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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive is Raven's Friday, Ravens Friday

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Speaker 3: Out and Tail Out. It's Pert Steeler Land. I was

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Speaker 3: Steelers hosting the Ravens one o'clock on Sunday. There were

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Speaker 3: a lot of people mad who asked me, like, in

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Speaker 3: the weeks leading up to this game, weren't why isn't

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Speaker 3: this a night game? Why is this a one o'clock game?

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Steelers play Thursday night, Yeah, right right

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Speaker 3: in Cleveland. Wouldn't exactly be fair to make them play

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Speaker 3: a night game Sunday night, or you know, even Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: And then get it in as quick as possible. Yeah

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Speaker 4: makes sense, I mean on a Thursday, that makes all

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Speaker 4: the sense.

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Speaker 3: Fair is fair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, there's enough more is enough rest advantages, and

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Speaker 4: it's there's enough you know, difficult things here for the

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Speaker 3: So no, that's better for that's fair. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's not fair fair, but yeah, way it is.

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Speaker 3: It's as fair as they can make it. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: And as you saw last night that the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 3: going to do.

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Speaker 4: Right against a massive division opponents that happened to be

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The only difference here is that the Steelers will

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Speaker 3: play back to back division games in these in this short,

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Speaker 3: short week, So it's a.

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Speaker 4: You know, not not ideal, not ideal. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: feel for Washington because they had to go to Philly.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, if this was Cleveland this week and then

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Speaker 4: short week in Baltimore, that'd be kind of similar to

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Speaker 4: what they're doing. I mean, just in terms of how

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Speaker 4: much magnitude of the game exactly first place, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was a big component last night. I thought Philly

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Speaker 4: was a better team, but they outscored them, like twenty

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Speaker 4: to six in the fourth quarter. They look for ragged

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jane Daniels didn't look like Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about him. It's two in a row

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have that, you know, it's a November wall

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Speaker 3: that rookie said. I think to a certain Greek. Now,

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Speaker 3: teams have more film on you. Yeah, you know, you've

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Speaker 3: got more stuff to go off of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And I also think their roster is a little thing.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's been a great year. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying it's over. I still team, Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 4: that they're not a big boy, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think they've shown that the last two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, you know, I thought as I was watching

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Speaker 3: that game, especially like the first three quarters, like Steelers

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Speaker 3: moved the ball much more consistently than like Philly was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought they were pretty disjointed. Miss two field goals,

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Speaker 3: They really you know in Saquon didn't start getting He

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Speaker 4: And I didn't think Hurts did either. Frankly, I didn't

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Speaker 4: think it was a great game until the end. Really,

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Speaker 4: But I I think the Eagles defense deserves credit. They're

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Speaker 4: bit a little differently constructed on that side of the ball. Now,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Carter is an utter superstar. I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: and they're young Georgia guys seem to be getting better.

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Speaker 4: actually a strength. I was.

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Speaker 3: I was a Bond fan. Yeah yeah, back when he

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Speaker 4: Think they used them more than an edge than they

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Speaker 4: And then defense is good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well it doesn't matter because no matter what Philadelphia was

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Speaker 3: just tell you right now, folks, I am not picking

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Speaker 3: the Steelers in Philadelphia. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't win games there.

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Speaker 3: I've seen way too many of these where Steeler's Super

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just it happens over and over and over. Crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So but this week the Steelers get the Ravens

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Speaker 3: team they've beaten seven out of the last eight times

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Speaker 3: a sudden decide to go zero coverage, a zero blitz

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Speaker 3: many times you've seen this. A few years ago. The

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Speaker 4: Like I wonder if he out thinks himself a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Think I think some of that is it. Sometimes he

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean they've lost a lot in a

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you beat yourself. I thought Washington kind of did

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Speaker 3: go down twelve to ten, they're in field goal range,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't quite approve of that. I didn't know

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Speaker 4: if that was a Zangen'salez decision too or forty three

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I don't know if either team

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Speaker 4: I don't. I thought the same thing though, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: smarter and you know all that stuff. Just yeah, kis

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Speaker 3: You're in the fourth quarter, take the lead, lead, they.

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Speaker 3: And so I think sometimes Harbaugh does some silly things

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's going the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes he does things outside of the norm that

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Speaker 3: that that's not the move to make here in.

