Speaker 1: We're seeing on one of the largest slave trades in
Speaker 1: human history, and it's happening at the hands of Mexican cartels.
Speaker 1: Remember when we told us that the Trump administration was
Speaker 1: evil for enforcing the border. How is this not evil?
Speaker 1: What's happening today under the Biden administration with unfederal illegal immigration,
Speaker 1: with fentanyl crossing over the border, which is now the
Speaker 1: number one killer for adults eighteen to forty five. Roughly
Speaker 1: three Americans die every single day from fentanyl overdoses. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about the average plane carries around a
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight people. Can you imagine what would
Speaker 1: happen in the media in this country if a plane
Speaker 1: crash happened every single day killing that many Americans? Would
Speaker 1: there be an uproar? Why isn't there more of an
Speaker 1: uproar when it comes to fentanyl and what's happening with that.
Speaker 1: We're going to discuss all of this with Jack Postovic,
Speaker 1: who is part of Turning Point USA's new docuseries, Border Battle,
Speaker 1: which gets into all these different topics. It's a six
Speaker 1: part series. They get into the issues of the cartel,
Speaker 1: what's happening at the border, the Fentinel crisis as well.
Speaker 1: And did you know it's not just the Mexican cartels,
Speaker 1: China plays a role in all of this as well.
Speaker 1: The docuseries also covers border states like Arizona and Texas
Speaker 1: and then concludes with their solution on how to address
Speaker 1: the problem. We're also talked to Jack. He's a fellow
Speaker 1: and vaccinated American like myself. I'm gonna talk to him
Speaker 1: about that in Ukraine as well. You guys know Jack,
Speaker 1: You're probably familiar with his work. He's a senior editor
Speaker 1: at a Human Events, but he's also worked in intelligence.
Speaker 1: Right He's a veteran intelligence officer of the United States
Speaker 1: Navy and when he completed his final deployment as the
Speaker 1: intelligence director for Navy Expeditionary Forces Command, Pacific Task Force
Speaker 1: seventy five. Try saying that five times fast. But he's
Speaker 1: got a really interesting background and it's perfect for this
Speaker 1: conversation because he understands both domestic issues, particularly having worked
Speaker 1: on this new docuseries called Border Battle, but also with
Speaker 1: his national security back ground as well and how those
Speaker 1: two issues converge. So it's going to be an interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say
Speaker 1: so with that Jack postabic. So Jack, it's gonna have
Speaker 1: you on the show, my fellow and vaccinated American. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: still don't regret it. By the way, still don't regret it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jack, we nailed that one. You know, it's
Speaker 1: funny enough. I don't know anyone who's unvaccinated and regrets it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever met one person who's actually said that
Speaker 1: phrase to you? I don't. I I don't regret it.
Speaker 1: If anything, we look like the smartest people, especially when
Speaker 1: you've got Florida surgeon in general finding out that there's
Speaker 1: an eighty four percent increase in cardiac related deaths eighteen
Speaker 1: to thirty nine year old males within twenty eight days
Speaker 1: following m R and a vaccination. So I think obviously
Speaker 1: as a woman, but well, at Lisa, you better be
Speaker 1: careful right there. Go check your pal account because I
Speaker 1: think you're deducted maybe twice, so I grew up to
Speaker 1: five thousand. Now just we've only been on the interview
Speaker 1: for one minute, but it's already it's very expensive. This
Speaker 1: is very costly. But we nailed that one, right, and
Speaker 1: we we we all knew this, you know, we had
Speaker 1: questions people try to shut us down and they try
Speaker 1: to smear you with names. But now it's finally coming
Speaker 1: to light and I think it'll continue. But which, by
Speaker 1: the way, just throw out Look, I was in the military,
Speaker 1: right so, I was in the Navy. When when you
Speaker 1: go on deployment, I was deployed to Guantanamo Bay, I
Speaker 1: was around detainees, etcetera. I mean, you get vaccines like
Speaker 1: crazy before you go even just rowing boot camp, you
Speaker 1: walk down vaccine alley, left side, right side, left side,
Speaker 1: right side, and then before you go on deployment, of
Speaker 1: course you get a whole other slew of vaccine. So
Speaker 1: for me, it was never like this blanket anti vaccine thing.
