1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: How did dad win don't get to see you don't 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: hug me? 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: Where's the server if I want to coffee? 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Oh god, no, I'll have a flight. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Why do I have an accent? No? 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: No, no, bir and By, you don't know about low 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: flights until you've flown to I was in the air 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: for thirty six hours. 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: On the ground for seven back in the air. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: I mad sure to stay out of all the touristy areas, 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: so we started with I bought each was cracking, got catslaving. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: The swimsuit is fused. Yeah, nah nah, yeah yeah. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: I have to wear shoes here both America and it's 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: ray je Fine, I'll go put on my thongs. 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Be good morning, sweet wirl, and welcome to the No 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, April twelfth, 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'm Jay Eastkes here in the Classic Factory, 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: and alongside me as always, that's Tass Mellis guest listeners. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: This is for you. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Next to him from North Carolina, it's the beard of 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: one my a top shot hot boy, Trey Herby. Ayo, hey, 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: this guy is ready to check in for a good 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: what thirty minutes off the bench. They back up. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: Big in Chicago. So I'm heading out to Toronto, says, 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: the show's over here. Catch me tonight. I'll be still 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: on playback from the bench. 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow on your phone. Excellent And last, but not 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: least over yonder, it is the Apprentice. It's Eshawa kid Ah. Yes, 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: the Hawks fan esh picking up a big dub last night. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Shout out to the stream team for joining us live 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: right now on YouTube like the vid comment away, sub 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: around and find out get your No Dunks merch over 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: at no dunks dot com. T shirts, hoodies, hats, mugs. 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: We got a whole lot to get into on today's podcast. 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Here we got a talking about last night. It's crazy 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: playing games. We'll look ahead to tonight's playing games. We've 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: got two more playoff series to predict. When we move 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: over to the Eastern Conference. We'll do a little Sixers 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: nets and we'll do a little calvs Nicks. But we 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: also had a weggie what do you number? Fifty three? 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Our first from the play in tournament, Anthony Davis with 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the block on cat there that gave us the wedgie, 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: Harlan screaming out wedge and then he just stopped and 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: it went silent for a couple seconds. But hey, we'll 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: take it just because it happened in the play in 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, not like stats that just disappear, they're all 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: a mirage. We count them. So that's fifty three and 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: we are still looking for what is it six more 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: to set. 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: The l time record. Yeah, fifty eight is the current record. 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: So yes, do you think Harlan maybe had an inside 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: joke with Reggie Miller about saying wegg g Miller or 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: something and then stopped midway didn't commit to the bit. 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Something happens, Something happened, because it's almost like they were laughing. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: Maybe something happen in technically, maybe there was a broadcast 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: problem where their MIC's got out mid Weggie he said, Wedge, 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: And I. 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Say that Jim Jackson honestly talked that Weggie into existence 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: in the game prior. Uh, he just out of nowhere 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: brought up weggies after the spillage that happened in that 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: game that that Eagle was talking about, and then Jim 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Jackson just wanted to talk log So let's give that 64 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: one to Jim there about Weggie number fifty three, Okay, 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: Jim let's get into the games. We will start with 66 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the second game of the doubleheader. Last night on TNT. 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: The Lakers outlast the Wolves one, one o two in overtime. 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: They advanced to face the Memphis Grizzlies in the two 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: seven matchup. We'll talk about that series on tomorrow's podcast. 70 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: But uh hoo, boy an ugly win. What a wild 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: game Lebron with thirty ten and six though, man he 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: had some boneheaded plays Anthony Davis twenty four to fifteen 73 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: and three blocks. The Wolves were leading most of this game, 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: but then managed to only score seven points in the 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: final eleven minutes of action. And it was it did 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: feel like tasked, like both of these teams were like, no, 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you take it? No, no, no, no, you take it? No, no, 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: you take it? What do you think? 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's one of those Hey did the Lakers win 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: in or did the Wolves lose it? Oh? You better 81 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: believe the Wolves lost this thing that was theirs to take, 82 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: especially without Rudy Gobert and Nas Reid and Jane McDaniels. 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: The fact that they're up sixteen points into the fourth quarter, 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: that they basically scored nine points in the fourth quarter. 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: Other than the three free throws that Anthony Davis gifted 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: to them throughout the entire fourth quarter. A team with 87 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards were sort of freewheeling it. 88 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: I think Chris Finch likes playing that way. The head 89 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: coach of the Timberwolves just says, go out there and 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: do it. I think they needed some more play calls 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: and also Carl Anthony Towns to give him an excuse. 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: He got goaded into his fourth and fifth foul and 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: wasn't playing all that strongly throughout the fourth quarter and overtime. 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: He was the guy who was scoring Between him and 95 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: Antony Edwards. There's just no way you can allow nine 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: points essentially throughout the entire fourth quarter to happen. He 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: only had two shots in the fourth and overtime, and 98 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards couldn't hit the side of a barn. 99 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: He picked the wrong night to have his maybe worst 100 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: offensive game of his career. 101 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, three of seventeen, three or seventeen. Look at it 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: this way though, It's weird because he's zero for nine 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: from three, but three of eight from two in this fifteen. 104 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, one was one was a wide open layup 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: that the Lakers gifted him with, you know, twenty seconds ago, 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: and the one was a fast break dunk, which was okay, but. 107 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was bad. It was bad. The last six 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: minutes of regulation, they didn't have a field goal. They 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: had Michael Conley's three free throws. The last six minutes 110 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: of regulation, the Timberwolves didn't hit a bucket, and that 111 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: cat had to be utilized a little bit more. And again, 112 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: his aggressiveness I think was muted because of that foul trouble, 113 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: which should have He had five fouls. I mean, fouling 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: on a rebound like that should it be called it's 115 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: it's a foul. But still, anyway, they needed to find 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: a way to get a bucket. 117 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: That's all so many chances even still. 118 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they went into LA and they didn't finish the job. 119 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Really yeah, I mean, the Timberwolves played perfectly, I thought, 120 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: through the first three quarters and then, like you're saying, 121 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Town started picking up fouls, and he basically followed himself 122 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: out of the game. He didn't ever get to the 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: sixth foul, but he played like he couldn't pick up 124 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: a sixth foul because he really couldn't. They needed him 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: inside the Lakers took advantage of no Rudy Gobert, no 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: backup big in nas Reed as well. They had fifty 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: four points in the paint as anticipated. But you know, 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: the game was there for the Timberwolves to win if 129 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: Edwards has anything like a regular Edwards game, because they 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: got a great performance from Mike Conley, got an incredible 131 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: performance I thought from Kyle Anderson. He really stepped up 132 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: and played pretty well. But Edwards just could not get 133 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: it going. And I'm sure part of it was when 134 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: he went head over heels and landed on his shoulder. 135 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: He came back out with like so much tape on 136 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: his shoulder. Surely that was affecting him. But he just 137 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: couldn't do anything. He was looking like Ben Simmons out 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: there the way. He wasn't attacking and getting to the hoop. 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Even in overtime, they get that crazy steal. He should 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: have dunked it like he should have dunked it with 141 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: about eleven seconds left. It end up being a kickout 142 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: to Torrian Prince from the corner also played a really 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: good game, got a good shot, missed it, but Edwards 144 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: should have dunked it. It would have been a one point 145 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: game with eleven seconds left, then he can play the 146 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: foul game going on from there, but he obviously didn't 147 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: have confidence in anything offensively last night. 