WEBVTT - A Sight for Sore Eyes. 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.360 Hell I Suck At Dating with De Nouggler and Jared 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:09.800 Haven and I Heard radio podcast. All right, welcome to 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.720 this week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating. We 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.760 have a pretty great episode for you this week. It's 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.480 been a sensation all over the internet, all over the 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:22.680 world probably, but more specifically all from Netflix. It's called 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.360 Love is Blind. And if you haven't listened, if you 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.200 even watched the show by now, you are just you're 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.680 missing out because it's fantastic. Jared, I guess we'll get 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.320 to this in a second, but apparently he hasn't really 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.080 watched much of the show anyways. It's it's a great show. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:40.879 It's it dives into dating and what it's like to 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.560 agree to date someone that you've never even seen in 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.800 person before. It's basically the exact opposite of dating apps, 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.080 which is pretty cool. Um And we have a very 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.400 special guest on this week's episode that was from that show. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.599 Should we tell them who it is right now? Yes? 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:58.120 Can you say the name? It is? Jeannina Belly? Yes? 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.600 Who she's like the most popular contest Sonomy. He was 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.200 my favorite contestant on the show. She was the one who, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.840 when proposed to she proposed back right, Well, yeah, we'll 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.479 come We'll get to that point later on. But yeah, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.440 she proposed, she got proposed to and then proposed back. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.679 Fantastic story, great love story. But then she got left 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.920 at the altar. But then it turns out that they 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.679 got back together. So maybe we can get a little 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.160 more inside and what happened between then and then. But Jared, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.080 so you haven't seen Love. You've seen a couple episodes. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.200 I've seen a couple episodes so well, I've seen like 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.320 bits and pieces. I don't watch dating shows, which is 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.440 obviously the most hypocritical thing I could say, because I 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.600 met my wife on a dating show. But I I 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.600 I don't. I don't watch every episode of Bachelor. Um 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.640 Ashley is obsessed with Love is Blind. It's what the 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.240 number one show on Netflix, and it has been for 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.520 quite some time now. I didn't see Daylight for a 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.320 solid forty eight hours. You just powered through. I powered 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.440 through that I would accorded to it. I would go home, 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.840 I would stay up an extra hour just to finish it, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.680 knowing I've worked early next morning. I thought you meant 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.360 that there was a show called Daylight that I was 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.960 missing out on. As Daylight, you met actual daylight because 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.040 you stayed inside. So what's so addicting about it? Because 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.240 everybody is obsessed with this show? What is what? What 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.240 is it? I think it's just because it's a social experiment. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.120 They got a pretty good cast, they're all pretty different 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.040 in so many different ways, and then they all enter 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.639 into relationships that are all super different. Like, for instance, 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.919 every time Cameron and Lauren were on screen, Calin was 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.119 always like freaking out, like every like every single time 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.960 Cameron came on screen, Kalin had to say, Cameron's so 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.720 so in love with this girl, like every single time, 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.359 like without fail. She was like, Cameron's obsessed with Lauren. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.760 And it's true. It's like you watched their story unfold 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.239 and Cameron is is absolutely upset with Lauren. It's just 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.960 interesting to see that dynamic unfold, especially because he's blite 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.480 and she's black, and they talk about that a lot 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.720 on the show. And then you see like Gianni Ginina 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.320 and Damien Uh, and honestly, I don't I didn't really 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.120 think that their relationship was all that great, Like you 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.720 always see them arguing with each other, you always see 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.240 them so mismatched. Uh. And then who else is there? 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:06.720 There's Barnett, Jessica, Barnett and an Amber love triangle. Barnett 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:12.960 and Amber. They're an interesting couple. And then that's I 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.519 didn't like Jessica. She just she just really seemed Jessica 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.720 and Anthony right, the older woman and the younger man. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.320 And Mark. This name is Anthony, So Marcus his name, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.320 I'm sorry for I'm just hearing Mark Anthony over here. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.360 I couldn't get over. I couldn't get over how like 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.120 critical and judgmental she was consistently being of Mark. Well, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.120 let's set this up for Jared. So, Jared, this is 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.080 a girl who are a woman who was thirty four 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.240 years old, and she ended up having feelings towards someone 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.640 who's twenty four years old, and she was very hung 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.400 up over the fact that he was this much younger. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.240 And I would like to know your guys thoughts on 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.320 would you ever be able to date ten years older 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.520 or younger? I personally don't think it's an issue, but 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.280 she made it seem like it was the end of 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.120 the freaking world. At the end of the world. Well, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:57.720 it's not the end of the world, but it's certainly 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.360 a topic of conversation. But I don't like how people 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.840 just say age is just a number. To a certain extent, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:06.880 I guess I agree with it, but at the same time, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.480 I also don't agree with it. Like you said, for example, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.440 Claire is a new bachelrette, she's thirty eight. Say she 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.279 picked somebody who's twenty three, twenty four, You guys are 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.080 just gonna say age is the number. I mean there 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.920 is a discrepancy just for just like this girl's thirty 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.200 four and then the guys twenty four. I actually know 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.560 who this couple is. This is I saw this. I 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.719 saw her in the pod talking about their age difference, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.440 and sure she has. I mean, it's not the end 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.880 of the world. I think she's probably being dramatic, but 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.400 you have to talk about it. I think my point 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.479 is is there's no like blanket, uh there. You can't 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:40.840 just put a bandit over and be like nope, ten 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.200 a ten years is too much. This twenty four year old, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.080 time and time and time and time again, was like Jessica, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.360 listen to me, like I don't. I'm not a normal 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.240 twenty four year old. I want to get married to you, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.240 I want to have your children. I love you. I'm 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.480 here for you. I want to be the person that 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.479 you need me to be. Like, this dude wasn't just 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.080 a normal twenty four year old. He was all in. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.680 He was more mature than uh any thirty four forty 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.200 four year old in Los Angeles, for instance. Like the 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.360 ten years is a big number, yes, but this kid, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.400 this dude was a kid. This dude is acting like 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.320 the most mature man, I think, more so than a 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:13.720 lot of the guys on the season. Even so, that's 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.960 what was so frustrating with me was she was so 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.479 fixated on them being ten years apart, and she was 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.159 completely overlooking everything that he stood for and was about. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:22.640 And I think that it was just because she was 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.040 still so hung up on that Barnet guy. Well. Her 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.120 her reasoning halfway through the show was that she said 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.080 that she dated a forty one year old somebody who 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.120 was about ten years older than her, and she felt 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.320 like she had to speed through time to be where 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.360 he was and kind of missed out on some things 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.279 in between. And she was fearful of Mark going through 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.239 that as well. But I want to ask a question, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.800 would you guys have if dating older that means you 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.040 would go into um having kids probably somewhat soon after 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.000 that marriage and being a dad, and you would have 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.839 to have a career established. Do you think that you 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.400 would have gone back being like, yeah, I kind of 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.719 wish I was in the party stage a little bit. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.480 Or I think I think at the end of the day, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.320 it's not her to acsion to make for him, And 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:03.320 that's what was so frustrating about it was she was 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.680 projecting what she thought was best onto him, when in 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.120 reality he was sitting there saying, no, I don't want 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.359 any of that. I know what I want, or or 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.520 she was protecting herself because she knew, like Tori said, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.479 she she's been there, she's been twenty four and she 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.680 was like, in five years, you're going to regret it. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:20.920 And I know that you're gonna regret it. And I'm 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.880 not looking out for your interests. I'm looking out for 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:24.880 mine because I know that day is gonna come. I 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.320 don't know. I'm not saying she's right or wrong. I'm 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.560 just being in Cotrain because I like doing that. I 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.560 do think that, of course, if you're twenty four and 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.800 you prove yourself over and over and over again that 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.039 you are ready for relationships and then then of course 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.679 she should look past that and take him for his word. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.799 But I do think that there should be a serious 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.920 conversation about it. But if she's being if she's taking 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.160 out of proportion, then yeah, of course she's being ridiculous. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.440 Similar to Janina and Damien. I don't know if you 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.440 saw this part of the show either, but they get 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.320 up to the altar. Eventually he says I. He says, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.279 I do, and then they asked her the same question 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:01.160 and she says, I do not. Jessica Tomorrow, Yeah, I 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.400 think you're right, essentially rebukes Mark's offered to be her husband. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.240 Let's just give okay. So the concept of the show, 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.720 you're in pods for nine days, right, and you don't 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.440 see each other, and then you fall in love because 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.880 love is blind, and then you see each other and 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.080 then you're you have a month before you decide where 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.200 they're getting marided or not. It's kind of like thirty 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.480 day fiance. So you have the pods. You essentially asked 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.520 that person to marry you in the pods without ever 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.640 seeing them get engaged, and then the next day there's 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.640 a wall that comes up and it's like first reveal 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.680 of your partner that you already agreed to marry. I 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.600 think they all asked them again if they wanted to 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.760 marry them after seeing them, like, hey, do you still 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.200 want to marry me? And they're all like yes, yeah. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.440 So it's like after ten days they hit a point 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.600 where it's okay, do you want to take this to 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.760 the next step? Will you marry me? And they say yes, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.320 Oh my gosh, and then they spend a week in Mexico. Well, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.240 and then they have the grand reveal where they meet 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.280 each other, which is what you're saying, they get down 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.200 on one knee and repropose. So there were a lot 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.680 of times where even Mark index Jessica when they were 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.480 having is too is, he was like, I literally got 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.920 on a knee and reproposed to you, and you saw 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.800 who I was, and so why did you say yes? Then? 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.800 If you were having hesitations right there in that moment, 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:10.640 and I don't think we saw anyone say no at 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.360 that point, right, they all said yes? And I think 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.200 it's also it's but let's be honest, you're you're human, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.400 You're in front of cameras. There's so much pressure on 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.960 these people, you know. I always think you ever seen 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.600 The Night Before with Seth Rogan and Joseph Gordon love 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.800 It at the end of the movie. So throughout the 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.040 movie Joseph Gordon Love It. He's having troubles with his 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.160 girlfriend and they break up, and so at the end 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.400 of the movie, his buddies are like, you should be 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.840 doing like this grand romantic gesture for so what he 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.160 does in front of a party. He goes up and 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.800 he proposes in front of like four hundred of her coworkers, 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.880 and she goes yes, and he's like, oh my god, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.600 that's amazing. And they get off stage and she's like, 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.560 why the hell did you propose? And he's like, you 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.640 just said yes, and she's like, of course I'm going 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.880 to say yes. Like I'm surrounded by all my friends, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.880 like friends and family. I'm not going to embarras like 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.200 I'm not gonna say no. And so I'm curious in 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.319 situations like this, if someone like Jessica just felt the 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.360 pressure of sing yes and she's like, I We'll just 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.080 we'll figure it out later. I'll say yes right now, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.320 We'll figure it out later. And maybe she got to 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:07.960 a point where at the altar she knew that there 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.599 was no going back what makes that difference in the 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.880 Bachelor or Bachelor at It doesn't doesn't. So you think 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:20.760 people have been pressured to say yes names. I mean, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.959 I think there are people. I'm sure you can look 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.600 up stories where people feel like they got engaged far 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.360 to I mean, far too soon. Uh. And I'm also 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.920 not talking about producer pressure. I'm just talking about pressure 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.760 of society. And you know, listen, we we sign ourselves 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.040 up for the show, but we also I don't think 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.000 every realistically think by the end of it we're going 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.559 to be down on one knee or saying yes the proposal. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.440 But I'm I'm you know, like, um, I don't know. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.839 I don't want to name namething. I think there is 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.720 one that's been pretty public as a friend of the podcast, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.679 Taylor Nolan was h was put on the spot with 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.880 Derek and she she's been pretty open about that. I 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.880 think he's been open about it as well. She was like, 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.240 I didn't want to say no in from of all 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:00.760 those people, even though she didn't really want to get 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.720 married at that time. You know, I have the maybe 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.319 way too longer that would have changed things. I'm sure 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.760 if you asked Grant and Lace, they would probably say 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.000 that maybe they got engaged too soon. I'm sure you 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.440 could look at any failed engagement Ben and Lauren, Nick 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.840 and Vanessa, Chris and let's get been on right now? 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:23.080 Christ Crystal. Oh um, yeah, I don't know. It's always awkward. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.959 We have a question. This is such a new concept. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:30.000 But obviously The Bachelor has been going on for a 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.880 long time now. If this were to all start again 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.560 and this show came out and The Bachelor just came out, 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:40.760 which show would intrigue you the most? To go on Bachelor? Still? Yeah? Okay, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.079 but why these I would get a traveler in the 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.520 world in the prospect of not seeing something, were going 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:52.320 to go to Yeah, cool, privileged. We went to Mexico 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.000 for paradise. That's a good point. Some of us even 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.240 want to fuse for paradise. Yes, I did. Wait what, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.679 I went to Bachelor in Paradise, Australia before actually and 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.240 I were together. I didn't know that I went at 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.319 the same time that she did Winter Games. I went 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.800 down there for two weeks, made it through five rows ceremonies, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:15.320 didn't kiss anybody. I somehow miraculously just coasted right by 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.160 as only I can do. Uh. And then I got back, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.200 and then she filmed wunch of games and then obviously 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:25.360 everything changed. But where was I Alfiji were traveling? The 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:31.000 prospect of not seeing someone for ten days, Um oh, 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.480 that's scary. Do that kind of intrigue you. I think 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.199 I'm a pretty good judge of facial structure based off 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.640 of voice alone. I think I do a pretty good 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.360 job of painting a picture in my head of what 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.360 someone looked like, just based off how they sound. Like. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.840 When have you ever detailed like whenever you put effort 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.680 into that? Listen. I'm not saying that I've done it before. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.839 I'm just thinking that, and I would be pretty good 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:54.440 at it. This has zero credibility credibility. I think that 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.079 I would be pretty good at gauging whether i'd be 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.560 physically attracted someone based totally off the voice. I'm just 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.080 saying that. I don't think you're literally saying that if 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.880 a dog barks, you'd be like, yep, that was it. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.800 I think you can't tell. I'm not saying whether they're 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.760 gonna but what breed they're going to be a human, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.760 But I'm going to be able to say whether I 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.640 think they're going to be hot or not. Why not 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.400 we have to test this theory out. If a dog 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.160 barks next zero, If a dog barks, I could be like, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.080 that's a cute dog. No, we should have someone that 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.120 he We should have we should have a producer or 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.680 somebody that works that I hear, and then we will 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.360 record an episode and she will be behind the wall. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:34.920 Actually want I want her to talk to cry and 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.720 then no, no no, no, it doesn't have to be cupid. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.920 When you say you can describe the person, would you 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.520 be able to tell like brunette blonde, but chen cleft nose, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.520 you'd be able to go into a little bit of details. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.480 Do you think you could get a little details? Two pierces, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.560 two piercings on their left ear hip? Oh? Absolutely high. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:59.680 I don't think we'll do We shouldn't do what? Yeah? Yeah, okay, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:04.839 maybe you do sound a little I don't really think 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.079 about it. I don't really want to get it. Would 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:08.839 do this? It sounds fun? All right? Next week on 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.840 half my second day, they we're going to have a 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.200 pot experiment. I would somebody in the next few minutes 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:17.439 to do it here, to do it at the very 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.200 end after we in your view, we know everybody here 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.560 though we don't know. We might have I don't know. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.079 We'll figure it out if we can't do exactly, but 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.800 that the prospect of not seeing someone that you're talking 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.199 to for nine days would scare me as as I'm sorry, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.920 but of course as anybody. I'll just admit it. Physical 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.600 attraction is a huge part of a relationship, and so 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.720 the idea of falling in love with someone and developing 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.960 such strong feelings and not seeing them, because then in 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.960 your head it's like, well, what what if I'm not 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.120 attracted to them? And beauty is an eye the beholder. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.200 I'm not saying like attraction is only one level, right, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.680 Like what I find beautiful is different from what Dean 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.840 finds beautiful, and what you find beautiful is different than 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.160 what actually finds beautiful. But like, what if this person 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.280 isn't Like do you think this would be harder on 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.880 men than females. Um, I think it's the opposite. I 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.520 think it would be harder on females. For instance, Jessica 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.720 and Mark. Jessica Marcus a little shorter than the rest, 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.199 shorter than average, and Jessica saw him and she was like, whoa, 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.319 you're too short, when in reality he was like, look, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.000 I'm five nine, you know, like this is how tall 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.440 I am, and yet she still listening to it. I 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.520 think that there's I think that men are maybe better 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:31.040 at gauging the the physical compatibility of the partner off 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.240 of the voice. So no, do you guys think you 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.480 all men? And I'm pointing to you two are a 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.840 little shallow, but we are, you know, representing representing all 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.120 men on this podcast? Here are you all shallow? A 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.360 little ounce of you you look deep and you're like 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:51.720 a little Everybody is a little shallow, And if you 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:57.000 don't think you are, you're probably maybe a little narcissistic. 