Speaker 1: I just looked at the situation. I looked at the
Speaker 1: data when the vaccine rollout and started coming. I had
Speaker 1: already had covid ones before my wife had had and
Speaker 1: my wife was pregnant at the time. Um, and we
Speaker 1: were perfectly fine. I mean, sure, we were sick for
Speaker 1: a couple of days, and you know, it is what
Speaker 1: it is. But I couldn't, for the life of me,
Speaker 1: understand that if we'd already had it, why do we
Speaker 1: need a vaccine for something we've already had very smart
Speaker 1: and makes a lot of sense because natural immunity has
Speaker 1: long been a thing until it wasn't with COVID, which
Speaker 1: is quite odd. But you know, for me, it was
Speaker 1: just I'm young and healthy and so statistically I was
Speaker 1: never at risk. And then when we started realizing that
Speaker 1: it didn't stop transmission, It's like, what's the point, right,
Speaker 1: Why am I getting something I don't need when m
Speaker 1: R and A is new too and it doesn't stop transmission. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I've got a friend, um, you know, who has throat
Speaker 1: cancer and this is something that he's been dealing with
Speaker 1: fighting it. He's doing much better with than remission. But
Speaker 1: guess what, he got every single vaccine, every single booster
Speaker 1: as it rolled out, he goes around double triple mass
Speaker 1: because you know what, if he catches one whiff of
Speaker 1: this thing, he's done for he's a goner. So it
Speaker 1: made sense for him, right, But you know, if you're
Speaker 1: young and healthy, it didn't. Yet they lied to us
Speaker 1: about the transmission aspect it because they wanted people to
Speaker 1: get it. You know, I wanted to ask you before
Speaker 1: we get to your doc, your do Q series that
Speaker 1: just came out, what kind of consequences do you think
Speaker 1: there should be for those individuals who intentionally lied to us,
Speaker 1: whether it be public officials or big pharma. Well, what's
Speaker 1: amazing to me is and of course we're we're seeing
Speaker 1: the the you know, as we record this today, we're
Speaker 1: watching the numbers on this Alex Jones lawsuit roll in
Speaker 1: and he's looking at a billion dollars and damages. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be reduced or not,
Speaker 1: but let's just hold that for where it is. And
Speaker 1: and we're told that the news standard is that if
Speaker 1: you're a media figure and you say something incorrect, that
Speaker 1: you can be sued for hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: almost a billion dollars. Okay, So where's the class action
Speaker 1: lawsuit for every single member of the media, whether you
Speaker 1: be on CNN, MSNBC or other who told me that
Speaker 1: the vaccine stopped transmission? And then we have testimony in
Speaker 1: the European Union Parliament of Fiser coming out and say
Speaker 1: they didn't even test for it before it went to market.
Speaker 1: So now we can all go as a class Certainly
Speaker 1: everyone who lost their job, everyone who has kicked out
Speaker 1: of the military, arry that's direct damages. That you can
Speaker 1: show right there. So I think every single one of
Speaker 1: them should join together as a class for this. Or
Speaker 1: people who have died or or you know from on
Speaker 1: behalf of their family members or injured, you know, have
Speaker 1: been vaccine injured as well, which I'm not done even
Speaker 1: get into the vaccine injured. Yea, So family members, someone
Speaker 1: who's been injured, anyone who's had an adverse effect, these
Speaker 1: blood clots that we're seeing all over the place, Athletes,
Speaker 1: young athletes, many cases. Um, you run a Google news
Speaker 1: search right now for suddenly died and then just get
Speaker 1: it so that it's right around it's two, and then
Speaker 1: run one and you'll see the results that speak for itself. Well.
Speaker 1: And look at VARs too, especially comparatively speaking to previous
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been more dust from the COVID vaccine
Speaker 1: alone on varis than you know, I think, like twenty
Speaker 1: years combined for every other vaccine. So, but I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this new docuseries. That turning
Speaker 1: point is that with that you were out with called
Speaker 1: Border Battle, and which is particularly helpful given your national
Speaker 1: security background as well. You know, we're sitting right now
Speaker 1: New York City, Washington, d c cities across America are
Speaker 1: now border towns. And you know, every every town in
Speaker 1: America is a border town right now. This is a
Speaker 1: six part series. How much damage has this unfettered illegal
Speaker 1: immigration under the Biden administration done to the country. Well,
Speaker 1: so you're looking at damages in terms of not only
Speaker 1: the deaths from fentin al which is coming in across
Speaker 1: which is the number one in some of these states.
Speaker 1: It's becoming the number one killer of four year old nails,
Speaker 1: is fentanyl death overdose. We're also seeing in terms of
Speaker 1: the rape and child sex slavery that goes in across
Speaker 1: this border every single day. That's going on undebated. So
Speaker 1: take the you know, the politics out of it. We
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on across our border. And
Speaker 1: what's incredible with this docu series that we put together
Speaker 1: with Turning Point USA, it's a sale now. It's all
Speaker 1: over the place that we've got active duty border patrol members,
Speaker 1: active duty border sheriffs, active duty mility in some cases
Speaker 1: military or just out of the military that are coming
Speaker 1: forward to talk about their true stories. Um sometimes whistleblowers
Speaker 1: or even have to come up you know, using the
Speaker 1: old you know Cone event anonymity and showing them in silhouette, etcetera,
Speaker 1: and using voice changing techniques because they're not allowed to
Speaker 1: say publicly what they know is going on every single
Speaker 1: day there because they can see under this administration, they
Speaker 1: are not told to defend the border anymore. Right, They're
Speaker 1: essentially are welcome force. Is that when they get people across,
Speaker 1: they put them into the system, then the system goes
Speaker 1: and you can ferry them around. And of course you've
Speaker 1: seen some of the governors kind of use this to
Speaker 1: to enact some political gains. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic
Speaker 1: because the system has not been fixed, or we can
Speaker 1: move stuff around and get some attention to it. And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's useful. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: this system is going acrossible because we are so focused
Speaker 1: on a country right now at the crisis in Ukraine,
Speaker 1: the regional crisis in Ukraine. We're funding Ukrainians, We're giving
Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars to the government to their
Speaker 1: military to defend their borders. Okay, but we've got a
Speaker 1: crisis right now and we're not even looking at it.
