Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the
Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought
Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey May drops
Speaker 1: on today's episode of Reality with the King. She's back.
Speaker 1: She's my friend, she's my love. I adore her. She
Speaker 1: is also the host of an amazing podcast that I
Speaker 1: love listening to weekly called Citizen McCain Give it up
Speaker 1: on My beautiful friend Inside and Out.
Speaker 2: Meghan McCain.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Carlos, I love you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me and I always love coming
Speaker 3: on your show. And second of all, I just partner
Speaker 3: with a company called two Way, so on Mondays and
Speaker 3: Wednesdays at five o'clock live on YouTube or the two
Speaker 3: Way app if you want to talk about politics, That's
Speaker 3: what I'm doing every night for an hour until tonight
Speaker 3: do when we're recording, so if people want to join
Speaker 3: that too, it's just on YouTube. It's easy to find.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good, A congratulations for you.
Speaker 4: Know.
Speaker 2: Listen, I love your podcast.
Speaker 1: I listen to me and Megan text all the time,
Speaker 1: and I love how it's like the intersection between my
Speaker 1: politics and pop culture in.
Speaker 2: Most episodes, and you have great guests on.
Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about your podcast is there's so
Speaker 1: many people in the political landscape who respect you and
Speaker 1: your voice hate me.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a.
Speaker 2: Girl, it's live. People hate me. It is what it is.
Speaker 3: We hate you. You're like the kindest, smartest who would
Speaker 3: hate you.
Speaker 1: God, thank you so much, Thank you so much, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate that. But the thing is, honey,
Speaker 1: it's just listen. That's why always tell people, because they're like,
Speaker 1: how is Megan. I'm like, Megan is a cool ass chick.
Speaker 1: And what's been so funny is every time you come
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I have so many people text me like.
Speaker 2: I love Megan. I thought it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I try to tell Megan all the
Speaker 1: time that people like you.
Speaker 2: Mag it like, don't believe social media.
Speaker 3: I feel like your podcast gives me like some credibility
Speaker 3: though in the pop culture space. Because a lot of
Speaker 3: people that I like, love and respect, like my friend
Speaker 3: Anthony shout out to Anthony, listen to your podcast, and
Speaker 3: you know, it's a big it's a big, enormous pop
Speaker 3: culture podcast. So being invited on is obviously such a privilege.
Speaker 3: And it's always nice to go into spaces where people
Speaker 3: are not listening to like you know whatever, watching c
Speaker 3: Span all day and that's very popular. Us is your work,
Speaker 3: so it's like so fun for me and not be
Speaker 3: able to actually talk about like you know, the Housewives
Speaker 3: and stuff like that is really, you know, so fun.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, and listen, you our reality
Speaker 1: gourer as well, because you watch all the shows. So
Speaker 1: let's get right into it because we get to take
Speaker 1: our text messages now to the podcast audio space. And
Speaker 1: I'm super thrilled to recap the latest episode of the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of belly Hills with you and.
Speaker 2: You watched it right of course.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, this hasn't been the easiest season for
Speaker 3: me to watch.
Speaker 2: Talk about it, Megan, talk about it well, like I.
Speaker 3: Always say to you and I when we you know,
Speaker 3: text offline, like for me, it's like am I doing
Speaker 3: appointment viewing? Like making sure Ben has my kids, and
Speaker 3: I this is my time and I want to watch
Speaker 3: in Salt Lake City. This season was really that for me,
Speaker 3: Like I really couldn't look away like amazing I would
Speaker 3: Southern Term is an exactly appointment viewing, but I don't
Speaker 3: want to wait like more than a day before watching it.
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of Housewives franchises that I really
Speaker 3: like and look New York and Beverly Hills, New York
Speaker 3: was a whole different level of disappointment for me. But
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills has been a little boring. There's some plot
Speaker 3: lines that I like, am just not gravitating towards. And
Speaker 3: I saw you speaking with our friend Zach Peter, who
Speaker 3: was also just like the loveliest, kindest, most intelligent. I
Speaker 3: really adore both of you, but he I saw you
Speaker 3: saying you're a Slaton and I was like, poor loves
Speaker 3: and I may disagree, they disagree. I think it's a
Speaker 3: little boring this season. I don't know, but bos she
Speaker 3: is just I mean killing it. Everything about her she's
Speaker 3: doing right. I think that I like looking at her.
Speaker 3: I think she's beautiful. I like the way she dresses,
Speaker 3: I like the way she talks. I like that she's
Speaker 3: a straight shooter taking some unconventional approaches and some controversial takes.
Speaker 3: I wait, I really want to talk about this with you.
Speaker 3: There's rumors that she and Garcel got into it in
Speaker 3: the reunion because Garcel put Instagram post up that people
Speaker 3: are reading maybe like a shot at Bow's. So I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, has there been because they're
Speaker 3: clearly not connecting the way she's connecting with Dreid. But
Speaker 3: she's my favorite this season, like I just and I
Speaker 3: rarely like a first season housewife like this much. And
Speaker 3: if they get rid of her next season, I really
Speaker 3: like may Boycott on the street, Like I just like her,
Speaker 3: I don't know, And I think she'd be so fun
Speaker 3: to hang out with, Like I think he's just cool
Speaker 3: and smart and really direct, and I think she's mixing
Speaker 3: it up and calling bullshit out that has really been
Speaker 3: needed to be called out.
Speaker 1: Megan McCain, listen, we will we will agree. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we will agree on I feel like I was get
Speaker 1: them wrong. And again, I love Bo's and I love
Speaker 1: her so much.
Speaker 3: I think she's st John about that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the beautiful Saint John Darling. I love her
Speaker 1: so much. She is she is is killing it because
Speaker 1: she is so genuine and real and I don't think
Speaker 1: she's picking sigh at all. I think she looks at
Speaker 1: every situation and calls things as they see it, and
Speaker 1: that's what makes her such a great addition. I agree
Speaker 1: with you like she is by far my favorite new
Speaker 1: housewife of the year. I think kudos to the casting
Speaker 1: director who cast her. She's so fantastic. This season of
Speaker 1: Bisley Hills isn't the greatest. I definitely think a shakeup
Speaker 1: needs to happen. This episode, I'm going to be very honest,
Speaker 1: was boring. It wasn't great. Last week's episode was fine.
Speaker 1: This one was awesome.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was born because Bo's was not in it
Speaker 3: as much, Like she really wasn't in it until like
Speaker 3: kind of the fashion show with then, so I don't
Speaker 3: know that was part of it. And I Erica Jane,
Speaker 3: I just think is like again, I never want her
Speaker 3: to go anywhere. I think she's wonderful. I think she's whatever.
Speaker 3: But like, I'm not an interior design person in general,
Speaker 3: like I tend to like, like you know, I just
Speaker 3: am not interested in interior design and I don't care
Speaker 3: about interior design and all this like emphasis on interior design.
Speaker 3: I just would have loved to see more about where
Speaker 3: she's at in her life, dating, work, preparing for her
Speaker 3: Broadway show. You know whatever, I just don't care. And
Speaker 3: it sounds rude, but I don't mean it that way.
Speaker 1: No, You're being real. The thing is this, I want
Speaker 1: to see Erica Jane date on the show too. I
Speaker 1: want to see Erica and Dereit have like post divorce
Speaker 1: fun single women and bedly Hill's dating some of these
Speaker 1: like hot wealthy men or these hot young like actors
Speaker 1: or models, and like.
Speaker 2: Just be like super duper fun.
