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Speaker 2: To the fifteen of the ten, Burry's Gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Slammed to the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 2: Here Queen go one handed catching a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, how's that film? Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic and

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Speaker 1: two time pro bowler Lorenzo Alexander.

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Speaker 3: So here's the good news, gentlemen. In four of the

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Speaker 3: six games this season, the Cardinals have had the lead

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Speaker 3: at halftime, however, and only one of those games have

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Speaker 3: they had the lead when the game went final. And

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Speaker 3: another one of those instances happened on Sunday. As we say,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Report, presented by a

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Speaker 3: Seat Geek your tickets to Great Seats. Cardinals lose in

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Speaker 3: La twenty six to nine. So the Cardinals went into

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Speaker 3: the locker room with a nine to six advantage, field

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Speaker 3: goals instead of touchdowns and ultimately leaving points on the field.

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Speaker 3: Not a great run defense in the second half, and

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals here are sitting at one and five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's unfortunate because when and I didn't watch

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Speaker 4: the game live by watching back, and so the miss opportunities,

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Speaker 4: some of the penalties, obviously the turnovers. It's not always

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Speaker 4: all bad. It always comes down to a handful of

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Speaker 4: plays here and there. If they go a different way,

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Speaker 4: you feel much better how the game ends up, and

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Speaker 4: they probably end up, you know, fighting for this game

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Speaker 4: at the end is not over in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: and so they have to figure out a way to

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Speaker 4: just be more consistent. I mean, starting fast is great,

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Speaker 4: and competing you have to be able to sustain that,

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Speaker 4: right they and a lot of guys are heard and

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Speaker 4: you know in and out don't have Kyler. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot of different things that you're competing against, but doing

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Speaker 4: your job, be able to make some adjustments as things

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Speaker 4: are happening to you. They have to do a better

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Speaker 4: job of that, especially in the second half. What we

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Speaker 3: Game coming out of the locker room, the Rams outscored

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Speaker 5: Paul.

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Speaker 3: They did it on the ground, which we will dive

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Speaker 3: into heavily as the show continues. But you had a

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Speaker 3: front row view on the field watching what happened and

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Speaker 3: more or less what didn't happen for the Cardinals. But again,

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Speaker 3: probably the most disappointing game to date for the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: as far as how the game finished and really didn't

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Speaker 3: look competitive at the end.

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Speaker 6: You know, you dominated the first half, right, first downs

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Speaker 6: were eleven to four, rushing yards one to three to five.

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Speaker 6: The Rams were zero for five on third down. You

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Speaker 6: to show for it, it was only nine to six.

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Speaker 6: You're oh for two in the red zone in that

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Speaker 6: to a three point game. Jonathan Gannon incited that said,

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I do know that all the coaches came out first,

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Speaker 6: of the coaches, most of the coaches came out really early.

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Speaker 6: So I asked Trey McBride about that. He need to

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Speaker 6: say that the coaches said, all right, it's on you

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Speaker 6: Cardinals are trilling the rest of the league when it

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Speaker 6: comes to second half scoring. What's going on. But it

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Speaker 6: certainly didn't translate to the second half. Obviously, Sean McVay

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Speaker 7: We get it.

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Speaker 6: They made a heck of a halftime adjustment, did they not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they just made a shift in focus.

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Speaker 4: I think in the first half they really were trying

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals defense just couldn't make any adjustments. And then offensively,

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Speaker 3: One hundred and seventy four rushing yards for the Rams

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Speaker 8: We got to do a better job and making sure

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Speaker 8: what we're trying to get out of the calls, and

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Speaker 8: you know, when they punch us, we got to punch

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Speaker 6: Okay, When he says when they punch us, we got

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Speaker 6: to punch back a little bit, translate that for us.

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Speaker 6: Lorenzo Alexander right from coach speak so to English. Is

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Speaker 6: he saying the team wasn't gritty enough, wasn't physical enough

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Speaker 4: Say that to an extent, especially there was this one

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Speaker 4: when I'm going against a guy like that, I have

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Speaker 4: he was getting after the quarterback. They ran a game

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Speaker 4: And that is what I'm thinking about. Finish the play,

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Speaker 4: You have to have my mentality of I'm not going

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Speaker 4: but I don't fear you. And I think that was

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Speaker 4: there was other examples, that's just one that pops in

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Speaker 3: Seemed like there was a lot of that in that

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Speaker 3: Cardinals knew what was happening and they just couldn't do

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that sucks. You know, I'm the first one

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Speaker 4: admit I've been in a game like that. It was

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Speaker 4: And Sean McVay did something and it wasn't overly complicated,

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Speaker 4: just they kept running the same play, you know, motion,

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Speaker 6: According to Jonathan Lyndbetter, a lot of cracked tosses. What

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Speaker 4: Even cracked toss. It was more like an insigne zone scheme.