Speaker 1: The right way, because there's still this narrative out there
Speaker 1: although these are just people who are looking for a
Speaker 1: better opportunity, they're just looking for a better life. We
Speaker 1: got to owe it to them. We're a nation of immigrants.
Speaker 1: Will bring up Christopher Columbus and stolen land and just
Speaker 1: had a Columbus that actually today is you know, the
Speaker 1: real anniversary of Otber twelve and recording this and the
Speaker 1: the idea is it's not just people coming across, it's cartels.
Speaker 1: You have to understand this is a cartel operation. And
Speaker 1: the fact that those northern states of Mexico, those northern
Speaker 1: the northern provinces, they're not controlled by the federal government
Speaker 1: of Mexico. They're controlled by warring and competing cartels. So
Speaker 1: you have the cartels which control their own territory directly.
Speaker 1: They're not operating within the government obviously within the confines
Speaker 1: of the government of Mexico. UM you could argue whether
Speaker 1: or not, uh, some of the us UM intelligence community
Speaker 1: has any any sort of history there. But what we're
Speaker 1: seeing our cartel wars that are now spilling over not
Speaker 1: just across the border, but all the way up to
Speaker 1: places like Phoenix, like Dallas, like Santa Fe, New Mexico, Albuquerque.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everyone can see Breaking Bad and better
Speaker 1: call Saul and see the reality of this and say, guys,
Speaker 1: it's not just a TV show. This is happening in Cicario,
Speaker 1: is not just a movie. This is happening every single
Speaker 1: day to people who live right here in our own country.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about and and and by the way,
Speaker 1: I'll just you know, I'm always supposed to throw it
Speaker 1: out there, not as a you know, trigger warning or whatever,
Speaker 1: but this is a very graphic documentary and we pull
Speaker 1: no punches. Um. There are images and videos in the
Speaker 1: that are not made for little azan ears. Because you
Speaker 1: see the cartel houses, the hit houses, the kill houses.
Speaker 1: You see the Los Aidas and some of these other
Speaker 1: organizations that use some of the most brutal methods that
Speaker 1: you'll see anywhere in this hemisphere. It looks like an
Speaker 1: isis video of what they're doing to men, women and
Speaker 1: children and houses right here inside the continental United States
Speaker 1: of America. When they want to send a message to
Speaker 1: anyone else who thinks, oh, you don't have to pay
Speaker 1: the coyote back, or oh you tried to escape, can
Speaker 1: you give us an example of that of you know,
Speaker 1: something that they've done. So there is one video we
Speaker 1: show where at the time when the task force is
Speaker 1: able to get in, it's a it's a joint joint
Speaker 1: task force. So you've got poor tech, you've got other
Speaker 1: elements in there that this is a house where the
Speaker 1: bodies have just been dismembered. And essentially what it is
Speaker 1: is at the point in the investigation they weren't entirely sure,
Speaker 1: but they think it looked like was that some people,
Speaker 1: some members of the cartel had tried to go off
Speaker 1: on their own and start selling, uh, start to setting
Speaker 1: up their own human traffic at operation, start bringing their
Speaker 1: own people across the border. We're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: girls in their in their thirties that are complicit in
Speaker 1: this and that are telling other girls down southern Southern America,
Speaker 1: South America and Central America to come in and come
Speaker 1: across the border. And then when they come in they realize,
Speaker 1: you know, they're bringing the drugs with them, they're being um,
Speaker 1: they're being these mules for it. But they didn't do
Speaker 1: it with the behest with the cartel. The cartel finds
Speaker 1: out about it and has every single member of this
Speaker 1: family dismembered and essentially displayed in their own home, so
Speaker 1: that when everyone hears about this. And keep in mind,
Speaker 1: they're not doing this to be surreptitious. They're not trying
Speaker 1: to be covert about this. They want media to find
Speaker 1: out about this, They want the government to know about this.
Speaker 1: They want everyone to see what happens if you cross
Speaker 1: the cartel, and we showed this, we showed this in
Speaker 1: the doctment. Well, and you know you mentioned fence and
Speaker 1: all the number one killer for adults eighteen to forty five,
Speaker 1: I think something like roughly three hundred Americans die every
Speaker 1: day from fentanyl overdoses. And I've heard the comparison of Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, an average plane carries something like a d
Speaker 1: and thirty eight people, And if we had a plane
Speaker 1: of that many people crashing every single day, people would
Speaker 1: be in an uproar. Why is there not more outrage
Speaker 1: on this? Well, so I think it's because, you know,
Speaker 1: a huge amount of these people are in two places
Speaker 1: that our media and our politics just completely overlook, and
Speaker 1: that's the Midwest and that's inner cities. And so when
Speaker 1: you're in the Midwest, when you're a flyer of the country,
Speaker 1: this idea that we de industrialized this area, we decided
Speaker 1: to outsource all these jobs and leave them in behind,
Speaker 1: leave them behind, and people like Kevin Williamson at National
Speaker 1: Review saying that all these people should just move and
Speaker 1: if they're not smart enough to move, then they deserve
Speaker 1: to die. He actually said that, which I would say
Speaker 1: is the opposite of what Jade Events would say, because
Speaker 1: of course he has a whole movie out about this.
