1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: King of Reality TV and one of the most sought 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: after executive producers in reality television with over ten years 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey May drops 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: on today's episode of Reality with the King. She's back. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: She's my friend, she's my love. I adore her. She 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: is also the host of an amazing podcast that I 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: love listening to weekly called Citizen McCain Give it up 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: on My beautiful friend Inside and Out. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Meghan McCain. 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Carlos, I love you so much. 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me and I always love coming 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: on your show. And second of all, I just partner 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: with a company called two Way, so on Mondays and 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: Wednesdays at five o'clock live on YouTube or the two 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Way app if you want to talk about politics, That's 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: what I'm doing every night for an hour until tonight 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: do when we're recording, so if people want to join 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: that too, it's just on YouTube. It's easy to find. 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Oh that's good, A congratulations for you. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: Know. 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: Listen, I love your podcast. 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: I listen to me and Megan text all the time, 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: and I love how it's like the intersection between my 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: politics and pop culture in. 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 2: Most episodes, and you have great guests on. 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about your podcast is there's so 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: many people in the political landscape who respect you and 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: your voice hate me. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a. 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Girl, it's live. People hate me. It is what it is. 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: We hate you. You're like the kindest, smartest who would 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: hate you. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: God, thank you so much, Thank you so much, Thank 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate that. But the thing is, honey, 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: it's just listen. That's why always tell people, because they're like, 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: how is Megan. I'm like, Megan is a cool ass chick. 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: And what's been so funny is every time you come 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: on the podcast, I have so many people text me like. 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: I love Megan. I thought it. 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I try to tell Megan all the 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: time that people like you. 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Mag it like, don't believe social media. 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: I feel like your podcast gives me like some credibility 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: though in the pop culture space. Because a lot of 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: people that I like, love and respect, like my friend 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: Anthony shout out to Anthony, listen to your podcast, and 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, it's a big it's a big, enormous pop 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: culture podcast. So being invited on is obviously such a privilege. 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: And it's always nice to go into spaces where people 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: are not listening to like you know whatever, watching c 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: Span all day and that's very popular. Us is your work, 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: so it's like so fun for me and not be 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: able to actually talk about like you know, the Housewives 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: and stuff like that is really, you know, so fun. 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, and listen, you our reality 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: gourer as well, because you watch all the shows. So 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: let's get right into it because we get to take 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: our text messages now to the podcast audio space. And 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm super thrilled to recap the latest episode of the 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of belly Hills with you and. 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: You watched it right of course. 66 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: All right, Well, this hasn't been the easiest season for 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: me to watch. 68 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Talk about it, Megan, talk about it well, like I. 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: Always say to you and I when we you know, 70 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: text offline, like for me, it's like am I doing 71 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: appointment viewing? Like making sure Ben has my kids, and 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: I this is my time and I want to watch 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: in Salt Lake City. This season was really that for me, 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: Like I really couldn't look away like amazing I would 75 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: Southern Term is an exactly appointment viewing, but I don't 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: want to wait like more than a day before watching it. 77 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of Housewives franchises that I really 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: like and look New York and Beverly Hills, New York 79 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: was a whole different level of disappointment for me. But 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: Beverly Hills has been a little boring. There's some plot 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: lines that I like, am just not gravitating towards. And 82 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: I saw you speaking with our friend Zach Peter, who 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: was also just like the loveliest, kindest, most intelligent. I 84 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: really adore both of you, but he I saw you 85 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 3: saying you're a Slaton and I was like, poor loves 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: and I may disagree, they disagree. I think it's a 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: little boring this season. I don't know, but bos she 88 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: is just I mean killing it. Everything about her she's 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: doing right. I think that I like looking at her. 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: I think she's beautiful. I like the way she dresses, 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: I like the way she talks. I like that she's 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: a straight shooter taking some unconventional approaches and some controversial takes. 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: I wait, I really want to talk about this with you. 94 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: There's rumors that she and Garcel got into it in 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: the reunion because Garcel put Instagram post up that people 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: are reading maybe like a shot at Bow's. So I 97 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh my gosh, has there been because they're 98 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: clearly not connecting the way she's connecting with Dreid. But 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: she's my favorite this season, like I just and I 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: rarely like a first season housewife like this much. And 101 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: if they get rid of her next season, I really 102 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: like may Boycott on the street, Like I just like her, 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, And I think she'd be so fun 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: to hang out with, Like I think he's just cool 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: and smart and really direct, and I think she's mixing 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: it up and calling bullshit out that has really been 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: needed to be called out. 108 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Megan McCain, listen, we will we will agree. I'm sorry, 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: we will agree on I feel like I was get 110 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: them wrong. And again, I love Bo's and I love 111 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: her so much. 112 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: I think she's st John about that. 113 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the beautiful Saint John Darling. I love her 114 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: so much. She is she is is killing it because 115 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: she is so genuine and real and I don't think 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: she's picking sigh at all. I think she looks at 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: every situation and calls things as they see it, and 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: that's what makes her such a great addition. I agree 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: with you like she is by far my favorite new 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: housewife of the year. I think kudos to the casting 121 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: director who cast her. She's so fantastic. This season of 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Bisley Hills isn't the greatest. I definitely think a shakeup 123 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: needs to happen. This episode, I'm going to be very honest, 124 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: was boring. It wasn't great. Last week's episode was fine. 125 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: This one was awesome. 126 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: Maybe it was born because Bo's was not in it 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: as much, Like she really wasn't in it until like 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: kind of the fashion show with then, so I don't 129 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: know that was part of it. And I Erica Jane, 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: I just think is like again, I never want her 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: to go anywhere. I think she's wonderful. I think she's whatever. 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: But like, I'm not an interior design person in general, 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: like I tend to like, like you know, I just 134 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: am not interested in interior design and I don't care 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: about interior design and all this like emphasis on interior design. 