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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: I'll that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Ato State? Is

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Speaker 1: that woo woom? And Dan and Ty.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal. Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 4: name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always my good friend,

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Speaker 4: my colleague, my co host of many years. His name

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Speaker 4: is Dan Rubinstein. Over there in New York City, Sir.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good, Ty, I am. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: that we got to space out signing day. I'm not

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Speaker 1: excited that my team has three head coaches in like

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Speaker 1: fourteen months, but I'm excited that it wasn't all crammed

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Speaker 1: into a single day. Selfishly, it was much easier to

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Speaker 1: follow because I'm an old man. So life is good.

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Speaker 4: You know what I thought you were going to say,

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Speaker 4: don't you What's that I thought you were going to say?

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Speaker 4: You were excited that we launched a car into space,

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Speaker 4: not that we were spacing out any kind of man

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Speaker 1: I will do a space episode at some point this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Today is for signing Day. Stuff did not understand that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: didn't understand that. But listen, Ty, it's national I guess, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's National Signing Day. It's not the early signing period.

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Speaker 1: And I'll bet our guests and their analysis will be

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Speaker 1: out of this or boom there it is. Talk about

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Speaker 1: the star rankings. We're talking about actual celestial bodies.

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Speaker 4: Look at you, Look at you? Firing up the pun

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Speaker 4: gun here. Yeah, on the traditional National Signing Day. We've

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Speaker 4: done countless shows on this very day for as far

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Speaker 4: back as I can possibly remember. Now, of course they

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Speaker 4: changed up the process on us. So there was another

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Speaker 4: one of these, an early signing period on which we

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Speaker 4: did a show back in December. Right, we talked about

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Speaker 4: a good chunk of the guys who signed back then.

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Speaker 4: I think something like sixty five or seventy of the

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Speaker 4: guys signed back on the early signing day. Now we've

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Speaker 4: got the more traditional version of recruiting's National Signing Day again,

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Speaker 4: coverage on ESPN, ESPN two all throughout the day. We're

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Speaker 4: going to talk with Brandon Hoffman. We're going to talk

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Speaker 4: with but Elliott I believe in studio. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: That is true? We're going to bring Bud into into

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Speaker 1: the big, official, beautiful studio here at the Espanation Office.

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Speaker 4: We promised back in December that on this day we

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Speaker 4: would give you a full, more comprehensive recap of what

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Speaker 4: transpired in all of the Power five conferences, what transpired

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Speaker 4: at Notre Dame. We'll talk a little bit about Group

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Speaker 4: of Five conferences as well. Just do our best here

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Speaker 4: with Brandon, with Bud's help, to try and give you

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Speaker 4: a good thirty thousand foot view of what went on

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Speaker 4: in the world of recruiting in this particular recruiting cycle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're going to get HERM. Edwards

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Speaker 1: good signing day. I think there's good stories. I think

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited not just to hear about how the

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Speaker 4: The other point of note before we jump right in

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Speaker 4: with Brandon Hoffman from twenty four to seven, there will

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Speaker 4: be another recruiting show. We're planning on it next week

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Speaker 4: and it will be titled How Recruiting Works. It's a

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Speaker 4: We talked to Brandon, we talked to Bud, We talked

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Speaker 4: So not ours, not ours, no no, no, gonna do

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Speaker 1: We should do a listening party for the How College

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Speaker 1: Let's invite Rick Rubin just like let people jam out

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Speaker 1: to the newest episode, Ty, I think it's a banger.

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Speaker 4: Can have people facebook live or periscope themselves or just

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Speaker 4: a virtual listening party.

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Speaker 4: On that note, let's get to our friend Brandon Huffman.

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Speaker 4: He's been on this show countless times. On this very day,

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Speaker 4: he is now with twenty four to seven Sports Brandon

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Dan, Ty.

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Speaker 3: It's like a lot of years, a long time. It

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Speaker 3: was so long ago. I was with Scout back when

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was a different time.

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Speaker 4: So how are you, and more importantly, how have you

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 3: I am actually kind of enjoying this secondary one because

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Speaker 2: But it's been interesting.

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Speaker 3: There's still been a lot of late drama, as you

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Speaker 4: Did you have a particular favorite in the announcement category,

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Speaker 3: You know, I still think back to an Isaiah Kroll

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Speaker 3: Animals are a scene of the past, hats are a

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Speaker 4: Regarding the actual players, Brandon, every class is strong at

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Speaker 4: one position, not so strong at another. Where were the

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Speaker 3: I would say that strengths are certainly at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: And this is probably the best one through three punch

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Speaker 3: He reclassified to be a part of the twenty eighteen class,

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Speaker 2: Daniels in there as well.

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Speaker 3: Each of those three guys are going to have a

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Speaker 3: Hunter Johnson who was there last year. But both those guys,

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Speaker 3: Lawrence and Field's got one hundred plus graved on twenty

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Speaker 3: behind him at number ninety nine, number six overall players.

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Speaker 3: So great quarterback class, a outstanding defensive line class. I

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Speaker 3: four and five are all defensive ends. Eo Biaoma, who's

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Speaker 3: pass rushers and quarterbacks are the two kind of standards

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Speaker 2: In the running back class.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've gotten some pretty good running back groups

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Speaker 3: I see their recruitments inflated a little bit because there

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you something just because you mentioned justin

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Speaker 1: fields and we'll talk about this later with Bud Elliott

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Speaker 1: with regard to Georgia and the SEC, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of how this year's Georgia class ranks and I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: seven five stars, which is more than double the rest

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Speaker 1: of the SEC combined. How does this to you compare

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Speaker 1: to some of the great individual classes we've seen through

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've been covering recruiting for now decades. I

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four USC, the Whitney Lewis year. You know,

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Speaker 1: there have been some extraordinary classes. Florida has had great

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Speaker 1: individual classes. How does this compare to the top of

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Speaker 3: I mean this is up there because you've got seven

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Speaker 3: a third of the a little bit more than a

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Speaker 3: third of the lesson the fourth I'm not great in math,

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Speaker 3: but the top twenty five players in the country are

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Speaker 3: all heading to Georgia. But then there's even more talent

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Speaker 3: after that top end group of guys. But you've got

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Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback in justin Fields, You've got a franchise

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Speaker 3: running back into mere White. You've got the best tackle,

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Speaker 3: You've got Bren Cox from in State. You've got Trey Hill,

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Speaker 3: who he and Jamari Sawyer are probably six hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty pounds of just absolute nastiness at the guard position.

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Speaker 3: Where it looked like they might have even been done today,

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Speaker 1: Let's go back west, just because I brought up USC

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Speaker 3: Well, mean, if you just look at where they finished

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Speaker 1: So starting with UCLA. And this might not be your answer,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have to say UCLA is definitely

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Speaker 2: He ended up being the.

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Speaker 3: Despite being a BYU commit. The Huskies get him and

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Speaker 3: He's coming into southern California. He's going toe to toe

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Speaker 4: nine nationally. Had a big signing today with Tanner McKee

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Speaker 2: I think it is more of the same.

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Speaker 3: Remember a year ago they signed a smaller class, but

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Speaker 3: You know who knows that kJ Castillo holds onto that

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Speaker 3: The problem is they're not going to even get him

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Speaker 1: Brandon, I would imagine Oregon fans, who I definitely do

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Speaker 2: To end it with Senase who will definitely get that

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Speaker 2: bitter case.

438
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Speaker 1: Out of their mouth fair enough. And I was talking

439
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Speaker 1: to our pal Yogi Roth about this, who is convinced

440
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Speaker 1: this is the best quarterback class that the Pac twelve

441
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Speaker 1: or Pac ten has ever signed in a season. And

442
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Speaker 1: you've been covering the conference when it had ten teams

443
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Speaker 1: and twelve teams. Does that ring true to you. Obviously, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford, Washington,

444
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: Utah all pulling blue chip quarterbacks. I'm sure I'm forgetting somebody,

445
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Speaker 1: But is the level of quarterback entering the PAC twelve

446
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Speaker 1: really that high?

447
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Speaker 2: I do think it is, because it wasn't just those schools.

448
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Speaker 3: It's also you know, Washington State grabs a four star

449
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: record setting quarterback from Utah and cam and Cooper, and

450
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: then you know, you already throw in the fact that

451
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: you've got J. T. Daniels reclassifying, You've got Jacobson transferring in.

452
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Speaker 2: You have Washington landing a pair of four stars. Oregon

453
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: State goes and gets a kid.

454
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Speaker 3: Who was criminally under recruited last year after being the

455
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Speaker 3: white Washington State player of the Year, decided.

456
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Speaker 2: To go to the JUCO route and ends up picking

457
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Speaker 2: Ardent State. So I look at this.

458
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Speaker 3: Class depth wise, and I think that the Pac twelve

459
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: top to bottom hasn't had a quarterback class quite this

460
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Speaker 3: strong in some time. And I think a lot of

461
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Speaker 3: that's attributed to the emphasis at this conference place is

462
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Speaker 3: on finding quarterback.

463
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of.

464
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Speaker 3: Attributed to the fact that the West typically produces more

465
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: quarterbacks per capita. I mean this those look like a

466
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Speaker 3: great year for Georgia considering Fields and Lawrence. But I

467
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 3: think if you look at the West, there were a

468
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Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks in this class that I think were

469
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Speaker 3: guys that they're not cliped forward holder Tis.

470
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Speaker 2: There's some years where you.

471
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Speaker 3: Have top quarterbacks, but they're the top based on the

472
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Speaker 3: context of that class, but they're guys that you don't

473
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Speaker 3: never expect to be starters. I'm looking at this PAC

474
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Speaker 3: twelve class right now, and between JT. Daniels, Darian Thompson

475
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: Robinson alone, you've got a couple of potential future starters there.

476
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Speaker 3: Tanner McKee probably starts for Stanford at some point. You know,

477
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: Tyler shuk could be the guy who's next in line

478
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: to take over for Justin Herbert at Oregon. And then

479
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: you have the transfer that Jacob Eeson, he could be

480
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: the next guy Jake Browning, or it's one of the

481
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: two freshmen you have Jack Coletto at Oregon State, who

482
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Speaker 3: is going to be expected to come in a play

483
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Speaker 3: right away. So I think Yogi is definitely onto something

484
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Speaker 3: by saying that this is one of the best classes

485
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Speaker 3: because of the depth of the talent, the quarterback position.

486
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Speaker 4: Real quick, Brandon, before we move over to the Big twelve.

487
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Speaker 4: It was sort of a running joke on this show

488
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Speaker 4: when Herm Edwards came over to ASU and tried to

489
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Speaker 4: implement this new model for recruiting, for building the ASU program.

490
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Speaker 4: How is that going? Is that working on the recruiting side?

491
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Speaker 4: What are people saying about what HERM Edwards is doing

492
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Speaker 4: in Tempe?

493
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Speaker 3: Well, aside from all the Herm Edwards is that we're

494
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: going to be blessed with over the next few years.

495
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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, ASU close really strong. They're number

496
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Speaker 3: thirty six in the country. They had one of the

497
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: smallest classes back in December. But here we are on

498
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: National signing Day and they landed three four stars today

499
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: and two highly ranked three stars to close this out.

