WEBVTT - Fastest Sedans Under $50K

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Fast Track, a production of I Heart Radios,

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hello, and welcome to the Fast Track.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, and today I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest in the studio. It's my producer Kurt. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always in the studio, but usually I'm sitting across there,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting to be on this side of the table.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. I have found that, as you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, I've had a little trouble like just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of carry on this monologue, and it's much better

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to talk to somebody and have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of bounce things off of. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Kurt is somebody that I can talk to and

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<v Speaker 1>and we can really get some information out in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better way, you know, Like back when I had

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast partner, it seems like it was a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully with Kurt here across the table from me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to do that a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>effectively and have a much better show for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully it's a little bit more entertaining. And uh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, in the last few years, I've been more

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<v Speaker 1>and more of a fan of the Sedan, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think that I would be early days. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of times in life when you have

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<v Speaker 1>different choices with with automobiles, and when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the coups. I like to like buy

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<v Speaker 1>the sports cars. I guess maybe like the the Honda

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<v Speaker 1>Civic S I that kind of thing or But I

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<v Speaker 1>also I had a Toyota SELT like a GT that

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<v Speaker 1>was a two door coup as well, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun to drive for a while. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did eventually kind of come around the idea that I

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<v Speaker 1>needed a Sedan, and that was when I had a

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<v Speaker 1>kid for the first time. But actually, of all things,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an Audi A four and I really really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that car. It was a ton of fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>held it for a long time, and uh it eventually

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<v Speaker 1>required many many repairs in one year, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the downfall the whole thing. But as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Sedan's went, that was a fantastic way for me

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of put both my feet in the water

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<v Speaker 1>and get excited about Sedan's because it was a great car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fantastic to drive. It was as an all

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<v Speaker 1>wheel drive car, it was a manual transmission, five speed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a long time with was about nine I

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<v Speaker 1>think is when I got it, and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. I think I got around two thousand one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a couple of years old. And I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it. I drove it for many, many years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went right from that into another coupe and then I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of a hot hatchbag. I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a Civic s I Civic hatch back. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>it was a basic, the basic, but I loved it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they're fun to drive, aren't they. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a blast and the real easy. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. It's a lot of fun. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up driving my Civic Asike for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time and I got rid of that and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a Volkswagen C seat. Now, the funny thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>is that I didn't think that I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get another sit in for a long time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an adult child, she's she's almost eighteen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go into college and everything. But I've had

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<v Speaker 1>this for a little while now, so I did need

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<v Speaker 1>a back seat. I needed some extra space for people

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to be able to carry some friends around

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever and just have the room for carrying some

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<v Speaker 1>things on the weekends, that kind of thing. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's today and seemed to be the way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have a whole lot of money to

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<v Speaker 1>buy like a performance today, and I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money for like a luxury sdan or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And I'll tell you my my it's again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Volkswagon CC. It's a two twelve, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in between, and it's a It's a funny thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've thought about this many many times while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>driving it. It's not quite luxury, it's not quite sport.

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<v Speaker 1>CC oddly enough stands for Comfort Coup, which is weird

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a four door car. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>they called it comfort Coup. But CC sedan is fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it. The only problem that I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had with this whole thing is that the car just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to want to drive in hot weather. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's the problem, you Like, we live in Atlanta, and yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>this is early September in Atlanta. The temperature gauge on

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<v Speaker 1>my car on the way home yesterday read one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and one degrees um, so it's humid hot. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>hurricanes nearby. I don't know what the deal is with

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. The fuel pump overheats, it shuts down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a it's a disaster in that way. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a good time driving this car, and

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<v Speaker 1>it it's something that I didn't think that I would

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<v Speaker 1>ever really enjoy driving, Like I didn't think I would

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy driving a sedan, but I do. There are

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<v Speaker 1>many choices out there, and later today in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about some of the most powerful sedans

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<v Speaker 1>under fifty thou dollars. Now, I know there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of qualifiers in there, and we're going to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I chose to pick for today's list the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful sedans under fifty thou dollars. And there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>I chose that price point, and we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>in just a bit. But there's a there's a few

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<v Speaker 1>news things that I want to get to. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things that happened over the weekend, and actually

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start off with news is not good news.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing that I want to talk about is

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<v Speaker 1>the uh, the death of Jesse Colmbs. She was attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to land speed record. I think it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>desert somewhere, right, wasn't it. It It was out west, Think

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<v Speaker 1>it was in Alvoord, Desert, Oregon. Yeah, yeah, exactly. She

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<v Speaker 1>was out far, far out west somewhere. She was attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to reach something like like six hundred and nineteen miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour in like a rocket powered car. She was

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<v Speaker 1>already the fastest woman on four wheels already. Um. She

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<v Speaker 1>was the host for a short time for MythBusters Overhauling

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<v Speaker 1>UM Extreme four by four. There was a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>television shows and if you look up a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Colmbs, you would probably recognize her almost immediately. I

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<v Speaker 1>would think. I mean a lot of people that are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the show or you know, kind of fans

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<v Speaker 1>of that type of thing, and they already know who

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<v Speaker 1>she is. Tragic death. Of course, she was about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>nine years old, or she was thirty nine years old

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<v Speaker 1>when this happened. And again that pursuit of speed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just did a It's very timely, I guess, because

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about the thrust SSC supersonic car

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<v Speaker 1>and the ultimate record that it had, which was what

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<v Speaker 1>like seven sixty three or something like that. It's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, it is an insane speed. It was

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<v Speaker 1>above the sound barrier. Yeah, we were just talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was another death this weekend, um and

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know I had talked about on tech stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked with Jonathan Strickland on tech stuff about Formula

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<v Speaker 1>two and there's a guy named Antoine hugh Bert and

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<v Speaker 1>he was only twenty two years old. He's a Formula

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<v Speaker 1>two driver. He's a French driver. Also passed away on

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, and it's relatively unheard of. It doesn't it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen allay that often because there's so many safety

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<v Speaker 1>features in place in Formula one, Formula to Formula all

