1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: Good time to mention as we head into the Labor 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: Day weekend and as we get prepared to add the 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: awesome new affiliate nine ten Am in Detroit. Go subscribe 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: to the podcast Clay Travis buck Sexton Boom search it out. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: You'll be able to take us anywhere, and you can 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: also stream the show live anywhere in the world off 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. If you have not already downloaded the 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app, then you should do so. As many of 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: you are going to be on the road, be safe, 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: I believe Buck I was reading that right about now 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: on the East Coast is when the roads are going 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: to start to take off in terms of the peak 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: amount of travel on them. And it's going to be 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: this way basically throughout the entire weekend, particularly if you 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: are trying to drive somewhere on Friday, as many people 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: are headed to the beach, headed to the mountains, wherever 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: you may be going with your family up to and 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: through Monday, it's going to be very difficult to move around. 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Very expeditiously, So be safe. 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: And for all of you out there traveling with children, godspeed, 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: because I have been there a lot of you have 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: car fulls of kids. It's amazing how often they don't 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: have to go to the bathroom at all, and ten 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: minutes after you get on the road to begin a 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: long family trip, they immediately have to go to the bathroom. 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: That has been my experience. I don't know how kid 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: bladders work, but it is really remarkable how often you 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: can say, do you need to go to the bathroom? 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: They're great. 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Ten minutes after you get on the road, you've got 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: to immediately pull off somewhere for them to be able 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: to go. So be safe, have great trips. This is 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: this is phenomenal work. We were making fun of Keith 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Olberman yesterday because he's sixty four years old and he 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: decided to call out former University of Kentucky swimmer Riley 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: Gaines and said that she sucked at swimming because she 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: happened to end up tied in the NCAA Championship with 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: a six foot four dude pretending to be a chick. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: And Riley gains yesterday, Buck, this is as close to 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: a fatality as you can as you can get. 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Do you remember did you play Mortal Kombat when you 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: were a kid? Buck, I was phenomenal at most combat. 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I bet a lot of people around our age. If 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: you really won and. 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: You got not touched at all, you would be crowned 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: a flawless victory. For those of you out there who 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: remember the video game, flawless victory would be on the 51 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: screen when you beat your opponent and you were a 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: touched you had your full wife left. This that I 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: am playing for you from Riley Gaines is what I 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: would call a flawless victory, as she responds to Keith 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Olberman saying the reason she came in tied for fifth 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: in the overall in Cuba Championship was because she sucks 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: at swimming. 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: Listen all right, Keith, As I was getting my All 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: SEC First Team honors down to show you, I dropped 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: it and I broke it, which would be really unfortunate 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: if I didn't have more of those, but lucky for me, 62 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: I do. So let's go through an SEC title second 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: in the country. This is my SEC Community Service Leader 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: of the Year award, which actually got me a lot 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: of money. Oh, another SEC title, an innuble A trophy. O. Look, 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: SEC Scholar Athlete of the Year. Believe it or not, 67 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: I'm pretty smart. Another SEC title, another NBA TROPHYO, that's 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: when we won an SEC championship as a team. Some 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: more SEC honors. A look, another one. That's when I 70 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: broke the two hundred butterfly record, the SEC record, which 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: I still hold, making me one of the fastest Americans 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: of all time. And so, Keith, I wouldn't be really 73 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: sad if I broke this trying to prove a point 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: to an old man who can't even seem to keep 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: a job. But I've got more of these, so I'm. 76 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: Not fuck I mean this is so let me say 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: this too. The SEC reached out to me. Southeastern Conference, 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: not the Securities in Exchange Commission for those of you 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: may not. The trophy that she broke they are replacing. 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: So they're sending her a brand new version of her 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: trophy that that broke when she was showing this video, 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: which is great of the Southeastern Conference. Also, I have 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: and I know you would love this. I have challenged 84 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: Keith Olderman. I have invited Keith Oberman on this program. 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: I have invited him on any program out there, I 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: will debate, and I'm sure you would be happy to 87 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: as well. Buck Keith Oberman on men competing in women's 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: sports anytime, any place anyway. 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: So far, our buddy Keith has been very quiet. 90 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: He likes to chirp a lot, not responded to a 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: legitimate idea. Hey, you think that Riley sucks at swimming, 92 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: Let's have a debate about whether dude should be able 93 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: to compete in women's sports. 