Speaker 1: Because what the other Housewives shows do so well is
Speaker 1: they follow the reality of where these women are in
Speaker 1: their lives. I got a chance to meet Erica Jane
Speaker 1: for the first time in December. She and I had
Speaker 1: a love fest about you. By the way, Megan, She's the.
Speaker 3: Nicest, you know. I was not able to go see
Speaker 3: her on Broadway this time because it was like smack
Speaker 3: dab inauguration. I had a friend who being confirmed into
Speaker 3: the new administration, and then I was doing I was
Speaker 3: relaunching this new show, and I just could not make
Speaker 3: it to New York and I feel fucking horrible about it,
Speaker 3: Like I feel I mean, she's been very gracious since
Speaker 3: I has her lovely coworker Layah, who I think, you know,
Speaker 3: because on the show sometimes and they're lovely. But I
Speaker 3: feel terrible about it. I saw Zach go and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my God, like my even my husband
Speaker 3: was like, I can't believe it. I was like, I
Speaker 3: just have been so busy. It's been so hard. So
Speaker 3: but I heard she was incredible and I love her.
Speaker 3: She's a really really genuinely wonderful person and uh a
Speaker 3: dear friend. And I just think she's so cool too,
Speaker 3: like just so everything about her is cool, you know,
Speaker 3: And I'm not cool, so having like cool friends like
Speaker 3: that mean, come on, she's like, you know, pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Her song was in Anora, then a Cademy Award winning
Speaker 3: Best Picture. For people who don't know Erica's song Drip,
Speaker 3: which is like a great, pretty, filthy song. I don't
Speaker 3: know that, yep, the it's the Mikey Madison the act
Speaker 3: dances to it in one of the scenes, and so
Speaker 3: I'm just like thrilled for her for that, Like what
Speaker 3: a pop culture like cool thing to have your song
Speaker 3: an Academy Award winning movie.
Speaker 2: No, She's dope, She's still She's dope.
Speaker 1: So let's get right into this recent episode because you
Speaker 1: and I have texts about this and I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts. So obviously we know that Kyle and
Speaker 1: Mauricio are separated, and in this episode they spoke about
Speaker 1: a Papa Razzo capturing Mauricio midkiss to.
Speaker 2: A young lady.
Speaker 1: And then moments later, Kyle is at Morgan Wade's concert
Speaker 1: and Guarcella Sutton believe that they're both trying to like
Speaker 1: outdate each other in the sense of like listen. Points
Speaker 1: were made Megan, and I know you have strong feelings
Speaker 1: about this. Points were made in the sense of all
Speaker 1: last season we saw Kyle and Morgan get tattoos. How
Speaker 1: did you guys meet was she was like stalking me
Speaker 1: and then a blush happened as Kyle was blushing. It
Speaker 1: was in our face, And up until then we did
Speaker 1: not see Mauricia with anybody. Mauricio kissing another woman at
Speaker 1: an airport. I don't think it's the worst thing because
Speaker 1: the woman was not on Bibley Hill's Housewives like Morgan was,
Speaker 1: and also she wasn't on buying Beverly Hills, his two
Speaker 1: season show on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Do you think two seasons? That show was horrible? And
Speaker 3: I'll watch anything like I watched them. It's the third
Speaker 3: season of Natalia Grace documentary. I will watch anything, and
Speaker 3: that show was trash. Sorry, it was terrible. I wasted
Speaker 3: my time trying to watch on show. Not true, lasted
Speaker 3: two seasons.
Speaker 1: Okay, ladies jumping big days and days. I can see
Speaker 1: my friends. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this? Because you have a strong opinions about this
Speaker 1: mortget Kyle Mauricio trifecta, and I want my audience to know, like,
Speaker 1: what do you think about what was displaying this episode?
Speaker 3: So I want to say that I respect and understand
Speaker 3: that you are a Kyle fan and a Kyle I
Speaker 3: don't want to get you in trouble because I know
Speaker 3: I think she's she's your friends right or friendly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we follow she follows me on Instagram. She's my
Speaker 1: favorite housewife. But but the thing that Kyle loves about me,
Speaker 1: I'm honest and I'm not like dissing her as a person.
Speaker 1: I'm honest about what I'm seeing on the show. So
Speaker 1: phil freestis struck.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know her and I've never met her,
Speaker 3: and I have no interactions with Kyle other than what
Speaker 3: I'm seeing on my TV. And this is what I like,
Speaker 3: just in general transparency in life. But I really like
Speaker 3: it with my reality TV stars. And she's been on
Speaker 3: that show. It's thirteen or fourteen years. I can't remember
Speaker 3: how many sy Yeah, I mean, that's insane. It's great.
Speaker 3: But watching her for like a really long, like my
Speaker 3: entire adult life, and she is really losing me because
Speaker 3: a I don't pretend to understand how difficult it is
Speaker 3: to reconcile with your sexuality, especially publicly. The only thing
Speaker 3: I can relate it to is my dear friend Klay
Speaker 3: Aiken was sort of outed by people before he came
Speaker 3: out of the closet. I've been with him on that
Speaker 3: journey for a very long time. We were very old friends.
Speaker 3: I don't downplay how difficult that journey is, and I
Speaker 3: don't understand it because I'm heterosexual. But she, as you said,
Speaker 3: last season, it looked to me like she was flirting
Speaker 3: with a woman, not hanging out with her best friend.
Speaker 3: When she was with Morgan and there are all these,
Speaker 3: you know, the music videos she did where it's very
Speaker 3: sexual and they're like, you know, almost kissing and feeding
Speaker 3: each other like fruit, and you know, it's just very
Speaker 3: very sexual music video and it's about love. So I
Speaker 3: had just assumed that they were together because you know,
Speaker 3: X plus Y equal Z. And then this season the
Speaker 3: erasure of Morgan, which I think arcel I saw in
Speaker 3: the preview coming up, calls out that we're allowed to
Speaker 3: talk about Mariicio, but we're not allowed to talk about Morgan.
Speaker 3: I agree with it. I just don't understand what's going
Speaker 3: on or what she's hiding or what she's scared of. Also,
Speaker 3: this is just me because I'm like a pretty intense person.
Speaker 3: If my husband is making out with some lady in
Speaker 3: Greece or where the hell they were, I mean I
Speaker 3: would be like, Carlos, I'm coming on your show and
Speaker 3: we're talking about my divorce and where I'm going next.
Speaker 3: I would just like light him on fire and I
Speaker 3: would end it because I don't want to be humiliated publicly,
Speaker 3: and I don't really understand what she's doing. I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Do you really think you guys are going to get
Speaker 3: back together? Because it doesn't seem like you guys are
Speaker 3: getting back together, and she's just there's so much she's
Speaker 3: holding back, clearly from sharing with the audience. And I
Speaker 3: think in a normal situation that'll be find But the
Speaker 3: problem is you're on one of the most popular reality
Speaker 3: television shows on the planet and I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: wasting my time with Kyle. I'm really and I love
Speaker 3: both calling her out on it, like I've really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: As a Kyle Richard stand and fan. I agree with
Speaker 1: everything you're saying. I love her, and my issue is this,
Speaker 1: when you are the face force multiplier queen Bee of
Speaker 1: the show, with that position comes great power and responsibility
Speaker 1: and effort. And because Kyle has shown how she let's
Speaker 1: let's have a real conversation. When Denise Richards allegedly made
Speaker 1: up of Brandy Glamville and they allegedly had something going on,
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards and the rest of the girls did not
Speaker 1: let up, on on on investigating.
