WEBVTT - Best of No Ceilings Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Peace of the plane in Charlamagne the God here and

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<v Speaker 1>as we come closer the closing out this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say thank you for tuning into the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Effect podcast network. There have been so many great

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<v Speaker 1>moments over the past year. Take a listen to some

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<v Speaker 1>of those captivating moments in this special best of episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 2>Sealers Podcast. With your house now, fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 2>load glasses, Malone.

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<v Speaker 3>Need to wear heels or something, but I need to

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<v Speaker 3>start wearing the do you yeah? Can I see? I

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<v Speaker 3>can barely?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? These they wilmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Now all right, then we should be straightened out, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we already recording.

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<v Speaker 4>So you just looked like a nigga tripping.

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<v Speaker 5>You should have told me that. You should have said

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<v Speaker 5>we was cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop pulling that cap down. Ain't a little crooked. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't nobody gonna see this.

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<v Speaker 6>Video, man, That's why I'm you know, ain't nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>You had but that nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me tell you y'all what happened is still

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<v Speaker 2>Still went to a club the other day and he

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<v Speaker 2>head butted a man and knocked him out.

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<v Speaker 4>And now he got this little strawberry on his head. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>where are you by somebody?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't hear nothing, nobody. I had an incident with

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<v Speaker 5>my puppy. He was trying to come in the house.

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<v Speaker 5>I put him outside and I was trying to come

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<v Speaker 5>back in and he ran in between my legs and

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<v Speaker 5>I fell and I was trying to grab the door

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<v Speaker 5>knob and I cracked my head.

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<v Speaker 6>In the side of the house.

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<v Speaker 4>Now imagine that. Imagine the look. Can you hear what

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<v Speaker 4>he says?

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<v Speaker 3>A little puppy went through your legs. He was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to catch him and he fell and busted and he

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<v Speaker 3>went through his legs.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I wasn't trying to catch I was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>leave him outside because I put him outside because I

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<v Speaker 5>was coming in the house to do a podcast, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was left put him outside, and I was trying

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<v Speaker 5>to beat him back through the door, but he was

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<v Speaker 5>so quick. He ran through the door at the same

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<v Speaker 5>time as me, and I kind of tripped over him

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<v Speaker 5>and I fell and cracked my head.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I understand freak accidents stuff, So what stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Sound better to know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Where he head butted the man at the bar him

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<v Speaker 2>sucking with a little lass five.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm six street still six five or some ship man.

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<v Speaker 6>He quick though he went through my legs. Man, he

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't trying to get left up. Huh. Oh, she she is.

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<v Speaker 6>My wife just corrected me. She's a girl.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh little bitch.

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<v Speaker 6>My dog alone, I'm calling my dog a bitch.

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<v Speaker 4>Your dog is a bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>That the real life of a bitch. It's so cool

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to say that. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>pull back nothing. Your female dog is playing with that

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<v Speaker 2>little bitch. Yep, that's crazy. I feel so empowered.

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<v Speaker 6>He's so horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>How is that horrible? That's probably truth?

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<v Speaker 5>Though, Hey, I wonder you know what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>ask you something now. I know you don't like talking

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<v Speaker 5>about politics. Oh we're not gonna talk about politics, I promise,

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<v Speaker 5>But do y'all consider Kamala Harris Black?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>So wait, what did you say her name was?

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't isn't it Kamala Harris?

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying Kamala, but I finally got it right,

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<v Speaker 3>finally learn that it is Kamala. I think you I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was Kamala, but it's Kamala.

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, I would say she is.

