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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi guys, Hi Hi.

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Speaker 3: Laura was afraid her glasses were going to reflect the

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Speaker 3: light on zoom, and I remembered that we had a

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Speaker 3: director who had been a child star who used to

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Speaker 3: tell us chin down, chin down, ladies, and you would

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Speaker 3: do this thing as you go, see what this looks like,

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Speaker 3: see what this looks like. And then Daphney remembered her

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Speaker 3: name Nancy, because you said she was a child star.

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Speaker 3: She had blonde hair, she was full of energy.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what she said to me. She said, Daphne,

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Speaker 2: look just below the camera, like if this is the lens,

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Speaker 2: look right here and stare off and give me that

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Speaker 2: stare at the end. That's what I learned from Mickey Rooney.

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Speaker 2: So at the end of a scene when you wish

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Speaker 2: they would say cut, but they don't say cut. So

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Speaker 2: you're like, yes, oh, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Just look right.

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Speaker 1: There and think of Mickey Rooney.

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Speaker 3: But here it's a perfect They get all flushed. Do

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Speaker 3: you remember that at one point she was going through

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Speaker 3: a divorce and she would keep us there for like

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Speaker 3: eighteen hours. Do you remember that? It's like, where are

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Speaker 3: the hours along? So that she's getting a divorce, I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, never wasted. A director is going through

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Speaker 3: a divorce because they never want to go home.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, So think of who else kept us

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Speaker 2: there long?

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Speaker 3: Now? He exactly keep shooting over and over. Want people

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Speaker 3: with a happy home life because then they want to

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Speaker 3: get through the day and get home. Yes, like true,

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Speaker 3: Well that was Phil Rosenthal was famous for on Everybody

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Speaker 3: Loves Raymond. But he had a happy home life. So

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Speaker 3: they had really good hours because he wanted to get

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Speaker 3: home to his happy home life. So all the writers

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Speaker 3: got to have happy home lives. That's so cool, isn't

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Speaker 3: that sweet? And just what you think he'd.

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Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. That's a good

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Speaker 2: telltale though.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we have we have another recap this week.

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Speaker 1: It is episode eight in season one.

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Speaker 3: It's episode right, and can I ask you guys something?

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Speaker 3: So I was watching this and I was thinking, I

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Speaker 3: feel like I'm able to watch it. It's just like

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Speaker 3: Jenny and Tory said, like, I'm becoming more of a fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting more separation and I'm like, oh, I know

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Speaker 3: everyone had a crush on the guys, Like I'm suddenly

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Speaker 3: seeing them not as the guys I worked with, but

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Speaker 3: Like I'm going, oh, my goodness, there's one and we

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Speaker 3: get to what I'll say it. But but Grant had

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Speaker 3: a line where he it was just so charming and sweet,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, well, like there's I think,

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Speaker 3: I know, abjectively adorable you do when when Amy came in,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about it. We get I wrote it down,

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Speaker 3: but I'll say it when we get to because he

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Speaker 3: showed through, right, his charm showed through, and I just thought, oh,

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Speaker 3: I get it. I get why the ladies love the show.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny, Courtney, because now I'm watching scenes with

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Speaker 2: you and Andrew knowing that something already happened off camera.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very much of that in this Like in this.

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Speaker 3: Episode, I'm like, they're really close together on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we were to meet it together at this point. Yeah really,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. So you're like, can we shoot it again?

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Speaker 3: Can we shoot the scene again?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: We can see it all over the screen.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny. Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this one is season season one, episode eight.

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Speaker 1: Lonely Hearts is the title, and.

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Speaker 3: This one I remembered so clearly. Really, I remember filming

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Speaker 3: it so clearly. I remember the storyline, not my storyline,

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Speaker 3: but Amy and Matt Roth's storyline. Yeah, I remember it

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Speaker 1: I feel like the story, this story was pretty like

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Speaker 1: me that that you remember it, actually, because I think

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Speaker 1: it was a big story to tell. Yeah that that

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Speaker 1: I'm just so caught up in your personal life by

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Speaker 2: But I think, Laura, you know what you said relevant.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised that this storyline, which we'll

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Speaker 1: It's constant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally bad.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking that too, and we'll get into it.

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Speaker 3: It's basically about stalking and I watch Some might say

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Speaker 3: the cops don't have enough power to do anything when

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Speaker 3: and she's very clear from the beginning. She's very clear

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Speaker 3: from the beginning, and he just doesn't hear her. There's

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Speaker 3: too much to give away. It's so good, all right,

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Speaker 1: So it begins with Sandy and Ronda shopping in a boutique.

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Speaker 1: They're trying on hats, they're having good time. Random dude

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Speaker 1: They're having fun, but it turns out they're being watched.

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Speaker 3: Angelini's so and he's super handsome and seems super sweet,

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Speaker 2: Did you notice that?

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Speaker 1: And they clarified it for one side of it, maybe

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Speaker 3: I walked in past camera, but you never saw a window.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get past all the denim. Did you notice all.

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Speaker 1: Oh and the cowboy boots walking down the stream was

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Speaker 2: Then all these extras walk probably with all these denis

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Speaker 3: And I just bought a denim dress yesterday, so I'm

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Speaker 1: Have a denim dress too, So I think we're all yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just confirmation that the nineties fashion is now.

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Speaker 3: It's back.

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Speaker 1: It is either that or we're terribly out of touch.

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Speaker 3: We're stuck in the past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the arm I think we're I have the same.

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Speaker 3: Airdo, so I might very well be stuck in the past.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're okay, Okay. So then, uh, at the restaurant,

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Speaker 1: Finds out that he was boring. He's boring, and she

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Speaker 2: Both from a small town, like that's all that's all

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Speaker 1: In common, he's finding out where she's from. Whatever. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: That's I have a single uh and splash basically of

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really get a dressed, so just.

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Speaker 3: Highlight my cheek. You requested that, didn't you cart here?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 3: You must have said just have something, and Lorna went,

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Speaker 1: I was distracted by this smear of Greece.

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Speaker 3: It was a stripe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an elephant in the room. The stripe

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you qualify for a loan. Trust me, you

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Speaker 3: Really. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She's clearly very bored, but he, you know, he wants

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Speaker 3: Coming, boring. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So they're sharing this very boring and awkward date and

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Speaker 1: Sandy says, no, thank you to dessert. It's time. She

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Speaker 3: And of course those of us at home are going, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Red flag. Yeah they don't. They have separate cars. He

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Speaker 3: This is why boundaries are important early and strong, like

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Speaker 3: sometimes I don't work, no thank you. Then he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: And she's, you know, she's in this position of being like,

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Speaker 1: I just was trying not to be rude or trying

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Speaker 1: then when they get there.