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Speaker 4: And so crack toss They might have mixed it in,

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Speaker 6: So when the front seven says, especially against mcveih or Shanahan,

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Speaker 7: That's what they're talking about, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a whole bunch of eye candy. And you

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Speaker 4: gotta understand, am I in Cover one plays different than

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Speaker 4: safeties have to understand just as much as the linebackers

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Speaker 7: In in my responsibility. It only takes a little slither.

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Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, two of the best efeties

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Speaker 4: The communication standpoint, and then you have your defensive line

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Speaker 7: It's a lose lose situation for you.

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Speaker 3: It was a tough watch in that second half. According

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Speaker 3: to the head coach, though it was not a toughness issue.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Jonathan Gannon had to say.

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Speaker 8: I think it starts with me first, you know, but

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Speaker 8: we got the guys in the locker room to do it.

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Speaker 8: I know that, and I'm questioning their toughness or effort.

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Speaker 8: I think it's just got to come down to the

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Speaker 3: There, especially in the second half. As I mentioned, the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals were outscored twenty to nothing in the second half.

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Speaker 3: On the season, Cardinals have been outscored ninety eight to thirty,

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Speaker 3: sixty four to seven in the fourth quarter alone. Despite

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Speaker 9: I feel like the team is still, you know, together.

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Speaker 9: I feel like guys are confident. I mean, we've been

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Speaker 2: Burst down at the twelve back to throw. Dobbs fires

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Speaker 3: As we say, welcome back. It is the Cardinals Red

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Speaker 3: great seats, Creig Reia, lupaal Calvic and Lorenzo Alexander. Before gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: we get into the Dobbs accuracy issues and what happened

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Speaker 3: Per league source, Paul Sanders's twenty one day window just

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Speaker 6: Is it just musical chairs? And there were too many guys.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: He met the media in front of his locker. Everything

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 7: Back, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: We had seen a natural progression Zoe from Dobbs after

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Speaker 4: weeks of greatness, right, and then you have some good

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Speaker 4: players you may get twelve out of sixteen weeks or

439
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Speaker 4: seventeen weeks. You know, I'm old to tell you how

440
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Speaker 4: old I am. Seventeen weeks of greatness, right, and then

441
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Speaker 4: you got some role players that give it to you here,

442
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Speaker 4: give it to you there. Right, there's just less consistency.

443
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Speaker 4: And I think that's just what we're seeing, you know,

444
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Speaker 4: with Dobbs as a young quarterback as far as experience,

445
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Speaker 4: learning and growing, right, you have that four weeks of

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Speaker 4: game film that coaches have on him now, when players

447
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Speaker 4: have on him now as well as the other players

448
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Speaker 4: that he's depending on to get open or block for him,

449
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Speaker 4: and people are gonna attack weaknesses in certain concepts of

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Speaker 4: how you run your offense, and I think.

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Speaker 7: That's also a part of it.

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Speaker 4: And then there's I think this, uh the game sometimes

453
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Speaker 4: when you get when you when things are aren't going right,

454
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Speaker 4: it speeds up and you're pressing. And so like that

455
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Speaker 4: interception that we're talking about in the red zone, right,

456
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Speaker 4: it looked like it was designed for Rondelle Moore. For

457
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Speaker 4: whatever reason, he came off that that read way too

458
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Speaker 4: quick and his feet wasn't set and he tried to

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Speaker 4: get it to erthz and that's why he threw it

460
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Speaker 4: behind him his feet. His feet was still set up

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Speaker 4: to throw it to Rondelle more who actually beat this

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Speaker 4: guy on the angle route.

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Speaker 7: It would have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, I talked to coaches yesterday because

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Speaker 6: we were wondering on the team playing, was it supposed

466
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Speaker 6: to sell that down, supposed to sit down in the zone? No,

467
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Speaker 6: I got it from coach that was just behind him.

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Speaker 4: No, he was Erch's job was to clear that out.

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Speaker 4: So Rondelle Moore had a double double move. If the

470
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Speaker 4: linebacker was inside, he would have broke out, but the

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Speaker 4: linebackers on the outside.

