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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is better than The Coaches Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room felled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Christopher Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosal. What's up boys kind of excitement in the room.

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Speaker 1: We did some quasi television spots with Dave Damaschek downstairs

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Speaker 1: where we probably ripped on seven or eight on air

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Speaker 1: personalities that we work with here. I wouldn't say we

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Speaker 1: ripped on well, it was, it was not pretty. And

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Speaker 1: we've just taken the Coaches Show again. I think we've

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Speaker 1: had that leading before and we should probably It sounds

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Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta get some money and money in

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Speaker 1: the studio. He's gotta lay down some more intros. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, please send any ideas you have for

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Speaker 1: the start of the show. If you don't know Matt

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Speaker 1: money Smith of Money in Petro's Fame, if you live

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Speaker 1: out in Los Angeles, he's the one who records those interests,

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Speaker 1: which I love, so hashtag money intro, Send it to

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL and we'll collect You're on record is

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Speaker 1: saying that's your favorite part of our podcast. I just

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Speaker 1: like it. It's a nice, clean, fun start to the show.

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Speaker 1: We should um address something internally because I think the

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Speaker 1: best the best method, and I learned this from Greg

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Speaker 1: as a supervisor, UM to handle any type of issues

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Speaker 1: in houses, just to you know, confront them and move on,

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Speaker 1: especially on air. Uh, what happened on our last show

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Speaker 1: when I you know, I've been doing this thing where

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Speaker 1: I've been challenging t D uh to see if he's

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Speaker 1: listening while he's away on his vacation using code words UM,

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Speaker 1: and I challenged him to a code word most recently,

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Speaker 1: which was pert happily UM. T D immediately replied on

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Speaker 1: Twitter so showing that he listened to the show, and Uh,

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Speaker 1: I really gave it to him last show. And because

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Speaker 1: he did not the previous show, did not drop the

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Speaker 1: word the special phrase which I don't even remembered Begley Jr.

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Speaker 1: And then it turns out TD did. And how do

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Speaker 1: we know because he did it days earlier and West

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Speaker 1: replied to t D days earlier. I saw it, and

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Speaker 1: when I brought it up on the last show, West

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Speaker 1: never said anything. I wasn't paying attention to you. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea that that problem, and it hurts. The

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Speaker 1: initial problem is that you weren't paying attention. He did

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Speaker 1: not the route to the Yeah, t D did not

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Speaker 1: mention you, which seems silly that he wanted to have.

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Speaker 1: By the way, TD is meant to be where across

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Speaker 1: the seas somewhere, and he's been tweeting all day long

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Speaker 1: about the NBA Finals. I'm convinced he never went anywhere.

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Speaker 1: He's just taking a long June. But I saw a

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Speaker 1: picture of him in a tuxedo next to a brother.

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Speaker 1: It was just an excuse for him to post pictures

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Speaker 1: of him dressed up looking like a cute little kid

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Speaker 1: and night. He loves him. He's he's the king of

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Speaker 1: and you know, we don't want to talk too much

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Speaker 1: about TV when he's out of here to defend himself,

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Speaker 1: but he's the king of like posting the cute pictures

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Speaker 1: on Facebook, like hey, I'm just I'm just the soul

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Speaker 1: brother right here, and then he's like crooning to the camera.

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Speaker 1: That's his move when of CD Sames moves anyway West.

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Speaker 1: How often do you not listen to me on the show?

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Speaker 1: Probably as often as when you ask Mark a question

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Speaker 1: and he's off in space, like, I do that a lot.

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Speaker 1: And you know, are you repeat a point Mark said?

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Speaker 1: We all do it. I would say about as often

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Speaker 1: as you read the articles that you say you read, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I never read your articles, but I do

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Speaker 1: when I do read them, I do definitely read them.

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Speaker 1: That is honestly. I don't know what you just said that,

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Speaker 1: but that is pure honesty. When I say I read them,

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Speaker 1: I read them. I just hardly ever do. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: that's all honesty, and I should be applauded for that,

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Speaker 1: for not reading them. No, but when I say when

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Speaker 1: and it's always accurate. That does not check out morally,

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Speaker 1: Um Worlds are overrated. Very good show today, very good.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a show that it's a show that

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Speaker 1: I can get behind personally. Uh you know, Mini camps

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Speaker 1: are underway all across this great nation. Uh So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go through each pick a team that we're watching closely,

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Speaker 1: mini camps. We'll also get on the phone with Jeff Darlington,

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Speaker 1: gonna get him on the phone for a few minutes

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Speaker 1: talk to him and speaking of the phone, big phone day,

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Speaker 1: So big test behind the glass for Sully. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: are going to get our good friend and colleague Connor

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Speaker 1: of the things I'm most proud of creatively since joining

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Speaker 1: NFL Media five years ago. Uh. Greg. I looked to

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Speaker 1: for some approval from Greg on this and he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't all about it, but I felt we had

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Speaker 1: a forage forward and see what happens. I wasn't against it.