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Speaker 2: But you guys, he would have followed her anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's what he does. And he says, oh, I'll follow you,

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Speaker 2: and it's so awkward. Who the hell does that? I'm

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Speaker 1: He was skimming the pool and we've seen him skimming

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Speaker 1: It's a short scene, and it's all the rage everyone's

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00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: wearing them. Because I don't think on that one, I

437
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: think that was Allison's business look for the day. But

438
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: the old lady who's like examining the car is very

439
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 1: in the know about all the guys must be wrong

440
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: with Betsy and she's not. She's not.

441
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: She reminded me of Aunt b Mayberry around. She says

442
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: for me, honey, no wait yea rush den Iowa all

443
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: that turns around.

444
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 3: I was like, sorry, honey, that reference is not for

445
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: our younger listeners.

446
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: Berry RFD. Look, we just we just did a really

447
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: good impression. Daphne has really good impressions. So then Sandy

448
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: is near the mailboxes and she's talking to Jake explaining

449
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 1: how like this guy is just not getting it. I was,

450
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: I was straight to the point and and uh, she's

451
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: just he's just not getting it and and uh, they

452
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: have this weird kind of conversation about their own history

453
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: is in this scene like nowhere. Yeah, it's sort of

454
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: like he throws it in about like, wait, remember when

455
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: we first met. We weren't you know, we weren't. We

456
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: were strangers just like you and this guy. We were strangers,

457
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: but we were both lonely. It was just kind of

458
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: got a little a little twisted about what we were

459
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: talking about and why. But oddly, also, then Jake tells

460
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: Sandy that she should consider why she's not giving paula chance,

461
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: Like he wants to make it kind of about him

462
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: and them, and go, is it it's because we still

463
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: have this thing, right, you should probably consider I think

464
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: I know why you're not giving paula chances because you

465
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: still have feelings for me, but you need to go much.

466
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, so it's sort of the scene sort

467
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: of became about them. It was sort of an interesting tooic.

468
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: Also, he may not be her most objective listener, like maybe.

469
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you His feelings seemed to be very caught

470
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: up in this and he wasn't really hearing what she

471
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 1: was trying to say, which is like this dude, isn't

472
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: getting the point, and I feel creeped out.

473
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, what does this have to do with

474
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 3: us dating years go? And she's like, I'm not. You

475
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: can't quite hear her.

476
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: Can I just give a plug to therapy right here?

477
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: I was told a long time ago by a friend

478
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: who did a lot of therapy herself, because I was

479
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: making the mistake of telling I think a guy that

480
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: I liked the problem and she said, you have to

481
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: know when to go to your girlfriends and when you

482
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: go to the guy you want to be. You know,

483
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: you have to know what to tell to whom like

484
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: that's not you don't tell them that your girlfriend that.

485
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: So this is an example of where if Sandy had

486
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: had help from therapy, she might know go to the

487
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: girlfriends and.

488
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 3: Not consider the sex. He's not her best person.

489
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's not her best person.

490
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: Here so we find Alison and Billy Shooters. Allison is

491
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: now wearing a vest. I will there's a vest real

492
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: vest theme. This is my week of vests, and I

493
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: think under my big stripe jacket I had a vest. See.

494
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a sign of the

495
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: times because vests are all over the place on all

496
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: the characters, so it's not just Alison, but yes, it

497
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: is noticeable once again, Alison wearing a vest and they're shooters.

498
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: They're playing a pool game and and uh he. Billy

499
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: wants to talk to Alison about the idea of her

500
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: naming her inanimate objects. Alison tells Billy that she's been

501
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: trying to sell her car, and he says, there's a

502
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: problem with having a name for your car, like, you're

503
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: too attached and what is it that you know you

504
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: you have this? What is it with naming your inanimate object?

505
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: We named our cars growing up. Our little convertible bug

506
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: was Rosy and our big station wagon was Goldie. Do

507
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 3: you want your car's name?

508
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: Growing up, we named our dogs, but not our cars.

509
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: Now well see we named our cars and not our dogs,

510
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: which is really weird. We were like, hey poodle mix,

511
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: Hey German Shepherd.

512
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: They were a category, they were a make and model.

513
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: There.

514
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: I love it.

515
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: I think, is this Laura and Court, you think this

516
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: is where he's bringing up the theme of growing up

517
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: and being a child and leaving home because the car

518
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: kind of represents, you know, leaving home. She came out

519
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: in that car and this hole where this This is

520
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: a theme throughout with these two. You know, it's a

521
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: different place. They end in a different place kind of.

522
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: Also, things grew up differently. Yeah, Also they grew up

523
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: with me like Billy. I feel like Alison really had

524
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 3: to do everything on her own and Billy didn't. I

525
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: think this is a theme between them all the time too,

526
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: Like she had to save money to earn this car

527
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: and buy this car and he seemed to be given more.

528
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: So that's and isn't he between them?

529
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Isn't he? Also sort of like trying to say, like

530
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: you have more of an attachment to objects than you

531
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: do to people, Like you don't open up and trust

532
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: me as a person, but you yet you name your

533
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: inanimate objects like you're more. You have this atta atachment

534
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: to a car and you give it a name, Like

535
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: he's sort of questioning that instead of like, Hey, what

536
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: about me people? Person? You know, like it just me

537
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: and this attachment.

538
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: I wish she'd been there to explain that to me

539
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: at the time.

540
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: It really would listen.

541
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: That would have really helped me.

542
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I sort of thought we're going to.

543
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: Shoot the next one hundred and forty episodes because no

544
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: real insight into Alison.

545
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that's a good point. I'm trying to decipher. Really,

546
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm an audience member.

547
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think he's saying, you're more

548
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: attached to your car than you are to me.

549
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like that.

550
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: That's very sweet.

551
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: But he is encouraging her by the convertible, like it's

552
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: time to move on. Let Betsy go buy the convertible.

553
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 1: Go back by the convertible. So then we cut to

554
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: Sandy who's working at Shooters and she also was wearing

555
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: a vest and she has a choker on a necklace.

556
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: When Paul walks up and he's with Matt and Rhonda

557
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: and there they've been hanging out and Sandy's like, why

558
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: get away from my friends? Like, no, those are my friends.

559
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: But Paul is inserting himself in their relationship too. He's

560
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: you know, donating trees from the nursery to the halfway house.

561
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: And so, you know, Matt and Rond are like, whoa

562
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: great guy.

563
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: I will say it was nice to see Doug. I

564
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: was like, oh, Doug.

565
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's a small appearance in this, in this Yeah,

566
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: he doesn't have enough to do in this one, not

567
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: a lot, but Sandy's frustrated and she tells Paul like,

568
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: there's nothing between us. It's over, please, don't you know.

569
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: And Jake walks in, grabs two beers and right off

570
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: the tray.

571
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: And was coming here, little man.