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<v Speaker 1>of the racing series, actually the f I a series

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<v Speaker 1>where they are involved in an accident that generally the

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<v Speaker 1>driver is very well protected. This in this case, the

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<v Speaker 1>car was actually severed in two and it was extremely

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<v Speaker 1>high speed crash. And uh. And we'll talk about Formula two,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in the future. And the third bit of news,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a little bit of a happier news so

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's kind of cheer up a little bit. This

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<v Speaker 1>is really cool. This is this happened only a few

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. And I don't know if you even know

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but the Bugatti and I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>this name right this time, Sharon achieved the fastest production

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<v Speaker 1>car speed record ever and get this, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>four miles per hour. Three three hundred four points seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven miles per hour. So they've they've kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>bridge this mythical. And I'll say mythical, it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>mythical because people have been doing it on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the Salt Last for a long long time. But as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like just on a on a road crossing

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<v Speaker 1>the three per hour barrier is incredible. It's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's an unbelievable feat really, and manufacturer has been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do this for a long long time. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course Kona seg there's gonna be many many other

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers that are going to attempt to break this. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Hannessy is gonna try to break it, and and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know, somebody will break this record. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's the strange thing. I'm gonna tell you a few

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<v Speaker 1>interesting little facts about this the speed record, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind, if you can just like of a few

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<v Speaker 1>things without without without like, now, is this considered a

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<v Speaker 1>production car? I'm glad you said that. I'm actually really

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<v Speaker 1>glad you said that, because that's one big part of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is that they claim it's a production car,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like an early product version of a specialty

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<v Speaker 1>car that they're producing, like of course Bugatti. Is they

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<v Speaker 1>produced like these? Um I almost want to say it's

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<v Speaker 1>like boutique sports cars really because they only produce a

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<v Speaker 1>certain amount and there, you know, value to three million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars something like that. It's very very expensive car. And

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<v Speaker 1>this particular car is like an early production version that

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<v Speaker 1>has several modifications. And I have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>problem with this, as do a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>I've read about in some of the forums. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the Sharon that they tested just a few

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. Again, it was like it was stretched one foot,

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole frame of stretched one foot, so the

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<v Speaker 1>body work is all stretched out. It's like a um,

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<v Speaker 1>consider it like a long tail version of the Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was lowered. They also drilled some holes

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<v Speaker 1>in the panels, I guess, like the front faces so

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, like the the air flow is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better through it because here, okay, well we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting into some of the interesting parts of this, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just start here. When a typical jet aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>takes off, like if you're on you know you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami. Let's you're on to Miami, you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>jet aircraft, delta of whatever you get in the airplane

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and fifty miles per hour. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>the airplane takes off. That's when it can achieve flight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people drive a hundred fifty miles an hour, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Cars can do that, right. The problem is about that

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<v Speaker 1>speed of course, that's where lift happens. You're able to

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to take off. And the problem with a

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<v Speaker 1>car like this is that that car might take off,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a true thing like it might take off.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen that in racing many many times on racetracks

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<v Speaker 1>where cars are you know, going over just a slight bump,

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<v Speaker 1>a slight increase in in altitude, and the air the

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<v Speaker 1>car just air comes underneath the vehicle. List it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Car flips in the air and it might end up

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods somewhere or something like that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. The problem with this car is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going twice that speed. You're going twice the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of a typical aircraft when it takes off. And the

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<v Speaker 1>way they did this was I guess they I should

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<v Speaker 1>tell you where they did this, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>called the air Lesson Track in Germany, and it's Volkswagen's

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<v Speaker 1>high speed test track and it's the one that has

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, high speed banks on both the entry

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<v Speaker 1>and the exit to this track as well, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can be able to go into it fast and come

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<v Speaker 1>out of it fast. But in the middle there's this

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<v Speaker 1>incredible I think it's five point four miles long that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a straight track and you can actually see the

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<v Speaker 1>curvature of the earth in this track. It's that long.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like that long, that's straight. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>fot of that in the past. Yeah, you probably have,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm um. Top Gear infamously did a top speed

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<v Speaker 1>record run with the Bugatti Veron that was what two

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<v Speaker 1>d and sixty eight miles per hour. Okay, So now

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<v Speaker 1>so now they've topped that by what thirty seven miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour or something like that. They've gone, They've gone

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<v Speaker 1>faster than than ever before and the same track. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the advantages that the Bugatti and

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<v Speaker 1>Volkswagan have over the other manufacturers, and that they can

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<v Speaker 1>test on this track and do this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the car to perform on this particular landscape. Exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not They're not allowing Gona Saga or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>m Hennessey or anybody to come on and test their

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<v Speaker 1>car on that type of track. And the problem that

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<v Speaker 1>I've read about, gosh, I'm going all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm a disaster today. But um, they are exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm jazzed about this. You could tell I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited about this. So, like the thing is like the

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<v Speaker 1>car is able to go that fast because of the

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<v Speaker 1>facility that they have and they're allowed to do this

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing. Any manufacturer that is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>this type of thing has to rent a facility. It

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like there's not gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for the other manufacturers to do it unless they

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<v Speaker 1>block off a certain amount of road in maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>of the western states, like I think Kona Saga has

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<v Speaker 1>done this in the past, where they achieve like two

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<v Speaker 1>seventy plus on some desolate stretch of highway out in

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<v Speaker 1>the desert. You know, they they sealed it off. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is, and I guess we'll maybe the same

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<v Speaker 1>with the the aer a lesson track, is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you get a deer that runs across at

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<v Speaker 1>that type of speed, or you get a dog that

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<v Speaker 1>runs onto the track, or I mean, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>pit or a cow or whatever you know, wanders out

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<v Speaker 1>onto the road, you're in trouble. I mean, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>about it. For like a stone or something exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>or you have to have a controlled environment exactly and

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<v Speaker 1>an air lesson is generally a controlled environment. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you a couple of things about this and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll move on, I promise. But um Bugatti is saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, now that we've broken three d and

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<v Speaker 1>four miles per hour or three and almost three and

