WEBVTT - Creep ("Lonely Hearts" S1 EP 8)

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<v Speaker 1>Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi guys, Hi Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura was afraid her glasses were going to reflect the

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<v Speaker 3>light on zoom, and I remembered that we had a

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<v Speaker 3>director who had been a child star who used to

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<v Speaker 3>tell us chin down, chin down, ladies, and you would

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<v Speaker 3>do this thing as you go, see what this looks like,

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<v Speaker 3>see what this looks like. And then Daphney remembered her

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<v Speaker 3>name Nancy, because you said she was a child star.

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<v Speaker 3>She had blonde hair, she was full of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what she said to me. She said, Daphne,

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<v Speaker 2>look just below the camera, like if this is the lens,

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<v Speaker 2>look right here and stare off and give me that

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<v Speaker 2>stare at the end. That's what I learned from Mickey Rooney.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the end of a scene when you wish

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<v Speaker 2>they would say cut, but they don't say cut. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, yes, oh, I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Just look right.

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<v Speaker 1>There and think of Mickey Rooney.

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<v Speaker 3>But here it's a perfect They get all flushed. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you remember that at one point she was going through

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<v Speaker 3>a divorce and she would keep us there for like

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen hours. Do you remember that? It's like, where are

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<v Speaker 3>the hours along? So that she's getting a divorce, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, never wasted. A director is going through

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<v Speaker 3>a divorce because they never want to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, So think of who else kept us

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<v Speaker 2>there long?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? He exactly keep shooting over and over. Want people

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<v Speaker 3>with a happy home life because then they want to

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<v Speaker 3>get through the day and get home. Yes, like true,

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was Phil Rosenthal was famous for on Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>Loves Raymond. But he had a happy home life. So

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<v Speaker 3>they had really good hours because he wanted to get

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<v Speaker 3>home to his happy home life. So all the writers

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<v Speaker 3>got to have happy home lives. That's so cool, isn't

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<v Speaker 3>that sweet? And just what you think he'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. That's a good

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<v Speaker 2>telltale though.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we have we have another recap this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It is episode eight in season one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's episode right, and can I ask you guys something?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was watching this and I was thinking, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I'm able to watch it. It's just like

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<v Speaker 3>Jenny and Tory said, like, I'm becoming more of a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting more separation and I'm like, oh, I know

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<v Speaker 3>everyone had a crush on the guys, Like I'm suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>seeing them not as the guys I worked with, but

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<v Speaker 3>like Objeculately or Andrew who I dated, are my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm going, oh, my goodness, there's one and we

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<v Speaker 3>get to what I'll say it. But but Grant had

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<v Speaker 3>a line where he it was just so charming and sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, well, like there's I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, abjectively adorable you do when when Amy came in,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about it. We get I wrote it down,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll say it when we get to because he

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<v Speaker 3>showed through, right, his charm showed through, and I just thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. I get why the ladies love the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny, Courtney, because now I'm watching scenes with

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<v Speaker 2>you and Andrew knowing that something already happened off camera.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm very much of that in this Like in this.

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<v Speaker 3>Episode, I'm like, they're really close together on that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we were to meet it together at this point. Yeah really,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. So you're like, can we shoot it again?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we shoot the scene again?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>We can see it all over the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this one is season season one, episode eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Lonely Hearts is the title, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This one I remembered so clearly. Really, I remember filming

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<v Speaker 3>it so clearly. I remember the storyline, not my storyline,

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<v Speaker 3>but Amy and Matt Roth's storyline. Yeah, I remember it

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<v Speaker 3>so clearly. For whatever reason, m.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the story, this story was pretty like

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<v Speaker 1>relevant and like poignant and stood out. It doesn't surprise

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<v Speaker 1>me that that you remember it, actually, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big story to tell. Yeah that that

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<v Speaker 1>woman in peril thing, and yeah, well not that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember your own your own bit in it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so caught up in your personal life by

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<v Speaker 1>the car exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, Laura, you know what you said relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little surprised that this storyline, which we'll

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<v Speaker 2>obviously find out, is as relevant. It's like age old,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's constant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's totally bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking that too, and we'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's basically about stalking and I watch Some might say

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<v Speaker 3>too much dateline, which is valid, but still you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>the cops don't have enough power to do anything when

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<v Speaker 3>women are being terrorized, women are still expected to just

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<v Speaker 3>and she's very clear from the beginning. She's very clear

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning, and he just doesn't hear her. There's

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<v Speaker 3>too much to give away. It's so good, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>So it begins with Sandy and Ronda shopping in a boutique.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying on hats, they're having good time. Random dude

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<v Speaker 1>walks by looks in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Windows around, which is every guy's version of what women do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's either either having a pillow fight or dancing in

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<v Speaker 3>a store, trying while trying.

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<v Speaker 1>They're having fun, but it turns out they're being watched.

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<v Speaker 1>So the guy walking by, he looks in the window,

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<v Speaker 1>and he stops and he wants to watch some more,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he starts interacting with Sandy through the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he comes inside and they introduced themselves and he says, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you must be an actress or a model.

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<v Speaker 1>You've just got all the all the right you know,

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<v Speaker 1>parts and pieces and whatever. They end up going outside

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<v Speaker 1>where he continues to ask her out on a date

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<v Speaker 1>for tonight and not just like a coffee or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Angelini's so and he's super handsome and seems super sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>but did you guys notice and they were filming it

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<v Speaker 3>like something was weird, like there wasn an action must

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<v Speaker 3>not have actually been a front window because there is

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<v Speaker 3>no window when he was filming, and it looked like

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't really dealing with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you notice that?

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<v Speaker 1>And they clarified it for one side of it, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like the window.

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<v Speaker 3>I walked in past camera, but you never saw a window.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get past all the denim. Did you notice all.

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<v Speaker 3>The denim jnim on danim.

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<v Speaker 2>I did d Denham and denim overalls, and yet the

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<v Speaker 2>extra denim.

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<v Speaker 3>Den Oh my god, there was so much denim in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and the cowboy boots walking down the stream was

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<v Speaker 1>the very opening with the denim and the cowboy boots

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<v Speaker 1>walking down Melrose, which, yeah, then you know it is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of foreshadowing because we see that look.

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<v Speaker 3>At the extras literally after that scene kind of wraps

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<v Speaker 3>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Then all these extras walk probably with all these denis

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<v Speaker 2>on a jean jackets.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just bought a denim dress yesterday, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>right in with nineteen ninety four. I might in we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a denim dress too, So I think we're all yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just confirmation that the nineties fashion is now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's back.

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<v Speaker 1>It is either that or we're terribly out of touch.

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<v Speaker 3>We're stuck in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah the arm I think we're I have the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Airdo, so I might very well be stuck in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're okay, Okay. So then, uh, at the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul and Sandy are on this date at Angeline's and

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy's you know, sort of trying to get to know him.

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<v Speaker 1>Finds out that he was boring. He's boring, and she

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<v Speaker 1>says yeah, and she says, uh, you know the way

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<v Speaker 1>we met. No, that's weird. She sort of acknowledges it

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<v Speaker 1>right off the bat. So as they're getting into the date.

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<v Speaker 2>Both from a small town, like that's all that's all

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<v Speaker 2>he needs, right, like to have.

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<v Speaker 1>In common, he's finding out where she's from. Whatever. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>before we finish that date, we cut to Allison who's

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<v Speaker 1>returning home to the apartment. She's very angry and she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a mess, and she enters the apartment. She

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<v Speaker 1>slammed the door, angry about her car.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I have a single uh and splash basically of

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<v Speaker 3>Greece on race.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really get a dressed, so just.

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<v Speaker 3>Highlight my cheek. You requested that, didn't you cart here?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>You must have said just have something, and Lorna went,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, here you go and give me. I was

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<v Speaker 3>wife of Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>I was distracted by this smear of Greece.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a stripe.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a drawing, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was so pronounced. I was expecting him to

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<v Speaker 2>like wipe it off with some a nice little, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dish towel or something, to at.