94 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: Let's actually have it out. 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: So first off, I'm a little disappointed because for a 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: second there, I thought you're gonna tell me that Elon 97 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: Zuckerberg style, you were challenging Keith to to a throwdown 98 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: in the steel cage, which I will say, if you 99 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: guys wanted to, you could raise millions of dollars for 100 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: charity in that one. I think I could beat Keith 101 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: Olberman's ass. You know, he's got a lot of weight 102 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: and height on me. Though I'm he's a he's big, 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: and he's probably a bier, but he uh, he would 104 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, I'm just saying, let's be honest, right, he 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: probably scratches for the eyes and bites, but I think 106 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: you would take him that all said, what's amazing about Olberman? 107 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: And for some of you who are sag, why are 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: we Well, it's a Friday before Labor Day, so if 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: we want to talk about. 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Keith and uh. 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: The the best in my view, really the best SNL 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: sketch ever about TV news was probably the Keith Oberin 113 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: send up by Ben Affleck. But he's advancing his brand 114 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 3: by taking this stand. I didn't want that to rhyme, 115 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 3: but it did. But that is true, meaning that even 116 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: saying something as preposterous as Riley Gaines is not a 117 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: good swimmer because she is now associated with conservatives and 118 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: the right, whether that's fair or not based on her politics, 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 3: She's just like, hey, let's not have dudes swim against 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: women and run against them and powerless against them. Keith, 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: his audience is happy to see him do this because 122 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: this is the price of being a good Democrat. Now 123 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: you have to be willing to humiliate yourself in order 124 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: to get the approval and the approbation of the left 125 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: on this issue, because ultimately, nobody can win the issue 126 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: of the transgender debate. If they're actually pressed on it, 127 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: they will lose. They will lose to a public that 128 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: is reasonable and rational at least, so Keith advances his 129 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: brand by being crazy, is what I'm saying, which is 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: why guys still has a brand. 131 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: I gotta say this too. This is an example of 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: an issue that I think rationality and reasonableness and sanity 133 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: in an insane world is winning. And I give a 134 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: lot of credit to Riley Gaines. I think a site 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: like OutKick that I run, we have a lot of 136 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: talented people who've how do you convince people who are 137 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: willing to listen to logic and reason? How do you 138 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: find them? This is an example of a issue that 139 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: has cut through, and you've seen the numbers coming up 140 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: now on our side in a big way as more 141 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: and more people look at this. 142 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: This is a. 143 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: Eighty twenty ninety ten style issue. So yes, there is 144 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: an element of the I'm Keith Olberman. I'm a far 145 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: left wing propagandist in good standing. But the ground that 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: is supporting this argument is diminishing in a hurry, and 147 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm actually curious. RFK Junior, to his credit, came out 148 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: and said this was crazy. No other Democrat has a 149 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: part of me thinks that there's going to be one 150 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: or two Democrats that suddenly come out and say this, 151 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: and many more are going to get in line behind them, 152 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: because what they're afraid of right now is being the 153 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: target of the trans community. But if there's many targets 154 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: they're cowards, they'll start to line up on what they 155 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: recognize to be the right side here. 156 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll tell you this, I don't think you 157 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: can be a Democrat in good standing with the apparatus 158 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: if you are pro life in any respect. Right, if 159 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: you're somebody who is pro life, and that's been the 160 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: case for a long time, but I also think that 161 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: you can extend that. There are a number of things, 162 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 3: but you can extend that to I don't think I 163 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: think you can be a Democrat in good standing. Now 164 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: there are people that will bring up and say, oh, 165 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: well there, you know. But if you're going to be 166 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: a Democrat who has the full weight of the Democrat 167 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: Party behind you, I think you have to buy into 168 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: the transgender sports thing. And really we segment it into sports, 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: but it's actually about it's about everything, yes, because the 170 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: fundamental I mean with regard to the transgender issue, because 171 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: the fundamental belief that you must have is not this 172 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 3: is an accommodation. And I always remind people of this 173 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: and they said, that's crazy, Buck, that's not and then 174 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: I go, no, no, this is actually like the religious 175 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: tenant of the left on this. The tenet of the 176 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: left is that a trans woman is a woman the 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: same as any other woman. There is no distinguishing characteristic 178 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: feature or difference that you are allowed to notice. It 179 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 3: is a woman like any other woman, and for all 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: intents and purposes, for sports, for gender, for government contracts, 181 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: for physical attract And that is insane. 