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Speaker 1: It just didn't share your same enthusiasm. That's fair. Your

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Speaker 1: enthusiasm was somewhere below where it stands for when West's Toaster, No,

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Speaker 1: that's not true when West is Toasting segment. Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the other segment that I was vindicated for one of

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Speaker 1: our most popular segments, When West's Toaster by what metric?

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Speaker 1: Is it popular by our fans, our engagement. It's a

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Speaker 1: shamp ww is popular too, doesn't mean it's a real sport. Wow,

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Speaker 1: play West Toaster isn't a sport. It's a game of

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Speaker 1: skill and valid Yes, thank you, all right, But before

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Speaker 1: Connor on the line and talk many camps, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk a little news. But before we do that, check

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Speaker 1: in behind the glass with Sully. What's up buddy? Celebrating

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Speaker 1: good time, and we will take away that sound on

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Speaker 1: board if you ever Friday. Well, that's good, but we

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Speaker 1: have an issue with that song because TV played it

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Speaker 1: too often. I think he knows that's Mark. Is it

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Speaker 1: okay that our backup producers trolling the podcast host right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, there's gonna be there's gonna

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Speaker 1: I can already see. I don't I don't want to

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Speaker 1: think that you know it's dan Is learning or you

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Speaker 1: are learning that dan Is is not the maybe the

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Speaker 1: easiest UH hosts to ever work with in in broadcast media.

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Speaker 1: And am I wrong? I don't know? Very still but

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of hope between the two of you.

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Speaker 1: I do, thanks Mark, good a lot of good content

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Speaker 1: there from you. Well, I was in the middle of

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Speaker 1: looking at something. Alright, good Mark, driving a wedge between

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Speaker 1: we'll start in Philadelphia. I feel like we're always starting

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Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian rappaport Um, this was Evan Mathis,

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Speaker 1: years now and west. The decision was made by Chip

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Speaker 1: the right move? Well, I don't know if it's the

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Speaker 1: me out, Maybe he's not actually the best guard in football.

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Speaker 1: If he's been available for two years and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: quite possibly, he's only limited to zone blocking teams, and

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Speaker 1: to hand him ten million dollars a year. That's kind

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Speaker 1: There are places where he could go and I could

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Speaker 1: Only Travis Kelsey is remaining from those players, and we

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Speaker 1: And one thing, you gotta give the genius Dan a

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Speaker 1: little credit. You know, he's talked about the culture of Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: I think this is another move that's like that, because

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Speaker 1: there's no reason for them to cut a mother than

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Speaker 1: they basically thought he was a jerk, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but it's a genius move if you if you fix

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid in Kansas City and Ship Kelly have had

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Speaker 1: their own image. Which roster would you take? I don't

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Speaker 1: take the Eagles, absolutely, Yeah, I would take the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: all coaches were? All strong coaches. They come in and

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Speaker 1: he's and he in what Jim Brown is plugged in on.

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Speaker 1: He works for the Browns he said, this is another

427
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Speaker 1: quote that it's been too long forget the nineteen sixty

428
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Speaker 1: four Browns. This city needs another championship. And I think

429
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: that showed a little bit of maturity on Lebron's point

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Speaker 1: to basically bow down. That's a good point, though, Mark,

431
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Speaker 1: thank you, Dan, you made a good point. Some of

432
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Speaker 1: the things you said about the Vikings running to the

433
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Speaker 1: running backs coach. I was like, I don't know about that.

434
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Speaker 1: So these guys, that's why Jim Brown was in our

435
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Speaker 1: studio a couple of years ago and talking to schmos

436
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Speaker 1: like us. They you know, he likes to be in

437
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Speaker 1: the spotlight, and anybody does. It's why Joe Namath still

438
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: talks to the media all time. These guys like to

439
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Speaker 1: stay in the picture. And when the biggest sports star

440
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Speaker 1: in America literally bows before you, pretty cool. Well, especially

441
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: because he used to be the biggest sports star in

442
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Speaker 1: America and maybe the greatest football player of all time.