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<v Speaker 3>Least say, what happened to you? Acknowledge it? For the

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<v Speaker 3>loan of God, somebody acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was an elephant in the room. The stripe

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<v Speaker 1>on her face was the elephant. That nobody's gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But she does say that she if she

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<v Speaker 1>had a gun, she would shoot her car because she's

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<v Speaker 1>so angry about the unreliability of her car. And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>such a horrible day. So Billy suggests that it's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>time to go car shopping and he could help her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you qualify for a loan. Trust me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I got you, And Alison says, every time I

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<v Speaker 1>trust you, something terrible happens, sad just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Really. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We go back to the restaurant where Paul is telling

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy about his job at the nursery. He's a plant guy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's clearly very bored, but he, you know, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>her to know. It's you know, did you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not what you plant. No, it's not what you plant,

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<v Speaker 1>it's where you plant. It's like profound.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming, boring. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're sharing this very boring and awkward date and

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy says, no, thank you to dessert. It's time. She

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<v Speaker 1>would like to just go home, but he insists on

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<v Speaker 1>following her, accompanying her home, which she tries.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course those of us at home are going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>those are going red flag, red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Red flag. Yeah they don't. They have separate cars. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need to do that, and he insists.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why boundaries are important early and strong, like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I don't work, no thank you. Then he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>know where she lived.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's, you know, she's in this position of being like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just was trying not to be rude or trying

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, trying to be nice or like, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've found herself allowing that, you know, like just this

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<v Speaker 1>bad judgment moment and then he's following her home and

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<v Speaker 1>then when they get there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you guys, he would have followed her anyway, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so he asked permission. It's kind of like because he

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<v Speaker 2>knows who he is, he knows he's going to obsess,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what he does. And he says, oh, I'll follow you,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's so awkward. Who the hell does that? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to follow you in your car to where you live.

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<v Speaker 2>But because she says that, one thing of like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if she had said no for your comment

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<v Speaker 2>about having a boundary, I think he would have followed

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<v Speaker 2>her anyways. So kind of like you're an a lose loom.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, though, I think this sooner you pay

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<v Speaker 3>attention to red flags, the better, Like if she had

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<v Speaker 3>then paid attention, if he'd followed her, she could have

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<v Speaker 3>stopped it earlier. But as women, as we know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>so raised to be polite and not hurt their feelings

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<v Speaker 3>that we often abandon ourselves to avoid hurting a man's

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<v Speaker 3>feelings correct and then we end up getting trouble, which

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<v Speaker 3>is what happened. You know, she knew she was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to be nice, and then every little bit of nice

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<v Speaker 3>gave him more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she's twenty one years old or something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all these things that are just like difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate and for a young girl. And so she

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<v Speaker 1>finds herself in this position. So now he's walking into

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<v Speaker 1>the courtyard into her apartment, you know, commenting on how

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<v Speaker 1>nice the apartment building is, which one's yours. Wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know actually where her apartment is.

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<v Speaker 3>She tries to be vague and just say it's upstairs,

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<v Speaker 3>not specifically which one it is, and then he says

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to go out with her again.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, no, I'm not. The timing's really not right

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<v Speaker 1>for me. My life is complicated. But thank you for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's she's pretty clear like yeah, this isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a thing. She's polite, but she's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say nope, no more. He kisses her good night on

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<v Speaker 1>the cheek, I think, And when Sandy goes to turn

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<v Speaker 1>and walk upstairs, that's when we see that Jake is

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<v Speaker 1>sitting poolside and he's kind of witnessed the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he comments, he's like, oh, another one bites the

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<v Speaker 1>dust and is that the moment your time talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this is when when she was that was my moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like grant because it was so grant

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<v Speaker 3>that moment. It was so adorable when he put the

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<v Speaker 3>hat down right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's sitting pull side with a baseball hat on,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he's witnessed this moment. He's taking a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of like glee from it to see that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's blowing off this guy or whatever. Yeah, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just his tone and he's so casual, like he's so

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in his posture and the way he's sitting. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was why I assumed that was the moment Courtney

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, But apparently it's the one d Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh there's another one coming, I know that's one scene.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just he was so relaxed. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Grant came through in that scene. He wasn't very yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean later he's super tough Jake, but this scene

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of Grant and it was just adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that scene ends with Ronda appearing at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the stairs too, saying, you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the perfect guy, you might be waiting forever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, tell me, tell me something at least was

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<v Speaker 1>was he a good kiss her? And Ron is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, you know, I've kissed walls with more passion,

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly it was not a lot of walls.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Bizarre but okay, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when Grant pulls his hat down or.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy yeaeah ouch, but he is getting a kick out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, like carrying out Sandy Weston for sure. So

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<v Speaker 1>h Then we're at the car dealership where Billy is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help Allison with the car sale and car

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<v Speaker 1>exchange and the used car is going to be her

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<v Speaker 1>down payment bill. It's like, I got this. Here's here's

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<v Speaker 1>the trick. You gotta play hard to get. Trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm doing. But uh, then as Allison

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<v Speaker 1>does not understand, be cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And comment on that dealership, is that nineties or what

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<v Speaker 2>all those flags? A pink used car lot? The guy

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<v Speaker 2>it was so nineties? And does it stand out at

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<v Speaker 2>me now because it's all this time later or was that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know it was beefed up back then, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just noticed the prices of the doms, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like only ninety eight or you know whatever, and they

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, like just the prices where oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 3>Carlos change that much. Though there's one on Lincoln still

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<v Speaker 3>that I think looks like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Magenta with all those jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The Taco joint or or like the little like windy

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<v Speaker 1>guys that like, yeah, didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's those kind of experts. It's those kind of moments,

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<v Speaker 2>the visual in the show that it just makes me

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<v Speaker 2>long for it and miss it those days the DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I want to wear a lot, but just

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of visual we.

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<v Speaker 1>Can get you a dress and we can all be matchy,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe by accident, like we'll just show up and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>all have so anyway, so, uh, Alison is not able

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<v Speaker 1>to play it cool. She sees a red convertible. She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the and I want no, I think this was time.

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<v Speaker 3>This is I'm going to see you guys talk amongst yourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to look up when miatas came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I think oh I came out. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's right. It's probably a but anyway, Allison is

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<v Speaker 1>not playing it cool. She loves it. She jumps in

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<v Speaker 1>the front seat and she makes it very clear that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one she wants, and Billy's like, not

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<v Speaker 1>the way to handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy's trying to cut control of the situation, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right when they came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice red Miata.

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<v Speaker 1>So then Billy and Allison are outside the car sales

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<v Speaker 1>office and the guy says, you know, your car is

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<v Speaker 1>only worth three hundred bucks for a time, and Allison

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<v Speaker 1>is super that's Betsy. That's Betsy. He's insulting.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Alison's car named Betsy worth more than that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So Billy says, it's all right, we can walk away.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust me, he'll he'll chase it hard, he'll yeah, he'll

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<v Speaker 3>play hard to get, he'll fault. And the salesman has

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<v Speaker 3>no interesting and doing that, he moves on to another customer.

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<v Speaker 3>So Billy says, all right, Allison, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>sell Betsy yourself, but then we'll have real bargaining power.

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<v Speaker 1>So then or in the daytime, there's a pool party.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Matt and Jake, Michael and Jane. They're in the pool.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda is at the grill. Sandy's just getting back from

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store and discovers that Paul is there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>invited himself to join the pool party, and he's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a lounge chair.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a bouquet of roses and that's a little

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<v Speaker 3>off putting, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaves to go put his flowers in the water. Ronda suggests,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you should give this guy a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sandy is like, no, that's not her I gave him.