182 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Yes it is. 183 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's such a foundational issue 184 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: to connect with. For instance, and I wrote about this 185 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: a lot in American Playbook, But I really think if 186 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: you are out there and you're frustrated because you feel 187 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: like you don't have a real connection. Maybe you're a 188 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: grandparent and you know it's Labor Day weekend, you're going 189 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: to have a cookout and you're going to be around 190 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: your grandkids and you're worried about their indoctrination. Maybe they're 191 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: off to college, maybe they're in high school. Maybe you're 192 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 2: going to be like I am today at a high 193 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: school football game, and you're just going to be around 194 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: younger people. I think this is an entry point for sanity. 195 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: I really do a topic that you can broach if 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: your kids or grandkids are sports fans but they are 197 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 2: left wing. I think this is the kind of issue 198 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: that you bring up that deep down to your point, Buck, 199 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: they can't even defend it. There's not some brilliant debater 200 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: who is out there that will dazzle your mind by 201 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: arguing this issue. It's very basic. It's a foundational belief 202 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: system that is untrue. It's a lie that you have 203 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: to believe in in order to be a leftist. And 204 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: if you can't expose it for the lie that it is, 205 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: it can be a red pill moment, that moment Buck, 206 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: where many people start to question what they have previously 207 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: accepted as truth. It is the gateway, as it were, 208 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: to sanity and starting to question a lot of the 209 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: ideological lies that are the foundation now of the left 210 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: in this country. 211 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: Well, if the think of it this way, if the 212 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: left can mandate, and let's speak clear, we said the 213 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: left Democrat party, same thing. If the Democrat Party can 214 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 3: mandate as a function of standing in the movement and 215 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: everything else, the most obvious lie, yes, that then brings 216 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: into question what else are they going to lie to 217 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: you about? 218 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 5: Right? 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: What else do they demand you bend the need to 220 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: in the name of an unreality? And I think that's 221 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: why this is so key for them. People say, well, 222 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 3: maybe they'll just back off this issue. To back off 223 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: the issue is to say that they were lying to 224 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: people as a party about the most fundamental and obvious 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: thing possible, which is that men have penises and women 226 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: have vaginas and they are different, and that is a 227 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: real thing. 228 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Biology is not real. 229 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: Is the cover charge that the Democrat Party demands for 230 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,239 Speaker 2: you to enter the club? Now you ever stood outside, 231 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: especially if you're a guy. You're not a good looking girl. 232 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: Girls get waved in a lot not having to pay. 233 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: The cover charge. 234 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: If you are a dude standing outside of the club 235 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: trying to get in in order to be a member 236 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: in good standing of the Democrat Party, right now, you 237 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: have to pay the cover charge, which is saying biology 238 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: is not real, and sports distill it to why it 239 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: is such an essential, why and why so many people 240 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: are rejecting it. 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I just want to note, because as you 265 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: could tell, I was pretty fired up in the first 266 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: hour over what's going on in New York City and 267 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: the different laws that migrants in New York City can 268 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: expect to be held to, including with things like health. 269 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it's one thing we're talking about tax status, 270 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: and that's enough of a problem. But if it comes 271 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: to the spreading of disease and the prevention of that 272 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: via a mandatory vaccination regime, you would think that everybody 273 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: could agree to be on the same page. Nonetheless, now 274 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: Democrats are going with because I think they are realizing 275 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: that the illegal immigration situation overall, and our wide open 276 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: southern border and the migrant they call it a crisis. 277 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: Keep that in mind, the illegal migrant crisis in cities 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: like New York and also Chicago and others is a 279 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: political liability. It is becoming a challenge for them with 280 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: the voters they need to try to fool to vote 281 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: for them in the Key States. Cree Jean Pierre Clay 282 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: wants everyone to know that Republicans have made immigration this 283 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: really political issue. 284 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Play seventeen. 285 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 6: Republicans have made this incredibly political issue. They have turned 286 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 6: this into political stunts that we have seen over and 287 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 6: over and over again. And so the President has asked 288 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 6: and has said, hey, let's do this in a bipartisan way. 289 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 6: Here's the funding that we would need to actually try 290 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: to fix what's going on and to work on what's 291 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 6: going on on the border. 