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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my bass friend Mike Harmon, As we count down

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Speaker 1: to the biggest game in all of sports, Lakers next

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, Madison Square Garden, We count down to the

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Speaker 1: biggest game of the year Sunday Night, the NBA on

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Speaker 1: NBC Luca and the Lakers. Can he ignore Lebron James

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Speaker 1: enough to put him enough to beat the Knicks, who

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Speaker 1: may be playing their final game with Karl Anthony Towns

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Speaker 1: before he gets traded?

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Speaker 3: Well done?

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Speaker 4: Do you think they did some cgi to change Jordan's

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Speaker 4: suit for whatever interview clip they're gonna show from the

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Speaker 4: last couple months?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, how do you not do that? How

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Speaker 1: do you not say, hey, it's one sit down that

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Speaker 1: it went like three hours, and we're gonna play part

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Speaker 1: of that all year long, right, like, okay, how do

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Speaker 1: you not say? You know, we're gonna make it look

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Speaker 1: like it was different. We're to give a hat. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna give them a little bit of something different. You know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give a Mike McDaniel leather jacket to wear,

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Speaker 1: like one of those you know, twenty thousand dollars leather

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Speaker 1: jackets that he likes to wear. We're just gonna put

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Speaker 1: different stuff on and we're gonna put him I Love

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Speaker 1: New York T shirt on him. Yeah, we're gonna to

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Speaker 1: make it all look like it's different. We're gonna give

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Speaker 1: them a little bit of a little bit of five

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Speaker 1: o'clock shadow, you know it, so it looks like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do something, make it look like Oh, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just one sit down and we paid Jordan a

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Speaker 1: gobsmack full of money just for sitting down and talking

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Speaker 1: basketball eight months ago. We're gonna play it out over

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Speaker 3: Number one good for him, Number two great for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, yeah, yeah, it is. It is.

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Speaker 3: And now you go in and sell, sell, sell, that's all.

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Speaker 4: It's now that the big deal of getting a big

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Speaker 3: There's there's not even the Pro Bowl games to get

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Speaker 1: And you'll hear what Michael Jordan has to say his

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Speaker 1: thoughts about the Knicks, and because it was eight months ago,

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Speaker 1: it's well, I think the TIBs this season is gonna

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Speaker 1: really you know, falling short this year, I'm sure they'll

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Speaker 4: I remember Tims from his time in Minnesota and Chicago.

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Speaker 4: He's got these Nicks playing at a different level, no

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Speaker 4: question about it. We've seen a rededication to the defensive

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Speaker 1: Town I mean they really. I mean you have to

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Speaker 1: long it was. He sat down with Mike Rico and go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do we have that still works? Now? Granted you

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Speaker 1: you did the interview like it was an evergreen thing

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Speaker 1: like what can we use? Man? Like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: You still picture of Michael Jordan. When I sat down

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Speaker 1: To a man, I don't know, man, that's I mean

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Speaker 4: It just seems like there was a paragraph in the

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Speaker 4: I'm only doing this one paying you a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: What he sees, here's the trends, here's the new players

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, man, that's just absolutely.

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Speaker 4: What a genius because he probably took that money and

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Speaker 1: We had. We had one interview with Jordan what three

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Speaker 3: Mean we had all of those handwringing moments.

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Speaker 4: Remember Charles saved everybody's jobs and everything else and was

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Speaker 4: on every place he could be to tell you that

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Speaker 4: he did it. Uh, and then they didn't have to

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Speaker 1: I still get the money, right, even though so we're

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Speaker 4: We got called four times, I got paid all the

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Speaker 4: shows we would have been doing it, so.

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Speaker 1: We got more NBA on the way. But you know

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Speaker 1: how we like to say we're ahead of the curve

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Speaker 1: here on the show, and bainly we say that because

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Speaker 1: we are. We give you headlines sometimes weeks in advance

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Speaker 1: things that are gonna happen. Well, Jason, give me an example.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example from the biggest story of

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Speaker 1: more and the longer Sam Darnold's run goes this year

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Speaker 1: that with their jobs with the Vikings GM head coach,

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna pay because this is such an incredible

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Speaker 1: epic fail that you had a terrific quarterback in the building,

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Speaker 1: because for for Kevin O'Connell, fireball offense, right for quazy

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Speaker 1: Adolphamensa fireball offense. Today, guess what Adelphamensa got fired as