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Speaker 7: It looked like it was designed. Boom.

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Speaker 4: He ran an angle route right in the middle, and

474
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Speaker 4: that's where it should and that's where Dobbs's eye started.

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Speaker 4: And it it just feel like it felt like to

476
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Speaker 4: me it came off quickly. Now being in the pocket,

477
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Speaker 4: things happened really quickie. Right, you've been hit a couple

478
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Speaker 4: of times. It's not there.

479
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Speaker 7: Let me give get to my guy. And then on

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Speaker 7: the fumble.

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Speaker 4: Right, we put a lot of celebration and stuff on

482
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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, and I think sometimes we're a little hard

483
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Speaker 4: on them as well. You got a block Byron Jones

484
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Speaker 4: came off the edge Scott free boom.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Dods didn't have a shot any.

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Speaker 4: Thirty two of the quarterbacks in this league probably fumbling,

487
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Speaker 4: maybe a couple of them, not just because they bigger,

488
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Speaker 4: stronger guys, but it's no way that he's keeping the

489
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Speaker 4: football in his hands on that specific play. So I

490
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Speaker 4: don't necessarily put that on him, right, And that's why again,

491
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Speaker 4: guys have to step up and protect the guy, especially

492
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Speaker 4: when he's in this phase of maybe struggling, to maybe

493
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Speaker 4: give him an extra tick to get the ball of

494
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Speaker 4: his hands and find who he needs to find.

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Speaker 3: And then two big misses to Hollywood Brown in the

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Speaker 3: first half, one that was a little bit underthrown, allowing

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Speaker 3: the dB to come over that would have been a touchdown.

498
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Speaker 3: And then the fourth down throw a deep shot. Hollywood

499
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Speaker 3: was white, I'd open, but the pass Paul led him

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Speaker 3: out of bounds and he makes the catch out of

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Speaker 3: the field to play.

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Speaker 6: That's three and two games because you go back to

503
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Speaker 6: the first quarter of Cincinnati where he missed him on

504
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Speaker 6: a nine route as well on the nearest sideline. So

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Speaker 6: that's three and two games. And look, we can talk

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Speaker 6: about whether there's plenty of game film finally out on

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Speaker 6: Josh Dobbs. Right, he'd only started two career games in

508
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Speaker 6: year seven, coming into year seven, and he had that

509
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Speaker 6: slow progression. Right, he had that three game stretch week

510
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Speaker 6: two through four where he had zero turnovers and had

511
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Speaker 6: a passer rating a one ozh six and a completion

512
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Speaker 6: percentage of seventy one percent combined between week two, three

513
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Speaker 6: and four, and you're wondering our I and maybe now

514
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Speaker 6: there's film out there. Cincinnati put a spy on him

515
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Speaker 6: in certain key times where they didn't want to let

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Speaker 6: him run the ball, and his running this phenomenal. He

517
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Speaker 6: had the twenty yard run, he had the twenty four

518
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Speaker 6: yard run. I cannot tell you how amazed guys are

519
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Speaker 6: on the side end. They're like, Okay, this is a

520
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Speaker 6: mind blow. This guy can really run, and he's elusive

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Speaker 6: if he could just dial down the accuracy. So for

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Speaker 6: everything you might see on film, there have been open

523
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Speaker 6: receivers zach Ertz, Highlwood Brown, and he just hasn't been

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Speaker 6: able to connect overall.

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Speaker 3: Dobbs on Sunday twenty one of forty one for two

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five yards the interception inside the red zone,

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Speaker 3: and that was key. Here's head coach Jonathan Gennon.

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Speaker 8: When we had opportunities down there, is are four point plays,

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Speaker 8: which makes the game completely different. You know, if the

530
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Speaker 8: score is a little bit different at halftime, maybe they

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Speaker 8: don't do that in the second half. So we got

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Speaker 8: to just make sure we're converting those four point plays

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Speaker 8: down there and make sure we put up some more points.

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Speaker 3: Offense on Sunday held without a touchdown for the first

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Speaker 3: time since Week one at Washington. That game also saw

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals go zero for two in the red zone,

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Speaker 3: as they did on Sunday against the Rams. Keyanta ingram

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Speaker 3: on what they have to do when they get inside

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Speaker 3: the twenty.

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Speaker 11: Just gotta finish, you know, Like I said one hundred time,

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Speaker 11: real great offense, ballance offense were getting the red zone NFL,

542
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Speaker 11: we got to be able to finish. Guys too good

543
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Speaker 11: not to finish in the settle the field goals know,

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Speaker 11: and I mean takes part of the blame. Thirty one,

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Speaker 11: I gotta go get it.

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Speaker 3: We all love Matt Prater. I think his accuracy from

547
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Speaker 3: beyond forty yards is without question, one of the best

548
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Speaker 3: in the league. I don't like seeing Matt Prater take

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Speaker 3: twenty five thirty yard field goals and it's nothing against Matt.

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Speaker 3: It's just you're settling for three as opposed to getting seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not I mean that's one of the keys

552
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Speaker 4: of winning the game is your red zone performance, right,

553
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Speaker 4: And it's a significant difference. As coach Ganner just said,

554
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Speaker 4: those four points right mean a lot. And I think

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Speaker 4: going back to Dobbs, it's frustrating because you can you've

556
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Speaker 4: we've seen what he's capable of doing, and then you

557
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Speaker 4: see like a play like the two shots to Hollowhee Brown,

558
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Speaker 4: like ah, even within that same game, you see him

559
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Speaker 4: making some great throws down the middle of the field

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Speaker 4: on some of these dig routes. It's like, man, why

561
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Speaker 4: can't we just get that every single time or the

562
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Speaker 4: majority of the time, right, because guys aren't perfect, But

563
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Speaker 4: it always comes back to a handful of players three

564
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Speaker 4: or four throws, especially those two ones that we know

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Speaker 4: he can make and probably should make. And so I

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Speaker 4: don't know if he got excited or oh man, this

567
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Speaker 4: dude is wide open. Sometimes you know that easy lamp

568
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Speaker 4: in basketball is the hardest one to make. Man, You

569
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Speaker 4: way out in front of everybody. Oh, and then you

570
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Speaker 4: end up missing the layup, right. So whatever he has

571
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Speaker 4: to do to rain in his emotions and win it,

572
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Speaker 4: they need it.

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Speaker 7: That's what he has to focus on. Because we know

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Speaker 7: he's capable.

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Speaker 4: He has to figure out why he's not able to hit,

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Speaker 4: you know, Hollywood on those two plays where the guy

577
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Speaker 4: is really wide open, it has a five yard space

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Speaker 4: of cushion on him.

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Speaker 5: Guy.

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Speaker 6: And I've asked a number of guys, including coaches, what

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Speaker 6: if what if Josh Dobbs had the entirety of an

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Speaker 6: offseason with this team, this offense.

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Speaker 7: This Scooper receivers.

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Speaker 6: What if he had a training camp or even a

585
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Speaker 6: single preseason game? He had none of those, right, but

586
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Speaker 6: most guys have shaking out sid now at this point,

587
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Speaker 6: those are definitely NFL passes that should be completed by

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Speaker 6: an NFL quarterback. And the other thing is Cardinals are

589
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Speaker 6: giving him a run game. Even minus James Conner. They

590
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Speaker 6: ran for a buck thirty four point three yards of carry.

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Speaker 6: He's had a balanced offense. So it's a big question. Now, Okay,

592
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Speaker 6: can he take the next step? Can he restore some

593
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Speaker 6: of the accuracy you saw early in the season.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals back on the road this week, another matchup against

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Speaker 3: the NFC West at Seattle, which is a very good

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Speaker 3: run defense. We'll touch on that and touch on the

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Speaker 3: cardinals lack of run defense as we continue. It is

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals Red Sew Report presented by Sekik your ticket's

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Speaker 2: Network first and ten four LA from its twenty five,

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Speaker 2: and they are going to run Williams to the left day.

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Speaker 2: He's got a hole past the thirty, past the thirty five,

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Speaker 2: up to the forty and finally brought down at the

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Speaker 2: forty one. They got the Cardinals on their heels there.

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Speaker 10: Coming out and running the ball. Just a fourth run

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Speaker 10: play of the day, and that.

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Speaker 5: One goes for sixteen yards, just the fourth rushing play

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Speaker 5: off the game for the Rams. I don't think the

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals are respecting the Rams' ability to run the

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Speaker 5: ball at all.

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Speaker 2: Takes to Williams off the right side, gets the edge

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Speaker 2: of the forty at the thirty five, Blakes three at

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Speaker 2: the twenty bar side of the fifteen, and down to

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Speaker 2: about the ten yard boys wrapped up thirty one yard

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Speaker 2: run to the eleven where Kyron Williams and the Rams

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Speaker 2: looking to add.