292 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 5: And they refuse. 293 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 6: They want to make it. They meeting Republicans in Congress, 294 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 6: want to make it a political issue. 295 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: It's a political issue. Clay, is this supposed to be? Well, 296 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: what exactly? 297 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 7: I mean? 298 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: We all know that immigration is one of the most 299 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: important political issues in the country, but of course it's 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: a political issue. 301 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: This is my thing that we started off the show 302 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: talking about Buck Biden's failures on the border, Biden's failures 303 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: in foreign policy, Biden's failures on the economy, Biden's failures 304 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: on crime. I mean this, honestly, what can you point 305 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: to I mean, all of you out there listening to 306 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: us right now and say, you know what, I think 307 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: Biden's done a pretty good job here. But the only 308 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: thing I could even point to is keeping many of 309 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: Trump's policies on China in place. Remember how controversial Trump's 310 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: trade war with China was. To my knowledge, Biden has 311 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: virtually left everything that Trump did on China in place. 312 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: He hasn't adjusted anything, so he hasn't made things worse 313 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: because he's continued to enforce Trump policy there. 314 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: What's better this is this. This is the essence of 315 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: the race. 316 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: Right The race shouldn't be what happened to Trump with 317 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: his documents in South Florida. The race shouldn't be what 318 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: did Trump do with book keeping issues in New York City. 319 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: The essence of the race for everyone out there is 320 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: is your life better today than it was when Joe 321 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: Biden came into office. I can't imagine very many people 322 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: are saying yes, because by every objective measure, things are worse. 323 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: Things are worse under Joe Biden. And when you make 324 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: things worse, you don't deserve an opportunity to get reelected 325 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: and continue to stay in power. 326 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: That's the race. Are things better or worse for you 327 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: today than they were in the past? 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Clay Travis buck 343 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 2: Sexton Show appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 344 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: On the Friday. 345 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: As we roll into Labor Day weekend, we are joined 346 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: now by a man that I believe has been right 347 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: about more of the data on COVID than almost anyone 348 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: in the entire country. We have been having him on 349 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: for years on this program. Now he is Alex Berenson. 350 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: All right, Alex, appreciate you coming on with us. They 351 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: are now trying to roll out a new COVID shot. 352 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: I was reading and I bet you saw it too. 353 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: Doctor Marty McCarey, who's done fantastic work on so many 354 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: of these COVID related issues. 355 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: JOHNS Hopkins, physician. 356 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: He said, only twenty percent of people got the most 357 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: recent COVID shot, despite the fact that they tried to 358 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: force everybody to get it. Try to encourage everybody to 359 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: get it. What's the latest on the newest COVID shot? 360 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: And have you seen those numbers that even though all 361 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: the blue checks out there, the old school blue checks 362 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: have been arguing, oh my goodness, if you don't get this, 363 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: it's going to be a disaster. The fact that eighty 364 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: percent of Americans said, yeah, we're kind of done getting 365 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: COVID shots is a pretty incredible number given where we 366 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: were when the first version of this shot came out. 367 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 5: Yes, look right now, no one is getting any shots. 368 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 8: I mean, it will be interesting this fall to see 369 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 8: when the new shots come out, you know, if we 370 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 8: even approach what we what we got to last year, 371 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 8: which as you say, was fewer than twenty percent of 372 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 8: people and fewer than half of people over sixty five, 373 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 8: who are. 374 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 5: Really the only people who might have any even theoretical 375 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: benefit from the shots at this point. And frankly, I 376 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: think I think basically that, I mean, you would be 377 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 5: a fool, And you know, I'll get in trouble for 378 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 5: saying that. I'm gonna say it openly because I think 379 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: it's correct. I think even people at very high risk 380 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 5: from COVID, there's very very little evidence at this point 381 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 5: that they'll benefit from future boosters. You know, the the 382 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 5: the idea that the shots can reduce infection just does 383 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 5: not seem to be the case anymore. And so you know, 384 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 5: there's this question about whether or not they were you know, 385 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 5: we're sure to be your infection or if you're at 386 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: high risk. But it isn't clear that more boosters actually 387 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: help with that kind of immunity either. We don't really 388 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 5: have that evidence. We And by the way, one last, 389 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: you know, one last on this particular point, they're rolling 390 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 5: out boosters. They claim the boosters, you know, are sort 391 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: of have been modified so they will work better against 392 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 5: the current strain of COVID. There's not really good evidence 393 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 5: in that either. So we are really truly in the 394 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 5: public relations phase of this, and they're selling a product 395 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: that nobody wants, and I just don't know how many 396 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 5: people get it. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 397 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: by the end of the year, or the end of 398 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: the COVID season, you know, let's say into early twenty 399 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: twenty four, that fewer than ten million Americans have gotten this. 400 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 5: I mean that, which would just be a stunning rejection. 401 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: And obviously, and maybe we get to this in a sect, 402 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean the danger with that is now the Biden 403 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: administration has been pushing these COVID shots, which are to 404 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: a large extent worthless for most people. And they've been 405 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: doing it which is actually starting to increase the hesitancy 406 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: of other vaccines, which maybe we can get to in 407 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: a moment. 408 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: But let's go to kids. 409 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: I believe the study is out of Australia. I know 410 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there, kids, grandkids. It's one 411 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: thing to make a decision for yourself. For instance, my 412 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: parents over seventy five, they were saying they got the 413 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: two COVID shots, they got a booster. 414 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: They say they're done. 415 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: Now they're over seventy five I think there are a 416 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: lot of people who would make similar decisions as them 417 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: with their own health. But the idea of getting kids 418 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: COVID shots has been incredibly controversial for a long time, 419 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: and now we already knew that the benefit was minimal, 420 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: if there was any at all. And I think, Alex, 421 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: you're like me. You are not, you know, an anti vaxxer, 422 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: But you haven't I think, making the same decision as 423 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: I have. Your young kids have not gotten the COVID shot. 424 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm very glad that I did not get them COVID shot. 425 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: I think you, as a parent, have made the same choice. 426 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: What is the data now showing for people out there 427 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: that that may have gotten their kids the COVID shot. 428 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's lorisome because this paper came out 429 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 5: last week. It's a it's a small paper, let's be 430 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: clear about that. And it doesn't have what, you know, 431 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 5: what what what scientists or physicians would call clinical outcomes. 432 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: In other words, they didn't show that getting the shot, 433 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: you know, led to more infections or more severe infections 434 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 5: for for kids. It was too small a study for that. 435 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 5: But what it showed was here, here's here's the idea. 436 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: The idea is, sometimes when you're immunized against against uh 437 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: uh uh an illness, it may The idea is, in 438 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 5: some specific cases, it may actually lead to broader immunity 439 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: against other illnesses. It just sort of it will. It 440 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: will ramp up your immune system in a positive way 441 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: if you're a kid, so that so that you know, 442 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: you get immunized against one thing, but it actually helped 443 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 5: to against other things. And that's what these scientists were 444 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 5: clearly hoping to demonstrate in this study. So they took 445 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 5: blood from kids age five to eleven and who had 446 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 5: gotten the MR and A COVID huts, the fiser COVID shots, 447 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: and they looked and they said, hey, does this show 448 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 5: a stronger immune response against other bacterian viruses, not just 449 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 5: not just stars COVID two, not just covid. And to 450 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 5: their surprise, they found the opposite. They found that the 451 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 5: immune response seemed to be dampened in kids who had 452 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 5: gotten the COVID shots. Now, we don't know why it is, 453 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 5: and we don't know if that means that kids are 454 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: actually more vulnerable to other infections in the long term. 455 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 5: But they looked both a month and six months out 456 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 5: and they found that this persisted when they exposed the 457 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 5: blood of these kids to other viruses, so that all 458 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: by itself would make me say, I am never getting 459 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 5: my kids vaccine with this MR and a product against COVID, 460 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: and certainly if they've been vaccinated they I would never 461 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: have them boosted because we don't know what that means. 462 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 5: But it is clearly not the result they were hoping 463 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: to find. And one of the problems, one of the many, 464 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 5: many problems with where we are right now in this 465 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 5: is these papers come out and they have troubling findings. 466 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: They're not again, they're not necessarily proving that the vaccine 467 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 5: is going to, you know, make kids more vulnerable, but 468 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 5: it shows something that needs to be followed up on, 469 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: and instead of following up the scientists, you know, this 470 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 5: was an Australian paper, scientists in the US just ignore 471 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: and do not do more research. So you sort of 472 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: have these like these troubling findings that we don't follow 473 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 5: up on, and the picture they pat overall is these 474 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 5: vaccines are useless for kids and possibly problematic, and we 475 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 5: didn't you know, one word we haven't even mentioned today 476 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: is is is myochroditis R. So we know that's a 477 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: side effect. That's a side effect that certainly was not expected, 478 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: that didn't come up in the big clinical trials, and 479 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: yet is clearly a real side effect, especially for young 480 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 5: adults and for teenagers, and especially for teenage boys. And again, 481 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: you know, most of the research that's been done on 482 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: it hasn't come out of the United States. And I 483 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 5: find that really problematic. 