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<v Speaker 1>or five, we're done. The crazy thing about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that these types of speeds, air lesson is only smooth

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<v Speaker 1>enough to run in one direction, to run miles. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at that track. It's a beautiful track.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it looks like the perfect piece of asphalt.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's incredible, like well groomed, well maintained everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently at that type of speed, there's just no

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<v Speaker 1>way that you were able to run that type of

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<v Speaker 1>speed coming back the other direction. Now I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that has anything to do with like the air speed

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, the direction or anything like that, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they said that it's just not to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And there are certain governing bodies that say that,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the way you did a world record for full

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<v Speaker 1>speed run, and it's typically two runs. It's one in

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<v Speaker 1>each direction, you know. And I think we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this with the thrust S sc is that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to run one direction, turn around, and come back the

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<v Speaker 1>other direction in less than an hour, and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>average of those two speeds. Crazy enough, but they said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we've We've broken three four. We're fine

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<v Speaker 1>with that. We're happy. They will always be in the

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<v Speaker 1>record book as the first one to break that record.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, I'm getting to what I wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess about this car, you know, we said that

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<v Speaker 1>it was modified that it was, you know, strength, It

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<v Speaker 1>was lengthened rather about a foot, so it has this

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<v Speaker 1>elongated body look. It has kind of like a um

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<v Speaker 1>a long tail look to it. Um It has a

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<v Speaker 1>lower suspension. It has holes drilled in the offenders in

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<v Speaker 1>order to increase air flow so that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>lift is reduced in some way. When the driver, I

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<v Speaker 1>think his name is Andy Wallace. I'm I'm stretching my

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<v Speaker 1>memory here, and Andy Wallace incrementally took the car up

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<v Speaker 1>fifty I think it was fifty kilometers per hour on

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<v Speaker 1>several several runs in order to like determine whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not the car was balanced correctly, if it was able

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain the downward force that it needed. So it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like feeling like it was going to lift, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as you start getting faster and faster and faster,

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't know how the car is gonna handle,

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to react. But it took many, many

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<v Speaker 1>runs to get there. It wasn't something that was done easily. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the most interesting facts about this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll leave it at this, the tires in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about tires on the thrust SSC and how

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<v Speaker 1>like they can't really have rubber tires. Uh, this car

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<v Speaker 1>does have rubber tires obviously, and it's on a tarmac.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to have rubber tires. And in order to have

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<v Speaker 1>tires that can handle that type of g force, that

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<v Speaker 1>type of heat and just the rotational speed be able

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<v Speaker 1>to handle that without breaking apart, they made these tires

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<v Speaker 1>especially for this car. And shoot, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>the manufacturer in front of me now right now I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was they were made by somebody that created

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<v Speaker 1>these tires specifically for this one run. And the weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this is, now imagine this. These these tires

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<v Speaker 1>cost thirty thousand dollars per set, thirty thousand per set

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<v Speaker 1>before they replied to the car, just in order to

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<v Speaker 1>check the integrity of them, in order to check to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that, you know, the manufacturing process was correct

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<v Speaker 1>for for them, they X rayed the tires before they

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<v Speaker 1>put them on the car to make sure that like

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<v Speaker 1>everything was exactly what. There were zero defects in those

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<v Speaker 1>tires before they put them on the car. Now, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine the attention to detail that, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>when they're making holes in the car. They probably didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just drill them anywhere. They you know, it's like they,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it was a very well thought out plan. No, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got yeah, you've got you've got You've got Bugatti

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<v Speaker 1>engineers saying all right, here, we've got this this car,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sharon Car, right, and and it's capable of zero

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty and I don't know two seconds or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, two points six seconds something like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>already this incredible world beating supercar. It's you know, made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with a lot of carbon fiber. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's an incredible vehicle. It's already three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make one that's even better. Let's make one that's

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<v Speaker 1>even the tops that and how are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that? So it lets you know that the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the engineers, the people that are putting this thing

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<v Speaker 1>together are that that's the mindset of them that if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to like just push the envelope, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to go faster, they want to go farther. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what really is is interesting about this is that like

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<v Speaker 1>they are really really pushing the boundaries of this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I love what they're doing with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just really fascinating. Um. But but to go

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<v Speaker 1>as far as like once you start reading about things

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<v Speaker 1>like where they're X raying the tires before they put

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<v Speaker 1>them on, that type of thing, to me is just

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately fascinating. It's it's it's amazing, and I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know. Um, you know, who even dreams up this

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing, you like, who says you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? I never, personally, I would never even

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<v Speaker 1>think of that. I would think, like, we get the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thou dollar set of tires, great, let's put them

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<v Speaker 1>on the car the best. They must be the best.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I know that they manufactured them perfectly, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know someone was saying, now, you know what, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to check them. And that's going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>sad news you spoke about at the beginning of this segment.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see the numbers and you see you read

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<v Speaker 1>the article and you look at the car, you forget

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<v Speaker 1>about the inherent danger in this pursuit. These people that

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<v Speaker 1>do this are in constant danger while they're doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tires are that that's what hits the road,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it all begins. Absolutely, I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>that's in their mind too, you know, just thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>mitigating disaster of course, human being, that's uh that's doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I'm sure that when they were when they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing all this, they're thinking like, Okay, how are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna keep Andy Wallace alive? Because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want we don't want Andy Wallace to die as

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing this, as he's creating this record. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the worst news ever. Like, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>that's the worst pr evert when I get that, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just you know about pr it's it's about

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<v Speaker 1>the person, you know, they want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the person is safe. Of course. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the people have a genuine appreciation for the people

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<v Speaker 1>that that put their lives at stake in order to

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<v Speaker 1>do this kind of thing and to push the limit

0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and to kind of it makes everybody, Uh, it makes everything,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a little bit better. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've we've kind of gone off track.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was so much news happening this weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like we needed to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We should probably get into our list, which is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the most powerful sedans under fifty dollars, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that very soon right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back and you're listening to the fast Track,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, and today I'm joined

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<v Speaker 1>by my special guest, Kurt, who is my producer really,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've decided to step behind the mic with me

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<v Speaker 1>today in order to kind of ease things along a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit have a conversation, because I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>much better way to talk about these things. And we

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<v Speaker 1>both have a little bit of experience with sedans, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm probably more interested in sedans than

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<v Speaker 1>you are. I have a guest. I think you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a sdan right now? Right? Okay, what do have? Uha,

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<v Speaker 1>Toyota Corolla. What's your general impress And be brutally honest

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<v Speaker 1>here with me. You're you're you've got a Toyota Corolla. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you like about it? What do you not

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<v Speaker 1>like about it? You don't have to go in two

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<v Speaker 1>in depth because I've got things about my car that

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<v Speaker 1>I like and I don't like and real simple, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So reliability, it's it's pretty spacious inside. Yeah, Um, that said.