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Speaker 1: And it's a shocker because here we are. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: Vikings did it. Now they like to dress it up

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Speaker 1: he rubbed people the wrong way. None of all that

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Speaker 1: The real reason why he got fired is because Spearheading

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Speaker 1: it's such a big fail is it's not like, well,

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Speaker 1: No one's really giving them flak for Daniel Jones getting

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Speaker 1: You were fourteen and only one team gets to really

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Speaker 1: don't win the last game of the year, it's a failure. Right,

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Speaker 1: only one team is happy. You saw the guy. You

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Speaker 1: Everybody forgets about those trades. Everyone gets about of trade

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Speaker 1: you could have kept Sam Donald and franchised him and said, okay,

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Speaker 1: at least we have a year where we see what

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Speaker 1: beat him out If Donald's for really has another great year, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's our guy. There are so many things you could

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Speaker 1: and they lose. Okay, probably adul Famensa keeps his job.

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Speaker 1: But because this got so big, this problem, and this

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Speaker 1: And you know, to have a quick appreciation moment here

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Speaker 1: very good, very good. Uh. Today viral video because Brown's

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Speaker 1: head coach Todd Mounkin met Shaudor Sanders for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Apparently Shooter Sanders been traveling, he's been out of the country.

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Speaker 1: Tom Munkin gets named Brown's coach the other day and

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Speaker 1: now they get to meet for the first time. So

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Speaker 1: cameras were rolling when Schador shows up at Brown facilities,

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Speaker 1: gets to meet Todd Munkin and listen to what Monkin

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Speaker 1: tells him when he first meets him.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, yeah, pull them back to the stare trying

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Speaker 6: to draft your ass last.

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Speaker 2: It's all worked out.

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Speaker 1: Remember that, right, We tried to draft your ass last year, right, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's all worked out. Because that was the big

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Speaker 1: story out of the draft was the Ravens were interested

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Speaker 1: and Dion Sanders said no because I don't want him

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Speaker 1: sitting behind Lamar Jackson for the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens were interested in Shador Sanders and they

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Speaker 1: didn't draft. But now here it is, as Bunkin says,

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Speaker 1: it works out. I'm here, you're here seeing this meeting

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Speaker 1: with him, right and obviously when you're coming in you're

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Speaker 1: meeting with Shador Sanders this quickly after you get a job.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what when I look at I look

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Speaker 1: at this and you get a wider angle look at

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Speaker 1: what the off season is going to bring in the

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Speaker 1: NFL as far as a quarterback position, I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: week one of this season, Shadore Sanders is going to

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Speaker 1: be starting a quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. And the

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Speaker 1: only way something gets in that way is if he's injured.

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Speaker 1: Because when when you when you break down the strategy

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Speaker 1: of what the next months are going to offer, He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna lose the job, right you would think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna stop him? Well, free agency, Well, Todd Munkin

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Speaker 1: is coming in. He wants to build things from the

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Speaker 1: ground up. Is he gonna go out and trade for

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Is he gonna go say, hey, let's bring

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Speaker 1: in Kirk Cousins to be our starter. No, he wants

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Speaker 1: to come in and see what I have and then

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Speaker 1: make a chance next year. Right. If Shador Sanders starts

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Speaker 1: and he stinks, well you get a Mulligan and then

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Speaker 1: you're drafting your next quarterback next year. Right, So he's

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Speaker 1: not going in free agency to go get a veteran

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Speaker 1: to come in for a quick fix. What about the draft.

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Speaker 1: Who's coming in that's gonna start right away? And Mendoza

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Speaker 1: that's it, right? Even Ty Simpson, who's probably the second

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Speaker 1: quarterback off the board late in the first round. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the Jets take him in the middle of the first round.

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Speaker 1: But what are they drafting him? No, of course not.

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Speaker 1: No one is getting drafted to come in that's gonna

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Speaker 1: beat out Shador Sanders. If they draft anybody, and they

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Speaker 1: probably will, this is the year to get that another

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Speaker 1: developmental quarterback. Let him be in the system for a

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Speaker 1: year and see where you're out a year from now.