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: I just would have loved to see more about where 137 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: she's at in her life, dating, work, preparing for her 138 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: Broadway show. You know whatever, I just don't care. And 139 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: it sounds rude, but I don't mean it that way. 140 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: No, You're being real. The thing is this, I want 141 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: to see Erica Jane date on the show too. I 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: want to see Erica and Dereit have like post divorce 143 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: fun single women and bedly Hill's dating some of these 144 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: like hot wealthy men or these hot young like actors 145 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: or models, and like. 146 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: Just be like super duper fun. 147 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: Because what the other Housewives shows do so well is 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: they follow the reality of where these women are in 149 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: their lives. I got a chance to meet Erica Jane 150 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: for the first time in December. She and I had 151 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: a love fest about you. By the way, Megan, She's the. 152 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: Nicest, you know. I was not able to go see 153 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: her on Broadway this time because it was like smack 154 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: dab inauguration. I had a friend who being confirmed into 155 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: the new administration, and then I was doing I was 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: relaunching this new show, and I just could not make 157 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: it to New York and I feel fucking horrible about it, 158 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: Like I feel I mean, she's been very gracious since 159 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: I has her lovely coworker Layah, who I think, you know, 160 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: because on the show sometimes and they're lovely. But I 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: feel terrible about it. I saw Zach go and I 162 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: was like, oh my God, like my even my husband 163 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: was like, I can't believe it. I was like, I 164 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: just have been so busy. It's been so hard. So 165 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: but I heard she was incredible and I love her. 166 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: She's a really really genuinely wonderful person and uh a 167 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: dear friend. And I just think she's so cool too, 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: like just so everything about her is cool, you know, 169 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not cool, so having like cool friends like 170 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: that mean, come on, she's like, you know, pretty cool. 171 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: Her song was in Anora, then a Cademy Award winning 172 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: Best Picture. For people who don't know Erica's song Drip, 173 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: which is like a great, pretty, filthy song. I don't 174 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: know that, yep, the it's the Mikey Madison the act 175 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: dances to it in one of the scenes, and so 176 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm just like thrilled for her for that, Like what 177 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: a pop culture like cool thing to have your song 178 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: an Academy Award winning movie. 179 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: No, She's dope, She's still She's dope. 180 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: So let's get right into this recent episode because you 181 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: and I have texts about this and I want to 182 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: get your thoughts. So obviously we know that Kyle and 183 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: Mauricio are separated, and in this episode they spoke about 184 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: a Papa Razzo capturing Mauricio midkiss to. 185 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: A young lady. 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: And then moments later, Kyle is at Morgan Wade's concert 187 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: and Guarcella Sutton believe that they're both trying to like 188 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: outdate each other in the sense of like listen. Points 189 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: were made Megan, and I know you have strong feelings 190 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: about this. Points were made in the sense of all 191 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: last season we saw Kyle and Morgan get tattoos. How 192 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: did you guys meet was she was like stalking me 193 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: and then a blush happened as Kyle was blushing. It 194 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: was in our face, And up until then we did 195 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: not see Mauricia with anybody. Mauricio kissing another woman at 196 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: an airport. I don't think it's the worst thing because 197 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: the woman was not on Bibley Hill's Housewives like Morgan was, 198 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: and also she wasn't on buying Beverly Hills, his two 199 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: season show on Netflix. 200 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Do you think two seasons? That show was horrible? And 201 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: I'll watch anything like I watched them. It's the third 202 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: season of Natalia Grace documentary. I will watch anything, and 203 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: that show was trash. Sorry, it was terrible. I wasted 204 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: my time trying to watch on show. Not true, lasted 205 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: two seasons. 206 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Okay, ladies jumping big days and days. I can see 207 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: my friends. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts 208 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: on this? Because you have a strong opinions about this 209 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: mortget Kyle Mauricio trifecta, and I want my audience to know, like, 210 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about what was displaying this episode? 211 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: So I want to say that I respect and understand 212 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: that you are a Kyle fan and a Kyle I 213 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: don't want to get you in trouble because I know 214 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: I think she's she's your friends right or friendly? 215 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we follow she follows me on Instagram. She's my 216 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: favorite housewife. But but the thing that Kyle loves about me, 217 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm honest and I'm not like dissing her as a person. 218 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm honest about what I'm seeing on the show. So 219 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: phil freestis struck. 220 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: Go right ahead. 221 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know her and I've never met her, 222 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: and I have no interactions with Kyle other than what 223 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: I'm seeing on my TV. And this is what I like, 224 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: just in general transparency in life. But I really like 225 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: it with my reality TV stars. And she's been on 226 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: that show. It's thirteen or fourteen years. I can't remember 227 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: how many sy Yeah, I mean, that's insane. It's great. 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: But watching her for like a really long, like my 229 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: entire adult life, and she is really losing me because 230 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: a I don't pretend to understand how difficult it is 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: to reconcile with your sexuality, especially publicly. The only thing 232 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: I can relate it to is my dear friend Klay 233 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: Aiken was sort of outed by people before he came 234 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: out of the closet. I've been with him on that 235 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: journey for a very long time. We were very old friends. 236 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: I don't downplay how difficult that journey is, and I 237 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: don't understand it because I'm heterosexual. But she, as you said, 238 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: last season, it looked to me like she was flirting 239 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: with a woman, not hanging out with her best friend. 240 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: When she was with Morgan and there are all these, 241 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, the music videos she did where it's very 242 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: sexual and they're like, you know, almost kissing and feeding 243 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: each other like fruit, and you know, it's just very 244 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: very sexual music video and it's about love. So I 245 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: had just assumed that they were together because you know, 246 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: X plus Y equal Z. And then this season the 247 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: erasure of Morgan, which I think arcel I saw in 248 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: the preview coming up, calls out that we're allowed to 249 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: talk about Mariicio, but we're not allowed to talk about Morgan. 250 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: I agree with it. I just don't understand what's going 251 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: on or what she's hiding or what she's scared of. Also, 252 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: this is just me because I'm like a pretty intense person. 253 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: If my husband is making out with some lady in 254 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: Greece or where the hell they were, I mean I 255 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: would be like, Carlos, I'm coming on your show and 256 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: we're talking about my divorce and where I'm going next. 257 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: I would just like light him on fire and I 258 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: would end it because I don't want to be humiliated publicly, 259 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: and I don't really understand what she's doing. I don't understand. 260 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: Do you really think you guys are going to get 261 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: back together? Because it doesn't seem like you guys are 262 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: getting back together, and she's just there's so much she's 263 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 3: holding back, clearly from sharing with the audience. And I 264 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 3: think in a normal situation that'll be find But the 265 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: problem is you're on one of the most popular reality 266 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: television shows on the planet and I feel like I'm 267 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: wasting my time with Kyle. I'm really and I love 268 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: both calling her out on it, like I've really enjoyed that. 269 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: As a Kyle Richard stand and fan. I agree with 270 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: everything you're saying. I love her, and my issue is this, 271 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: when you are the face force multiplier queen Bee of 272 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: the show, with that position comes great power and responsibility 273 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: and effort. And because Kyle has shown how she let's 274 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: let's have a real conversation. When Denise Richards allegedly made 275 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: up of Brandy Glamville and they allegedly had something going on, 276 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Richards and the rest of the girls did not 277 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: let up, on on on investigating. 278 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: I thought it was cruel. Then Crozworth thought that was 279 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: way too much. I felt like, you know again, I 280 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: felt like, if Denise had this relationship where sexual encounter, 281 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: she can be open about it. If she wants wants, 282 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: but I felt like they just bullied her about it, 283 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: and I thought that was unkind And no one's bullying 284 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: Kyle in this situation. And I think that was like 285 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: she was repeating rumors. Is that right? And it wasn't 286 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: you know, this is like she's bringing this woman around 287 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: all of us and taking pictures publicly and making music 288 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: videos and go into her concerts and like. 289 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, no, Well, that's the thing. 