Speaker 3: I thought it was cruel. Then Crozworth thought that was
Speaker 3: way too much. I felt like, you know again, I
Speaker 3: felt like, if Denise had this relationship where sexual encounter,
Speaker 3: she can be open about it. If she wants wants,
Speaker 3: but I felt like they just bullied her about it,
Speaker 3: and I thought that was unkind And no one's bullying
Speaker 3: Kyle in this situation. And I think that was like
Speaker 3: she was repeating rumors. Is that right? And it wasn't
Speaker 3: you know, this is like she's bringing this woman around
Speaker 3: all of us and taking pictures publicly and making music
Speaker 3: videos and go into her concerts and like.
Speaker 2: I don't know, no, Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I think to your point though, if Brandy and Denise
Speaker 1: Richards had sex, Brandy, a non housewife right at the time,
Speaker 1: revealed that and sort of exposed their relationship on camera,
Speaker 1: and Denise Richards denied it and the girls kept pushing
Speaker 1: her to be honest about it.
Speaker 2: The difference between that is Denise Richards.
Speaker 1: Did not bring Brandy around the girls and flirted with her, made,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like or assimilated a sort
Speaker 1: of like sexual relationship in the music video. I think
Speaker 1: what Kyle did this is my opinion. The mistake Kyle
Speaker 1: made Number one was introducing Morgan Waye to us last year.
Speaker 1: The flirty conversations during the tattoo moment the fucking music
Speaker 1: video was a lot to handle you can't give me.
Speaker 1: It's like having children, and Megan, you have two beautiful kids.
Speaker 1: You can't give your child all of these toys totally
Speaker 1: and then take it away from them for a year
Speaker 1: without without an explanation. And the only explanation we had was, well,
Speaker 1: Morgan doesn't want to be mentioned.
Speaker 2: That's fine, but at least say listen.
Speaker 1: I can't break her name up. But what I can
Speaker 1: say is I am experiencing something I never thought before,
Speaker 1: and I really like this woman deeper than just a
Speaker 1: friend like Teddy Mellacamp. And let's see where things go,
Speaker 1: because I owe that to the audience due to the
Speaker 1: sheer fact that I brought this woman on the show.
Speaker 1: And that's where Kyle is losing a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And as much as I try to find ways to
Speaker 1: be like, okay, let me see her point of view,
Speaker 1: I'm just being very honest here. It's very hard for
Speaker 1: me to defend her and the worth of Kyle Richards
Speaker 1: to her sister Kim in Amsterdam, when when Kim brought
Speaker 1: up the husband's Lisa Rena, Kyle said to Kim, you
Speaker 1: want me to defend you, but this is indefensible. That's
Speaker 1: how I felt about my girl Kyle's indefensible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think that, you know, because the
Speaker 3: Morgan Wade of it all. I am a huge country
Speaker 3: music fan. I'm from Arizona. Shooter Jettings played at my
Speaker 3: wedding Grammy Award winning that's like hungable brag, but like
Speaker 3: he has a lot of free cred in the country world.
Speaker 3: I love country music. I'd never heard of Morgan Wade
Speaker 3: before the show. I still have not heard of her
Speaker 3: music in any of the stations. And she is not
Speaker 3: a country star. I'm just saying it. And she's certainly
Speaker 3: not an alternative country star. And so my take is
Speaker 3: like on Morgan Wade's part, and I don't know her,
Speaker 3: just my opinion, you guys, But like she was clearly
Speaker 3: using Kyle for cloud and then like went in and
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I actually like the heats too much.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a now And I'm like,
Speaker 3: you're why do you not want to be associated with
Speaker 3: the housewives anymore? It's a privilege to be a part
Speaker 3: of like this incredible, iconic show. So like, I think
Speaker 3: both of them are confused and mixed up on how
Speaker 3: they do or do not want to utilize this enormous platform.
Speaker 3: But you know, she's not whatever, like you know, Morgan Wallen,
Speaker 3: Like she's not like some giant star filling up arenas.
Speaker 3: And I just don't understand, Like to me, there's some
Speaker 3: craven aspects of her role in this too. Chow.
Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the
Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1: I think last year, slash last season, Morgan wanted the
Speaker 1: limelight right Well, you and I both know, Megan, the
Speaker 1: moment you step on Housewives is a different thing that
Speaker 1: you experienced and could it have been a lot, sure,
Speaker 1: But I definitely think Kyle dangled the carrot didn't realize
Speaker 1: how big of a deal was going to be. I think,
Speaker 1: and Megan, you and I have spoken about this Handley.
Speaker 1: Fame is very difficult for a lot of people because
Speaker 1: you kind of want to do your thing and then
Speaker 1: you don't realize the multitude of like what consert being famous.
Speaker 1: I don't think Morgan mentally was able to handle the
Speaker 1: Tsunamia thing she was experiencing. And then and like you said,
Speaker 1: no shade to Morgan, no one knew about her so
Speaker 1: to come from anonymity to being infamous within twenty four
Speaker 1: hours will take a toning of mental health. And I
Speaker 1: understand that. The problem, though, is Kyle is the face
Speaker 1: of this show. So if Morgan doesn't want to tell
Speaker 1: us that, fine, but Kyle, you you have you have
Speaker 1: a duty to let us know something. And not only
Speaker 1: aren't you letting us know that about Morgan, we still
Speaker 1: don't fucking know what happened between you and Mauricio.
Speaker 2: And I think, like, you guys were together for twenty years.
Speaker 2: We saw you do.
Speaker 1: Splits around him, y'all make out, He grabs your body
Speaker 1: parts underneath the table, and these are things we saw
Speaker 1: him on the show. You guys had a sexual, like
Speaker 1: sexy marriage. You guys look great together, and then within
Speaker 1: a season you guys are separated. There were rumors that
Speaker 1: he was cheating for years. She always denied it, but
Speaker 1: now it's sort of like, well, could that be the reason.
Speaker 1: And I think Mauricio, in my opinion, I think Mauricio
Speaker 1: saw the Morgan Way scandal and was like, why the
Speaker 1: fuck am I'm not out here living my best life.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mauricio wants Kyle anymore. I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this, mom Meg, We'll love me.
Speaker 2: Get your thoughts.
Speaker 1: When a man reaches his peak, when he's older, gets
Speaker 1: more successful, makes a shitload of money, he wants other
Speaker 1: things sometimes not ah Man some and I think Mauricio
Speaker 1: is in his bad bitch era and he wants the
Speaker 1: young hot girl, especially not that his daughters are pretty
Speaker 1: much out of the house. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I also, to quote another housewife, Bethany Frankel, you
Speaker 3: can't play smart and stupid at the same time. They're
Speaker 3: trying to do both. I think they're both trying to
Speaker 3: be like, you know, I want to have fame, I
Speaker 3: want to be on this show, I want whatever. But
Speaker 3: I'll like our relationships so confusing, and i can't figure
Speaker 3: like it's not confusing. You guys cheated on each other
Speaker 3: and you're separated, and you should get divorced for both
Speaker 3: of your just like you know, like just your self worth.
Speaker 3: I would just never let a man treat me this way.
Speaker 3: And I would also just because I respect my husband,
Speaker 3: I would never treat them that way. Like if I
Speaker 3: was like out making music videos with women and having
Speaker 3: you know, decided that I had more been in a
Speaker 3: relationship with a woman, and I wanted to be, I
Speaker 3: would not do I would not treat him that way.
Speaker 3: We would deal with it privately, and then if I
Speaker 3: were in a reality show, I would talk about it after.