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Speaker 1: So maybe they go get a Garrett nus Meyer or

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Speaker 1: someone like that, but they're not coming in to beat

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Speaker 1: out Shador Sanders. This is pro bowler Shador Sanders. Yes,

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, ten picks, but it's still Shador Sanders who

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Speaker 1: came in, took over the starting job and flashed a

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Speaker 1: little bit where you need to see him before you

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Speaker 1: make that final decision to move on from him. So

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna lose a job in training camp, not

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Speaker 1: gonna lose it over the summer. If anything, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: augment his position because he's gonna get reps with the ones.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go in as the unquestioned starter again. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that can hurt him is if he gets injured,

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Speaker 1: or if he does and says stuff where hey, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, man, I don't know what you're talking about here,

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Speaker 1: but just just don't be your own worst enemy, right,

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing that can hurt him. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: go win. He's gonna start Week one. Now, does he

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Speaker 1: keep the job after this year? That's the one dark

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Speaker 1: side for Shador Sanders, because this is it, Like he's

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Speaker 1: got twenty twenty six to show. I could be the

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Speaker 1: Browns quarterback. Maybe he's only has six weeks. Maybe they'd

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Speaker 1: go back to Dylan Gabriel. Maybe then they would go

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Speaker 1: to Garrett Nutsmeyer or whoever else they wind up taking

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Speaker 1: in the draft. He's got this year, so understand that

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Speaker 1: it seems like he's starting out. But with the Browns,

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Speaker 1: this is it. He's a fifth round pick and he

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Speaker 1: showed enough last year and the team is in a

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Speaker 1: situation where they're changing. It's a changing of the guard

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Speaker 1: and they're changing what they do and they're in a

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Speaker 1: bit of flux. This is his sweet spot to show it.

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Speaker 1: But he's got to show it this year or he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on a different team. He's not even gonna

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Speaker 1: as well, he's a fifth round pick. No, if you're

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Speaker 1: a former starter, they're gonna let you go. They're not

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Speaker 1: paying you. So then all of a sudden he's trying

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Speaker 1: to restart his career someplace else. Well, that's the one

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Speaker 1: dark side is that he's got this year and that's it.

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Speaker 1: But the best part is you can see he's going

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Speaker 1: to start this year beginning of the season for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: He is in a position to succeed as best as

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Speaker 1: he can be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is goes back to some of

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Speaker 4: the stupidity. I'll go that strong with the reaction when

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Speaker 4: Mokan got the job of why would he listen to him?

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Speaker 3: Why would he do that? I'm looking right at Uacho.

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Speaker 4: And all the others that climbed on board this like

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Speaker 4: he's a guy with the long pedigree. He was there

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Speaker 4: in Baltimore with Lamar Jackson and thought and was part

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Speaker 4: of the brain trust to try to bring in Shudorth Sanders, thinking.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he's a guy.

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Speaker 4: He's not quite Lamar, but he's got some of that

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Speaker 4: that big play potential. We saw that on display with

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Speaker 4: the Browns. Sure he made his share of mistakes, rookie

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Speaker 4: get into all the reps and all the other stuff

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Speaker 4: that people want to fight about. But he's got a

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Speaker 4: live arm and he's got the the thing I love

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Speaker 4: most when you get a quarterback that gets a shot

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Speaker 4: of Hey, I I'm not gonna be shy about it.

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Speaker 4: He has no conscience because he's gonna put it up

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Speaker 4: and he didn't have the best of receivers. We can

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Speaker 4: go down that road as well. And I'm not making

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Speaker 4: excuses for him because there were some decisions that you'd

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Speaker 4: still like to have the helmet cam and see what

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Speaker 4: he saw in those moments. But Todd Munkett clearly saw

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Speaker 4: something in the draft process that he would have been

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Speaker 4: a Raven in the fifth round. So to show up

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Speaker 4: there and have the little hey, we almost drafted your

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Speaker 4: ass and your dad got in the way. Didn't say that,

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Speaker 4: didn't need to, but here they are reunited. He just

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Speaker 4: had a great run in Baltimore, that offense, when Lamar

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Speaker 4: was healthy, when Henry was healthy, even with maybe lesser receivers,

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Speaker 4: depending how much you love or don't love Andrews, Zay

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Speaker 4: flowers in the bunch that you can go and get

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Speaker 4: your shot to make some plays. Dylan Gabriel is the

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Speaker 4: backup if he's there at all. But you're not expending

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Speaker 4: great capital for any of the other quarterbacks that are

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Speaker 4: just dress properties right now, why would you bother?

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