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<v Speaker 1>I have my opinion, and I gave him my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and no. So she follows him outside and she says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Paul, I have a lot to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not able to do this right now. And he says,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll walk me to my car. So outside she down

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<v Speaker 1>and she says, I was just trying to be nice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. He says, doesn't seem like your life is

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<v Speaker 1>so complicated. I was just trying to be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, no, no, she's saying. I think before she

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<v Speaker 2>said I was trying to be nice, she said, I

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<v Speaker 2>was very clear. She says that on the courtyard too,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and then he's like, yeah, the whole point

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<v Speaker 2>of the scene is that he is not hearing no

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<v Speaker 2>here what she says.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she goes so far as to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that my life was complicated because I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to be nice. I mean, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just come out and say I want to go out

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<v Speaker 1>with you, you know. And so he says, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can take a hint. And he says, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not I get it. I'm not good enough

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<v Speaker 1>for you. It's like how he decides to try to

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<v Speaker 1>be He.

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<v Speaker 3>Plays it well though, because he seems like a really

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<v Speaker 3>sweet guy, just needy. So you're kind of like, this

0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 3>is weird, but it doesn't feel scary at this point, right.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he's annoying, but it doesn't feel quite scary.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just annoying. And to be clear, like Matt Roth,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the actor, he's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this huge storyline, always fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's fantastic in everything. He has a huge career.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've all worked with him and other shows,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in other times of our lives. Whatever. He's great,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got this huge part this episode. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>the character is so darn insidious and creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>It does look like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not mad, it's it's the character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does. Look how that looked like he just

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<v Speaker 2>came out from the Midwest with like maybe Hay still

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<v Speaker 2>in the hair and very nice and I'm gonna mad

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<v Speaker 2>at that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He seems so sweet that you're like weird, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard to be mean to him because he seems so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an aw shucks about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly, Yeah, really well played mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, Sandy wakes up to the clock radio

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<v Speaker 1>informing her about how hot it's going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>La There's san Anna wins and Ronda is in the

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<v Speaker 1>living room packing up stuff cassette tapes by the way

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<v Speaker 1>or at aerobic seminar. She minds Sandy that she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be out of town at an aerobic seminar in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy opens the front door to discover that the swimming

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<v Speaker 1>pool has been filled with lilies, which happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>a flower.

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<v Speaker 2>Now lilies are those lotuses like the lily pads right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're floating. I thought that looked really I mean

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a stalk are aside, obsession, like inappropriateness aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it's really cool all things.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that pool looks great, how can we

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<v Speaker 3>go through that? Were you surprised that Michael wasn't more angry.

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<v Speaker 1>He was skimming the pool and we've seen him skimming

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<v Speaker 1>the pool before and like doing yard work, and he's angry,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one didn't anger him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, a thousand flowers didn't seem to upset him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, yeah, but and he does say and they're

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<v Speaker 1>from Paul because he left a note, so it confirms

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<v Speaker 1>that he's, yeah, starting to super stock. So back with

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<v Speaker 1>Alison trying to sell her car. She meets an old

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<v Speaker 1>lady who is very discerning and does not want.

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<v Speaker 3>To Yeah, but can we say the star of this

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<v Speaker 3>scene is my jacket, which looks like I've escaped from

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<v Speaker 3>a vaudeville show. Why am I wearing a huge striped jacket?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like you had a skirt suit on or

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<v Speaker 1>something like.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very shoulder pads. Did I attack and clown?

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<v Speaker 3>What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Neutral? And then the stripe jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought in the show, when they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make a young man look stronger, like they put him

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<v Speaker 3>in this jacket, not.

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<v Speaker 1>A those were the jackets we wore. We did wear

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder pads and like big boxy giant blazers, right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I mean I came back from D and D.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's specific to Allison in this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a sign of the times.

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<v Speaker 3>That was ridiculous. I imagine the costume. I don't think

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.360
<v Speaker 3>it was Denise said. I imagine the costomer saying it's

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<v Speaker 3>a short scene, suck it up, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a short scene, and it's all the rage everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>wearing them. Because I don't think on that one, I

0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.359
<v Speaker 1>think that was Allison's business look for the day. But

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<v Speaker 1>the old lady who's like examining the car is very

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<v Speaker 1>in the know about all the guys must be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with Betsy and she's not. She's not.

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<v Speaker 2>She reminded me of Aunt b Mayberry around. She says

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<v Speaker 2>for me, honey, no wait yea rush den Iowa all

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<v Speaker 2>that turns around.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, sorry, honey, that reference is not for

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<v Speaker 3>our younger listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Berry RFD. Look, we just we just did a really

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>good impression. Daphne has really good impressions. So then Sandy

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<v Speaker 1>is near the mailboxes and she's talking to Jake explaining

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<v Speaker 1>how like this guy is just not getting it. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was straight to the point and and uh, she's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's just not getting it and and uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>have this weird kind of conversation about their own history

0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:02.199
<v Speaker 1>is in this scene like nowhere. Yeah, it's sort of

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like he throws it in about like, wait, remember when

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>we first met. We weren't you know, we weren't. We

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>were strangers just like you and this guy. We were strangers,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were both lonely. It was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got a little a little twisted about what we were

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:20.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about and why. But oddly, also, then Jake tells

0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Sandy that she should consider why she's not giving paula chance,

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Like he wants to make it kind of about him

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and them, and go, is it it's because we still

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 1>have this thing, right, you should probably consider I think

0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I know why you're not giving paula chances because you

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>still have feelings for me, but you need to go much.

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah, so it's sort of the scene sort

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of became about them. It was sort of an interesting tooic.

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Also, he may not be her most objective listener, like maybe.

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you His feelings seemed to be very caught

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.119
<v Speaker 1>up in this and he wasn't really hearing what she

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.200
<v Speaker 1>was trying to say, which is like this dude, isn't

0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:57.560
<v Speaker 1>getting the point, and I feel creeped out.

0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's like, what does this have to do with

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.919
<v Speaker 3>us dating years go? And she's like, I'm not. You

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 3>can't quite hear her.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Can I just give a plug to therapy right here?

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I was told a long time ago by a friend

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 2>who did a lot of therapy herself, because I was

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.879
<v Speaker 2>making the mistake of telling I think a guy that

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I liked the problem and she said, you have to

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 2>know when to go to your girlfriends and when you

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 2>go to the guy you want to be. You know,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 2>you have to know what to tell to whom like

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>that's not you don't tell them that your girlfriend that.

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>So this is an example of where if Sandy had

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>had help from therapy, she might know go to the

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>girlfriends and.

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<v Speaker 3>Not consider the sex. He's not her best person.

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, he's not her best person.

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Here so we find Alison and Billy Shooters. Allison is

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 3>now wearing a vest. I will there's a vest real

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 3>vest theme. This is my week of vests, and I

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 3>think under my big stripe jacket I had a vest. See.

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's a sign of the

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>times because vests are all over the place on all

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the characters, so it's not just Alison, but yes, it

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is noticeable once again, Alison wearing a vest and they're shooters.

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>They're playing a pool game and and uh he. Billy

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>wants to talk to Alison about the idea of her

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>naming her inanimate objects. Alison tells Billy that she's been

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to sell her car, and he says, there's a

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>problem with having a name for your car, like, you're

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 1>too attached and what is it that you know you

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you have this? What is it with naming your inanimate object?

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 3>We named our cars growing up. Our little convertible bug

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 3>was Rosy and our big station wagon was Goldie. Do

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 3>you want your car's name?

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Growing up, we named our dogs, but not our cars.

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Now well see we named our cars and not our dogs,

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 3>which is really weird. We were like, hey poodle mix,

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Hey German Shepherd.

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>They were a category, they were a make and model.

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, is this Laura and Court, you think this

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.640
<v Speaker 2>is where he's bringing up the theme of growing up

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and being a child and leaving home because the car

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of represents, you know, leaving home. She came out

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 2>in that car and this hole where this This is

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 2>a theme throughout with these two. You know, it's a

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>different place. They end in a different place kind of.