Speaker 1: We're he's talking about these people actually deserve dignity and
Speaker 1: respect because they are American citizens. But you could say
Speaker 1: the same thing about what's going on in our inner
Speaker 1: cities because the fedinyl that's hitting there, whether you whether
Speaker 1: the East Baltimore, whether the North Philly, wherever it is,
Speaker 1: those are still American citizens. And you've got families of
Speaker 1: kids that are trying to go to school, that are
Speaker 1: trying to just live their lives, and they're surrounded by
Speaker 1: this every single day. And you go down to Kensington
Speaker 1: Avenue in Philadelphia, where I'm from the Philadelphia area. My
Speaker 1: brothers to live right down the street from Kensington Avenue,
Speaker 1: and you can't go there anymore because it's essentially controlled
Speaker 1: by fentinal zombies that walk around like an open air
Speaker 1: drug market, and we're seeing this inside our cities. At
Speaker 1: the same time, our government and our media will sit
Speaker 1: there and tell us that we need to be focused
Speaker 1: on global warming, we need to be focused on the
Speaker 1: border disputes in far off Eurasia, we need to be
Speaker 1: focused on everything else under the sun, or these ephemeral,
Speaker 1: you know type ideals like like you know, equity, Well,
Speaker 1: what's the equity for people that are dying every single
Speaker 1: day on the street and we walk right by and
Speaker 1: act like nothing's happening. I think there's been this sort
Speaker 1: of tacit agreement for from our discourse to just overlook
Speaker 1: pretty much anything that happens if it's in the heartlander
Speaker 1: of its inner cities. It's a really really good point,
Speaker 1: you know, and we you know, we hear a lot
Speaker 1: about Mexican cartels, which we've discussed already in the role
Speaker 1: of you know, obviously getting fence across the border as
Speaker 1: well as human smuggling and all the other atrocities that
Speaker 1: they're committing. But China is the primary source of fence
Speaker 1: and also so talk about China's role in fueling this
Speaker 1: crisis and what people need to know about that. So China,
Speaker 1: what people need to understand is that in their view,
Speaker 1: from the view of the CCP, they're serving us are
Speaker 1: just desserts. Now you're saying, what do you mean, what
Speaker 1: did the US ever fuel drugs? And China know? But China,
Speaker 1: the Ching dynasty was taken down through the Opium Wars
Speaker 1: by the British Empire, and this was through the flooding
Speaker 1: of opium and the opium dens into China. Now for
Speaker 1: the Chinese, they don't look at US and the UK
Speaker 1: and Europe as you know, they don't see very many
Speaker 1: meaningful distinctions in a large sense. They just see us
Speaker 1: all a sort of the bulk West. So the Westerners
Speaker 1: did that to them. So from their perspective, what they're
Speaker 1: doing is simply a continuation of what we did to
Speaker 1: them in the eighteen hundreds. You could call it the
Speaker 1: Third Opium War. So from their perspective, they've launched the
Speaker 1: third Opium War of them versus us there in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat now flooding our towns, flooding our cities with
Speaker 1: this scourge. They know how terrible it is, They know
Speaker 1: every single bit how deadly it is. Why, because it's
Speaker 1: designed that way. It's designed and there's there's even synthetics
Speaker 1: of this, they're super fentanyl that's hitting. You're seeing uh
Speaker 1: situations where special forces and even some police units police
Speaker 1: departments across the country are now deploying with nar camp
Speaker 1: because they're terrified um hearing stories of people who get
Speaker 1: little bits of fentanyl blown in their face or sprayed
Speaker 1: on them that they could have an immediate reaction um
Speaker 1: including paralysis up to death. And so the Chinese, the
Speaker 1: CCP completely understands what they've done. They're working hand in
Speaker 1: glove with the cartels in order to do this. Why
Speaker 1: because they want us weaker, because they want us to
Speaker 1: be reduced, they want us to be softer. This is
Speaker 1: the exact same thing that the British Empire did to
Speaker 1: the Ching dynasty in the eighteen hundreds, and now they
Speaker 1: flipped the script and they're doing it to us in
Speaker 1: in China. And I lived in China for two years,
Speaker 1: I lived in Shanghai. That they teach that from the
Speaker 1: eighteen about eighteen fifty or so, the first Opium War
Speaker 1: untill nineteen was called the Century of Humiliation. And this
Speaker 1: is the time where where Europe forced China to be
Speaker 1: opened up to their their ports to force the opium
Speaker 1: in and then, of course what happens in October one,
Speaker 1: that's the founding of the People's Republic of China. What
Speaker 1: do we see going on in China now? Well, She
Speaker 1: jun Ping is about to essentially be coornated at the
Speaker 1: at the twentie National Party Conference for the c c
Speaker 1: P as the next paramount leader for life of the
Speaker 1: c C There's only ever been one other one of those,
Speaker 1: and his name was Mao Zedong. That shows you the
Speaker 1: power that she Jinping has right now, shows the you
Speaker 1: the ability he has. There's been some factions that have
Speaker 1: tried to take him down. What's he done. He's taken
Speaker 1: all of them out. And so what he's trying to
Speaker 1: do is create a new century of humiliation where it's
Speaker 1: the West being humiliated, not them. Could commercial break more
Speaker 1: on the docuseries Border Battle Check. I assume I probably
Speaker 1: should know this, But China is not suffering from the
Speaker 1: same fenanel issue as Americans are, right, Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Or are they? Oh? No, no, no, no no, no no no,
Speaker 1: no drug drug used. Um so there there's there's two
Speaker 1: things that are strictly forbidden in China. One is drug
Speaker 1: use and the other one is pornography. So the CCP
Speaker 1: for for all that they will allow, for all that
Speaker 1: they that you can do in China, if you're caught
Speaker 1: with drugs, if you're caught with pornography, the pornography that
Speaker 1: those lock you off will just does confiscate everything. But
Speaker 1: if you're caught with drugs and you're a drug dealer,
Speaker 1: just straight up death penalty. Um, there's no you know,
Speaker 1: there's barely any trial. There's a perfunctory legal hearing and
Speaker 1: then you're given a very fast death penalty. In fact,
Speaker 1: China is the leader in death penalty across the entire world. Um,
Speaker 1: it got to the point and of course the numbers
Speaker 1: in China are just staggering, beyond anything that we can
Speaker 1: even almost comprehend or wrap our minds around in the West.
Speaker 1: And because they were executing so many people in China,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago they enacted these new a
Speaker 1: new method of this that they called a mobile death penalty.
Speaker 1: Essentially a van that drives around from prison to prison.
Speaker 1: So rather than have you know, all these lethal injection sites,
Speaker 1: they would just drive the van to wherever they need
Speaker 1: to execute somebody and a huge number of these world
Speaker 1: drug dealers. You know, we we see that, you know,
Speaker 1: New York City headlines struggling to cope with five thousand
Speaker 1: five illegal immigrant kids. I know in the docuseries you
Speaker 1: cover border states, Arizona in Texas. How are these border
Speaker 1: towns copaying when you know they are at the front
Speaker 1: lines of this illegal immigration invasion. So I'll give you
Speaker 1: a great example of this, and I won't even mention
Speaker 1: border towns. The border towns are being completely inundated. But
Speaker 1: a lot of the times, really when it comes to
Speaker 1: some of these small towns, I'm just gonna say it,
Speaker 1: and it comes up in the docuseries that you've got mayors,
Speaker 1: you've got local city councils, politicians, they're completely paid off
Speaker 1: by the cartels. Uh, they're effectively cartel towns. They know
Speaker 1: that drugs are coming through, and the way they look
Speaker 1: at it as hey, let's just let this come through,
Speaker 1: Let's let this happen on our watch, and we're not
Speaker 1: going to do anything about it. Um. I hate to
Speaker 1: bring it up, but actually, one of the towns, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is a cartel town, but
Speaker 1: it was a town that and still is a town
Speaker 1: that is a on a major trafficking route for human
Speaker 1: smuggling and Fentanel is Uvalde, Texas. So when the vality
Speaker 1: shooting happened in Texas, when the call first went out
Speaker 1: to police and law enforcement of the school shutdown everybody
Speaker 1: in the town. Actually, this came out in later on
Speaker 1: in the in the investigation that the Texas um Department
Speaker 1: Public Safety did. It came out in the investigation that
Speaker 1: they thought, oh, that's just another illegal immigrant chase. We're
Speaker 1: not going to worry about it because this thing. They
Speaker 1: had had something like two dozen lockdowns already just in
Speaker 1: this year alone at the Vivaldi School because of human
Speaker 1: trafficking and police chases across the border. That's how bad
Speaker 1: things are in these cartel towns. Then when you look
Speaker 1: at some of these other situations like UM, like Fort Wachuca.
Speaker 1: So when I was in military, went to Fort Wachuca
Speaker 1: a couple of times for training before my deployment to
Speaker 1: one Tonamo before another deployment East Asia for human intelligence training.
Speaker 1: It's an army base. But even though as an eighty guy,
Speaker 1: they said, hey, army has got a good school on
Speaker 1: this yoking right there. Fort Wachuca is right next to
Speaker 1: the town is Hereavista. It's it's located on the border itself,
Speaker 1: so it's you know, the sort of defense is contiguous
Speaker 1: with the border. In southern Arizona. The four Watchuca base
Speaker 1: commander just reached a couple of weeks ago, had to
Speaker 1: send a message back to his higher headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Pentagon saying, our base is being overrun with illegal migrants.
Speaker 1: We don't have the MPs to be able to deal
Speaker 1: with this because there's simply too many of them crossing
Speaker 1: again onto a United States military base and cutting across
Speaker 1: and escaping back into the country. So we've got military
Speaker 1: bases on the border that are being overrun with illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants right now, and even the US military, with all
Speaker 1: the abilities and authorizations they have on military property, can't
Speaker 1: cope with it. Well. Also, if you wanted to destroy
Speaker 1: a nation, which we know that the left does, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you have millions of illegal immigrants who don't share our values,
Speaker 1: don't share our culture, or don't care about our country
Speaker 1: in Venezuela sending prisoners. I mean, when that destroy a nation, well,
Speaker 1: it certainly would. And when you also look at the
Speaker 1: open border policies of the left. One of the main
Speaker 1: issues that I think a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 1: is is that when you're talking about importing this many
Speaker 1: people and again five million people in just the last
Speaker 1: two years alone that we can estimate that have come
Speaker 1: across our border illegally, what this does is create it
Speaker 1: creates an artificial competition for low wage jobs, working class jobs.
Speaker 1: So when you're constantly importing people to create this artificial
Speaker 1: competition for low wage jobs, right, you know, go back
Speaker 1: to economics one oh one, Tom Seul or whatever you
Speaker 1: wanna do. Um, Obviously, this is going to keep those
Speaker 1: wages down. So you've got artificial controls on and this
Speaker 1: damper on wages staying low. So if wages stay low
Speaker 1: forever for the working class there obviously, and you guess
Speaker 1: what if you've got a five percent raise this year
Speaker 1: and inflation is seven you didn't get a raise, right,
Speaker 1: I hope everyone can figure out how that works. Um,
Speaker 1: What this does is it creates stunted well formation. It
Speaker 1: creates stunted family formation, because if your wages aren't going up,
Speaker 1: then how you're going to be able to order family?
Speaker 1: How are you going to be able to afford a house.
Speaker 1: How are you gonna be able to afford a car?
Speaker 1: And then you have crazy people like AOC saying things like, well,
Speaker 1: we need more of these immigrants, and we need to
Speaker 1: give amnesty and you know, dacka amnesty and everything else,
Speaker 1: because our birth rates are going down. This is what
Speaker 1: AOC said recently, and you have to turn it out
Speaker 1: and say, no, it's actually the opposite. It's because of
Speaker 1: this issue that our birth rates are going down because
Speaker 1: so many people being flooded with opium, so many of
Speaker 1: that you know, vent and olds, the new opium. So
Speaker 1: many people are being flooded with these low wage job depressants,
Speaker 1: and at the lower end of the working class that
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to create well formation, family formation,
Speaker 1: You can't get out of the middle class, you can't
Speaker 1: get up into middle class from the working class, and
Speaker 1: you've created a perpetual cycle that, to your point, is
Speaker 1: going to essentially gut this country from the middle inside out.
Speaker 1: And you know you follow this stuff obviously extremely closely,
Speaker 1: as evidence by just this conversation, and you know I
Speaker 1: follow you on Twitter as well. Did you learn anything
Speaker 1: from this doc like a docuseries that you didn't previously know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure about what what kind of stood out to
Speaker 1: you or or alarmed you or shocked you. So I
Speaker 1: think the most alarming thing to me in in going
Speaker 1: through the docuseries is that people don't understand the level
Speaker 1: of brutality that goes on here. Um, people don't understand
Speaker 1: the human stories. And we as a country, we just
Speaker 1: had this big argument about Columbus Day. We have arguments
Speaker 1: about slavery and things that happened two hundred years ago
Speaker 1: are things that happened five hundred years ago. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that those aren't worthy conversations. But when you
Speaker 1: look at what's going on in our border, there is
Speaker 1: slavery that's alive and well right here inside the United
Speaker 1: States today. There are rape trees that are found every
Speaker 1: single day along the southern border. What that means is
Speaker 1: the illegals have come through and then when law by
Speaker 1: the time any law enforcement gets their border patrol gets there,
Speaker 1: they find on the tree itself underwear from women's underwear
Speaker 1: and sometimes even children's underwear hanging up on these trees.
Speaker 1: And it's meant as a sign, It's meant as a message,
Speaker 1: it's meant as bragging. This is what we could get
Speaker 1: away with right under your noses. And they're sold into
Speaker 1: sexual slavery, they's sold into labor slavery. This is going
Speaker 1: on in our country today. And so to all the
Speaker 1: people out there that are so very upset about these
Speaker 1: things that happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago, okay,
Speaker 1: but can we work on the thing that's going on
Speaker 1: right inside our own borders today? That's atrocious and sad,
Speaker 1: and yes we should be focusing on it. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you guys did in this Docky series. I know you've
Speaker 1: got a tight timeline. I want to have you back
Speaker 1: to I wanted to ask you about Ukraine, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to be respectful of your schedule. So I'd love
Speaker 1: to have you back just to talk about Ukraine, um
Speaker 1: and get your thoughts on that. Where can people go
Speaker 1: and watch this? Where should they go and watch the
Speaker 1: document docuseries Border Battle? Right if you go to t
Speaker 1: pos Hey dot com you'll find all the links. It's
Speaker 1: also up on Salem now. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: six part series. Apart one came out last week. Part
Speaker 1: two is dropping very soon. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: high level this is like, it's kind of like what
Speaker 1: Vice News used to be. If you remember that back
Speaker 1: when it was still on HBO and they were doing
Speaker 1: the high level stuff and they would have bed in
Speaker 1: Iraq and some of these other places. I mean, nobody's
Speaker 1: doing that anymore. And now vices rather tell you about
Speaker 1: the drag queen addicts or you know some crazy uh
Speaker 1: you know, some crazy stuff here in the United States. Well,
Speaker 1: we're taking that same level of quality, but we're applying
Speaker 1: it to stuff that's actually going on and actually matters
Speaker 1: on Ukraine. Just very quickly to you know, to answer
Speaker 1: your question, um, you know, I would basically say that
Speaker 1: I think there's two camps on this issue. One of
Speaker 1: them is escalation and one of them is de escalation.
Speaker 1: And they try to paint this sort of Mannichean model
Speaker 1: of things where the Hegelian dialectics or you're either pro Ukraine,
Speaker 1: your pro Russia, pro Ukraine pro Russia, like it's some
Speaker 1: kind of you know, like something out of the Avengers
Speaker 1: or Star Wars, you know, for the rebels for the Empire,
Speaker 1: and whereas I come in and say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys are escalating these things with a
Speaker 1: nuclear power. We should be very careful about that, and
Speaker 1: we should remember the history of the nineteen eighties and
Speaker 1: understand why it's a very very bad idea when people
Speaker 1: are talking about the nukes starting to fly anywhere in
Speaker 1: the world, because of what the ramifications and the secondary
Speaker 1: and tertiary problems did that come with. So I commend
Speaker 1: Elon Musk for his recent tweet for at least starting
Speaker 1: the conversation about saying, Look, we may disagree on who
Speaker 1: should control what territory and what I got it right,
Speaker 1: I got it, but we should hopefully all agree that
Speaker 1: World War three is not worth it well, and they
Speaker 1: want us to believe that Putin sabotaged his own pipelines
Speaker 1: when he already has control of the supply and he
Speaker 1: can turn them off and on as he pleases what
Speaker 1: she has already done. So it's it doesn't really this
Speaker 1: is one thing that you're you want to do when
Speaker 1: you're in a war in times of warfare. It it's unsue, right,
Speaker 1: destroy your own pipeline in times of war. That's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's one of the first things they
Speaker 1: teach in the Russian military academy, destroy your own pipelines
Speaker 1: destroy your own bridges, and I think that you know,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, if you're following this logic, the logical next
Speaker 1: step is for Putin to threaten to nuke himself in
Speaker 1: the Kremlin from orbit while he himself is in it. Well, like,
Speaker 1: why would you give up your leverage when Europe is
Speaker 1: already on its knees in terms of energy supply and
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's like your car. Why why would you?
Speaker 1: Why would you? It? Just it like flies in the
Speaker 1: face of any common sense whatsoever. Yet the media is
Speaker 1: all of his leverage to your over Europe is now
Speaker 1: lying at the bottom of the baltic Um. Though I
Speaker 1: did hear somebody was mentioning earlier today that apparently he
Speaker 1: made some statement about how they could consider repairs on
Speaker 1: North Stream, so possibly opening that door up a little
Speaker 1: bit ahead of the T twenty meeting that's coming up
Speaker 1: later this month in in Southeast Asia. Quick commercial break
Speaker 1: back with Jacksobic. We just live in such a post
Speaker 1: truth world where we're being told that, you know, Russia's
Speaker 1: destroying its own pipelines, its own leverage, that breadlines are good,
Speaker 1: that somehow millions of illegal aliens in the United States
Speaker 1: makes us better, Like it's just you know, it's just well,
Speaker 1: you saw you saw politicos the political Europe today they
Speaker 1: were going through there. They did a list of the
Speaker 1: top green activists in all of Europe for two and
Speaker 1: number one on the list was Vladimir Putin. I'm not
Speaker 1: even Joe game. This is not Babylondie. You can text
Speaker 1: seth and and check the sethdil and obviously and uh
Speaker 1: and they actually named Vladimir Putin the number one. So sorry, Greta,
Speaker 1: I mean losing to Putin, I mean, gosh, that must be,
Speaker 1: you know, such a blow to the to the psyche,
Speaker 1: you know, how dare he right? But yeah, Putin is
Speaker 1: labeled number one because now they're turning around and saying, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe fossil fuels we should maybe we should look
Speaker 1: at that little thing all right called nuclear energy, the
Speaker 1: thing that, by the way, the left has been standing
Speaker 1: in the way of for a general and then two
Speaker 1: were relying on Putent to negotiate with Iranians regarding the
Speaker 1: nuclear deal and then simultaneously regarding Ukraine. We're giving them
Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars to a country where both
Speaker 1: the Bidens have profited from and have engaged in, you know, corruption,
Speaker 1: and so it's like none of it makes sense. Well
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. The only part of it that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I will say this that if I were
Speaker 1: a corrupt oligarch in one of these other countries, I'd
Speaker 1: be paying off American politicians too, if I were a cartel,
Speaker 1: if I were if I were the CCP, if I
Speaker 1: were one of these oligarchs in Eastern Europe, sure, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you have if they're to be bought? I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at some of these numbers, the Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1: That's not a lot of money in the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things. In order to receive contracts that get you
Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars, why not? You know, we're
Speaker 1: the ones. We're the ones who allowed our country to
Speaker 1: become so un serious, to become so corrupt, and allowed
Speaker 1: them to do it in the first place. So at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, even though there's
Speaker 1: bad actors out there, guess what, there's always going to
Speaker 1: be bad actors out there. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the responsibility lies with us to fix our country, to
Speaker 1: start acting like a serious country and start getting people
Speaker 1: in office that are actually compelled to represent the people
Speaker 1: that they were allocted to. How do we get to
Speaker 1: the truth on Ukraine though, because we we've got a
Speaker 1: media who they've lied to us repeatedly regarding Russia with
Speaker 1: Trump collusion, all that bs Russia, bounties lies, all lies. Uh,
Speaker 1: And you know we've also got the fog of war
Speaker 1: or whatever is going How do we get to the truth?