572
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: I tried to have a conversation with Paul. And Paul.

573
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: This is where Paul tells Jake, oh, Sandy flirted with him.

574
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: She'll come around eventually, and you know, sort of tells

575
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: his person story and Sandy assumes Jake was trying to

576
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: get rid of Paul. But instead of him going yeah,

577
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: that you know that dude's weird or whatever, he says, Sandy,

578
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: you flirted with Paul, like, he makes it like an

579
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: accusation and accuses and believes the guy.

580
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: Believes the guy. The guy can just say anything something.

581
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: Behind closed doors and on you know, voicemail or whatever,

582
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: and then says one thing, Oh, you know, she was

583
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: flirting with me, and he had really er.

584
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's two things. It's not

585
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: only that you know, he's inclined to believe the guy,

586
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: or that he just chooses not to believe her, but

587
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: that also he's sort of making it about him again.

588
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Like you flirted with him, Like he's letting his jealousy

589
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: be like what bothers them part of what bothers them?

590
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: And first of all, it's not even true. She was

591
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: just on a date. That's not you know whatever. She

592
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: tried to have a date, decided it wasn't for her

593
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: at all and was very clear about that. And he's

594
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: still like, well, you've flirted.

595
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: So I think poor Grant is in charge of having

596
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: the viewpoint of she asked for it, which would not

597
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: remotely be what Grant would say, you mean unfortunately, well ja, yeah,

598
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: but I mean Grant the actor has to be jay

599
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: to play that you ask for it, which he wouldn't.

600
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: I think he was probably fighting it the whole way.

601
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: But you know, we had to say what was written

602
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: as written. But that is what people say, right, what

603
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: did you do?

604
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: And I think but it and it's a it's a

605
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: classic story, like that's still is a thing. I think

606
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: women are what's relevant? Yeah, what were you wearing? Or

607
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: what did you do? You know, like there's always very.

608
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

609
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately yuck.

610
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: So then Sandia's leaving Shooters after her shift. She needs

611
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: to walk out in the dark, neighborhood by herself. She

612
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: says goodbye to her co workers and walks away by herself,

613
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: walking down empty streets, and it's a little creepy. She's

614
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: looking over her shoulder. She is understandably nervous, and she's

615
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: looking over her shoulder, and sure enough, we see footsteps,

616
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: we hear them, we see them with those jeans in

617
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: the boots, and they hurry as she hurries, they hurry.

618
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: So it's all very, very creepy. And that scene, I

619
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: think is just like every woman knows what that feels like,

620
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: this feeling of like I'm alone. I'm finding myself in

621
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: this weird moment where I don't feel safe, and it's

622
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: that scene really.

623
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: My got it, you know, Yeah, that was scary.

624
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Sandy comes home and she realizes when the apartment is empty, Oh,

625
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: of course, and I'm home alone because that's right. Ronda's

626
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: in Houston for this thing. And Sandy presses the answering

627
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: machine to listen to her messages, and Paul has left

628
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of messages starting at two am, and they

629
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: continue and they get more desperate, get more stocky, and

630
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: talking about how she shouldn't be out this late. So

631
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: it's terrifying, and Sandy starts crying as she's listening to.

632
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: These horrible or baby's chilling.

633
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: I was probably Sandy at this time in nineteen ninety two.

634
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I was working at restaurants, Like I was exactly this right,

635
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: like coming home late at night from working in a

636
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: restaurant or a bar and stuff, and like, I feel

637
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: like there's so much about the scenario that I was like,

638
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: oh God, I recognize that, you know, coming home to

639
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: an empty apartment or whatever, like it's dark or it's late,

640
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: or at a roommate. We had one apartment where we

641
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: came home from work, but we had a peeping tom

642
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: in one of our apartment buildings. We lived in this duplex,

643
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: and these two guys from the restaurant where we worked

644
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: lived above us, and my roommate was trying to take

645
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: a shower after work, and it wasn't even like dark

646
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: it was at this for this incident, wasn't even dark.

647
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: It's like maybe sundown or something like around eight pm

648
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: in the summer, and some dude had pulled up like

649
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: a milk crate or a box or something to stand

650
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: high enough to peek in the window. And our roommates

651
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: who are our housemates who are friends upstairs called this,

652
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: there's somebody is somebody in the shower. There's somebody trying

653
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: to look in your bathroom window. They alerted us to it,

654
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: and then so we're like, you know, Cindy's frozen in

655
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: the shower like trying to find a corner of it

656
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: where like the window doesn't have a whatever. And then

657
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: the guys are having to like yell out the window

658
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: to get this creeper guy to go away, and he

659
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: only decides to run away when they yelled at they're

660
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: calling the police or whatever, but like just that vulnerable

661
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: feeling of like being in a place, and then that

662
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: was horrible. But then we had another incident where we

663
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: were coming home late at night. We worked at a

664
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: bar together, one of these bars that closed like late

665
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: at night. Like like Sandy's doing right, She's leaving alone,

666
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: and we parked our car where we park and we're

667
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: walking up to the door of our apartment and we

668
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: had like this creeper.

669
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: Like flasher dude, like a real act of like aggression

670
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: but like just so creeping, gross flasher totally you know,

671
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: expose himself whatever.

672
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: At whatever. It was two in the morning or something

673
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: which is just the most creepy, awful feeling, you know,

674
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: and it just feels it's just such a violation and

675
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: just an assault. So anyway, I completely related to this

676
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: thing of Sandy going, you know, I love I got

677
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: to walk to my car after work and that vulnerability.

678
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: And your apartment mates helped you. Yeah, were you guys

679
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: taken by how our friend that Melra's placed like had

680
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: all the wrong answers for Sandy. I mean, she's done

681
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: this all by herself. Nobody believes her.

682
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: They say, Alwa's fine, he's charming, he's like constant. I

683
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: think that's what is so smart about the way they

684
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: wrote it, which is he charms everybody and he seems

685
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: so sweet impress everybody around, or someone starts to say

686
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: he's creepy, like, oh, you're overreacting, which, by the way,

687
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, I like Laura, when you're telling that story,

688
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: you said it was an assault, because that happened to me.

689
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: Different variations of that, and it'd be like, oh, but

690
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 3: what did he really do? But it scares you, and

691
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: it's and I think we're just trying starting to change

692
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: the vocabulary and saying, oh no, that's an assault. Yeah,

693
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: you're you're you may not be touching somebody, but you're

694
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: assaulting their sense of safety and security. And so I

695
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: think that's how he got around it. Right, So then

696
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: everyone's like, but he's so nice, what's wrong with you?

697
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: And also like, if they'd chosen a different character for

698
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: it to happen to, like a sweeter character like say Alison, right,

699
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: people would have been, oh no, poor Allison. But Sandy

700
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: has this sexy, sort of tough attitude. Yeah, so they

701
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: probably didn't jump onto her.