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Also, things grew up differently. Yeah, Also they grew up

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 3>with me like Billy. I feel like Alison really had

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 3>to do everything on her own and Billy didn't. I

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 3>think this is a theme between them all the time too,

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Like she had to save money to earn this car

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 3>and buy this car and he seemed to be given more.

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 3>So that's and isn't he between them?

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Isn't he? Also sort of like trying to say, like

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you have more of an attachment to objects than you

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 1>do to people, Like you don't open up and trust

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>me as a person, but you yet you name your

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>inanimate objects like you're more. You have this atta atachment

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to a car and you give it a name, Like

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>he's sort of questioning that instead of like, Hey, what

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>about me people? Person? You know, like it just me

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and this attachment.

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 3>I wish she'd been there to explain that to me

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 3>at the time.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 1>It really would listen.

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 3>That would have really helped me.

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I sort of thought we're going to.

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Shoot the next one hundred and forty episodes because no

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 3>real insight into Alison.

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's a good point. I'm trying to decipher. Really,

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm an audience member.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. I think he's saying, you're more

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 3>attached to your car than you are to me.

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of like that.

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 3>That's very sweet.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But he is encouraging her by the convertible, like it's

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>time to move on. Let Betsy go buy the convertible.

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.959
<v Speaker 1>Go back by the convertible. So then we cut to

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Sandy who's working at Shooters and she also was wearing

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a vest and she has a choker on a necklace.

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>When Paul walks up and he's with Matt and Rhonda

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and there they've been hanging out and Sandy's like, why

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>get away from my friends? Like, no, those are my friends.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>But Paul is inserting himself in their relationship too. He's

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, donating trees from the nursery to the halfway house.

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, Matt and Rond are like, whoa

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>great guy.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 3>I will say it was nice to see Doug. I

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, Doug.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>He's yeah, he's a small appearance in this, in this Yeah,

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have enough to do in this one, not

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but Sandy's frustrated and she tells Paul like,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing between us. It's over, please, don't you know.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And Jake walks in, grabs two beers and right off

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the tray.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>And was coming here, little man.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I tried to have a conversation with Paul. And Paul.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>This is where Paul tells Jake, oh, Sandy flirted with him.

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>She'll come around eventually, and you know, sort of tells

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>his person story and Sandy assumes Jake was trying to

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>get rid of Paul. But instead of him going yeah,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know that dude's weird or whatever, he says, Sandy,

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you flirted with Paul, like, he makes it like an

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>accusation and accuses and believes the guy.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Believes the guy. The guy can just say anything something.

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Behind closed doors and on you know, voicemail or whatever,

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and then says one thing, Oh, you know, she was

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>flirting with me, and he had really er.

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like it's two things. It's not

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>only that you know, he's inclined to believe the guy,

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.239
<v Speaker 1>or that he just chooses not to believe her, but

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that also he's sort of making it about him again.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you flirted with him, Like he's letting his jealousy

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>be like what bothers them part of what bothers them?

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And first of all, it's not even true. She was

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>just on a date. That's not you know whatever. She

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>tried to have a date, decided it wasn't for her

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>at all and was very clear about that. And he's

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>still like, well, you've flirted.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 3>So I think poor Grant is in charge of having

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 3>the viewpoint of she asked for it, which would not

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 3>remotely be what Grant would say, you mean unfortunately, well ja, yeah,

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 3>but I mean Grant the actor has to be jay

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to play that you ask for it, which he wouldn't.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 3>I think he was probably fighting it the whole way.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 3>But you know, we had to say what was written

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 3>as written. But that is what people say, right, what

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 3>did you do?

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And I think but it and it's a it's a

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>classic story, like that's still is a thing. I think

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>women are what's relevant? Yeah, what were you wearing? Or

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>what did you do? You know, like there's always very.

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately yuck.

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>So then Sandia's leaving Shooters after her shift. She needs

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to walk out in the dark, neighborhood by herself. She

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>says goodbye to her co workers and walks away by herself,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>walking down empty streets, and it's a little creepy. She's

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>looking over her shoulder. She is understandably nervous, and she's

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>looking over her shoulder, and sure enough, we see footsteps,

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we hear them, we see them with those jeans in

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the boots, and they hurry as she hurries, they hurry.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's all very, very creepy. And that scene, I

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>think is just like every woman knows what that feels like,

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>this feeling of like I'm alone. I'm finding myself in

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this weird moment where I don't feel safe, and it's

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that scene really.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 3>My got it, you know, Yeah, that was scary.

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Sandy comes home and she realizes when the apartment is empty, Oh,

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of course, and I'm home alone because that's right. Ronda's

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in Houston for this thing. And Sandy presses the answering

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>machine to listen to her messages, and Paul has left

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of messages starting at two am, and they

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>continue and they get more desperate, get more stocky, and

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about how she shouldn't be out this late. So

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it's terrifying, and Sandy starts crying as she's listening to.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 3>These horrible or baby's chilling.

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I was probably Sandy at this time in nineteen ninety two.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I was working at restaurants, Like I was exactly this right,

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>like coming home late at night from working in a

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>restaurant or a bar and stuff, and like, I feel

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like there's so much about the scenario that I was like,

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>oh God, I recognize that, you know, coming home to

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>an empty apartment or whatever, like it's dark or it's late,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>or at a roommate. We had one apartment where we

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>came home from work, but we had a peeping tom

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>in one of our apartment buildings. We lived in this duplex,

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and these two guys from the restaurant where we worked

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>lived above us, and my roommate was trying to take

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a shower after work, and it wasn't even like dark

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>it was at this for this incident, wasn't even dark.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like maybe sundown or something like around eight pm

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in the summer, and some dude had pulled up like

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>a milk crate or a box or something to stand

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>high enough to peek in the window. And our roommates

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>who are our housemates who are friends upstairs called this,

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>there's somebody is somebody in the shower. There's somebody trying

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to look in your bathroom window. They alerted us to it,

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and then so we're like, you know, Cindy's frozen in

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the shower like trying to find a corner of it

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>where like the window doesn't have a whatever. And then

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the guys are having to like yell out the window

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to get this creeper guy to go away, and he

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>only decides to run away when they yelled at they're

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>calling the police or whatever, but like just that vulnerable

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>feeling of like being in a place, and then that

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was horrible. But then we had another incident where we

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>were coming home late at night. We worked at a

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>bar together, one of these bars that closed like late

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>at night. Like like Sandy's doing right, She's leaving alone,

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and we parked our car where we park and we're

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>walking up to the door of our apartment and we

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>had like this creeper.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Like flasher dude, like a real act of like aggression

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>but like just so creeping, gross flasher totally you know,

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 3>expose himself whatever.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>At whatever. It was two in the morning or something

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>which is just the most creepy, awful feeling, you know,

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and it just feels it's just such a violation and

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>just an assault. So anyway, I completely related to this

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>thing of Sandy going, you know, I love I got

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to walk to my car after work and that vulnerability.

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 2>And your apartment mates helped you. Yeah, were you guys

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>taken by how our friend that Melra's placed like had

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>all the wrong answers for Sandy. I mean, she's done

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>this all by herself. Nobody believes her.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 3>They say, Alwa's fine, he's charming, he's like constant. I

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 3>think that's what is so smart about the way they

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 3>wrote it, which is he charms everybody and he seems

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 3>so sweet impress everybody around, or someone starts to say

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>he's creepy, like, oh, you're overreacting, which, by the way,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I like Laura, when you're telling that story,

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 3>you said it was an assault, because that happened to me.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Different variations of that, and it'd be like, oh, but

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 3>what did he really do? But it scares you, and

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.439
<v Speaker 3>it's and I think we're just trying starting to change

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>the vocabulary and saying, oh no, that's an assault. Yeah,

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 3>you're you're you may not be touching somebody, but you're

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 3>assaulting their sense of safety and security. And so I

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 3>think that's how he got around it. Right, So then

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 3>everyone's like, but he's so nice, what's wrong with you?