Speaker 3: And so I think the way they're all handling it
Speaker 3: is despicable. But you're saying that, you know, he has
Speaker 3: so much money, He's made so much money. I mean,
Speaker 3: Kathy last night was saying that he doesn't have money.
Speaker 3: What I didn't understand, Like, I'm like, is the agency
Speaker 3: not as successful as I thought? Like that was the
Speaker 3: shade that really caught me off guard. I was like,
Speaker 3: does Mauricio not have money? Are they pretending to have money?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't understand, I think, I think, I think.
Speaker 1: What I think what Kathy was intimating was Mauricia does
Speaker 1: not have Rick Hilt him money?
Speaker 3: Who does? I mean?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, right, that's that's the gay I think more. Listen,
Speaker 1: the agency is very successful? Is it Rick Hilton sccessful? No,
Speaker 1: but it's successful.
Speaker 3: But but okay, here's something I heard though, is that
Speaker 3: the agencies a franchise. Because I was under the impression
Speaker 3: that he owned all of it, but apparently he does not.
Speaker 3: He just owns like some of the and again it's
Speaker 3: just something I read online, but like, and I know
Speaker 3: they're absurdly wealthy by anybody's standard, you know, any regular
Speaker 3: American standard. But I don't know. Just I have questions
Speaker 3: now since Kathy said that, I don't know. I just
Speaker 3: have questions. I always have questions about people who display
Speaker 3: their wealth like that, you know, because you know, I
Speaker 3: know really really rich people, and they're quiet and demure,
Speaker 3: very mindful, very demure. They're not going around showing it off.
Speaker 3: You know, they're not in their cyber trucks. They're like
Speaker 3: quiet about it, at least the ones.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's like a DC thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's what we call old money, Meggan.
Speaker 1: You know people with old money, honey, who are like
Speaker 1: very quiet about it.
Speaker 2: Bots and bots.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that, honey, because you know, you
Speaker 1: look at someone like Nicky Hilton's husband, James Rothschild.
Speaker 2: You don't see James Rothschaw even a cyber truck and.
Speaker 3: Flying totally totally.
Speaker 1: But no, So, Megan, let's talk about the Kathy shade.
Speaker 1: So you may know this, but I'll remind you remember
Speaker 1: Mauricio used to work for the Hilton Brand.
Speaker 3: Yes, they had like a breakup, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: A bad one, a very bad one.
Speaker 3: Because I'm like clients, right, is that right? Like?
Speaker 2: So allegedly.
Speaker 1: When Maurice, Okay, Mauricio and Kyle when they were young parents,
Speaker 1: they both got their real estate license at around the
Speaker 1: same time, right, so they studied for it obviously, which listen,
Speaker 1: one thing I love about you, Megan, You're like, I'm
Speaker 1: a NEPO baby and I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: I still work right like on your shit. Right.
Speaker 1: So obviously Rick hill Ten is married to Kyle's sister, Kathy.
Speaker 1: So my brother in law owns this agency. Me and
Speaker 1: my husband got a real estate license, what's next? So
Speaker 1: he he.
Speaker 3: Worked for dynamic. By the way, it would be like, yes,
Speaker 3: it's an interesting dynamic. It'd be like if one of
Speaker 3: someone I was related to married someone who decided to
Speaker 3: get into political commentary, Like that's an interesting dynamic for
Speaker 3: their family. I'm just saying, like it's you know, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying I can see what Kathy and Rick maybe
Speaker 3: had issues with it. I don't love it. Sorry, I
Speaker 3: think about that. This thing is kind of weird, Like
Speaker 3: to choose the industry that your in law is an
Speaker 3: icon and comes from an iconic family from sorry you
Speaker 3: look so.
Speaker 1: Shocked, Well you know that's my my friends because you listen,
Speaker 1: because you're not. Come from two different worlds, and the
Speaker 1: beauty of our friendship is the fact that we're both
Speaker 1: like magmatist, like, what do you think about this? I'm like,
Speaker 1: girl that that she said. Okay, I thought that too.
Speaker 1: By the way, I like assume so I'm dagging because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I never thought of it that way. It's
Speaker 1: one thing if my sister met a real estate agent exactly,
Speaker 1: but they both got their license doing their marriage, while
Speaker 1: my sister's husband owns the fucking Hilton courtesy of like
Speaker 1: family generational wealth and handoff so.
Speaker 3: Famous hotel chain on the planet, I mean beyond.
Speaker 2: So there you have it. So then Megan.
Speaker 1: Rick decided to start his own agency while he was
Speaker 1: working at the Hilton, and this is alleged, alleged. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: Rick Hilton said obviously you can go, but don't take
Speaker 1: this particular person, and allegedly Marizio took that person and
Speaker 1: that's how this whole beef started and they didn't speak
Speaker 1: for years.
Speaker 3: What I also think is interesting is that Paris Fulton
Speaker 3: has attacked Mauricio publicly, and I just again, I'm really
Speaker 3: not trying to throw things around, but this is like
Speaker 3: important in the context of this. So, of all things,
Speaker 3: my mother is friends with Paris Hilton because they've worked
Speaker 3: on a bunch of sex trafficking bills together, checked their receipts.
Speaker 3: Paris Hilton and my mom call each other on Instagram
Speaker 3: and sometimes she comments on my mom's Instagram, which never
Speaker 3: doesn't entertain me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sadey mckainn you legend exactly.
Speaker 3: She has the nicest things to say about Paris Hilton. Classy, smart, kind, respectful,
Speaker 3: everyone gets selfie with everybody. Paris Hilton also came to
Speaker 3: DC like a few month ago, a few months ago
Speaker 3: to also talk about this bill. Because she was sexually
Speaker 3: abused when she was at a boarding school. Everyone I
Speaker 3: know interact with her, I mean, could not say the
Speaker 3: nicest things. I don't know these people, but I think
Speaker 3: the Hilmes are pretty classy. So for Paris to come
Speaker 3: out and say things about Mauricio, I can only imagine
Speaker 3: they were pushed pretty far. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 2: Well, now it was bad.
Speaker 1: It was bad, and the fact that she publicly did
Speaker 1: this on social media in defense of her father because
Speaker 1: of what I just said. The the allegations that I
Speaker 1: made about what happened between Rick and Mauricio is all alleged,
Speaker 1: but Mauricio said those things on his Netflix show, and
Speaker 1: that's when that's when Paris felt the need to defend
Speaker 1: her father. And obviously we all can understand defending her
Speaker 1: family member. So the shade that Kathy threw to Mauricio
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, she probably doesn't feel
Speaker 1: the need to defend her brother in law who made
Speaker 1: this sort of decision. And she also just shaded the
Speaker 1: fact that like move on, and and and she and
Speaker 1: she started to do you cash this? She started to
Speaker 1: talk about the cheating, and Kyle stopped her.
Speaker 3: Okay, why won't they move on? What are they what
Speaker 3: are they both still gaining by this? Is it just
Speaker 3: like the cat and mouse intrigue of it, which I
Speaker 3: think everyone's collectively sick of. But I just I don't understand.
Speaker 3: I don't understand when either of them want to get divorced.
Speaker 3: Is a money thing?
Speaker 2: I think some money thing. I think this.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this was ever public, so I
Speaker 1: don't know rain drops, tell me if it was. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a pre nup sign because when
Speaker 1: they got married, they were both not wealthy. Right, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of money at stake in this, in this divorce,
Speaker 1: and I think when it comes to and I would
Speaker 1: love to get your thoughts on this, Megan, you obviously know.
Speaker 2: A lot of wealthy people owed money. I know some.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot, but okay, well no more.