443
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Speaker 1: Let's go step further. Is Jim Brown the greatest athlete

444
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Speaker 1: this country has ever seen? Well, I think most of

445
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Speaker 1: the country hasn't seen him. Well, let's say let's run

446
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Speaker 1: down with Jim Brown's done. Pro Football Hall of Fame

447
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Speaker 1: College Football Hall of Fame Lacrosse Hall of Fame. Lettered

448
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Speaker 1: at Syracuse in track, average fourteen points a game as

449
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Speaker 1: a sophomore at Syracuse. The next year they told him

450
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Speaker 1: we were only gonna play to African Americans on our team,

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Speaker 1: so we quit the team. As a senior, they go

452
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Speaker 1: on to the Elite eight, and a lot of people

453
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Speaker 1: think they would have won a national championship if Jim

454
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Speaker 1: Brown played hoops his senior haven't met many likable across

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Speaker 1: players in my life. I would agree with that. He's

456
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Speaker 1: viewed by a lot of people as the greatest lacrosse

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Speaker 1: player in history. I think he's If there was a

458
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Speaker 1: ranking most dominant NFL player ever, it's it's Jim Brown.

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Speaker 1: You mean, maybe you can argue other people with longevity

460
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Speaker 1: or whatever her, but he was the most sustained greatness

461
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Speaker 1: the league's ever seen. Alright, real quick, Mark Finals for

462
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Speaker 1: the series, I'm gonna say Warriors and seven Oh, you

463
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Speaker 1: can't make me do this because I am I'm going

464
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: Calves and sevens. I'm going Warriors. But Mark was so

465
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Speaker 1: fun to watch. Mark was the loudest guy. He was

466
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Speaker 1: getting stay in the place we were at the other night,

467
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Speaker 1: and most of it was directed at me for not

468
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Speaker 1: going along with his Calves love and a none of it,

469
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Speaker 1: not too much of it was actually cass based. Even

470
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Speaker 1: it was just like we need this Cleveland, Well they do,

471
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Speaker 1: and I don't you know what I'm You're not even

472
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Speaker 1: surprised at how into this you are, but you've explained

473
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Speaker 1: it and I and I get it. Greg said he's

474
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Speaker 1: checking in game six or so. Yeah, I'm gonna check

475
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Speaker 1: in at game six when the Calves are up three

476
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: too and they bring the title home in Cleveland for

477
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Speaker 1: games alright. Moving on, speaking of Lebron, James Rex Ryan

478
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Speaker 1: uh funny line said, Uh, listen, we know, we know

479
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Speaker 1: our situation at quarterback. We don't have Lebron at QB.

480
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Speaker 1: Good job, right, Not only do you tie in to

481
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Speaker 1: the current events in the sporting world, you actually for

482
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Speaker 1: once admit that it's a it's a damp show. Uh.

483
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Speaker 1: In the quarterbacks room in Orchard Park. He also said

484
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Speaker 1: that wasn't even the biggest insult he said. He said,

485
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Speaker 1: we don't have a number one right now, we don't

486
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Speaker 1: have a number two. After coming off of a terrible practice,

487
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Matt Castle is supposedly brutal and the other guys haven't

488
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: been much better. Well, this hurts both scientists because you've

489
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Speaker 1: got Greg who was a big Matt Castle guy, and

490
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: West has been singing the poses. I am not saying

491
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Speaker 1: you're echoing the praise. Only want him to win the job,

492
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Speaker 1: so I don't have to watch Matt Castle. Well that's

493
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Speaker 1: I got you. I want to give everyone right now

494
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to reflect. Hit pause. If you think the

495
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Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win like eleven games this year June eleventh,

496
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: you can walk that back. They don't have a quarterback.

497
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Speaker 1: How are they gonna win eleven games? No, no, no, Now,

498
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 1: they narrative in Buffalo is that E. J. Manuel never

499
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Speaker 1: got enough of a chance and there's still some untapped

500
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Speaker 1: but entual you're putting words in people. No one said

501
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Speaker 1: they're gonna win eleven games. Semple are acting like they're

502
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna win the Super I like them as a playoff team.

503
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just buy the I'm just gonna eat that hype.

504
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: Bills have ten wins, they have a talent to get

505
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Speaker 1: to ten wins, So I don't I don't think it's

506
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. I think the same old thing Patriots twelve

507
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: and four. I mean the Jets are gonna go oh

508
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: and six in the division, so then I might get

509
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: lower the lower the expectations. That's what I need. Whatever,

510
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: it's a couple of free wins, all right, that's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling, gentlemen. We have a man on the line,

512
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: just did it was dispatched to Indianapolis to take a

513
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Speaker 1: look at the Colts, get a closer look at the Colts,

514
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Speaker 1: and he came back thinking he's watching a real Super

515
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Speaker 1: Bow bawl contender. He is the great Jeff Darlington. Welcome

516
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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL podcast. Jeff, Hello, gentleman, And

517
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: so he's the time of year for for fresh super

518
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Speaker 1: Bowl hope, is it not? I think you're gonna say

519
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Speaker 1: it's the time of year to talk to us. It's