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Speaker 4: Along those lines, Steeler games aside for them, they lose

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Speaker 4: or three, you know, more than the team that's constructed

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Speaker 3: The team that runs the ball that well should not

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Speaker 4: And usually they've better than the league's worst past defense,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just it's just something that that's nagged

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin prepped us for that. It is Wednesday meeting.

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Speaker 3: Really he said, look, if this is a close game,

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Speaker 3: going to do something crazy to try to win the game. Now,

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Speaker 3: sometimes that stuff works sometimes, but sure oftentimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: You do something crazy, like you go zero blitz against

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Speaker 3: a team that's at that point, I think had scored

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Speaker 3: I think there's Steelers were down two and end up

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Speaker 3: winning seventeen to ten, So it must been down one.

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Speaker 3: They're kind of already in field goal. I get it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you're trying to knock them out of field goal possibility. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It comes down to a lot of the Belichick stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, how can we lose this game?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's how you can do That's how you can

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Speaker 4: I mean, don't put yourself in a position where, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're in losing time.

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Speaker 3: Now now we got to score a touchdown to tie it.

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Speaker 4: And we've talked about this a lot, but I also

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Speaker 4: I might have war horses and you might have two queens,

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Speaker 4: and you know, like we start out to say, but

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Speaker 4: we don't finish. I mean I don't think they do.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think the Ravens, you know, have different

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Speaker 4: because we've matched up so many times, it's a huge advantage.

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Speaker 4: And I get the hunch that Harbaugh doesn't have or

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Speaker 4: Tomlin doesn't have Harbaugh's number that's too strong, but might

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in this match, we'll think back to

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Speaker 3: go for two in that situation, like so people were, well,

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Speaker 3: you know they were going to beat the Chiefs. Well, no,

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Speaker 3: they were going to tie the Chiefs if he kicks

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Speaker 3: the extra point. Yeah yeah, yeah, which is probably the

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Speaker 3: you still need to convert it. Yeah, you need to

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Speaker 3: convert a two point version. And again that goes back

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Speaker 3: to what Harbad did against against the Steelers a few

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Speaker 3: get within a point. All you gotta do is send

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Speaker 3: out the greatest kicker of all time to kick a

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Speaker 3: point after or you're gonna put this to a fifty

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Speaker 3: to fifty proposition with your offense on the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's really two point conversions. I think over the

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Speaker 3: last five or six years, there's like forty seven percent.

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Speaker 4: I bet they're under Yeah, I mean you can still

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Speaker 3: There's so many beats. There's so many things that could happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I do remember having that conversation after

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Speaker 4: what I mean, there's still more than needed done.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the memories of Russell Wilson was talking about

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Speaker 3: No, No, I do think Tomlin likes to play those

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Speaker 3: He was asked about Jackson if Jayden playing Jayde and

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Speaker 4: Yes, I know, Lamar is only one in Pittsburgh once

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Speaker 3: you need, you know, you kind of need to know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but this whole idea that they have to

437
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Speaker 3: break their rule where Russell Wilson is going to be

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Speaker 3: gone right right, I don't see that happening at all.

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Speaker 4: Again, I can't imagine him just being like I'm running

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Speaker 4: out the door of the second this season's over. I

441
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Speaker 4: can't wait to get out of here. I don't even

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Speaker 4: care if you.

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Speaker 3: Call it way too much fun. Yeah yeah, yeah, And

444
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 3: these games are part of it. And and so this

445
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Speaker 3: could be the first of several meetings over the next

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Speaker 3: few years between Russell Wilson and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: I think it's extremely, extremely possible, and I'm not even

448
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Speaker 4: implying this is true, but for Florio's statement to even

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Speaker 4: be true, maybe the Steelers want to play more than

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Speaker 4: three games with them first.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, well there's that you know, things

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Speaker 3: can happen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he could turn into a pumpkin too, you know,

454
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Speaker 4: like maybe I want to see a whole year of you.

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Speaker 4: I want to see him play the division. You know,

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Speaker 4: maybe he.

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Speaker 3: Can't beat anybody in the divisions.

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Speaker 4: Right, maybe the division games are brutal for him. Who knows?

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Speaker 4: And give me as much information as possible. You said

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Speaker 4: this the time. LAB says it all the time. This

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Speaker 4: organization doesn't make decisions until they have to write. You know,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just what they do and learn more. It's

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Speaker 3: largely the smart way to do business. And you don't.

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Speaker 3: You don't make knee your decisions, right.

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Speaker 4: And I can understand sometimes in the contract world of

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Speaker 4: if we sign him now, maybe we'll get him for

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Speaker 4: eighty cents on the dollar and we'll more cap space.

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Speaker 4: I don't know in this case, in such a high

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Speaker 4: profile starting quarterback situation, the money he has, his wife,

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Speaker 4: the lifestyle he has, what he's accomplished in the league,

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Speaker 4: that they're gonna be fighting over two percent of cap space. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, but yeah, we should get to

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Speaker 3: a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Radio Network,

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Speaker 3: LOLLI he is Matt Williamson and we'll be back with

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Speaker 3: more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and we're joined on the Justin Miller Hotline,

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Speaker 3: which is actually being manned by CJ. Wolfley. Today. Substitute teacher. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we got the substitute in, so we're going a little

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Speaker 3: crazy today. We got Missy Matthews, Steelers sideline reporter on

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Speaker 3: the hotline here and Missy, how you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's Ravens week, it's Friday. What is

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Speaker 1: there to complain about?

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Speaker 3: Nothing? Absolutely nothing. So you've hidden all your purple clothes

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Speaker 3: this week?

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Speaker 1: You know what? I have gotten yelled at many of

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Speaker 1: time for wearing something that is a similar even just

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Speaker 1: like color scheme, not the color. So I am very

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Speaker 1: superstitious about it. I even made sure when I got

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Speaker 1: my nails done yesterday the color for purple. I'm all in.

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Speaker 3: I'm all in, so MESSI. The Steelers go to Washington

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Speaker 3: last Sunday, they beat the Commanders down there, and Steelers

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Speaker 3: Nation showed up again in that stadium and kind of

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Speaker 3: took it over.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: What do you see reactions from the players to that

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Speaker 3: stuff when you're when you're on the field, that, I mean,

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Speaker 3: they have to look at that, especially the guys who

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Speaker 3: were the guys. What was Mike Williams Did you see

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Speaker 3: him at all in his response to that last week?

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Speaker 3: Well with Preston Smith?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Preston Smith I saw more. Obviously Mike

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Speaker 1: Williams did not play a lot, but I got a

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Speaker 1: chance to interview him right after the game, right after

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Speaker 1: the touchdown. You know, they yes, And I even said,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you know, what do you think about

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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're not at home yet in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: but Steelers fans, and he's like, this is seriously crazy,

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Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, but this is cool. And you

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Speaker 1: could tell he was kind of like, man, all right.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just when I played them in Pittsburgh when

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Speaker 1: he was with the Jets. It was just like that

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Speaker 1: in Washington. Obviously not the same, but it was funny.

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Speaker 1: And I do think, you know, I'll give Washington fans credit,

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Speaker 1: and they have a lot to be excited about. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of them, and trust me, when things

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Speaker 1: were going right for them, you heard them. The whole

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Speaker 1: towel thing, as we anticipated, did not work, did not

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Speaker 1: The terrible towel just completely out outdes these other like

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Speaker 1: gimmicky towels and they're not waving them at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So those were kind of not very noticeable. Some of

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Speaker 1: their seats are like a burgundy British color, so it

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Speaker 1: just didn't work for them. The yellow pops more. But

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Speaker 1: I did notice, you know, some of their fans very enthusiastic,

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Speaker 1: including who were sitting in the front row behind the

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Speaker 1: Steelers bench and who was kind of giving it to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers defensive players during the early portions of the game,

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Speaker 1: to the point where I was like, man, is this

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Speaker 1: guy gonna get kicked out? And he was kind of

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Speaker 1: like really going after Patrick Queen, which I was like, Man,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen would not be the guy I would pick

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Speaker 1: to mess with today. He's like a man on a mission.

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Speaker 1: He's playing well, and I don't know, He's probably the

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Speaker 1: guy I would want on my side if I got

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Speaker 1: in a fight. Right and after the game, you can

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Speaker 1: bet some of those defensive backs made sure to let

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Speaker 1: that fan know who won the game, and he was

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Speaker 1: still there, shockingly, But yeah, I think the players definitely

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Speaker 1: notice it. And then it's kind of the opposite a

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Speaker 1: way sometimes too, when you're in an opposing stadium and

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Speaker 1: you have, you know, nnions are sitting behind your team bench.

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Speaker 4: So do you know, off the top of your head

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Speaker 4: how many Raven Steelers games you've covered from the sideline

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Speaker 4: And is there any that just stand out or is

560
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Speaker 4: that picking your favorite flavor ice cream or a favorite

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Speaker 4: child type of thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the number. I should calculate that just

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Speaker 1: for my own You know, did you start miss is

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Speaker 1: it like two thousand and nine, twenty ten somewhere near? Nope?

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Speaker 1: Not told twenty twelve, twelve.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So in my first one, of course, that I've actually

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Speaker 1: like been there live on the sidelines to witness is

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Speaker 1: the Christmas Day game, the Immaculate Extension with Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: and Ramone Foster spiking the ball. I mean it was Christmas,

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Speaker 1: they won the division. That was just that game definitely

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Speaker 1: sticks out, I think the most.

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Speaker 4: How could it not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and you expect something similar in this game.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting yesterday Arthur Smith had his press conference

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Speaker 3: and he said that, hey, look this is this is

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Speaker 3: a playoff type atmospheres or as close as you can

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Speaker 3: get to it in a regular season game. We're in

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Speaker 3: week eleven, you know. This isn't Week seventeen or seventeen

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Speaker 3: like this. Yeah, nothing like that, But it does have

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Speaker 3: that feel to it. It does.

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Speaker 1: I really think there's just a little uptick in the

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Speaker 1: intensity this week. As you said it, it's not do

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Speaker 1: or die, but I think both teams know what to

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Speaker 1: win in this matchup. In Round one of this. This

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Speaker 1: match could potentially me moving down the road, and especially

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers since their first AFC North team, and

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Speaker 1: we know how important division games are, so obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot can change depending on what happens. They have four

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Speaker 1: straight AFC North games, you know, starting Sunday. That's no

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Speaker 1: easy task a short week Thursday you're heading to Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that it does have that playoff

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Speaker 1: five not the same as you know sometimes, like even

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Speaker 1: last year that game in Baltimore meant nothing to the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: but the Steelers had to win it. They had to

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Speaker 1: win it and have a million other things happened, but

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Speaker 1: that was different. Luckily the rain will not It will

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Speaker 1: not be raining like it wasn't Baltimore Week eighteen last year.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it has that playoff vibe. I

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Speaker 1: think you added some new storylines with Patrick Queen and

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Speaker 1: just just Sean Elliott, Derrick Henry and Arthur Smith. It's

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Speaker 1: just like an already great matchup where you're never short

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Speaker 1: of storylines. You somehow get some like really good ones

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Speaker 1: on top of the usual suspects.

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of traveling, would you expect more Ravens fans

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Speaker 4: here or more Steeler fans there.

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Speaker 3: That would be neither Matt that the Steelers travel well

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Speaker 3: to most places, they don't travel well to Baltimore, and

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Speaker 3: Baltimore fans don't travel well.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of what I was you're thinking. I was like,

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Speaker 4: it's probably a low percentage of.

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Speaker 1: Both, right, yeah, for sure, And I think you know

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Speaker 1: you're going to get some here and there, but it's

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Speaker 1: not like we're you know, they're taking over a stadium

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Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I think you're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: lot of Kansas City fans on Christmas Day and probably

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City fans that don't live in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Steelers Baltimore and with Dale, it's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: you know who the home team is and godspeed to

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Speaker 1: the opposing fans that are in here. Depending on what happens,

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Speaker 1: stay on your.

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Speaker 4: Side of the fence kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, right right, Yeah, it's it's just always too

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Speaker 3: big of a game, even when they're Steeler fans want

625
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Speaker 3: these games because it gives you an opportunity to take

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Speaker 3: that walk down memory lane and remember Troy Polamalu, you know,

627
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Speaker 3: stripsack or we're returning one for a touchdown. Or Hines

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Speaker 3: Ward blasting ed, there's just too much there that you're

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Speaker 3: not gonna if you are a season ticket holder, you're

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Speaker 3: not selling your season tickets to a to a Ravens game.

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Speaker 3: They're just not.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like the price is high for this game too. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is they sought after ticket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't know. I feel like that's like,

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Speaker 1: you can't be a Steelers fan. You sell your ticket

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Speaker 1: to a Ravens fan, right, It's in the handbook. It's

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Speaker 1: not allowed, right, right.

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00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: That's actually when you when you buy the tickets, it

639
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: says that you are not to sell these two a

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Speaker 3: Ravens fan, unless.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're like selling it to a neighbor

642
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: or something. We're okay with that, you know, make sure

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Speaker 1: they're wearing a Steelers jersey or black and gold. But yeah, this, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's a one o'clock game, which is

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00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: also crazy, but it still has that feel of like

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Speaker 1: a prime time you know, blowout match.

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Speaker 3: Missy uh. Last week was not Russell Wilson's best game

648
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Speaker 3: in terms of completion percentage.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 3: The win was a little hectic on the field, and

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Speaker 3: some of the deeper passes they were missing on early.

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Speaker 3: What was his demeanor like on the sideline? Did did

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Speaker 3: I mean, was he still upbeat and positive, like, hey,

654
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Speaker 3: look I'm gonna get this, uh, you know, and and

655
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Speaker 3: he did ended up doing that. But was did he

656
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Speaker 3: stay pretty positive that because it wasn't the prettiest of games.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, he really is that steady eddie where

658
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Speaker 1: he is positive all the time, where sometimes I'm like, man,

659
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Speaker 1: I wish I could have like five percent of his

660
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Speaker 1: energy when things aren't going right. I mean, it's very admirable.

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Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith even talked about it this week. That

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Speaker 1: is just his nature. And I think even his first

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Speaker 1: start in Pittsburgh where he was knocking off some of

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Speaker 1: that rust and literally home fans are booing you, he

665
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Speaker 1: still was able to It's almost like staying in neutral,

666
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Speaker 1: but you're still you have more positive vibes and you're

667
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Speaker 1: not letting the negative one the negative ones creep in,

668
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Speaker 1: And he definitely had that. He is very vocal. He

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Speaker 1: goes up and down the bench, talks to obviously quarterback coach,

670
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Speaker 1: Mike Sullivan, Arthur Smith, you know, even Pat Meyer. I mean,

671
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Speaker 1: he goes down the line of coaches players. He's always

672
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Speaker 1: pumping them up. He's always saying we can do this.

673
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Speaker 1: If you watch the sights and sounds that was cut

674
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Speaker 1: on the Steelers YouTube page or Steelers dot com this week,

675
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Speaker 1: they had a little bit of him, you know, talking

676
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Speaker 1: to the guys before they went out of out of

677
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Speaker 1: the tunnel right before the game, and same thing, very positive,

678
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Speaker 1: like let's go get him, we got this, We're going

679
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Speaker 1: to be great type deal, and he really just he

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Speaker 1: is consistent in that. I will give him that.

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Speaker 3: There's some like some of the stuff that you heard

682
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Speaker 3: about him from previous teams, people took that as fake.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he can fake his attitude at least

685
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Speaker 3: nobody could do that, right and.

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Speaker 1: No, not on your best day. I don't think. I

687
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Speaker 1: don't think anybody could get through a whole day faking it.

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of his positivity and the outlook,

689
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Speaker 4: this outline there is who he is, of course, but

690
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Speaker 4: I also think it's because he's had success. He's been

691
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Speaker 4: around Pete Carroll, who's like the most optimistic human being

692
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Speaker 4: on the planet, and he's so well prepared. You know,

693
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Speaker 4: just even watching him in camp, he'd throw a touchdown

694
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Speaker 4: and then what's the next play? You know, like I'm

695
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: not celebrating stuff. I'm here to do business and I'm

696
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: very well prepared for it. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, it was funny hearing Arthur Smith

698
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: talk about how his you know, his wife sometimes facetimes

699
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: him on Friday nights to see if he's actually in

700
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Speaker 1: the office and he has to like move the camera

701
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: and show that he is in there. With Russell's down

702
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: on East Carson Street grabbing a brew, and even Russell

703
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Speaker 1: was asked about and said the same thing. I think

704
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Speaker 1: they both just have that attention to detail, that like

705
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Speaker 1: what is one more thing we can do to make

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Speaker 1: us better to make that a touchdown and not three

707
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: points or you know, getting stopped. And they just have

708
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: that like mania, cool NonStop football brains that are probably

709
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: very hard to turn off, especially during the season.

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Speaker 4: They probably put the clicker down finally, and then Arthur

711
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Speaker 4: Smith gets a text on his way home as he's

712
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Speaker 4: pulling off South Water Street. You know, what do we

713
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Speaker 4: do this?

714
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Speaker 1: It'll tell you like who is going to leave first?

715
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Speaker 1: You know, like I stayed longer.

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Speaker 3: And Russell might still have his pads on from practice

717
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Speaker 3: because that's just I can't fault that. I just look

718
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: at it. It's it's kind of refreshing to see a

719
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Speaker 3: guy who's who's been at this so long, you know,

720
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Speaker 3: thirteen years in the league, and you can tell he

721
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Speaker 3: just loves the.

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Speaker 4: Game, he loves going to work. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how that doesn't become you know, just

724
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Speaker 3: I don't know how other guys don't pick up with

725
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: that and want to be like that, you know, right,

726
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Speaker 3: And it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean he talks about the chasing greatness

728
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: and how he immediately aligned on football views and just

729
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: philosophy with Mike Tomlin right away. That is why we

730
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Speaker 1: all say the standard is the standard. That is something

731
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Speaker 1: that he embedded in the culture of the Pittsburgh Steelers

732
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Speaker 1: when he became the head coach and threw out I mean,

733
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Speaker 1: you literally can sign a guy even you know, like

734
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Speaker 1: Russ and those different guys when they got signed in

735
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Speaker 1: March by like the first OTAs when they're talking to

736
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Speaker 1: the media, they're using tomlinisms, like not quoting coach Tomlin,

737
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: but like as part of their answers and things, and

738
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Speaker 1: you understand why it registers. And I think for us too,

739
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: like could you imagine having your career you did in Seattle,

740
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Speaker 1: obviously Denver probably not, you know, high up on your

741
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: resume list of things that happened. But if you can

742
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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs and win with another team, that

743
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Speaker 1: says a lot about you, and I think you know

744
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: that is chasing greatness for him is to get back

745
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl and to maybe prove people wrong

746
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: of Hey, I can do it somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Ay, Missy, We're gonna let you go. We appreciate

748
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Speaker 3: you dropping by, and well we'll see you on Sunday.

749
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a fun one. Can't wait for

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Speaker 3: this one. Steelers Ravens one o'clock at Akroshuer Stadium. Our

751
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: guest has been Missy Matthews. Steelers sideline report of you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna have to dress quite as warm this weekend, Missy,

754
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Speaker 3: as it has been the last couple of days. I

755
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Speaker 3: think it's supposed to be in the sixties, so it's

756
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Speaker 3: pretty nice. Yeah, it shouldn't be bad.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no rain or snow. I'm good with it. Just

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Speaker 1: don't wear purple.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie you're listening

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Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

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Speaker 3: and I'll be back with more right after.

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Speaker 2: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and.

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Speaker 3: We are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt Steelers Ravens on Sunday Can't wait. Can't

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Speaker 3: wait for this one just the latest installment, and a

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Speaker 3: victory for these two teams would mean different things, I

770
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: think for both teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's safe to say. I think public

772
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: perception and I sort of agree with it is kind

773
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: of super Bowl or bust for the Ravens at this point.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have the MVP quarterback, the two time MVP.

775
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Speaker 4: I thought they were right in contention for best team

776
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Speaker 4: in the league last year. That it's sneaking in the

777
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: wild card at ten wins and losing in Round one

778
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 4: in Buffalo or whatever would probably be a disappointing season

779
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Speaker 4: where the Steelers. I kind of look at a big

780
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Speaker 4: picture and I think a lot of the national folks

781
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: do too, like, ooh, are they coming back strong? Now?

782
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Speaker 4: You know, like, can they play a lot of different

783
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: brands of football? Can they throw on a bad pass

784
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: defense where maybe the last three or four years you

785
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to exploit the weaknesses? You know what

786
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: I mean? Can they beat me anyway they want? Was

787
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Speaker 4: still the physicality and the things that we know aren't

788
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Speaker 4: going away, you know, like kind of like Washington, you know,

789
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 4: you lose two in a row all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: it's like, well that was a nice story. But yeah,

791
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: you know, maybe they're not quite what they were looking

792
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: like they could be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of yeah butts. If the Steelers

794
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Speaker 3: lose this game, if they win this game, they hand

795
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Speaker 3: Baltimore their second division loss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say Baltimore is not in a great spot then.