290 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: I think to your point though, if Brandy and Denise 291 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Richards had sex, Brandy, a non housewife right at the time, 292 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: revealed that and sort of exposed their relationship on camera, 293 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: and Denise Richards denied it and the girls kept pushing 294 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: her to be honest about it. 295 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: The difference between that is Denise Richards. 296 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Did not bring Brandy around the girls and flirted with her, made, 297 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like or assimilated a sort 298 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: of like sexual relationship in the music video. I think 299 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: what Kyle did this is my opinion. The mistake Kyle 300 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: made Number one was introducing Morgan Waye to us last year. 301 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: The flirty conversations during the tattoo moment the fucking music 302 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: video was a lot to handle you can't give me. 303 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: It's like having children, and Megan, you have two beautiful kids. 304 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: You can't give your child all of these toys totally 305 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: and then take it away from them for a year 306 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: without without an explanation. And the only explanation we had was, well, 307 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: Morgan doesn't want to be mentioned. 308 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: That's fine, but at least say listen. 309 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: I can't break her name up. But what I can 310 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: say is I am experiencing something I never thought before, 311 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: and I really like this woman deeper than just a 312 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: friend like Teddy Mellacamp. And let's see where things go, 313 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: because I owe that to the audience due to the 314 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: sheer fact that I brought this woman on the show. 315 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: And that's where Kyle is losing a lot of people. 316 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: And as much as I try to find ways to 317 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: be like, okay, let me see her point of view, 318 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm just being very honest here. It's very hard for 319 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: me to defend her and the worth of Kyle Richards 320 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: to her sister Kim in Amsterdam, when when Kim brought 321 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: up the husband's Lisa Rena, Kyle said to Kim, you 322 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: want me to defend you, but this is indefensible. That's 323 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: how I felt about my girl Kyle's indefensible. 324 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think that, you know, because the 325 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: Morgan Wade of it all. I am a huge country 326 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: music fan. I'm from Arizona. Shooter Jettings played at my 327 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: wedding Grammy Award winning that's like hungable brag, but like 328 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: he has a lot of free cred in the country world. 329 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: I love country music. I'd never heard of Morgan Wade 330 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: before the show. I still have not heard of her 331 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: music in any of the stations. And she is not 332 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 3: a country star. I'm just saying it. And she's certainly 333 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: not an alternative country star. And so my take is 334 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: like on Morgan Wade's part, and I don't know her, 335 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: just my opinion, you guys, But like she was clearly 336 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: using Kyle for cloud and then like went in and 337 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I actually like the heats too much. 338 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: I don't want to be a now And I'm like, 339 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: you're why do you not want to be associated with 340 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: the housewives anymore? It's a privilege to be a part 341 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: of like this incredible, iconic show. So like, I think 342 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: both of them are confused and mixed up on how 343 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: they do or do not want to utilize this enormous platform. 344 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: But you know, she's not whatever, like you know, Morgan Wallen, 345 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: Like she's not like some giant star filling up arenas. 346 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 3: And I just don't understand, Like to me, there's some 347 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: craven aspects of her role in this too. Chow. 348 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the 349 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. 350 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: I think last year, slash last season, Morgan wanted the 351 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: limelight right Well, you and I both know, Megan, the 352 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: moment you step on Housewives is a different thing that 353 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: you experienced and could it have been a lot, sure, 354 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: But I definitely think Kyle dangled the carrot didn't realize 355 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: how big of a deal was going to be. I think, 356 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: and Megan, you and I have spoken about this Handley. 357 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Fame is very difficult for a lot of people because 358 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: you kind of want to do your thing and then 359 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: you don't realize the multitude of like what consert being famous. 360 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't think Morgan mentally was able to handle the 361 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: Tsunamia thing she was experiencing. And then and like you said, 362 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: no shade to Morgan, no one knew about her so 363 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: to come from anonymity to being infamous within twenty four 364 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: hours will take a toning of mental health. And I 365 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: understand that. The problem, though, is Kyle is the face 366 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: of this show. So if Morgan doesn't want to tell 367 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: us that, fine, but Kyle, you you have you have 368 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: a duty to let us know something. And not only 369 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: aren't you letting us know that about Morgan, we still 370 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: don't fucking know what happened between you and Mauricio. 371 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: And I think, like, you guys were together for twenty years. 372 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: We saw you do. 373 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: Splits around him, y'all make out, He grabs your body 374 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: parts underneath the table, and these are things we saw 375 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: him on the show. You guys had a sexual, like 376 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: sexy marriage. You guys look great together, and then within 377 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: a season you guys are separated. There were rumors that 378 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: he was cheating for years. She always denied it, but 379 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: now it's sort of like, well, could that be the reason. 380 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: And I think Mauricio, in my opinion, I think Mauricio 381 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: saw the Morgan Way scandal and was like, why the 382 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: fuck am I'm not out here living my best life. 383 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Mauricio wants Kyle anymore. I think I'm 384 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna say this, mom Meg, We'll love me. 385 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: Get your thoughts. 386 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: When a man reaches his peak, when he's older, gets 387 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: more successful, makes a shitload of money, he wants other 388 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: things sometimes not ah Man some and I think Mauricio 389 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: is in his bad bitch era and he wants the 390 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: young hot girl, especially not that his daughters are pretty 391 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: much out of the house. Yeah. 392 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: And I also, to quote another housewife, Bethany Frankel, you 393 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: can't play smart and stupid at the same time. They're 394 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: trying to do both. I think they're both trying to 395 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: be like, you know, I want to have fame, I 396 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: want to be on this show, I want whatever. But 397 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: I'll like our relationships so confusing, and i can't figure 398 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 3: like it's not confusing. You guys cheated on each other 399 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: and you're separated, and you should get divorced for both 400 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: of your just like you know, like just your self worth. 401 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: I would just never let a man treat me this way. 402 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: And I would also just because I respect my husband, 403 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: I would never treat them that way. Like if I 404 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: was like out making music videos with women and having 405 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: you know, decided that I had more been in a 406 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: relationship with a woman, and I wanted to be, I 407 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: would not do I would not treat him that way. 408 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: We would deal with it privately, and then if I 409 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: were in a reality show, I would talk about it after. 410 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: And so I think the way they're all handling it 411 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: is despicable. But you're saying that, you know, he has 412 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: so much money, He's made so much money. I mean, 413 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: Kathy last night was saying that he doesn't have money. 414 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: What I didn't understand, Like, I'm like, is the agency 415 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: not as successful as I thought? Like that was the 416 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 3: shade that really caught me off guard. I was like, 417 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: does Mauricio not have money? Are they pretending to have money? 418 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Like, I don't understand, I think, I think, I think. 