Speaker 5: Than me, all right, So that's a lot to well
Speaker 5: question for you when it comes to the image that
Speaker 5: you have to portray to the world.
Speaker 1: Is this normal and high society that we have to
Speaker 1: protect the image of the family, and let's go about
Speaker 1: this divorce quietly.
Speaker 3: That's definitely a thing. I actually know a couple that
Speaker 3: thought they're like separate. They're separated, but they're not officially
Speaker 3: like they don't think they file paperwork, but they're like old.
Speaker 3: They're like, I mean, I think he's in the seventies
Speaker 3: and sixties, like they're like, it's sort of like a
Speaker 3: understood And the only reason why I even found out
Speaker 3: was because he had a girlfriend or like a woman
Speaker 3: that he was bringing around that was not his wife.
Speaker 3: And I was like, uh, does someone want to tell
Speaker 3: me what's happening here? So, like, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think if you're in a reality TV show and you're
Speaker 3: only you know, I think they're both What are they
Speaker 3: like sixty? Like they're they're not that old? Like how
Speaker 3: old are they? Don't know how old they are?
Speaker 2: Like old Kyle?
Speaker 3: How old are they?
Speaker 2: They're not their sixties, Meggied?
Speaker 3: How old are they? Late fifties? I'm not. I literally
Speaker 3: thought she was like sixty. Sorry, how old is she?
Speaker 2: Oh, Kyle?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, I'm looking this up.
Speaker 2: Look me.
Speaker 3: Also, I'm sorry. I wasn't that far off. So sorry,
Speaker 3: I got more off. I don't mean that at large,
Speaker 3: Like if I'm fifty six, I'm not. You're not seventy,
Speaker 3: you're not, Like, but I don't know they have kids,
Speaker 3: they have whatever, KYLERI just gonna unt my I asked down,
Speaker 3: trying and burn my house down after this conversation.
Speaker 2: Anything wrong.
Speaker 3: I don't like her this season on the show.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just don't. And I'm not obsessed with
Speaker 3: Sutton even though you are.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Sun.
Speaker 3: Okay, I tell me why you like her? Still?
Speaker 2: Okay? No, no, no, So I'm gonna be so the
Speaker 2: thing that you know about me, You and.
Speaker 1: I see things and we're like, oh, they're playing up
Speaker 1: for the camera.
Speaker 2: They're being fake. This isn't real on bored right.
Speaker 1: Last week's episode, when she pretty much told to read
Speaker 1: my wile is bigger, I have just.
Speaker 3: Disgusting to subd Sorry. I really hated so, I really, really,
Speaker 3: really really had our strong reaction to that, because a
Speaker 3: the idea that someone's self worth is based off how
Speaker 3: much money they have is just bullshit. Some of the
Speaker 3: grossest people I know are some Diesel money people are
Speaker 3: people I've met, and some of the most incredible people
Speaker 3: I know. You know, Like, so you're saying, like every
Speaker 3: teacher who makes you know whatever, teachers are paid almost nothing,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, fifty grand a year, forty grand year,
Speaker 3: sixty grand year, whatever. Teachers you know, they don't make anything.
Speaker 3: They should be paid so much more. You're saying they
Speaker 3: don't have worth. I just thought it was just repulsive
Speaker 3: thing to say, And I didn't understand where she's like,
Speaker 3: my wallet's bigger, my wallet's bigger. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: you're not Jeff Bezos Number one and number two is
Speaker 3: this is how you value your friends. I wondered how
Speaker 3: Garcel felt about that, because she's a self made woman.
Speaker 3: She didn't get her money from her husband I'm aware of.
Speaker 3: I mean, she seems to work very hard on the show,
Speaker 3: producing movies and acting and doing all these things. And
Speaker 3: I just felt like, if you're Garceler, you like, oh
Speaker 3: do you judge me? Because I don't have you know, whatever,
Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos money. I just really, I really really really
Speaker 3: thought it was disgusting, and it's why I don't like Sudden.
Speaker 3: I just think it's just trashy and mean. Sorry I know.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, let's have real conversation. So
Speaker 1: first of all, this is my favorite episode so far. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: I love it because I love it when because you
Speaker 1: and I are just like, we're really honest and we
Speaker 1: don't say shit for like, oh let me just sound
Speaker 1: good for them. No, we say the real ship, which
Speaker 1: is why you're not both like Zach Peters and a
Speaker 1: bunch of other friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we say how we feel.
Speaker 3: So look all this straight shooters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the McDonald we love, like we love straight Shooters.
Speaker 1: This is what I'll say. I have called out Ston
Speaker 1: ever since she got on the show in terms of
Speaker 1: I want to see the real soon and I always
Speaker 1: felt that sutt and play to the audience. I was
Speaker 1: the first one to mention I don't believe in the
Speaker 1: gar Cel and Son friendship. I think it's a friendship
Speaker 1: of convenience, because I said two years ago, I just
Speaker 1: don't believe in my heart that if Garseell was not
Speaker 1: on the show, that's a Sudden Strap would be friends
Speaker 1: with her.
Speaker 2: I I never believed it, and unfortunately I.
Speaker 3: Only wants to be friends with like pajillionaires.
Speaker 2: Is that yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think this and I'm connected to what
Speaker 1: she said in last week's episode. I Sutten gives me
Speaker 1: a social climber and that's nothing negative, like it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Sudden gives me old school Southern woman
Speaker 1: who who comes from money and there's a certain circle
Speaker 1: of people she wants to be around, which is why
Speaker 1: she got into it. Willis sa Rena about the Elton
Speaker 1: John tickets the foundation, like I bought the table, you
Speaker 1: need to pay me back, like she which is fine,
Speaker 1: Which is fine. Something then became like to me safe
Speaker 1: for Twitter, and when I made that comment about the
Speaker 1: alliance of her and guard Sells friendship. Oh Megan, you
Speaker 1: thought I said something negative about their character, And then
Speaker 1: both Sudden and Guard subm mad to comment about my statement.
Speaker 1: I then ran into Sutton at a restaurant.
Speaker 2: I introduced myself to her, he and Megan. She was lovely.
Speaker 1: I explained myself to her, and she and I had
Speaker 1: a great conversation. I ran to Garsell, I explained myself
Speaker 1: to her. She and I had a great conversation. I
Speaker 1: just said, like this is I'm recapping the fucking episode.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. I don't mean to like diss
Speaker 1: you guys as people. That's not my attention. Long story short,
Speaker 1: but Sun said to Durret to me is the real Sutton?
Speaker 1: And when I said, I'm a slut and finally, what
Speaker 1: I meant by that is finally you're showing who you are.
Speaker 1: Not granted, it's not a statement that it's popular, but
Speaker 1: I appreciate anybody who's brave enough to be themselves on
Speaker 1: camera and who can face the backlash from a statement
Speaker 1: like that, because I do agree with you.
Speaker 2: I even said, like, well, Sutton, this is no shade.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, no shade, girl, is
Speaker 1: not like you were the one clocking in at work
Speaker 1: sixty hours a week. Like you know, your money's capped
Speaker 1: at three point fifty which is a lot of money,
Speaker 1: three hundred fifty thousand a month. But some people can
Speaker 1: argue something that's your alimony. Again, there's tons of arguments.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to something, I want her to
Speaker 1: be her son because I don't watch the show to
Speaker 1: see people play it safe. I don't watch the show
Speaker 1: to see people play up to the cameras. And I
Speaker 1: agree with you about Garcel. I set my podcast. I
Speaker 1: love Garcel. I need for Garsel and they just take
Speaker 1: their reunion last Friday, Megan, I need Garcel to call
Speaker 1: out what you and I both text about. What all
Speaker 1: of my friends text me about. What's the microaggressions of
Speaker 1: Sutton's mother riba.