702
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: Welcomed it on. She brought it on herself exactly.

703
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it does, and that whole idea continues,

704
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: and we haven't gotten those scenes yet where the but

705
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: you're right that the other characters are like, well you

706
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: know they that they don't, so it does. It just

707
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: builds from here. It's not even this isn't like she's

708
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: reacting exactly, Yeah, but you're right, he's he's ingratiated himself

709
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: enough that they are sort of justified and thinking, oh,

710
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: he seems fine.

711
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: You know, you know, when that happens, it makes you wonder,

712
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: am I crazy?

713
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: Or maybe he is?

714
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: Or why am I being like this? No one else

715
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: sees it? I must be they must be right, and.

716
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: Yes, am I making a big deal out of nothing exactly?

717
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Or am I reading this wrong? It just makes you

718
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: question everything.

719
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: So that's what she does. So she takes these messages,

720
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: and she you know, she wakes up Jake and Michael

721
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: and Jane and they're listening to these phone messages together, right.

722
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: I think they're at Jane and Michael's apartment listening to

723
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: these phone messages. And and you know, Michael admits, all right,

724
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: the guy's over the deep end or whatever. And and

725
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: and then Jane has a story that she tells that

726
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: she's she was getting obscene phone calls for a week,

727
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: and she has this idea like, well, you know, if

728
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: you blow whistle, you know, they stop calling because it's

729
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable to get this loud noise in your or whatever.

730
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: And then but Michael then sort of changes his tune

731
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: and says, well, he seemed like a nice guy at

732
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: the pool, and I think, you know, I think he

733
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: just thought it was flattering. I think he just thought,

734
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, what he was doing was flattering, you know,

735
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: like that that idea. They can't really help her, except

736
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: like she's got to go back to her apartment and

737
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: she's got to go back and be alone and try

738
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: to sleep and still feeling vulnerable, and and Jake follows

739
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: her out and she says, you know, you said it

740
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: yourself wrong gender, like you're you're not really being sympathetic here,

741
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: and I don't feel good, you know, I don't feel safe.

742
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: And you know, does that mean you said it yourself

743
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: wrong gender?

744
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Because I think he said in the previous moment where

745
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: she was trying to she was trying to tell him

746
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: in the courtyard, yeah, like like I'm not interested in

747
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: this guy, and he he had like not really been

748
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: sympathetic about it. He's like, yeah, if you're looking for sympathy,

749
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: you've chosen the wrong gender. He sort of said.

750
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: About it and can't be sympathetic.

751
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh so then he it's sort of repeated again. I

752
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: thought it was a weird moment too, though, Yeah, weird.

753
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I know why it's weird.

754
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they try to circle back to it

755
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: and said, well, you set it yourself wrong gender.

756
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm he's refusing to be sympathetic then,

757
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: which is very bizarre.

758
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

759
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Anyway, so she has to go back to bed, she's

760
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: trying to sleep she can't. She's just laying there, wide awake,

761
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: and the phone continues to rings like super vulnerable feeling.

762
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: The morning, Jake is cleaning his motorcycle in the courtyard.

763
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: Billy's talking to him about Allison and wanting to bed

764
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: a new car, and Billy compares Jake and Sandy's relationship

765
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: to car buying, where Jake says it's too early for

766
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: this and partly so no, this is no, We're not

767
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: going to have that. But Jake does tell Billy here

768
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: that Sandy thinks Paul has a screw loose.

769
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: And uh.

770
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Sandy walks in Billy leaves. Sandy tells Jake that Paul

771
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: called again last night and that she's gone to the

772
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: police and that they can't do anything. So Jake now says, well,

773
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: why didn't you ask me to go to the police

774
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: with you? I believe you. I believe you now finally,

775
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, and I'll I've had experience with the police.

776
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: I've got lots of experience with the police. They not

777
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: had a handle lists And I'll take you to I

778
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: want to. I'm gonna take you to work today and

779
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick you up. I'm not gonna let you

780
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: walk home on.

781
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: So he's somehow turned a corner and he's decided to

782
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: believe her, And I think it was Billy's comment really

783
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: turned the time.

784
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, car buying, he is a wise Allison called him something,

785
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: oh wise old whatever, she called him, son of salesmen, Yeah,

786
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: a little guru. Okay. So Allison trying to sell the

787
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: car to another young customer, very sweet, sort of young

788
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: innocent person who's asking about gas mileage, and Alison's really

789
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: struggling to try to like how do I frame this?

790
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: But I really want to sell Betsy, but I also

791
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: don't want to, like, you know, sell this young girl

792
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: a world clunker and I know.

793
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: And the casting was so perfect because she did look

794
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: like a younger version of Allison. Yeah right, literally could

795
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: have been looking into her own past. It was so sweet.

796
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: And Billy's Billy innocent in the background, like rooting for

797
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Alison to like bring it home, and Alison just can't

798
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: bring herself to like.

799
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Lie, I was so relieved. I was worried that I

800
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: was going to do something horrible, but.

801
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: No, thatll are of this car.

802
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Never Allison would never do something horrible and dishonest, So

803
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: she's very honest with the girl. The girls like thanks

804
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: for being honest, and she rides away on her bike.

805
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: Was wearing like a McDonald's yeah outfit or something like

806
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: she works at fast food.

807
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Betsy may not have been better than the bike, apparently, so,

808
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: so Jake is now walking Sandy to her door after

809
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: work that night. He peeks inside and takes a look

810
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: around and gives Sandy your keys, and they are inspecting

811
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: the apartment. They find that there has been a window

812
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: left open the apartment. So that's terrifying. Somebody's been in

813
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: the apartment. Jake goes to search the apartment and in

814
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: the bedroom, Sandy finds that flower petals have been sprinkled

815
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: all over her bedroom.

816
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 3: All over.

817
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: Definitely, so he's broken in. He's done this creepy thing.

818
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: And the phone is ringing, the answer machine is picking up,

819
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: and Paul leaves a message. I mean, there's just evidence

820
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: upon evidence upon evidence upon evidence. He's leaving a message

821
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: for Sandy, and Jake picks up, and Paul panics and

822
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: hangs up. Jake says, tell me where he works. You

823
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: stay here, lock the doors, don't talk to nobody. So

824
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: he leaves to go look for.

825
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: The nursery and in this moment, even though I'm a

826
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: very evolved woman and blah blah blah, and like, oh

827
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: yeah he's gonna go beat somebody.

828
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: Yuh yeah, I protected is Yeah, I mean it is

829
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: the whole part of me.

830
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: It was all excited.

831
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a relief though that he's like

832
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: believing her, he's and he's like gonna do something about

833
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: it that she doesn't feel like she's been able to do,

834
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, Like there's there's that inherent feeling of like,

835
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: I am my impulse is not to go beat him up.

