Speaker 1: Peace of the plane in Charlamagne the God here and
Speaker 1: as we come closer the closing out this year, I
Speaker 1: just want to say thank you for tuning into the
Speaker 1: Black Effect podcast network. There have been so many great
Speaker 1: moments over the past year. Take a listen to some
Speaker 1: of those captivating moments in this special best of episode.
Speaker 2: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 2: Sealers Podcast. With your house now, fuck that with your
Speaker 2: load glasses, Malone.
Speaker 3: Need to wear heels or something, but I need to
Speaker 3: start wearing the do you yeah? Can I see? I
Speaker 3: can barely?
Speaker 4: Yeah? These they wilmas.
Speaker 2: Now all right, then we should be straightened out, right, Well,
Speaker 2: we already recording.
Speaker 4: So you just looked like a nigga tripping.
Speaker 5: You should have told me that. You should have said
Speaker 5: we was cool.
Speaker 4: Stop pulling that cap down. Ain't a little crooked. I'm glad.
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody gonna see this.
Speaker 6: Video, man, That's why I'm you know, ain't nobody.
Speaker 4: You had but that nigga.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you y'all what happened is still
Speaker 2: Still went to a club the other day and he
Speaker 2: head butted a man and knocked him out.
Speaker 4: And now he got this little strawberry on his head. Man,
Speaker 4: where are you by somebody?
Speaker 5: I didn't hear nothing, nobody. I had an incident with
Speaker 5: my puppy. He was trying to come in the house.
Speaker 5: I put him outside and I was trying to come
Speaker 5: back in and he ran in between my legs and
Speaker 5: I fell and I was trying to grab the door
Speaker 5: knob and I cracked my head.
Speaker 6: In the side of the house.
Speaker 4: Now imagine that. Imagine the look. Can you hear what
Speaker 4: he says?
Speaker 3: A little puppy went through your legs. He was trying
Speaker 3: to catch him and he fell and busted and he
Speaker 3: went through his legs.
Speaker 5: No, I wasn't trying to catch I was trying to
Speaker 5: leave him outside because I put him outside because I
Speaker 5: was coming in the house to do a podcast, and
Speaker 5: I was left put him outside, and I was trying
Speaker 5: to beat him back through the door, but he was
Speaker 5: so quick. He ran through the door at the same
Speaker 5: time as me, and I kind of tripped over him
Speaker 5: and I fell and cracked my head.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: You know, I understand freak accidents stuff, So what stories.
Speaker 4: Sound better to know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Where he head butted the man at the bar him
Speaker 2: sucking with a little lass five.
Speaker 4: I'm six street still six five or some ship man.
Speaker 6: He quick though he went through my legs. Man, he
Speaker 6: wasn't trying to get left up. Huh. Oh, she she is.
Speaker 6: My wife just corrected me. She's a girl.
Speaker 4: Oh little bitch.
Speaker 6: My dog alone, I'm calling my dog a bitch.
Speaker 4: Your dog is a bitch.
Speaker 2: That the real life of a bitch. It's so cool
Speaker 2: to be able to say that. I don't have to
Speaker 2: pull back nothing. Your female dog is playing with that
Speaker 2: little bitch. Yep, that's crazy. I feel so empowered.
Speaker 6: He's so horrible.
Speaker 4: How is that horrible? That's probably truth?
Speaker 5: Though, Hey, I wonder you know what I wanted to
Speaker 5: ask you something now. I know you don't like talking
Speaker 5: about politics. Oh we're not gonna talk about politics, I promise,
Speaker 5: But do y'all consider Kamala Harris Black?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: So wait, what did you say her name was?
Speaker 6: Isn't isn't it Kamala Harris?
Speaker 3: I was saying Kamala, but I finally got it right,
Speaker 3: finally learn that it is Kamala. I think you I
Speaker 3: thought it was Kamala, but it's Kamala.
Speaker 4: Kamala.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I would say she is.