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, or even maybe give it to the guy who's 149 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: on fire in the other corner because Conley had the 150 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: steal gave to Edwards. Then they run to the corners, 151 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: like Prince goes to the left, Conley goes to the right, 152 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: and Edwards decides sort of sort of blinders on, only 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: sees Prince, but Conley was. I mean, you saw Conley 154 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: react to after the miss and then they had the foul. 155 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: He's like, man, I'm the one guy that can hit 156 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: shots right now, Like give it to me, man. So, yeah, 157 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: just a brutal game from Aunt and they were still 158 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: in it. I mean, like, as we said, Prince had 159 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: a chance to tie it. Obviously they're gifted the free 160 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: throws at the Anthony Davis, what are you doing? Oh 161 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: my god, backing up to him as he's just watching 162 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: the shot go up and just like undercutting him with 163 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: his back to him, and it was a foul. I mean, 164 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: he obviously sort of got under him. And then you know, 165 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: kudos to Conley for hitting all three there that first 166 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: one was iffy bouncing in. 167 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, I love how Lebron called it a brain 168 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: fart in the postgame interview. I like how brain fart 169 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: is just part of the lexicon. It was a huge fart, 170 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: huge gass fart. How do you do that? 171 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: That's me waking up every morning. That's how big of 172 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: like brain fart that one was. But I don't know. 173 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: I thought ad was a weird game, like he ut 174 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: up an incredible line. I think once Towns got into 175 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: foul trouble, Davis sensed that the game had turned right 176 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: then and there because he really came alive in the 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and completely took Towns out of the game 178 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: offensively for the Wolves, because man, Towns had such a 179 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: good first three quarters too, like creating for others. He 180 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: threw that pass in the laying like behind his hand. 181 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: Who was that to Prince? I think for the layoff, 182 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: incredible pass. Then he did the exact same pass a 183 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: little bit later, which I thought was hilarious. Is like 184 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: it was cool the first time watch it again. Yeah, 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: but then I mean, once the fouls ticked up. That's 186 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: the issue with Karl Anthony Towns. He's got to figure 187 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: out how to play the files because he always picks 188 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: them up. 189 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what did you think about those, you know, 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: specifically those fourth and fifth foul, especially the one maybe 191 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: where Adi flopped a little bit on fighting for the 192 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: offensive rebound but Towns grabbing him. What was your take 193 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: on that and the whistle in general when the Lakers 194 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: went to the line a whole lot more. 195 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, those were the two whistles that bump with Anthony 196 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: Davis that really changed the game, and then and the 197 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: one with Lebron where Lebron go toed him. The Anthony 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: Davis one, if he doesn't fall is not called, and 199 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: it's going up for a rebound. It happens every possession, 200 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: almost like the bumping. The physicality of it, the fact 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: that he falls got him the whistle. 202 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: I thought he got called caught all watching kat on 203 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: that shot because Aidy hustled to try and box him 204 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: out when he goes around him. Then you know Carl 205 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Anthon town sort of instinctively grabs up top and then yes, 206 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: did Adie embellish did he just slip whatever, That's why 207 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the foul was called. It's like happened early in the 208 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: rebound because ad actually just had a little more left 209 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: in the tank. I think Kat also did tire too. 210 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that missed a chunk 211 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: of time, so maybe his conditioner wasn't all there, and 212 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: as the game went on and the fouls maybe in 213 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: his head a little bit. 214 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: He played over forty minutes like like every Timberwolf did 215 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: in the starting lineup. I can't make that an excuse 216 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: for them, because I thought the officials they did all right. 217 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: They called Anthony Davis in the fourth order for a 218 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: travel when he had the ball up near the free 219 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: throw line. They called a moving screen in overtime on 220 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: ruiaction where you're using your whistle properly. I mean, you're 221 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: calling the things that are happening, calling Anthony Davis shuffling 222 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: his feet. So I can't put it on them. The 223 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: fact that Karl Anthony Towns was he was brought back 224 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: into this game with five fouls and he didn't he 225 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: just yeah, the aggression was absolutely gone zilch zero. I mean, 226 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: that's on him. I don't think you can put this 227 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: on the officials. It's just miraculous. We've talked about Torrian 228 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Prince having a good game coming too. The starting line 229 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: for je McDaniels, Kyle Anderson was playing the backup five, 230 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: and yeah, they were out rebounded by I guess it 231 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: was eleven when it comes down to it, because they 232 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: didn't have Nasrit and Rudy Gobert, but yeah, he was 233 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: doing everything he can four steals and four blocks, Nikhil 234 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: Alexander Walker was awesome off the bench, Mike Conley played 235 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: so freaking well, and Karl Anthony Towns was really really 236 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: good going twenty four of eleven and fell off and 237 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: they lose this game. I just I was just shocked. 238 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: That's what it really comes down. They played so frickin' 239 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: well and they just needed they need a little more 240 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: offense from Yeah, I don't know if Anthony Edwards shoulder 241 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: was destroying hurting him that much, but he feels like 242 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: the guy that would at least, you know, fight through it. 243 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: In terms of drives, like there should have just been 244 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: more drives to the. 245 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: Rim besides Anthony Davis who already gave a little love 246 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: and Lebron with a good line though he did have 247 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: some careless turnovers even on the inbounds play there at 248 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: the end, it was like, oh, just sort of served 249 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: it up to the Wolves there almost terrible. 250 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's like not even pressure turnovers, just throwing 251 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: it straight to the Timberwolves. That was very weird to 252 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: see from Lebron. But of course, like guys played so long, 253 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: everything feels like a full circle moment, down to the 254 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: fact that like two times on the final play to 255 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: Shrewder like a that was the donielle Marshall play once again, 256 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: Like you got to be an old head to remember 257 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: that one. Oh, Lebron passing on the final play, can 258 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: you believe it? And then also like it coming down 259 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: to the final play in a play in game, Lebron 260 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: did that in a play the game like a few 261 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: seasons ago, aiming for the middle basket against the Warriors. 262 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: Times the flat circle. 263 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron man, I will say, I thought for the 264 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Lakers side of things. In addition to like their stars 265 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: there in Ad and Lebron, Dennis Shrewder, what a game 266 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: from him, twenty one points. He hits the tie breaking 267 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: three pointer in the corner from that pass from Lebron 268 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: with like one and a half to go, and he 269 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: just stepped up for a guy who played like garbage. 270 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Indiangelo Russell, I mean, it's not gonna be remembered, but 271 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: he had a nightmare game. He was one for nine, 272 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: he had two points. He did have eight assists, But 273 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: kudos to Ham for just benching them basically. I know 274 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: he was in there for one possession near the end, 275 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: but like he didn't play a big chunk of that 276 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Yeah, and he stepped up obviously hitting that 277 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: shot and giving them some little energy. I thought, even 278 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: like Ham found a very switchy defensive line up there 279 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: when it was ad Ruey, Lebron Reeves and Shruder, they 280 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: could just switch everything and the Wolves had nothing to run. 281 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean that that's the other part of this. It's like, 282 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: what it was their shot selection. Again, credit to Lakers defense, 283 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: but it was bad like that looked like we talked 284 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: about the play and giving us a little March madness. 285 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: That's why that game felt out. Tom turnovers, some weird whistles, 286 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, just that felt like a March madness game, 287 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: like a college basketball game. 288 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, And you know, shout out to Darbnham. I 289 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: think going away from D'Angelo Russell when he wasn't playing 290 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: very well, used him as a decoy eventually later and 291 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: you know, at least Russell was passing the ball, but 292 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: he got out played by Mike Conley I thought in 293 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: this matchup, and also shout out to him for going 294 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: away from Jared Vanderbilt. Like, Vanderbilt was pretty solid offense 295 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: or defensively early on Edwards, but once Edwards slowed down, 296 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: he kind of knew maybe you didn't necessarily need the 297 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: defense out there, and Vanderbilt was taken away from the 298 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Lakers offensively, just not needing to be guarded at all. 299 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: And Hachamura didn't do much better, I didn't think, but 300 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: he made some plays, which was enough for the Lakers. 301 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Conley, although he had an incredible game, I 302 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: wanted to see a little bit more calling of plays 303 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, running the show a little bit more. 304 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: It's not really what he does with the Wolves. He 305 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: kind of plays off ball and Anthony Edwards runs the show. 306 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: But on a night where you have it going and 307 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: your other guy has nothing, he probably should have been 308 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: involved a lot. 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, just force it a little bit, just a little bit, Yeah, 310 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: because he was cash. What a game from my comments. 311 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Any other notes from honestly an insane playing game. 312 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are talking up the 313 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: Lakers as a championship contender. Oh my god, possibly think 314 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: that if you watch this game, they are still easily 315 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: beatable from behind the arc, and the Timberwolves were doing 316 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: it through the first three quarters of this game. So 317 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: to me, if you were thinking that the Lakers are 318 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: gonna be the first team to go through the play 319 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: in Tournament go all the way to the NBA Finals, 320 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: you gotta think that a little bit less after watching 321 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: last night. I mean, you're not gonna get that weird 322 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: of a fourth quarter from lebron probably again in the playoffs. 323 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: But the Lakers are a mid team. Like they there's 324 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: a reason they are in the play in tournament, even 325 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: though they finished strong this season. 