Speaker 1: I was in Ukraine. We traveled by train, um doing
Speaker 1: doing recordings and interviews. Um, you know, you obviously can't fly,
Speaker 1: but we traveled by train all the way down to Odessa.
Speaker 1: We got into a car. We drove up to Nikolaia
Speaker 1: just a couple of months ago. At this point, and
Speaker 1: when you're there on the ground, you have to realize
Speaker 1: that there are real people that are caught in the
Speaker 1: middle of this thing. And I think it's really just
Speaker 1: understanding that you have to look at things regardless of
Speaker 1: what sentate you is to say, do you want more
Speaker 1: death and destruct or do you want less? And what
Speaker 1: is the fastest and best way and then, by the way,
Speaker 1: the most reasonable way to get there? These stories that
Speaker 1: like um, you know Zelinsky saying something like we're gonna
Speaker 1: blow up Russia like Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star.
Speaker 1: While he's talking, by the way, to Mark Hamill, who
Speaker 1: apparently has been appointed the ambassador of the the Ukrainian
Speaker 1: drone programmer, I wish I were making that up. I'm
Speaker 1: actually dead serious that we need to start looking at
Speaker 1: things seriously. We just start taking things seriously. We have
Speaker 1: to understand McCrone, Emmanuel McCrone, who's you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm no fan of he had he had a point
Speaker 1: about this and and but you know, I'm ethnically Polish,
Speaker 1: so you know, no fan of the Russians. But he
Speaker 1: had a point where he said, look, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Russia was there yesterday, they're there today,
Speaker 1: and they will be there tomorrow. So at some point
Speaker 1: you have to figure out a way to deal with
Speaker 1: someone rather than keep trying to poke them and think
Speaker 1: that they're going to change. I mean, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know that innocent p people are dying. It's just
Speaker 1: the rest of it is where there's a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: how does this end? Well, there's I mean, there's one
Speaker 1: of two ways. It either ends, um, you know, it
Speaker 1: either ends with nuclear war flying in the face of
Speaker 1: everyone on the planet. So we're all dead. Um, go
Speaker 1: watch you know, there was that great show you know,
Speaker 1: One Day After the Day After on ABC back in
Speaker 1: the eighties, And of course they won't share that anymore
Speaker 1: about what would actually happen in nuclear war. Um, it
Speaker 1: could end with the peace deal, a ceasefire. I would
Speaker 1: hope that that's how it ends. I would I pray
Speaker 1: that that's how it ends. That the ceasefire comes as
Speaker 1: fast as possible, because there's good people dying, there really are.
Speaker 1: Or you could see something where essentially Russia pushes forward
Speaker 1: because we get tapped out of our economic support, the
Speaker 1: money printer breaks, because at some point, the money printer
Speaker 1: is always going to break, right, this this modern monetary
Speaker 1: theory and KEENSI and economics, it only goes so far.
Speaker 1: And even as as Keens famously equipped at one point
Speaker 1: they said, well it happens in the long run, he said, well,
Speaker 1: in the long run, you die anyway, so it doesn't matter. Um,
Speaker 1: But as a country, we would essentially collapse. Our government
Speaker 1: would only be able to control things internally, and that's
Speaker 1: why you see the crackdown on the opposition and disidence.
Speaker 1: The way you do now and then essentially they would
Speaker 1: leave the crane in a smoking ruin because they do
Speaker 1: have the military capability to do that. I think everybody
Speaker 1: needs to sober up very quickly and understand that they
Speaker 1: always maintain that option on the table. Makes sense. Jack,
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing some clarity on that issue. And then
Speaker 1: also the docuseries Border Battle. I've watched the trailers. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to to watching it. It looks really well done,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate your time. Always been a fan of
Speaker 1: your work. UM. I would love to have you back
Speaker 1: on the show. God blessy, so let's do it soon.
Speaker 1: That is Jack and Sobic very interesting thing. I learned
Speaker 1: a lot from him regarding the legal immigration front from
Speaker 1: the docuseries that he did UM as well as on
Speaker 1: Ukraine as well as a smart guy follow on Twitter.
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