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 3>And also like, if they'd chosen a different character for

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 3>it to happen to, like a sweeter character like say Alison, right,

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>people would have been, oh no, poor Allison. But Sandy

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 3>has this sexy, sort of tough attitude. Yeah, so they

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 3>probably didn't jump onto her.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Welcomed it on. She brought it on herself exactly.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and it does, and that whole idea continues,

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't gotten those scenes yet where the but

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you're right that the other characters are like, well you

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>know they that they don't, so it does. It just

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 1>builds from here. It's not even this isn't like she's

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>reacting exactly, Yeah, but you're right, he's he's ingratiated himself

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>enough that they are sort of justified and thinking, oh,

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>he seems fine.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, when that happens, it makes you wonder,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>am I crazy?

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe he is?

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Or why am I being like this? No one else

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 2>sees it? I must be they must be right, and.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, am I making a big deal out of nothing exactly?

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Or am I reading this wrong? It just makes you

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>question everything.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's what she does. So she takes these messages,

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and she you know, she wakes up Jake and Michael

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jane and they're listening to these phone messages together, right.

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they're at Jane and Michael's apartment listening to

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>these phone messages. And and you know, Michael admits, all right,

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy's over the deep end or whatever. And and

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and then Jane has a story that she tells that

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.919
<v Speaker 1>she's she was getting obscene phone calls for a week,

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and she has this idea like, well, you know, if

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you blow whistle, you know, they stop calling because it's

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 1>really uncomfortable to get this loud noise in your or whatever.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>And then but Michael then sort of changes his tune

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and says, well, he seemed like a nice guy at

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the pool, and I think, you know, I think he

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>just thought it was flattering. I think he just thought,

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, what he was doing was flattering, you know,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like that that idea. They can't really help her, except

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like she's got to go back to her apartment and

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>she's got to go back and be alone and try

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to sleep and still feeling vulnerable, and and Jake follows

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>her out and she says, you know, you said it

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>yourself wrong gender, like you're you're not really being sympathetic here,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't feel good, you know, I don't feel safe.

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 2>And you know, does that mean you said it yourself

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 2>wrong gender?

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I think he said in the previous moment where

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>she was trying to she was trying to tell him

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in the courtyard, yeah, like like I'm not interested in

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.879
<v Speaker 1>this guy, and he he had like not really been

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>sympathetic about it. He's like, yeah, if you're looking for sympathy,

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you've chosen the wrong gender. He sort of said.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 3>About it and can't be sympathetic.

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh so then he it's sort of repeated again. I

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a weird moment too, though, Yeah, weird.

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I know why it's weird.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then they try to circle back to it

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 3>and said, well, you set it yourself wrong gender.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I'm he's refusing to be sympathetic then,

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>which is very bizarre.

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so she has to go back to bed, she's

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>trying to sleep she can't. She's just laying there, wide awake,

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and the phone continues to rings like super vulnerable feeling.

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>The morning, Jake is cleaning his motorcycle in the courtyard.

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Billy's talking to him about Allison and wanting to bed

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 1>a new car, and Billy compares Jake and Sandy's relationship

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to car buying, where Jake says it's too early for

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>this and partly so no, this is no, We're not

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 1>going to have that. But Jake does tell Billy here

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>that Sandy thinks Paul has a screw loose.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 3>And uh.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Sandy walks in Billy leaves. Sandy tells Jake that Paul

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>called again last night and that she's gone to the

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>police and that they can't do anything. So Jake now says, well,

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>why didn't you ask me to go to the police

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>with you? I believe you. I believe you now finally,

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and I'll I've had experience with the police.

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I've got lots of experience with the police. They not

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>had a handle lists And I'll take you to I

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>want to. I'm gonna take you to work today and

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick you up. I'm not gonna let you

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>walk home on.

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 3>So he's somehow turned a corner and he's decided to

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 3>believe her, And I think it was Billy's comment really

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 3>turned the time.

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, car buying, he is a wise Allison called him something,

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>oh wise old whatever, she called him, son of salesmen, Yeah,

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a little guru. Okay. So Allison trying to sell the

0:38:55.880 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>car to another young customer, very sweet, sort of young

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>innocent person who's asking about gas mileage, and Alison's really

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>struggling to try to like how do I frame this?

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>But I really want to sell Betsy, but I also

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>don't want to, like, you know, sell this young girl

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a world clunker and I know.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 3>And the casting was so perfect because she did look

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 3>like a younger version of Allison. Yeah right, literally could

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>have been looking into her own past. It was so sweet.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And Billy's Billy innocent in the background, like rooting for

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Alison to like bring it home, and Alison just can't

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>bring herself to like.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Lie, I was so relieved. I was worried that I

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 3>was going to do something horrible, but.

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 2>No, thatll are of this car.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Never Allison would never do something horrible and dishonest, So

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>she's very honest with the girl. The girls like thanks

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>for being honest, and she rides away on her bike.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Was wearing like a McDonald's yeah outfit or something like

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 2>she works at fast food.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Betsy may not have been better than the bike, apparently, so,

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>so Jake is now walking Sandy to her door after

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>work that night. He peeks inside and takes a look

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>around and gives Sandy your keys, and they are inspecting

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the apartment. They find that there has been a window

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>left open the apartment. So that's terrifying. Somebody's been in

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the apartment. Jake goes to search the apartment and in

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the bedroom, Sandy finds that flower petals have been sprinkled

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>all over her bedroom.

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:28.280
<v Speaker 3>All over.

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, so he's broken in. He's done this creepy thing.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And the phone is ringing, the answer machine is picking up,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and Paul leaves a message. I mean, there's just evidence

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>upon evidence upon evidence upon evidence. He's leaving a message

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>for Sandy, and Jake picks up, and Paul panics and

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 1>hangs up. Jake says, tell me where he works. You

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>stay here, lock the doors, don't talk to nobody. So

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>he leaves to go look for.

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 3>The nursery and in this moment, even though I'm a

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 3>very evolved woman and blah blah blah, and like, oh

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 3>yeah he's gonna go beat somebody.

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Yuh yeah, I protected is Yeah, I mean it is

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole part of me.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 3>It was all excited.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a it's a relief though that he's like

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>believing her, he's and he's like gonna do something about

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it that she doesn't feel like she's been able to do,

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like there's there's that inherent feeling of like,

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I am my impulse is not to go beat him up.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that. Her impulse was to go to

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the police. What good might that do? You know? But

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>like Jake's like, I got this, take it into his

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>own hands. So he hops the fence at the nursery.

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 1>He goes into the office and he finds Paul on

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the phone and it sounds like he's leaving more messages.

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 3>And Jake punches him out falls to the ground, and

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Jake threatens to kill him if he comes near Sandy again.

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 3>So that we're all like yes, and again my more

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 3>evolve side is saying no, but my my miner cave

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 3>woman is all a flutter. Yes, very attractive. Why is

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 3>your all the sides saying no, myvolve because like, no,

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 3>we should handle this in another way. But I'm just

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 3>saying that there's that core cave woman side of me

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 3>that's like he beats somebody up for her.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, just a feeling of being having some sort of like,

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, if he could, if there's a way to

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>threaten this guy back, like he's you know, he's threatening

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to Sandy and she feels like she has no power.

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>But this physical threat may actually speak to him. We

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>can only hope.

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, it's very Melrose. You know, he's the guy.

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>He's a tough guy.

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>It's Jake.

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>He's wears the T shirts and the leather thing, and

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the only way he knows how to do it.

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>It's very makeouts and punch outs.

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Mel. Yeah, we gotta have them both.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>That's our show.

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 1>So then he he goes back to the apartment, tell

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Sandy that Paul won't bother her anymore, and oh, by

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the way, you should stay at my place for the night,

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>just to be safe. And so they're laying there. I

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>think they're on the cap Are they on a cop?