484 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: Is what does this say for you as we look 485 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: forward into what is now? I guess I can't even 486 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: keep track. This is the third winter, right? Or is 487 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: it the fourth winter? I can't even keep track of 488 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: COVID right? Twenty twenty one, twenty This is the fourth winter, 489 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: I guess of COVID. 490 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 5: Right, the fourth winter yet? 491 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth winter of COVID. Is there anything alarming out 492 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: there or to you now? Is COVID now sort. 493 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: Of intermingled with all the other typical cold and flu 494 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: viruses that you and me and everybody out there listening 495 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: to us has spent a lifetime dealing with during the 496 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: fall and winter seasons. 497 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'd said the last. I'd say, you know, 498 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 5: and I suppose it is still theoretically possible that some 499 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 5: terrible variants will come out and you know, and lead 500 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: me to you know, to change that. But no, at 501 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: this point, it looks like COVID. You know, COVID adapted 502 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 5: to us exactly as people predicted it would very early on, 503 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 5: which is it became very transmissible and it became less dangerous. 504 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 5: So I mean, I wouldn't just say averageable. I'd say 505 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 5: almost anybody who isn't at death door. There's very little 506 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: evidence that COVID is dangerous to them in a significant way. 507 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 5: And you know, they're saying fifteen thousand hospitalizations last week. 508 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 5: I don't think we know how many of those were 509 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: with COVID or from COVID. And as people pointed out, 510 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: like we don't sample for flu during summer, we don't 511 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 5: really try to count these things the way we started 512 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: counting COVID and continue to count COVID. So this idea 513 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 5: that COVID is is unique. We're counting it in a 514 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: unique way. Everything from the case is to hostitizations to 515 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: death and so the numbers aren't really comparable. And right now, 516 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 5: and this is a good thing, there doesn't seem to 517 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 5: be any excess mortality in the United States or in Europe. 518 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 5: There was last winter, and I do worry that that 519 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: had something to do with the booster campaign last winter, 520 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 5: but fortunately mortality has returned to normal. And I mean, 521 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: I think, I think the biggest threat right now is 522 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 5: that you know, they're going to try to maybe close 523 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 5: schools again. They're going to try to get people to 524 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 5: mask again. They're going to scare people in unnecessary ways, 525 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 5: and I do worry. I mean, we'll see if significant 526 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: number of people take the booster and there is another 527 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 5: rhyme in excess mortality this winter. I think that's going 528 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 5: to be very hard to explain. I hope that doesn't happen. 529 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: I hope for a lot of people don't take it, 530 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: and I certainly hope we don't see a rise in 531 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 5: excess mortality. But that would be my concern actually that 532 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: the m R and A is another round will have 533 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: negative effects. 534 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: We're talking to Alex Bearentson. 535 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: Last question for you, Alex, and and by the way, 536 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: give out your substacks so people can go read this 537 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: for yourself, as I would encourage everybody who is listening 538 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: to us right now who wants more information. You mentioned 539 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: that idea of schools potentially shutting down UH and or 540 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: MASK mandates coming back can you mention? Can you discuss that? 541 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: But also you got three kids, I've got three kids. 542 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: What about overall vaccine hesitancy that seems to be growing 543 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: now because of so many parents and I think grandparents 544 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: and guardians who are phil burned by the lies that 545 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: they were told about the COVID shot and now are 546 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: wondering whether they should get other shots. I think that's 547 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: one of the lingering impacts here. 548 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: I think you're right. I mean, one of the ironies 549 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 5: here is that you know that sort of the vaccine 550 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 5: the pro vaccine team, you know, the public health team, 551 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: and like you, my kids are all vaccinated with the 552 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 5: standard vaccines on the standard schedule. I'm not you know, 553 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: I'm not an anti vaccine right, but this idea that 554 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 5: there was widespread vaccine has been seen outside, ironically of 555 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 5: a few sort of you know, very liberal jurisdictions in 556 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: the US before twenty twenty is not true. Vaccine rates 557 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: were very high and not showing much sign of going 558 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: down now. As you say, people have you know, who 559 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: got the COVID vaccine and had bad side effects themselves, 560 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: or who saw it didn't really protect them against COVID, 561 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 5: or whose kids got it and you know, they might 562 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 5: have heard of a child who had myocarditis following it, 563 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 5: or they might have they might you know, their kids 564 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 5: had a negative side effect. They aren't going to wonder 565 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: about other vaccines. And one of the things that I 566 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 5: emphasized over and over again is that these m RNs 567 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 5: are not like other vaccines. They're really different. But but 568 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 5: the public health community lied about that for three years. 