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Speaker 5: To that four point lead. A couple of mistackles on

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Speaker 5: misplaying Williams is down the sideline right there. You just

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Speaker 5: can't have misstackles.

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Speaker 3: Rams opened the second half with nine Straights runs, eight

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Speaker 3: by running backs and then that scrambled by Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 3: That drive ended with a touchdown. Sixty two rushing yards

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Speaker 3: on that first possession of the Rams in the third quarter,

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Speaker 3: Williams three runs of ten or more yards alone as

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Speaker 3: by seekeek your ticket to great Seats. Then the second

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Speaker 3: possession for the Rams forty five rushing yards that ended

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Speaker 3: into the field goal. Third possession fifty five rushing yards

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Speaker 3: and a touchdown at the zoe that the script completely

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Speaker 3: flipped from the first half to the second half, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I tell my young players like

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Speaker 4: this all the time. I say, when a team found

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Speaker 4: something that is working, they gonna keep running it until

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Speaker 4: you stop it. And you heard, you know, the great

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Speaker 4: ron Rooflely there talk about mistackles. That's just the end result.

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Speaker 4: This is a whole bunch of stuff that's happening before

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Speaker 4: there where they're not even in position to make a tackle.

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Speaker 4: You can't tackle guys from the side in this league,

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Speaker 4: especially these big, strong or squatty backs that are running downhill.

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Speaker 4: It's really hard to bring guys down like that. And

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Speaker 4: what was happening is just linebackers and safeties not adjusting

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Speaker 4: the properly, proper alignment and then fitting their graps so properly,

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Speaker 4: along with the defensive line running lateral and getting pushed back.

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Speaker 4: And when you got like that, I mean I could

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Speaker 4: have been back there.

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Speaker 11: I'm old.

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Speaker 4: My hamstring hurts right now. I mean I could have

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Speaker 4: got five or six back there, you know, and looked

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Speaker 4: all worldly. So they have to fix that because teams

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Speaker 4: are gonna start hitting them more with some of these

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Speaker 4: zone runs that I guarantee you gonna see something very

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Speaker 4: similar in the next game. As far as because they

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Speaker 4: couldn't adjust to it at all.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Rams didn't just go from five yards

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Speaker 6: rushing in the first half to a Bucks seventy nine

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Speaker 6: on the game. They had a ton of chunk runs

657
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 6: just Karen Williams himself had a thirty one yard run

658
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 6: in the second half, a twenty seven yard run, a

659
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: seventeen yard run a fourteen yard run. So do Zoo's point,

660
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 6: something was wrong, something was missing, all right, when you

661
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 6: talk about alignment and assignment, something was a miss. And yeah,

662
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 6: there were a lot of mistackles. And yes, every time

663
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 6: you see a game without Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson,

664
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Speaker 6: you realize just how superior an elite those guys are

665
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 6: as open field tacklers. What normal safeties look like, which

666
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 6: is you know, it's tough. Every preseason I say the

667
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 6: same thing. Oh, that's what a normal safety looks like,

668
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 6: trying to tackle in space when you don't have Buddha

669
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 6: Baker and Jalen Thompson out there. And unfortunately Cardlins are

670
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 6: learning the same lesson during the regular season. But how

671
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 6: many times did karen Olians get to the second level untouched?

672
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Speaker 11: Yeah?

673
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's all I mean. These backs are great.

674
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Speaker 4: I mean that's why everybody's you know, they got a

675
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: ton of backs everywhere, right, And guys, this system is

676
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: goes you know what's Kyle's dadd's name, Oh, Shannon Mike Shenahan. Right,

677
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 4: this goes back to the Denver days. This is where

678
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: this Sean day where he could put any running back

679
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: back there, and they averaged one thousand and fifteen hundred

680
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 4: yards two thousand yards. It didn't matter who was back there.

681
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: This Clinton portis bell. It didn't matter the name the statue,

682
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: first round or late rounder.

683
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 7: This is that same system.

684
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: And unless you attack it vertically with the defensive line

685
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: and make running backs cut before they have to, they

686
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: gonna carve you up. And it doesn't matter who they

687
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: put back there. And that's what was missing. That was

688
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: the punch in the mouth. I think that Ganning was

689
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: referring to, Right, Okay, I got knocked off the ball.

690
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: All right, next time, I'm gonna knock you off the ball.

691
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: I know you about to run it.

692
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: You just ran it four or five times. I'm a

693
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: guess is this is gonna be a run? Because it's

694
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: been a successful play over and over again. Same motion,

695
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: same jet motion. It's the same play. So let me

696
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: do something different. Let me change my mentality. Let me

697
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: stop being lateral as a defensive lineman, get off the ball,

698
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: create some vertical pressure, because that's what they were doing.

699
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: It's almost like the Cardinals defense couldn't believe it was

700
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 6: happening because all week long they'd heard about how The

701
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 6: Rams offense was a past first, past second, past third offense.

702
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 6: They're a top five in every passing category. That's all

703
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 6: Stafford wants to do. And they came out and completely

704
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 6: changed their identity to start the second one.

705
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: That's what it's called adjustments. I had a coach that

706
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: Danny Smith used to say this all the time. In

707
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: high school, you adjust next week. In college, you make

708
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: adjustment at halftime. When you get to the league, it's

709
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: next play, next series. We got to make an adjustment.

710
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 7: We see it.

711
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: You got pitchers, they got fifty coaches up in the box.

712
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 4: This is what they're doing to you. Right, Let's make

713
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: an adjustment. And even if you can't fit it up right,

714
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: we need to be more physical, especially the front, and

715
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: you got to challenge guys. And I don't know if

716
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: that's an ability thing, right, because you do have a

717
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: lot of young guys or some backups playing there as well,

718
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: or is it a scheme thing and this is what

719
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: we're teaching. And so they have to change that because

720
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: if they continue to do that, every team that comes

721
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: in here is going to have some type of outside

722
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: zone that looks like what the Rams just did.

723
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Rams had five rushing yards in the first half one

724
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy four in the second half. Head coach

725
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon on what he saw in the second half.

726
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 10: I thought Sean did a good job. We got to

727
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 10: do a better job.

728
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 8: Starts with me first adjusting to how they're playing the game,

729
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 8: because I thought that we played well in the first half,

730
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 8: kept points off the board, you know, did a good

731
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 8: job on third down. But then you know, we just

732
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 8: got to get to some other things there when they

733
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 8: start trying to pound the rock on us a little bit.

734
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Speaker 8: But we gotta we got to coach that better all eleven.

735
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 8: We got to play a little bit better with block recognition,

736
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 8: our pad level, the cup and tackling. We got to

737
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 8: do a better job in a run game.

738
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: And that was Kyrain Williams. Kenneth Walker is the assignments

739
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: this week in Seattle. He's got a team best six

740
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns on the season. Is yards per carry average

741
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: is just over four. But that's a bigger back who's

742
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: done it a little bit more than a Kyin Williams has.

743
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: And now to your points, Seattle sees what the Rams

744
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: did and they're gonna say, all right, let's see if

745
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: the Cardinals learn their lessons, can they stop it? And

746
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: if they don't, you're just gonna keep running the ball.

747
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for the next four weeks. They're gonna

748
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: see it until they stop it. And then when they

749
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 4: if they don't stop it, it's gonna keep getting extended.

750
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 4: They may not be as the same exact thing the Rams,

751
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be uh, you know, little bits and

752
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: pieces and sens stuff. Whatever they do in in Seattle, right,

753
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: you know, whatever they want they play the Niners again,

754
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: whenever they play whoever, they're gonna have little bits and

755
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 4: pieces of this zone scheme where they're motion across the

756
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 4: tight end and then their jet and the receiver back

757
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 4: across to create all this confusion as far as how

758
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: do I fit this upright right? And sometimes you may

759
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: not fit it up right right. That happens, but you know, uh,

760
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 4: we used to have you know, check. I don't even

761
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: know if I can say the word, well, you gotta check.

762
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: You gotta change your mindset from a passive fundamental thing

763
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: to I'm about to just dominate this cat in front

764
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: of me, knock him back, and I'm gonna make a play.

765
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: Right when stuff is going on hectic and we can't

766
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: figure out what it is. Somebody has to make a

767
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: mindset check. I'm about to go blow somebody up, make

768
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: a play in the backfield and cut all this and

769
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 4: nip this in the bud right here, right now. And

770
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: nobody was able to do that defensively. And the same

771
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: thing we talk about on the offensive side. The defense

772
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: doesn't have anybody right now that's willing to do that

773
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: or is capable of doing that on a consistent basis

774
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: when things are just going all over the place.

775
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 6: And what are the Rams and Seahawks have in common?