326 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the people who are saying that the 327 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: Lakers could just go through the Western Conference, even calling 328 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: them the favorites in the Western Conference, just aren't watching 329 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: the games. They're just they're just looking at the names, 330 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: and they're looking at ad and Lebronnia that they can 331 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: turn on they can do it. I think that's what 332 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: it comes down to, because I guess this Wolves team, 333 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: where they had a really good advantage, the Lakers are 334 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: should play big and we're bigger than this Wolves team, 335 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: and yeah they out rebounded them, and yeah they destroyed 336 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: them in the points in the paint battle, and yeah 337 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: they had twelve offensive boards and that this was without 338 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert and Nasried. Are they gonna be able to 339 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: do that night in and night out? Are they gonna 340 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: win the free throw battle? They generally do win the 341 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: free throw battle? Are they gonna do that night in 342 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: the night out? It was just nine in This one 343 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: should have been a heck of a lot more really 344 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: in terms of the free throw discrepancy. So yeah, I 345 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: agree they don't. Look I mean, it's one game, but 346 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: still don't. I don't think they're gonna get better as 347 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: the playoffs go on. I don't think these old guys 348 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: are gonna get better. 349 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be well because their best bet to either 350 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: beat the Grizzlies or to go far in the playoffs 351 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: is four to seven times. They're gonna have Lebron going 352 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: for twenty five or thirty eighty, probably going for twenty 353 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: five to thirty. And then it's like the who's gonna 354 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: step up on this night? Is it gonna be shrewter 355 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: like it was last night? Is it gonna be a 356 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Beasley game where he catches fire. You know, will it 357 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: be a D'Angel Russell game obviously, where one where he's 358 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: on he's a streaky player, or Austin Reeves exactly. It's 359 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: impossibly ruly. It's like it's gonna be just like who 360 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: the hell on that night is gonna be the one 361 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: to contribute. But you know, defensively, that will that will 362 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: keep them in games. They play hard, and they have 363 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: all these switchable guys and you've got a d there 364 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: manning in the middle. So good win from on that end. 365 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: But what a strange, strange game, especially when it gets 366 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: into like one o'clock Eastern and you're going to overtime 367 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: in a game that no one wants to win, where 368 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: Pelig was going to double overtime for a second obviously, 369 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: where Prince has a very very good look nuts. All right, 370 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: let's go to the first game on TNT last night. 371 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: The Hawks hold off the Heat one sixteen to one 372 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: oh five. They will advance to face Boston, will get 373 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: into that two seven matchup also on tomorrow's podcast. But wow, 374 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: what a win from Atlanta. Sam Quinn a CBS called it. 375 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: Shack of TNT called it, and tass Mellis of No 376 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: Dunks the only three people in the world to take 377 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawk last night, and holy crap, Tasks, that 378 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: was one of the best games they played all season long. 379 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: They were really good. Trey Young doing a great job 380 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: of not making it about him. 381 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't force it. 382 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: Jontay Murray was. It was awesome. It was a question 383 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: mark when they made this straight to me, what exactly 384 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: is Joan say Murray gonna do well, He's gonna do 385 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: what he does best and let's just get into the 386 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: lane and be ultra confident. They're just such different players, 387 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: him and Trey Young, and he got into the lane 388 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: and was taking what the heat gave him and shooting 389 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 3: over top. But even though three point shooting for Johntay 390 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: Murray was there just how what kind of float? What button? 391 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: Says Quince Night or pressed? With this team, I mean 392 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: they going, you know, from the guys coming off the 393 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: bench and playing their roles perfectly. John Collins fine not 394 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: shooting the ball, uh and Clint Capella fine not shooting 395 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: the ball is blocking the snot out of people? And 396 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: Yakankongu blocking the snot out of people. Everybody just playing 397 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: their role ridiculously while well, what's in the water, Quinn, 398 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: It's just there's quite a lot of palling around here. 399 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: Just an incredible performance. They kicked their ass and obviously 400 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: the Heat were coming back. In the third quarter, Tyler 401 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: Hero found his flow, which was nice to see because 402 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: they were absolutely going at him to start the game. 403 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: Give the ball to DeAndre Hunter, go at Tyler Hero. 404 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: But then Eric Spolzer said, well we can play that game. 405 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: Let's go at Treyon over and over and over again. 406 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: And Tyler Hero found his flow. But unlike the Wolves, 407 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: they were able to take those blows from the Mining 408 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: Heat and they just kept common with Jal. 409 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Every time it looked like the Heat were like, here 410 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: they go. They're going to take control of this game, 411 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: get to five or six points. Every time the Hawks 412 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: would like have an answer, and usually it was missing 413 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: a shot, grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring off of that. 414 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: That's what it was. 415 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: He was nuts. 416 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Quinn Capella looked like the eighth grader with the 417 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: mustache out there. He was like the biggest, baddest dude, 418 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: and that was completely the difference in the game. He 419 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: had eight offensive rebounds, the Heat had six and I 420 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: don't know, I tweeted it last night. Did anybody ever 421 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: say rebounding is contagious house? It felt like it. It 422 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: felt like Cabello went out there dominated Bam on the glass. 423 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: Everybody else on the Heat is six foot five and under. 424 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: It felt like last night they look tiny compared to 425 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: a Hawks team that is not very big, but like 426 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: John Collins has size, Sadique Bay has size, Johnson has size, 427 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: a Conglu has size, and they just all went to 428 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: the glass every single time they basically, I mean, the 429 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: Heat aren't known as a rebounding team, but they are 430 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: certainly an effort and physicality team. And the Hawks had 431 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: more effort, more physicality and timely shot making. I thought 432 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: as well, like Murray really struggled in the first half. 433 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: He went two for nine, but five for seven in 434 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: the second half, and like you're saying, skeets every time 435 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: the Hawks needed an answer, I kind of felt like 436 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: it was Murray. It would get down like seven or 437 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: eight points. He had a couple of little backbreakers just 438 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: floating in the lane, using his length to shoot over 439 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: the top of the Heat. If Kyle Lowry doesn't play 440 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: the best game of his season, this is an easy blow. 441 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah for the Hawks. Yeah, Lowry, Yeah, you're right, kept 442 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: them in it in the first half, continued his incredible 443 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: play in the second half. It was weird. We had 444 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Conley and Lowry dominating last night in both in losses. 445 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, Atlanta elt rebound in Miami sixty three to 446 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: thirty nine, twenty two to six on the offensive class 447 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: that is a huge number, twenty six to six and 448 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: second chance points. That was the game. Jim Jackson on 449 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: the call, Some guys just wanted a little bit more. 450 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: It was Capella. I thought the heat came into this 451 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: game too. Somebody told them, hey, the play in tournament, 452 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: it's not the playoffs, and they're like, oh, all right, 453 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: this is just like a normal game in February. We'll 454 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: come out with that energy. They were brutal, terrible first start, 455 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: like live ball, turnovers, stepping out of bounds, giving up 456 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: obviously offensive rebounds, like just no fight. And they were 457 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: just like they had the like the like they were 458 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: holding themselves like this is a meaningless game and don't worry, 459 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: we'll get back into it now. They did, but it 460 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: still came back to bite him in the ass, and 461 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler was burrutal in this game. How many bunnies 462 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: did he miss? It was terrible, And he was terrible 463 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: shooting layups. It like he was missing layups by a mile. 464 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: He was bricking layups like they were going on the 465 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: other side of the rim. A credit to like a 466 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: cong Wu And obviously Capella like did block the crap 467 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: at him a couple of times, but like he was 468 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: just missing so many that you get used to Jimmy Butler. 469 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Even though once where Jimmy gets fouled, like he gets 470 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: he draws the contact and then it's usually an and 471 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: one because it's a layup. He was missing those ones 472 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: even and those don't even show up in the box 473 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: score as a shot. And then Bam too, I thought 474 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: he had a couple of where it's like, what are 475 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: they doing right around the rim? Like so they're two 476 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: star players, I mean they shit the bet. I thought 477 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: they were both terrible. Yeah, totally. 478 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: I thought Bam was generally just not as involved in 479 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: the offense as he should have been. One of the 480 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: best ways the heat can generate offense. I feel like 481 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: it's Bam grabbing a rebound and bringing it back up 482 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: off the court or bringing it up off whatever in transition. 483 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: But as we talked about, the Heat weren't rebounding so 484 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: that that wasn't really an option for them. And then yeah, 485 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: Butler just could not get it going inside at all. 486 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: He did get eleven free throws. He was grifting certainly 487 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: at some points, maybe to his detriment, trying to draw 488 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: fowls more so than necessarily finished. But the Hawks dominated 489 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: the interior, and that's usually where you would assume that 490 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: the Heat had the advantage. 