419 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: What I think what Kathy was intimating was Mauricia does 420 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: not have Rick Hilt him money? 421 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: Who does? I mean? 422 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 5: Right? 423 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: Well, listen, right, that's that's the gay I think more. Listen, 424 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: the agency is very successful? Is it Rick Hilton sccessful? No, 425 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: but it's successful. 426 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: But but okay, here's something I heard though, is that 427 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: the agencies a franchise. Because I was under the impression 428 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: that he owned all of it, but apparently he does not. 429 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: He just owns like some of the and again it's 430 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: just something I read online, but like, and I know 431 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: they're absurdly wealthy by anybody's standard, you know, any regular 432 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: American standard. But I don't know. Just I have questions 433 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: now since Kathy said that, I don't know. I just 434 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: have questions. I always have questions about people who display 435 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: their wealth like that, you know, because you know, I 436 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: know really really rich people, and they're quiet and demure, 437 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: very mindful, very demure. They're not going around showing it off. 438 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: You know, they're not in their cyber trucks. They're like 439 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: quiet about it, at least the ones. 440 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: I know. 441 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: Maybe that's like a DC thing. I don't know. 442 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: No, it's it's what we call old money, Meggan. 443 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: You know people with old money, honey, who are like 444 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: very quiet about it. 445 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: Bots and bots. 446 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's like that, honey, because you know, you 447 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: look at someone like Nicky Hilton's husband, James Rothschild. 448 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: You don't see James Rothschaw even a cyber truck and. 449 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: Flying totally totally. 450 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: But no, So, Megan, let's talk about the Kathy shade. 451 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: So you may know this, but I'll remind you remember 452 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: Mauricio used to work for the Hilton Brand. 453 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: Yes, they had like a breakup, right, Yes. 454 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: A bad one, a very bad one. 455 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: Because I'm like clients, right, is that right? Like? 456 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: So allegedly. 457 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: When Maurice, Okay, Mauricio and Kyle when they were young parents, 458 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: they both got their real estate license at around the 459 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: same time, right, so they studied for it obviously, which listen, 460 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: one thing I love about you, Megan, You're like, I'm 461 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: a NEPO baby and I don't give a fuck. 462 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: I still work right like on your shit. Right. 463 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: So obviously Rick hill Ten is married to Kyle's sister, Kathy. 464 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: So my brother in law owns this agency. Me and 465 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: my husband got a real estate license, what's next? So 466 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: he he. 467 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: Worked for dynamic. By the way, it would be like, yes, 468 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: it's an interesting dynamic. It'd be like if one of 469 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: someone I was related to married someone who decided to 470 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: get into political commentary, Like that's an interesting dynamic for 471 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: their family. I'm just saying, like it's you know, I'm 472 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: just saying I can see what Kathy and Rick maybe 473 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: had issues with it. I don't love it. Sorry, I 474 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: think about that. This thing is kind of weird, Like 475 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 3: to choose the industry that your in law is an 476 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: icon and comes from an iconic family from sorry you 477 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: look so. 478 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Shocked, Well you know that's my my friends because you listen, 479 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: because you're not. Come from two different worlds, and the 480 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: beauty of our friendship is the fact that we're both 481 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: like magmatist, like, what do you think about this? I'm like, 482 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: girl that that she said. Okay, I thought that too. 483 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: By the way, I like assume so I'm dagging because 484 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I never thought of it that way. It's 485 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: one thing if my sister met a real estate agent exactly, 486 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: but they both got their license doing their marriage, while 487 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: my sister's husband owns the fucking Hilton courtesy of like 488 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: family generational wealth and handoff so. 489 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: Famous hotel chain on the planet, I mean beyond. 490 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: So there you have it. So then Megan. 491 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Rick decided to start his own agency while he was 492 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: working at the Hilton, and this is alleged, alleged. Allegedly, 493 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: Rick Hilton said obviously you can go, but don't take 494 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: this particular person, and allegedly Marizio took that person and 495 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: that's how this whole beef started and they didn't speak 496 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: for years. 497 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: What I also think is interesting is that Paris Fulton 498 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: has attacked Mauricio publicly, and I just again, I'm really 499 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 3: not trying to throw things around, but this is like 500 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: important in the context of this. So, of all things, 501 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: my mother is friends with Paris Hilton because they've worked 502 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: on a bunch of sex trafficking bills together, checked their receipts. 503 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: Paris Hilton and my mom call each other on Instagram 504 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: and sometimes she comments on my mom's Instagram, which never 505 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: doesn't entertain me. 506 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sadey mckainn you legend exactly. 507 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: She has the nicest things to say about Paris Hilton. Classy, smart, kind, respectful, 508 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: everyone gets selfie with everybody. Paris Hilton also came to 509 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: DC like a few month ago, a few months ago 510 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: to also talk about this bill. Because she was sexually 511 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: abused when she was at a boarding school. Everyone I 512 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: know interact with her, I mean, could not say the 513 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: nicest things. I don't know these people, but I think 514 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: the Hilmes are pretty classy. So for Paris to come 515 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: out and say things about Mauricio, I can only imagine 516 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: they were pushed pretty far. That's all I have to say. 517 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: Well, now it was bad. 518 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: It was bad, and the fact that she publicly did 519 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: this on social media in defense of her father because 520 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: of what I just said. The the allegations that I 521 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: made about what happened between Rick and Mauricio is all alleged, 522 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: but Mauricio said those things on his Netflix show, and 523 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: that's when that's when Paris felt the need to defend 524 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: her father. And obviously we all can understand defending her 525 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: family member. So the shade that Kathy threw to Mauricio 526 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, she probably doesn't feel 527 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: the need to defend her brother in law who made 528 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: this sort of decision. And she also just shaded the 529 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: fact that like move on, and and and she and 530 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: she started to do you cash this? She started to 531 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: talk about the cheating, and Kyle stopped her. 532 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: Okay, why won't they move on? What are they what 533 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: are they both still gaining by this? Is it just 534 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: like the cat and mouse intrigue of it, which I 535 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: think everyone's collectively sick of. But I just I don't understand. 536 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't understand when either of them want to get divorced. 537 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: Is a money thing? 538 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: I think some money thing. I think this. 539 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this was ever public, so I 540 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: don't know rain drops, tell me if it was. I 541 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a pre nup sign because when 542 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: they got married, they were both not wealthy. Right, there's 543 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: a lot of money at stake in this, in this divorce, 544 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: and I think when it comes to and I would 545 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: love to get your thoughts on this, Megan, you obviously know. 546 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: A lot of wealthy people owed money. I know some. 547 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't know a lot, but okay, well no more. 548 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: Than me, all right, So that's a lot to well 549 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: question for you when it comes to the image that 550 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: you have to portray to the world. 551 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: Is this normal and high society that we have to 552 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: protect the image of the family, and let's go about 553 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: this divorce quietly. 