1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: What day is it? 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Where are we hi from the home office, back from London. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: It is the Bark Tank, presented to you by Sugardale. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: My name is ANDREWS Csiliano. We thank you for liking, subscribing, sharing, 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: however you're consuming this podcast an audio or video form, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: loving it as much as we love doing it. 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: It was a tough one. I mean, what do you 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: want me to say? 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: It is a long way to go to lose a 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: game the way the Browns did. Like there's no good 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: feeling after a loss, whether it's at Huntington bank Field 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: and you have to jump into your car and drive home, 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: or whether it's in His Majesty's United Kingdom of Great 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Britain and Northern Ireland and you have to hop on 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: a plane and fly all the way back across the 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: Atlantic and come back home. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: When you lose like that, it's tough. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: When you give up a touchdown with under thirty seconds 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: to go and you allow the Vikings to march down 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: the field when you expect the defense, the number one 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: defense of the NFL, coming in to get off the field. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: It's tough. 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: We felt it as much as you did, and I 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: know that I've used that line before. We felt it 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: as much as you did. We meeting Nathan Gerrod, all 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: of us get a up in the booth because I 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: was super confident. Now I'm a Sunday morning optimist, said 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: this a thousand times for years, going back to the 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: red Zone channel. 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: Or now I call my old man of the way 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: to work. 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: My mom always picks up the line as well at home, 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: Hi Mom, and I say, here's how we're going. 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: To win today. 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: I was beyond confident yesterday with the Vikings dound three 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: starters on the offensive line. I thought the Browns d 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: line would force turnovers, and there were two turnovers. You 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: win the turnover margin and battle to nothing. You get 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: two different running backs. The fumble well done, and I 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: knew Dylan Gabriel would play well, new quin Sewn would 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: run well. In the end, the Browns just could close 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: out the game. And that is why this one is 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: as disappointing a loss as I can remember. 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: No week one gut punch. 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: This one, for a number of reasons, feels a little 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: bit different because of what it would lead you to. 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: I want to go back to the Charger game a 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: year ago. Could you go there mentally, for a second. 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: Remember the Browns had just come off the huge win 50 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: over the Ravens. They were feeling good about themselves. People 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: still didn't know who and what the Chargers were. To 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I wasn't sure that I was 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: a believer that this was a good enough team, the Chargers, 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: that is, to make the postseason. 55 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: And I thought, look, if the. 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Browns can beat the Chargers, you then go into the 57 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: bye and then you head to New Orleans against the 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: team at that point which was reeling and likely to 59 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: fire its head coach, and you're like, there's a path here. 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: And this game felt the same way. If the Browns 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: had won this game. Look, Dylan Gabriel played well, quinchn 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: ran well. If they had won this game, then you 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: come back home, you feel good about yourselves. Yeah we 64 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: have your sleep deprived. Yeah, big deal. You go to 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: the Steelers next week, look at the rest of the division, 66 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: and we'll do that a little bit later in the show. 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: By the way, the Hall of Famer Joe Thomas said 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: to join us in a little bit. I should have 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: said that right at the top. Andrew be a broadcaster, 70 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: The Hall of Famer, the Great Joe Thomas joins us 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: coming up shortly. If you'd won this game, then you 72 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: go to Pittsburgh kind of feeling the same way. Look 73 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: at the Ravens, look at the Bengals. I mean, look, 74 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: win it, get to three and three, find a way 75 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and everything is great. 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Again three and three is not great. But you hear 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: me right, Alas it didn't happen, all right. 78 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: So Kevin Stefanski has given his Monday press conference after 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: getting back home. Full disclosure, The team charter landed shortly 80 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: after one am at Hopkins. It's a long way to 81 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: get back to the airport from Tottenham about one am. 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: Players are not in on Monday, back to work coming 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: up on Wednesday. Kevin Stefanski handed out the flowers to 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: quinch On Judkins, who had the first one hundred yard 85 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: rushing game for a Browns running back. I should have 86 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: said the start of the game. I had it on 87 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: my boards, I had it ready the note the first 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: since anybody Jerome Ford in the big comeback victory in 89 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three on the road in Baltimore. 90 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: Remember that one. Greg Newsom had a picked six. 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: The Chief had that ridiculous breaking tackles run after the 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: catch on the final drive in the fourth quarter leading 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: to the Dustin Hopkins field goal. It was the last 94 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: game Deshaun Watson played before he najured his shoulder. Remember 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: he had the ankle injury in that game as well. 96 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: That was the last one hundred yard game. Quinchhn also 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: had like a fifty yard touchdown called back on a 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: legitive been holding call Isaiah Bond That was a hold. 99 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: But Quincheon, guys, is the real deal. Nathan put him 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: in the same sentences as Nicholas Jamal Chubb in the broadcast. 101 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: We're not there yet. I'm not there yet. But dude, 102 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: he runs a power He runs it angry. You get 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: to that edge, he can turn the corner, he can turn. 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: On the jets. 105 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: He already has three rushes of over thirty yards in 106 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: four games, and he had the long one callback, So 107 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: really it's four. Devon Chand last year had four of 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: those in his first five games. So that's the most 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: ever for a rookie. Honestly, Quinn Sewn basically tied it, 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: but that one was called back. Harold Fannen caught his 111 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: first career touchdown for Gabriel. It was his second and 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: then later his third to David Nijoku. 113 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: MALIEK. 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Collins played his tail off. He had two sacks. He 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: had five pressures. He has three and a half sacks 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: in his career. I'm sorry on the season. Basically, he's 117 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: guaranteed five every year. Look at him throughout his NFL 118 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: career as he's bounced around. He is a veteran inside 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: pass rusher for hire. He was also disrupted in the 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: run game as well. Really happy to see David Nijoku 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: getting the end zone. He always is the loudest man 122 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: in the room. He always is a little bit of 123 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: a court jester around the building and on the bus. 124 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: He enjoyed himself this week, and I mean this in 125 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: only the most positive and innocent way. He was blasting 126 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: some music when we landed early Thursday morning in London. 127 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: He never got jet lag. 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. Never got jet lag. He 129 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: had a lot of. 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: People there to watch the game. Thought it was very 131 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: very cool that David got in the end zone. He's 132 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: always working hard in the run game. It's good to 133 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: see him get a little payoff there and a little 134 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: taste of the end zone and a celebration. Was absolutely fantastic. 135 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: Can We talked about the stadium a little bit, so 136 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: this was my first game in London. For years, I 137 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: couldn't go. I was always in the studio doing the 138 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: Red Zone channel whenever the Rams went, and I worked 139 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: for the Rams for a while. Whenever they went, I 140 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: couldn't go. So I'd never been to a game in London. 141 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: Amazing experience. That stadium. Tottenham Hot Spurs Stadium is unbelievable. 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: Spoke to the commissioner, Roger Goodell on the pregame show 143 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio network, and he 144 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: pointed out and others had pointed out to me earlier 145 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: on Sunday about how whether it be the Bills or 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: the Commanders or the Bears or whomever, a lot of 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: teams have used that stadium, especially the home locker room. 148 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: Brown's with the home team, that locker room unlike anything 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: you've ever seen as a model as they look to 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: build their new facilities. 151 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: What a cool stadium. 152 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: It's the first stadium in London, first stadium outside the 153 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: NFL that was built specifically. 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: With the NFL in mind. 155 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: The Spurs play, They're an EPL team North London but 156 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: when they built and designed their new stadium on High Road, 157 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: they did so in conjunction with the NFL so that 158 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: they can seamless converted to an NFL facility with NFL 159 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: sized locker rooms and the such. They did a fantastic job. 160 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: The environment was really cool. Jason Sideikis was there and 161 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm who plays coach Beard. I'm drawing a blank. They 162 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: were both down there on the sideline before the game. 163 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: He had like Oasis singalongs, don't look back in Anger, 164 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: and that's how I'm kind of viewing the entire game. 165 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm looking back, don't look back at Anger, Andrew. That 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: was going on during the TV breaks. 167 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: It was really cool. 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: There are a lot of Vikings fans there, to be fair, 169 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: they played there a year ago. It's three out of 170 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: four years for them in London. They had been in 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: Ireland the previous week. So it was a Browns home 172 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: game and Jeff Shreve was there doing the public address 173 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: announcing as he does at home for us, and you 174 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: had the dog Pound Captain the Hoff. Joe Thomas broke 175 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: that guitar. We'll ask him about that coming up in 176 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: a second, but he had all the dignitaries there and 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: it really was a cool environment. I don't get a 178 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: cut of a ticket sales, but next time we go 179 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: over there, you guys really should go. I know it's expensive, 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: I know it's a once in a lifetime kind of thing. 181 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: I know we all have expenses in our life where 182 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: maybe this isn't what you want to spend your money on. 183 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: But if you have the opportunity, go do it. The 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: Saturday evening, Brown's backers get together at the Greenwood. 185 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: Just north of the River Thamps. 186 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: I did not get a chance to go, but I 187 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: went to a different event the previous night. Browns fans 188 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: all over town. It wasn't just Joe that was there. 189 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: Hawk was there, Andrew Hawkins, Gary Barnage was there. 190 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: Who else? 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden was there. 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: All these great Brown's alumni there to spread the love 193 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: and internationally, the Browns backers and all the Browns fans. 194 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: It was a coming together kind of reunion weekend. And yeah, 195 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: you wish you had a win out of it. You don't, 196 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: but at the same time, it really felt good and 197 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: it was an overall great experience or the loss notwithstanding 198 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: real quick thought here about Dylan Gabriel, he played well. 199 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: And if you do a Twitter search here on the 200 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: football Cognizanti. As my friend Dan Hansis likes to say, 201 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: the people that know ball, let's put it that way, 202 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: they all agreed. 203 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel played a really good game. The moment was 204 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: not too big for him. 205 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: Now what happened on the final third down, the miscommunication 206 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: with Jerry Judy or Isaiah Man. 207 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. 208 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, But watch him hold the safety and hit Najoku 209 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: for the touchdown. Watch him march the Browns down the 210 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: field and hit Harold Fannin for. 211 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: That first touchdown. 212 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: Watch him step up in the pocket and when the 213 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: middle of the field opens up, be able to use 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: his legs to pick up legitimate yardage. The three for 215 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: fifteen on third down is not good after especially considering 216 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: how good he was on third down in the preseason. 217 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: But you can see it, right, you can see it 218 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: something to build on. And with Jack Conklin back, and boy, 219 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: it was good to have Jack Conklin back. Yeah, I 220 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: see something here to build on. Truly, truly see something 221 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: here to build on. You hope to work Cam Robinson 222 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: in at left tackle. It was rough listen. He got 223 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: to Cleveland late Tuesday night. Yep, you got a passport, 224 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Get on the plane, let's go. He was up and 225 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: he was active. He rotated in and out early with 226 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: Katie Leviston. Those penalties didn't help. The Shelby Harris personal 227 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: foul didn't help. Go back and look at the tape though, 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: Shelby's legs getting twisted, not making the excuse, but that 229 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: fifteen yards didn't help. And yes, I'm with you, and 230 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: I called that out during the broadcast. They should have 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: called taunting on Justin Jefferson. Now both can be true. 232 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 2: And I said this to Nathan during the broadcast. I 233 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: don't think that should be taunting. I know, but by 234 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: the letter of the law this year, with the increased 235 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: emphasis on taunting penalties that in my opinion could have 236 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: been should have been called. 237 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: That's just me. 238 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: And you have the left tackle moved. Kevin said that 239 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: on Monday, said in the moment, yes, but it didn't matter. 240 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: In other words, you can't rely on the flag to 241 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: win the game. It didn't matter. It didn't matter, but 242 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: you know it did matter. Joe Thomas matters. He too 243 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: is back from London, and I have no doubt that 244 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: Joe Thomas is feeling. He's feeling just amazing today. Thanks 245 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: for joining the Bark Tank, buddy. 246 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: How are you. 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: I'm doing well. It's good to see you again here 248 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: now that we're back in the States. After being able 249 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: to spend a few moments together over in London, breaking 250 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: some bread and enjoying some brotherhood. 251 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: It was amazing. Always enjoy the time. It was good 252 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: to see it. Always good to be back. I feel 253 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: like you're a man of the people, both domestically and internationally, 254 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: as I was saying before in the opening part of 255 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: the show. And no matter where we went, whether it's 256 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: like an official or unofficial Browns function or just dudes 257 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: hanging in the street with a pint of Guinness, everybody 258 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: recognized the Hoff. 259 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: That was cool. 260 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: It provided a lot of free guinnesses on my trip 261 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: in London. And the one thing about Browns fans is 262 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: they are loyal, they are passionate, and they want to 263 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: hang out and have a beer together. So it was 264 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: a match made in having overseas three four days for 265 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: me over in London, and I had an amazing time, 266 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: and it was also really fun being able to have 267 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: a nice dinner with you. I think we had one 268 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: of the best steaks I've ever had, a beautiful experience 269 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: at Pratt and it was all in all a really 270 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: awesome trip, I think, other than the outcome, yeah, which 271 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: other than that, it seems that was a big bar 272 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: of it. 273 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: By other than that, it was a great trip. 274 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: So because you mentioned it and I mentioned it off 275 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: the aor to young Gabriel Puy this fine broadcast here. 276 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: You mentioned the steak because you're the cattle man here. 277 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: What kind of hunk of meat was it? Because that 278 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: thing took up half the table? Could you put it 279 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: into proper terms? 280 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: So I'm not sure the breed If I had to guess, 281 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: it'd be like some massive Herford or maybe even like 282 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: a ki Anina, which is the largest breed of cattle 283 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: on earth, famous for the mistake of Florentina. If you 284 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 4: ever go to Italy, they have those big famous ribbis 285 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: that are like the size of a manhole cover. 286 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: And this was a similar type steak. 287 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: And I think usually you get a fifteen hundred pounds 288 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: steer and that's what your steaks are made of. This 289 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: had to be twenty two hundred pounds when it met 290 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: its dem eyes, because. 291 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: Between the three of us we barely were. 292 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: Able to eat one ribbi and it was easily double 293 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: the size of any ribbi that I think I've ever 294 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: eaten before. And they definitely rolled us out of there. 295 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: And I don't think I ate the next day after. 296 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: No, I did credibly feast. I didn't have breakfast. I 297 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: did not eat the next day until dinner. I hand 298 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: hand up, that's the truth. Did not eat the next 299 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: day until dinner. And now granted there was also like 300 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: we had pigeon skewers and there were like muscles on toast. 301 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like we're flexing here in the meal. 302 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: We had a great time, and a great time was 303 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: had by all up until the game. 304 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Tottenham was great. 305 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: You and Rondy were great up on up on the 306 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: big screen there. The facility is amazing. I was blown 307 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: away by Tottenham and the entire experience. There is the 308 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: first stadium that was building collaboration with the NFL for 309 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: a true NFL experience that checked every box. The Browns 310 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: locker room, the entertainment. It was good to have Jeff 311 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Shreeve there, our PA announcer, and that big freighter horn, 312 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: that thing on third down and you as the dog 313 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: Pound Captain. Man, How was that? 314 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: That was awesome? That was really cool. 315 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: I've got to be a dog Pound captain once here 316 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: in Cleveland, and that was really incredibly special. But it 317 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: was a bit of a surprise for me because when 318 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: we got to London it was not really part of 319 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: the plan. I think the Browns had thought, because they're 320 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: the home team, that we could do the dog Pound 321 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: Captain and the guitar smash, but they didn't let the 322 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: cat out of the bag until I was there, and 323 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: I think we were able to figure out if it 324 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: was going to work within my schedule of doing the 325 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: sideline work with Rende Barber and then doing some NFL 326 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: Network hits. So I'm really happy that it worked out 327 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: because it was definitely one of the highlights for me 328 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: of my post playing career. 329 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: We were able to get out there in front. 330 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: Of the fans on foreign so foreign soil, wearing my 331 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: little Cabby hat and smashing that guitar and here in 332 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: the crowd's response. It gave me those feelings that I 333 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: think you only get when you're a player and you're 334 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: walking out of that tunnel and you're going on to 335 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: the field as a gladiator. So it definitely kind of 336 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: scratched some of those emotions and it gave me those 337 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: tingles that I used to get when I was going 338 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: out on that field with my helmet, with my orange helmet, 339 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: to go play a game. 340 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome, And I did not know that. 341 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: I didn't well, I knew you would have loved it, yes, 342 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: but I didn't know that it it brought that response out, 343 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: and to be honest with you, I didn't know you're 344 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: going to do it. So Saturday evening, I was in 345 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: a long uber ride back out to the grove where 346 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: the Browns were staying, as you know, which is like 347 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: an hour away from the city, with a we'll call 348 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: me a senior Browns official, and he said to me, well, 349 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: who do you think's going to be the dog Pound Captain? 350 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: I assumed he knew, Maybe he didn't know, or maybe 351 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: he did know, maybe he was quizzing me. And I 352 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: thought about it for a little bit and I started 353 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 2: going through the list of all the former Browns who 354 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: were in town. It was a great list. It was 355 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: Joe Hayden, it was our boy Hawk, it was Gary Barnage. 356 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: It was a cool list, and I said. 357 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: You know what, Joe's final game for those who don't know, 358 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: your final game where you got hurt was the week 359 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: before the twenty seventeen game at Twickenham, And I said, 360 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: late at night in that uber, I said, you know, 361 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: it would be pretty cool to bring it all back 362 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: full circle now that we're here in London again. 363 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: That would be a pretty cool moment. 364 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't even think about that until you 365 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: just mentioned it. Obviously, I knew that I missed that 366 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 4: game in twenty seventeen, but it's pretty neat to think 367 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: about it now that it has come full circle, there 368 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 4: being after ten and a half years not missing a 369 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: single play. Of course, they got hurt against the Tennessee Titans. 370 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: Next week. The team and my whole family, which had 371 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: already planned the trip to London, travel over across the 372 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: seas that played the Vikings in Twickenham, and I was 373 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 4: in a hospital bed watching the game. But so yeah, 374 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 4: to have a triumphant return with a healthy elbow and 375 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: to be able to go out there with the guitar 376 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: smash is an awesome moment. And the Browns did a 377 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: great job capturing some really cool pictures. So once I 378 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: get back to Wisconsin tonight and I get a chance 379 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: to see the family and show them that video, I 380 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: know they're going to be jazz because I'm not sure 381 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: if you get to see that when you watch the 382 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: TV broadcast, I doubt it. 383 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: I think it's just within the stadium. 384 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: So I haven't really had a chance to talk with 385 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: them because of the time change yet, and so I 386 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: don't even know if they know that I was the 387 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 4: dog Pod Captain. But I did keep the smashed guitar. 388 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: I was able to fit it into my bag. 389 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: So I'll be bringing that home and maybe i'd toss 390 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: that on the table and that's my welcome moment that Hey, 391 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: by the way, guys, I did something pretty cool this weekend. 392 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: You may not have heard about. 393 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: Wait, you got that through customs. Okay, they stopped the. 394 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: Even check my bag. It's still in there, so I'm 395 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: not sure what they thought kind of been. But it flew. 396 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: It was a weapon, Okay, it could be a weapon. 397 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: I'm glad they didn't pull it from my bag or 398 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: pulled me aside for any extra cavity searches. 399 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: Good, all right, we got that, We got we got 400 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: that back into the country. The game here, like, are 401 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: you a stunned as Nathan and I were upstairs that 402 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: the defense couldn't get off the field and the game. 403 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: That was shocked. 404 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: And I mean, if you're the Browns going into that 405 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: game saying, hey, Dylan Gabriel's going to play mostly mistake 406 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: free football. 407 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: They're going to have the lead. 408 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter, which just a couple of minutes 409 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: left in the game, and it's all about just getting 410 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: the defense to stop Carson Wentz from going the length 411 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: of the field and scoring a touchdown. I would say 412 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: we're going to be in pretty good shape. 413 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is the NFL. 414 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: Things happened Carson Wentz, even though he is erratic he 415 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: turns the football over a lot, he can still throw 416 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: the ball. 417 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: He still got a big. 418 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 4: Arm, he's got a lot of experience, and he still 419 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: got Justin Jefferson over there. And I think when you 420 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 4: have a weapon like that at receiver and you got 421 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: a quarterback that can throw it, and it's a situation where, hey, 422 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: if you throw an interception, it doesn't matter, right, the 423 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 4: game's already over. 424 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: What we need is a touchdown. 425 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 4: You can be a little bit riskier in your decision 426 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: making you're going to get the best version of that offense. 427 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: And of course Jordan Addison was out there. He's another 428 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 4: great weapon. I think he was the guy that caught 429 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: the game winning touchdown on the sideline. And it's disappointing 430 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: because if there was one thing that you felt like 431 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: you could count on the entire season, it was that defense. 432 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: It was the pass rush, and then it was the 433 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: coverage with our two great cornerbacks, and it didn't work 434 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: out in that last drive. 435 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: And I think that's probably. 436 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 4: Overwhelmingly the most disappointing moment coming out of London, because 437 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: you feel like your rookie quarterback in his very first 438 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: experience in the NFL played well enough to win and 439 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: your defense wasn't able to close. 440 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: It out for you. 441 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is stunning. 442 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: And on all weekend I told people pretty confidently like 443 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: they're going to win this game, not saying like, you know, 444 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: there's no way they're going to lose this game. Of course, 445 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: there's always a way, but I thought the Bronze defense 446 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: would get to Carson Wentz consistently and that Dylan Gabriel 447 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: would meet the moment I figure there might be a turnover. 448 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: I mean Brian Flores against a rookie that generally that 449 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: would have been okay, but he didn't. He played turnover 450 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: free football big picture with the quarterback, because you got 451 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: to take the next step, and the next step is 452 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. Forget about the atmosphere and Mike Tomlin and 453 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: everything that defense brings. Just how the heck do you 454 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: get the ball to a wide receiver consistently. That's that's 455 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: the most fuddling thing because if you consistently look, Harold 456 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: Fan and David Djoko are doing their thing the back 457 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: side of the backfield, whether they're in checkdowns, So you 458 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: got to be able to stretch the field and the 459 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: detection was better. Certainly it helped to have Jack back 460 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: in a huge way. But they're still not stretching the field. 461 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 4: Joe, Yeah, we're still not throwing the ball down the 462 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 4: field at all. So at the very least, just taking 463 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 4: some shots, just getting those safeties to back up a 464 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: little bit. 465 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we've got a speedster. 466 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 4: With Isaiah Bond. We feel like Jerry Judy's a good 467 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: weapon down the field. Even if you don't complete those passes, 468 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: you've got to take a few chances. You've got to 469 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: make the defense a little bit nervous, get them to 470 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: back up a little bit because they are concerned about 471 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: getting balls thrown over their heads. And I think you 472 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: have to try to start manufacturing some of these off 473 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: of play action. Dylan Gabriel, for as great of a 474 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: job that he did in this game, one of the 475 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: things that he is is he's. 476 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: A risk averse quarterback. 477 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: He's a little conservative, So if it's not there, he's 478 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: not going to try to fit it into a tight window. 479 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: And so I think as he starts becoming a little 480 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: bit more comfortable, you just need to start taking some 481 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: shots down the field, even if it means incompletions or 482 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 4: maybe a long turnover, because the offense has not been 483 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 4: able to get the ball down the field and make 484 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 4: any big explosive plays. And it's too hard in the 485 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: NFL to go the long hard way all the time 486 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: running it and with short dump off type passes. So 487 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: if you look at the run game, the duo play, 488 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: which is you know, one of everybody's favorite plays, is 489 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: just double teams across the front and then let the 490 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: running back kind of run downhill at the A gap 491 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 4: and then jump cut and find his way and find 492 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: a little hole. That's ben quin John's best play. He 493 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 4: also runs the outside zone very well on the inside zone, 494 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 4: and so those running game combinations fit really well with 495 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: some different play action protections to be able to get 496 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: those speedsters on the outside time to get down the 497 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: field where you're not putting a lot of pressure on 498 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: your tackles in traditional drop back pass pro. And so 499 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: I think what you're going to see against the Steelers 500 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: is them taking a few more of those shots that 501 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: are just called shots off of play action, off of 502 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: your outside zone play action, off of the duo type 503 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: play action, to be able to just threaten the defense 504 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: a little bit and then just try to manufacture a 505 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: few deep balls to get some of those big home 506 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 4: run plays that this offense has just been clearly missing. 507 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Quinn Shown's running it. Man. 508 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: That kid is is fun to watch e even on 509 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: because some people say, well, maybe he doesn't have the 510 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: breakaway finishing speed. Even on the one that got called back, 511 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: no one caught him. He got to the pilot and 512 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: unfortunately that one did not count. But against the first 513 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: this blows me away. The first one hundred yard game 514 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: for a Browns running back since Jerome Ford in twenty 515 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: twenty three, in that game in Baltimore of all weeks, 516 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: all right, real quick, last thirty seconds you ever played 517 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: to catch? So Bo evidently gave you the nickname Hoff. 518 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: The Hoff Full disclosure. A couple of years ago, and 519 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: I first started listening to CBD before I was truly 520 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: part of the family as opposed to just day longtime listener, 521 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: first time caller, I was like, who. 522 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: The hell are they talking about it? 523 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, I got it, I got it, 524 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: I got it? 525 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: Makes sense? 526 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: Does anyone else I've never asked you this before? 527 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Does anyone else call you Hoff? 528 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: So I hear it a lot in Cleveland. 529 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: I was in Z It comes from the show. 530 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: It comes from the show. It comes from Zee and Bow. 531 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 3: They really started that. 532 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: But it's interesting because I've got a group of friends 533 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: that I work out with back in Wisconsin that I 534 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: played college ball with that I see all the time 535 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: there and they don't watch Cleveland Brown's Day. They're not 536 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 4: Browns fans, you know, but they actually have started calling 537 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 4: me the Hoff. And it's interesting as some of my 538 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: friends in Wisconsin who call me the Hoff, and then 539 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: my friends in Cleveland have started to like meet and 540 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: they hear each other calling me that. I think it's 541 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: kind of a funny moment because both of them are like, 542 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: wait a minute, we didn't know that that belongs to us. 543 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: We were yeah, yeah, no, no, no, you're not allowed to 544 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: call them that. That's what we call them. 545 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 4: But I've obviously I've enjoyed that, you know, with the 546 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: conversations and the laughter that we have when we're on 547 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: CBD or just hanging out, you know, like when we 548 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: were in London, and then obviously with my beef company, 549 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame Beef being haff just it's a perfect 550 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: fit and it's something that even in tough times, we 551 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: can have some giggle about, which is something that you 552 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: need when your football team is not living up to 553 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: your hope or your expectations. 554 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: He is the founder and CEO, the purveyor, the cattleman. 555 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: He's like Coster and Yellowstone with his arm up on 556 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: a fence, staring into the distance with this, you know, this, 557 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: this look of deep thought on his face. He is 558 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: the hoff from Hall of Fame Beef, like that, this 559 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: is your first stop in the bark tank man. I 560 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: appreciate you it making time on a jet lagged schedule. 561 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: My pleasure. Thanks for having me on, Andrew. 562 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: It's great to see and we'll see you soon here 563 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 4: I'm sure in Cleveland or somewhere else at a Browns 564 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 4: road game. 565 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Or a restaurant where we are the whole menu. 566 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: Let's do it to Oh baby, let's do that again. 567 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Love my man, Joe Thomas. We had a good time there. 568 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: Hey wait a minute, why is Andrew wearing something different 569 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: if you're watching the video portion of this show, Because 570 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: this is a bark Tank bus. So we're doing what 571 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: Sizzlin Now presented by Sugardale The Sugarnow What's Sizzlin Around 572 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: the AFC North Full disclosure. 573 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: When we first recorded this episode on. 574 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Monday, we talked about the possibility of Zach Taylor benching 575 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: Jake Browning. But we need to come into the bark 576 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: Tank bonus because breaking news, the Browns just traded Joe. 577 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: Flacco to the Bengals. It's this thing on it is. 578 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: Look, I've been surprised before, I've been stunned before. 579 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: This is all of the above. Couple of things. Listen. 580 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 2: Number one, I'm happy for Joe Flacco that he's going 581 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: to get evidently a chance to play again. 582 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I love Joe Flacco. 583 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: I truly do the person the quarterback. I love him 584 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty three. We'll always have twenty twenty three 585 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: near and dear to my heart. So I'm happy for Joe. 586 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: Good that the Browns have yet another fifth round pick. 587 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: They traded pick it for five. They traded Joe Flack 588 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: Go for a five. 589 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of fives. 590 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: Coming up in the twenty twenty six draft. This one 591 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: is interesting. I mean to be candid here because you're 592 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: giving the Bengals a new shot at life. It's a 593 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: two to three team that is obviously reeling from the 594 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: loss of Joe Burrow. I don't know how this one's 595 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: gonna play out, Jamar T. 596 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Higgins. 597 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: They certainly have some weapons there. The Bengals also have 598 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: protection issues, and they have for a number of years. Obviously, 599 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: it's well documented how much of a beating Joe Burrow 600 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: was taking behind that line. Joe Flacco doesn't have the 601 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: mobility that he had even in twenty twenty three. We 602 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: saw that the first four weeks of the season with 603 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: the Browns. Can they protect Joe Flacco in Cincinnati? I 604 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: don't know the answer. If they can, they've got some 605 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: weapons he can sling it. It could get interesting. Yes, 606 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: there's the obvious question, are you helping out a division rival? 607 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Is that fifth round pick truly worth it? I don't know. 608 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. It'll be interesting to see how this 609 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: one turns out. I'd always like to push back, by 610 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: the way, against the broadcaster cliche it'll be interesting. Well, 611 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: but I mean, if it isn't going to be interesting, 612 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: then why are we talking about it? 613 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: Right? This one will be fun, you know what? 614 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: Also could be fun? Remember week two, we are in Baltimore, 615 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: the big Joe Flacco back in Baltimore thing. Remember that, Well, 616 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: if he is still the starting quarterback of the Bengals 617 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving, Joe Flacco and the Bengals in Baltimore on 618 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving night, or let me phrase it this way, Joe 619 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Flacco's Bengals will visit the Ravens potentially on Thanksgiving night. 620 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: So there's that. 621 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: And we thank you for listening and liking and sharing 622 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: and subscribing and watching this episode in which we had 623 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: a wardrobe change, first ever wardrobe change in the Bark Tank. 624 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: My name is Andrew Siciliano. See you next week. After 625 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: the win over the steers