520
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Speaker 1: you know, it's been a it's been a while since

521
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Speaker 1: we had Darling. Only time the only time I find

522
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Speaker 1: myself on the shows and the dulgrums of the off

523
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: season when we'd love to have you. And if you're

524
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Speaker 1: in Culver City anytime soon, we'll get you in. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it sounds lovely and gentlemen, all right, now that we

526
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Speaker 1: got past that awkwardness. Let's talk about the cults and

527
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: and you know, yes, this is optimism season, of course,

528
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Speaker 1: but Jeff, there's reason for like legit optimism for the Colts,

529
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Speaker 1: who seemed to really have added on both sides of

530
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Speaker 1: the ball. They got blown out in the a C

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Speaker 1: title game last year. They hoisted at Lucas Oil Stadium

532
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Speaker 1: a f C finalist banner. Recently, they need to get

533
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Speaker 1: a better banner. They're gonna do it or not. You know,

534
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Speaker 1: it's funny. I actually saw the sign in the facility

535
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Speaker 1: that said the same thing, and I was like, it

536
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Speaker 1: didn't It didn't really register the way it did when

537
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Speaker 1: people started making fun of the banner in the stadium.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, I didn't see finalists. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've ever heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So so anyway, look,

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Speaker 1: I think that this team, uh it's it's suddenly, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: definitely contending, certainly for the Super Bowl. I don't think

542
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Speaker 1: there's an expectation that they need to uh get in

543
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl for their season to be a success.

544
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they're like the Denver Broncos in that sense,

545
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Speaker 1: or maybe the New England Patriots. UM, but certainly getting

546
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: to that a f C championship game is on their

547
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: their immediate list of goals. And I think this team

548
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: believes that that they can uh, they that they've upgraded,

549
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: that they have a lot of weapons on offense, and

550
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Speaker 1: and they continue to be as we saw this off

551
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Speaker 1: season when Andre Johnson and Frank Gore joined the team.

552
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Speaker 1: They continue their becoming that team that players want to

553
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Speaker 1: go to to pursue that championship. And I think that

554
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Speaker 1: that says a lot about the direction of the organization

555
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: and and sort of the internal vibe when these veterans

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Speaker 1: go to visit that facility. You started your piece on

557
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Speaker 1: the site with the story of you know, Andrew Luck

558
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Speaker 1: and Andre Johnson talking and in Johnson had some mensting

559
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: comments to you, basically that that Luck is leading the

560
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Speaker 1: way in this conversation and that he's so good because

561
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Speaker 1: he's he's telling Andre Johnson exactly what he wants, right.

562
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Speaker 1: And I mean, look, Andrew Johnson is not like a

563
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: weak minded soul. It's not like you just be pushed around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pretty tough dude. And and this

565
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Speaker 1: is not a level of arrogance by any means. Um

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Speaker 1: from Andrew Luck. But but in that conversation, yeah, the

567
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Speaker 1: context was very much Luck saying to Andre Johnson like,

568
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Speaker 1: this is what we expect, this is where we want

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Speaker 1: to go, what we want to do, uh, putting it

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Speaker 1: all on the line. And and the gist that I

571
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: took from from my time in that locker room is that,

572
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Speaker 1: you know, I think that we we viewed Andrew Luck

573
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Speaker 1: for these first three years as being that young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: not the rookie necessarily. After that first year, you know,

575
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Speaker 1: as I said in the story, no longer the budding

576
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: teenager anymore. Either feels like going into this season like

577
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Speaker 1: a bona fide veteran. And I think that that is

578
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: that means a lot, you know. I think to an extent,

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Speaker 1: we're seeing a little bit in Miami with Tannehill. Uh

580
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: and obviously given what Russell Wilson's already done in Seattle,

581
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: but but you lost leading the way feeling all of

582
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Speaker 1: a sudden like uh, more in the tier of the

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers type than maybe in in the tier of

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Speaker 1: of the guy in his first few years as an

585
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. I know everyone wants to talk about Andre Johnson,

586
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Speaker 1: but I think the cults surprised people that went out

587
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Speaker 1: and got Philip Dorset in the first round. And you've

588
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Speaker 1: had a chance to watch this team. What we've been

589
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: hearing amazing things about this guy. What are you seeing

590
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Speaker 1: the same? I mean, he looks like the type of

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00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: guy who could and didn't. We kind of knew this

592
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Speaker 1: going into the draft that this class was going to

593
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Speaker 1: be extremely solid, and I think we're already sort of

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Speaker 1: sort of seeing that in O T A s around

595
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the league, at least those that I've been to. Uh,

596
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: and certainly he qualifies uh in in that group. And um,

597
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: they've got I mean, when you consider that they've got

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Speaker 1: t Y Hilton, Andre Johnson, uh until the door set

599
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: really leading the way. I mean, that's that's a pretty

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: stacked lineup for Andrew Luck to playlist. And you know,

601
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: he's also going into a year when he's more comfortable

602
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: and pet Hamilton's system. Uh, the third year in that system.