Speaker 3: Time watching that, Joe Megan text me, I.
Speaker 2: Did if I'm able to share? Megan. Megan text me
Speaker 2: and was like, how do you feel about that scene?
Speaker 1: And I said I'm uncomfortable and she said, okay, thank
Speaker 1: god I feel the same way. And I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable. Garcel called out Derrie. She has to
Speaker 1: call out Reba like it is what it is, and
Speaker 1: you're right. If Dree would have made that statement about
Speaker 1: her wallet being bigger than bows, oh my gosh, it
Speaker 1: would have been World War three to me on that tape,
Speaker 1: I'm at that table with Garcel. And when Garcel and
Speaker 1: Deury had that scene in this episode where she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like what Sun said.
Speaker 2: Well, Garcel, honey, you just say it then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, called her out the.
Speaker 1: Way you called out Bowls defending Derie, call out Son
Speaker 1: and say Son, I love you.
Speaker 2: That's fucking gross.
Speaker 3: I think part of the thing, too, is when you
Speaker 3: have friends, so genuine friends, people screw up. I mean,
Speaker 3: I ask you advice on lots of different things that
Speaker 3: are not just reality show driven, because sometimes there's one
Speaker 3: other opinion from someone I trust and you know, think
Speaker 3: is smart. And I think part of the problem with
Speaker 3: Garcela is when you're so a tunnel vision about someone
Speaker 3: you love or you know, I assume she loves her
Speaker 3: if they're that close to friends. You also have to
Speaker 3: see the forest for the trees. It's important to keep
Speaker 3: clarity and transparency and honesty. And I think Garcel's really
Speaker 3: hurt herself this season. I like Garcel. I think she's
Speaker 3: just like one of the most beautiful women that's ever
Speaker 3: been on Housewives. Like I was even thinking that last night,
Speaker 3: Like she's just her face and her God Like, she's
Speaker 3: just a gorgeous woman. I mean, like stunning and.
Speaker 1: Parts of the meggot she's she's im Parson Garcel's beauty is
Speaker 1: late though she's in Parson's everything.
Speaker 3: She's really like very striking. Like I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I don't hope that doesn't sound weird.
Speaker 3: I just you know, she's obviously you're not on that
Speaker 3: show if you're not, you know, beautiful. But I I
Speaker 3: think that she's hurt herself a little bit too. I'm
Speaker 3: like a fan of hers. I like her work. I
Speaker 3: like what she's doing. I like that she's sort of
Speaker 3: self made. I want more from her in general dating,
Speaker 3: you know, if she's going to be shooting her show,
Speaker 3: is there any like drama on some of these movies
Speaker 3: she's making. I don't like her just being set in sidekick.
Speaker 3: I think she can give us a lot more than that.
Speaker 3: I don't think she should be off the show. I
Speaker 3: know some people are saying that because she's had not
Speaker 3: a great season. I don't agree with that, but I
Speaker 3: think there's got to be a real come to Jesus
Speaker 3: with producers and this cast for next season, because this
Speaker 3: is unsustainable for me and Sutt And again, like I
Speaker 3: just I feel bad for her mom because her mom's
Speaker 3: like eighty two or something, and you know, eighty two
Speaker 3: year old Southern people, there's a stereotype about them. But
Speaker 3: that moment was awful and made me extremely uncomfortable. I mean,
Speaker 3: not to get like too heavy with you. My sister
Speaker 3: Bridget is not white, she's adopted, and it reminded me
Speaker 3: somewhat of like the way certain people would talk to
Speaker 3: me versus where they would talk to her in different
Speaker 3: kind of social situations. So like, you know, I may
Speaker 3: be like a white nappo baby Republican, but I'm well
Speaker 3: aware of what a microaggression is and what racial bias
Speaker 3: looks like. And I really thought it was very disrespectful
Speaker 3: to Garcel. And I just you see the way she
Speaker 3: was treating Kyle versus the way she was treating Garcel,
Speaker 3: and it was rough. It's dark and it's rough and
Speaker 3: it's sad. But I agree, if I were Garcel, I
Speaker 3: would have said something yeah, no, and I want the
Speaker 3: world to know.
Speaker 2: Not that you need this, but I'm just being honest here.
Speaker 1: You text me the moment it happened, and I didn't
Speaker 1: watch the episode yet. You said, did you watched this scene?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm actually gonna watch it tonight, and you said, well,
Speaker 1: text me after you watch it. And then I texted
Speaker 1: me and said, oh, honey, what the fucking you said? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one, right, I'm like, oh, numb, honey.
Speaker 1: As a black person, I was so uncomfortable. And I
Speaker 1: felt bad for Garcel too, because she kept trying hard,
Speaker 1: and Reebu just didn't want to give her that. And
Speaker 1: then I think I'll tell you this, Megan. She regifted
Speaker 1: the scar back to Garcil.
Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, how do you know that that
Speaker 3: wasn't on the.
Speaker 2: Shop and on an after show.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so bad. I didn't got the scarf thing either.
Speaker 3: If somebody gave me a beautiful scarf, like you know,
Speaker 3: presented that way, I would be so great, like excited.
Speaker 3: I didn't that even that I didn't understand. It's like
Speaker 3: they're giving you this beautiful gift as a house sermon gift,
Speaker 3: and again, like I don't like stereotype people. But I
Speaker 3: also think when people show you their behavior and show
Speaker 3: you who they are, you should believe them. And I
Speaker 3: don't actually need any more but just for like what
Speaker 3: it's worth. Like and again, I'm not trying to like
Speaker 3: punch down to an elder lady because like whatever, I
Speaker 3: don't need any more read the storylines. I don't need
Speaker 3: to hear about it. I don't need a relationship with
Speaker 3: her mom. I don't honestly give a shit. I also think,
Speaker 3: like again, like in the age range they're in, I'm forty,
Speaker 3: like get over your mom and dad issues, Like you
Speaker 3: you got to, like at a certain point, you've got
Speaker 3: to take ownership of like who you are and how
Speaker 3: you behave. And I'm I'm lucky I don't have those
Speaker 3: kind of issues because I had great parents. But I
Speaker 3: just feel like therapy is good for everybody. And it
Speaker 3: was it's like very clear that needs some like very
Speaker 3: serious therapy. And I don't want to be on this
Speaker 3: journey with her. I don't care her. I don't I've
Speaker 3: had enough. And even last night at the ending of
Speaker 3: her fashion shows, you was like my mom, I couldn't
Speaker 3: be here in my mind, and I was like, do
Speaker 3: you I don't care. I don't care about this plot
Speaker 3: with your no vine, but I just don't care. I've
Speaker 3: had so much of enough of Sutton in her mom Like,
Speaker 3: I just it's weird. It's like a weird plot line.
Speaker 3: And again, is all of this just to not do dating?
Speaker 3: Is this so she like doesn't have a dating plot line?
Speaker 2: Megan, you know, your girl after my own heart. So
Speaker 2: I want to say.
Speaker 3: You've damaged yourself because you're still a fan of hers.
Speaker 2: So do you think, Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of somebody who's real, Like, for example,
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect example.
Speaker 1: I loved you the moment I saw you on the
Speaker 1: View as a fan.