491 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, was Bam, it happens where he doesn't force the action, 492 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: threw out his playoff and play in Courier. Now, I 493 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 3: guess he should have just been watching Kyle Lowry as 494 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: Lowry was forcing it over and over and over again. Yeah, 495 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: and he saved them multiple It was down. They were 496 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: down twenty with two minutes left in the first quarter, 497 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: and he made it digestible. So he scored seven in 498 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: the last two minutes of play because he was just 499 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: he was just doing Kyle Lowry things, making something have it, 500 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: going to the rim, throwing his body around, getting a foul. 501 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: Then he hit a three and another tough layup. They're 502 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: down fifteen and it was a game, and then yeah, 503 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: Tyler Hero doing his thing to start the third, and 504 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: you'd think, all right, we just got to get to 505 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: Jimmy time, and that never never came because it was 506 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: an absolute blowout win for the Atlanta Hawks. You're totally 507 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: right about the heat and the way they walked, in 508 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: their disposition walking into this arena. Toronto fans, Pelicans fans 509 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: tonight should have been watching. Hope they were watching last night, 510 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: because I always comment on the Heat fans. They always 511 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 3: come back at me. But they were non existent in 512 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: the first half. They thought they were going to show 513 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: up in the second half, and too little, too late, obviously, 514 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: and look they the rebounding thing is as real. They 515 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: went and got Kevin Love as their biot guy, and 516 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: they started him at the four because they were desperate. 517 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: He obviously came off the bench in this one. They 518 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: got Cody Zeller as well because they were desperate. They 519 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: never replaced PJ. Tucker's grit. They never replaced their lack 520 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: of size in the end, and so rebounding was a problem. 521 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: Scoring obviously was a problem. They're lucky to get thirty 522 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: three from Kyle but Bay and the Hawk's bench. 523 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Wow, reserves Bay Bogdanovich, a Coongu and Jalen Johnson, who 524 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: had an awesome putback dunk in this one fifty three points. 525 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: For those guys, it felt like watching this game at 526 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: times like seven of the eight or eight of the 527 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: nine best players in the game were Atlanta Hawks players, 528 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: and it was like Lowry who else played good? For 529 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: the Heat, that's it, that's all. Swery played well. 530 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, other guys had moments like Hero had a moment 531 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the second half, and that's kind 532 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: of like it seemed to me that maybe the tide 533 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: was going to turn for the Heat because their first 534 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: half it looked like they just met each other, and 535 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: the second half they came out, all right, we're fired up, 536 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: we're playing a little bit here. Hero was attacking Trey 537 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: Young in three straight possessions. Jim Jackson hung Iron Eagle 538 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: out to dry on a question. He turned it into 539 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: a rhetorical question that didn't give Eagle a chance to answer, 540 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: which was very funny, but that was basically it. Like, 541 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: I mean, Hero did have a good game. I guess 542 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 2: he probably played the best of the starters at least 543 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: for Miami, but it didn't feel like he had a 544 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: huge impact on the game. 545 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: No, just the Hawks doing all those little things too. 546 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: I love early in this game there was Dejonte Murray 547 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: busting his ass to front Bam so they couldn't even 548 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: go to him and get him a pass inside, Like 549 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: that's a lot of height that Bam has on him. 550 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: He was just working his ass off to stand in 551 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: front of him as it rotated a Kong Wu blocking 552 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: Bam at the apex there to get that jump. All 553 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: that was special. And then John Collins, it was late 554 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: in the game where it was still a game. He 555 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: had that offensive rebound where he was then falling out 556 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: of bounds and John Collins made like an incredible bounce pass. 557 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I think it was to Bay like cutting inside there. 558 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 559 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: It was just like, like I want to make this 560 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: very clear, credit to the Hawks from how they rebounded, 561 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: especially Capella a monster. It was one of those weird 562 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: games where the ball just always bounced to the Hawks 563 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: and it was gotta be frustrating, Like you've played in 564 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: games like that where we're just like what the hell? 565 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: Like there was one play where it was like it 566 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: was a turnover, but it ricocheted to a Hawks player 567 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: for a dunk, and it was like the ball just 568 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: found its way. Now you got to go make that. 569 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: I get that the fifty to fifty balls, but sometimes 570 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: the ball does have a little bit of mine of 571 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: its own, and it just was always going to Atlanta. 572 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: In this game, Yeah, you know you're getting beat when 573 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: the Hawks generate two wide open three point looks, one 574 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: of them for Boyan Bogdan, for bog Don Bodanovic. They 575 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: missed both of them, but somehow it ends up with 576 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: the bog Don dunk down the middle of the lane, Like, 577 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: come on, that guy's probably got five dunks this season. 578 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: He's getting one in a half court setting. It just 579 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: was not good for the heat. They probably thought we 580 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: can turn it on at any time, and they could 581 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: not turn it on at all last night. 582 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: So the Hawks improved to three and zero all time 583 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: in playing tournament games, it's people are calling it the 584 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: tray in tournament. Nobody's calling it. But he did have 585 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: a good game. I don't want to go out so 586 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: like you, you slipped it in right at the beginning. 587 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: I thought he did. He just didn't force things. They 588 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: were getting great three point looks early in this game. 589 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: He had his floater going and went to it a 590 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: couple of times, especially going right. He just it was 591 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: that was a well, you know, orchestrated from a point guard. 592 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: I thought in Trey Young, he didn't need to go 593 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: for thirty five and gun a bunch of threes. 594 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: He was the point guard. I totally agree, and if 595 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: they lost, we'd be looking at the stat line and say, 596 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: one of eight from three, come on, Trey. But he 597 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: played a good floor game, and it's it's odd to 598 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: see when you look up and down the Hawks stat 599 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: line that they didn't shoot the ball all that well 600 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: from three. They missed a freakin bunch of free throw 601 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: They shot fifty nine percent from the free throw line 602 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: and still got it done because they're far bigger than 603 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 3: the Heat. So I think they go back into the 604 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: locker room and say, first, we played our asses off, 605 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: but we can shoot a heck of a lot better. 606 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: Going into the series against the Celtics, they there's a 607 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: resemblance to that twenty one playoff run where everybody just 608 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: doing their job and not forcing It felt good watching 609 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: this Hawks team that they can just take the first 610 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: seventy games off of a season and then just turn 611 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: it on the last dozen. 612 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler quoted after the game saying, come Friday, we 613 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: have to play the legit exact opposite of how we 614 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: played tonight. 615 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: He guaranteed it way. 616 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: Sorry, Kyle Lowry, you gotta have seven points man. 617 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: He probably will. Yeah, that's the thing. I am a 618 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: little terrified after watching last night's game. I'm like, oh, 619 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: whoever wins tonight between the Bulls and Raptors. I'm like, 620 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: oh God, Jimmy and Bam will likely bounce back after 621 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: the brutal performance. But you know, maybe we continue to 622 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: overvaluate this team. They struggle to score. Outside of Lowry 623 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: hitting six threes, they shot like they hit five. The 624 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: rest of the team combined they can't hit threes, which 625 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: is a huge issue in today's game. But good win 626 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: from the Hawks. They will go to Boston. I should 627 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: be there for Game two. I'm headed to Boston. Run 628 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: the marathon on Monday, game one on Saturday. Got to 629 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: assume Game two is either Monday night or Tuesday night, Right. 630 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: It could be Wednesday night with some weird stuff Saturday. No, Yeah, 631 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 3: big gap be good? Yeah? Does the marathon end in 632 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: the Celtics Arena? Just take your seat. 633 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, that's we'll see. Hopefully I can 634 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: get out there. Okay, so tonight's playing games. Let's just 635 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: make this quick. Bowls Raptors is the first one, seven 636 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: pm Eastern. We're on ESPN tonight, and you can join 637 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: us on playback because you know we got the No 638 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Dunk's Bowl. Oh my god, I can't believe we're gonna 639 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: be doing this, living and dying with every possession. Trey 640 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: Kirby's Bulls versus game time Toronto Raptors. 641 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: Look at Dray Kirby's got a jersey on underneath the 642 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: shooting shirt. Wow for number seven starts tonight, Brent Barry 643 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: right here, oh man, number seven? 644 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: All right, well baby, here's a nice inside joker right there. 645 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Here's the rule. 646 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: We got the camera, find it. 647 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: We gotta wear our Raptors jerseys tonight and play that. 648 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. Okay, there you go. So I 649 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: have a warm up. I did have an I used 650 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: to have the classic ninety five all Ver Miller warm up. Well, 651 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: I have the warm up jacket too. I gave that 652 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: one to our buddy Ken because it was a little 653 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: bit big for me. But I have the jacket, I can, 654 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: I can d robe. 655 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: Guys, We'll be in tonight on playback, so join us 656 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: at seven pms Eastern. The link is in the show notes. 657 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: What's what's your one thing you're looking for in tonight's 658 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: playing game between the Raps first team to ninety. 