603
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Speaker 1: So I think that you know, one thing Luck said

604
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: he wanted to get down was that touchdown to quarter

605
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: interception ratio through forty touchdowns last year but eighteen interceptions.

606
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: He's awful, awesome forty touchdowns and the guys talking about

607
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Speaker 1: improving that ratio. But but it is true, he's got

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Speaker 1: to limit those interceptions and with the weapons that he has,

609
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: he should be able to do that. All right, So Jeff,

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Speaker 1: let's let's be honest. This is the trust tree in here.

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00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, no one else is gonna hear this. It

612
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: seems like there's a double rainbow over Indianapolis right now.

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00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: When everybody looks great and all that stuff. Please tell

614
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Speaker 1: me you were at the camp. Tell me one thing

615
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: you saw your like, hmm, that could be a problem,

616
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: whether it be a player, it's just something. Is there

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00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: any reason to be pessimistic about this team? I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: like I said, this is a season of hope and

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Speaker 1: this is a team that got to the a f

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Speaker 1: C Championship game. Um, but you know that defense at

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Speaker 1: times played very impressively at the beginning of the season,

622
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and then towards the end of the season fell off

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Speaker 1: a little bit. They were a little inconsistent throughout the year,

624
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: and they don't have a ton of star power. So

625
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that group is going to have to really man up

626
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: this year from beginning to end, uh and be ready

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00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: to go when the postseason rolls around. I mean, there's

628
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: no question the story I wrote focused almost actually entirely

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Speaker 1: on the offense, and the offense made some nice improvements.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to see the Frank. I think that Frank

631
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Gore and Johnson books have a little bit of gas

632
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: left in the tank. But but by all means, you know,

633
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: as Johnson said himself, they look good on paper right now,

634
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: but they've got to put it together. So I'm not

635
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: trying to just wear rose colored glasses here, but but

636
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: I certainly think that they did enough this offseason to

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Speaker 1: get back to the a f C Championship game. The

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Speaker 1: question is can they contend with the team that that

639
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Speaker 1: is opposed? Then whoever that might be? How much gas

640
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: you got left in the tank when your first child

641
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: just arriving? And then how much grief are you getting

642
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: for flying all around the country checking out many camps.

643
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I've never loved Oka so much. But I'm sitting there

644
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: watching a special teams today. You're at the Bucks facility

645
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: and stagnant, and I thought I could be at home

646
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Speaker 1: changing diapers, so uh so, really just living living the

647
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: dream right now. Is it ever a time, Jeff, where

648
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Speaker 1: you're sitting, you know, on a plane and uh, you know,

649
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: you think yourself. Oh I was twenty seven once and

650
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: there were no kids and there was no wife, and

651
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: I was the king? Are you are you? Uh? Is

652
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: this is? This? Is this a therapy session? I'm projecting

653
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. Put me on the couch. Believe me.

654
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I think about those days all the time. And I

655
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Speaker 1: say that. I say that with supreme confidence that my

656
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Speaker 1: wife will never We're all due respect. Listen to your podcast.

657
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Speaker 1: Well that's a crushing blowed us. But maybe we can

658
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Speaker 1: one day recruiter, but not for this show. She will

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Speaker 1: not hear this, all right, Jeff, Jeff Darlington, thank you

660
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: very much for joining us. And yeah, next time you're

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Speaker 1: in Culver, please stop by our little cubicle, uh and

662
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: we'll set something up. You got guys, I appreciate it.

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00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: Talk about see Jeff, and you know we talked about

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Speaker 1: a personal lives. Are you gotta you know it's called

665
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: building the bridge. You know he feels a little closer

666
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: to you and I, you know, I said it's something

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Speaker 1: wild about you being a tough host to deal with.

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Speaker 1: Think a fantastic job on that segment and a minus.

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Speaker 1: Well you know I I didn't take that as a

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Speaker 1: real shot at me before I am difficult sometimes t D,

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Speaker 1: as t D can attest, I would give t D

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Speaker 1: half the bulk of the reason that's happening. I don't

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Speaker 1: even I don't even want to give t D, by

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Speaker 1: the way, a code word, because he's two for two.

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Speaker 1: So he's earned the benefit of the doubt, has he? Yeah? Yeah, all,

676
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: yes he has on that front. Yes, I wonder if

677
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: people are tipping him off to this, but either way,

678
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: he's getting it done. Yeah, that's true. Right before we

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Speaker 1: speak with our friend Connor or, let's let's talk a

680
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: little more about mini camps and UH, we'll go around

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Speaker 1: the horn here. There is no affiliation with the ESPN program. UH.