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't bed tell me about it. But in their clothes,

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in their clothes.

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it took another like crazy fast turn.

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:06.479
<v Speaker 1>It became about them again.

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 3>It happened.

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then they always they're talking and they're being nostalgic

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and like sort of reminiscing about like what did happen

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>with us? Oh? Do you remember the first night we

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>were together? And is it that we're too much alike?

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>So it did. It turned into a whole thing about and.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I would love to hear like from our audience who

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 3>remembers that and he's watching along with us, Like did

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.919
<v Speaker 3>the audience at that point? Were they rooting for Jake

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 3>and Sandy? Because I feel like, and I don't know

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 3>if it's just I knew all the players involved, but

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 3>I just keep thinking, why do we keep bringing this up? Right?

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think the audience was rooting for them

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 3>at all?

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. I'm an audience member. I wasn't there,

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>so like, I feel like I'm an audience member, and

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you're right, I'm not sure that I'm rooting for them.

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, but you know, right, well you don't know Amy

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 3>because you came on after.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>It, right, I mean I know them as obviously, right, right, right,

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.359
<v Speaker 1>but like as the characters, like, am I rooting for

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 1>those characters to be together? I can't tell. But it's

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>also like they're sort of dropping the the backstory. They're

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>dropping it to us as they go, right, we're litning

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>more bits of the backstory. So this this episode is

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we find out more, and this is how

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>they're revealing it is by having them reminisced together about it.

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Remember that first night we're together, because up until then

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We weren't really sure, like do they have

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.720
<v Speaker 1>a history, what was their history? How long did it last?

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I knew there was dynamic, right, but it was kind

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of vague. And so I feel like this is the

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>episode where the writers are trying to give the audience

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>more information by having me it's that you brought it.

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Up, Courtney, because I was thinking the same thing. And

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking, I don't know if you feel this, Laura,

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>because we weren't there. But I keep thinking these kids

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>in the that there was more, there was more that

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>we missed. But I realized I've watched every EPISO putting

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>out with you guys, right, it's not more in the past,

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 2>it's before the show started. It's backstory right, and yet

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm I am wondering exactly what you're wondering, Courtney. Does

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>the audience like this and want something to happen because

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 2>they're teasing us for sure?

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Or maybe the writers were checking it out, like when

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 3>the writer remember when Grant and Allison made out and

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 3>they immediately said never mind, Like maybe that was the

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 3>plan that Andrew and I had such good chemistry that

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 3>they were like, oh, we got it. Like they just

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>have to think it's so funny.

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I sort of so weird. I think, I like, my,

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>may my. What I see is that it seemed like

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>they intended to have that. The Jacon Sandy be I

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>made balloons, you guys, I didn't even mean to do it.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>This this is two fingers. You get balloons on a

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>zoom people, I didn't even ask for them. You got balloons. Yeah,

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>but remember all we're getting sidetracked again. But now remember too.

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 2>And that was so cute when you're like, I want

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 2>to join the board and you're like, nothing, so cute.

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 3>It off.

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>We have to change Courtney' zoom settings.

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just computer, so mine's totally off. I'm bommed.

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I keep I forget to turn it off and then

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>here I'm talking to you guys. The next thing I know,

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I've sent balloons.

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. Thank you.

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 3>So you were saying, no balloons for them?

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Are balloons for them?

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Laura? Balloons?

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like, is there like a so so emoji?

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Can I do like a like a emoji? Because I

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like, yeah, I feel like the intention was to

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>have Jake and Sandy's characters be like, oh, that's the obvious,

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>like bad boy and like you know, actress girl, like

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>that would be the match. And I think I think

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that the Billy and Allison relationship, I mean that's a

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:49.879
<v Speaker 1>no brainer for sure. All see that like we want that.

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:51.280
<v Speaker 2>It's you know what's coming.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Or even before, even before Courtney and Andrew knew it,

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I think the writers were probably writing that like that's

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the way they want you to.

0:46:58.480 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I think you could.

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the magical chemistry maybe.

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 2>They were trying it out. I don't know. We don't know.

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because when your chemistry went boom, I'm

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.760
<v Speaker 2>sure they went with it, like you say, they always

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 2>do that. I mean you see people come on with

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>like you're like Laura, when you came on. You said

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 2>you were only on for a couple episodes in Boom.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 2>It worked what you did, so you stayed. So I

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 2>think they are testing stuff out. The thing I think

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.720
<v Speaker 2>about Jake and Sandy is these guys are too hot,

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 2>very sexual people, and so it doesn't ring true that

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 2>they're acting like innocent, oh, trying to do it right,

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 2>like cute, and it just doesn't ring true to me.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I can just see those guys totally going at each other,

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.439
<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't feel right that they're not I don't

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 2>get it.

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.280
<v Speaker 1>So well, apparently that's their backstory and they did that first,

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and we just don't get to see it. We just

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>get to talk about it and reminisce about it.

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But that energy is still there.

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And this night, after she's been stalked,

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they're going to reminisce about their first nights together. So okay,

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>So the Jake tails Sanity go to sleep and they

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>lay their stanner and get the ceiling. So the next day,

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Allison is back at her car. She's at her trunk

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>looking through papers. Billy runs by and Alison's feeling a

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 1>little nostalgic again and she's like, I remember when I

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>first got Betsy, and I've had such fond memories in

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>this car, like when I was.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 3>A designated driver all the time because I never drank,

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 3>although I did lose my virginity in the becksat. I

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:31.800
<v Speaker 3>just slid that right, oh by the way, Yeah, yeah,

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 3>so but she's don't sit in the back. Lord knows

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 3>what's there now, just like.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Like going in there, because we're looking through the hatchback

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 2>into this little, tiny, beat up, rusted out car.

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And my answer is, yeah, my boyfriend didn't have a.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Car, I know.

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, your answer, didn't have a basement.

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>There's so much more to a hotel nearby. There's a

0:48:57.880 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions that should come up here, but it's

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>really the point is supposed to be that Allison is like,

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sell Betsy too many great memories,

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not to the old lady.

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Well then and then and then that very on pointline,

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>but actually, sweet, why is it that every time you

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 3>think you're grown up, something comes along to show you

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 3>how much farther you have to go, which kind of

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 3>defined the heart of these first episodes. Right before all

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 3>hell breaks loose and it gets crazy, crazy fun, It's

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:29.800
<v Speaker 3>like we were just these kids going from early twenties

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 3>into adulthood, right, So that was really sweet. Yeah, and

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's what the show's about.

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 1>But back in back in Jake's apartment, he's walking out

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of the bedroom fully dressed, and Sandy having a very

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>domestic moment, but just in like a long man's shirt,

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, very like morning after Look, she's cooking breakfast

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and she's cooking it only for him because she's going

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to be dieting, but she made him this really nice

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Southern breakfast. Jake is acting surprised that the food is delicious,

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and Sandy sort of enters into another weird conversation kind

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of deep, says, you know, Jake, do you think it's

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>depression or fear that brings some people together?

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Meaning a little bit.

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Deep and out of the blue. But at that moment,

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the police knock at the door and ask Jake to

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>step outside.

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, I thought I wrote this down and I didn't,

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 3>so I'm looking it up again. The the African American policeman.

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 3>Did you recognize him?

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm I'm looking it up right now. He I

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 3>can't believe I looked it up. And I thought I

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 3>wrote it down. Apparently I didn't. He's been in everything, yeah,

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 3>like every he's like, I know, did you recognize him?

0:50:50.800 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I did, but I didn't. I couldn't. I didn't place him.

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, I made an assumption, was like, oh

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my god, he was a policeman character for years in

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Melrose because I recognize him, and I was like, oh,

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I have I have storylines with him coming up in

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>season two, three, four and five or something. I made

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that assumption, but I didn't actually double check that. I

0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 1>wonder if that's accurate.