Speaker 2: Right, Everybody was like, why do you like her?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I said that Megan McCain, Honey, she sits
Speaker 1: on that panel and she fights for her opinion to
Speaker 1: be heard. And even if I don't agree with what
Speaker 1: she's saying, I appreciate somebody with a different view. And
Speaker 1: then when I got a chance to meet you, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, she's actually nicer in person.
Speaker 1: And then we started to like talk and hang, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, She's everything. So for me, I like anybody
Speaker 1: who's like my opinion may not be the most popular,
Speaker 1: but this is who I am and that's why I
Speaker 1: love you so much. That's why I liked something last
Speaker 1: week's episode. But the thing that needs to happen with
Speaker 1: these reality stars, and this is the question you're asking
Speaker 1: me too.
Speaker 2: Are we getting the rib A.
Speaker 1: Storyline because we're not getting dating. I will say this
Speaker 1: to you, and I'm just being honest. I think the
Speaker 1: reason why our girl, Erica Jane is not going to
Speaker 1: give the dating storyline is because the moment you show
Speaker 1: your man on TV, and in this case, when Kyle
Speaker 1: showcased Morgan her friend, all bests are off in terms
Speaker 1: of you having any more secret dates. So it's the
Speaker 1: reason why we're not seeing Kim Kardashian date reality stars
Speaker 1: who are single, Sutton Garsel, Erica Jane. Let's be clear,
Speaker 1: they're dating somebody.
Speaker 3: Sure they have to be great.
Speaker 2: Those three beautiful women. You mean to tell me there's
Speaker 2: not a.
Speaker 3: My knowledge, and again, I don't think I'm exposing anything.
Speaker 3: I don't think Erica has a boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Not a boyfriend dating. Okay, I feel like I see
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell youho.
Speaker 1: I see Erica Jane with so Erica Jane, you're listening
Speaker 1: because she loves you, Megan, and she said, Carlo, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. You obviously speak holly of me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love you, Erica. I love Erica. When it was
Speaker 1: unpowerulus to love Erica, I said, when Erica said, what
Speaker 1: the fuck about me?
Speaker 2: Fuck that shit? Like what about me?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, bitch, I agree with you, Okay, I digress.
Speaker 1: I see Erica Jane, our friend with a hot young
Speaker 1: man who's just like you know, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: Is he Tom Geraldy wealthy?
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but he's somebody that has enough money to
Speaker 1: pick up the check. He's somebody who has enough money
Speaker 1: to send a black car to pick her up for
Speaker 1: a date, you know what I mean. They fly commercial,
Speaker 1: but he's he's buying first class tickets.
Speaker 2: That's who I see her with.
Speaker 1: And and he's super hot and he's he's like just
Speaker 1: into her.
Speaker 2: I don't see eric with the older man ever again.
Speaker 3: So I can see it both ways. I could see
Speaker 3: her with like a retired football player, like like for it,
Speaker 3: like some I don't cafolla sports. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: like very little blesswords with like or basketball there or whatever,
Speaker 3: like an ex athlete, but like a known person, like
Speaker 3: someone who like you would know the name of and
Speaker 3: then or And I feel like I have told her this,
Speaker 3: and if I haven't, then Eric, if you're listening, I
Speaker 3: will say it again. I can actually see her with
Speaker 3: a real DC power person like I could see like
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying like Democrat or Republican. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: you know, someone who had held a cabinet position in
Speaker 3: the Obama White House, a high level maybe not like
Speaker 3: you know, complete at their peak right now, but someone
Speaker 3: who's like extremely well respected, maybe still has a secret
Speaker 3: service detail because they have like you know, I actually
Speaker 3: can see her playing a great girlfriend role to someone
Speaker 3: like that because she is so presentable in every social situation,
Speaker 3: and she's extremely extremely well versed on politics. She is
Speaker 3: very very smartness. We saw it, she talked about it
Speaker 3: in like a few see and ago, like she was
Speaker 3: talking with remember she was talking with like someone at
Speaker 3: the dinner table when they were in France.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like she could really be and I, you know,
Speaker 3: like if I see someone but that's who I personally
Speaker 3: see her with I could see her with like a
Speaker 3: real power player.
Speaker 2: Well, Meghan, sorry, you know, no, no, no, that's my husband.
Speaker 3: And I are always thinking about it. But she's she's
Speaker 3: a Democrat, so it's a little trick here for me
Speaker 3: also as much or an independent. I don't remember which
Speaker 3: one she is.
Speaker 2: Actually, I missed the days where I forgot that. There's
Speaker 2: a couple.
Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now, but I think
Speaker 1: it's so dope when a Republican and a Democrat like
Speaker 1: in a relationship.
Speaker 3: My favorite, it's my favorite. I like Carville and his wife.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite. James Carville, the famous UH statist, don't work?
Speaker 3: Get him and his wife. He was a because he
Speaker 3: was advising Clinton and she was advising Bush.
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: I would love to sit at a table with a
Speaker 1: couple where once a Republican wants a Democrat and they
Speaker 1: just have a different point of view. But it's respectful
Speaker 1: and it's interesting. I think it keeps a relationship sexy.
Speaker 1: So I can see Erica with somebody who's like a
Speaker 1: hot young Republican.
Speaker 2: I would love to talk about that.
Speaker 1: But what was that Erica Jane Kennedy?
Speaker 3: I could just see her with a power player, like
Speaker 3: with a ken, like with a like you know, like
Speaker 3: someone with a notable last name, you know, like I
Speaker 3: could definitely see it, Like I don't know. I just
Speaker 3: think maybe I know her in a different context too.
Speaker 2: Friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's just very sophisticated, very smart, like like
Speaker 3: obviously there's this like it's expensive to be me showgirl
Speaker 3: aspect of her. But I don't know, I could just
Speaker 3: see her with like a real I think she needs
Speaker 3: to be with one at her level power wise, though
Speaker 3: I don't think she can punch down. I think she
Speaker 3: needs someone who is going to meet her at her like,
Speaker 3: you know, where she What is it that there's a
Speaker 3: I saw a thing. It's like stand in your light,
Speaker 3: Like I want her to stand in her light and
Speaker 3: have her partner stand in their light too. Does that
Speaker 3: make sense?
Speaker 1: It makes total sense. It makes total sense. So last
Speaker 1: question for you, my sweet love.
Speaker 3: Last question.
Speaker 1: I know I talk to all day, like all day,
Speaker 1: Last question, babe. We all believe that there needs to
Speaker 1: be a shake up on the Real Housewives of Belly Hills.
Speaker 1: So Megan McCain, you political pundit, you, you pop.
Speaker 4: Culture enthusiast, you reality watch her You who do you
Speaker 4: think should return to the next season of the Real
Speaker 4: Housewives of Belly Hills.
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, anybody from the past? I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I'm a Lisa Rena stand forever. I love Lisa Rena.
Speaker 3: I think she's cool. I think she's smart. I like
Speaker 3: that she like shakes things up, So I would love
Speaker 3: to see her come back. I don't know if she
Speaker 3: and Andy are in a good place. And I think,
Speaker 3: like she.
Speaker 2: Was on his radio show last week, was it good?
Speaker 1: I believe she apologized to him for some of her tweets,
Speaker 1: so things seem to be okay.
Speaker 3: Is there anybody from like the way way back that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I liked Crystal. I would like Crystal to come back.
Speaker 3: I found myself missing her this season.
Speaker 2: I like her.
Speaker 3: Oh I know that's all take for you, but I
Speaker 3: really like Crystal. I always did. That one was like
Speaker 3: I was one of the few. But I like her,
Speaker 3: and I like some of her podcasts stuff and some
Speaker 3: of the stuff she's been saying on I think, like
Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis's show that gets on online.