836
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't have that. Her impulse was to go to

837
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: the police. What good might that do? You know? But

838
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: like Jake's like, I got this, take it into his

839
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: own hands. So he hops the fence at the nursery.

840
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: He goes into the office and he finds Paul on

841
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: the phone and it sounds like he's leaving more messages.

842
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: And Jake punches him out falls to the ground, and

843
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: Jake threatens to kill him if he comes near Sandy again.

844
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: So that we're all like yes, and again my more

845
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 3: evolve side is saying no, but my my miner cave

846
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: woman is all a flutter. Yes, very attractive. Why is

847
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: your all the sides saying no, myvolve because like, no,

848
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: we should handle this in another way. But I'm just

849
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: saying that there's that core cave woman side of me

850
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: that's like he beats somebody up for her.

851
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: Well, just a feeling of being having some sort of like,

852
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, if he could, if there's a way to

853
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: threaten this guy back, like he's you know, he's threatening

854
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: to Sandy and she feels like she has no power.

855
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: But this physical threat may actually speak to him. We

856
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: can only hope.

857
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 2: Yes, Well, it's very Melrose. You know, he's the guy.

858
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: He's a tough guy.

859
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: It's Jake.

860
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: He's wears the T shirts and the leather thing, and

861
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: that's the only way he knows how to do it.

862
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: It's very makeouts and punch outs.

863
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: Mel. Yeah, we gotta have them both.

864
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: That's our show.

865
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: So then he he goes back to the apartment, tell

866
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Sandy that Paul won't bother her anymore, and oh, by

867
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: the way, you should stay at my place for the night,

868
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: just to be safe. And so they're laying there. I

869
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: think they're on the cap Are they on a cop?

870
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: I can't bed tell me about it. But in their clothes,

871
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: in their clothes.

872
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So it took another like crazy fast turn.

873
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: It became about them again.

874
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: It happened.

875
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, then they always they're talking and they're being nostalgic

876
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: and like sort of reminiscing about like what did happen

877
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: with us? Oh? Do you remember the first night we

878
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: were together? And is it that we're too much alike?

879
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: So it did. It turned into a whole thing about and.

880
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: I would love to hear like from our audience who

881
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: remembers that and he's watching along with us, Like did

882
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 3: the audience at that point? Were they rooting for Jake

883
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: and Sandy? Because I feel like, and I don't know

884
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: if it's just I knew all the players involved, but

885
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 3: I just keep thinking, why do we keep bringing this up? Right?

886
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: But I don't think the audience was rooting for them

887
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: at all?

888
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I'm an audience member. I wasn't there,

889
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: so like, I feel like I'm an audience member, and

890
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm not sure that I'm rooting for them.

891
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: Well, but you know, right, well you don't know Amy

892
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: because you came on after.

893
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: It, right, I mean I know them as obviously, right, right, right,

894
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: but like as the characters, like, am I rooting for

895
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: those characters to be together? I can't tell. But it's

896
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: also like they're sort of dropping the the backstory. They're

897
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: dropping it to us as they go, right, we're litning

898
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: more bits of the backstory. So this this episode is

899
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: I think we find out more, and this is how

900
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: they're revealing it is by having them reminisced together about it.

901
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Remember that first night we're together, because up until then

902
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: we didn't. We weren't really sure, like do they have

903
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: a history, what was their history? How long did it last?

904
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: Well?

905
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: I knew there was dynamic, right, but it was kind

906
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: of vague. And so I feel like this is the

907
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: episode where the writers are trying to give the audience

908
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: more information by having me it's that you brought it.

909
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: Up, Courtney, because I was thinking the same thing. And

910
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: I keep thinking, I don't know if you feel this, Laura,

911
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: because we weren't there. But I keep thinking these kids

912
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: in the that there was more, there was more that

913
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: we missed. But I realized I've watched every EPISO putting

914
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: out with you guys, right, it's not more in the past,

915
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: it's before the show started. It's backstory right, and yet

916
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm I am wondering exactly what you're wondering, Courtney. Does

917
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: the audience like this and want something to happen because

918
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: they're teasing us for sure?

919
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: Or maybe the writers were checking it out, like when

920
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: the writer remember when Grant and Allison made out and

921
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: they immediately said never mind, Like maybe that was the

922
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: plan that Andrew and I had such good chemistry that

923
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, we got it. Like they just

924
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: have to think it's so funny.

925
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: I sort of so weird. I think, I like, my,

926
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: may my. What I see is that it seemed like

927
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: they intended to have that. The Jacon Sandy be I

928
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: made balloons, you guys, I didn't even mean to do it.

929
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: This this is two fingers. You get balloons on a

930
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: zoom people, I didn't even ask for them. You got balloons. Yeah,

931
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: but remember all we're getting sidetracked again. But now remember too.

932
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: And that was so cute when you're like, I want

933
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: to join the board and you're like, nothing, so cute.

934
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: It off.

935
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: We have to change Courtney' zoom settings.

936
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: It's just computer, so mine's totally off. I'm bommed.

937
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I keep I forget to turn it off and then

938
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: here I'm talking to you guys. The next thing I know,

939
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: I've sent balloons.

940
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: That's so funny. Thank you.

941
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: So you were saying, no balloons for them?

942
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: Are balloons for them?

943
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: Laura? Balloons?

944
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, is there like a so so emoji?

945
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: Can I do like a like a emoji? Because I

946
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I feel like the intention was to

947
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: have Jake and Sandy's characters be like, oh, that's the obvious,

948
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: like bad boy and like you know, actress girl, like

949
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: that would be the match. And I think I think

950
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: that the Billy and Allison relationship, I mean that's a

951
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: no brainer for sure. All see that like we want that.

952
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 2: It's you know what's coming.

953
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Or even before, even before Courtney and Andrew knew it,

954
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: I think the writers were probably writing that like that's

955
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: the way they want you to.

956
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think you could.

957
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: I think the magical chemistry maybe.

958
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: They were trying it out. I don't know. We don't know.

959
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, because when your chemistry went boom, I'm

960
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: sure they went with it, like you say, they always

961
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: do that. I mean you see people come on with

962
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: like you're like Laura, when you came on. You said

963
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: you were only on for a couple episodes in Boom.

964
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: It worked what you did, so you stayed. So I

965
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: think they are testing stuff out. The thing I think

966
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: about Jake and Sandy is these guys are too hot,

967
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: very sexual people, and so it doesn't ring true that

968
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: they're acting like innocent, oh, trying to do it right,

969
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: like cute, and it just doesn't ring true to me.

970
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: I can just see those guys totally going at each other,

971
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 2: like it doesn't feel right that they're not I don't

972
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: get it.