659 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: Okay, first team to ninety I think wins this game. 660 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: These are like two of the best defenses in the 661 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: league since this basically since the All Star Break, since 662 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Pearl showed up for the Raptors, since Patrick Beverley showed 663 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: up for the Bulls. But man, this is maybe gonna 664 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: be one of the ugliest games that matters because neither 665 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: of these teams can score. They're both in the bottom 666 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 2: five in three point shooting, so it's maybe gonna come 667 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: down to one player getting hot for either team. Kobe 668 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: White could do it for the Bulls, Gary Trent Junior 669 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: could do it for the Raptors. If a team has 670 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: a player hit five threes, they're probably gonna win. This one. 671 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: A big match up to watch. I do think we'll 672 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: be seeing how DeMar DeRozan attacks likely og ananobi Og 673 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: has kind of locked him up so so far in 674 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: the season series. I think DeRozan's only averaging fourteen points 675 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: a game or something like that, only four assists. 676 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Now Levine didn't play in some of those games. 677 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: That's right. Dan Levine has been straight up balling in 678 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: the year twenty twenty three, is putting up like twenty 679 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: seven a game, fifty forty ninety. But he didn't have 680 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: a great playoffs last year. He was dealing with a 681 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: knee injury. So I think that both Levine and Vucevic 682 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: are gonna get looks because the Raptors, no doubt, are 683 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: going to try and stop DeMar de Rozan for somebody 684 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: else to beat him, that means vuc is gonna be 685 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: taking a lot of wide open threes from the top 686 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: of the key. Sometimes they go in, sometimes they don't. 687 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: And Levine would be it'd be nice to see a 688 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: heater from him as well, But uh, yeah, I don't know. 689 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: I was dying laugh and I saw the predictions from 690 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: uh Darnell Mayberry and Eric Karen at the Athletic they 691 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: have been, like us, forced to watch these teams play 692 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: every single game of their season. So of course Darnell 693 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: is picking the Raptors to win and Eric is picking 694 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: the balls. There's the way the team I watch is 695 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: gonna be consistent enough to win this one Tonight's true. 696 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point. It's a coin flipper. I 697 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: don't bet. But as we've said, the over under line 698 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: is two hundred and twelve point five, which doesn't sound 699 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: like a lot. In today's NBA, it's one oh seven, 700 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: one oh five, and you're there, baby. But as Trey said, 701 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: it feels like it's going to be low scoring. Usually 702 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: in the playing tournament there's one game you just it's 703 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: hard to watch. So we haven't got that yet. Really, No, No, 704 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: it wasn't. It wasn't the Wolves. It's it's been working 705 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: at least. Yeah, there's a Pacers Wizards game. That's what 706 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: it usually is too, and in my recollection it could 707 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: be this one. Okay, but it'll be fun for us. 708 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: We'll be on playback seven pm Eastern. Again, that link 709 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: is in the show notes. The second game tonight is 710 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: Thunder Pelicans at nine to thirty pm Eastern, probably a 711 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: little later in that on ESPN. The winner advances to 712 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: face the Wolves in the final playing game for that 713 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: number eight seed. What are your takes on this one 714 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: task heading into it? 715 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: It feels like the Pelicans should absolutely roll to this 716 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: victory with the way they've been playing versus the way 717 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: the Thunder have been playing. The Pels have been playing 718 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: so well, and the Thunder don't look like that team 719 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: that was awesome throughout the first three quarters of the season. 720 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: Brandon Ingram is gonna be the difference, it feels like. 721 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 3: And I know Shaye will step up, but fourth quarter 722 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: brandon Ingram is a real thing, and he's been He's 723 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: been fantastic. He has been the superstar between these two 724 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: teams in terms of the way that they've been playing recently. So, 725 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: you know, just just on that, I think I think 726 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: that's a fair way to evaluate it. I think the 727 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: Pels should should walk away with this one. 728 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: I have no feel of this game. I have no 729 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: clue who's winning this game tonight. You're nodding away. 730 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: I totally agree. It's like either team could have the 731 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: best play on the floor and still lose. I think 732 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: that's just what happened with the Pelicans against the Timberwolves. 733 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: Right brandon Ingram went for forty two. They ended up 734 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: blowing it in the second half of that game. But man, 735 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 2: he has been on fire. Lately twenty seven, seven and 736 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 2: six the last month shake Gilgess Alexander is it gonna 737 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: make an All NBA team, probably finish top eight in 738 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: MVP balloting. I would imagine my ex factor, Yonis Valentiunis. 739 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: I think he'll have a twenty rebound game, much like 740 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: Clint Capella is not a very good rebounding Yeah, exactly right, 741 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: and Valentiunis has been in every play in tournament. He 742 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: knows how to show up when the lights are the 743 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: somewhat brightest. So I'm expecting a big game from yonas inside. 744 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: All right, Well, those two games on tonight, Bulls Wraps 745 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: and Pelicans Thunder, we're gonna tear our first break. When 746 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: we come back, We're gonna look at two of the 747 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference playoff matchups and hit them with our predictions. 748 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, all right back here in the Classic Factory. 749 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Love to see the big numbers of people come. Note 750 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: for the live show here on YouTube, but the likes 751 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: don't make sense with the number of people here. The 752 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: math ain't math, and hit the like button if you're 753 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: joining us live and make sure you subscribe. Let's get 754 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: into some Eastern Conference Playoff previews. For the second time 755 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: in the past four years, the Philadelphia seventy six Ers 756 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: and the Brooklyn Nets will face off in the first 757 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: round of the NBA Playoffs. Game one is scheduled for 758 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: Saturday at one pm at the Wells Fargo Center in 759 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: South Philly. What's one thing you're going to be watching 760 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: in this series? 761 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: This is not an exciting series. No, This to me 762 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: is the least interesting first round series non play in 763 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: involved in the division. Because I think this one's going 764 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: to be a blow up. I don't think that the 765 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: Nets have anybody that will be able to handle Joel Embiid, 766 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: So I guess one thing to watch is his free 767 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: throw attempts. Because the Nets are actually pretty good at 768 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 2: not fouling, but Embiid goes to the all the time. 769 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: I assume he's gonna live at the line, putting up 770 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: thirty something per game. He should have some monster lines 771 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: in this one. So I guess the one thing I'm 772 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: really watching is to see what James Harden looks like 773 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: For the seventy six Ers, he sat out seven of 774 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 2: the team's last thirteen games with his achilles problem. I 775 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: think they can win this series even if Harden is 776 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: getting back up to speed. It's more of a long 777 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: term thing seeing what Harden's gonna look like, because they're 778 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: gonna need him at his peak for round two. But 779 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard for me to convince myself 780 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: of the Nets doing anything besides stealing one game after 781 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: they're down three to zero. 782 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 783 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 3: As good a story as the Nets have been, and 784 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: as much as it is fun to watch them galvanize 785 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 3: themselves after the whole thing that they've gone through, and 786 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: they've got such likable guys, the problem is the best 787 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: player on the other team has no matchup on this one. 788 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: Even though Nick Clackson has been really good, solid solid season, 789 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 3: the Sixers are gonna go to Mbad over and over 790 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: and over again, and it's just gonna be a struggle 791 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: bus for Nick Claxton. To deal with him. They basically 792 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 3: have to commit to getting the ball out of Embiid's 793 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: hands or not allowing him to catch it at all. 794 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 3: There has been some templates recently by other teams playing 795 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: the Sixers playing zone to take away Embiid from the 796 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 3: Nail or take away the pocket passes from James Harden. 797 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 3: Just basically don't allow them to go to Embid. That's 798 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 3: a good thing. If you're playing the Sixers in doc rivers, 799 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: you know they're just going to get embad. The ball 800 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: around the free throw line. It's basically, don't let him 801 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 3: catch it because it's it's Nick Claxton, who's just you know, 802 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: far lighter than Joel Embiid. He's gonna be able to 803 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 3: push off and score. Or Dayron Sharp is their backup center, 804 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna it's he's gonna be you know, he's too 805 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: young to be able to handle embat and Embid. It's 806 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: just a freaking MVP. So they just they don't have 807 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: the personnel. They haven't had the personnel in years past, 808 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 3: and they they they weren't ready for this. So that's 809 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: that's obviously the biggest possession after possession after possession, that's 810 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: what the Sixers do. So it's gonna be tough. 811 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: Here's one thing to watch from the net side of things. 812 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: Hat tip to Schumann out there in his series Preview 813 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: the Nets. Their three point rate, it's sort of skyrocketed 814 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: after they traded Kyrie and KD went from thirty seven 815 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: point six to forty three point seven percent. That's the 816 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: fifth highest in the league after they made those moves. 817 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: So I think that's their best chance to like pull 818 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: off an insane upset here. Just gun away because you're 819 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna lose the battle at the free throw line, because 820 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: you're taking on Embid and Harden. You're gonna lose the 821 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: battle inside the arc because mainly because of Embiid. So 822 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: you got to get that rate up above fifty percent 823 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: in this series from deep and after the deadline, when 824 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: Brooklyn hit fifteen or more threes, they were nine to one. 825 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: When they didn't, they were four and fourteen could Vaughn. 