554 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: That's definitely a thing. I actually know a couple that 555 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: thought they're like separate. They're separated, but they're not officially 556 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: like they don't think they file paperwork, but they're like old. 557 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: They're like, I mean, I think he's in the seventies 558 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: and sixties, like they're like, it's sort of like a 559 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: understood And the only reason why I even found out 560 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: was because he had a girlfriend or like a woman 561 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: that he was bringing around that was not his wife. 562 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, uh, does someone want to tell 563 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: me what's happening here? So, like, I don't know. I 564 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: think if you're in a reality TV show and you're 565 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: only you know, I think they're both What are they 566 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: like sixty? Like they're they're not that old? Like how 567 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: old are they? Don't know how old they are? 568 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: Like old Kyle? 569 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: How old are they? 570 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: They're not their sixties, Meggied? 571 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: How old are they? Late fifties? I'm not. I literally 572 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: thought she was like sixty. Sorry, how old is she? 573 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: Oh, Kyle? 574 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, I'm looking this up. 575 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: Look me. 576 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: Also, I'm sorry. I wasn't that far off. So sorry, 577 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: I got more off. I don't mean that at large, 578 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: Like if I'm fifty six, I'm not. You're not seventy, 579 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: you're not, Like, but I don't know they have kids, 580 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: they have whatever, KYLERI just gonna unt my I asked down, 581 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: trying and burn my house down after this conversation. 582 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: Anything wrong. 583 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: I don't like her this season on the show. 584 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't. 585 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just don't. And I'm not obsessed with 586 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: Sutton even though you are. 587 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Sun. 588 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I tell me why you like her? Still? 589 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: Okay? No, no, no, So I'm gonna be so the 590 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: thing that you know about me, You and. 591 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: I see things and we're like, oh, they're playing up 592 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: for the camera. 593 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: They're being fake. This isn't real on bored right. 594 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: Last week's episode, when she pretty much told to read 595 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: my wile is bigger, I have just. 596 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: Disgusting to subd Sorry. I really hated so, I really, really, 597 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: really really had our strong reaction to that, because a 598 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: the idea that someone's self worth is based off how 599 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: much money they have is just bullshit. Some of the 600 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: grossest people I know are some Diesel money people are 601 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: people I've met, and some of the most incredible people 602 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: I know. You know, Like, so you're saying, like every 603 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: teacher who makes you know whatever, teachers are paid almost nothing, 604 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: you know whatever, fifty grand a year, forty grand year, 605 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: sixty grand year, whatever. Teachers you know, they don't make anything. 606 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: They should be paid so much more. You're saying they 607 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: don't have worth. I just thought it was just repulsive 608 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: thing to say, And I didn't understand where she's like, 609 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: my wallet's bigger, my wallet's bigger. It's like, you know, 610 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: you're not Jeff Bezos Number one and number two is 611 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 3: this is how you value your friends. I wondered how 612 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: Garcel felt about that, because she's a self made woman. 613 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: She didn't get her money from her husband I'm aware of. 614 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: I mean, she seems to work very hard on the show, 615 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: producing movies and acting and doing all these things. And 616 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: I just felt like, if you're Garceler, you like, oh 617 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: do you judge me? Because I don't have you know, whatever, 618 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos money. I just really, I really really really 619 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: thought it was disgusting, and it's why I don't like Sudden. 620 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: I just think it's just trashy and mean. Sorry I know. 621 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, let's have real conversation. So 622 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: first of all, this is my favorite episode so far. Okay, anyway, 623 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: I love it because I love it when because you 624 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: and I are just like, we're really honest and we 625 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: don't say shit for like, oh let me just sound 626 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: good for them. No, we say the real ship, which 627 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: is why you're not both like Zach Peters and a 628 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: bunch of other friends. 629 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 630 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like we say how we feel. 631 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: So look all this straight shooters. 632 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the McDonald we love, like we love straight Shooters. 633 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: This is what I'll say. I have called out Ston 634 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: ever since she got on the show in terms of 635 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: I want to see the real soon and I always 636 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: felt that sutt and play to the audience. I was 637 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: the first one to mention I don't believe in the 638 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: gar Cel and Son friendship. I think it's a friendship 639 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: of convenience, because I said two years ago, I just 640 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: don't believe in my heart that if Garseell was not 641 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: on the show, that's a Sudden Strap would be friends 642 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: with her. 643 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: I I never believed it, and unfortunately I. 644 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: Only wants to be friends with like pajillionaires. 645 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: Is that yeah? 646 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: I think I think this and I'm connected to what 647 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: she said in last week's episode. I Sutten gives me 648 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: a social climber and that's nothing negative, like it is 649 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: what it is. Sudden gives me old school Southern woman 650 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: who who comes from money and there's a certain circle 651 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: of people she wants to be around, which is why 652 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: she got into it. Willis sa Rena about the Elton 653 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: John tickets the foundation, like I bought the table, you 654 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: need to pay me back, like she which is fine, 655 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: Which is fine. Something then became like to me safe 656 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: for Twitter, and when I made that comment about the 657 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: alliance of her and guard Sells friendship. Oh Megan, you 658 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: thought I said something negative about their character, And then 659 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: both Sudden and Guard subm mad to comment about my statement. 660 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: I then ran into Sutton at a restaurant. 661 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: I introduced myself to her, he and Megan. She was lovely. 662 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: I explained myself to her, and she and I had 663 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: a great conversation. I ran to Garsell, I explained myself 664 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: to her. She and I had a great conversation. I 665 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: just said, like this is I'm recapping the fucking episode. 666 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. I don't mean to like diss 667 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: you guys as people. That's not my attention. Long story short, 668 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: but Sun said to Durret to me is the real Sutton? 669 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: And when I said, I'm a slut and finally, what 670 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: I meant by that is finally you're showing who you are. 671 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: Not granted, it's not a statement that it's popular, but 672 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate anybody who's brave enough to be themselves on 673 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: camera and who can face the backlash from a statement 674 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: like that, because I do agree with you. 675 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: I even said, like, well, Sutton, this is no shade. 676 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, no shade, girl, is 677 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: not like you were the one clocking in at work 678 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: sixty hours a week. Like you know, your money's capped 679 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: at three point fifty which is a lot of money, 680 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: three hundred fifty thousand a month. But some people can 681 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: argue something that's your alimony. Again, there's tons of arguments. 682 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: So when it comes to something, I want her to 683 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: be her son because I don't watch the show to 684 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: see people play it safe. I don't watch the show 685 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: to see people play up to the cameras. And I 686 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: agree with you about Garcel. I set my podcast. I 687 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: love Garcel. I need for Garsel and they just take 688 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: their reunion last Friday, Megan, I need Garcel to call 689 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: out what you and I both text about. What all 690 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: of my friends text me about. What's the microaggressions of 691 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: Sutton's mother riba. 692 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: Time watching that, Joe Megan text me, I. 693 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: Did if I'm able to share? Megan. Megan text me 694 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: and was like, how do you feel about that scene? 