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<v Speaker 1>The design is kind of standard, kind of a plane

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<v Speaker 1>Jane type type design, and it's it's a mode of transportation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing more. It's an a tow b car and reliable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, uh, you know what I've heard. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt many times, it's called the bread and butter wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like just the reliable car that you can count

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<v Speaker 1>on every day to start, get yourself to work, get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to school, get yourself wherever you have to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and then get home safely. And uh and really no frills,

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<v Speaker 1>not not a lot of frills. There are some cars

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<v Speaker 1>that there's some sedans that do have some frills. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about those two. Because there's some expensive sedans that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about. I'll tell you what I think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we like about saddans because I made a

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<v Speaker 1>short list here and we're gonna get to our our

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<v Speaker 1>list of the fastest sedans under fifty dollars in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, I promise you. And I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spend a whole lot of time on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of details about these cars, just kind of a general

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<v Speaker 1>quick thing because there's so many different ways you can

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<v Speaker 1>break down the sedan lists. What I think we like

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<v Speaker 1>about sedans in general, why people like them is because, uh, first,

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe and not in any order really here, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's economy. They I think they're they're much more fuel

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<v Speaker 1>efficient than maybe a big suv or truck or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. They're a little bit sleeker, they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a little more aerodynamic, a little more fuel efficient. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take a long trip in them. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're fairly comfortable that type of thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>comfort is another thing you know that people tend to

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate about about sedans, and I appreciate that about mine,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's definitely a comfortable drive. I really like

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 1>taking long, long trips in my Volkswagen, and uh it's

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>just simple transportation that gets decent mileage, and I really

0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>like that a lot. Performance. We're gonna talk about some

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.400
<v Speaker 1>performance today, off course, but uh, I don't know that's

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a thing. Some people buy performance sedans.

0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Some people buy just sedans that are just like like yours,

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that are more like um, just a two B type cars,

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and mine is kind of in between. It's not really

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>one or the other. It's not even a luxury sedan.

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like it's I don't know, sub luxury,

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you don't call it. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of features that I think are really cool,

0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 1>but it could have many, many more if it was

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:28.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe a Jaguar or something like that. UM security is

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>another thing, of course that people like because you're able

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to lock your valuables into a trunk, which a lot

0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of cars don't have trunks. If you look at a

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>hatchback doesn't have a trunk. A lot of sports cars

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 1>are are fastback designs or you know, um hatchbacks, or

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe they don't even have a trunk, so you have

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>your valuables right at the open. So a lot of

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>people like the security of having a trunk to be

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>able to lock things up in h Safety is another thing,

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I want to point this out because a

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of people have kind of moved over to SUVs

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and that's what their thing is, like, that's their wheelhouse

0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>right now. But I would say that there's a lot

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 1>less rollover possibility with a sedan because it's the lower

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>center gravity. It's a little bit more dependable if you're

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to and I say dependable I guess maybe a

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit more flexible as far as like maneuverability, you know,

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 1>being able to make a left right turn real quick

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.199
<v Speaker 1>on the highway if you have to, or if a

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>tire blows out, or you know, whatever happens to be

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the case. It's a little bit more stable than an

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.159
<v Speaker 1>SUV might be because it's a lot lower to the ground.

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that comes with some obstacles for a lot

0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of people, you know, just not being able to see

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>as well or whatever. But I would say that safety

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is one of the factors. And of course these are

0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 1>loaded with safety features. I mean all the mandated stuff,

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, the A B S and the stability control

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and all that. But but they're loaded with the lane

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>detection software where you know, like if you go into

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the other lane, like it kind of brings you back

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>or it u it vibrates a little bit. The steering

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>wheels assist type thing. Oh, exactly right. There's a lot

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of that going on, and there's so great. It's surprisingly agile. Um.

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of practicality to them. I mean, you

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>could have five passengers in these things. Um. Of course,

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>with worridors allow people to get in and out very quickly.

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:04.439
<v Speaker 1>If you have kids, it's very helpful, you know, to

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to get people in and out, or a dog,

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:07.959
<v Speaker 1>or you know, whatever the case happens to be. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that in general, Sedan's have made a lot

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of improvements over the last maybe thirty years. They've made

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>some incredible leaps and bounds and uh and a couple

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of them that I think we should talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I picked fifty thousand, and I think

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned this in the past, is that the Kelly

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.439
<v Speaker 1>blue Book price for an average automobile is around thirty

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, two d and eighty five dollars, which to

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>me sounds ridiculously high. I'm I'm a used car guy.

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I buy cars that are at the most at the

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 1>at the youngest two years old, that have been like

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe like least returns. They've got about thirty thousand miles

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>on them. It's I find that's kind of like the

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>sweet spot. The price thirty eight five for brand new car.

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get it, and it grows every year

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<v Speaker 1>by about three maybe four percent, And this is indeed

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<v Speaker 1>up about three point one percent up from about so

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely growing and growing We're gonna get to forty

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>average US car price very soon. It won't take very long.

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, I picked the fifty dollar mark because it's

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>just a it's a good price point, because there are

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cars out there that are loaded with practicality,

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 1>with performance. It seems like there's more expensive stands out there.