0:14:58.360 --> 0:14:59.920 I know I'm being a little harsh. Maybe I don't 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.040 leave that. Well, what I'm saying is like, but from 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:11.560 the shallows, Um, I just I well, what do you think? Yeah? 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:12.960 I agree with Jared. I think you know that on 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.680 that everyone is a little shallow to varying degrees. It 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.640 doesn't matter guy or girl, It just matters person to person. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.960 Maybe on average guys are slightly more shallow, But that 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.040 doesn't mean that women aren't shallow, you know what I mean. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.560 Here's what I will say about this little love is 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.920 Blind experiment. I do find that once I get to 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.560 know someone, they become either more or less physically attractive, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.520 like attractive in my eyes. They you know, like when 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.359 when I get to meet someone who's very, very, very attractive, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.800 but their personality sucks, they become less and less attractive 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.520 to me. And on the flip side of that, I 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.200 met Kyle Kylin looks the exact same as the day 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:50.440 that I met her, but I'm more attracted to her 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.960 now than I was back then. And actually, there you go. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.200 So there is something to be said about that. So 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.720 maybe they already have in the back of their head 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.480 this physical attraction with them just based on their personality. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.360 I don't know. Anyways, Well, we're gonna find out because 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.880 Janina is going to come and we are going to 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.120 ask her some questions. Get to the root of all 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.120 of these questions. Hopefully that's gonna come up next. You're 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.880 not gonna want to miss it. Love is Blind. Janina 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.400 Jibelly is going to be joining us. Stay tuned for that. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.360 It's Janina from Love and Sight, a new I Heart 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.640 Radio podcast all about the TV show Love Is Blind? 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.880 Are you addicted to Love is Blind? We are here 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.280 to satisfy all your Love is Blind Cravings and if 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.840 you haven't watched yet, join us everywhere you listen to 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.120 podcasts for everything you need to know. Do you want 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.480 to find out how Damian and I got back together? Yep, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.880 I'm the girl that got left at the altar. The 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.480 Love is Blind cast will join us telling us things 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.960 they have never revealed, and you get all the behind 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.800 the scenes, all the details, all the never seen footage, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:04.080 and the ultimate question, can an experiment like this actually work? 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.639 Is love truly Blind? And I Heart Radio is bringing 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:12.040 you every little nugget love Insight available now everywhere you 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:18.200 listen to podcasts. All right, and we are back with 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:23.080 Janina Jibelli from Love is Blind. Everyone has been obsessing 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.480 about this show lately, right, Hello, I guess it's the 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.520 number one show on Netflix. Genie, and thank you for coming. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.679 And Genie that I'm sure if you're listening to this, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.399 you probably are, you know, because she's one of your 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.400 favorite from the show. You are one of the fan 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.640 favorites by by a lot. I think, thank you. Yes, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.159 i think I'm in the top three. Yeah, I'm on 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:41.920 to put you on that. Beto still absolutely how is 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.040 everything going? So she's on the show Love is Blind. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.280 We talked a little bit at it a little bit 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.720 at the top of the podcast. I've seen every episode, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.679 just finished it last night. But actually I have some 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.919 questions for you. But before we do that, can you 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.920 just tell us a little bit about how you ended 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.880 up on Love Is Blind? Yeah, of course. Um. So, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.879 I was actually at a bar with a couple of 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.359 my girlfriends and I was telling them how there are 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.520 no more men for me in the city. And at 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.760 that moment, my phone let up and it was this 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.359 d M on Instagram from this woman that was casting, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.960 and I picked up the phone right there, and then 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.520 she told me that I could potentially fall in love 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.199 with someone without meeting them, and then you could have 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.000 a wedding. And I was like, this is weird and 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.919 this is never gonna happen, but your timing is actually 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.399 perfect because I had just given up all hope and 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.639 I'm a little weird, so maybe it works out. And 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.440 I never thought I was going to actually get picked 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.800 to go through the process, but all and behold, I'm 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.399 here sitting with you guys and talking about me right now. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.000 And this was as this was like two years ago, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.680 right because that films like a year and a half 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.280 plus a year and a half ago. Yeah, so you know, 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.479 there was this piece of my life that was just 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.000 out there in the universe and not knowing whether it 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.760 was going to come out or what was going to 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.840