695 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: And I said I'm uncomfortable and she said, okay, thank 696 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: god I feel the same way. And I said, no, 697 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable. Garcel called out Derrie. She has to 698 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: call out Reba like it is what it is, and 699 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: you're right. If Dree would have made that statement about 700 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: her wallet being bigger than bows, oh my gosh, it 701 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: would have been World War three to me on that tape, 702 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm at that table with Garcel. And when Garcel and 703 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: Deury had that scene in this episode where she said, yeah, 704 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't like what Sun said. 705 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: Well, Garcel, honey, you just say it then. 706 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, called her out the. 707 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: Way you called out Bowls defending Derie, call out Son 708 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: and say Son, I love you. 709 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: That's fucking gross. 710 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: I think part of the thing, too, is when you 711 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: have friends, so genuine friends, people screw up. I mean, 712 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: I ask you advice on lots of different things that 713 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 3: are not just reality show driven, because sometimes there's one 714 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 3: other opinion from someone I trust and you know, think 715 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: is smart. And I think part of the problem with 716 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 3: Garcela is when you're so a tunnel vision about someone 717 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 3: you love or you know, I assume she loves her 718 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 3: if they're that close to friends. You also have to 719 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 3: see the forest for the trees. It's important to keep 720 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 3: clarity and transparency and honesty. And I think Garcel's really 721 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: hurt herself this season. I like Garcel. I think she's 722 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: just like one of the most beautiful women that's ever 723 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: been on Housewives. Like I was even thinking that last night, 724 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: Like she's just her face and her God Like, she's 725 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: just a gorgeous woman. I mean, like stunning and. 726 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: Parts of the meggot she's she's im Parson Garcel's beauty is 727 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: late though she's in Parson's everything. 728 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: She's really like very striking. Like I don't know if 729 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I don't hope that doesn't sound weird. 730 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 3: I just you know, she's obviously you're not on that 731 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: show if you're not, you know, beautiful. But I I 732 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: think that she's hurt herself a little bit too. I'm 733 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 3: like a fan of hers. I like her work. I 734 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: like what she's doing. I like that she's sort of 735 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 3: self made. I want more from her in general dating, 736 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 3: you know, if she's going to be shooting her show, 737 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 3: is there any like drama on some of these movies 738 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 3: she's making. I don't like her just being set in sidekick. 739 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: I think she can give us a lot more than that. 740 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: I don't think she should be off the show. I 741 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: know some people are saying that because she's had not 742 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 3: a great season. I don't agree with that, but I 743 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: think there's got to be a real come to Jesus 744 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: with producers and this cast for next season, because this 745 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 3: is unsustainable for me and Sutt And again, like I 746 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 3: just I feel bad for her mom because her mom's 747 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 3: like eighty two or something, and you know, eighty two 748 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: year old Southern people, there's a stereotype about them. But 749 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: that moment was awful and made me extremely uncomfortable. I mean, 750 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 3: not to get like too heavy with you. My sister 751 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: Bridget is not white, she's adopted, and it reminded me 752 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: somewhat of like the way certain people would talk to 753 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 3: me versus where they would talk to her in different 754 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: kind of social situations. So like, you know, I may 755 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 3: be like a white nappo baby Republican, but I'm well 756 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: aware of what a microaggression is and what racial bias 757 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 3: looks like. And I really thought it was very disrespectful 758 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 3: to Garcel. And I just you see the way she 759 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 3: was treating Kyle versus the way she was treating Garcel, 760 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: and it was rough. It's dark and it's rough and 761 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: it's sad. But I agree, if I were Garcel, I 762 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: would have said something yeah, no, and I want the 763 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 3: world to know. 764 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: Not that you need this, but I'm just being honest here. 765 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: You text me the moment it happened, and I didn't 766 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 1: watch the episode yet. You said, did you watched this scene? 767 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: I said, I'm actually gonna watch it tonight, and you said, well, 768 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: text me after you watch it. And then I texted 769 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: me and said, oh, honey, what the fucking you said? Okay, 770 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not the only one, right, I'm like, oh, numb, honey. 771 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: As a black person, I was so uncomfortable. And I 772 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: felt bad for Garcel too, because she kept trying hard, 773 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: and Reebu just didn't want to give her that. And 774 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: then I think I'll tell you this, Megan. She regifted 775 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: the scar back to Garcil. 776 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, how do you know that that 777 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 3: wasn't on the. 778 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: Shop and on an after show. 779 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh that's so bad. I didn't got the scarf thing either. 780 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: If somebody gave me a beautiful scarf, like you know, 781 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: presented that way, I would be so great, like excited. 782 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: I didn't that even that I didn't understand. It's like 783 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 3: they're giving you this beautiful gift as a house sermon gift, 784 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 3: and again, like I don't like stereotype people. But I 785 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 3: also think when people show you their behavior and show 786 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 3: you who they are, you should believe them. And I 787 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 3: don't actually need any more but just for like what 788 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 3: it's worth. Like and again, I'm not trying to like 789 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: punch down to an elder lady because like whatever, I 790 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: don't need any more read the storylines. I don't need 791 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 3: to hear about it. I don't need a relationship with 792 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 3: her mom. I don't honestly give a shit. I also think, 793 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 3: like again, like in the age range they're in, I'm forty, 794 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 3: like get over your mom and dad issues, Like you 795 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: you got to, like at a certain point, you've got 796 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 3: to take ownership of like who you are and how 797 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: you behave. And I'm I'm lucky I don't have those 798 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: kind of issues because I had great parents. But I 799 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 3: just feel like therapy is good for everybody. And it 800 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 3: was it's like very clear that needs some like very 801 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: serious therapy. And I don't want to be on this 802 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: journey with her. I don't care her. I don't I've 803 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: had enough. And even last night at the ending of 804 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 3: her fashion shows, you was like my mom, I couldn't 805 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 3: be here in my mind, and I was like, do 806 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 3: you I don't care. I don't care about this plot 807 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 3: with your no vine, but I just don't care. I've 808 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: had so much of enough of Sutton in her mom Like, 809 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 3: I just it's weird. It's like a weird plot line. 810 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 3: And again, is all of this just to not do dating? 811 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 3: Is this so she like doesn't have a dating plot line? 812 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: Megan, you know, your girl after my own heart. So 813 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 2: I want to say. 814 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: You've damaged yourself because you're still a fan of hers. 815 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: So do you think, Well, that's the thing. 816 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of somebody who's real, Like, for example, 817 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who okay. 818 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect example. 819 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: I loved you the moment I saw you on the 820 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: View as a fan. 821 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: Right, Everybody was like, why do you like her? 822 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I said that Megan McCain, Honey, she sits 823 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: on that panel and she fights for her opinion to 824 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: be heard. And even if I don't agree with what 825 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: she's saying, I appreciate somebody with a different view. And 826 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: then when I got a chance to meet you, and 827 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, she's actually nicer in person. 828 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: And then we started to like talk and hang, I'm like, oh, 829 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: my god, She's everything. So for me, I like anybody 830 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: who's like my opinion may not be the most popular, 831 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: but this is who I am and that's why I 832 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: love you so much. That's why I liked something last 833 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: week's episode. But the thing that needs to happen with 834 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: these reality stars, and this is the question you're asking 835 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: me too. 836 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: Are we getting the rib A. 837 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: Storyline because we're not getting dating. I will say this 838 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm just being honest. I think the 839 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: reason why our girl, Erica Jane is not going to 840 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: give the dating storyline is because the moment you show 841 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: your man on TV, and in this case, when Kyle 842 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: showcased Morgan her friend, all bests are off in terms 843 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: of you having any more secret dates. So it's the 844 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: reason why we're not seeing Kim Kardashian date reality stars 845 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: who are single, Sutton Garsel, Erica Jane. Let's be clear, 846 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: they're dating somebody. 847 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 3: Sure they have to be great. 848 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: Those three beautiful women. You mean to tell me there's 849 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 2: not a. 850 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: My knowledge, and again, I don't think I'm exposing anything. 851 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 3: I don't think Erica has a boyfriend. 852 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: Not a boyfriend dating. Okay, I feel like I see 853 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell youho. 854 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: I see Erica Jane with so Erica Jane, you're listening 855 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: because she loves you, Megan, and she said, Carlo, thank 856 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: you so much. You obviously speak holly of me. I'm like, 857 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: I love you, Erica. I love Erica. When it was 858 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: unpowerulus to love Erica, I said, when Erica said, what 859 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: the fuck about me? 860 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 2: Fuck that shit? Like what about me? 861 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, bitch, I agree with you, Okay, I digress. 862 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: I see Erica Jane, our friend with a hot young 863 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 1: man who's just like you know, listen, listen. 864 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: Is he Tom Geraldy wealthy? 865 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: Maybe not, but he's somebody that has enough money to 866 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: pick up the check. He's somebody who has enough money 867 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: to send a black car to pick her up for 868 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: a date, you know what I mean. They fly commercial, 869 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: but he's he's buying first class tickets. 870 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 2: That's who I see her with. 871 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: And and he's super hot and he's he's like just 872 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: into her. 873 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't see eric with the older man ever again. 874 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 3: So I can see it both ways. I could see 875 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 3: her with like a retired football player, like like for it, 876 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 3: like some I don't cafolla sports. I don't know, I 877 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 3: like very little blesswords with like or basketball there or whatever, 878 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 3: like an ex athlete, but like a known person, like 879 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 3: someone who like you would know the name of and 880 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: then or And I feel like I have told her this, 881 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 3: and if I haven't, then Eric, if you're listening, I 882 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 3: will say it again. I can actually see her with 883 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 3: a real DC power person like I could see like 884 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying like Democrat or Republican. I'm just saying, like, 885 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, someone who had held a cabinet position in 886 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 3: the Obama White House, a high level maybe not like 887 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: you know, complete at their peak right now, but someone 888 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 3: who's like extremely well respected, maybe still has a secret 889 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 3: service detail because they have like you know, I actually 890 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 3: can see her playing a great girlfriend role to someone 891 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 3: like that because she is so presentable in every social situation, 892 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 3: and she's extremely extremely well versed on politics. She is 893 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 3: very very smartness. We saw it, she talked about it 894 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 3: in like a few see and ago, like she was 895 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 3: talking with remember she was talking with like someone at 896 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: the dinner table when they were in France. 897 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 898 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: I feel like she could really be and I, you know, 899 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 3: like if I see someone but that's who I personally 900 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: see her with I could see her with like a 901 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: real power player. 902 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, Meghan, sorry, you know, no, no, no, that's my husband. 903 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 3: And I are always thinking about it. But she's she's 904 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 3: a Democrat, so it's a little trick here for me 905 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 3: also as much or an independent. I don't remember which 906 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 3: one she is. 907 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: Actually, I missed the days where I forgot that. There's 908 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 2: a couple. 909 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: I can't think of them right now, but I think 910 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: it's so dope when a Republican and a Democrat like 911 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: in a relationship. 912 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: My favorite, it's my favorite. I like Carville and his wife. 913 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 3: It's my favorite. James Carville, the famous UH statist, don't work? 914 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 3: Get him and his wife. He was a because he 915 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 3: was advising Clinton and she was advising Bush. 916 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 2: So good. 917 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: I would love to sit at a table with a 918 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: couple where once a Republican wants a Democrat and they 919 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: just have a different point of view. But it's respectful 920 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: and it's interesting. I think it keeps a relationship sexy. 921 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: So I can see Erica with somebody who's like a 922 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: hot young Republican. 923 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 2: I would love to talk about that. 924 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: But what was that Erica Jane Kennedy? 925 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 3: I could just see her with a power player, like 926 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 3: with a ken, like with a like you know, like 927 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 3: someone with a notable last name, you know, like I 928 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 3: could definitely see it, Like I don't know. I just 929 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 3: think maybe I know her in a different context too. 930 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 2: Friends. 931 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's just very sophisticated, very smart, like like 932 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 3: obviously there's this like it's expensive to be me showgirl 933 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 3: aspect of her. But I don't know, I could just 934 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: see her with like a real I think she needs 935 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 3: to be with one at her level power wise, though 936 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 3: I don't think she can punch down. I think she 937 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 3: needs someone who is going to meet her at her like, 938 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, where she What is it that there's a 939 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 3: I saw a thing. It's like stand in your light, 940 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 3: Like I want her to stand in her light and 941 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 3: have her partner stand in their light too. Does that 942 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 3: make sense? 943 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: It makes total sense. It makes total sense. So last 944 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: question for you, my sweet love. 945 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 3: Last question. 946 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: I know I talk to all day, like all day, 947 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: Last question, babe. We all believe that there needs to 948 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,240 Speaker 1: be a shake up on the Real Housewives of Belly Hills. 949 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: So Megan McCain, you political pundit, you, you pop. 950 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 4: Culture enthusiast, you reality watch her You who do you 951 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 4: think should return to the next season of the Real 952 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 4: Housewives of Belly Hills. 953 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, anybody from the past? I mean, look, 954 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm a Lisa Rena stand forever. I love Lisa Rena. 955 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 3: I think she's cool. I think she's smart. I like 956 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: that she like shakes things up, So I would love 957 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 3: to see her come back. I don't know if she 958 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 3: and Andy are in a good place. And I think, 959 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 3: like she. 960 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 2: Was on his radio show last week, was it good? 961 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: I believe she apologized to him for some of her tweets, 962 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: so things seem to be okay. 963 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 3: Is there anybody from like the way way back that? 964 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: Oh? 965 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 3: I liked Crystal. I would like Crystal to come back. 966 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 3: I found myself missing her this season. 967 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: I like her. 968 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 3: Oh I know that's all take for you, but I 969 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 3: really like Crystal. I always did. That one was like 970 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,919 Speaker 3: I was one of the few. But I like her, 971 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 3: and I like some of her podcasts stuff and some 972 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 3: of the stuff she's been saying on I think, like 973 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,720 Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis's show that gets on online. 974 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 2: Is there anyone you think I the thing? 