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Speaker 1: Intellectual property is not infringed upon by referencing that. UH.

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: And we will talk about one takeaway each from teams

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Speaker 1: that we are watching closely. Mark, when you are not

685
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: talking to high octane running backs coach running back coaches

686
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: from around the NFL, you are digging in on the Raiders.

687
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: Give me one takeaway from their mini camps. Well, this

688
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: was a sign to me most things. I found it

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Speaker 1: to be a fun team to look into this week.

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00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Because you seemed excited about it. I have no problem

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00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: covering the Raiders. I mean, we we take that team

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00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: down a week after week on this show. But looking

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00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: into the stuff coming out of camp, it's been almost

694
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: shockingly glowing over young players like a Maori Cooper and

695
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Latavious Murray Khalil Max. Some of the stuff is so

696
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: hyperbolic that I I want to believe that the Raiders

697
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: are making some sort of turnaround. I just need to

698
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: see it before I do, because it's June and I'm

699
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: getting tired of all the tropes and all the nonsense.

700
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: But when they talked start talking about players that haven't

701
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: even played a game or they paid you know, ten games,

702
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: and their monsters and their kings, and then the best,

703
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: well they got to prove it. The Raiders still have

704
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: to prove it. To me, I wrote positively about them,

705
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: and then they don't seem like a train wreck the

706
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: same way they were before because they have a youth

707
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: infusion of talent. I like that, But you gotta go

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Speaker 1: win some games. They average four point seven win since

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00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: two thousand three. Takeaway is they've got to prove it something.

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Speaker 1: This is an unfinished narrative, something that you saw from camp,

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00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm or something in the office. Well that those three

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00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: players specifically get gushed with like all everyone that saw

713
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: them said they're unstoppable. All right, Cooper, we'll see by

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Speaker 1: the game. Lest you took a look at you deep

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00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: living on a deep dive with the Arizona Cardinals. God,

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00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: the obvious takeaway we already addressed on Tuesday, Carson Palmer

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Speaker 1: and by extension, John Brown looked great. Let's let's go

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00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: a little deeper here. One thing that Alex Flanagan noted Sean.

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Speaker 1: She noted many things, but one thing that caught my eye.

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Speaker 1: Sean Weatherspoon, who was the falcons best defender a few

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00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: years ago before injuries hit, has already become the vocal

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Speaker 1: leader of their defense, taking over for Larry Foote. And

723
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: unlike Larry Foote can work in coverage too. But I

724
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: like that Weatherspoon has already come in and commanding the defense.

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Speaker 1: He's a vocal guy. If you've ever just heard him

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Speaker 1: in an interview, it doesn't surprise me. I guess that

727
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: he's a vocal leader because he's he seems like one

728
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: of those teammates that's just chirping and talking and that

729
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: teammates love all the time. Greg I would be the

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00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Sean Weatherspoon if I was a football players, that right,

731
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Speaker 1: A lot of chirping, a lot of honk, a lot

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00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: of honking. Greg, you have a takeaway on the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: My takeaway is there backing up the practice reps of

734
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning that brock Eiswalder is getting a lot of

735
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Speaker 1: work with the first team, which is a change from

736
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Speaker 1: the past. And it kind of speaks to what Peyton

737
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Speaker 1: Manning has been talking about this week that he's, you know, invigorated,

738
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: that there's no way he can get bored because he's

739
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: having to learn another new offense at this age and

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00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: another new team, and it's a brand new sort of

741
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: Broncos team right now. It's different. By the way, they

742
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: do have a left tackle they settled on. I guess

743
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: they have two takeaways. Tyson Brio. He is their left tackle.

744
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: They said he's going to be their guys rookie second

745
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: round pick. We got one. I like, Uh, finally I

746
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: will talk about my beloved New York Jets and Gino Smith.

747
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Uh has an up and down mini camp. He has

748
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: two decent days, one bad day and afterwards. I like

749
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I like this Todd Bowls because he doesn't. He's not

750
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: like going crazy um the way Rex did. But he

751
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: does keep it really said it's been up and down

752
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: instead of Smith. He makes good throws, he makes some

753
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: bad throws. There has to be more consistency for our

754
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks overall. Ryan Fitzpatrick also didn't necessarily light it up,

755
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: so just O t s. But I am fully aware

756
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: and cognizant that I'm going to be getting on this

757
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Geno coaster again, just no matter of how long, how

758
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: much longer I have to ride it. Uh Nothing I

759
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: saw from uh O t As or this camp tells

760
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: me that something clicked with Gino so far. So I'm

761
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: still under the impression it's gonna be a rocket, probably

762
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: eight more games, two and sixth start benched incomes fits too.

763
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I I don't know. I think

764
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: the defense is gonna win games from this year. But

765
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: don't get me started on your team. I can't I

766
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: can't believe we're here already. Were these teams are done

767
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: for the off season. The next time we'll see any

768
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: of them is training camp. We're there, We're almost there.

769
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: We gotta enjoy this time, you know what I'm saying.

770
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: The NFL is about to go dark at the end

771
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: of next week for six weeks. We gotta six Can

772
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: we enjoy that time? Yeah, it's about it right, feels fleeting.

773
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: I can feel a massive they're gonna start reporting, they

774
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: start trickling around. Um, so those are takeaways, Mark, what's

775
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: your takeaway? By the way from Raiders Skain? Uh, let

776
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: me get back to that on that one. Still sorting

777
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: through them, the gravel in the muck. By the way,

778
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: we have these up on the website. We'll also have

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00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: a forty Niners one and uh, I don't remember the

780
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: other team, so many ones and they're all good, all right,

781
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: finally moving on, there's a man that we need to

782
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: get on the line. And here's the thing. I pitched

783
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: this yesterday. Greg wasn't too excited about. I said, I

784
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: love Connor. I love Connor. He has a lot of insights,

785
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting things to say. What if we

786
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: gave him during the summer, during when it's like we're

787
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: just saying it's about to be quiet, gave him a

788
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: platform just get something off his chest, just you know,

789
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: gripe he has what's grinding his gears? Seems right? And uh,

790
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: Greg does sin't to have an issue with the title,

791
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: but the the idea, but the title gave him a

792
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: little bit of pause. But that's what I like the

793
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: most about it. This is a segment, but I'd like

794
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: to call or are you kidding me? Come on, Greg?

795
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: I like the guitar, all right? I mean, did the

796
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: listeners even know what Connor's last name is? Or which

797
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: is a KEYP? Now? I imagine a graphic when we're

798
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: on NFL network one day where it's O R R

799
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Speaker 1: and then like a big like headshot of Connor. Uh,

800
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: maybe he dots the eye of kidding So it's or

801
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And then you keep playing this whole

802
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: thing where I don't where I hate it? Are you

803
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: kidding me? I thought it was or you kidding me?

804
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: Could be at waits give it a shot ahead more?

805
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? All right? It reminds me, I said,

806
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: I said that it reminds me of like a David

807
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: Letterman segment. I think you were you were hinting that

808
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: I was biting off Letterman somehow. That is exactly what

809
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: I was saying. That kind of reminded me of like

810
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: a sec each one of the Letterman segments will kind

811
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: of have that kind of wacky uh you know. Yeah. Anyway,

812
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: so Connor is on the phone. I think I'm just

813
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here enjoying. I was when I envisioned that.

814
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: I was really I was really thinking it was gonna

815
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: be the guitar thing. That's what I heard in my head.

816
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: When when when you came up with this idea? So

817
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: this is really exciting the great ones? Can you know

818
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: anticipate like that? So what I'll do, I'll set you up.

819
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Um and and I'm sure you have something on your mind,

820
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, So Connor, can you tell us right now

821
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: what is on your mind? What makes you say? Are

822
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I think, well, we discussed two things

823
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: heading into the podcast, but I will say the one

824
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: relative to football is uh. I believe it was Chris

825
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: that brought up today the Falcons cornerback trufon whether he's

826
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: among the elite cornerbacks in the NFL. And uh, maybe

827
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm just in June mode, but I'm kind of just

828
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: wondering who cares? I mean, outside of quarterback, I don't

829
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: really see the point in Connor, please pause for the

830
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: guitar squeals. Outside of quarterbacks, I don't see the point

831
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: in in debating individual greatness because outside of like four

832
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: or five players in the league, a lot of people

833
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: are just the product of the system, you know, product

834
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: of the system. Do we you know, what what are

835
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: we doing here? Like let me know why why would

836
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: you go into the Falcons training camp and just be like,

837
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna find out who the

838
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: real elite people are to say, like, what's what does

839
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: that do for? Anybody? Does provide a service? You know,

840
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: And let's workshop our way through this. At the end

841
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: of these ants, you should always say the catchphrase, so

842
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: whatever you're done, I mean or you kidding me? You know,

843
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: said conviction. Alright, So you're against you're what I'm getting.

844
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: You're against any rankings of positions other than quarterbacks individual eliteness,

845
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, other other than the quarterback position. Because what's

846
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: the point I mean, you know, we're never gonna know

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Speaker 1: what Richard Sherman would have been like on the tack wire.

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Speaker 1: We're never gonna know if he would have been the

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Speaker 1: same great player here. Even if he was, he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have gotten the same amount of attention. So Connor says,

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's overrated boom exactly what I'm saying headlines, All right,

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Speaker 1: do you got anything else for rest? You have? You

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Speaker 1: have anything else? What else is getting your girdle here? Um?

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Speaker 1: I it's not related to football, but I was. I

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Speaker 1: was actually watching like a game or something like that recently.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and then I turned my attention to Everybody

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Speaker 1: Loves Raymond. That show. I can't believe it was on

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Speaker 1: so long. It's just so stupid, Romanto stupid, it's terrible shows.

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Speaker 1: I had a friend of mine. I called my friend

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Speaker 1: and I asked him, if you watch if I wasn't crazy,

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Speaker 1: but you know, at some point did your friend watch?

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Speaker 1: Didn't like why didn't everyone just become a better person

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Speaker 1: over time? Like why didn't his wife just learn how

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Speaker 1: to cook? And why didn't he just appreciate his wife

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Speaker 1: was too busy nagging him for everything he ever did?

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Speaker 1: It seems like I never saw I never watched that

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Speaker 1: show because I was under the age of forty. He's

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Speaker 1: now pushing for a mini series. It wasn't that Greg

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Speaker 1: would now watch that show. It wasn't that horrible ninety

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Speaker 1: nineties arrow where every television show and commercial on TV

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00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: had to have the man look like a complete bumbling

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Speaker 1: idiot who couldn't do anything right because they realized that

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Speaker 1: women were the only ones watching TV. This is not

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Speaker 1: your segment, I mean with less is like I need

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Speaker 1: my hot takes. I know, West not even a hot take.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely true. This look at the male characters on

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Speaker 1: TV in the nineties. This is or you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: You haven't even this isn't West going on here, that's

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Speaker 1: something different. I think that. I think West going on

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Speaker 1: is a strong supplement maybe when you're on vacation or something.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, insummation, what you're saying, Connor, is that when

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Speaker 1: you think of Ray Romano, there's one question you have.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Right? So that's it, Connor, Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. We'll talk to you next week. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for letting this segment go down in flames in one.

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Speaker 1: No one's listening, so it's good. It's fantastic, Connor. I've

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Speaker 1: been one over alright. See this is I feel like

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Speaker 1: this is to bring it back to me. I feel

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00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: like this is a theme with Greg sometimes he underestimates

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Speaker 1: mean that work nicely? What did that have to do

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00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: with you? Just like you thought that that wasn't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: I thought it worked. Well, I'm gonna continue to defences

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Speaker 1: with Dan and say, excellent point. You need to be

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Speaker 1: validated on a daily basis. So what Dan is saying

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Speaker 1: is that Connor's segment is a big credit to Dan. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you listen, Well, it's some credit to Dan. Alright, read

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Speaker 1: between the lines. Okay, anyway, but Connor, thank you, And

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Speaker 1: I feel like that. By the way, also thinks he

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand why anyone like Seinfeld, I always expecting to

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Speaker 1: hear that one from it. Well, that's why later in

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Speaker 1: the summer, will he'll we'll hear about that. That is

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Speaker 1: why Connor is the real the one we picked for this,

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00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: because you when you hang out with him for three hours,

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Speaker 1: he'll say something You're like, wait a minute, what, and

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Speaker 1: it's it is a take that is so bizarre, and

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Speaker 1: it's coming from someone who's not been on the earth

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Speaker 1: for that long of a time. He's a young guy,

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00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: perfect perfect news is a bit of an old soul,

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Speaker 1: uh and documented by the fact that he's twenty six

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Speaker 1: years old. He has a mortgage, all right, narried, and

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Speaker 1: he was watched every episode of Everybody loves he's never had,

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Speaker 1: he's never been a youth. He like he likes khakis.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's also huh. I love Seinfeld, but

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Speaker 1: I can see how when we are growing up, I

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Speaker 1: probably feel the same way. Like I didn't watch the

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Speaker 1: arg Bunker Show or whatever that was. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: that humor. I think Seinfeld is iconic on a different

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Speaker 1: level than that show. But you know that show, when

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Speaker 1: we were growing up was considered the greatest sitcom and

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Speaker 1: in history. Yeah, um yes, Generations divide Alright, So that's

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Speaker 1: it for the show. Uh, thank you, thanks step Darlington

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Speaker 1: for coming on talking about your personal life a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Thank you connor Or for sharing your thoughts about everything. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is Dan Hansis signing off for what's your nickname again?

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Speaker 1: The Mailman, The Boss, and Sully Behind the Glass three

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Speaker 1: shows next week, so listen please h