826 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: And this speaks to what you said about, like, how 827 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: do they even guard Joel Embid because of the personnel? 828 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Will he go crazy small? Like will he just be like, 829 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: let's just get five shooters out there and stretch it 830 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: as much as possible. I mean, Claxson's gonna play, don't 831 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: get me wrong, but like to help their chances, to 832 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: help the math, just attempt a lot of threes and 833 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: hope you hit those fifteen, sixteen, seventeen threes in a 834 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: game to give yourself a chance. 835 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they're gonna try and 836 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: be the Celtics and just use their length because they 837 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: are long and had one. 838 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: Good game against him Beide actually too, if you've had 839 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: is one of his best seat his best offensive. 840 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 3: Games ye season. Yeah he matched them. Okay as far 841 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 3: as points, yeah, points to points, Yeah, Yeah, I think 842 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 3: I think they try and use Clackson's length. Bridges Dorian 843 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: Finney Smith are really really good defenders, and they throw 844 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 3: Royce O'Neill out there. Yeah, they're gonna Bridges Dorrian Finney Smith. 845 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: They're probably gonna start on Harden and Tyres Max, respectively, 846 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: and they're gonna do a pretty damn good job on 847 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 3: those two guys. Then they have to recover and just 848 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: get arms in front of Joel Embiid as well as 849 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: Nick Clackson. So that's I think that's the game plan. 850 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 3: They They do have hope because their defenders are so 851 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: good and so committed to the to the task at hand, 852 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 3: but uh yeah, one on one it ain't gonna work. 853 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: I don't think. 854 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk X factors. Who you got circled. 855 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: X factors for this? That's tough, Like, what's an X factor? 856 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: Mikhale Bridges going off scoring a forty point game, like, 857 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 2: that's that's the X factor to me, as if if 858 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 2: the Nets can win the turnover battle and hit a 859 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: bunch of threes, that's the only possible upset in this 860 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: and that would be a one game thing to me. 861 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: I suppose Spencer Dinwitty could be a bit of an 862 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 2: X factor here. I can foresee the Nets trying to 863 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: attack with Dinwiddie isolating on Maxi. Maybe Maxie probably the 864 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: smallest worst defender in the starting lineup for the Sixers, 865 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 2: so put him in as many actions as you possibly 866 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: can and try and generate open threes and force turnovers 867 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: and run as much as you possibly can. That's the 868 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: recipe for the Nets stealing a win. But none of 869 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: that to me seems like a sustainable thing that will 870 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: last through out a series. 871 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just for the nets sake. Embid is gonna 872 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 3: probably score a lot, and they just got to hope 873 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 3: that the bridges enduring. Finney Smith, Limit Harden and Tyres 874 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 3: Maxi and and then then maybe the math as you said, 875 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 3: because you're your X factor here is Spencer did Witty. 876 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: I assume, yeah, yes, somebody, it's got to be one 877 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: of those. It's gotta be Seth Curry can maybe play 878 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 3: some more minutes in this game, in this series. 879 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: Unleash Cam Thomas, like it could be one of these, 880 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: Like they need a bunch of threes, they need one 881 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: of these guys to catch fire. Cam Seth Dinwitty. 882 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 3: Cam's rolling right now. He had a forty point game. 883 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: Which one. 884 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: It's true. Look, this is a tough matchup for the nets. 885 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 3: We didn't even mention Cam Thomas. He will, he'll be there, Johnson, 886 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: Cam Johnson, I say, Cam Thomas, Well, Thomas play, Yeah, yeah, 887 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: I got so many Thomas's, so many Johnson's, so many cams. 888 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: Uh, okay, let's just make this quick. Then, what's your prediction? 889 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: This is a pathetic preview. I mean, we're just down 890 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: on the nets here. This is embarrassing. 891 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: You got've been pretty bad, you know, for the second 892 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 2: half of the season. But eleven and thirteen they only 893 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: win if they hit what did you say? Fifteen three 894 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: stas basically the only time they win. So I think 895 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: that will happen at least once. But give me the 896 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 2: sixers in five. Another X factor, as the stream team 897 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: is saying, is like Joel and beats facebones, like him 898 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 2: getting stage healthy. That gives the and that's a chance. 899 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 900 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, eat high quality foods this week. No cheese steaks. 901 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. If he's backpedaling on a fast break from another player, 902 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 3: he's not going to put his face into an outboat 903 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 3: like you did for Pascal Siakam. Just no freak accidents. Yeah, 904 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 3: they've We all want to see Joel and beat healthy 905 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 3: for an entire run. It is odd that you say 906 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 3: the Nets have been eleven and thirteen over the last 907 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 3: twenty four games. Just shows how bad the heat were 908 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 3: in the entire season that they couldn't steal the sixth seat. 909 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: Very true, they've it's been mediocre. Mckel Bridges is obviously 910 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 3: gonna be exciting as a number one guy to see 911 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 3: what he can do. But yeah, do they have the 912 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 3: firepower behind him? And the size is such a freaking 913 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 3: problem there, you gonna take one. This team fights too hard. 914 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 3: I'll say six ers in five. 915 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: I gotta agree with you, guys. I also have Philly 916 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: in five. I like the next chances to win one 917 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: game at least, But this this Philadelphia team again, this 918 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: is Schumann with this stat they are the third three 919 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,479 Speaker 1: third seed in twenty years that rank in the top 920 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: eight on both sides of the ball. So it's a 921 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: very very good third seed. I mean, this is really 922 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: good when you're top ten on both sides of the ball. 923 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: Their top eight offensively and defensively. And here's a look 924 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: at the numbers as we wrap this one up. 925 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: Okay, they played four years ago, as you said, yeah, forgot, 926 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 3: I guess that was the Karis Lavert series if I'm 927 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 3: remembering correctly. 928 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: Did it also win Phy? 929 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Philly in five. 930 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from everybody out there. What's your 931 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: prediction for the Sixers nets first round series, which starts 932 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 1: this weekend. Let us know in the comment below. Let's 933 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: move over to the other Eastern Conference series. The Cleveland 934 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: Cavaliers will host the New York Knicks in the first 935 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: round of the twenty three NBA Playoffs. The Calves continue 936 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: to build on their previous success with this young core. 937 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: They also have one of the league's best defense. You 938 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: got Donovan Mitchell now in the mix. While the Knicks 939 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: are back in the postseason after a disappointing twenty one 940 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: twenty two season. We can throw up the stats. If 941 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: we have that board right now there, it is. Yeah, 942 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: the best defense. I should have said in the league 943 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: for the Cavaliers when it comes to defensive rating and 944 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: the Knicks no slouch on the offensive side of the ball. 945 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: Little defense versus offense. Here, tass, what are you watching 946 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: for in this highly anticipated first round series? 947 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: Oh, we got a series, baby, It is a coin flip. 948 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 3: Let's start from the Knick side. Even though I am 949 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: the Calves supporter, I want to see what Jalen Brunson 950 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 3: can do as the primary ball handler in the postseason. 951 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: I think even though the Calves are an incredible defense, 952 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 3: they take away the three point line, they take away 953 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 3: the ram, Jalen can work in the mid range, and 954 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 3: I want to see what he can do there because 955 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: the Cavs will allow those shots. That's what happens in 956 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: playoff basketball. And Brunson is just so good and calm 957 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 3: and cool at doing that. Last year in the postseason 958 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: when he was with the MAVs, Luca was out to 959 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: start the series. He had three really good games against 960 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz. He had a forty one in there. 961 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: He could say he averaged thirty two. Now, the numbers 962 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 3: obviously definitely pumped up by that forty one point performance, 963 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 3: but he had three games over twenty points between twenty 964 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 3: and forty one, and I think he can be that 965 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 3: even against a really good caz defense. That's the first 966 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 3: thing I'm watching. He's got to be big, and then 967 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 3: that should trickle down to Julius Randall. As Randall, yes, 968 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 3: hasn't had a good series in the postseason really, I 969 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 3: mean as a premier guy, he had that bad series 970 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 3: and two years ago against the Knicks, I'm sorry against 971 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: the Hawks in that five game series, the mid range 972 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 3: should be open for him too, and that's where he operates, 973 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 3: and if Brunson is taking the pressure off him, trickles 974 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 3: down to Quinton Grimes, who has been absolutely balling recently 975 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 3: as a three point shooter, taking ten threes a game, 976 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,959 Speaker 3: shooting forty eight percent over his last nine. I don't 977 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: like RJ Barrett's chances if we're going all the way 978 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 3: down the offensive keys here against a Cleveland Cavaliers team 979 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 3: that defends the rim so freaking well, it doesn't really 980 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: mesh with RJ's chances, But so those other guys. I 981 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 3: think ken flourish against a very very very good Cavs defense. 