975 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 1: And this is why I love reality stars, because one 976 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: season I can like really be into you, and the 977 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: other season be like I don't know, girl, and some 978 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: of the like I don't like it. This season, I 979 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: love Lie Saena. 980 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 2: I think this is my opinion. 981 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: Lisa Renna gave so much to that show, and I 982 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: think I think she had a hard time with how 983 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: things were happening to her and. 984 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 2: She's missed. I love the friendship to her in Erica. 985 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: I love when Erica had her crash out moment and 986 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: Lisa Renna said, Okay, girl, it's time to go. You 987 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like something you would do to 988 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: me or I would do to you, Like Okay, Megan, 989 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: let's let's go for a walk. 990 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like let me protect your 991 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 2: little bit girlfriend. I love that. 992 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: I love that Lisa Rena called out the truth. I 993 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: love how Lisa Brenda was like Denise were friends for 994 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: thirty years. Not that I agreed with it, but I 995 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: like that she called shit out for what it was. 996 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: And the issue I'm having with Beverly Hills is it's 997 00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: a lot of talk behind each other's back. And I 998 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: think the reason why you and I would always miss 999 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: the old days of Ronie is because you can say 1000 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: what you want about those Roney girls, the houseboss in 1001 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: New York City, the old the ogs. Those girls called 1002 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: each other out to their faces and they made up 1003 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: in ten minutes. And that's that's really. 1004 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 3: What do I have to do to get them back 1005 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 3: on my television? What do I have? We are in 1006 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 3: a tough time politically, socioeconomically, the country is totally divided. 1007 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 3: One thing that can unite this country is bringing the 1008 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 3: old ogl So I'm serious, it would be a diplomatic 1009 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 3: thing for Gravel to do. What do I have to 1010 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 3: do this new cast? Fire them all. I am not 1011 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: doing this. See I will not watch it again. And 1012 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 3: it's very rare for me to pull away from a Housewives. 1013 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 3: Very excited by the way, for New Atlanta going to 1014 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 3: jump right back in because I eased off a little bit. 1015 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: Can my teaser really fast? 1016 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Please? 1017 00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: I saw the premiere episode. 1018 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 3: Is it good? Oh no oh no. 1019 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh oh Megan, Megan, I'm not gonna say much just yet. 1020 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 2: What I'm here to tell you Atlanta is back. 1021 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 3: Jank, God, thank god. I need this. By the way, 1022 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 3: I would watch Phaedri like like read the phone book 1023 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 3: to me, like she really can do know And I 1024 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 3: just took this picture recently of her with her sons, 1025 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, mister President is so big. It 1026 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 3: was like a little man. I love Phaedra's one comment 1027 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: alone on the Real Housewives Girls Trip where she was 1028 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 3: like that woman's old enough to be your mother when 1029 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 3: she was talking about Deminda to Brandy. I walked about 1030 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 3: that for like a full day, like. 1031 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: About it. You're like, the girl, are you watching this? 1032 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh bitch watching this? Fucking to me? To me, it's 1033 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: the best, it was the best Girls trip. But I digress. 1034 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm just really thank god you said that, because I'm 1035 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 3: really I'm really looking forward to it, like genuinely really 1036 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 3: looking forward to it. Potomac is a little too much 1037 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 3: for me, and I think like the women are in 1038 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 3: my neighborhood a lot because they just like film around 1039 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 3: town and the Karen of it all is very dark. 1040 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 3: And I loved the last season. I know some people did, 1041 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 3: so Atlanta coming back after New York being just such 1042 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 3: a disaster and Beverly Hill's not being what I wanted. 1043 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 3: I have very high hopes for Atlanta and I'm full 1044 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 3: back in that's going to be the first episode is 1045 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 3: going to be like like appointment viewing for me. I 1046 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,959 Speaker 3: thank god it's good. Seriously, thank god. If they fucked 1047 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 3: that up again, I would. 1048 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:44,280 Speaker 1: Be so Megan, you will not be disappointed and text 1049 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: me the moment. 1050 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna watch it in real time, so text 1051 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: me at. 1052 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: Nine oh one. And it's not be your thoughts on it. 1053 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait ten your thoughts on it, but will 1054 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: you will not be disappointed? 1055 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 3: And Porsche back Like all my favorites, I Fajor and 1056 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 3: Push were always my favorite, So I'm they just need 1057 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 3: to bring me back and then I'll be uh. 1058 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: You and I would be like Atlanta, have it so okay, Megan, 1059 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much. You are a busy woman, a 1060 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: busy white, a busy mother, and a busy boss. So 1061 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't take this for granted that you took time 1062 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: out to my podcast. 1063 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 4: But. 1064 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 3: Anytime, I love you and I love your gust. I 1065 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 3: listened to it as a fan all the time, and 1066 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 3: you get such amazing exclusives and I love the rundowns. 1067 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 3: I've been a little surprised at a few of the 1068 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 3: hot takes you've had lately. Yes, wise disagreed, not a 1069 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 3: little disagreement, but it's all good and all your success. 1070 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I just love applauding you from afar. You're 1071 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 3: just really killing it and it's a hard industry to 1072 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 3: kill it in, and podcasting in particular is a hard industry. 1073 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 3: And you just like I said, everyone I know listens 1074 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 3: to you. 1075 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: Oh. 1076 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 3: A lot to me, my girl, my friends who follow 1077 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 3: up culture, they all do and like love it and 1078 00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 3: they get so excited when I come on. 1079 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: So if that makes me happy and listen, I owe 1080 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: you a trip on the DC. I need to like 1081 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: find my way back out there so we can hang 1082 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: out and bark, crawl and just like have a good time. 1083 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 3: I would love to see you, and like I said, 1084 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 3: I just really like so happy to come on anytime 1085 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 3: you want. And I'm glad that your your fans are 1086 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 3: giving me a little bit of a chance. 1087 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 2: Which is they love you, Please, they love you. They 1088 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 2: love you, so let them know them, Megan. 1089 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: Where they can listen to your podcast, Citizen McCain, What 1090 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: day of the week it drops, and everything else. 1091 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 3: All places you can find Citizen McCain. And if you 1092 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 3: are if you have five o'clock East Coast time, you 1093 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 3: are bored, you can go on YouTube on the two 1094 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 3: Way Channel with me and I'm just literally doing like 1095 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 3: politics rundown for one hour and we have different guests 1096 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 3: on and it's so funny. My premiere episode, I had 1097 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 3: Perez Hilton and my friend Mary Catherine Hammon and people 1098 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 3: are like Perez Holten and I was like, don't sleep 1099 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 3: on Prezhilton. 1100 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 2: He's very That was a great fucking episode. 1101 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 3: Thank you. He's so smart. 1102 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: He loves you. 1103 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 3: You know, I mets when I was like, I'm not 1104 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,760 Speaker 3: chitting you twenty one at the White House Correspondence dinner 1105 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 3: when he was there with Spencer and Heidi to really 1106 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 3: date myself like a million years ago. And he's been 1107 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 3: another one that's just so nice. Not embarrassed to be 1108 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 3: my friend. Thank you so much to the people who 1109 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 3: are not embarrassed to be my friend, not dragging me 1110 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 3: on social media. I always appreciate that. 1111 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 2: I love you. 1112 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 3: Thank you. But he's just a really smart seem like 1113 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 3: you like, just smart, cool, funny, like all the things. 1114 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,479 Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, no, you're my baby. 1115 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much. Megan, I love you, 1116 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: Citizen McCain. 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