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<v Speaker 5>She had a drop of black blood. I think as

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<v Speaker 5>long as you have a drop of black blood and

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<v Speaker 5>you black, I don't know what the big deal about

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<v Speaker 5>that is, but I see people making that voting points.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Okay, there's three reasons people are gonna vote for

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala as y'all pronounce it Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>There's three reasons. One, people hate Donald Trump, they will

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<v Speaker 4>vote for her to spite. Two people think she's black. Three,

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<v Speaker 4>she's a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be the smartest one because most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>want a woman to be in front of the charge

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<v Speaker 2>of the free world, but there are women that want

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<v Speaker 2>empower women to put them in that position. There is

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<v Speaker 2>nothing else to talk about. You don't know nothing about

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<v Speaker 2>her policies. What policies would you vote for? What policies

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<v Speaker 2>she listen? If the Democratic Party is smart and this

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<v Speaker 2>is just me being having a PhD in marketing, I

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<v Speaker 2>have marketing down to a science. They will lean on

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<v Speaker 2>those three things every time this motherfucker get in front

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<v Speaker 2>of people. She should talk shit about Trump, So I

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<v Speaker 2>will make people vote for her every fucking time. All

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<v Speaker 2>that orange bastard she's not doing. DA ain't Chapelle need

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<v Speaker 2>to be right and joke for her. She needs to

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<v Speaker 2>hire a.

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<v Speaker 8>Woman that don't know how to hold a sentence.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why she needs to make your.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, make it funny, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Her is because she's not Donald Trump, because she's not policies.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody even know her policies. She got into business for

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<v Speaker 2>you to know her policies. And if you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>her as a politician, everything about her is politician one

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<v Speaker 2>O one. Like if you ask her a question, she

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<v Speaker 2>repeats the question back with nuance and shit, but never

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<v Speaker 2>answers the question. Like that's like politician one all of them. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not all of them. Some of them are men.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump was in front of the Association of Black

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<v Speaker 5>Journalists yesterday and they asked him about the signing Masie deal.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, okay, under your plan, would that officer be

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<v Speaker 5>granted clemency? He said, oh, are you talking about the

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<v Speaker 5>thing with the water. He didn't even know what was

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<v Speaker 5>going on, or that was his way of being.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart, but he never never.

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<v Speaker 8>He plays them very well.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is not.

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<v Speaker 8>He knew exactly what he was talking about. He just

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<v Speaker 8>didn't have a damn answer. Because they said before that

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<v Speaker 8>he wasn't able to go through the talking points, and

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<v Speaker 8>they were upset about that because he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 8>briefed on it before he went in front of them,

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<v Speaker 8>and they wasn't doing that. They're like, no, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>sit here and do whatever. He wasn't feeling none of that.

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<v Speaker 8>He told him that they were that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't get at him.

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<v Speaker 2>They did get at any foul they did. They just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just start grilling anything like him. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the point, so then you gotta take it when

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<v Speaker 2>you dish it. You gotta I'm not a Donald Trump fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't vote for their politician. I'm not voting for

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump because he's not giving reparations. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>voting for Come on common Luck because she's not getting reparations.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not voting for nobody that don't have black issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely wouldn't vote for somebody because they appear black

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<v Speaker 2>to me. He definitely put it into a place where

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't lose. Okay, if marketing First off, No Seilings.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the No Seilings podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>G L.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete is in California for this podcast. I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>the cameras up and running, so we didn't tape. But

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation is everything in podcasting.

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<v Speaker 7>But as long as we say that I'm in California,

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<v Speaker 7>that allows us to say I'm in California routinely with

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<v Speaker 7>no cameras and no one will no, I'll be to

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<v Speaker 7>Rick Ross of geography.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man anyway, So I'm saying, right, he's still just

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<v Speaker 2>covering kind of the experience, and I agree. So you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like in other artists you get more of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Like like, yeah, and who's to say, like I got listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I in my mind, I've never been critical of Ross, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have said things that were a bit honest,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when somebody's asking me about my journey.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I talked to Charlotte Mane on the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all go check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an interview from twenty and nineteen, really dope conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Was talking about two Pac months die.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him that I felt forced to be

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<v Speaker 2>more honest in transparent with the experiences of Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>street urban culture because of artists like Rick Ross right

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<v Speaker 2>where he was like he put it on so thick,

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<v Speaker 2>so the average everyday person could see the image right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I actually sold dope right in high school. I

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<v Speaker 2>so dope, like I actually touched birds, like I've actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, had a key load too, I've actually had

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<v Speaker 2>gallons of PCP.