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>They're less expensive stands out there. This is kind of

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like the middle of the road. This is where if

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to buy a car for the average price,

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>this is about where you want to be. And and

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<v Speaker 1>the first car on our list here is the Subaru

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>w r X S T. I just just on a

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>gut feeling, like, what do you think about the Subaru

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>w r X S T I, because I've got my

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>own feeling about them. What I see, what I think

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>about them when I see them on the road. Subaru

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>seem to take a lot of different aspects into account

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>creating their cars. But this particular one reminds me of

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>the rally cars of the nineties early two thousand's absolutely

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. Absolutely, And you know what the

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>funny thing is, like the design has changed so much

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>now it's a lot different vehicle. But I know exactly

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.639
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. It's that blue car with the

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>gold the gold trim, and they sound very much the same.

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>They still sound like, you know, that that incredible Boxer

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>engine that they have. This one happens to have a

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>two point five leader turbo four cylinder engine that delivers

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>around three hundred and five horsepower and about two pound

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>feet of torque. But I'll tell you, like, on the road,

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>this car, it's stunning. It's a very beautiful car. It's

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>really cool. It still has enough I guess, I guess

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>outward design aspects that make it look really interesting. It's

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 1>not very plain. It's it's got a lot of like

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>little there's a little events here and there. There's still

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>a wing on the car. There's still some side skirts

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. It's it's got enough design elements

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>that make it look intriguing to me. And the price

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>point on it is well below our fifty dollar point,

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 1>which I was surprised by because definitely in the pocket. Yeah,

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>they make cars that last a long long time, and

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.239
<v Speaker 1>these cars are very very durable, and you would think

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that we briced, you know, right up near the fifty mark.

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>But it comes in a way under. It's just under

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty five dollars, So it's a it's a very um,

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to put it this way, it's a

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>very affordable car that's still under the average US car price.

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>So not bad really. Um. Moving on, we're gonna talk

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>about the Cadillac A T S Sedan. Now, I don't

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>think there's any surprise here when we say that. Maybe

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit long in the tooth. Yeah. The design, yeah,

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean when when I think of Cadillac, I think

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>of fins, You think of the old old Cadillac. Yeah, well,

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>they seem like they were always at the forefront of design,

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>even through the seventies. You know, they have beautiful, long cars,

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>luxurious and beautiful, and now maybe they're struggling to advance past.

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Like the look of that it's kind of tired. I'll

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I'm kind of where I'm coming from. Well, sure,

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of lost track of where Cadillac is because

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.159
<v Speaker 1>it seems like all the cars are very very similar

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point, and I know that's gonna make a

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of people mad. There's you know, the electric version,

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>there's the A T S, the CTS. You know, there's

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the CTSV, and there's a lot of different really interesting Cadillacs.

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And if we were to do a show all about Cadillac,

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I would probably fall in love with the brand again,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>because I really was in love with the brand. My

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>my grandfather drove Cadillacs all his life, really, I mean

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty much all his life, all of his adult life.

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And they were always like the big, long, beautiful cars

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like luxurious, and they weren't fast, and

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>they weren't, you know, anything like sporty or anything like that.

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>But I remember taking long, long road trips in those

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>cars with my grandparents and it was just luxurious and

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it was fun and it was like it's like, so

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting in a in a in a great big

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>couch in the back seat. Now, of course, these sedans,

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is interesting because you know, there there

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>are six speed manuals, and there's eight speed automatics, and

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you know they're powered by you know, three point six

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Leader tuned the six engines that have three and are

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>in thirty five horsepower. They're very strong. It's a small,

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>lightweight car relatively compared to what Cadillac used to be.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>They have you know, of course, magnetic ride control and

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of interesting features. So they're are quick and

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're interesting vehicles, no doubt. But stylistically, I've

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:09.919
<v Speaker 1>lost all comprehension of the difference in every different type

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>of Cadillac that there is out there. And I mean,

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>they just look the same as they have, Like the sts.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>They stopped making it in two thousand eleven as a

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>four door car, but they started making it in two

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand five or four. Yeah, this design carries that same badge.

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>It's just a long time to keep that. You know,

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>it's a little it's a little more refined, but it

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>seems like they're at the point where they need to

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>do something dramatically different otherwise people just aren't going to

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>pay attention. And I think maybe like the slab side

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>design and everything, it's it's great, it was, it's really

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>interesting to begin with, but they just haven't done anything

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 1>with it for a long long time, and I think

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they need to move on, and I wish they would.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know there are other luxury brands out

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.959
<v Speaker 1>there that are doing some exciting things, you know, Mercedes

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and some of the other higher manufact like more expensive

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>manufacturers that have more dramatic, better designs, I think, and

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>if Cadillac could kind of do something different at this point,

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it would benefit them. I think they're they're

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>still making fantastic cars. They really are good cars. It's

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of like getting past that point when

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>they when they release a new model, I can't tell

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the difference between the previous model and this model, and

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it's very very little different. I know that Cadillac can

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>do this, and I know that Cadillac will be back

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>with something exciting and new, and it will happen. It's

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>just it seems like people are kind of ignoring the brand,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and I wish it wasn't happening that way, but it

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>really is. Uh. Next car on the list here is

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the Oud S four and the Audi S four. This

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>is a three leader twin turbo charge V six, and

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I think in the past it had a V eight,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>had a big V eight. They have gone down to

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a V six and again twin turbo chargers on on

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a V six still has three d and thirty three

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>horsepower and three hundred pound feet of torque. Of course,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that has the the all wheel drive Quadra system, and

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar with the Quadra system UM only many many

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>years ago. I remember I told you early on in

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>this podcast that I had a nine A four and

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I loved, loved that car. It was so fun to drive.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I had it in Michigan and I was able to

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>drive it through any depth of snow that you could

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>throw in front of me. Really, it was just unbelievable.