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Speaker 3: Now, even if you then lose in Baltimore, if everything

798
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Speaker 3: plays out and you know, let's say you're four and

799
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Speaker 3: two in the division, well so would they at best?

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Speaker 3: At best, that's what that's what they would get. You

801
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: know that that's the best that they could do. If

802
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: you go five and one division, you're winning the division.

803
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: Even if you lose in Baltimore, you're winning the division

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Speaker 3: as long as you finished, you know, with the proper

805
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: amount of wins. But that would be a good way

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Speaker 3: to get there.

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Speaker 1: M hm.

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Speaker 4: I mean we already know they're losing in Philly. I mean,

809
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Speaker 4: can'tasity He's not gonna be an easy game. If you're

810
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Speaker 4: five and one in the division, you're probably the division

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Speaker 4: champ when it's all said, I think so, I mean,

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Speaker 4: the chances are I don't think the Ravens is gonna

813
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Speaker 4: run the because the Ravens would then have four losses,

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Speaker 4: you'd have two, and you'd have a game up on

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Speaker 4: them in the division, and you'd be one and zero

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Speaker 4: in the division. I don't think it's possible for since

817
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Speaker 4: he to win the division. I know it's mathematically possible,

818
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: but I mean they'd have to run the table, and

819
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: these two teams would have to really fall in their face.

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Speaker 3: So this would be a huge step. And I also

821
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Speaker 3: think a lot of the pressure in this game is

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Speaker 3: on the Ravens. We've heard, you know, Lamar knows he

823
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Speaker 3: Lamar knows he's one and three in his starts against

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. He's about his press conferences. Why you know, why?

825
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: What can you put your Is there something you can

826
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Speaker 3: put your finger on as to why you're one and

827
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Speaker 3: three against the Steelers. I have no idea. Yeah, why

828
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: you play so poorly against the Steelers? I have no idea.

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00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh knows he's lost seven of the last eight

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Speaker 3: games to the Steelers. Oh, absolutely, Like I guarantee you

831
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Speaker 3: that eats at him twenty four hours a day, even

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Speaker 3: in the offseason.

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Speaker 4: I think he might. Again, it's hard to speak on

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Speaker 4: character or characteristics of these human beings, but it seems

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Speaker 4: like Harbaugh is very aware of we went undefeated in

836
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Speaker 4: the preseason, we have one hundred yard streak going, you know,

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Speaker 4: things like that, like that, little things I think he's

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Speaker 4: a little more aware of than others.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least willing to acknowledge them publicly. Whereas some

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Speaker 3: coaches just like I don't look at that, I don't

841
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: read the papers. I think Harbaugh does, and he's not

842
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: afraid to acknowledge it.

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00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: And it's probably eaten at him as much as not

844
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: waiting a super Bowl lately or whatever. That man, does

845
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: this team have our number or is it just we

846
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: rest at our guys in week eighteen or you know

847
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: we haven't had lamar or excuse it away. There's no

848
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Speaker 4: excuses this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just know how Tomlin would handle this.

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Speaker 3: He would be poking if the shoe were on the

851
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Speaker 3: other foot, he would be poking the bear. Like if

852
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Speaker 3: Roethlisberger at this point was one and three against.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens, oh or even Cam Hayward, you know, right.

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Speaker 3: He'd be poking them with a stick all week long,

855
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: just picking at that scab all week long, like, oh yeah,

856
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can beat these guys.

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Speaker 4: My most competitive dudes. Yeah, and Ben was probably that

858
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 4: guy you know on the field in clutch situations of course,

859
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: and would be driving at home, I'm sure, And I'd

860
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: be shocked if it's a blowout either way.

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00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean they have happened on occasion.

862
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Speaker 4: I mean it's not unheard of, right, but I think

863
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 4: that the styles make fights, and these two styles mesh

864
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Speaker 4: pretty well for a really good competitive game.

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Speaker 3: Well here's the thing, and t J. Watt said this,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna picked away. We talked to talk to t J.