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<v Speaker 4>Like these are not things as far.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, if you tell people that it's hard for

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<v Speaker 2>the average person who's not around and remember hip hop

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<v Speaker 2>is this very you know, ghetto or street urban culture

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<v Speaker 2>is a very small place a spec in America. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like it's a lot of ghettos in America. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the confusion as people believe there's a lot of ghettos

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<v Speaker 2>in America and they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's only a handful.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what it makes somebody like you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you come to watch and you come to where

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<v Speaker 2>we're from, is you could tell like this shit is

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<v Speaker 2>really it's a regular community.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is real. So when when I look at

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<v Speaker 4>somebody like like Rose right and and and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to paint the image of Miami drug dealer,

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<v Speaker 2>but and this is the brilliance of what he does

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<v Speaker 2>as a marketing person, go ahead, I'm sorry, No, I

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<v Speaker 2>was just gonna say I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that really.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe we're missing all of what Rick's whole thing is,

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<v Speaker 7>if I would step back and look at the totality

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<v Speaker 7>of his career, he's selling opulent consumption.

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<v Speaker 4>Go further, opulent consumption.

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<v Speaker 7>His He's really really selling a lust for money and

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<v Speaker 7>expensive ship. In the first album, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of It was a lot of how'd I get how

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<v Speaker 7>would you have the money, how would you know a

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<v Speaker 7>person with this kind of money spend it?

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<v Speaker 6>Or whatnot?

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<v Speaker 7>It's really a lot about maybox music. He didn't he

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<v Speaker 7>didn't call it fish scale music. Go to Maybock, sure,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was about cars and speeding in the boats.

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<v Speaker 4>And the perception of wealth.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And he kind.

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<v Speaker 9>Of graduated, or at least gradually drifted away from talking

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<v Speaker 9>about I did all this drug dealing to spend all

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<v Speaker 9>this money, to just I'm just buying all.

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<v Speaker 4>This shit off time.

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<v Speaker 7>That's where he's just talking about all the crap is buying.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree, But even to the motherfucking marketing mind

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<v Speaker 2>of what he's doing, you know, I'm lending this thought

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<v Speaker 2>to the marketing mind. He understood something that I didn't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>He understood most people have no idea about dope dealing.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I agree, Ross's goal was to sell wealth. He

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<v Speaker 2>always painted it from the beginning to the end. Now

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<v Speaker 2>to the place where he don't even have to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about selling dope. He can just talk about wealth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was saying, hey, this person, the reason I

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<v Speaker 2>have wealth is because of this life down the street

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<v Speaker 2>urban culture that Miami made famous. And he knew most

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<v Speaker 2>people didn't have any ideas of what it is. So

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<v Speaker 2>he painted the people. He connected most people who never

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<v Speaker 2>had any experience and said culture. He gave them points

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<v Speaker 2>to where they can get into what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he did say he knew nord Riega. Because if

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<v Speaker 2>he says he knew Rayful, you know, if he knew

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<v Speaker 2>Rayful Edmunds, they wouldn't know who that is.

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<v Speaker 4>If he said he knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the first King Zoe or whatever that waterhead bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>Waterhead bow out here, or if you knew little Daryl

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bay, people wouldn't know who that is.

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<v Speaker 4>He knew that they would know who.

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<v Speaker 2>Norie is because most Americans have heard that person's name

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<v Speaker 2>because the government pursued him.

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<v Speaker 4>He also dressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the movie idea of drug dealing, like the the

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<v Speaker 2>Colombian guys in the film Scarface, where Lenen, and that's.

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<v Speaker 9>Not how he used the Scarface track beat.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like jez Jesu. If you listen to TM one

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<v Speaker 4>on one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying it the other day, like it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top five greatest albums out of the South.

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<v Speaker 2>But I never realized how fucking corny it was until

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<v Speaker 2>recently because I heard all of the Scarface in the

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<v Speaker 2>window and I didn't pay because I never saw that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when I kind of i've over that

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<v Speaker 2>time since it first came out to now I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>little parts on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously YouTube is.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing Instagram, so you see clips and now you're

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<v Speaker 2>starting to kind of be.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit more familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though nothing has demanded for me to watch the film,

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<v Speaker 2>right It's like, nothing really about it seems interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>me still right now, but listening to those parts and

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<v Speaker 2>now when I listen to TIM one on one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Gez and them sonically did the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing Ross did you know, and Ross just painted.

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<v Speaker 2>It, you know, in a way to where more people

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<v Speaker 2>could be like, oh, I see what he's about. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the story was a lot more consumable for mainstream America,

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<v Speaker 2>even if not for us, because I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>ever cared if he actually so dope at I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I ever even started off thinking like he's so dope. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that was my thought when I first

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<v Speaker 2>heard hustling. Hustling always felt like I don't give a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck if you got a carpet cleaning business, you hustling.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, That's the feel it always gave me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had that part right, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Because like as somebody like Iced Tea always

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, like whenever we talk, he like, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>are so rich in culture, how you talk. Most people

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you

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<v Speaker 2>talk like everybody from where we're from. And it hit

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<v Speaker 2>me like the average person don't know what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Click click pool, y'all kick the frame in Nigga, Let

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<v Speaker 5>the games begin. As I stand there, talk the talk

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<v Speaker 5>cand on the campus of the Land of the scam

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<v Speaker 5>Lists taking penitentiary chances. Sick wooded Off, the rick wooded

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<v Speaker 5>blue Beanie, knitted, freshly acquidted, grind Grimeley, the big Body,

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<v Speaker 5>and the big Body with lyrics and drulics, hotter than

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<v Speaker 5>a hobby selling, Globo, bailing career, felling, Escalate three Brave Beer,

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<v Speaker 5>where fucking a thug for free and thug eat Niggas

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<v Speaker 5>call me your whole kid because I love the cheese, Janins, hustlers, pimps.

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<v Speaker 5>If you follow me, let me see you put your

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<v Speaker 5>hands up like a robbery. I solemnly swear to stay

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<v Speaker 5>down and slain the seat.

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<v Speaker 4>I spit in the name of the streets. I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 3>A row.

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<v Speaker 6>Of sea is hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Niggas are real live city.

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<v Speaker 2>What's funny is when niggas be talking about Dub and

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<v Speaker 2>they really got on him because of when he became

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<v Speaker 2>a better songwriter, right, and it really the chance that

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<v Speaker 2>the chance style, you know what I mean, that made

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<v Speaker 2>him like such a better songwriter. But most people only

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<v Speaker 2>discovered him, you know, because his songwriting got better, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the records got better, So now you're hearing it the

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<v Speaker 2>more right and it worked out for and well. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny that people don't realize how dope of an

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<v Speaker 2>MC he is.

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<v Speaker 4>Just flat out.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Dubb is a lyricist. I think people get caught

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<v Speaker 5>too cut up with the bing bang bang and all

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<v Speaker 5>that stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is necessary, which is necessary if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a great songwriter, Like when he did the Top Head.

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<v Speaker 5>My favorite one from him is that's right, y'all. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 5>dub go ahead, rock that ship the top shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah on my trade walk Jaggie as fuck with the

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<v Speaker 2>slow fuck Temple.

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<v Speaker 4>I drove a prom to that song.

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<v Speaker 6>That song was hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the ones, you are the ones you you Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>dub So thinking about early dub C, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like low profile, hearing some of his stuff

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, then hearing it as an adult

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<v Speaker 2>mass circle, you know what I'm saying, Like he was

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<v Speaker 2>already an EMC. You could tell he was like vested

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<v Speaker 2>in hip hop a lot different than more West Coast artists.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, even as he developed into a better

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<v Speaker 2>record rider where he would have those jingles and chants,

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<v Speaker 2>that is amazing. And it's funny that again people define

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<v Speaker 2>him as an MC that way. They're like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the type MC is, Like na Dug really wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>for me. But he also became such a better record

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<v Speaker 2>It's like hearing the later ice Cube without hearing the

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<v Speaker 2>early ice Q. Like if you never heard kill that

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<v Speaker 2>will you know Death Certificate Hid America's most you know,

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<v Speaker 2>straight out of Compton, any of that stuff, and you

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<v Speaker 2>only heard you know, uh, and you only heard like

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<v Speaker 2>dubs like ice Cube off West Side Connection, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, where he's a got lyrics to Wake

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<v Speaker 2>of Spirits. They showed me how to spin big heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, they showed me how to wake digits and

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<v Speaker 2>spin digits.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you hear him later on where he's yeay yay,

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<v Speaker 2>I pushed R Like if you only heard that ice Cube,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of missed what made ice Q fantastic as

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<v Speaker 2>an MC before the record.

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<v Speaker 5>Writer listening to pay Dues dub C and listening to

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<v Speaker 5>later dub C has two different experiences because pay Due's

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<v Speaker 5>dub C was hard to see h too. But when

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<v Speaker 5>he started just thinking about Halleen Genistad, he was to

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<v Speaker 5>put top Cat in your rep that you do stage

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<v Speaker 5>right for the Radical Evening. We got the mass circle

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<v Speaker 5>in the house this evening. Get down, then you're done

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<v Speaker 5>quite rock rocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's hard, harding, but to me, like the mastery

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<v Speaker 2>part of m saying dog is when you do something

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<v Speaker 2>that becomes your own. See, like, yes, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>traditionally dope MC where they just put words together and

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<v Speaker 2>they have a decent flow and you know the words.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's a mastery as a rapper where you

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<v Speaker 2>start to do things that only become you doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where to me, dub C is at or ice Q,

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<v Speaker 2>where they start to do things that uniquely become just

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<v Speaker 2>their own.

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<v Speaker 5>That's well, you know what the thing is, man, And

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<v Speaker 5>I know we feel in this conversation we was gonna

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<v Speaker 5>talk about some whole other stuff. The thing about Duve

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<v Speaker 5>what people don't understand is that Dub is a master

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<v Speaker 5>human beat boxer. Dub is a master free style of

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<v Speaker 5>Dub is a real.

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<v Speaker 4>MC, your master.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny you saying that, you know, whereever fuck

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<v Speaker 2>with the conversation was supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a difference between a rapper and a MC.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a MC is judged by really how they write

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, and you wouldn't think they are,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're really judged by how they're right, how they

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<v Speaker 2>write you know, double entendres, similes, you know, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>or master rapper is judged by how dope their professional

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<v Speaker 2>rap songs are. So a lot of the times when

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<v Speaker 2>we call somebody just rapping on a corner rapping, Yes, rapping,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's really MCing their control in the space too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but a rapper is really judged by how, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they actually make a rap record work. And it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because I think as a as an MC, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>a like a final level of getting to where that

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<v Speaker 2>is to where uniquely what I do is only minds.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't got there yet where Dub is at so

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<v Speaker 2>or where Cube is at or where jay Z is at,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still a step.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like it's like it's like when you find that glow,

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<v Speaker 4>like with a Bruce Lee Roy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like glow. They got the glow for sure. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna tell you one of my most memorable experiences, me

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<v Speaker 5>and high C probably performed a choir Canyon Is probably

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<v Speaker 5>a hundred times easily. And I remember it was high C,

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<v Speaker 5>dub C and MC breed resident pre SMC Breed And

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<v Speaker 5>for dub just to have the awareness that we was

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<v Speaker 5>in the house full of Mexican people and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>just this list shit like we're all my latinos at

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<v Speaker 5>and how they went crazy and how he just started

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<v Speaker 5>getting his walk on and he just did all that

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<v Speaker 5>fly gangs and stuff that night. Even for Breed to

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<v Speaker 5>come out there and have the awareness to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna do all these songs. He just started

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<v Speaker 5>off with to the beat, y'all, That's dope and one

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<v Speaker 5>and gonna kill a vibe and he just had a

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<v Speaker 5>rocking dog. He did that song three times in the row.

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<v Speaker 2>That night, and people want to hear it, especially that song.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I know I'm a master MC. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at a place to where I write uniquely in

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<v Speaker 2>my own style, my own flow, my own pace, a

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<v Speaker 2>master rapper where I master a rap style to where

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<v Speaker 2>when you hear it every time you can separate him

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh that's just glasses no. And to me

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I probably can MC as great as you

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<v Speaker 2>can MC. Like I could probably be on a song

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<v Speaker 2>with rock Kim or a song with card Face and

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<v Speaker 2>have a memorable verse, But can I make I seen

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<v Speaker 2>a man and die? Is true mastery as a rapper,

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<v Speaker 2>not as MC as a rapper. You know, to have

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<v Speaker 2>a sixteen that I can compete with, I can compete

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<v Speaker 2>with Lil Wayne When at a time I knew I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like now, I can compete with Lil Wayne when we're

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<v Speaker 2>rapping on the same song, But can I make a

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<v Speaker 2>MILLI Can I make a rap song that becomes infinitely

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<v Speaker 2>mind to where you hear it. You could automatically say

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<v Speaker 2>that's a glasses rap song, And to me, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between m singing and rapping. I ain't no big

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<v Speaker 2>political guy, bro, you know I ain't really you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I guess. In the streets, I'm more aware of policies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of my world of politics, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, where the street policies are dominant. But as

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<v Speaker 2>far as American policies, you know what I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really I get it. I get it makes sense to

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<v Speaker 2>me to some degree. Like it's really hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>because even like something like abortion, you know, I get

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<v Speaker 2>kind of both sides of it. Now, I'm probably like

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<v Speaker 2>more to the ladder of like you probably shouldn't get abortions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But then I do understand

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<v Speaker 2>those particular instances where somebody got raped and maybe somebody

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<v Speaker 2>may die if they deliver a child, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know I don't necessarily agree with the woman's body,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just think that's such a disingenuous you know, debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Like just when I think about policies, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, My problem is to me, they seem too simple.

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<v Speaker 4>Like which ones well, just how they should be.

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<v Speaker 2>America should be a country that depends on itself. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>now I don't know how that lines up right. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the fact we outsource so many things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and even compared to like

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<v Speaker 2>my hip hop career. Like I feel like one thing

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>my hip hop career did take punishment in it was

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<v Speaker 2>too many things outsourced. When I first came into this business,

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<v Speaker 2>like I believed in bringing everything in house.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>My older brother, some of my team, they didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>understand that. They were so used to just you know

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<v Speaker 2>how they saw you know, rap and hip hop going

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<v Speaker 2>because they were more vested in it than I was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember walking in thinking to myself, like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to I'm not going to uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to sell tickets to perform for somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to book the venue myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to press up my CDs and and and

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<v Speaker 2>push them throughout the West Coast myself, like even how

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted my own record deal when Freeway Rick and

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<v Speaker 2>Hamie Mani from John Street both who homes shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to them brothers, but they was gonna give me seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and five to launch Blue Division then, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was my goal. I really listened to Pool, my older brother.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to do the deal with Sony, like they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do a record deal with cash money in

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<v Speaker 2>different people, so you know.

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<v Speaker 4>They were more vested in hip hop. So I listened

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<v Speaker 4>to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But where we at now, like it's hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to other people who aren't as vested, but

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<v Speaker 2>I still do listen even if I don't take the advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen, But I also know the path I want

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<v Speaker 2>to walk, and I'm still you know, tweaking things because

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<v Speaker 2>really this path doesn't exist today. Like the last time

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<v Speaker 2>this path existed was probably like in the sixties and seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>before you know, corporations got involved into black music, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, when you had to do it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's my mentality, Pete, Like I really believe, like

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<v Speaker 2>yo to make this happen for Glasses and alone. As

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<v Speaker 2>an artist. Glasses is a is a is a person

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<v Speaker 2>of people. Like I've always done well when it's me

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<v Speaker 2>and people, but whenever, you know, you get behind the curtain, like,

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<v Speaker 2>no artist is gonna be able to be There's not

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<v Speaker 2>an artist today that's going to do better in a

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<v Speaker 2>room full of strangers than me, you know what I mean, There's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not an artist today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I could really say that, like, there's not an

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<v Speaker 2>artist today that will do better in a room full.