569 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 5: They basically they tried to say, Hey, this is just 570 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: another vaccine. You should just go get it because we're 571 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 5: telling you to. And it is no surprise that there's 572 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 5: increasing questions in a lot of parents' minds about other vaccines. 573 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 5: I don't think we've seen a huge drop off. We've 574 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: seen some drop off in standard vaccination rates, and that 575 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: is entirely the fault of the public health community from 576 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: not telling the truth about this. 577 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: Alex appreciate you being with us as always. 578 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: It's a pleasure and let me get out it's the 579 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: subject is Unreported Truths, and you can also follow me 580 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 5: on Twitter and it's always a pleasure to talk to 581 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: you guys. 582 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Unreported truth It's an excellent substack, highly 583 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: recommended to you. 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Yes, I believe you can still get an 621 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: autograph copy if you sign up for the Clay and 622 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: Buck VIP and so there you go. 623 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: Be a lot of fun, all right. 624 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: Bill in Texas has some thoughts on the Democrats. WHOA, Hey, Bill, 625 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: what's going on? 626 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I think? Bill? 627 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 6: Is that? 628 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 5: Is it? 629 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: Bill? 630 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 7: There you have? 631 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 5: I'm about here. 632 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 7: My name is Bell. 633 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: Though, well, I'm gonna yell at my call screeners later, 634 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: what's up, dell? 635 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 7: Well, when I was wanting to let's not ask about 636 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 7: the Democrats have been wanting to run the country and 637 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 7: do all this stuff. But I've never seen anything where 638 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 7: anybody ever asked him, what do you want the country 639 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 7: to look like? 640 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 5: If you got everything you wanted? 641 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: That's a fair quest. Thank you for calling in there. 642 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: I see the background. There are you crushing cars? Like, 643 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: what is the background noise? 644 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 5: Oh? 645 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 7: My grandson had this ball the iPad? 646 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: All right, all right, that actually makes total sense. Grandson 647 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: on the I was like, what does he do? When 648 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: he first came on? I was like, is he on 649 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: a ranch? Is he in some sort of turbine? All right, 650 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: grandson on the iPad? That's that's certainly understandable. It's a 651 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: good question, Buck, and I think oftentimes the simplest answer 652 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 2: is they want the power to be able to tell 653 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 2: you everything that you have to do, right, I mean, 654 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: if you really get to the essence, I think it's 655 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 2: about power. Why Joe Biden the president of the United States, 656 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: and why would they recklessly be willing to put him 657 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: up to run again in twenty twenty four because of 658 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: the power of the presidency. Sometimes the answer is just simple. 659 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 2: They want the power to dictate your life choices. 660 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: Yes, they What do democrats want for the country? They 661 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: want something that much more approximates a authoritarian socialist state. 662 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: They want something where you effectively live by the whim 663 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: of the state, where the collective determines everything and anything 664 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: for you, where you don't actually have individual rights, where 665 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: you don't actually have the right to say anything to 666 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: the state when it is violating those rights. If you do, 667 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: you are a problem and you will be dealt with. 668 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 3: Not a good place Democrats running the country. I mean, here, 669 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: here's a way to look at this. If Democrats had 670 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: a super majority in the Senate, and they had a 671 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 3: big majority of the House, and they had a Democrat president, 672 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: and they do whatever they wanted. Take a look at 673 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: San Francisco, take a look at what San Francisco has become, 674 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: a beautiful city, by the way, and that would be 675 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 3: the country. And that's the ultimate ends. It would take 676 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 3: some time, but that's where they would take the country 677 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: if they got their way. 678 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: Portland, Seattle, Washington, d C. Which has a record high 679 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 2: number of murders Atlanta, Philadelphia, Chicago. There are a lot 680 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: of cities that have virtually no Republican opposition against left 681 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: leaning rule, and all of them are abject failures. We 682 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: come back, final hour of the week, eight hundred and 683 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: two two eight eight two. 684 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: You can weigh in. We'll have some fun headed into 685 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend.