. Because it's Never Too early 1:32:08.400 --> 1:32:11.280 our friend bill connolly has already started twenty eighteen. PREVIEWS 1:32:11.560 --> 1:32:13.840 on spnation Dot Com i just. Saw texas STATE go 1:32:14.000 --> 1:32:17.240 up we have i, think a scheme theme. Month. Sooner 1:32:17.360 --> 1:32:17.800 rather than. 1:32:17.760 --> 1:32:20.560 Later March are? WE looking at march there i would Like. 1:32:20.600 --> 1:32:20.640 To. 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:23.080 SAY we're doing march tie i just. Think we have 1:32:23.120 --> 1:32:25.719 to edit Just in watching The Super bowl and hearing 1:32:25.800 --> 1:32:29.720 chris collinsworth sometimes, accurately sometimes not, SO accurately talk about 1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:34.479 RPOs i think the time is right accounts and really 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:37.760 nerd out about, offensive and defensive and hell. Maybe, even 1:32:37.840 --> 1:32:39.000 special teams schemes. 1:32:39.200 --> 1:32:40.759 Yeah that would be good we haven't done a special, 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:41.400 teams one. 1:32:41.479 --> 1:32:45.160 No be special so. We've got that coming up. We've, 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:47.599 got a new. Logo yeah check it out you probably 1:32:47.640 --> 1:32:49.080 you might be. LOOKING at it right now i, don't 1:32:49.120 --> 1:32:50.320 KNOW on your phone. 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:52.320 BUT i that. THAT'S good i like it i. 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:52.760 THINK you do. 1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:55.519 Great work i thank you that. Means A lot to 1:32:55.600 --> 1:32:59.720 me ty and WE we HAVE. Our ongoing sv two 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:02.000 k we want two thousand and five star reviews On 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:03.280 iTunes or? 1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:03.400 What? 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:06.080 An apple podcast is, that what it. Is yep, let's, 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:08.080 get it come on people, if you. 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Guys on 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:47.519 national signing day to give us so much of their 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:50.080 time is really generous and we. Do appreciate it for, 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:53.160 sure as you can tell they are wealths of knowledge 1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:56.400 when it comes to all things recruiting. And HOW this process, 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:59.240 works as i said before you will hear more from 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:03.880 them next week In Our much. Awaited how recruiting work 1:34:03.960 --> 1:34:05.640 show we've been working on this, one For over a 1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:08.519 year so i'm excited to get, it out of the 1:34:08.600 --> 1:34:11.120 lab take, the bubble wrap off it and, release it 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:14.800 into the wild maybe a, little bit later next week okay. 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:17.840 To get that one release but the plan is to 1:34:18.160 --> 1:34:19.720 have that one out in the wild. At Some point. 1:34:19.760 --> 1:34:21.479 Next week so i'm excited. Let love, what you think 1:34:22.280 --> 1:34:24.479 as always give us an email at. Soliverble at gmail 1:34:24.520 --> 1:34:27.760 dot com look us up On, The, Social, media via 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:32.320 twitter facebook. Instagram all the usual hotspots we will be 1:34:32.640 --> 1:34:35.599 there in the Meantime For my good friend Dan Rubenstein Over, 1:34:35.640 --> 1:34:38.479 there in, New York city bar myself ty Hildebrand. Here 1:34:38.920 --> 1:34:41.160 a good old allentown we'll catch. You all, in a, week, 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:43.840 in meantime stay solid peace