776
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 6: A bottom ten offensive line, not all that talented on

777
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 6: the offensive line. They'd much rather run block than pass block.

778
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 6: Gino Smith just got sacked four times and hit thirteen

779
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 6: times at Cincinnati, so they'd love to come in and

780
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: run the ball and just take it off. Gino's played.

781
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 6: He missed a lot of throws in that Cincinnati game.

782
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 6: They were abysmal in the red zone. Run Kenneth Walker

783
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 6: the one stat about him two years ago, his final

784
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 6: year in college, he led d one running backs in

785
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 6: both yards after contact and miss tackles. Dude will make

786
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 6: you miss and he'll run through you. And oh, by

787
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 6: the way, they got a physical rookie Zach Sharboney out

788
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: of UCLA who'll feed it to you as well, So

789
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: you better come ready to tackle in Seattle.

790
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: That is the assignments. On Sunday one oh five is

791
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: the kickoff eight thirty Pregame coverage begins here on the

792
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Much more on the matchup against

793
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: the Seahawks and Mike Kyler Murray be ready to return.

794
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: That's next here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

795
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: Ten twenty in the fifteen ten dock cut down, Kyler Murray,

796
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: you are ridiculous, very magic, nasty.

797
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 7: Is this nasty does?

798
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: And we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty, the

799
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: stuff you see in dreams and in video games.

800
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're gonna have a great relationship.

801
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 6: You know.

802
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 8: He's he's a direct reflection of me. The vision that

803
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 8: we have for him is is to maximize his skill set.

804
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 8: You say, well, that's kind of general.

805
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 10: No, it's not.

806
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 8: He can throw it over your head, he can beat

807
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 8: you on first, second, and third level threat and he

808
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 8: can beat on the first, second, third level running it.

809
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: Question is when do we see that head coach Jonathan

810
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: Gannon in the off season with Paul Calvic on The

811
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: Big Red Rage, talking about K one Kyler Murray, who

812
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: remains on the physically unable.

813
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 7: To perform lists.

814
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: He is eligible to come off that list. In fact,

815
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: this is the third week he's been eligible to come

816
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: off that list. Is this the week before we get

817
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: into that? Thoughts, gentlemen, about a little bit more from

818
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: the head coach Gannon on Burns and Gamble Ariz on

819
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: a Sports ninety eight seven on the plan they have

820
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: for Kyler Murray.

821
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 10: We understand there's going to be a little bit of

822
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 10: a learning curve, a new system for him. He hasn't

823
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 10: taken a snap in this offense. So I like the

824
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 10: plan with kind of how we have its structure and

825
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 10: the work that he's been putting in in meetings, the

826
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 10: extra time spent in the morning and at night. I mean,

827
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 10: this guy's a competitor, so he's doing a lot to

828
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 10: get himself as mentally and physically ready as he's can.

829
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 10: Before that he goes out there and practices, but and

830
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 10: I really appreciate him for that because he puts the

831
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 10: work in.

832
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: I know that, and when he does return to practice,

833
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: it's not like he's going to play right away. He's

834
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: going to need a week, maybe even two weeks, maybe

835
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: even the full twenty one day window in order for

836
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: this team to realize. Okay, yes, Kyler Murray, you are

837
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: ready to be active and available on game day. But

838
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 3: it's something Paul, that we've been wondering about, questioning about,

839
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: well ever since December when he hurt the ACL keep.

840
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 6: Going to Jonathan Gannon because I don't have any answers

841
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 6: in terms of a timeline.

842
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

843
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 6: All I do know is when he gets back, it's

844
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: going to be a very different offense and he's going

845
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 6: to be under center a lot more than he has

846
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: in his NFL career. Nobody was in the gun last

847
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 6: year more than Kyler Murray. So now there's the word adapt,

848
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 6: the favorite word to Jonathan Gannon and this staff. So

849
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 6: how much different might this offense look upon the return

850
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 6: of the Kyler Murray. I don't know. But he's still

851
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 6: going to be under center a lot more and there's

852
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 6: god be more of the traditional run game which we've seen.

853
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 7: So what does that mean?

854
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: Not only is there the return physically mentally dealing with

855
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: the injury, but now adapting to the scheme. How comfortable

856
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 6: is he going to be both physically and mentally just

857
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 6: running and so you know, it's all about it's all

858
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 6: about decision making. If you're a quarterback, you can't be

859
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 6: out there thinking you've got to be reacting to be

860
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 6: lightning quick in your reads.