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>The car would not give up. It was an incredible

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>system even back then. And then we're talking about twenty

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>years ago. This is a twenty year old car. At

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>this point, I would drive it on gravel roads. I

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>would try to make the thing slide, you know, around corners.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I would love. I'd love to take it out onto

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>like back country roads that were gravel and try to

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just like push the limit of it. And probably dangerous

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>now that I look back at you know what I

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>was doing because all the trees around and lakes and

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, But so much fun and honestly,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>like that car held the ground so steadfastly that it

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was really difficult in order to make it slide if

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to. I mean, it was one when I

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>did get it too, and I could, I could push

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it in the snow and make it really do you know,

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>some dramatic moves, but it was so much fun. It

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>was so solid, so dependable, and so it just it

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>just felt so right to drive, I guess in the

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>manual form even in the rain, Like you wouldn't believe

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the confidence that that car gives you in the rain

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>versus like when you get behind the wheel of another

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>car that doesn't have the Quadra system. And I didn't

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.959
<v Speaker 1>think that I would ever be somebody that was like that.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>It would say, I can completely tell the difference between

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>this car and that carpet, but in the rain even

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like I could tell the grip of that car was

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>so much tighter than any other car that I had

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>ever driven at that point. It was just it was

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable car. I loved it, and uh and I

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>wish I had it back. It was it did get

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to be very expensive towards the end, and it wasn't

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>expensive to buy. It wasn't the price point that we're

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>talking here, because this one is just under the markets

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>around forty nine thousand, two hundred dollars for the brand

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>new version of this. I feel like a few of

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>these kind of cheap that ice point a little bit

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>just the fall. Mine was not that expensive, I'll tell

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you that it was. It was half of this, you know,

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>less than half of this actually, as a matter of fact,

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>um at the time. And I was super proud of

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>it too, because you know, it's like the first, I

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>guess maybe the first real car that I owned. You know.

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like, uh, you know, the car that I

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>picked up off the used car lot that was really

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>crappy and allowsy and everything. This was like the first

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>one that allowed me to drive home overnight and really

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of check out, and you know, it was it

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>was it felt like a real car purchase at the time. Um.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Just something different about that car, and I loved it,

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and I wish I could gole back to it. But

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 1>the next car on the list, the this is kind

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of unbelievable. It was the Jaguar on the list, um,

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguar x E thirty five T and uh, this

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>is kind of an interesting entry here. The prices started

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>around forty two thousand six nine. It is a supercharged engine,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a supercharged three liter engine, UH with the V six

0:32:56.120 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>around three forty horsepower and about three thirty two pound

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>feed of torks. So it's a very strong car. And

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the other thing is that you know, Jaguar is a

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>well known luxury brand, which makes it kind of interesting

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's on this list. I mean, is this their

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>entry level? Entry level? But is this there it has

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>most inexpensive model. It has to be, because I know

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>that there are many other Jaguars out there that you know,

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>are well well up towards the hundred thousand dollar mark

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>above that maybe even Um, I've seen a bunch of

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>on the road recently, and I know that some of

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>them are are very very expensive. And uh and yeah,

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you can expect to pay hundred thousand dollars for a

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Jaguar that you know is at the top end of

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the lineup. But for this one to get in at

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>forty two and to still be able to drive a

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Jaguar not bad. I know they had some reliability issues

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in the past, but I think that's that's taken care

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of for the most part. I mean it used to

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>be that a long long time ago. They would say, um,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're gonna buy Jaguar by two one

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.479
<v Speaker 1>one for when it's in the shop for any British

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>car trade, then yeah, it well exactly that's any British car.

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>You're right, You're absolutely right. I mean now nowadays, I

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>think there that's a little better. Yeah, it's a little

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>better now. And I think that you know, when Ford

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>took over Jaguar for a short time, and I want

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to say that was in the nineteen nineties, I believe

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>um some of the reliability issues went away. And now

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Ford does not own Jaguar anymore, but the reliability is

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>still there and I think that they're definitely on track

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>to be a much more reliable vehicle. But to be

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>able to get into one for forty dollars, I mean,

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I know it still sounds like a lot of money,

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but a brand new Jaguar for that price is not

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>bad at all, and you can imagine that it's loaded

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of luxury features. And you know what,

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>we're making some pretty good progress on this list. So

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>let's let's take another break here, if you don't mind,

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And we're back and you're listening to the Fast Track,

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, and I'm joined with

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>my special guest, Kurt. Kurt is my producer, and we've

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>been talking about sedans and I think we're well into

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>our list at this point, Um, there's been a couple

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of maybe I don't know about surprises so far, but

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>there's been a few that I don't know, just a little, um,

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't expect them on this list, maybe like the

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Jaguar I think was one, and there's a few more

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that are coming up that I think you might be

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>surprised by. The next one on our list here, which

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>is a list of the fastest sedans under fifty thousand dollars,

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is the Ford Fusion Sport. And this may be the

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.799
<v Speaker 1>first true sleeper car on the list, might be, but

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, Ford Fusion. You wouldn't expect that, right,

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>This is this is a fairly common car, right, I mean,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>it's something you see on the road quite a bit.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>It is. However, and this is hard to believe. This

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is Ford's quickest sedan ever they maybe not ever, but

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Ford's quickest sedan currently. I should say that three hundred

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and twenty five horse power in the sedan, which I

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>had no idea. I had no idea. I thought this

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>car was like a two hundred horse power just nondescript

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>vehicle that you see every day in the parking, you know,

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>very strange it has three horse power, three dred and

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>eighty pound feet of torque. What are people doing with

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>how much torque in a Ford Fusian todan are they?

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Are they pulling stumps out in their yard or what?

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It seems like that's an awful lot

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.439
<v Speaker 1>of torque for a car like this. And and what's

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>funny is like he used the same two point seven

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>leader turbo charge V six that the F one fifty

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>use as well as the Edge Sports so much bigger vehicles,

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>they have stuffed it into this little Ford Fusion Sport

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and again the sport model. Maybe that's the that's the

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>key there. We see probably a lot of Ford Fusions

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>out there, but not a lot of forward fusion sport

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>cars out there. All wheel drive. I didn't know that either.