500
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Speaker 3: And I think one of the things that as did

501
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: that was really smart. One of the things that Edwards

502
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: did that was smart was he went and hired some

503
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: assistant coaches who understood recruiting. One of those was Tony White,

504
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: who'd probably been the best recruiter in the Mountain West

505
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: over the last decade. A couple of times he was

506
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: a mount and West recruiter of the Year. Really helped

507
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 3: build the San Diego State program from a recruiting standpoint,

508
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: they hire him and then Antonio Pears. Now he's never

509
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: been a college coach before, but he'd been the head

510
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: coach at Lombach probably for the last couple of years.

511
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: He'd been a part of the Nike Opening Tour, so

512
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: he was traveling to the Nike Openings around the country.

513
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: He'd worked at the Nike Opening Finals, but he coached

514
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: at the school that's produced more NFL players than any

515
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: other school in the country. And then to top it off,

516
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 3: his own son was recruited two years ago. He's playing

517
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: at Boise State now he's a starter there. So Antonio

518
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: Pierce understands it as a high school coach, he unders

519
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: understands it as a father, and understands it as a

520
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: guy who went through the recruiting process as a JUCO player.

521
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Speaker 3: And so they kind of turned into Pierce loose in

522
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: southern California. He's a big reason they got Merlin Robinson

523
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: and then the two Long Beach Quality four sad they

524
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: got the Shari Crosswell and Jermaine Lolay. Those were all

525
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: because of Antonio Pierce. So if Firm Edwards doesn't quite

526
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: understand what recruiting entails. He at least has hired some

527
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: assistants that completely understand it. And that's going to be

528
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: the surprise when people look at these final rankings, and

529
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, with all the jokes and the chuckles that

530
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: Firm Edwards has produced over these last couple of months,

531
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Speaker 3: they got a class that I don't think other people

532
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: are going to be laughing at because there's some talent

533
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: in this class.

534
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Speaker 4: All right, let's move over to the Big twelve. The

535
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: big story in the Big twelve, I think is what

536
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: went on in Austin Tom Herman with a huge recruiting hall,

537
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 4: a bigger class, twenty seven guys, nineteen of which came

538
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: from the great State of Texas. A monster back end

539
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 4: of the recruiting class in Caden Stearns at Safety as

540
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 4: well as bj Foster, both of whom are from the

541
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Speaker 4: state of Texas. When you look at what Tom Herman did,

542
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: is this sort of a transformational class that will take

543
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Speaker 4: them to the next level.

544
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: There's no question, Because one thing Texas needed to do

545
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: was to get back those kids in the state of Texas.

546
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: It was something that Charlie Shawan had kind of a

547
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: roller coaster a bit. It was something that Mack Brown

548
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: had kind of struggled with towards the end of his regime.

549
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: With Kevin Sumlan starting to become that cheap program in

550
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: the state of Texas, the Holmer's kind of lost their way. Well,

551
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: Herman realized, if you have an entire year to recruit

552
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: these guys as opposed to four or five weeks, which

553
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 3: he did when he came over from Houston, you're going

554
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: to have that much more success. And so Texas signed

555
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: six of the top seven players from the composite rankings.

556
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: But more importantly, they're at positions where those are guys

557
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: that can come on and make a difference early. You've

558
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: got great defensive backs from Jalen Green, plus the three

559
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: headed safety monster with the Marvin Overshawn, Kayden Sterns, bj Foster,

560
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 3: Foster was fantastic in the under Armour game, Cayden Sterns

561
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: with the MVP of the Army ball. And then you

562
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: got Brendan Eagle, the big physical receiver from Texas as well.

563
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: Then you got a couple other corners, DeShawn Jamison and

564
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: Anthony Cooks. So when you're in the Big twelve and

565
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: in a conference that can light up the scoreboard, and

566
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: sometimes people question do they even play defense in the

567
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: Big twelve When you can go and sign six premier

568
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: defensive backs from your own backyard, That's one way.

569
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Speaker 2: That kind of helped remedy that situation.

570
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: So I think Texas and obviously Tom Herman understanding the

571
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: importance of recruiting in state, they're going to kind of

572
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: see that trend continuing in years in the future, because again,

573
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be cool again to go

574
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: to Texas for those in state kids.

575
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: What did Tom Herman do outside of maybe hiring some

576
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: guys who understand Texas better than the previous regime, because look,

577
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: the results on the field were here and there wasn't

578
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: necessarily a giant leap forward for Herman in the twenty

579
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: seventeen season, But now you look at the recruiting class

580
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 4: and clearly he has done something right.

581
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: What changed again, I think part of it was getting

582
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: those two years at Houston, And what really helped there

583
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: is because Houston, you know, as good of a Group

584
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: of five program as it is, it doesn't necessar really

585
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: have that national appeal that a lot.

586
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: Of Power five schools have.

587
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: And so while Texas and Texas A and M have

588
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: the ability to recruit outside the state Houston, you.

589
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: Kind of have to focus on the in state kids.

590
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: So what he did when he went from Ohio State

591
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: to Houston is really focused on developing great relationships with

592
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: the high school coaches in the state of Texas, whether

593
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: those were Houston area coaches, whether those were Dallas area coaches,

594
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: whether they were coaches in San Antonio and all around

595
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: the Lone Star state. He did a good job of

596
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: really developing those relationships even though he was just a

597
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: Houston at the time, so that when that Texas job

598
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: came open, those relationships had already been established. This wasn't

599
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: like Charlie Strong coming from Florida and then Louisville and

600
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: now being thrown into the pit of Texas and trying

601
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: to recruit against you know, at that time in Art Briles,

602
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: at that time at Cliff Kingsbury, you know who's at

603
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: Texas Tech. Guys who have had experience that understood what

604
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: Texas football recruiting was like. And even when Kevin Fumblin,

605
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: when Charlie Strong got there, Kevin Summan has things really

606
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: going strong at that point. Well, now Herman has those

607
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: two years to kind of lay in the weeds, getting

608
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: to know the local coaches, getting to know the local talent.

609
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: So when he made the move to the Flaship University,

610
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: he already had those relationships established and he understood what

611
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: it meant to recruit the state of Texas. So I

612
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: think that those two years very much an underrated aspect

613
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: of why he has has had the quick success to

614
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: success as a recruiter in state.

615
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Speaker 1: All Right, now, with Texas behind us, let's move on

616
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Speaker 1: to the class of the conference. The premier team in

617
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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. The Iowa State Cyclones did a really

618
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: nice no, well, actually, Iowa State did actually do a

619
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: really nice job this year. But let's talk Oklahoma because they,

620
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Speaker 1: I would say a little bit quietly because what everybody

621
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: sort of was paying attention to with Oklahoma was they

622
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal season. They win the conference, They have

623
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: a terrific Rose Bowl that comes up just short for

624
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: the for the Sooners, but this is an excellent class.

625
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: They addressed defensive line issues. If anybody saw that game,

626
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: they that you know there was some work to be

627
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: done up front. They get a blue chip quarterback, they

628
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: get a great corner, they get an unbelievable offensive tackle.

629
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Speaker 1: This Oklahoma class looks to be as good as recent

630
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Sooner classes, and they didn't seem to rely like on

631
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: recent years going into California as much. What is it

632
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: about this Oklahoma class that stands out?

633
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: You know? I think I like the fact that there

634
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: is a heavy focus on the Midwest and on the Midlands.

635
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys, you know, they go down

636
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: into IMG. Now both of you guys are originally from

637
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: southern California with Bookie Radley Hiles and TJ. Pledger, But

638
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: they were at IMG and they were able to get

639
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: Pledger to commit early and then hold off a lot

640
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: of school's making a late charge. Bookie Radley Hiles has

641
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: originally committed in Nebraska and then when that program kind

642
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: of imploded under Mike Riley, he came back on the market.

643
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: Oklahoma got him, They went over to Missouri, they got

644
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: Ronnie Perkins from over there. They went down into Texas,

645
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: they got some key guys. But really, to me, what

646
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: was the most impressive part was keeping the two best

647
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: players in the state of Oklahoma, offensive lineman bray Walker,

648
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: who I watched him both at the US Armel American

649
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: Bowl and then at the Polynesian Bowl, and he will

650
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: remind Oklahoma fans this is comparisons that made a bunch,

651
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: But he reminds me of Orlando Browanns, who I saw

652
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: at the Central Fidelis game his senior year. Big massive guy,

653
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: great walker for the six seven, three hundred and twenty pounds,

654
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: moves like he's so light on his steed and he's

655
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: just a monster. He's a big kid, and he's not

656
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: even the biggest off at the tackle. They got in

657
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: this class because they went down to Texas and got

658
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: Darryl Simpson who's six seven, three hundred and forty pounds.

659
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: So they did a good job of recruiting that kind

660
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: of that Midlands part of the country, both in Oklahoma

661
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: and down to Texas, going over to Missouri to get

662
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: some tey guys, and then just kind of being very

663
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: selective with the players they got outside of the Midland regions,

664
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Speaker 3: a couple of kids from Florida, a couple of kids

665
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: from California, and really making that focus being kind of

666
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: that middle part of the country where they really have

667
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: pass of success in the years past with Missouri.

668
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: Obviously in state and Oklahoma and then still grabbing key

669
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Speaker 2: guys from the state of Texas.

670
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Is there a class in the Big twelve and the

671
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: conferences in this I mean, in a compliment, it's so specific.

672
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know what you're getting with West Virginia football.

673
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: You know what Texas Tech is going to look like,

674
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: you know what TCU is going to be, just stylistically

675
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: and the type of kids, the size and speed, the

676
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: athleticism that they're able to attract. Is there a class

677
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve that you know might not be

678
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: top fifteen or top twenty, but you look at overall

679
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: what they were able to attract and in your mind

680
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: you think, man, a lot of these guys are going

681
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: to succeed because they made great decisions about where their

682
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: talent matches up with what coach, school system, et cetera.

683
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Iowa State really good class. I think

684
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: you know, this year was obviously a pretty exciting year

685
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: for Iowa State fans with what Matt Campbell was able

686
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: to do, with some of the wins that he was

687
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: able to pull off. They kind of sneakily signed it

688
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: a very good class. Got a couple of quarterbacks, one

689
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: Rail Mitchell led Saint John Bosto to a state championship

690
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: game his junior year, and then a senior got banged up.

691
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: They came up short a speed, a guy who's a

692
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: true duel threat. His mom was a former American gladiator.

693
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: He's already on campus. And then they got rock Furry,

694
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: who was kind of under recruited to a lappable sense

695
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: up until mid December. Only offer was Northern Arizona and

696
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: then Boise stayed offer. Well, he doesn't sign in in December.

697
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: The next tho, rock Furry is choosing between Alabama, Texas,

698
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: A and M and Iowa State, but he ended up

699
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: picking Iowa State because he felt that comfort level there.

700
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: So they got a couple of pretty good quarterbacks there.

701
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: But you know, Matt Campbell did a good job. He

702
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: went into Ohio, He's got some roots, got Joseph Skate,

703
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: a four star receiver from up there. He got some

704
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: good juco guys that could come in and play right away.

705
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: And so Iowa State's not necessarily a school you think

706
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: is going to be able to recruit nationally, but they

707
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 3: actually did a good job of recruiting nationally. And then

708
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: the one that has become everybody's favorite, punching bag for

709
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: the last few years, and that's Kansas.

710
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: And what the most remarkable thing about.

711
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Speaker 3: Kansas is they went into the state of Louisiana got

712
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: two four star defense all purpose back, defensive back, four

713
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: star guys that had plenty of SEC offers. Not only

714
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: do they get those guys to commit, they held on

715
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: to them because when they committee, I think everybody was like, Okay, yeah,

716
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: that's cute. Kansas got their commitments. But when they really

717
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: start getting recruited, then we'll see what really happened. These

718
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: guys doubled down on their commitment to Kansas. Anthony Williams

719
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: and Curry and Harris, both the New Orleans area.

720
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: Kids, and they stuck with the Jayhawks.

721
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: And so you look at their class and you look

722
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: at the ranking of where they stand in the Big Twelve,

723
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: and it's kind of surprising because we're not used to

724
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: seeing Kansas beating up that high. But sure enough, Kansas

725
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: there with the number eight class in the conference and

726
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: two four stars seventeen three stars by Kansas standards. That's

727
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: the kind of class that you really need to have

728
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: if you want to get out of the goldens of

729
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve and just try to look competitive.

730
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Speaker 4: Let's close out the Big Twelve. I want to talk

731
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: about TCU. I can never seem to accurately project TCU

732
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: when you look at the recruiting class. Did Gary Patterson

733
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: do a good job here? I've heard from a couple

734
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: people who feel like it's a sneaky good class. How

735
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: does it stack up to you?

736
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: It's the number three class in the Big Twelve, behind

737
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: Texas and Oklahoma, and really, with the way Texas and

738
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: Oklahoma recruit, finishing as the number three classes almost like

739
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: finishing first when you compare it to the rest of

740
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: the conference.

741
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: And that's what TCU is. It's heavy on in state kids.

742
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: But they went over into Louisiana, got a four star

743
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: duel threat quarterback and Justin Rodgers he signed a December.

744
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: He's already on the field, I'm sorry, already on campus.

745
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: And then they kind of spread out a little bit

746
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: and got a few more players out of Louisiana. And

747
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: then they went into Mississippi, which you kind of expect

748
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: because a little bit more close. But then they have

749
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: a guy from really by backyard. We live on the

750
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: same hill. His daughter and his sister and my daughter

751
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: go to school together. Ben Wilson, a four star linebacker

752
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: from Sumner, Washington who had a bunch of tacked roll

753
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: boxers that went down, fell in love with what Gary

754
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: Patterson does as a coach, home in love with what

755
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: CAC is doing as a program. TCU doesn't really need

756
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: to recruit the West Coast all that much, but that's

757
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: two years in a row that TCU has gone into

758
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 3: Washington and grabbed the kid and grabbed the Pac twelve

759
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: commit So you know, Gary Patterson decides that he wants

760
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: to expand kind of his recruiting at a little bit.

761
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: I think that could give some problems to the Texas

762
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma's because he's starting to really show that longevity

763
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: and he's not going or no matter how many times

764
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: like Mark Few, no matter how many times he's mentioned

765
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: with every other head coaching job, he just continues to

766
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: plug the way down there at TCU. And I think

767
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: that that success that hadn't the Big twelve in the

768
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 3: last few years is allowing him to recruit a little

769
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: bit more nationally if he so chooses.

770
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: All right again, his name is Brandon Huffman. You could

771
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: find him now at twenty four seven Sports. Just to

772
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: round out your composite top ten here before we let

773
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 4: you go, talked a lot about Georgia, but Ohio State, Texas,

774
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: USC Penn State rounds out the top five, followed by Clemson, Alabama, Miami, Oklahoma,

775
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: and Notre Dame branded Throughout the entire recruiting cycle, was

776
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 4: there any one story, anyone recruit something that you looked

777
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: at and you said, Wow, that's that's an exciting story

778
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: to follow, You know, I.

779
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: Would probably say it's the one thing that And it's

780
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: kind of happened in the last two days. This Australian

781
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: kid that Utah got a commitment. He's actually the first

782
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: guy to sign on National Signing Day because it was

783
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: nighttime last night in Australia was more or in the

784
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: US with the morning time in Australia. A kid named

785
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: Thomas Yasman. He's a childhood kind of a schoolboy rugby

786
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: star in Australia, had never played football before, and Utah

787
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: goes in, brings him in on an official visit and

788
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: they end up signing him. The guy's never played football

789
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: and now a Pac twelve school, a Power five program

790
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: is bringing him in, not as a specialist, not as

791
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: a kicker, or a punter, but to be an outside

792
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: linebacker slash defensive end. And so you kind of had

793
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 3: some boring storylines. And then boom, Utah goes and hires

794
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: one of the Signs, one of the best young rugby

795
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: players in the world who'd never played football. And now

796
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: you just know how it works in Utah. This is yeah,

797
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: being like or four year starter and end up being

798
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: an NFL draftic. It's all gonna be because Kyle Willingham

799
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: is smart enough to know, Hey, let's go down to

800
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: Australia and find some of these rugby players.

801
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: Incredible all right again, his name Brandon Huffman. Find them

802
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,560
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803
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: it's been a long day for you, but as always,

804
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,719
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805
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: know how you do it and reciting it to us

806
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: in a way that makes sense. So thank you so much.

807
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks guys, thanks for having me, and we'll do

808
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: it again next year for sure, all.

809
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: Right, Dan, So thanks again to Brandon Huffman m HM

810
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,120
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Speaker 4: the movement. Do it all right? Is Bud situated?

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Speaker 3: Now?

895
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: We have Bud Elliott the I mean, how many titles

896
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: does he how many hats does he wear? Right now?

897
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: So he is the editor of Espionation Recruiting. That's the

898
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: most important thing. He now has a team and works

899
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: with the Espanation College football staff. There's multiple platforms. There's video,

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00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: there's audio, buds, buds and Mogul tie and I'm wearing

901
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: a hat, really wearing wearing a hat right now?

902
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: How you doing, man?

903
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: Oh buddy, doing well?

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: Do well?

905
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: Man?

906
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: Just you know, closing out signing day. Good signing days

907
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: as sort of opposed two years past with you know,

908
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: what's the difference to you in terms of how today

909
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: has gone with the early signing period in mid December. Yeah,

910
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: a little bit less hectic. I think in general, our

911
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: audience on Inspianation I always think about it is a

912
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: little bit more of a casual recruiting audience because from

913
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: my perspective, if you're a crazy recruiting die hard, you're

914
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: probably paying a subscription to one of the sites, right,

915
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: so you use us to supplement maybe, you know, you

916
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: get your ten thousand foot view of things. So a

917
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: lot of I think our fans, some of them probably

918
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: didn't know there was an early signing period, but in

919
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: the future years, I think they probably will. It's been

920
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: an interesting day, a little bit less hectic than previous

921
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: signing days. But the early signing period also creates this

922
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: dynamic where you know, instead of being at like an

923
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: eleven on National Signing Day, you're kind of at like

924
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: an eight for six weeks, you know, starting write poor

925
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: Christmas with the early period and then rolling up into this.

926
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: And it's also shifted the recruiting calendar. You know, I've

927
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: had to look at twenty nineteens and twenty twenties earlier

928
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: than I normally think I will, right fair, So diving

929
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: into twenty eighteen, which is now old. Is there a

930
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: story beyond Georgia's class is filthy and borderline unprecedented. I

931
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: think the main takeaways are, like you said, George's class,

932
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: and when I say filthy, I mean that in a

933
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: good way. Just to be clear, I mean Georgia signed

934
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I think they signed more five stars in the rest

935
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: of the SEC put together.

936
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had seven, seven five stars. They doubled the

937
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: s the SEC. The rest SC had three total.

938
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: Georgia had seven total just today are yeah, Yeah, that's ridiculous.

939
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we're literally talking about this Georgia class on

940
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: paper as one of the best classes of all time,

941
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, with with some of those USC and saying

942
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: classes with one of those Urban Meyer classes. You know,

943
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: I think it was the year they signed Serie Floyd

944
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: and those guys. They just did a tremendous job. The

945
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: other thing I think is the to borrow like a

946
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: Fantasy baseball term here sort of the Stars and Scrubs element.

947
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: In talking to coaches, what you hear is, you know

948
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot of our best targets are still out there

949
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: after the early signing period, but there's not that like

950
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: just you know, high quality player, we can go get

951
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: the drop off like so many of these, like let's

952
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: just call them good players they signed early. You know,

953
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: look at a Minnesota or a Toledo or a suttern

954
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: miss or a TCU. They signed a lot of kids

955
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: that I feel like a lot of programs really wanted

956
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: to wait right and just hey man, look we don't

957
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: overgra space for you. But like so you know in

958
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: talking like three star with four star flashes, yeah, exactly it.

959
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: Plan a's were still there, but like there weren't enough

960
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: Plan b's and Plan c's and Plan d's. A lot

961
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: of this is like Plan A and Plan F. It

962
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: really is kind of the Stars and Scrubs approach. You know,

963
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: the pay in seventy five bucks for Mike trout of

964
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 1: auction and fill out the rest of your your auster

965
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: with one dollar players. That's been a big time difference,

966
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: and I think we are seeing and as recruiting media,

967
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: we have to be watched this, like the profiles of

968
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: these kids being elevated because they didn't sign right, Like,

969
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: there's no question on these three stars are getting more

970
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: attention than otherwise would. Okay, so let's talk about Georgia,

971
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: because Georgia has a class that if we're going to

972
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: be specific, and it's very hard to be specific with

973
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: so much talent, this looks to be the best offensive

974
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: line class in the country, especially inside. They've got a

975
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: pair of guards I believe who are outstanding. They may

976
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: have the best quarterback in the country. They may have

977
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: what the best running back in the country. They may

978
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: have the best outside linebacker in the country. Where is

979
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: this class particularly strong? Who are the names that people

980
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: listening to the show, even if they're not a Georgia fan,

981
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: will know sooner rather than later. Okay, justin Fields, who

982
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: I've compared to a taller, bigger Russell Wilson in terms

983
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: of playing style and ability. He's also a baseball guy,

984
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: so I think the comp fits, sir. In terms of style.

985
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's quite as talented. He may be

986
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: more talented physically, but Russell Wilson's pretty good.

987
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: Right.

988
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: Zamir White was by far the best running back in

989
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: the country this year. He towards ACL late in the season,

990
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: but when he was healthy, he was like the no

991
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: doubt guy at running back. Cad Mays is an elite

992
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: level office a tackle And it should be said, by

993
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: the way, if I can jump in, we're talking about

994
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: two excellent running backs gone from Georgia. Yeah, so that

995
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: is a wide open backfield.

996
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: See.

997
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: I mean they've recruited in the last couple of years,

998
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be big competition. If Zamir White is healthy,

999
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to keep him off the field, right,

1000
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: He's going to get carries. They signed Dalvin Cook's little brother,

1001
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: James Cook, as more of an all purpose type back.

1002
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: Good hands catch the ball to the backfield. Their combination

1003
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: of guards in Trey Hill and Jamari Sailor is probably

1004
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: the best pair of guards I've ever seen a team sign.

1005
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

1006
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: They got Newt Wilson out of Miami, who was a

1007
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: pretty nice like dB signing. Brenton Cox is an elite

1008
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: level defensive end. Tyson Campbell is the most athletic corner

1009
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: in the country, and he's also six'. Three Adam anderson

1010
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: is a freakish outside linebacker at A, Rome. Georgia just awesome.

1011
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: PLAYER i really Like Channing, tendall a guy who is

1012
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: rated outside the national top, hundred WHICH i think is.

1013
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: NUTS i Mean i've seen him a couple of times in.

1014
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: PERSON i like him a. Lot their tight End Luke

1015
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: ford is a baller AND i love his competitive. SPIRIT

1016
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: i mean he just. Goes he CAN i cuss on, here,

1017
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: yeah go for. It he just talks. Shit it gets

1018
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: up in everybody's, face immediately love it and backs it up.

1019
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: Great they Flipped Quay, walker another outside line linebacker From.

1020
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Alabama Nadad joseph is a really, nice like developmental long

1021
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: corner they got out Of. Miami Norland Azizo jaalai is

1022
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: a really like nice, long developmental defensive end who can

1023
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: give him a pass. Rush Tommy bush is one of

1024
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: my favorite receivers in the. CLASS i feel like you

1025
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: have your guys that you kind of, Like, HEY i

1026
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: see this, kid and he doesn't have big time offers

1027
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: yet or not rated highly. Yet i've been tweeting about

1028
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: him for over a. Year ever SINCE i saw him

1029
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: back at The nike camp In houston on a cold

1030
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: day on The Super bowl last. Year THAT i can't.

1031
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: Beat he stood out, There. Ty you can't, see But

1032
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: bud is. Sweating he is getting. Charge it's. Tired you

1033
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: want to know About you want to know About Justin? Fields, though,

1034
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: right we talked about him.

1035
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: BEFORE i, Mean i've brought this up on the show

1036
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: a bunch of. Times but from is. There he just

1037
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: made it as a true freshman into The National. Championship

1038
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: why Did Justin fields go To?

1039
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: GEORGIA i Think Justin fields thinks it's going to beat him.

1040
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: Out it's incredible AND i love. It and, look there's

1041
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: no Doubt fields is more talented Than Jake, from better,

1042
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: arm better, athlete and from is really good college football.

1043
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: Player for, Sure georgia is essentially guaranteed to have like

1044
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: super elite level quarterback in for the next three or four.

1045
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 4: Years it's an embarrassment of. Riches it's not a bad really,

1046
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: have but it seems to me like your true freshman

1047
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: who just got you to The National championship game might

1048
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: be the odds on starter not only this coming season

1049
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: but for the foreseeable. FUTURE i don't.

1050
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Know that's just, me all, right two words to a Tongue. Ailoa,

1051
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: okay because Literally Jalen hurts Took bama to the title

1052
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: game last year and or two years ago as a true.

1053
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Freshman as a true freshman scores what would have been

1054
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: the winning touchdown Had Deshaun watson not let his team

1055
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: down the field And tua wasn't. Scared, yeah and there's

1056
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: a good Chance georgia five thousand mills went from home

1057
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: and signed up for. It at Least justin's sister plays

1058
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: softball At, georgia and it's right close to his home

1059
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: there In. Atlanta and there's a good chance That georgia

1060
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: will put up a lot of points on teams and

1061
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: backups will come in And Justin fields will get time

1062
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: to prove himself in action even if he's not. Starting

1063
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: let's go through some other classes near the. Top tie is.

1064
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: There you don't spend thirty minutes On. GEORGIA i just

1065
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: don't think we have the. Time we only have the

1066
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: studio for a little bit ty elsewhere in THE. Sec

1067
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: what fascinates. You we've got just an outstanding resource and butt. Here,

1068
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: YEAH i, Mean i'm always interested in how new coaches.

1069
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: Fare and we've seen a fair amount of turnover in

1070
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: THE sec places Like, florida not just this, year but

1071
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: in the last couple of. Years, Right So, florida there's

1072
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: been recent turnover AT. LSU i know there was some

1073
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: disappointment there with their recruiting. Class But TEXAS a AND.

1074
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 4: M And Jimbo sure a guy you know really, Well Bud,

1075
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: Tennessee Mississippi, state oll Miss. Arkansas the list goes on

1076
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: and on of the new coaches that came into THE.

1077
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 4: Sec were there any that impressed you or let you

1078
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: down at least through one recruiting.

1079
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: Cycle let me start by saying, this the early signing

1080
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: period crushed every single new. Staff, yeah by, far like

1081
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: makes every single. One every one of these teams is

1082
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: below they're LIKE i would say previous four year. Average nobody. Improved,

1083
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean they. HAD i, Mean i'm just in

1084
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: speaking About. OREGON i Think Mario christobal was made official

1085
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: like three days. Before it's it's tough and at least

1086
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: that you, know that's a higher that offre continuity because

1087
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: he was already on the. STAFF i, mean these guys

1088
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: who come in that didn't have any existing. Relationships they

1089
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: were scrambling and early. SIGNING i mean some of these

1090
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: guys were having to sign kids like fifteen days after

1091
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: they got. Hired Jeremy pruit got hired what Like december, tenth,

1092
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: issue it was pretty late in the.

1093
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: Cycle you.

1094
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Know jimo did a real good job AT a and m.

1095
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: CLOSING i think they're going to make a lot of,

1096
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: noise especially in The houston. Area in twenty, Nineteen Dan,

1097
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: MILLAN i feel like got some difference makers on offense

1098
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: with with quarterback Hen Mary jones and Receiver Jacob. Copeland,

1099
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: obviously they were disappointed to not Flip nessa severa From

1100
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: miami and not Get tete freyre with the five star

1101
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: tackle who went To Ohio. State but they also have

1102
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: two really talented transfers coming in at receiver who could

1103
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: make a big time difference for The. Gator SO i

1104
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: know the fans are really disappointed, today BUT i don't

1105
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: think that class is as big of a disappointment as

1106
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: as Some ofator fans. Thinking and the real KEY i

1107
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: think if you are a new coach is you have

1108
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: to strike a balance between meeting your numerical needs so

1109
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: that you don't get in a situation where your death

1110
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: is totally, screwed and also going after enough talented players

1111
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: to where you can't just take a bunch of. Filler

1112
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: that balance is not easy to. Achieve you as a,

1113
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: Coach i've got to get in here and, Say, okay

1114
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: we're pretty good at this, spot this, spot this butt

1115
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: in this. Spot so we're only going to take like

1116
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: our level of player at these positions and in this,

1117
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: spot this, pot in this. Spot, man our depth is not,

1118
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: good and we have got to just make sure we

1119
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: take a body who if we had to put on a,

1120
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: field he wouldn't be a total, disaster regardless of how

1121
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: far down we have to go on our. Board pretty much,

1122
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: SO i think most of the teams did a good

1123
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: job with. That tennessee had a disappointing, day but, again

1124
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: that's a really hard. Situation ole miss is coming off

1125
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: a really difficult situation as. Well Mississippi state kind of

1126
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: recruited on part or where they normally. DO i, mean you,

1127
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: know six four, stars twenty three, kids that's not too.

1128
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Bad jimbo did the best job as far as closing

1129
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: things out. TODAY i Think mullen did a pretty good

1130
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: job from the time he was hired fair enough and

1131
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: let's go to the leg as literal elephant in the.

1132
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: Room alabama wins The National. Championship they lose both, Coordinators

1133
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: Brian able to THE, Nfl Jeremy pruitz To. Tennessee there's

1134
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: more attrition year over Yere they're losing two to three

1135
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: coaches and they still managed to recruit at least this

1136
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: year on a top ten. Level usually it's a top three.

1137
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: Level is what is what stands? OUT i guess About

1138
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: alabama's class this? Year what impressed you beyond the fact, that, like,

1139
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: oh they have a ton of talented. Kids what direction

1140
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: did they?

1141
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: Go the?

1142
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: Parentheses, yeah they only took nineteen. Kids, yeah so on

1143
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: like a per player, AVERAGE i think they're probably second

1144
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: or third in the nation In George george is gonna Be,

1145
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah they're they're they're. Averages it's sort of A stanford,

1146
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: class smaller but a high. Average. Exactly you mentioned it

1147
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: that the coaching turnover in back to back YEARS i

1148
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: think really Hurt alabama because you had a bunch of

1149
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: guys come in off last. Years they lost a lot

1150
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: of a lot of coaches off that runner up, team

1151
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: and they Lost lane and they, lost uh who was

1152
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: THE dc? There, well they Lost, LANE i mean had

1153
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: been and they lost somebody else to Although Mario cristobaul

1154
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: right To, Oregon Billy napier To Arizona. States they you,

1155
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: know obviously this Year Brian, dable like there is year over,

1156
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: year they thought they were going to Promote sark to offensive.

1157
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: Coordinator that like their, connections guys familiar With tuscaloosa and

1158
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: their recruiting cycle. Gone the back to back coaches leading

1159
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: Like pruitt carried that recruiting class a lot this year

1160
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: and then he takes. OFF i think that that Hurt alabama.

1161
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: Some and these kids didn't know The obama coaches like

1162
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: they normally. Would And nick's a tremendous, recruiter but it's

1163
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: hard for head coach to have personal relationships with, like you,

1164
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: know sixty top, targets, right and SO i think the

1165
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: turnover there hurt. Them that they really got some good

1166
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: players though in this. CLASS i mean a nomah of

1167
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: the defensive end out Of, baltimore out Of Saint Francis.

1168
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: IS i mean, legit if we didn't have the crazy

1169
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks this, year he would be a legitimate argument for

1170
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: the number one player in the.

1171
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: Nation.

1172
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: Wow patrick Chan, junior a lot of people think is

1173
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: the best corner out Of South florida since a guy

1174
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: Named Patrick. Johnson and if l fans AND lsu fans

1175
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 1: might know him As Patrick, peterson, yeah before he changed

1176
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: his name. Obviously Stefan wynn is a kid WHO i

1177
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: think is going to step in and immediately Be he's

1178
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: just that, classic like not super, long but six' four

1179
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Three bills bama five tech defensive end and, it's like,

1180
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: oh man we just we can't block. That guy they

1181
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: just kind of plug. Him in he's that, you know

1182
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: will COACH, At img he'll. Play early and the secret

1183
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: sort of Thing about alabama specifically is they pull in

1184
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: these blue chip. Defensive backs they don't have to play.

1185
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: Right away they get time to sort of season in

1186
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: the system with let's, be clear probably the best defensive

1187
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: backs coach in the Country And. Nick saban so it's

1188
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: one of those things where they have time to learn

1189
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: and to grow and they're not counted on. Right away

1190
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: and when they are in when they do need to get,

1191
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: into games whether it's as a nickelback, or whatever. They're ready.

1192
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: They're twenty they're twenty, one ridiculous and the kids they

1193
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: did get ARE really i will say that that. Is

1194
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: true they also like the kids they got. Are polished

1195
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: you're getting pats or. TANS kid i mean that dude

1196
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: was what a Three Time all pro and has been.

1197
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: DRILLED forever i think that's what makes a, special prospect

1198
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: that he is that polished and he is. THAT big

1199
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: i mean he's six one and a half two hundred

1200
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: and an elite. Level athlete josh job a kid they

1201
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: Flipped from miami like a, month ago kind of the.

1202
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: Same way just, you, know, big polished ready. To GO

1203
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: and i got some good developmental guys. As WELL but

1204
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: i feel like this Is a it's a strong class.

1205
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: For them it's not on par with they, normally sign

1206
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: but a lot of that is due to. The, size

1207
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: sure they didn't take them. Any kids nineteen is.

1208
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 4: Not many another team that we'd be remiss if we

1209
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 4: didn't talk about, their, Story. Obviously clemson clemson's been very

1210
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: much on the rise over the last couple. Of years,

1211
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: for sure won the national championship year ago in the

1212
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: playoffs again. THIS year I believe i saw bud that

1213
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: they got the top player from was it six or.

1214
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: Seven states this was quite a Class, for clebs and

1215
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: it does not appear as if it is slowing down

1216
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: anytime Soon, For, dabosweeney no.

1217
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: CERTAINLY not I Mean, trevor lawrence the number one quarterback in.

1218
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: THE country, i mean depend on who, you Ask but

1219
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: i'm A big lawrence. Fan too Out. Of Georgia, xavier

1220
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: THOMAS who i guess technically is the top Player, in

1221
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: florida although He's A south carolina kid who PLAYED, at

1222
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: img so, to me he's kind of like the top

1223
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: Player In. South carolina but still we'll give it. To Him,

1224
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: kJ henry who was an elite level Player At, north

1225
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: carolina big time defense vent who's probably gonna. Play early

1226
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: number one Player In Ohio. Jackson Carmen ohio state wasn't

1227
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 1: too happy about. Losing him that was the early. Signing,

1228
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: period yeah You Know, darien kendrick who's a really special playmaker.

1229
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: At receiver they also got a Kid Named, justin ross

1230
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: the number one Player in, alabama Arguably who i'm really

1231
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: high on, six'. Four two hundred he's, a basketball guy

1232
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: hadn't played a whole, lot of football but the catches

1233
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: he makes on his highlight tape just show a natural

1234
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: ability to body control and the ability to pluck the ball.

1235
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: With his hands if you can teach that guy in the,

1236
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: run some routes then that's going to. Be really scary

1237
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: and they just did. A great job they're just kind

1238
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: of there are a, lot on numbers but that'll happen,

1239
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: when you convinced like several first round picks to return

1240
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: to school instead.

1241
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: Of going pro when you LOOK, across THE acc and

1242
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 4: i want To Talk about florida state here, in A

1243
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 4: second because i know they're of particular, Interest to you

1244
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: but when you LOOK, Across, the, Acc bud obviously clemson

1245
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: has been the cream of the crop now for a couple.

1246
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 4: Of years running just relative to the other SCHOOLS, in

1247
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: the acc how do you compare the depth That clemsonto

1248
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 4: A Miami. OF florida state i.

1249
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: Think that if clemson had had those, guys go pro

1250
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: then the rosters would be pretty. Similar talent, Wise, You,

1251
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Know Clemson miami florida state roughly that They didn't That

1252
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: wilkins And bryant And Farrell and mitch hyatt on, the

1253
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: off highline but they. ALL come back i Do think

1254
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: that clemson's roster for twenty eighteen is a step above

1255
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: everybody else. In the league having that much talent and

1256
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: experience combined is. A big advantage as far as that

1257
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: their recruiting class against the rest of the, LEAGUE this

1258
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: year i think at the top end it's, really really

1259
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: strong and if they can build on that, next year

1260
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: too then they're going to be set up to be

1261
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: like A favorite of cora in the league for. A

1262
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: long time MIAMI is Steadily I think willie tagert probably

1263
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: did the best job out of any first year coach

1264
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: as far as salvaging what they had because they were

1265
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: in The Sixties with jima fisher left and then sort

1266
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: of that like high to. MID level range I Like

1267
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: what nc. State's doing it that's a staff with the

1268
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: number of young interject cruiter to identifying guys early. Getting

1269
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: Them on justin foente is doing. A nice Job vigen

1270
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: tech u and c had a very strong bounce back

1271
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: class after kind of a horrible year. On the Field

1272
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: they signed Barnes out of florida who was a four.

1273
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: OR five star i forgot what his. Final ranking was.

1274
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: Big time off it's a tackle that they took his.

1275
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: TEAMMATE as well i believe so that the top half

1276
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: OF the a sec has done done. A good job

1277
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: the bottom half they're just not winning BATTLES against. Their

1278
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: sec counterparts just, on that topic there are schools that

1279
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: are really good at identifying not, high level talent but

1280
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: talent that, fits really well that looks like they will.

1281
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: Develop into something is there anybody in the bottom HALF

1282
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: of the acc or is that what they need? To

1283
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: do better they need to be. MORE self Aware I

1284
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: think wake forrest is a really good job of that

1285
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: in a year, in year basis and then we call

1286
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: it the sweet. Spot right right if you, aim too

1287
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: low you won't have enough talent. On your roster if

1288
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: you aim too, high and miss then what's? Your backup

1289
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: plan the drop off there is. PROBABLY too significant i

1290
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: think that was something that will Must Champ at south

1291
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: carolina not to go BACK, to THE sec but i

1292
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: think year one they aimed a little. Bit, Too high okay,

1293
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: IN recent years i Feel Like like south carolina has

1294
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: done a really good job finding. Your, sweet spot hey

1295
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: we want to get in on a couple, high level

1296
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: kids and at the same time we realize we're not

1297
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: going to sign a billion high level Kids Because, it's

1298
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: south carolina so we need to find other kids who can.

1299
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: FIT our program i think SOME of, THE see teams

1300
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: i don't say they, aim too low but they're just

1301
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: not bringing in enough elite talent to really. Make a

1302
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: difference that that's where. The depth is that the teams

1303
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: at the TOP of the acc are just as talented

1304
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: as the teams in the Top Of. The inner league some, of,

1305
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: these teams though are not bringing in enough four and

1306
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: five starter Guys or any, in, SOME cases sure i

1307
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: will give, you, A name though i want to see if.

1308
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: This guy signed i'm not sure how, to pronounce this

1309
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: but this kid's. Film is Ridiculous, He's. From italy okay

1310
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: he Played Ball, at clearwater academy which is about an

1311
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: hour and a half. From My House clear Wire International.

1312
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: Habout kook, baldonado oh. GOD oh yeah i know about

1313
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: THIS case because i think He looked at oregon. A

1314
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: little bit i was sort of catching up with. All

1315
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: recruiting stuff he's a he's very, slim for, RIGHT yeah

1316
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: yeah i mean they got him listed, at six.' five

1317
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: two thirty i don't know if, he's actually two thirty

1318
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: but That's a guy that pitt did a great job

1319
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: getting in on and it would not surprise me if

1320
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: he is like an early round draft pick in. A,

1321
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: couple of, Years, Interesting All.

1322
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: Right bud florida. State Laid on us, Willy Taggert, Comes

1323
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: in jimbo fisher we've talked about. It on the program,

1324
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 4: maybe overplayed his Hand ENDS up AT. Texas A and

1325
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: m florida. State goes Out There they bring willie Taggert.

1326
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: Home back to florida how did he do in his

1327
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: first half psychic quarters cycle whatever you, want to call

1328
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 4: It Recruiting?

1329
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: Cycle at, florida state you know as Far As like by,

1330
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: florida state's normal standards it's it doesn't measure up because

1331
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: they're almost always like a top five team if you

1332
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: measure him against everybody else who's a new head coach

1333
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: with with the new, EARLY signing period dynamic i think

1334
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: they had probably far and away the best best job

1335
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: done considering how far. They had to go, NOW they

1336
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: killed receiver i Mean Just they got Treyshon. Harrison out

1337
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: Of Seattle, they got Jordan Young, they got Warren Thompson,

1338
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: they got keyshon Heldon They. Got to marcus adams they're

1339
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: switching to a spread or, more of a spread. You

1340
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: know type thing. They needed a receiver they went out

1341
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: and they just signed a bunch, of studs at receiver like.

1342
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: That's a huge win they kept a lot of really

1343
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: important pieces in the class Who were, waivering once, jimbo

1344
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: Left You, know linebacker Mary Gaynor, DEFENSIVE Tackle Robert Cooper.

1345
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: dB santae, SAMUEL jr and god i feel PRETTY old

1346
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: SAYING that i don't i don't know. If you guys.

1347
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: Do.

1348
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god yes And then They, got jayden would

1349
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: be who was one of the Top Players. On the

1350
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: west coast, THE kid literally Tweeted I wonder why florida

1351
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: state was too dumb, not to offer me and. Immediately

1352
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: got an off you GOT a five, star dB out, there,

1353
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: and they're like wait what the previous staff? Didn't offer

1354
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: this kid and literally the dude had Been Tweeting pictures

1355
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: Of Durwin james and jalen ramsey like all year and say.

1356
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: These are my idols, and FSU's old staff like I,

1357
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: told my reader tomahawk they weren't doing anything for. A,

1358
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: couple of months wow they really were just, asleep at

1359
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: the wheel which is how you end. Up in the

1360
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: Sixties In recruiting at florida state obviously because probably. Should

1361
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: never Be There and now florida state two of their

1362
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: most talented players in this Class Are. From The, West,

1363
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: coast west coast Yeah in that small now these kids

1364
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: Are Tweeting like, hashtag WEST coast knowles and i don't

1365
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: think that's going. To last long term but it'd be

1366
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: an idiot not to use their relationships you built over

1367
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: the last. Year if you're taggered so he did a.

1368
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: Good job with that they. Didn't get A Quarterback jimbo.

1369
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: Got james FOSTER today that was i think A Surprise

1370
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: to both FLORIDA state and to lsu, at least you know.

1371
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: OVER the past week i think last night they had

1372
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: a decent idea that he. Might not be coming but it's.

1373
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: A PRETTY deep class but i feel like they didn't.

1374
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: Reach too much either. They took twenty one there were

1375
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: a couple of KIDS on the board i know they

1376
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: could have extended offers to and they elected. TO pocket

1377
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: those scholarship i think next year they want to take

1378
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: like a twenty six or. Twenty seven man class so

1379
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: one of the things that you know has been very

1380
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: apparent in talking About these Top Classes, alabama NOW florida state,

1381
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: great dB class overall it seems like nationally and another

1382
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: school that did really well with defensive backs is. In

1383
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: that same conference miami did really well with defensive backs,

1384
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: and aside from that in terms of offensive, skill with,

1385
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: running back. WIDE receiver tight end i know they bring in.

1386
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: A Blue Chip quarterback It's. Jaron williams or williams this

1387
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 1: is a class that even as of, a few weeks

1388
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: ago people were saying this could, be, a top one

1389
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: two three class and ultimately didn't finish. Probably one or

1390
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: two but this is an Incredibly impressive Haul, from mark

1391
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: rex All his best class. Miami's, HAD in years okay i.

1392
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: MEAN it Really Is i like. Lorenzo lingard a lot

1393
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: now he's six, foot of buck ninety. But he runs

1394
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: track once he knocks, that track stuff off he's probably. Gonna,

1395
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: Be two ten now i'm not saying He's as talented,

1396
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: AS darren McFadden stylistically i would. Comp him to that he's,

1397
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: really a violent. SLASHER good Burst Downfield i like. Jared

1398
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: williams a lot that's A Great get from. Mark Rick

1399
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: to quarterback delane scaife is a big time Guard who They,

1400
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: signed brian high tower REALLY nice PLAYER at img who

1401
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: i think compliments the other. Receivers, in his, class well

1402
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: you know they got some Size With. Him and dak

1403
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: wiggins They Got tied end Breben Jordan Out, Of bishop

1404
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: gorman nestville severa was the best. Et in the. State

1405
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: they got him now THEY Did. With, on d lineman

1406
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: overall that's the second year in a row they've they've

1407
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: had some issues at that And this coming year miami

1408
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: has got to GET To get on d lineman and

1409
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: they got a lot of, playing time to offer and they,

1410
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: did this Year too so maybe i'll have to change

1411
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: up their. APPROACH some with That I. LOVE receiver mark pope.

1412
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean this guy if, you haven't seen This go.

1413
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: On our Facebook Page. Check out mark Pope they call

1414
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: him noodles and he just. He Just Destroys people al

1415
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: Blades junior. Obviously A. Miami legacy nice dB, some people

1416
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: were like? Is he a corner?

1417
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: IS he a.

1418
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: Safety i don't care that makes place now who'll figure

1419
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: out a? Hybrid position for me it's. A really nice

1420
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: class i think they hit their needs at REALLY every,

1421
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: spot the d line and they hit. Their needs with

1422
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: talent and it doesn't matter what position you play, in

1423
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: the defensive backfield because they All Just pick off notre,

1424
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: dame quarterbacks right exact, that's what they. Do discriminate, TIE

1425
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: transition go oh i forgot.

1426
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 4: A perfect setup. To my, Next. QUESTION thank you daniel

1427
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 4: i was Going To ask about Notre dame so filed

1428
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: yourkovic is the name that we have discussed ON this

1429
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 4: podcast for i don't know a couple months, now Here

1430
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 4: And there, but notre dame's class by all accounts. A

1431
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 4: top ten class. Depends where you look, maybe it's number ten,

1432
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 4: Maybe IT'S number, eight but i think all in all.

1433
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: A pretty good class seems to me like it's. Built

1434
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 4: around the essentials, They strengthened their line they've got a

1435
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 4: lot of, defensive players in there both at the second

1436
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 4: level with wine up good, linebacker class tie yeah and

1437
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: at the third level back. In the defensive backfield When

1438
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: You look, at notre dames class what? Stands? OUT to You.

1439
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: Well i like houston griffith A lot. The, dB nfl

1440
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: legacy obviously i've seen him QUITE. A bit at IMG

1441
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 1: another guy who i think is the vers tility to.

1442
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: PLAY Corner or safety i roll. AN extremely smart kid

1443
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: i mean you can move him around and he can

1444
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: be a big. TIME asset Your Defense, i like jack.

1445
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: Lamb he's A Hitter i've seen george taxis a lot

1446
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: the tight end y'all sign because he lives about thirty

1447
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: minutes From, Me. Down in naples florida he's, A. GUY

1448
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 1: frame wise tye i think is going to be a tremendous.

1449
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: Asset as. A blocker good hands i mean he's not

1450
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: the most athletic, kid in the world but if he's

1451
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: six seven to two forty, NOW as he's listed i

1452
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: think he can be two seventy wow and, be a

1453
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: really nice. Nice blocker for y'all that's a big time avenge.

1454
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: In The Run game love kevin. AUSTIN as a receiver

1455
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: i feel like He Was very. UNDERRATED michigan state legacy

1456
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: i believe tough guy sixty three two. HUNDRED dish big

1457
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: time i. REALLY like Like Him, i like shane simon the,

1458
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: Another Linebacker. Y'ALL sign lawrence keys i think it's kind

1459
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: of a. Specialty, kid you got yeah THEY picked him

1460
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: up i think today or last.

1461
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: Year.

1462
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: That, was today yeah, yeah he's super fast like hands,

1463
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: made need some work but he. Really he can scoot and,

1464
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: then there's a kid probably one of the lowest rated

1465
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: kids In your class who i've just seen him make play,

1466
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: after Play After Play. Man joe wilkins junior they went

1467
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: and got Him Out Out Of. North north fort myers

1468
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: that that. That DUDE'S a player and i feel like

1469
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: some kids from that Area and from the houston area

1470
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: this year were underrated. Because of the hurricanes so you

1471
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of a lot of games that were

1472
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: canceled so people didn't. Get to see him, sure you

1473
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: had games you Had games, moved to tuesday nights and

1474
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: so like some of these kids Were playing Games. On,

1475
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: tuesday and friday interesting so they really. It limited The exposure,

1476
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: like where wilkins lives they didn't have power for like

1477
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: fourteen days and it. Kind of disrupted Stuff So nice

1478
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: job notre dame going down. THERE to get him i

1479
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: Also Like the Safety. PAUL maloe, at indianapolis i mean

1480
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: he's rated nine and twenty. Eight In the nation that's

1481
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: i'm not gonna tell you he's like. A TOP hundred kid,

1482
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: that's i don't know a. Couple hundred spots low if

1483
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: you like that. Sticks, out to me oh And Then,

1484
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: they GOT noah Boykin who I knew florida in virginia

1485
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: were really hoping to get a, corner, that was today

1486
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: right that. Was a late signee Let's, stay in the

1487
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: midwest which IS not a phrase i like to say,

1488
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 1: All that often personally. But Here we are ohio state.

1489
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: Has an amazing class this is something. We Say every year,

1490
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: urban meyer amasses talent did a lot, of this early

1491
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: on but he LANDED the number one i believe offensive.

1492
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: Tackle IN the country and i still think they ended, up,

1493
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: WITH a quarterback right I think He's From texas after

1494
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: emery jones ended Up. Not going to columbus but this

1495
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: is it looks to be a great defensive Line Class.

1496
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: Defense overall ohio state it's just it's a. MACHINE at,

1497
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: this point i, mean is there like are there three

1498
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: players that stand out from this class or is it

1499
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: just like A top, to bottom. They're ridiculous All right

1500
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: nicholas tite frere to moorn offensive tackle in the? Nation

1501
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: who you? MENTIONED what separates him i think just athleticism

1502
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: and size and, yet, he's so raw okay like he's

1503
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: going to be so much better. Than he already is

1504
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: but he's a legit like he's like a skinny two eighty,

1505
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: Five at six six he's got a lot. Of room

1506
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: to Grow He's, built like tyron smith the guy that

1507
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: plays Left. Tackle FOR the cowboys WAS i like the

1508
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: d tackles they signed in a year that IS not a. Good,

1509
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: D tackle year okay so like position scarcity, is a

1510
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: real thing and not every year has the same amount

1511
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: of good players at. Exactly every single position some years

1512
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: are good years for one position and in the. Following

1513
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: year is not this WAS not a. GOOD d tackle

1514
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: year i don't actually think there was a true five. Stard,

1515
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: Tackle this, year wow, We've Seen you Know Christian wilkins

1516
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: And Dexter lawrence and rashaun gary and guys like. THAT

1517
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: in previous years i didn't see anybody. Like that this

1518
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: year SO if, you needed d tackles the number of

1519
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: really good. Ones was very small they went out inside

1520
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: the best. Two In The, country damn tarn vincent who

1521
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: is the son the giant like gigantic, son by The

1522
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: Way A former, All Pro nfl corner troy Vincent sure

1523
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: for the eagles about one hundred pounds. Bigger than the

1524
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: dad and then they also got The kid OUT of idaho's.

1525
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 2: Name.

1526
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: I can't pronounce, tommy ALWAYS watched this But. I. THINK

1527
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: it's toji yeah i like a couple kids in their

1528
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: class who are sort, of down ballot. KIDS if you Will,

1529
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: i think seven banks who is the Little Brother Of

1530
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: remember Marcel harris simon the gators kind of blew up

1531
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: his knee and never. Really had The career but seven

1532
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: banks is, a really smart players Good. ATHLETE out of

1533
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: orlando i think that was a. GOOD take For them

1534
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: i like. CAMERON babb a lot i know we, got

1535
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: hurt this year but when he has the, ball in

1536
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: his hands he's Like A running back ohio state able to.

1537
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: Get him in space And There's A Linebacker dallas caan't

1538
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: dallas gant rated outside. THE top one FIFTY i know

1539
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: there's i guess there's ten outside. Linebackers better than him

1540
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: i'm not entirely, you, DON'T say it sure i just

1541
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: give ONE of the kids i really.

1542
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 4: Like, in that class Okay Let's talk about penn state,

1543
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 4: as a casual observer perhaps. As an eager alum it

1544
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 4: Feels To me like penn state has accelerated on the.

1545
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 4: Recruiting side of things if you look at their recruiting

1546
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 4: rankings and where they've stacked up relative to Other Teams,

1547
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: in the, big ten just say over, the last four

1548
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: years it feels like it's getting stronger, each and every

1549
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 4: year and this year. Was certainly no different seems like

1550
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 4: they have a ton of momentum. On the recruiting side

1551
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 4: they obviously got A Guy like a micah parsons who folks.

1552
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 4: Are really excited about in. The early signing period they.

1553
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 4: Added some other names today when you, look at the

1554
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 4: class where do you think the Strength Is of What

1555
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 4: Penn state and james franklin went out? And, did this

1556
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: time well.

1557
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: Edge rusher for sure parsons is just he's a dog,

1558
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 1: Man JUST every, snap like i know he's got. Some

1559
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: attitude to. Him he goes. HARD he's a beast i also.

1560
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: Love the Utter Dn, they SIGNED jason oway who i

1561
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: think actually has potentially A higher. Ceiling than parsons now

1562
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: he's nowhere near the, player he is currently but always

1563
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: also a kid who's. Fairly new, to football he's learning he's.

1564
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: Growing into his body but, HE'S like six,' six i

1565
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: don't know two thirty is probably he, looks like a

1566
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 1: basketball player but he looks. Like one, of those, guys

1567
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: it's like, oh man if he develops that's a first

1568
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: round looking kid because he has the length in. The

1569
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: frame to do that and, speaking Of Length and frame

1570
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 1: receiver Justin Shorter is like, at terrell, owens clung. Style

1571
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: BODY size speed Ridiculous what. I like was shorter though,

1572
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: he's got the long speed but he also has the

1573
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: quickness and a lot of times you don't see that with.

1574
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: The guys who are tall are a lot of, the dudes, who,

1575
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: are tall they're builders right it takes a little time.

1576
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: To get up top speed he's got the instant go

1577
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: and the extra gear to get deep so that that's

1578
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: going to. Be really nice for THEM and then a

1579
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: guy i. Think he's gonna play early one of the

1580
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: highest floor players in THIS. Class, for me is pj

1581
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: mustafer a d tackle who's. Clearly been schooled really well not.

1582
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: The most freakish of athletes he's, a top one hundred

1583
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: kid but he's, not like a You Know he's not

1584
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: a dexter lawrence, type dude, at the, tackle great. HANDS

1585
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: really quick good technique i think he's a guy who

1586
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: could be. An excellent college football player you know what

1587
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: it seems like to me with When You look, at

1588
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: this penn state class they have three positions that are

1589
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: filled by allegedly the best player in the country At

1590
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: That Position Is in mike parson's ricky slade as an

1591
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 1: all Purpose back and. Just for shorter at receiver it

1592
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: seems to me when you when you look at, where

1593
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: these guys are from there's a, lot Of Like, that

1594
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: coast the, Atlantic Coast. There's you know new Jersey These

1595
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: guys seem like urban meyer would have been recruiting them

1596
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: and Getting, commitments from Them at storta and like maryland Guys.

1597
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: Would be going, to, alabama Whatever It is right and

1598
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: james franklin has done an amazing job of not, just

1599
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: keeping pa kids home but that whole region. Within two

1600
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: or three states he is he is. Building, a multi

1601
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: state Fence Well think about who ohio state did, try,

1602
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: TO recruit These Kids right i mean michael parsons that.

1603
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: THEY were on really Aggressively I, Know They, wanted justin

1604
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: shorter Rashid Walker the kid. At ohio state signed. TODAY

1605
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: they wanted him bad i mean they were one of the.

1606
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: Top two finalists for him there's a lot of These

1607
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: Kids that do Have Ohio, state offers. In ohio state

1608
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: absolutely one it's act. Serves a lot, of credit by

1609
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: the way Preliminary Calculations here looks like penn state is

1610
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: the newest member. Of, the Blue Chip, ratio hey so,

1611
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: penn state there you go.

1612
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 4: Explain The blood chip ratio so i'm. GLAD you brought

1613
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 4: that up i wanted to bring that up. Before we

1614
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 4: let you go but blue chip ratio is something that

1615
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 4: you've been beating the drum. On for a long time

1616
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 4: what exactly is that and how does that, pertain to

1617
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 4: how a school how a program. Does, in the foreseeable

1618
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 4: future sure.

1619
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: So basically it's Just a rolling four year look at

1620
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: did you sign more four and five star kids than

1621
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: two and three star kids over? The LAST four recruiting

1622
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: classes and, i went back and looked and basically everybody

1623
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: in the modern recruiting era that won a. National title has,

1624
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: done so So to me it's basically i'm not saying.

1625
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: It's perfect or it's infallible that are heavy broken organ,

1626
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: Almost snap, The streak twice yeah exactly but there's sort

1627
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: of like a it's almost like a necessary but not

1628
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: sufficient condition, if you hit the ratio you're not going.

1629
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: To win a national championship but, if you don't hit it. It's,

1630
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: really tough to do so like you probably need a

1631
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: team of like super veteran guys who are really, close

1632
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: to be in there, maybe like a you know, forty

1633
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: five percent type team and then you also have like.

1634
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: A transcendent quarterback type thing so there's usually between like

1635
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: ten and fifteen teams in a given year who have

1636
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: done so. Over The Previous, Four, cycles So. PENN state

1637
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: OKLAHOMA and texas i think i got, to RUN the

1638
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: numbers finally but i think they're all going to be

1639
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: back in the. Club this year fair enough and we'd

1640
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't talk. About ANOTHER big ten

1641
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: power and i badly want To, just START talking about

1642
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: wisconsin but i Will be kind and say michigan actually

1643
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: did not sign a class that was necessarily on par

1644
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: with what they've done the Past Couple. Of years under

1645
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: jim harbaugh Is the? Panic reasonable from michigan fans is

1646
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: it just an average down year and you still, like

1647
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: guys in, this class or you know is their reason

1648
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 1: to actually say we have to? Write THE ship recruiting

1649
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: Wise so i don't think michigan has like fallen. OFF

1650
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: recruiting wise a ton i think they had. An, unfortunate

1651
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: combination of, timing OKAY we all knew or i think

1652
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: most people knew that twenty seventeen was going to be a,

1653
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 1: down yere on the field given. All that they had

1654
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: lost combine That with the fact that michigan did not have.

1655
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: That many spots to give. They only took nineteen kids

1656
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: now MAYBE they could, have taken i don't. Know twenty

1657
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: or Twenty one i'm sure our michigan side, will correct

1658
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: me on this But under no circumstances with michigan are

1659
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: going to be able to fit like twenty seven. Kids

1660
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: and load this thing they capitalized last year on a

1661
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: strong year in Which They. Went to the orange bowl

1662
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: they had to weather the storm this year on the

1663
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 1: field and on the recruiting tree because they knew they weren't,

1664
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: going to be that. Good And, indeed they weren't for

1665
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: michigan twenty eighteen is, kind. Of, make A break right

1666
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: sure if michigan goes out and kicks ass, On the

1667
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: field this Year i'm pretty sure in michigan will go

1668
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: back and dominate. On, the recruiting trail, again sure if

1669
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: they don't then that's back to back years on the

1670
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: field where They're not very impressive and harborough's. Program is

1671
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: not making, progress and then guess what elite kids from

1672
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: out of state probably aren't going. To sign up for

1673
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: that so this has really sort of been a, like, a,

1674
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: Instead of buy sell hold. I'm just kind of holding

1675
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: i'm waiting to see what twenty eighteen, will be on

1676
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: the field and that'll strongly reflect in. The twenty nineteen

1677
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: recruiting class let's look At The rest, of THE big

1678
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: ten quickly because i know you have at least a

1679
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: couple of classes where you know they're not top, heavy

1680
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: with blue chip recruits but in terms of what these

1681
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: teams have done, recently and how they've improved either with new,

1682
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: coaches or just recent success Who Are teams in the

1683
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: big ten that you see as infusing with a. LOT

1684
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: more talent than usual, I, got to tell you dan

1685
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: in the days, after The early signing period, When, i'm

1686
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 1: talking to coaches hey? What's your, board look like you

1687
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: know is there a kid or two you really? Didn't want?

1688
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: To sign earlier who did the name that KEPT coming

1689
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: up Was was i can't believe minnesota got this kid

1690
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: to sign wow over and over again from Like, major

1691
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 1: powers In The southeast like receiver rashad baite rated the

1692
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: number sixty. One receiver in, a country. There's no way

1693
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: no way he's a Stud. GOT him Out of Georgia

1694
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: I think georgia and florida, state wanted him to wait.

1695
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: Interesting he didn't do, it minnesota got that kid a,

1696
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: kid who if he waited they would have absolutely signed

1697
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: him one of those, schools Or like you know a florida.

1698
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: OR or Somebody Like. That i like terrelle smith He's.

1699
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: Another kid out of georgia they went And Got down

1700
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: out of. SOUTH gwinnette BIG time cornerback i think i.

1701
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: Think He's An underrated player REMEMBER, benny sap in the

1702
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: Nfl played for Like. The vikings and the, dolphins they

1703
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: got his son who happens to be. A lot taller

1704
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: THAN him he's a corner i like a Lot of.

1705
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: KID out of minnesota TOO O, Lineman from the img

1706
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: academy curtis Dun Nappen, or dunlapp and DANIEL fallele Two

1707
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: kids who i think minnesota's, a Good fit for them

1708
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: right they need to work on. Their Bodies a, little

1709
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: bit in falle's case he just needs to work On.

1710
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: Learning the game foot paul He's Only been in the.

1711
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: United States, for, a year, HE'S australian right huge guy i,

1712
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: Mean six eight FOUR hundred, like, we're not i mean

1713
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: Legit we're. TALKING TY hildon. BRAND size i i Was

1714
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: I was at the orange bowl a Couple Of Years

1715
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: ago when the BIG show was there and i was in.

1716
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: The press elevator with? Him how was that scary balle

1717
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: is Literally The like. Like the big show size that's

1718
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: like there's very few. Humans in life you'll see it's

1719
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: like whoa and and those those two are probably LIKE

1720
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: the two utter like i guess shack like like two

1721
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: of the largest humans. You'll ever see, in person he's

1722
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: that big but he. Needs to. Learn THE game Mm

1723
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: hmm and I Think maryland whereas like jonathan, ogden coming

1724
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: into college football. He, was a football player yeah he

1725
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: was ready, to, Dominate At that size right so minnesota

1726
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: had a really. A heck Of a class i think

1727
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: nebraska Had A. Nice close under scott fast wisconsin kind

1728
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: of does what they do. To get guys that fit

1729
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: although we talked earlier On A periscope on my twitter

1730
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: spn Recruiting that We did with dan in wisconsin for

1731
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: next year. LOOKING really strong right, now i like their,

1732
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: Quarterback they have a lot they've got a number of

1733
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: kids committed who are just Quite frankly better players in

1734
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: wisconsin normally gets so that they might finally be turning

1735
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: these wins gradually into. A slightly better caliber recruits. They're,

1736
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: getting guys drafted highly yeah you Know we're talking, about

1737
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: the watt brothers, absolutely and even around Elsewhere Even. Outside of,

1738
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: the big ten You know, You, like the toledo class

1739
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: like there are, a group of five Classes not Necessarily

1740
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: just in texas and florida that have done a really

1741
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: good job this year. And the early signing period this Is,

1742
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 1: Who It's Made For. TOLEDO southern miss. COASTAL carolina I

1743
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: Like setting. I, like south carolina's class okay, not a group, of,

1744
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: five let's be clear sure RIGHT but within within the

1745
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 1: sec they. Might as well be h i'm. Probably, go some,

1746
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: Hate mill, wow that's okay. Now listen it's ABOUT honesty

1747
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: You know Those I mean, toledo GOT gus bradley's kid

1748
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: who i think is going to, fit that offense really

1749
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: well and he not gotten. HURT in his senior year

1750
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: i feel like He would be. A. Surefire POWER five

1751
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: kid wow so i. Like that signing, a lot there's,

1752
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 1: ANOTHER kid by the way i want to point out

1753
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 1: early signing period kid, Who if he had waited and

1754
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 1: this might be like a sort of a cautionary. Tale

1755
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: For kids in futures and i'm not saying don't sign, at,

1756
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: these mid level schools right but There Is no doubt

1757
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: That devon matthews out of jacksonville would have had like

1758
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: a ton better options or not. To, say better bigger

1759
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: options yeah and He waited. For the traditional sunday instead, You. Know,

1760
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: where he went indiana okay this Kid's. Gonna Kill It

1761
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: for indiana and tom Allen. Has, the connection to florida

1762
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: yeah HE'S Probably the most. Talented. dB indiana's ever signed

1763
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: wow and they Also Signed a guy that florida state

1764
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: was on, for, A Long. Time, too right James. Miller

1765
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: yes he, liked indiana he he. Well not a long

1766
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 1: time apparently that that might, Have, Been An issue there

1767
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: okay florida state didn't Offer, him until real late okay

1768
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: and then it looked like maybe he was under some

1769
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: pressure to sign with schools who. Were, on him for

1770
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: longer okay, He, was sort of like hey are you

1771
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: really going to, play here, as opposed.

1772
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: To you know.

1773
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: School THAT really wants you and i think that's a

1774
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: cool thing with the early signing period. Some of these,

1775
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 1: KIDS do this is. Like i think it's important i'm

1776
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: not trying to advocate these kids. Just pick the biggest

1777
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: schools sometimes they do like they just pick the most

1778
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 1: popular name and can. GET lost in the shuffle I Remember,

1779
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: Sitting next to sean white auburn quarterback on the plane

1780
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: right on the, way back from the opening, and he,

1781
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: was telling me you know he Was probably gonna go

1782
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: to auburn and he. Was LISTENING to the schools and

1783
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,839
Speaker 1: i never want to get, involved IN the. Kids recruitment

1784
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: so i. Didn't you don't, Say anything, in, my head

1785
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: i'm thinking man you were. Just, Picking the biggest name

1786
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: yeah like that is not a good. Fit for your

1787
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: skill set they run the heck out of the quarterback

1788
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: when they Got, a kid when heel yeah and you

1789
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: have a lot of options that, are less like you

1790
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: know famous names of schools that. Probably. Fix your skill

1791
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: set better so maybe the early signing paper will help

1792
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: some of these kids because if you're signed early, with

1793
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: us with the place that school probably really wants you because. They're,

1794
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: committed to, You early Right You, Know minnesota or shot

1795
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: babey mike or might go in.