973
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 1: So well, apparently that's their backstory and they did that first,

974
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: and we just don't get to see it. We just

975
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: get to talk about it and reminisce about it.

976
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: But that energy is still there.

977
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. And this night, after she's been stalked,

978
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: they're going to reminisce about their first nights together. So okay,

979
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: So the Jake tails Sanity go to sleep and they

980
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: lay their stanner and get the ceiling. So the next day,

981
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: Allison is back at her car. She's at her trunk

982
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: looking through papers. Billy runs by and Alison's feeling a

983
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: little nostalgic again and she's like, I remember when I

984
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: first got Betsy, and I've had such fond memories in

985
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: this car, like when I was.

986
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: A designated driver all the time because I never drank,

987
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: although I did lose my virginity in the becksat. I

988
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: just slid that right, oh by the way, Yeah, yeah,

989
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: so but she's don't sit in the back. Lord knows

990
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: what's there now, just like.

991
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: Like going in there, because we're looking through the hatchback

992
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: into this little, tiny, beat up, rusted out car.

993
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: And my answer is, yeah, my boyfriend didn't have a.

994
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: Car, I know.

995
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: And he's like, your answer, didn't have a basement.

996
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: There's so much more to a hotel nearby. There's a

997
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: lot of questions that should come up here, but it's

998
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: really the point is supposed to be that Allison is like,

999
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sell Betsy too many great memories,

1000
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: not to the old lady.

1001
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: Well then and then and then that very on pointline,

1002
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: but actually, sweet, why is it that every time you

1003
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: think you're grown up, something comes along to show you

1004
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: how much farther you have to go, which kind of

1005
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: defined the heart of these first episodes. Right before all

1006
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: hell breaks loose and it gets crazy, crazy fun, It's

1007
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: like we were just these kids going from early twenties

1008
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 3: into adulthood, right, So that was really sweet. Yeah, and

1009
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: I was like, that's what the show's about.

1010
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1011
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: But back in back in Jake's apartment, he's walking out

1012
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: of the bedroom fully dressed, and Sandy having a very

1013
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: domestic moment, but just in like a long man's shirt,

1014
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, very like morning after Look, she's cooking breakfast

1015
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: and she's cooking it only for him because she's going

1016
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: to be dieting, but she made him this really nice

1017
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Southern breakfast. Jake is acting surprised that the food is delicious,

1018
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: and Sandy sort of enters into another weird conversation kind

1019
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: of deep, says, you know, Jake, do you think it's

1020
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: depression or fear that brings some people together?

1021
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: Meaning a little bit.

1022
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Deep and out of the blue. But at that moment,

1023
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: the police knock at the door and ask Jake to

1024
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: step outside.

1025
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: Okay, now, I thought I wrote this down and I didn't,

1026
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: so I'm looking it up again. The the African American policeman.

1027
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: Did you recognize him?

1028
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: No?

1029
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm looking it up right now. He I

1030
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: can't believe I looked it up. And I thought I

1031
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: wrote it down. Apparently I didn't. He's been in everything, yeah,

1032
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: like every he's like, I know, did you recognize him?

1033
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: I did, but I didn't. I couldn't. I didn't place him.

1034
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: And in fact, I made an assumption, was like, oh

1035
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: my god, he was a policeman character for years in

1036
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: Melrose because I recognize him, and I was like, oh,

1037
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: I have I have storylines with him coming up in

1038
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: season two, three, four and five or something. I made

1039
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: that assumption, but I didn't actually double check that. I

1040
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: wonder if that's accurate.

1041
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I found it all cast and crew. Yeah, he's

1042
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: been in everything, And when I looked it up, I

1043
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's who he is. His name, darn it,

1044
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: Nigel Gibbs. Oh yeah, Nigel Gibbs. And he was in

1045
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: like if you look at his IMDb, it goes on forever.

1046
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, that and that and that.

1047
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: He's one of those wonderful character actors who shows up

1048
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 3: in everything in says Los Angeles Veep Bones Risolian Isles

1049
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: like it, and it just goes on all the time. Yeah,

1050
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: he he probably still like he's one of the people

1051
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: who never stops working and you know him, but you

1052
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: can't figure out from what.

1053
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: Well and I do. I am hoping and I'm assuming

1054
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: we're going to see him later, like he shows, he's recurring,

1055
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: like he's in La cop up for you know, these

1056
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: years on Nulra's place. And he'll be back because guess what,

1057
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Sydney encountered the police. Lots of times when I feel

1058
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: like I feel like Joe thrown.

1059
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: In the clinker a couple of times.

1060
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: Clinker.

1061
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: We'll see the clink the clinker. All right, let's keep going.

1062
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: They've got questions mm hmmm, and Paul has now lodged

1063
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: a complaint. So Jake explains that the police that Paul

1064
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: had been harassing Sandy and then they're pretty sure he'd

1065
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: broken into her apartment. And this that Jane and Sandy

1066
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: are watching Jake have this conversation police in the courtyard,

1067
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: and that's finally Michael apologizes to Sandy, saying, you know,

1068
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't believe you. I guess it was

1069
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: a thing. Now she's worried that Jake's going to be

1070
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: in trouble for this. She says she doesn't really know

1071
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: what to do, but she has to do something. So

1072
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: this is like one of those examples to me, like

1073
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: one of you brought it up earlier, like if you

1074
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: what did he actually do? Like you know this idea, like, well,

1075
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: what did he actually do? Like so he put flowers

1076
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: in your or oh so he left you a lot

1077
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: of phone messages like none of those things.

1078
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: Are to them cans right, none of them count to

1079
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: like terrorizing her, terrorizing her, that's what he did.

1080
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, flowers, like I asked, I asked a friend

1081
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: of mine, she's a she's a DA attorney, and she's like,

1082
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: I said, like what recourse? What power do women have

1083
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: like in this sort of thing, Like would you go, well,

1084
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing to show for it. And she was pointing

1085
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: out that like what we have now that we didn't

1086
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: have then and that Sandy didn't have then is a

1087
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: cell phone like a camera at all times, Like photographic

1088
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: proof of these things is so much more powerful than

1089
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: anything anything we had in the nineties, you know, than

1090
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: just her word exactly, and the idea that that you

1091
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: can photograph, you can record a conversation, you can photograph

1092
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: the evidence of these things and when they're cumulative, they

1093
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: all add up to tell the story. And beyond that,

1094
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: like that.

1095
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: The suspect or a perpetrator or whatever has to somehow

1096
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: have been informed that the person feels in danger or

1097
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 3: threatened and feel scared like did and with that knowledge,

1098
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: and that's like the proof that in order to press

1099
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: charges or find somebody guilty of stalking or whatever, that

1100
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: the part of that equation is having a jury believe

1101
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: that the stalker knew that his behavior was scaring the person.