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I found it all cast and crew. Yeah, he's

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 3>been in everything, And when I looked it up, I

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, that's who he is. His name, darn it,

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Nigel Gibbs. Oh yeah, Nigel Gibbs. And he was in

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 3>like if you look at his IMDb, it goes on forever.

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, that and that and that.

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:38.319
<v Speaker 3>He's one of those wonderful character actors who shows up

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:43.320
<v Speaker 3>in everything in says Los Angeles Veep Bones Risolian Isles

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 3>like it, and it just goes on all the time. Yeah,

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 3>he he probably still like he's one of the people

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 3>who never stops working and you know him, but you

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:52.279
<v Speaker 3>can't figure out from what.

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Well and I do. I am hoping and I'm assuming

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see him later, like he shows, he's recurring,

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like he's in La cop up for you know, these

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>years on Nulra's place. And he'll be back because guess what,

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Sydney encountered the police. Lots of times when I feel

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like Joe thrown.

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 2>In the clinker a couple of times.

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Clinker.

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 2>We'll see the clink the clinker. All right, let's keep going.

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>They've got questions mm hmmm, and Paul has now lodged

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a complaint. So Jake explains that the police that Paul

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 1>had been harassing Sandy and then they're pretty sure he'd

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 1>broken into her apartment. And this that Jane and Sandy

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>are watching Jake have this conversation police in the courtyard,

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and that's finally Michael apologizes to Sandy, saying, you know,

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I didn't believe you. I guess it was

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Now she's worried that Jake's going to be

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in trouble for this. She says she doesn't really know

0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what to do, but she has to do something. So

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this is like one of those examples to me, like

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>one of you brought it up earlier, like if you

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.399
<v Speaker 1>what did he actually do? Like you know this idea, like, well,

0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>what did he actually do? Like so he put flowers

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:02.839
<v Speaker 1>in your or oh so he left you a lot

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of phone messages like none of those things.

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Are to them cans right, none of them count to

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 2>like terrorizing her, terrorizing her, that's what he did.

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, flowers, like I asked, I asked a friend

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of mine, she's a she's a DA attorney, and she's like,

0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, like what recourse? What power do women have

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like in this sort of thing, Like would you go, well,

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to show for it. And she was pointing

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>out that like what we have now that we didn't

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>have then and that Sandy didn't have then is a

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:36.759
<v Speaker 1>cell phone like a camera at all times, Like photographic

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 1>proof of these things is so much more powerful than

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>anything anything we had in the nineties, you know, than

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>just her word exactly, and the idea that that you

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 1>can photograph, you can record a conversation, you can photograph

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the evidence of these things and when they're cumulative, they

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>all add up to tell the story. And beyond that,

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like that.

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 3>The suspect or a perpetrator or whatever has to somehow

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 3>have been informed that the person feels in danger or

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:17.240
<v Speaker 3>threatened and feel scared like did and with that knowledge,

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 3>and that's like the proof that in order to press

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 3>charges or find somebody guilty of stalking or whatever, that

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 3>the part of that equation is having a jury believe

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 3>that the stalker knew that his behavior was scaring the person.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, just like all those points are in this

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 3>story where the police are like, well, there's nothing really

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 3>we can do, so he did this whatever, But then

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, Jake's the one in trouble because

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 3>he went out and punched a guy and that's you know, assault.

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:52.240
<v Speaker 3>So well, exactly, it sounds like you're saying the laws

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 3>are a little stronger now. Yeah, a training order, but

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 3>it's still not strong enough because exactly, people can get

0:54:58.080 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 3>away with way too much. You shouldn't be able to

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 3>threaten somebody for no reason, and even people get threatened online.

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But it's more just like what are the what are

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that a woman can do to protect herself,

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>or like, what are the things that are first of all,

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>they you know, we didn't have the phones in the nineties,

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>so we didn't have that ability, that tool. But also

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 1>just like knowing that that informing somebody that they're frightening

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you and that it feels threatening, that that is such

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>an important piece of the equation.

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Which isn'tsane, okay, is that anybody's natural instinct is to

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 2>go to the threat and say you're you're scaring me. Yeah,

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel the recourse for you to stop is for

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 2>me to admit that that that overpowering me is working.

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Like that's ridiculous.

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's it's Yeah.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, again, you wouldn't wish this on anybody, and exactly

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 3>for any people.

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what Sandy said. She says, I don't know what

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to do, but I have to do something.

0:55:55.640 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we go find that Allison is back at

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the car dealerships, getting next to her red convertible and yay.

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 3>So close.

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 1>She tells Billy that she's not gonna name any more cars,

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that she's trying to take steps in that direction, and

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:14.160
<v Speaker 1>she tells Billy, do not look for hidden meanings in

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, do not look for a deeper thing.

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 3>I will say they did a good job in this

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 3>episode too, the writer's having this very intense storyline and

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 3>the super light, no steak storyline, right, they do that

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:26.280
<v Speaker 3>all the time.

0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>They do.

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do a good job. This one really felt

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.399
<v Speaker 3>extreme to me, like from the stalking to the will

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 3>she sell her.

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Card name Betsy?

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Will she not?

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 3>It was so low stakes, which was fun, like low

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 3>steaks fun. You said, they usually do it well, like

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>should I get an abortion.

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 2>And tell my husband? Or should I go bungee jupping?

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 2>You know that was a perfect a job. Yeah, something

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>serious and something's light for.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Balance, Like, yeah, they do a good job of that.

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was very extreme and they do that on purpose, don't.

0:56:56.320 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 1>They They do Yeah. So, uh so at the end

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.439
<v Speaker 1>of the scene, the salesman comes back with not enough

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>money to offer for Betsy and so I'm sorry the

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 1>used car so that it doesn't reflect the price Alison

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>agreed on and she's frustrated, but she's not going to

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 1>sign the papers for that, and you know what, I

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just not ready. We're not going to sell

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the car. Not happening, So.

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Isn't it on a tow truck being towed away?

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Yet started to take it away? And she's like, get

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it off the truck.

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm my baby, I'm.

0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Just not ready. So then we find out what Sandy's

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 1>decided to do is show up to the nursery and

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>confront Paul herself. So he's standing there talking to the

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>owner in a conversation, uh with the woman owner, and

0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and she walks right in the conversation. Sandy tells Paul

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to drop the charges against Jake. Paul tells Sandy, but

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I love.

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 2>You, but I love that she finally is saying this

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 2>with a witness there, missus Sullivan was it her name?

0:57:59.040 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Who owns the.

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Place, Sullivan's Nursery.

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do this later, he says, And she's like, no,

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing it right now. Did you know that your

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 2>employee has done this this? And that he's obsessive, he's

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 2>a stalker, you know.

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Finally she's standing up for herself with a witness, witness,

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 3>and she's not backing down.

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that about her.

0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is why it's so great that it didn't

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 3>stop with the yummy caveman moment of Jake punching him out, Like,

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 3>it's so great that then she gets to go in

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 3>power and stand up for herself.

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in the light of day, without any fights. I'm

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 2>just telling you, and kept calling him on it. I

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>loved it.

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was great, really well done, and he he

0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>agrees to leave her alone, he says, and so Sandy

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 1>walks away, and then as she's walking away at her back,

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 1>he says, very quietly, I'm sorry. We don't even know

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 1>if she even hears it, but like she does, he

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>does apologize. Like, I don't know, as an audience member,

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>if I don't necessarily feel like, oh that door is closed,

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I still feel pretty creeped.

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Out by But that's a good point. Yeah.

0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, at least Sandy's you know, he's he's on he's

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>on record, he's on alert. The police know about it,

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the boss knows about it, Jake knows about it. I

0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, Sandy's got some help now. But anyway,

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>so ragget shooter, Sandy's working. Jake shows up to tell

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Sandy that the charges against him were now dropped. Yay,

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 1>but he does say, you know, this was stupid of.