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea that they were all wheel drive,

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>six ft automatic gearbox, which is I guess fine, that's

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that's all right. That's what it seems like a lot

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of manufacturers are doing at this point. But prices, if

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about price, it's it's still well

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>below the fifty dollar mark. In fact, it's below even

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Is this the lowest I think so? It might be

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty three thousand, four hundred and seventy five dollars. So

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking less than thirty four thousand dollars for a

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>pretty strong vehicle. And you're right. I hesitated to call

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it sleeper because I want to say that, like, sleeper

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>is more reserved for cars that are just ridiculously overpower. Right,

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>this one is a lot of power. I get it.

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>But it seems like we could argue this all day,

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I think, Kurt, But um, it seems to me like

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>when you get up to like the five dred horse

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>power six hunder horse power in a sedan, that's where

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you get to kind of the sleeper. But then again,

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those cars look fast, all right, So

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>we're getting to uh a little bit higher in the

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the price point here with the BMW and you could

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>probably expect this, But the BMW three forty I, it's

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>got a three leader twin turbocharge in line six cylinder

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>horse power and about three two pound feet to torque.

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny, Look at this one. Look at

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the numbers on this one far when that far below

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>below what the Ford fusion support provide, which is and

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>the price is a little bit more so we're talking

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>about a car that starts around hundred dollars, and you

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>know that when you start adding features to that car,

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the price only goes up. Now the next one, oh,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>this one, this one is probably this one gets my

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>vote as the best sleeper and on the list, and

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I've we've talked about this car a few times on

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>car stuff and and uh, the Chevrolet SS. And I

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>think that maybe this is probably the one that I

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>would pick because it just doesn't look like much of

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>anything when it's on the road, it really does. And

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, it has a six point two later

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>V eight and it makes four hundred and fifteen horsepower

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and about four hundred and fifteen pound feet at work.

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Extremely strong. But also it puts all this power through

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a six speed manual transmission or a six speed automatic transmission,

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and of course rear wheel drive only it's not all

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>wheel drive or anything like that, so it's a little

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>bit different. But a six speed manual, I think that's

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool for a sedan. You know, on our list

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>here only a couple have that at this point. But

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like this one is one of those

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>cars that you don't think much of it when it's

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>on the road. If you're next to one and you

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>see one really using all that power, you know, somebody

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>who really really pushes it, it's impressive. And I have

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I've I've seen this, and I know that you've probably

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>seen the Pontiac G eight, remember the old Pontiacs Pontacs

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>gone of course, you know, years ago. But the G

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>eight sedan that they had, and of course the G

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>t o uh that we've we've talked about in the

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>past and car stuff. Both of those cars extremely fast,

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of surprising fast. The overall looks of the Chevy

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Ss just don't they belie what's underneath. Really, I mean,

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't think that there would be that strong of

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a V eight engine underneath this this car, and it's

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>just it's it's a really cool package. I would I

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>would love to be able to drive one. The price

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>on them, however, is there's forty seven thousand reasons why

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't get that car. You know what would be

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>really cool? And I know that Okay, this is branching

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>off from this and we'll get to the end of

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>our list here real quick. But I know that uh,

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>um Ford and uh, there's a lot of car manufacturers

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, surprisingly enough, that are stopping automobile production and

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>they're just doing They're focusing on SUVs, they're focusing on trucks,

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they're focusing on just sports cars. Maybe. So Ford is

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>one where they're just gonna build the Mustang and that's it.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna stop all other car production. So if they

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>were continue to build a Ford Usion and stuff the

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Mustang engine into that car and it just as like

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a special edition and you know, maybe they make uh

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand of them or whatever it would be would

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>be a high number because it's Ford. You know, it

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be like five hundred or something like a boutique manufacturer.

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But imagine if they were to stuff that engine into

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the Ford Fusion kind of like you know, of course

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Chevy's doing that with well the six point two Leader.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a version, a derivative of the Corvette engine.

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:26.959
<v Speaker 1>So if if it would be kind of the same

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:28.879
<v Speaker 1>thing to be able to do that kind of thing. Now,

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I know the price would go up dramatically on the Fusion,

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>but that would be kind of fun to have them

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>in a little bit of a horse power work. Okay,

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 1>there are three cars on our list, and let's kind

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>of buzz through them kind of quickly. Here the Mercedes

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>mg C L A forty five Formatic. That's now, that's

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a long name. I hope they don't try to put

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that all on the back of the car, because they'll

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 1>put in different places on the back. It'll all be there.

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna it's gonna wrap around the car. Um. But

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the output for this car is something like three hundred

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and seventy five horse power and three or thirty two

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>pound feet of torque. So that's that's more power than

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a BMW M two, which is pretty strong. That's a

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good point to begin it. Now. It

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>has a seven speed dual clutch transmission, which is I

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>believe automatic. All four wheels are powered, so it's an

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>all wheel drive, which is impressive. All right, So if

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to get into a Mercedes on this list,

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna, you know, pray almost exactly the maximum price

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>on this list, which is a forty nine thousand, five

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. Now we're getting to the very very end

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 1>of our list here, and I'll tell you I want

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to skip what is number two on this list and

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>go to number one and then come back to number two.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And there's a reason because I have a question for

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>our listeners when we get to this point. But going

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to number one on the list, this is the Infinity

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Q fifty Red Sport four hundred, and this one's a

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>little tricky because the Red Sport four hundred models starts

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>around forty eight thousand, eight hundred and fifty five dollars

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>for the rear wheel drive model. If you want to

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>go with the all wheel drive model, it does push

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it over the fifty dollar mark, just barely though it's

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>around fifty eight hundred and fifty five dollars. Uh So,

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>again that's for the all wheel drive version. The Red

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Sport four hundred, as you can imagine, stands for four

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred horsepower and about three fifty pound feet of torque,

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>has an adapted suspension, and has all kinds of you know,

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>luxury features as you can imagine with an Infinity UM

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>seven speed automatic transmission. I hate to include this one

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 1>because it does go over the threshold, but again, if

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you just want the real drive version does keep it

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>underneath it. But an interesting looking vehicle, it's not necessarily

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the best looking vehicle on this list. I don't think

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>just my own personal opinion. I mean, I know a

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people have it, you know feeling and a

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 1>huge fan of Infinities. Look but there. But they are

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>staying true to their their thing, which is admirable, and

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there love it. Seems like

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 1>refined luxury. Of course, you know, it's it's very luxurious,

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it's very it is sporty, but um again, it's tempered.