1102
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: So anyway, just like all those points are in this

1103
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: story where the police are like, well, there's nothing really

1104
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: we can do, so he did this whatever, But then

1105
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Jake's the one in trouble because

1106
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: he went out and punched a guy and that's you know, assault.

1107
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: So well, exactly, it sounds like you're saying the laws

1108
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: are a little stronger now. Yeah, a training order, but

1109
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: it's still not strong enough because exactly, people can get

1110
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: away with way too much. You shouldn't be able to

1111
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: threaten somebody for no reason, and even people get threatened online.

1112
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: But it's more just like what are the what are

1113
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: the things that a woman can do to protect herself,

1114
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: or like, what are the things that are first of all,

1115
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: they you know, we didn't have the phones in the nineties,

1116
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: so we didn't have that ability, that tool. But also

1117
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: just like knowing that that informing somebody that they're frightening

1118
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: you and that it feels threatening, that that is such

1119
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: an important piece of the equation.

1120
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Which isn'tsane, okay, is that anybody's natural instinct is to

1121
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: go to the threat and say you're you're scaring me. Yeah,

1122
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: I feel the recourse for you to stop is for

1123
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: me to admit that that that overpowering me is working.

1124
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: Like that's ridiculous.

1125
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's Yeah.

1126
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: Anyway, again, you wouldn't wish this on anybody, and exactly

1127
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: for any people.

1128
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: That's what Sandy said. She says, I don't know what

1129
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: to do, but I have to do something.

1130
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1131
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: So anyway, we go find that Allison is back at

1132
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: the car dealerships, getting next to her red convertible and yay.

1133
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: So close.

1134
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: She tells Billy that she's not gonna name any more cars,

1135
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: that she's trying to take steps in that direction, and

1136
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: she tells Billy, do not look for hidden meanings in

1137
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, do not look for a deeper thing.

1138
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: I will say they did a good job in this

1139
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: episode too, the writer's having this very intense storyline and

1140
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: the super light, no steak storyline, right, they do that

1141
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 3: all the time.

1142
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: They do.

1143
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do a good job. This one really felt

1144
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 3: extreme to me, like from the stalking to the will

1145
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: she sell her.

1146
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: Card name Betsy?

1147
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: Will she not?

1148
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: Like?

1149
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: It was so low stakes, which was fun, like low

1150
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: steaks fun. You said, they usually do it well, like

1151
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: should I get an abortion.

1152
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: And tell my husband? Or should I go bungee jupping?

1153
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: You know that was a perfect a job. Yeah, something

1154
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: serious and something's light for.

1155
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: Balance, Like, yeah, they do a good job of that.

1156
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1157
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was very extreme and they do that on purpose, don't.

1158
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: They They do Yeah. So, uh so at the end

1159
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: of the scene, the salesman comes back with not enough

1160
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: money to offer for Betsy and so I'm sorry the

1161
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: used car so that it doesn't reflect the price Alison

1162
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: agreed on and she's frustrated, but she's not going to

1163
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: sign the papers for that, and you know what, I

1164
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: guess I'm just not ready. We're not going to sell

1165
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: the car. Not happening, So.

1166
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: Isn't it on a tow truck being towed away?

1167
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Yet started to take it away? And she's like, get

1168
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: it off the truck.

1169
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm my baby, I'm.

1170
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Just not ready. So then we find out what Sandy's

1171
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: decided to do is show up to the nursery and

1172
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: confront Paul herself. So he's standing there talking to the

1173
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: owner in a conversation, uh with the woman owner, and

1174
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: and she walks right in the conversation. Sandy tells Paul

1175
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: to drop the charges against Jake. Paul tells Sandy, but

1176
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: I love.

1177
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: You, but I love that she finally is saying this

1178
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: with a witness there, missus Sullivan was it her name?

1179
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Who owns the.

1180
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: Place, Sullivan's Nursery.

1181
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this later, he says, And she's like, no,

1182
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing it right now. Did you know that your

1183
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: employee has done this this? And that he's obsessive, he's

1184
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: a stalker, you know.

1185
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: Finally she's standing up for herself with a witness, witness,

1186
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: and she's not backing down.

1187
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that about her.

1188
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is why it's so great that it didn't

1189
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: stop with the yummy caveman moment of Jake punching him out, Like,

1190
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: it's so great that then she gets to go in

1191
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: power and stand up for herself.

1192
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the light of day, without any fights. I'm

1193
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: just telling you, and kept calling him on it. I

1194
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: loved it.

1195
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great, really well done, and he he

1196
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: agrees to leave her alone, he says, and so Sandy

1197
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: walks away, and then as she's walking away at her back,

1198
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: he says, very quietly, I'm sorry. We don't even know

1199
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: if she even hears it, but like she does, he

1200
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: does apologize. Like, I don't know, as an audience member,

1201
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: if I don't necessarily feel like, oh that door is closed,

1202
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: I still feel pretty creeped.

1203
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 3: Out by But that's a good point. Yeah.

1204
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: Anyway, at least Sandy's you know, he's he's on he's

1205
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: on record, he's on alert. The police know about it,

1206
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: the boss knows about it, Jake knows about it. I

1207
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, Sandy's got some help now. But anyway,

1208
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: so ragget shooter, Sandy's working. Jake shows up to tell

1209
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 1: Sandy that the charges against him were now dropped. Yay,

1210
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: but he does say, you know, this was stupid of.

1211
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: You to go after Paul alone, and not as stupid

1212
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: as me to break an entering in the middle of

1213
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: the night and go puny face yeah, I could be

1214
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of the day, the place was open.

1215
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: You walk in and you tell him you just won't

1216
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 2: have it anymore and you call him out in front

1217
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: of witnesses. That was dumb, but.

1218
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: I love it.

1219
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: There's a place for both maybe.

1220
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. And at the end of that, he offers to

1221
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: walk her home again, not because he has to, but

1222
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: because he wants to.

1223
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet.

1224
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then closure on Billy and Allison's story, Billy

1225
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: is awake in the middle of the night on the couch.

1226
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: He's watching a horror movie while eating ice cream, looks

1227
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: completely like a little kid, and Allison shows up in

1228
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: her pajamas, saying, what are you doing? And he says, well,

1229
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: this is something I've been doing since I was a

1230
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: kid when I can't sleep, and Alison remarks on how

1231
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: they both haven't really grown up and move over, makes

1232
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: space for me. She scooches them.

1233
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: Over right next to him.

1234
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Were super cute and snugly, and they are watching the

1235
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: movie and she takes his ice.

1236
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: Cream with Eminem's and takes his ice cream in the

1237
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: intimacy of sharing a spoon. Boom, Hello, very cute, Mary

1238
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: adorable And that's how the episode ends, watched He's looking

1239
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: at he's looking at her, going, watched the movie, watch

1240
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: the movie, very cute.