982 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 2: What are you watching, TK, I'm interested to see if 983 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 2: Julius Randall plays and how he looks. The guy hasn't 984 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 2: played in two weeks. Fred Katz reported yesterday that Randall 985 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: did some of practice. Yesterday Tom Thibodo said he's doing 986 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: some running, shooting, scripting that sort of thing. I guess 987 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: there are script writers in the NBA, but they're the 988 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: players script surprise to me. But they're going to need him, 989 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: and he's going to need to be up to speed 990 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 2: pretty quickly because I assume he's going to be guarded 991 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 2: by Evan Mobley, which is a tall task for Randall. 992 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 2: He's taken a lot more threes this year, which I 993 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 2: think has certainly helped his efficiency. He's gonna have to 994 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: score over mobily because Jared Allen is going to be 995 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: waiting inside there. I also think clutch time is going 996 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: to be super interesting here. The Knicks can put a 997 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 2: lot more shooting on the floor, so maybe things open 998 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 2: up in the mid range for Brunson. Like you're saying, task, 999 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 2: but I think both teams really struggle in clutch situations 1000 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: and it just comes down to who's going to be 1001 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 2: hotter in the fourth quarters here. Is it going to 1002 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 2: be Brunson or is it going to be Mitchell. They 1003 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: can both get to the line that it can both 1004 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: get hot, but both teams can go through major droughts 1005 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: offensively in the clutch. So Randall health would be huge 1006 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 2: here to give to give the Knicks a second option, 1007 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 2: because you know, at least Darius Garland is out there 1008 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 2: as well with Donovan Mitchell. Garland has really struggled in 1009 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: the clutch this year. It feels like it's going to 1010 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: be on Mitchells shoulders mostly, But you'd rather have a 1011 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: second guy alongside you than not. 1012 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: And we could have some clutch games, if you know, 1013 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: the regular season carries over to the playoffs. Three other 1014 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: four regular season meetings between these two teams within five 1015 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: points in the last five minutes, and the Knicks took 1016 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: two of those three, so we probably will get some 1017 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: other close games. I'm very excited for the Brunson versus 1018 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: Mitchell battle, not only from the narrative perspective. You know, 1019 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: the idea, Oh, Donovan, the New York kid, was he 1020 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna go to New York, goes to Cleveland. They get Brunson. 1021 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: They're happy about that. They have the history from last 1022 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: year's playoffs where Brunton was cooking Mitchell off the bounce 1023 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: at times, in that series, he had a great series 1024 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty five assists of two turnovers in that series two. 1025 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. But the last time we saw these guys 1026 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: in the regular season they went for combined ninety. So 1027 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have some monster Mitchell and Brunson 1028 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: games here. I think, so very excited for that. What 1029 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: about an X factor in this series? He's gonna start 1030 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: a test. 1031 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 3: It is a little too big of a name to 1032 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 3: be an X factor, I guess. But Darius Garland can 1033 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 3: be huge for this or Maps team, for this Cavs team. 1034 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 3: He's had performances throughout this season where donovd Mitchell just says, hey, 1035 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 3: it's your turn. But also when Mitchell goes to the bench, 1036 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 3: Garland just turns it on and Quentin Grimes we'll get 1037 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 3: a lot of minutes on him and that's going to 1038 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 3: be difficult for Darius Garland. But the Calves haven't found 1039 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 3: their haven't found their mo when it comes to clutch time. 1040 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 3: They just haven't found that balance throughout the entire year. 1041 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 3: It's really weird to say that because Donovan Mitchell can 1042 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: take over, but Garland hasn't found his his perfect self, 1043 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: even though he's a great three point shooter, their best 1044 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 3: three point shooter. He can't take over. But it's just 1045 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 3: it's they haven't found the ying and the Yang. Really, 1046 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 3: they haven't been perfect him in Donovan Mitchell. So he 1047 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 3: could be sort of non existent at times, but he 1048 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 3: can be freaking all star. He's had a fifty point 1049 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 3: game this season, and so I think he's Yeah, he's 1050 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 3: that sort of barometer. Will they need all of his points? 1051 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 3: I don't know. The Trip berings up a good point 1052 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 3: about Mobile stopping Julius Randall. I think that's that's gonna 1053 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 3: be a tough matchup for Julius Randall if he's not 1054 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 3: feeling the flow, and well, the Nicks have enough points. 1055 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, Well, clutch time is going to be 1056 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 3: interesting if it comes down to that. But DG Darius Carlin, 1057 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 3: DG the Pg's a lame nickname, but I'm going to 1058 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,479 Speaker 3: be paying attention to him a lot because he could 1059 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 3: be fantastic. Him and MOBILEI you know, combined as the 1060 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 3: sort of the next era here of the Cavs. It's time. 1061 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 3: It's time to take that set. 1062 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Randall not only has this ankle injury, but you 1063 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: slipped it in there, like he's coming off his last 1064 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: playoff series versus the Hawks where he shot like under 1065 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: thirty percent and it was bad, Like he was like 1066 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: nineteen shots a game to get to eighteen points per 1067 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: game in that series. So he's got you know, he 1068 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: wants to obviously bounce back from that, but he's coming 1069 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: in with this bomb ankle and we don't even know 1070 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: sort of his status in this and then at mobiley 1071 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: on him, you know, one of the guys in the 1072 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: running for defensive Player of the Year against a great 1073 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: defensive team in Cleveland, So that's gonna be tough. What 1074 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 1: about you for an X factor? 1075 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 2: I think Mitchell Robinson versus Jared Allen is the swing 1076 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 2: matchup in this series. Mitchell Robinson led the league in 1077 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: offensive rebound rate, he's terror on the glass and clear 1078 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: since the All Star Break twenty ninth, and defensive rebounding 1079 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 2: rate despite the fact that they played two seven footers, 1080 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: So I think that's going to be definitely a matchup 1081 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 2: to watch. Like, whoever is winning the battle between Mitchell 1082 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: Robinson and Jared Allen is getting more possessions for their teams, 1083 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 2: which then allows them to be more efficient offensively, and 1084 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 2: that's probably the way it's going to go. So I 1085 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 2: think Jared Allen can do a good job on Mitchell Robinson. 1086 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: Obviously Allen is an incredible interior defender, but Robinson is 1087 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 2: just NonStop on the glass, and if he's able to 1088 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 2: generate more possessions, that means the Knicks don't have to 1089 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: shoot quite as well. Yeah, so that's a big one 1090 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 2: for me. 1091 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got that in my notes as well. Even Hartenstein, 1092 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: if he comes in as the backup center, he's great 1093 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: on the offensive glass. Josh hart is a wing, is 1094 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: phenomenal offensive rebounder. And despite the Cavs having the best defense, 1095 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: that is the one area that they sort of stink at. 1096 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: Ye. 1097 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: Like they're great at creating turnovers, they're great at protecting 1098 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: the rim, limiting threes, but like ending possessions is where 1099 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: they struggle. So can the Knicks take advantage of that? 1100 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: And that's been a big part of their great offenses. 1101 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: They're one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the league, 1102 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: so those more possessions will possibly help. I got Mitchell 1103 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: Rominson two and I've talked about him all season long, 1104 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: like he's he is vital to this Knicks and their success. 1105 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: Let's get to predictions. Tough Man, Calves, Knicks. A lot 1106 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: of us were saying, this one feels like a seven 1107 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: game series. Which squad you're going with, Cleveland because they're 1108 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: at home or the Knicks. 1109 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,240 Speaker 3: I Leen Calves. I'll give the Knicks their due respect 1110 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: and give it seven games. But I do think Donovan 1111 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,439 Speaker 3: Mitchell has a bounce back playoff performance. He was very 1112 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 3: bad last year by his standards in that one series 1113 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 3: against the Dallas Mavericks shot under forty shot twenty percent 1114 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 3: from three for him, his worst playoff performance, and he 1115 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 3: is a playoff performer. I think he is a big 1116 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 3: game performer. You we kind of skipped over that talking 1117 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 3: about all the supplemental players for the Calves, but this 1118 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 3: dude should be their guy at the end of games 1119 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 3: to not only just at the end of games takeover, 1120 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 3: but just take the pressure off the young Calves in 1121 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 3: Garland and MOBILEI in their first playoff series. I believe 1122 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 3: in him to bounce back. And yeah, I think the 1123 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 3: Knicks have question marks with their injuries. Jared Allen is 1124 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 3: I don't think he's one hundred percent for the Caves either, 1125 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,479 Speaker 3: but I believe in and Donovan Mitchell to bounce back. 1126 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 3: It feels it feels storybook ask It feels like he 1127 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 3: will bounce back after you know, that whole Utah thing 1128 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 3: went sour, just wasn't right last year. I think he'll 1129 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 3: be right this year. 1130 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: So Calves and seven is where you're going? Yep, yep, 1131 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 1: what about you, Trey. 1132 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm on the same pathway as Tasks here 1133 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 2: this one. It's crazy. It feels like a the tightest 1134 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 2: series and the series that we've been previewing the most 1135 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: because it feels like they've been locked into four or 1136 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 2: five for such a long time. Now it's finally here. 1137 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 2: Definitely doesn't feel like the Knicks are an offense first team, 1138 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 2: but they definitely are. I've seen Tom Thibodeaux teams struggle, 1139 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 2: going from an incredible regular season to turning it up 1140 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 2: a notch in the playoff. That doesn't always happen. So 1141 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 2: I think with the Calves having home court, with questions 1142 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 2: about Randall's health coming into the series, I gotta go 1143 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 2: Caves in seven. 