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 2>You to go after Paul alone, and not as stupid

0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:24.920
<v Speaker 2>as me to break an entering in the middle of

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.520
<v Speaker 2>the night and go puny face yeah, I could be

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.560
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the day, the place was open.

0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 2>You walk in and you tell him you just won't

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:34.959
<v Speaker 2>have it anymore and you call him out in front

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 2>of witnesses. That was dumb, but.

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a place for both maybe.

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And at the end of that, he offers to

0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>walk her home again, not because he has to, but

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:47.920
<v Speaker 1>because he wants to.

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's sweet.

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So then closure on Billy and Allison's story, Billy

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 1>is awake in the middle of the night on the couch.

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.760
<v Speaker 1>He's watching a horror movie while eating ice cream, looks

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<v Speaker 1>completely like a little kid, and Allison shows up in

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<v Speaker 1>her pajamas, saying, what are you doing? And he says, well,

1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this is something I've been doing since I was a

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<v Speaker 1>kid when I can't sleep, and Alison remarks on how

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<v Speaker 1>they both haven't really grown up and move over, makes

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<v Speaker 1>space for me. She scooches them.

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<v Speaker 3>Over right next to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Were super cute and snugly, and they are watching the

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<v Speaker 1>movie and she takes his ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Cream with Eminem's and takes his ice cream in the

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<v Speaker 3>intimacy of sharing a spoon. Boom, Hello, very cute, Mary

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<v Speaker 3>adorable And that's how the episode ends, watched He's looking

1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:47.760
<v Speaker 3>at he's looking at her, going, watched the movie, watch

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<v Speaker 3>the movie, very cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that ending.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was episode eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any kisscounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody kissed in this thing, right, not really about it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there was like creepy Paul kiss on the cheek.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no good kissing.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really a real kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like even worse than a wall apparently, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a walk. Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're continuing to love reading everybody's comments on our socials

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<v Speaker 1>and getting questions. We had a couple of fan questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what. One of the fan questions we

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<v Speaker 1>had recently was wondering how the three of us became

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<v Speaker 1>friends behind the scenes, because it was noted that on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, like Joe and Sydney rarely crossed paths, like

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<v Speaker 1>not very often, and then Alice and Sidney barely ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they were, they weren't usually the most friendly interactions.

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<v Speaker 1>But so the fans are wondering how we became actual

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<v Speaker 1>friends behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well after yeah, after.

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<v Speaker 3>We were a friendly we were all friendly then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was after, right, was it? After the reunion?

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<v Speaker 3>After the twenty fifth that we started having lunch on

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<v Speaker 3>a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think so, yes, But I also think like

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<v Speaker 1>during the show, like the shooting of the show, like

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<v Speaker 1>what the fans don't see they only see like the

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<v Speaker 1>characters on camera, like how how the characters interact, But

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<v Speaker 1>like we have all this time and trailers and sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around on the set, that it's like people are just

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<v Speaker 1>being normal. There's not like you know that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney sitting around on the set and Joe sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>the set and Alison, it's Courtney and Daphne. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people just sat around and interacted like normal people. But

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have a lot of time to do stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and socialized, like you've said in another episode, like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have time to have huge social lives and

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<v Speaker 1>go out and do stuff. And then when the show

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<v Speaker 1>was over, everybody's lives sort of went and separate directions.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was I think that the lingering feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>this this was a fond time in all of our

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<v Speaker 1>lives and like a really great group of people that

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<v Speaker 1>we feel really like there was nothing but friendship and

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<v Speaker 1>positive feelings, so that it was really easy to come

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<v Speaker 1>back around and go, Hey, when we start having this

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<v Speaker 1>reunions fifteen years later, Hey, I still really like you,

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<v Speaker 1>and like we're now adult friends in this other stage

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<v Speaker 1>of our lives. So it sort of like was a

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<v Speaker 1>friendship that developed from just being an easy relationship as

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<v Speaker 1>working people.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a nice foundation. And I think we were

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<v Speaker 2>all at the time when does human beings at that

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<v Speaker 2>time in life make friends adult friends? And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like spending all that time, you know, we were working

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and like the fan points out, if we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a lot of scenes with each other, there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a lot of interaction. But I remember doing some

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<v Speaker 2>like I stayed in touch with Grant and we worked

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<v Speaker 2>together twice after that, and or three times after that,

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<v Speaker 2>and oh am I right, I don't know anyway, And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know, with you court a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>but you went to work right away. We all had

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<v Speaker 2>our lives and then some of you had kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I know Courtney was doing other shows, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we all were at my baby shower.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know I was at your baby shower. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And trying to think of who else I may have

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in touch with, But there were these touchstones. I

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<v Speaker 2>think because the foundation of being in your late twenties

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<v Speaker 2>and thirties, early thirties, thirty I think I turned thirty

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. It was just there, I think, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And then we started to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have those reunions and we really did enjoy time now.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're so lucky. We didn't have any bad apples,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there wasn't there was no drama, there wasn't infighting.

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<v Speaker 3>We were busy, but we genuinely liked each other. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I remember seeing you guys in the makeup trailer and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes if you didn't have scenes, you go hang out

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<v Speaker 3>in the makeup trailer with each other. I hang out

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<v Speaker 3>in wardrobe. Like we genuinely liked each other. We were

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<v Speaker 3>just busy, and then we'd have I remember we had

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<v Speaker 3>a photo shoot at Entertainment Weekly ten years after. We

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<v Speaker 3>exchanged a lot of numbers. Then we had cell phones

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<v Speaker 3>because we didn't have like cell phones with texting when

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<v Speaker 3>we were first working together, and then we'd run into

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<v Speaker 3>each other. Then you start exchanging numbers and having that yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we could keep up better. So the answer

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<v Speaker 3>is always really friendly. And when we had more time,

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<v Speaker 3>we became friends. The next step because we could then

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<v Speaker 3>have lunch. Like someone sends out a text, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to have lunch, and then you can figure it out,

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<v Speaker 3>like it, it just became easier later.

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<v Speaker 1>And right, you had said something really sweet after we

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<v Speaker 1>had had Josie on our episode. You said something really sweet, Courtney.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, we were so lucky, like we just liked

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<v Speaker 1>each other, like we as a cast, we were all

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<v Speaker 1>so lucky to have the group that we had and

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<v Speaker 1>how we all felt well and.

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<v Speaker 3>So lucky that you know, we've had Grant and Josie

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<v Speaker 3>and Andrew on so far, and I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 3>have everybody on, Like our co stars are excited to

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<v Speaker 3>come to hang out for an right, it's not is

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<v Speaker 3>it good for my career? Is it whatever? It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just get together and hang out. It's an excuse

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<v Speaker 3>to get together. So I do think that's rare, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're really lucky. And what I sent the

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<v Speaker 3>text is people were liking that the show we did

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<v Speaker 3>with Josie, which it might be, yeah, it's out already,

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<v Speaker 3>and and I was saying, you know, when I watch

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<v Speaker 3>shows as a fan, I secretly hope that the casts

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<v Speaker 3>really get along because I like the relationships so much,

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, if I were listening to that podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been happy to hear that we really do, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's we root for that and we're lucky because we

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<v Speaker 3>actually have that. And I do think that's rare, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, especially the amount of hours we worked in

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<v Speaker 3>the intensity. Right, it's amazing that nobody turned back.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's we all held it together.

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<v Speaker 3>We all held it together. True.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you're looking for dirt, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to dig deeper because it's actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Well dig, well, dig if you need the dirt. But

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<v Speaker 2>we got what we got, which is like we like

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<v Speaker 2>each other, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>In the clinker.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the clinker.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all in the clinker.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>On that note, so, I think we have a we

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<v Speaker 1>have another recap to look forward to, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to seeing your faces. And one of these

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<v Speaker 1>days we might all be in the same city and

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<v Speaker 1>we can get back in person. But until then, always

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<v Speaker 1>fun to see on zoom anyway, Yeah, guys, zoom, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>good bye,