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, let's say, it's not like they've gone overboard

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with it. And there's some Infinity models that I think

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>are a little sportier looking, of course, and people do

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>things to their car to make them look sporty or

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, lower them and different wheels and that kind

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>of thing and make them look really cool. But for

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the most part, I think it's mostly like a luxury

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>brand at this point. Now, this is the one that

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.439
<v Speaker 1>was came in a number two in the list, and

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's the last one that we're going to cover.

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Um this is the Dodge Charger RT scat pack. Now,

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the reason we're talking about the scat pack version is

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>because this one does fall underneath the fifty dollar mark. Now,

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 1>if you want to buy a Dodge charger right now.

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>They range dramatically in price. They go from something like

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty six thousand dollars where you have to like the

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>base version with the V six and it's not terribly strong,

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's still strong. Maybe you know, I'm gonna ballpark this.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you have a note in front of me,

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>but three power something like that, up to about sixty

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars for the hell Cat version of this vehicle.

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Now we're not talking about the hell Cat of course,

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the one that everybody wants, you know, and the

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the seven hundred and seven horse power. It's it's an

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>incredible vehicle, it really is. But for under fifty thou

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:58.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars if you want to go to if you want

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to call it reasonable, thirty nine thousand dollars, so just

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>under forty dollars, so well underneath our our fifty dollar threshold,

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you can get a six point four Leader hemy V eight,

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>which has around four five horsepower, four hundred and seventy

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>five pound feet of torque, and has an eight speed

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>automatic transmission. I see these on the road all the

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>time around here in Atlanta. There's a ton of these

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>uh scat pack chargers. I followed one just the other

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>day on the road. Um, not that I was being

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>creepy or anything. I mean, I was just following it

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>on the road. It was in front of me. Had

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 1>um a license plate that was you know, a specialty

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>plates said scat Pack on it, which is kind of cool.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Is blue. Uh, looked like the tires were like a

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>foot wide on every corner. It was amazing looking and

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it and I know it hadn't it

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just it looks like it's been lowered. It sounded incredible.

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 1>It's got that light bar that goes across the full

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>back end of the vehicle, which is really distinctive. And

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you can just you can spot that car a mile away,

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>really you can. It just sounds incredible, It looks incredible.

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Dodge has a amazing lineup right now. And we're we're

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>at the end of our list here, and I want

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to ask our listeners this. And I've been watching this

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, and I think they have to.

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Dodge has been incrementally creeping up and up and up

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>in horse power, and I know the prices are coming up,

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know they're offering these these crazy engines and

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>these hell Cats and the Red Eye hell Cats, and

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>you know the performance versions of these cars, and I

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>know there's some that are dragstrip only or track only

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>type cars, but I'm talking about street cars. This is

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>my question to you, the listener. When do you believe

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to see a major manufacturer create a

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>car that is affordable but has a one thousand horsepower engine,

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, a V AT engine that's a thousand horsepower,

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>or they go to maybe they go to a V

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>ten engine. You know, they might take that old you know,

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that old V ten from the Viper that they had

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and repurpose that in the Dodge Charger. Rather, so we're

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about a sedan, and I don't mean a challenger,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, two to our coop or a sports car.

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Something seems to me that that's that's very doable. But

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>define affordable for the listener. Affordable you say under fifty

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>or no, I'm not even gonna say under fifty because

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're already at sixty six thousand for a

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and a seven hundred and seven horsepower hell Cat version

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Charger. So as far as affordable, and I

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>know it's all relative here, but let's say that it's

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>still under and I don't want to affordable. Let's say

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>let's say nine dollars but a thousand horse power and

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>it has to be a sedan. When do you think

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen? Because I feel like I feel

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>like Dodge is gonna do that, and once it does that,

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it's just going to drop the mic and be done.

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's like, you know, once we've achieved a

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>thousands exactly like I'm you know what, We've done it.

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>No one else is going to be able to do

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>that again. We're done. Let's move on and and we'll

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 1>still make great looking cars, but you know, we're gonna

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>make them a little bit more affordable. And you know,

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're only maybe they're only gonna have eight hundred

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and eighteen horse power or what ever it is, you know,

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 1>some crazy number. What's is just ridiculous. But I mean,

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a seven hundred and seven horsepower car

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's growing and growing and growing, so a thousand

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.240
<v Speaker 1>horsepower doesn't seem to me like it's that far off. Maybe,

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 1>uh And if I had to put a guess on this,

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna guess like five years because they're gonna want to

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>grow it incrementally and slower, you know, just slowly, slowly

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and build build the anticipationtention right, And and no other

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>manufacturer seems to be keeping up. I mean they're they're close,

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>but they're not they're not trying. They're not in this

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>like back and forth war with Dodge. And I feel

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>like dodges in its own place right now, and I

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's what's going on. So we got our

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.720
<v Speaker 1>list out. I I did, however, neglect to get into

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, the most expensive luxury cars, the sedans rather

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the fastest sedans, you know, the fastest cars for the money,

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. We'll get to that, I think, well,

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll do it in another episode, if that's all right.

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>But I have I've I've truly enjoyed having you here

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>with me today and I've app and it's been a blast.

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>It's been fun, it really has. And I'm so happy

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>that you've been able to sit on this one because

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you feel about the sidekick thing.

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So there, you know, there's some great sidekicks out, dude.

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Like I look at myself as maybe like

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a Garth Algar type or like a fam wise camge

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>what about Jesse Pinkman, But he didn't you didn't say

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>bitch every other word. But but no, Honestly, like some

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>of the sidekicks, I think, um and I don't mean

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to like downplay your role here by saying your sidekick.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just so happy to be able to have

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you behind the mic with me for once. It's it's

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.520
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