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<v Speaker 4>Of strangers than I would. True, it don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter which room it could be, the paless white folks

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<v Speaker 2>that don't even like Negroes, to the streetest most violent

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>negroes in the history of the world, the whole spectrum,

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, all colors in between. That's always worked

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<v Speaker 2>for me, and I know that that's been my gift,

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<v Speaker 2>that that worked for me. Well, I look at the

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<v Speaker 2>same with policies, Whereas, like I really believe in America,

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>bro that has that that's forced to fend for itself,

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<v Speaker 2>that has to create its own products, that has to

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<v Speaker 2>create its own cars, that has to create everything, because

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it makes sense to create jobs, right, That's

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<v Speaker 2>how you create jobs economy that pours into itself and

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<v Speaker 2>rewards itself. So to me, that's what makes it simple.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole concept of policy. Everything else is just bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Every other part of it

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<v Speaker 2>to me is just bullshit. Like that's the simple part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. This country should be pouring into itself, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and rewarding itself for porn. It should be this cycle

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<v Speaker 2>of things happening for Americans.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with it.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that like the way I would illustrate, like

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<v Speaker 7>my opinion. You know, how policy and the job marketing

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<v Speaker 7>US economy works is like a like the Hoover dam.

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<v Speaker 7>Our economy needs to grow in advance. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to grow in advance faster than the rest of

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<v Speaker 7>the world. So you don't want to like have a

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 7>big block of people stuck with these like low paying

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 7>pedestrian jobs that like really don't fit here. So you

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 7>kind of kind of but you have to you have

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 7>to manage the flow. You can't just open and let

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 7>all the water flood out like we did. You have

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 7>to hold a reservoir of domestic jobs while you strategically,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, let the water out of the bottom at

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 7>the same rate that it's coming in to keep that

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 7>water line stable, and we don't do a good job

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 7>of that because people want to you know, dump water

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<v Speaker 7>or buy water downstream, or however the hell you want

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<v Speaker 7>to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of crude oil, do we need to depend on

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<v Speaker 2>another country for something else?

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<v Speaker 7>We don't need to depend on crude oil. We were

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<v Speaker 7>net oil exporters during the Trump era. We got we

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<v Speaker 7>have so much freaking oil.

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<v Speaker 6>It's absurd.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 7>We have so much fossil fuel energy sources in this

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<v Speaker 7>country on our own land rights. It is utterly absurd.

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<v Speaker 7>That's just purely EPA policy because for whatever reason, Democrats

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<v Speaker 7>feel better about themselves when they buy oil from other

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 7>countries than when they buy it from here.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. That's it. So what I would like to

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<v Speaker 4>believe now, this is my intellect kicking in. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's limited information, so I can't even trust it.

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<v Speaker 4>A's just intellect.

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<v Speaker 2>But I genuinely believe when you start to pump too

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<v Speaker 2>much oil, like oil and water is the is the

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<v Speaker 2>Earth's life blood, right, and it does replin. It's just

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>like blood replenis is in our body. We could get

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>shot and love some blood and eventually our bodies will

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<v Speaker 2>repent it, you know, will replenish blood. And I do

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<v Speaker 2>think you can only pull so much, you know, so often,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before the earth needs to replenish blood, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Does that make sense? Yeah? So is there anything we

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<v Speaker 4>need to depend on for another country? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there something we do not that that cannot be

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<v Speaker 2>made in this country that we need to depend on

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<v Speaker 2>another country for?

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<v Speaker 7>There might be some rare earth mineral things. Everything really

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<v Speaker 7>just comes down to cost. Truth be told, we could

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<v Speaker 7>do everything here, but a lot of people don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to pay eighteen hundred dollars for a television. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 7>really what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but what if you can afford an eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars television? Do you get what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 7>Get I get what you what you're saying? This issue

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<v Speaker 7>is like there's a disassociation with verticals and costs and

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<v Speaker 7>all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>So at some point I think it comes down to, like,

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<v Speaker 7>all right, you're going to pay all these people who

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<v Speaker 7>make television blank dollars here and they'll have the money

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<v Speaker 7>to buy televisions. But like, the consumption rate doesn't always

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 7>outrun the production rate. So the demand doesn't always stay

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<v Speaker 7>on track with the supply, so when that starts to happen,

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<v Speaker 7>the company will go out of business because they're paying

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<v Speaker 7>an awful lot of money to make each television. And

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<v Speaker 7>then there's the demand you know doesn't keep up.

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