Speaker 5: She had a drop of black blood. I think as
Speaker 5: long as you have a drop of black blood and
Speaker 5: you black, I don't know what the big deal about
Speaker 5: that is, but I see people making that voting points.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, there's three reasons people are gonna vote for
Speaker 2: Kamala as y'all pronounce it Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: There's three reasons. One, people hate Donald Trump, they will
Speaker 4: vote for her to spite. Two people think she's black. Three,
Speaker 4: she's a woman.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be the smartest one because most people don't
Speaker 2: want a woman to be in front of the charge
Speaker 2: of the free world, but there are women that want
Speaker 2: empower women to put them in that position. There is
Speaker 2: nothing else to talk about. You don't know nothing about
Speaker 2: her policies. What policies would you vote for? What policies
Speaker 2: she listen? If the Democratic Party is smart and this
Speaker 2: is just me being having a PhD in marketing, I
Speaker 2: have marketing down to a science. They will lean on
Speaker 2: those three things every time this motherfucker get in front
Speaker 2: of people. She should talk shit about Trump, So I
Speaker 2: will make people vote for her every fucking time. All
Speaker 2: that orange bastard she's not doing. DA ain't Chapelle need
Speaker 2: to be right and joke for her. She needs to
Speaker 2: hire a.
Speaker 8: Woman that don't know how to hold a sentence.
Speaker 4: That's why she needs to make your.
Speaker 3: Oh, make it funny, because.
Speaker 2: Her is because she's not Donald Trump, because she's not policies.
Speaker 2: Nobody even know her policies. She got into business for
Speaker 2: you to know her policies. And if you listen to
Speaker 2: her as a politician, everything about her is politician one
Speaker 2: O one. Like if you ask her a question, she
Speaker 2: repeats the question back with nuance and shit, but never
Speaker 2: answers the question. Like that's like politician one all of them. Still,
Speaker 2: it's not all of them. Some of them are men.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump was in front of the Association of Black
Speaker 5: Journalists yesterday and they asked him about the signing Masie deal.
Speaker 5: He said, okay, under your plan, would that officer be
Speaker 5: granted clemency? He said, oh, are you talking about the
Speaker 5: thing with the water. He didn't even know what was
Speaker 5: going on, or that was his way of being.
Speaker 4: Smart, but he never never.
Speaker 8: He plays them very well.
Speaker 4: Trump is not.
Speaker 8: He knew exactly what he was talking about. He just
Speaker 8: didn't have a damn answer. Because they said before that
Speaker 8: he wasn't able to go through the talking points, and
Speaker 8: they were upset about that because he wanted to be
Speaker 8: briefed on it before he went in front of them,
Speaker 8: and they wasn't doing that. They're like, no, you're gonna
Speaker 8: sit here and do whatever. He wasn't feeling none of that.
Speaker 8: He told him that they were that they.
Speaker 4: Didn't get at him.
Speaker 2: They did get at any foul they did. They just
Speaker 2: kind of just start grilling anything like him. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: that's the point, so then you gotta take it when
Speaker 2: you dish it. You gotta I'm not a Donald Trump fan.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't vote for their politician. I'm not voting for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump because he's not giving reparations. And I'm not
Speaker 2: voting for Come on common Luck because she's not getting reparations.
Speaker 4: I'm not voting for nobody that don't have black issues.
Speaker 2: I definitely wouldn't vote for somebody because they appear black
Speaker 2: to me. He definitely put it into a place where
Speaker 2: he couldn't lose. Okay, if marketing First off, No Seilings.
Speaker 2: This is the No Seilings podcast.
Speaker 6: G L.
Speaker 2: Pete is in California for this podcast. I couldn't get
Speaker 2: the cameras up and running, so we didn't tape. But
Speaker 2: the conversation is everything in podcasting.
Speaker 7: But as long as we say that I'm in California,
Speaker 7: that allows us to say I'm in California routinely with
Speaker 7: no cameras and no one will no, I'll be to
Speaker 7: Rick Ross of geography.
Speaker 2: Oh man anyway, So I'm saying, right, he's still just
Speaker 2: covering kind of the experience, and I agree. So you
Speaker 2: feel like in other artists you get more of them.
Speaker 4: Like like, yeah, and who's to say, like I got listen.
Speaker 2: I in my mind, I've never been critical of Ross, right,
Speaker 2: but I have said things that were a bit honest,
Speaker 2: you know, when somebody's asking me about my journey.
Speaker 4: Like I talked to Charlotte Mane on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: Y'all go check that out.
Speaker 2: It was an interview from twenty and nineteen, really dope conversation.
Speaker 4: Was talking about two Pac months die.
Speaker 2: And I told him that I felt forced to be
Speaker 2: more honest in transparent with the experiences of Los Angeles
Speaker 2: street urban culture because of artists like Rick Ross right
Speaker 2: where he was like he put it on so thick,
Speaker 2: so the average everyday person could see the image right,
Speaker 2: because I actually sold dope right in high school. I
Speaker 2: so dope, like I actually touched birds, like I've actually,
Speaker 2: you know, had a key load too, I've actually had
Speaker 2: gallons of PCP.
Speaker 4: Like these are not things as far.
Speaker 2: But again, if you tell people that it's hard for
Speaker 2: the average person who's not around and remember hip hop
Speaker 2: is this very you know, ghetto or street urban culture
Speaker 2: is a very small place a spec in America. It's
Speaker 2: not like it's a lot of ghettos in America. That's
Speaker 2: the confusion as people believe there's a lot of ghettos
Speaker 2: in America and they're not.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's only a handful.
Speaker 2: And that's what it makes somebody like you, you know,
Speaker 2: when you come to watch and you come to where
Speaker 2: we're from, is you could tell like this shit is
Speaker 2: really it's a regular community.
Speaker 4: But this is real. So when when I look at
Speaker 4: somebody like like Rose right and and and.
Speaker 2: He's trying to paint the image of Miami drug dealer,
Speaker 2: but and this is the brilliance of what he does
Speaker 2: as a marketing person, go ahead, I'm sorry, No, I
Speaker 2: was just gonna say I.
Speaker 4: Think that really.
Speaker 7: Maybe we're missing all of what Rick's whole thing is,
Speaker 7: if I would step back and look at the totality
Speaker 7: of his career, he's selling opulent consumption.
Speaker 4: Go further, opulent consumption.
Speaker 7: His He's really really selling a lust for money and
Speaker 7: expensive ship. In the first album, there was a lot
Speaker 7: of It was a lot of how'd I get how
Speaker 7: would you have the money, how would you know a
Speaker 7: person with this kind of money spend it?
Speaker 6: Or whatnot?
Speaker 7: It's really a lot about maybox music. He didn't he
Speaker 7: didn't call it fish scale music. Go to Maybock, sure,
Speaker 7: and it was about cars and speeding in the boats.
Speaker 4: And the perception of wealth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And he kind.
Speaker 9: Of graduated, or at least gradually drifted away from talking
Speaker 9: about I did all this drug dealing to spend all
Speaker 9: this money, to just I'm just buying all.
Speaker 4: This shit off time.
Speaker 7: That's where he's just talking about all the crap is buying.
Speaker 2: And I agree, But even to the motherfucking marketing mind
Speaker 2: of what he's doing, you know, I'm lending this thought
Speaker 2: to the marketing mind. He understood something that I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: He understood most people have no idea about dope dealing.
Speaker 2: Because I agree, Ross's goal was to sell wealth. He
Speaker 2: always painted it from the beginning to the end. Now
Speaker 2: to the place where he don't even have to talk
Speaker 2: about selling dope. He can just talk about wealth.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 2: But he was saying, hey, this person, the reason I
Speaker 2: have wealth is because of this life down the street
Speaker 2: urban culture that Miami made famous. And he knew most
Speaker 2: people didn't have any ideas of what it is. So
Speaker 2: he painted the people. He connected most people who never
Speaker 2: had any experience and said culture. He gave them points
Speaker 2: to where they can get into what he was saying.
Speaker 2: Because he did say he knew nord Riega. Because if
Speaker 2: he says he knew Rayful, you know, if he knew
Speaker 2: Rayful Edmunds, they wouldn't know who that is.
Speaker 4: If he said he knew.
Speaker 2: Was the first King Zoe or whatever that waterhead bowl,
Speaker 2: Waterhead bow out here, or if you knew little Daryl
Speaker 2: in the Bay, people wouldn't know who that is.
Speaker 4: He knew that they would know who.
Speaker 2: Norie is because most Americans have heard that person's name
Speaker 2: because the government pursued him.
Speaker 4: He also dressed.
Speaker 2: Like the movie idea of drug dealing, like the the
Speaker 2: Colombian guys in the film Scarface, where Lenen, and that's.
Speaker 9: Not how he used the Scarface track beat.
Speaker 4: Just like jez Jesu. If you listen to TM one
Speaker 4: on one.
Speaker 2: I was saying it the other day, like it's probably
Speaker 2: one of the top five greatest albums out of the South.
Speaker 2: But I never realized how fucking corny it was until
Speaker 2: recently because I heard all of the Scarface in the
Speaker 2: window and I didn't pay because I never saw that movie.
Speaker 2: But you know, when I kind of i've over that
Speaker 2: time since it first came out to now I've seen
Speaker 2: little parts on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Obviously YouTube is.
Speaker 2: The thing Instagram, so you see clips and now you're
Speaker 2: starting to kind of be.
Speaker 4: A little bit more familiar.
Speaker 2: Even though nothing has demanded for me to watch the film,
Speaker 2: right It's like, nothing really about it seems interesting to
Speaker 2: me still right now, but listening to those parts and
Speaker 2: now when I listen to TIM one on one, you know,
Speaker 2: Gez and them sonically did the same.
Speaker 4: Thing Ross did you know, and Ross just painted.
Speaker 2: It, you know, in a way to where more people
Speaker 2: could be like, oh, I see what he's about. Like
Speaker 2: the story was a lot more consumable for mainstream America,
Speaker 2: even if not for us, because I don't think I
Speaker 2: ever cared if he actually so dope at I don't
Speaker 2: think I ever even started off thinking like he's so dope. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I don't think that was my thought when I first
Speaker 2: heard hustling. Hustling always felt like I don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck if you got a carpet cleaning business, you hustling.
Speaker 2: You know, That's the feel it always gave me. So
Speaker 2: I think he had that part right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Because like as somebody like Iced Tea always
Speaker 2: tell me, like whenever we talk, he like, man, you
Speaker 2: are so rich in culture, how you talk. Most people
Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you
Speaker 2: talk like everybody from where we're from. And it hit
Speaker 2: me like the average person don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: Click click pool, y'all kick the frame in Nigga, Let
Speaker 5: the games begin. As I stand there, talk the talk
Speaker 5: cand on the campus of the Land of the scam
Speaker 5: Lists taking penitentiary chances. Sick wooded Off, the rick wooded
Speaker 5: blue Beanie, knitted, freshly acquidted, grind Grimeley, the big Body,
Speaker 5: and the big Body with lyrics and drulics, hotter than
Speaker 5: a hobby selling, Globo, bailing career, felling, Escalate three Brave Beer,
Speaker 5: where fucking a thug for free and thug eat Niggas
Speaker 5: call me your whole kid because I love the cheese, Janins, hustlers, pimps.
Speaker 5: If you follow me, let me see you put your
Speaker 5: hands up like a robbery. I solemnly swear to stay
Speaker 5: down and slain the seat.
Speaker 4: I spit in the name of the streets. I'm gone.
Speaker 3: A row.
Speaker 6: Of sea is hard.
Speaker 4: Niggas are real live city.
Speaker 2: What's funny is when niggas be talking about Dub and
Speaker 2: they really got on him because of when he became
Speaker 2: a better songwriter, right, and it really the chance that
Speaker 2: the chance style, you know what I mean, that made
Speaker 2: him like such a better songwriter. But most people only
Speaker 2: discovered him, you know, because his songwriting got better, right,
Speaker 2: the records got better, So now you're hearing it the
Speaker 2: more right and it worked out for and well. But
Speaker 2: it's funny that people don't realize how dope of an
Speaker 2: MC he is.
Speaker 4: Just flat out.
Speaker 5: Oh Dubb is a lyricist. I think people get caught
Speaker 5: too cut up with the bing bang bang and all
Speaker 5: that stuff, you know.
Speaker 2: Which is necessary, which is necessary if you want to
Speaker 2: be a great songwriter, Like when he did the Top Head.
Speaker 5: My favorite one from him is that's right, y'all. Go ahead,
Speaker 5: dub go ahead, rock that ship the top shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah on my trade walk Jaggie as fuck with the
Speaker 2: slow fuck Temple.
Speaker 4: I drove a prom to that song.
Speaker 6: That song was hard.
Speaker 2: You are the ones, you are the ones you you Yeah,
Speaker 2: dub So thinking about early dub C, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like low profile, hearing some of his stuff
Speaker 2: when I was younger, then hearing it as an adult
Speaker 2: mass circle, you know what I'm saying, Like he was
Speaker 2: already an EMC. You could tell he was like vested
Speaker 2: in hip hop a lot different than more West Coast artists.
Speaker 2: But you know, even as he developed into a better
Speaker 2: record rider where he would have those jingles and chants,
Speaker 2: that is amazing. And it's funny that again people define
Speaker 2: him as an MC that way. They're like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is the type MC is, Like na Dug really wrapped
Speaker 2: for me. But he also became such a better record
Speaker 2: It's like hearing the later ice Cube without hearing the
Speaker 2: early ice Q. Like if you never heard kill that
Speaker 2: will you know Death Certificate Hid America's most you know,
Speaker 2: straight out of Compton, any of that stuff, and you
Speaker 2: only heard you know, uh, and you only heard like
Speaker 2: dubs like ice Cube off West Side Connection, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, where he's a got lyrics to Wake
Speaker 2: of Spirits. They showed me how to spin big heads.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they showed me how to wake digits and
Speaker 2: spin digits.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like if you hear him later on where he's yeay yay,
Speaker 2: I pushed R Like if you only heard that ice Cube,
Speaker 2: you kind of missed what made ice Q fantastic as
Speaker 2: an MC before the record.
Speaker 5: Writer listening to pay Dues dub C and listening to
Speaker 5: later dub C has two different experiences because pay Due's
Speaker 5: dub C was hard to see h too. But when
Speaker 5: he started just thinking about Halleen Genistad, he was to
Speaker 5: put top Cat in your rep that you do stage
Speaker 5: right for the Radical Evening. We got the mass circle
Speaker 5: in the house this evening. Get down, then you're done
Speaker 5: quite rock rocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard, harding, but to me, like the mastery
Speaker 2: part of m saying dog is when you do something
Speaker 2: that becomes your own. See, like, yes, there is a
Speaker 2: traditionally dope MC where they just put words together and
Speaker 2: they have a decent flow and you know the words.
Speaker 2: But then there's a mastery as a rapper where you
Speaker 2: start to do things that only become you doing that.
Speaker 2: That's where to me, dub C is at or ice Q,
Speaker 2: where they start to do things that uniquely become just
Speaker 2: their own.
Speaker 5: That's well, you know what the thing is, man, And
Speaker 5: I know we feel in this conversation we was gonna
Speaker 5: talk about some whole other stuff. The thing about Duve
Speaker 5: what people don't understand is that Dub is a master
Speaker 5: human beat boxer. Dub is a master free style of
Speaker 5: Dub is a real.
Speaker 4: MC, your master.
Speaker 2: And it's funny you saying that, you know, whereever fuck
Speaker 2: with the conversation was supposed to go.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think there's a difference between a rapper and a MC.
Speaker 2: Like a MC is judged by really how they write
Speaker 2: for the most part, and you wouldn't think they are,
Speaker 2: but they're really judged by how they're right, how they
Speaker 2: write you know, double entendres, similes, you know, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: or master rapper is judged by how dope their professional
Speaker 2: rap songs are. So a lot of the times when
Speaker 2: we call somebody just rapping on a corner rapping, Yes, rapping,
Speaker 2: but that's really MCing their control in the space too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but a rapper is really judged by how, you know,
Speaker 2: they actually make a rap record work. And it's funny
Speaker 2: because I think as a as an MC, I'm on
Speaker 2: a like a final level of getting to where that
Speaker 2: is to where uniquely what I do is only minds.
Speaker 2: I haven't got there yet where Dub is at so
Speaker 2: or where Cube is at or where jay Z is at,
Speaker 2: it's still a step.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like it's like when you find that glow,
Speaker 4: like with a Bruce Lee Roy.
Speaker 5: It's like glow. They got the glow for sure. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you one of my most memorable experiences, me
Speaker 5: and high C probably performed a choir Canyon Is probably
Speaker 5: a hundred times easily. And I remember it was high C,
Speaker 5: dub C and MC breed resident pre SMC Breed And
Speaker 5: for dub just to have the awareness that we was
Speaker 5: in the house full of Mexican people and he said, well,
Speaker 5: just this list shit like we're all my latinos at
Speaker 5: and how they went crazy and how he just started
Speaker 5: getting his walk on and he just did all that
Speaker 5: fly gangs and stuff that night. Even for Breed to
Speaker 5: come out there and have the awareness to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do all these songs. He just started
Speaker 5: off with to the beat, y'all, That's dope and one
Speaker 5: and gonna kill a vibe and he just had a
Speaker 5: rocking dog. He did that song three times in the row.
Speaker 2: That night, and people want to hear it, especially that song.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I know I'm a master MC. I mean
Speaker 2: I'm at a place to where I write uniquely in
Speaker 2: my own style, my own flow, my own pace, a
Speaker 2: master rapper where I master a rap style to where
Speaker 2: when you hear it every time you can separate him
Speaker 2: be like, oh that's just glasses no. And to me
Speaker 2: it's like I probably can MC as great as you
Speaker 2: can MC. Like I could probably be on a song
Speaker 2: with rock Kim or a song with card Face and
Speaker 2: have a memorable verse, But can I make I seen
Speaker 2: a man and die? Is true mastery as a rapper,
Speaker 2: not as MC as a rapper. You know, to have
Speaker 2: a sixteen that I can compete with, I can compete
Speaker 2: with Lil Wayne When at a time I knew I couldn't.
Speaker 2: Like now, I can compete with Lil Wayne when we're
Speaker 2: rapping on the same song, But can I make a
Speaker 2: MILLI Can I make a rap song that becomes infinitely
Speaker 2: mind to where you hear it. You could automatically say
Speaker 2: that's a glasses rap song, And to me, it's the
Speaker 2: difference between m singing and rapping. I ain't no big
Speaker 2: political guy, bro, you know I ain't really you know
Speaker 2: what I guess. In the streets, I'm more aware of policies.
Speaker 2: I'm more of my world of politics, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, where the street policies are dominant. But as
Speaker 2: far as American policies, you know what I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: really I get it. I get it makes sense to
Speaker 2: me to some degree. Like it's really hard for me
Speaker 2: because even like something like abortion, you know, I get
Speaker 2: kind of both sides of it. Now, I'm probably like
Speaker 2: more to the ladder of like you probably shouldn't get abortions,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But then I do understand
Speaker 2: those particular instances where somebody got raped and maybe somebody
Speaker 2: may die if they deliver a child, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And you know I don't necessarily agree with the woman's body,
Speaker 2: because I just think that's such a disingenuous you know, debate.
Speaker 2: Like just when I think about policies, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, My problem is to me, they seem too simple.
Speaker 4: Like which ones well, just how they should be.
Speaker 2: America should be a country that depends on itself. Sure,
Speaker 2: now I don't know how that lines up right. So
Speaker 2: I don't like the fact we outsource so many things,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and even compared to like
Speaker 2: my hip hop career. Like I feel like one thing
Speaker 2: my hip hop career did take punishment in it was
Speaker 2: too many things outsourced. When I first came into this business,
Speaker 2: like I believed in bringing everything in house.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: My older brother, some of my team, they didn't really
Speaker 2: understand that. They were so used to just you know
Speaker 2: how they saw you know, rap and hip hop going
Speaker 2: because they were more vested in it than I was.
Speaker 2: But I remember walking in thinking to myself, like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to I'm not going to uh, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to sell tickets to perform for somebody else.
Speaker 4: I'm going to book the venue myself.
Speaker 2: I'm going to press up my CDs and and and
Speaker 2: push them throughout the West Coast myself, like even how
Speaker 2: I wanted my own record deal when Freeway Rick and
Speaker 2: Hamie Mani from John Street both who homes shout out
Speaker 2: to them brothers, but they was gonna give me seven
Speaker 2: hundred to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in two
Speaker 2: thousand and five to launch Blue Division then, and that
Speaker 2: was my goal. I really listened to Pool, my older brother.
Speaker 2: He wanted to do the deal with Sony, like they
Speaker 2: wanted to do a record deal with cash money in
Speaker 2: different people, so you know.
Speaker 4: They were more vested in hip hop. So I listened
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 2: But where we at now, like it's hard for me
Speaker 2: to listen to other people who aren't as vested, but
Speaker 2: I still do listen even if I don't take the advice.
Speaker 2: I listen, But I also know the path I want
Speaker 2: to walk, and I'm still you know, tweaking things because
Speaker 2: really this path doesn't exist today. Like the last time
Speaker 2: this path existed was probably like in the sixties and seventies,
Speaker 2: before you know, corporations got involved into black music, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, when you had to do it yourself.
Speaker 2: And that's my mentality, Pete, Like I really believe, like
Speaker 2: yo to make this happen for Glasses and alone. As
Speaker 2: an artist. Glasses is a is a is a person
Speaker 2: of people. Like I've always done well when it's me
Speaker 2: and people, but whenever, you know, you get behind the curtain, like,
Speaker 2: no artist is gonna be able to be There's not
Speaker 2: an artist today that's going to do better in a
Speaker 2: room full of strangers than me, you know what I mean, There's.
Speaker 4: Not an artist today.
Speaker 2: And I could really say that, like, there's not an
Speaker 2: artist today that will do better in a room full.
Speaker 4: Of strangers than I would. True, it don't.
Speaker 2: Matter which room it could be, the paless white folks
Speaker 2: that don't even like Negroes, to the streetest most violent
Speaker 2: negroes in the history of the world, the whole spectrum,
Speaker 2: you know whatever, all colors in between. That's always worked
Speaker 2: for me, and I know that that's been my gift,
Speaker 2: that that worked for me. Well, I look at the
Speaker 2: same with policies, Whereas, like I really believe in America,
Speaker 2: bro that has that that's forced to fend for itself,
Speaker 2: that has to create its own products, that has to
Speaker 2: create its own cars, that has to create everything, because
Speaker 2: to me, it makes sense to create jobs, right, That's
Speaker 2: how you create jobs economy that pours into itself and
Speaker 2: rewards itself. So to me, that's what makes it simple.
Speaker 2: That's the whole concept of policy. Everything else is just bullshit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Every other part of it
Speaker 2: to me is just bullshit. Like that's the simple part
Speaker 2: of it. This country should be pouring into itself, I mean,
Speaker 2: and rewarding itself for porn. It should be this cycle
Speaker 2: of things happening for Americans.
Speaker 6: I agree with it.
Speaker 7: I think that like the way I would illustrate, like
Speaker 7: my opinion. You know, how policy and the job marketing
Speaker 7: US economy works is like a like the Hoover dam.
Speaker 7: Our economy needs to grow in advance. You know, it's
Speaker 7: going to grow in advance faster than the rest of
Speaker 7: the world. So you don't want to like have a
Speaker 7: big block of people stuck with these like low paying
Speaker 7: pedestrian jobs that like really don't fit here. So you
Speaker 7: kind of kind of but you have to you have
Speaker 7: to manage the flow. You can't just open and let
Speaker 7: all the water flood out like we did. You have
Speaker 7: to hold a reservoir of domestic jobs while you strategically,
Speaker 7: you know, let the water out of the bottom at
Speaker 7: the same rate that it's coming in to keep that
Speaker 7: water line stable, and we don't do a good job
Speaker 7: of that because people want to you know, dump water
Speaker 7: or buy water downstream, or however the hell you want
Speaker 7: to look at it.
Speaker 2: Outside of crude oil, do we need to depend on
Speaker 2: another country for something else?
Speaker 7: We don't need to depend on crude oil. We were
Speaker 7: net oil exporters during the Trump era. We got we
Speaker 7: have so much freaking oil.
Speaker 6: It's absurd.
Speaker 7: We have so much fossil fuel energy sources in this
Speaker 7: country on our own land rights. It is utterly absurd.
Speaker 7: That's just purely EPA policy because for whatever reason, Democrats
Speaker 7: feel better about themselves when they buy oil from other
Speaker 7: countries than when they buy it from here.
Speaker 4: That's it. That's it. So what I would like to
Speaker 4: believe now, this is my intellect kicking in. Now.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's limited information, so I can't even trust it.
Speaker 4: A's just intellect.
Speaker 2: But I genuinely believe when you start to pump too
Speaker 2: much oil, like oil and water is the is the
Speaker 2: Earth's life blood, right, and it does replin. It's just
Speaker 2: like blood replenis is in our body. We could get
Speaker 2: shot and love some blood and eventually our bodies will
Speaker 2: repent it, you know, will replenish blood. And I do
Speaker 2: think you can only pull so much, you know, so often,
Speaker 2: you know, before the earth needs to replenish blood, you know.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Yeah? So is there anything we
Speaker 4: need to depend on for another country? Like?
Speaker 2: Is there something we do not that that cannot be
Speaker 2: made in this country that we need to depend on
Speaker 2: another country for?
Speaker 7: There might be some rare earth mineral things. Everything really
Speaker 7: just comes down to cost. Truth be told, we could
Speaker 7: do everything here, but a lot of people don't want
Speaker 7: to pay eighteen hundred dollars for a television. Yeah, that's
Speaker 7: really what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if you can afford an eighteen hundred
Speaker 2: dollars television? Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: Get I get what you what you're saying? This issue
Speaker 7: is like there's a disassociation with verticals and costs and
Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: So at some point I think it comes down to, like,
Speaker 7: all right, you're going to pay all these people who
Speaker 7: make television blank dollars here and they'll have the money
Speaker 7: to buy televisions. But like, the consumption rate doesn't always
Speaker 7: outrun the production rate. So the demand doesn't always stay
Speaker 7: on track with the supply, so when that starts to happen,
Speaker 7: the company will go out of business because they're paying
Speaker 7: an awful lot of money to make each television. And
Speaker 7: then there's the demand you know doesn't keep up.
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