1241
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 2: I love that ending.

1242
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: So that was episode eight.

1243
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: I didn't see any kisscounts.

1244
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Nobody kissed in this thing, right, not really about it.

1245
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: No, there was like creepy Paul kiss on the cheek.

1246
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: There was no good kissing.

1247
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Not really a real kiss.

1248
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1249
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: It was like even worse than a wall apparently, so.

1250
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: It was a walk. Yeah, all right.

1251
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: We're continuing to love reading everybody's comments on our socials

1252
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: and getting questions. We had a couple of fan questions.

1253
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had.

1254
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Oh you know what. One of the fan questions we

1255
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: had recently was wondering how the three of us became

1256
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: friends behind the scenes, because it was noted that on

1257
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: the show, like Joe and Sydney rarely crossed paths, like

1258
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: not very often, and then Alice and Sidney barely ever,

1259
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: and when they were, they weren't usually the most friendly interactions.

1260
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: But so the fans are wondering how we became actual

1261
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: friends behind the scenes.

1262
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: Well after yeah, after.

1263
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: We were a friendly we were all friendly then, yeah,

1264
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: but it was after, right, was it? After the reunion?

1265
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: After the twenty fifth that we started having lunch on

1266
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: a regular basis.

1267
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think so, yes, But I also think like

1268
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: during the show, like the shooting of the show, like

1269
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: what the fans don't see they only see like the

1270
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: characters on camera, like how how the characters interact, But

1271
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: like we have all this time and trailers and sitting

1272
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: around on the set, that it's like people are just

1273
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: being normal. There's not like you know that it's not

1274
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: Sidney sitting around on the set and Joe sitting around

1275
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: the set and Alison, it's Courtney and Daphne. I think

1276
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: people just sat around and interacted like normal people. But

1277
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of time to do stuff

1278
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: and socialized, like you've said in another episode, like we

1279
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: didn't really have time to have huge social lives and

1280
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: go out and do stuff. And then when the show

1281
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: was over, everybody's lives sort of went and separate directions.

1282
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: But it was I think that the lingering feeling like

1283
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: this this was a fond time in all of our

1284
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: lives and like a really great group of people that

1285
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: we feel really like there was nothing but friendship and

1286
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: positive feelings, so that it was really easy to come

1287
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: back around and go, Hey, when we start having this

1288
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: reunions fifteen years later, Hey, I still really like you,

1289
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: and like we're now adult friends in this other stage

1290
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: of our lives. So it sort of like was a

1291
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: friendship that developed from just being an easy relationship as

1292
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: working people.

1293
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: It was a nice foundation. And I think we were

1294
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: all at the time when does human beings at that

1295
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 2: time in life make friends adult friends? And I feel

1296
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Speaker 2: like spending all that time, you know, we were working

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Speaker 2: a lot, and like the fan points out, if we

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of scenes with each other, there

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01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of interaction. But I remember doing some

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01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: like I stayed in touch with Grant and we worked

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: together twice after that, and or three times after that,

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: and oh am I right, I don't know anyway, And

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, with you court a couple of times,

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01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: but you went to work right away. We all had

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01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: our lives and then some of you had kids, and

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01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, I know Courtney was doing other shows, and I.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all were at my baby shower.

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01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: I think I know I was at your baby shower. Yeah,

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: And trying to think of who else I may have

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01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: stayed in touch with, But there were these touchstones. I

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01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: think because the foundation of being in your late twenties

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01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: and thirties, early thirties, thirty I think I turned thirty

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: on the show. It was just there, I think, you

1314
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then we started to.

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Speaker 3: Have those reunions and we really did enjoy time now.

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Speaker 3: But we're so lucky. We didn't have any bad apples,

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 3: Like there wasn't there was no drama, there wasn't infighting.

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Speaker 3: We were busy, but we genuinely liked each other. Like

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing you guys in the makeup trailer and

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Speaker 3: sometimes if you didn't have scenes, you go hang out

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01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: in the makeup trailer with each other. I hang out

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 3: in wardrobe. Like we genuinely liked each other. We were

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: just busy, and then we'd have I remember we had

1324
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: a photo shoot at Entertainment Weekly ten years after. We

1325
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 3: exchanged a lot of numbers. Then we had cell phones

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01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: because we didn't have like cell phones with texting when

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: we were first working together, and then we'd run into

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: each other. Then you start exchanging numbers and having that yeah,

1329
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: you know, we could keep up better. So the answer

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01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: is always really friendly. And when we had more time,

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01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 3: we became friends. The next step because we could then

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Speaker 3: have lunch. Like someone sends out a text, you want

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01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 3: to have lunch, and then you can figure it out,

1334
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Speaker 3: like it, it just became easier later.

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Speaker 1: And right, you had said something really sweet after we

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Speaker 1: had had Josie on our episode. You said something really sweet, Courtney.

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Speaker 1: You're like, we were so lucky, like we just liked

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Speaker 1: each other, like we as a cast, we were all

1339
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: so lucky to have the group that we had and

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Speaker 1: how we all felt well and.

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Speaker 3: So lucky that you know, we've had Grant and Josie

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: and Andrew on so far, and I can't wait to

1343
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: have everybody on, Like our co stars are excited to

1344
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: come to hang out for an right, it's not is

1345
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: it good for my career? Is it whatever? It's like,

1346
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 3: let's just get together and hang out. It's an excuse

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01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: to get together. So I do think that's rare, and

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Speaker 3: I think we're really lucky. And what I sent the

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 3: text is people were liking that the show we did

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Speaker 3: with Josie, which it might be, yeah, it's out already,

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01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: and and I was saying, you know, when I watch

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01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: shows as a fan, I secretly hope that the casts

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 3: really get along because I like the relationships so much,

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01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: And I said, if I were listening to that podcast,

1355
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 3: I would have been happy to hear that we really do, right,

1356
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 3: it's we root for that and we're lucky because we

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: actually have that. And I do think that's rare, Yeah,

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 3: for sure, especially the amount of hours we worked in

1359
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: the intensity. Right, it's amazing that nobody turned back.

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: Nobody's we all held it together.

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: We all held it together. True.

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you're looking for dirt, we're gonna have

1363
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: to dig deeper because it's actually.

1364
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: Well dig, well, dig if you need the dirt. But

1365
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: we got what we got, which is like we like

1366
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: each other, it's.

1367
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: In the clinker.

1368
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: It's in the clinker.

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: We were all in the clinker.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: On that note, so, I think we have a we

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Speaker 1: have another recap to look forward to, and I always

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01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing your faces. And one of these

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Speaker 1: days we might all be in the same city and

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: we can get back in person. But until then, always

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: fun to see on zoom anyway, Yeah, guys, zoom, all right,

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Speaker 1: good bye,