1144 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm with you guys. We're gonna see seven 1145 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: seven sevens. I know, like the Randall part, I mean 1146 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: is a huge, huge question mark, Like for them to 1147 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: win the series, he has to not only play, but 1148 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: has to play phenomenally if he's got a bad ankle, 1149 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: and that sucks. Yeah, but the home court advantage. That's 1150 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: enough for me because I think it will go seven, 1151 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: so anything could happen, obviously in a final game, but 1152 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm also ultimately gonna go Cleveland in seven as well. 1153 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 1: What do you guys say, where are the Knicks fans at? 1154 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: Let's hear it. If they're gonna win, are they gonna 1155 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: go in and do it in Cleveland in game seven? 1156 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: Feels like if the Knicks win the series, it will 1157 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: be in six to me, But I think Cleveland's got 1158 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: this one. 1159 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 3: Calves are a great home team. Yeah, there's no doubt 1160 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 3: about that. They do it in a funny way, and 1161 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 3: they got to thirty one and ten, but they always 1162 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 3: come back. They always let the other team take a lead. 1163 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, we'll do it now so Nick can steal 1164 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 3: can steal some games. 1165 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: Let's hear from you guys. Let us know in the 1166 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: comments below. Calves Nicks, how many games who you got 1167 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: as a winner? One more break when we come back, 1168 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: tweeted the night don't go anywhere, all right, back in 1169 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: the factory. Time for tweeting the night. Yeah, tweet O 1170 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,240 Speaker 1: the night. Wow. 1171 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 3: Tweet tweeted the night comes from a heck of a 1172 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 3: Twitter handle, Bully b u ll y Wow. That's so, 1173 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 3: that's pretty good. 1174 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: Hell of a handle. 1175 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, first tweet comes from Bully that tweet. I took 1176 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 3: a vacation about a month ago and have no photos 1177 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 3: of it other than the one night I ate an 1178 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 3: edible and paid sixty five dollars to get into an 1179 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 3: illusions museum. An illusions museum, that's the key here that 1180 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 3: I thought would be full of crazy optical illusions, but 1181 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 3: instead it was just this. If you're following along on YouTube, 1182 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 3: So this optical illusion where there's a sort of a 1183 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 3: a fat head kind of thing of Dwayne Wade on 1184 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 3: a wall and there's a rim as well, and so 1185 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 3: Dwayne Wade is actually like quote unquote blocking a shot, 1186 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 3: and you, as the visitor to this illusions museum, can 1187 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 3: go up and do something to the shot or whatever, 1188 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 3: and you take. 1189 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: It and there's ground though. 1190 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the person is on the ground. That's why it's 1191 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: an illusion. 1192 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you said, Okay, you said, wall I guess 1193 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: it's more. 1194 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 3: No, it's like a fat head on a wall. I 1195 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 3: just mean it's much like the. 1196 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 2: Raptor's baseline logo back in the day. 1197 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah right, so much. 1198 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 3: And so so. Yeah, So Bully went into this museum. 1199 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 3: I saw Wade shooting this ball, and it's pretending to 1200 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 3: block a shot and then great, yeah, great pose sort 1201 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 3: of a squat pose, just pointing to a basketball in 1202 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 3: the second one. Now that brings us to our question, 1203 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 3: and really the tweet of the night from david Son, 1204 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 3: how much would you pay to get an illusionary pick 1205 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 3: of shooting over Dwayne Wade? Because this person paid sixty 1206 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 3: five dollars to to sort of. 1207 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: But they had no idea what they were going into. 1208 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, now we know because Bully Bully did this 1209 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 3: for us. I think Bully also went into this museum 1210 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 3: and pretended to be eaten by a shark or a 1211 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 3: nalligator or something like these. Yeah, these a lot of 1212 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 3: really cool. 1213 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,479 Speaker 1: It looks like crap. They look so bad. 1214 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 3: The one on the ledge is that cool? 1215 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 2: You want me a cast here? 1216 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 3: Why? 1217 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: Well, we got to get Trey Kirby and his full 1218 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: bulls attire into this game. Actually, like a pizzeria Uno 1219 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: or OTP that has a bull's bathroom pizza. 1220 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 2: I could go there, I can go there, pose or 1221 00:58:59,280 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 2: something like that. 1222 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 3: Pizzeri I'm OTP. 1223 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean pizzeria. You know on edipals. You're living 1224 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 2: the life. It's worth sixty five bucks this museum. 1225 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: That's all. 1226 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 2: I would say twenty dollars max. But with inflation, I 1227 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: guess thirty. 1228 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1229 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot for that crappy looking museum. Let's 1230 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,919 Speaker 1: go sixty five. I'm with you, twenty nine ninety nine. Sure, 1231 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: even that feels like a lot. Puts your hid in there. 1232 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: You're like, what, but are I guess are they taking 1233 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: the photos for you? You know? Is that part of a 1234 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: package deal? Like I pay my sixty five bucks and 1235 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: then I go into like these weird rooms and then 1236 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: you take the photos for me? Or was that she 1237 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: said it was by. 1238 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 3: Herself, right, Yes, said it was by yourself. 1239 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: So I guess so you. 1240 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,959 Speaker 2: Get somebody to take the picture. 1241 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the photos come with it? Maybe? 1242 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, with it? Well, I think thirty dollars for 1243 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 3: an Instagram factory. I mean that's essentially what this is. 1244 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 3: You go hang out and take some photos that's fine 1245 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 3: thirty bucks. 1246 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I don't think you take the photo. 1247 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a part of the sixty five dollars fee. 1248 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: If we are to believe this person that was on 1249 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: edibles that they went by themselves, they didn't take those photos. 1250 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're all set up, you can tell. 1251 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you think I mean they have to be, yeah, 1252 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 2: exactly perfect. 1253 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: You'd think that there'd be a little bit more to 1254 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 3: the photo than if it was actually done by the place. 1255 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 3: But maybe it's just a subpart. 1256 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Why would you think that after seeing the drives on 1257 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: the walls. 1258 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 2: And floors, like people calling Dwayne Wade Julius Wade because 1259 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 2: it looks like he has Julius Randall's face instead of 1260 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade's because they made him look incredibly old in 1261 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 2: these photos. Face app Dwayne Wade. 1262 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Where, Well, do we know where this place is? We 1263 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 1: could definitely do a little road trip. 1264 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: Bully is in Nashville, Tennessee. 1265 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: It ain't too far away. There were popping some. 1266 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Edibles and Illusions Museum, Tennessee. 1267 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: That's Dwayne Wade. That's a combo, you know, the face combos. 1268 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 3: We do have Dwayne Wade and Steve frant I think, actually, yeah, 1269 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 3: that's it's got a little old Steve to it. Gallin 1270 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 3: Burg and mattis Stable. 1271 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 2: Gallinburg, Tennessee. Al Right, we could drive too far, but 1272 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 2: according to trip Advisor, I'm looking at one point five. 1273 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: Well, maybe this person shouldn't check. 1274 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 2: It's not great. 1275 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Wow, alright, road trip summer summer road trip. 1276 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 3: I gotta find that on an edible though, a good 1277 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 3: edible trip. She probably had a good time. I think 1278 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 3: she had a sixty five dollars worth of fun. 1279 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: Probably. 1280 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 3: So. 1281 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh, they're opening one in Atlanta. 1282 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: It's exciting Atlanta, like the Scooge McDuck one. 1283 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 3: We're going to this she's going she's mid air. Yeah, 1284 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 3: you probably right skates. They probably took this photo because 1285 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 3: she's not on the ground here. Somebody had to do 1286 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 3: any good snap. 1287 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Now I feel like I'm tripping balls. I'm like trying 1288 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: to figure out is that the corner of the room. 1289 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 3: There and the Yeah, yeah it's painted. 1290 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so she's just a seam. 1291 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 2: She's jumping like eight inches in the air. 1292 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 3: She's barely jumping. 1293 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this one's good. 1294 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 3: That's good. 1295 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, one's worth the big that's true, it looks like 1296 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 2: you're getting eaten by an alligator. Ow, how did they 1297 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 2: do it? 1298 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: Alright, let's go there, guys. Join us tonight seven pm 1299 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Eastern on playback. Hit that link in the show notes. 1300 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: We'll be watching altogether the incredible Bulls Raptors game. Trey 1301 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 1: was holding up his seven, which I like to pretend 1302 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: is combined three pointers made by the two teams tonight. 1303 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: All right, that's what it really stands for. But we'll 1304 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: see you tonight at seven for that game, and then 1305 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow at ten am Eastern. Here from 1306 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: the Classifactory to break down tonight's games, look ahead to 1307 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Friday's playing games, and recap those two seven matchups in 1308 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 1: both conferences, the Grizzlies Lakers and the Celtics Hawks. So busy, busy, 1309 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: see podcast coming at you tomorrow. But enjoy the game 1310 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: tonight and hopefully see you there. Clipper bros. You heard it 1311 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 1: here first. 1312 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. 1313 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember we'll see you later. Alligator, 1314 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 3: We'll also see you at Illusions Museum in Nashville or 1315 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 3: Tennessee or Atlanta. 1316 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Okay, great Embrace the day people,