Speaker 2: Is there anyone you think I the thing?
Speaker 1: And this is why I love reality stars, because one
Speaker 1: season I can like really be into you, and the
Speaker 1: other season be like I don't know, girl, and some
Speaker 1: of the like I don't like it. This season, I
Speaker 1: love Lie Saena.
Speaker 2: I think this is my opinion.
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna gave so much to that show, and I
Speaker 1: think I think she had a hard time with how
Speaker 1: things were happening to her and.
Speaker 2: She's missed. I love the friendship to her in Erica.
Speaker 1: I love when Erica had her crash out moment and
Speaker 1: Lisa Renna said, Okay, girl, it's time to go. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like something you would do to
Speaker 1: me or I would do to you, Like Okay, Megan,
Speaker 1: let's let's go for a walk.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like let me protect your
Speaker 2: little bit girlfriend. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that Lisa Rena called out the truth. I
Speaker 1: love how Lisa Brenda was like Denise were friends for
Speaker 1: thirty years. Not that I agreed with it, but I
Speaker 1: like that she called shit out for what it was.
Speaker 1: And the issue I'm having with Beverly Hills is it's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk behind each other's back. And I
Speaker 1: think the reason why you and I would always miss
Speaker 1: the old days of Ronie is because you can say
Speaker 1: what you want about those Roney girls, the houseboss in
Speaker 1: New York City, the old the ogs. Those girls called
Speaker 1: each other out to their faces and they made up
Speaker 1: in ten minutes. And that's that's really.
Speaker 3: What do I have to do to get them back
Speaker 3: on my television? What do I have? We are in
Speaker 3: a tough time politically, socioeconomically, the country is totally divided.
Speaker 3: One thing that can unite this country is bringing the
Speaker 3: old ogl So I'm serious, it would be a diplomatic
Speaker 3: thing for Gravel to do. What do I have to
Speaker 3: do this new cast? Fire them all. I am not
Speaker 3: doing this. See I will not watch it again. And
Speaker 3: it's very rare for me to pull away from a Housewives.
Speaker 3: Very excited by the way, for New Atlanta going to
Speaker 3: jump right back in because I eased off a little bit.
Speaker 2: Can my teaser really fast?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Please?
Speaker 2: I saw the premiere episode.
Speaker 3: Is it good? Oh no oh no.
Speaker 1: Oh oh Megan, Megan, I'm not gonna say much just yet.
Speaker 2: What I'm here to tell you Atlanta is back.
Speaker 3: Jank, God, thank god. I need this. By the way,
Speaker 3: I would watch Phaedri like like read the phone book
Speaker 3: to me, like she really can do know And I
Speaker 3: just took this picture recently of her with her sons,
Speaker 3: and I was like, mister President is so big. It
Speaker 3: was like a little man. I love Phaedra's one comment
Speaker 3: alone on the Real Housewives Girls Trip where she was
Speaker 3: like that woman's old enough to be your mother when
Speaker 3: she was talking about Deminda to Brandy. I walked about
Speaker 3: that for like a full day, like.
Speaker 2: About it. You're like, the girl, are you watching this?
Speaker 2: Oh bitch watching this? Fucking to me? To me, it's
Speaker 2: the best, it was the best Girls trip. But I digress.
Speaker 3: I'm just really thank god you said that, because I'm
Speaker 3: really I'm really looking forward to it, like genuinely really
Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Potomac is a little too much
Speaker 3: for me, and I think like the women are in
Speaker 3: my neighborhood a lot because they just like film around
Speaker 3: town and the Karen of it all is very dark.
Speaker 3: And I loved the last season. I know some people did,
Speaker 3: so Atlanta coming back after New York being just such
Speaker 3: a disaster and Beverly Hill's not being what I wanted.
Speaker 3: I have very high hopes for Atlanta and I'm full
Speaker 3: back in that's going to be the first episode is
Speaker 3: going to be like like appointment viewing for me. I
Speaker 3: thank god it's good. Seriously, thank god. If they fucked
Speaker 3: that up again, I would.
Speaker 1: Be so Megan, you will not be disappointed and text
Speaker 1: me the moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna watch it in real time, so text
Speaker 2: me at.
Speaker 1: Nine oh one. And it's not be your thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: I can't wait ten your thoughts on it, but will
Speaker 1: you will not be disappointed?
Speaker 3: And Porsche back Like all my favorites, I Fajor and
Speaker 3: Push were always my favorite, So I'm they just need
Speaker 3: to bring me back and then I'll be uh.
Speaker 1: You and I would be like Atlanta, have it so okay, Megan,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. You are a busy woman, a
Speaker 1: busy white, a busy mother, and a busy boss. So
Speaker 1: I don't take this for granted that you took time
Speaker 1: out to my podcast.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 3: Anytime, I love you and I love your gust. I
Speaker 3: listened to it as a fan all the time, and
Speaker 3: you get such amazing exclusives and I love the rundowns.
Speaker 3: I've been a little surprised at a few of the
Speaker 3: hot takes you've had lately. Yes, wise disagreed, not a
Speaker 3: little disagreement, but it's all good and all your success.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just love applauding you from afar. You're
Speaker 3: just really killing it and it's a hard industry to
Speaker 3: kill it in, and podcasting in particular is a hard industry.
Speaker 3: And you just like I said, everyone I know listens
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: A lot to me, my girl, my friends who follow
Speaker 3: up culture, they all do and like love it and
Speaker 3: they get so excited when I come on.
Speaker 1: So if that makes me happy and listen, I owe
Speaker 1: you a trip on the DC. I need to like
Speaker 1: find my way back out there so we can hang
Speaker 1: out and bark, crawl and just like have a good time.
Speaker 3: I would love to see you, and like I said,
Speaker 3: I just really like so happy to come on anytime
Speaker 3: you want. And I'm glad that your your fans are
Speaker 3: giving me a little bit of a chance.
Speaker 2: Which is they love you, Please, they love you. They
Speaker 2: love you, so let them know them, Megan.
Speaker 1: Where they can listen to your podcast, Citizen McCain, What
Speaker 1: day of the week it drops, and everything else.
Speaker 3: All places you can find Citizen McCain. And if you
Speaker 3: are if you have five o'clock East Coast time, you
Speaker 3: are bored, you can go on YouTube on the two
Speaker 3: Way Channel with me and I'm just literally doing like
Speaker 3: politics rundown for one hour and we have different guests
Speaker 3: on and it's so funny. My premiere episode, I had
Speaker 3: Perez Hilton and my friend Mary Catherine Hammon and people
Speaker 3: are like Perez Holten and I was like, don't sleep
Speaker 3: on Prezhilton.
Speaker 2: He's very That was a great fucking episode.
Speaker 3: Thank you. He's so smart.
Speaker 2: He loves you.
Speaker 3: You know, I mets when I was like, I'm not
Speaker 3: chitting you twenty one at the White House Correspondence dinner
Speaker 3: when he was there with Spencer and Heidi to really
Speaker 3: date myself like a million years ago. And he's been
Speaker 3: another one that's just so nice. Not embarrassed to be
Speaker 3: my friend. Thank you so much to the people who
Speaker 3: are not embarrassed to be my friend, not dragging me
Speaker 3: on social media. I always appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I love you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. But he's just a really smart seem like
Speaker 3: you like, just smart, cool, funny, like all the things.
Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, no, you're my baby.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much. Megan, I love you,
Speaker 1: Citizen McCain. Whatever, we get the podcast and I will
Speaker 1: see y'all on the next one.
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