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Speaker 3: Watt today and I thought he said something interested he

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Speaker 3: was He was asked about that the similarities between the team,

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Speaker 3: and he said, look, these two are They're the two

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Speaker 3: best teams in the division pretty consistently year in and

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Speaker 3: year out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you draft guys to beat the other team. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: stylistically things are going to match up, because all right,

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Speaker 3: you're you know, we got to figure out who we get,

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Speaker 3: who we drafted to beat Ronnie Stanley on a consistent

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Speaker 3: basis over the next you know, eight years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you go draft Alex high Smith. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens are looking okay, well.

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Speaker 4: Certainly when Lamar got picked. Well, now the way we

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Speaker 4: play defense has to.

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Speaker 3: Change, right, But you know, so you draft guys you get,

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Speaker 3: you increase your team speed. How can we beat Lamar?

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Speaker 3: How can we handle Lamar better?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we better get fast queen and Wilson and linebacker

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Guys that can at least

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Speaker 4: compete with his open field ability, right, things like that.

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Speaker 3: So you build your team to beat the team that

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Speaker 3: you have to beat.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure it comes up to you know, like

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Speaker 4: offhand remark by the linebacker coach, the O line coach

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Speaker 4: in training camp when they're installing something, Well, the Ravens

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Speaker 4: won't a lot of outside zone or you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, like get used to it, you know, Like

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Pops up throughout the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's uh should be uh should be fun.

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Speaker 4: Should be fun. And there are two big time organizations

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Speaker 4: that are always competitive and hopefully always will be.

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Speaker 3: You know, do the Ravens get more credit for that

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Speaker 3: than maybe to deserve more so than the Steelers, Like,

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Speaker 3: it's just always very honest, it's always assumed that the

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Speaker 3: Ravens had a good draft every year.

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Speaker 4: That was one of the two avenues. I was going

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Speaker 4: to go down with this because mel Kiper is from

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Speaker 4: Baltimore and loves the Ravens and he's been the biggest

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Speaker 4: name in draft community ever and I have utmost respect

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Speaker 4: for him. And frankly, if I were mel and I

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Speaker 4: was a Steeler guy, maybe I'd give them a A

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Speaker 4: minus instead of a B plus, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you're breaking down the draft on a

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Speaker 4: national level, he's the biggest name in draft history and

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Speaker 4: he's a rave and it will first to tell you that,

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean kids that grew up in Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: He brings it up on their draft profiles and stuff

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Speaker 4: all the time. Cool, you know, but I've been told

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Speaker 4: it's not really my bag, it's not really what I do.

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Speaker 4: But too many people have told me over the years

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Speaker 4: that that organization, I don't want to say manipulates the media,

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Speaker 4: but is more media aware than anyone in the league.

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Speaker 4: You know that they feed the media or I don't

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Speaker 4: even know how that.

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Speaker 3: Worked, little things like this, So I noticed, this is.

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Speaker 4: Where your bag than mine. But I've been told.

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Speaker 3: This on the front page of their release when they

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Speaker 3: used to do paper releases. I didn't even look at

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Speaker 3: their release this year, but they used to hand out

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Speaker 3: you know, they'd be press releases, the package that you

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Speaker 3: get each week from different teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Ravens were the only team that I

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Speaker 3: knew of that if they had a gajillion injuries, like

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen or whatever year it was,

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Speaker 3: they were all bagged it hard. Yeah, they put it

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Speaker 3: right on the front page. We're playing without all these guys,

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Speaker 3: this is how many man hours we've missed? This like

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Speaker 3: that would ever happen? He built excuses. No, it's the

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Speaker 3: exact opposite for Pittsburgh. Well, we're not going to use

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Speaker 3: that as an excuse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I'm I think they're a

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Speaker 4: great organization. You know, like thirty two organizations called me

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Speaker 4: up and said we want to employ you, Matt. They'd

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Speaker 4: be my top three or four choices. You know, there's

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Speaker 4: no question about it. But I have been told media savvy, media, paranoid, meredia, manipulative, whatever.

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Speaker 4: They're a little different than the other teams that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, anyways, whatever, just interesting. But let's get

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Speaker 3: to a break. That's going to do for our number

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Speaker 3: one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,

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Speaker 3: and now I'll be back with our number two right

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Speaker 3: after this.