1796
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 3: There and.

1797
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: Start day one that's incredible good for him and he

1798
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: will have that exposure that he, right not necessarily have

1799
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: had and, he will have, you know action in games

1800
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: And will have time to john had. A good career

1801
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: about it i'm. Not trying to, bash, him i'm just

1802
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: now yeah that's just an example. As possed, In, my

1803
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: head i'm like wow that's like the kid. Just, Picking,

1804
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: the biggest name yep well why don't?

1805
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 4: We close, out with This Then again talking with bud

1806
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 4: elliott here about a whole swath of the nation As

1807
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 4: It Relates to this national signing day. Part duh in,

1808
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen but you know we've talked so much about

1809
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 4: now the early signing period and the traditional late. Signing

1810
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 4: period through one cycle if, you could sum it up how,

1811
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 4: Have coaches adjusted their, strategies who has it? Helped who

1812
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 4: has it.

1813
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: Hurt it certainly helped the mid level schools it's really

1814
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: hurting the. Schools. THAT make coaching changes, yeah i mean

1815
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: the look The two biggest Threats to georgia in the.

1816
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: East both make coaching changes georgia put probably two. Years

1817
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: of distance between them everybody else needs, this year with

1818
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 1: This class Relative to. WHAT florida, and tennessee signed i

1819
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: mean it's going to Take two Full classes of florida

1820
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: and tennessee working their. Butts, off to, Catch up yeah

1821
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: and meanwhile george is. In a talent RICH state it, does, not,

1822
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean Obviously well yeah i mean jordan starts starting

1823
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: to TREAT their State. Like like, usc treats california that's

1824
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: incredible kind of like like the. Writer first refusal type

1825
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: thing is there a story now when you look back

1826
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: at this signing class? That stands out to you is there,

1827
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: anybody's recruitment, where you say you know It's Not. Like

1828
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: crazy like terrell Pryor We had the big jacob copeland

1829
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: today with his mom initially walking off set because it

1830
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: looked like she didn't Want. Him to go to florida,

1831
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: but then they they reconciled so it seemed like it.

1832
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Ended in a happy way but in terms of is

1833
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: there a, Story that you say this this recruitment Was

1834
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: the most interesting and i'm excited to see. How Things

1835
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 1: go for, HIM the patzertan thing. Was i mean really

1836
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: interesting and, for Those who don't Know. Obviously cirtancy is From, Louisiana.

1837
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: HE played, it, SUTURN miss i think okay lsu was

1838
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: the leader. For, him like forever years yeah and for

1839
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: saving to go AND, get him away from Lsu and.

1840
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: FOR how well jimbo closed i think THERE'S A dynamic

1841
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 1: in the sec west now where the PRESSURE it's just totally,

1842
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: On lsu for twenty nineteen like they have got, to

1843
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: do a good job because. Otherwise what are you doing

1844
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: the reasoning behind hiring that. Coaching staff was what recruiting,

1845
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: We Got. A baller recruiter edward ron we're gonna surround.

1846
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Him with Some Awesome coordinators it's the dabo SWINNING. Model

1847
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: come to the sec except. THE recruiting is not there

1848
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: i mean they're, not doing a Bad job but they're

1849
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: not they're Not making up ground, IN alabama RIGHT and

1850
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: NOW a and M with I Guarantee you Jimbo And, tim,

1851
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: brusher and damian craignose. Guys they're not messing around if

1852
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: you give a guy seventy five million dollars, guaranteed as

1853
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: a head coach they're going to Sign, some kids out

1854
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: of houston which IS a major. Stronghold for lsu as

1855
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: well so that's sort of, a thing when that, happened and,

1856
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: it was like oh man THAT the pressure's on at,

1857
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: lsu and quickly that's incredible and the pressure is on

1858
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: for twenty nineteen and. We're barely, into twenty eighteen, That's recruiting.

1859
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: Ty Feel, good feel good but elliott thank you. Very

1860
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: MUCH for your time and i think it's everything sort of.

1861
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Wrapping down now for. You it's onto twenty nineteen you've

1862
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of sixteen Year olds, to follow on

1863
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: twitter now, so good luck, with everything and once AGAIN

1864
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: Be sure To follow espn recruiting on twitter and of

1865
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: course On, espanation dot com and, facebook and it's you

1866
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: know the recruiting. World if you're into it espianation does

1867
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: the best job of contextualizing. Everything IN a human way

1868
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: and i can say that with honesty because going into message,

1869
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: boards is not. My thing, but it is you know

1870
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you have. To pay attention to it if, you're a, College.

1871
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: Football fan, thank you. Bud all, Right, thanks man all?

1872
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 4: Right daniel that.

1873
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Does IT oh a marathon but, I, FEEL good about

1874
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: IT ty i feel. Like i trained for this. My

1875
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: joints field not bad i'm. Very happy with, my RESULT

1876
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: true story here if i could.

1877
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 4: Be, honest on this. Program okay let's huddle up it's

1878
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 4: cold in the house today because we've had a bit

1879
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 4: of Inclement winter weather in eastern pennsylvania, and the house

1880
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,799
Speaker 4: is cold so we cranked up the heater to, seventy

1881
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 4: four or seventy five which is. So damn, COLD in,

1882
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 4: here and uh i thought at least at one point

1883
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 4: of taking the shirt Off, during the interview?

1884
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: WITH bud is that true.

1885
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 4: I thought about doing it i was, very close TO

1886
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 4: doing it and, then i thought to myself IF anyone finds,

1887
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 4: out that i did this. It's REALLY gonna. Be WEIRD

1888
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 4: so i, didn't, but i thought.

1889
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: ABOUT yeah, that's Too bad i mean your apple watch

1890
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 1: probably has a video. Camera in, there, recording something. Probably

1891
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: yeah yeah probably. Not i've done that before WE'VE talked

1892
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: about it when i was in a particularly Hot Room at.

1893
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: The old fox media office but we have done a

1894
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: show together where. With, no show It's right, uh Have We, jacuzzie,

1895
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:03,879
Speaker 1: oh the. Jacuzzi.

1896
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 4: Show right that's right.

1897
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah but other than that now this is this is

1898
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: as good. A time as any time we're going, through

1899
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: a lot of, facts a lot of figures a lot

1900
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: of recruiting names that are turning. Into COLLEGE football player

1901
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: name so i can understand even if it isn't overly

1902
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: warm in whatever, room you're recording this in. You're just.

1903
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Overheating with.

1904
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 4: KNOWLEDGE that's right that's right i would.

1905
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: Have definitely FORGIVEN shedding clothing so if i, WOULD have

1906
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: actually done it. I WOULDN'T have told. YOU but i

1907
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 1: came close. I walked to that line.

1908
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 4: I didn't step over it so.

1909
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: We have you mentioned just some somehouse cleaning. Real quick

1910
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,839
Speaker 1: before we go we have how college football works recruiting

1911
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: this coming week. We're, shooting for that's correct yeah and

1912
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: that is, various angles. Media and parents cut whatever i'll,

1913
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: just how recruiting in general because it is sort. Of

1914
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: a multi tentacled monster just, there are so, many angles

1915
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: and you know there's so. Much happening behind the scene

1916
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: so we're trying to get at least a tip of.

1917
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: The iceberg look, at recruiting we have well we're going to,

1918
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: start recapping and looking forward. Because it's Never Too early

1919
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: our friend bill connolly has already started twenty eighteen. PREVIEWS

1920
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: on spnation Dot Com i just. Saw texas STATE go

1921
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: up we have i, think a scheme theme. Month. Sooner

1922
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: rather than.

1923
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 4: Later March are? WE looking at march there i would Like.

1924
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 3: To.

1925
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: SAY we're doing march tie i just. Think we have

1926
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 1: to edit Just in watching The Super bowl and hearing

1927
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: chris collinsworth sometimes, accurately sometimes not, SO accurately talk about

1928
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: RPOs i think the time is right accounts and really

1929
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: nerd out about, offensive and defensive and hell. Maybe, even

1930
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: special teams schemes.

1931
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 4: Yeah that would be good we haven't done a special,

1932
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 4: teams one.

1933
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: No be special so. We've got that coming up. We've,

1934
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: got a new. Logo yeah check it out you probably

1935
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: you might be. LOOKING at it right now i, don't

1936
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: KNOW on your phone.

1937
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 4: BUT i that. THAT'S good i like it i.

1938
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 2: THINK you do.

1939
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: Great work i thank you that. Means A lot to

1940
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: me ty and WE we HAVE. Our ongoing sv two

1941
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: k we want two thousand and five star reviews On

1942
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: iTunes or?

1943
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 3: What?

1944
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: An apple podcast is, that what it. Is yep, let's,

1945
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: get it come on people, if you. Haven't done. It

1946
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: get there it. Helps it takes two seconds and, if

1947
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: you do Do it, tweet us or. Facebook US let us,

1948
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: know and i promise you this is. My hand to

1949
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: the sky we will.

1950
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 2: Be very.

1951
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 3: And.

1952
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Publicly appreciative appreciate it appreciative. That, sounds right to me

1953
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: yeah because. It's been a, Long, day time all right

1954
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: well it.

1955
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 4: Has been A long day you and. I, need to

1956
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 4: go eat yeah and hopefully everyone out there could donate

1957
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 4: a chunk of their day to getting caught. Up on

1958
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 4: all things recruiting Big Thanks as Always to brandon hoffman

1959
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 4: but elliott a busy day For Both Those. Guys on

1960
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 4: national signing day to give us so much of their

1961
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 4: time is really generous and we. Do appreciate it for,

1962
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 4: sure as you can tell they are wealths of knowledge

1963
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 4: when it comes to all things recruiting. And HOW this process,

1964
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 4: works as i said before you will hear more from

1965
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 4: them next week In Our much. Awaited how recruiting work

1966
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 4: show we've been working on this, one For over a

1967
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 4: year so i'm excited to get, it out of the

1968
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 4: lab take, the bubble wrap off it and, release it

1969
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 4: into the wild maybe a, little bit later next week okay.

1970
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 4: To get that one release but the plan is to

1971
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 4: have that one out in the wild. At Some point.

1972
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 4: Next week so i'm excited. Let love, what you think

1973
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 4: as always give us an email at. Soliverble at gmail

1974
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 4: dot com look us up On, The, Social, media via

1975
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: twitter facebook. Instagram all the usual hotspots we will be

1976
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 4: there in the Meantime For my good friend Dan Rubenstein Over,

1977
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 4: there in, New York city bar myself ty Hildebrand. Here

1978
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 4: a good old allentown we'll catch. You all, in a, week,

1979
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 4: in meantime stay solid peace