861
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's going to take time.

862
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: And so you never want to rush a guy back

863
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: too quickly, especially in a new system, new scheme, new

864
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: I mean everything as far as from a football schematics standpoint.

865
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 7: And then who knows how how really his kneed is

866
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 7: going to feel.

867
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: You know, he may be clear by the doctors, but

868
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: there's so many other hurdles that you have to get

869
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: over then to play football at an elite level. I mean,

870
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: I've been out on ir miss thirteen games and when

871
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: you come back, your body doesn't really remember how it

872
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Speaker 4: got hit, right, so you got to deal with getting hit.

873
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Speaker 7: How does that feel? How does it?

874
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Speaker 4: How does your knee feel after a game or practice

875
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 4: when you start taking up intensity right, because you you

876
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Speaker 4: don't want to expose a guy too early and you

877
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Speaker 4: end up having a significant setback as well.

878
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Speaker 7: And so all those.

879
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Speaker 4: Things they are you know, trying to analyze and examine

880
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Speaker 4: and assess, and it's an overlapping an intersection of like

881
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: those three things you just kind of mentioned. Party there

882
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 4: as far as when he can come back and be

883
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 4: positioned in the best way to go out there and

884
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Speaker 4: compete and really showcase what he can do.

885
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 6: All say is this is abject speculation. The way Jonathan

886
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 6: Gannon has answered the question this week is a little

887
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 6: bit different than he has in the past. It's more

888
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 6: of a we'll see than an automatic complete shutdown of

889
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: the question itself. So, if he does indeed get activated

890
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Speaker 6: this week and then he takes the full three weeks,

891
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Speaker 6: which I'm inclined to think he will, my timeline has

892
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 6: him debuting against the Atlanta Falcons at home next month.

893
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: There's also the possibility that twenty one day window expires.

894
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: You have to make a decision. You remain on POP

895
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: or they put you on the active Well, you can

896
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 3: make him inactive on game day if you're not quite

897
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: certain that Kyler is ready, because he's not going to

898
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: be your backup quarterback. If he's healthy enough to be

899
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: on the football field, he's going to start. The question

900
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: is is he going to be healthy enough to be

901
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: on the football field.

902
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 6: Okay, So now my Jay Sanders, if he's been released,

903
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 6: is that making room for a Kyler Murray? Well, of

904
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 6: course you don't have to activate him yet, he wouldn't

905
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 6: be to the federal three, that's right, Okay, So there

906
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't be a roster spot there all right. So okay,

907
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 6: so the theory there, I guess is moot. But at

908
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 6: some point you can't have seventeen outside linebackers if Kyler

909
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 6: Murray's going to be.

910
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: Activated, right, So somebody's going to have to obviously go.

911
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: And as a team that is trying to find talent,

912
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: you want to push that down the road as long

913
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 4: as possible so you can have the ability, right because

914
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: they're what one in five now, you know, postseason is

915
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: probably almost kind of out of their minds. So how

916
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: can we continue to develop our coach, to develop our

917
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 4: football team. Still rotate guys and like Steve Khin used

918
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: to do when he was here, right, get these guys

919
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: coming in and really build our football team. Because we

920
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Speaker 4: know somewhat what Kyler's capable of doing, obviously not in

921
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 4: this scheme, in this system, but let's push that down

922
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: the road because our objective really isn't to win the

923
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl this year. It's to develop culture, team chemistry,

924
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: and let's give him the longest runways possible so when

925
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: he comes back, we can get a true gauge of

926
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Speaker 4: what he can be in this offense with some time

927
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Speaker 4: and experience and maybe an offseason with it.

928
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Speaker 3: More likely that we see Buddha Baker have that practice

929
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Speaker 3: window opened this week. He's missed the past five games,

930
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 3: four weeks on IR with that hamstring injury. But just

931
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: watching him around the locker room, he's got a big

932
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: smile on his face. He seems to be moving fine.

933
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Speaker 3: And then this is Seattle week. I mean, he's from

934
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Speaker 3: the Pacific North, but he does not want to miss

935
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Speaker 3: this particular game going back home. My expectation is that, yeah, Boodhao,

936
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Speaker 3: not only will be he that practice window be opened,

937
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Speaker 3: He's not going to need a lot of practice. This

938
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Speaker 3: isn't Kyler Murray. Buddha did have a full training camp. Yeah,

939
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Speaker 3: so he is in football shape and we've seen a

940
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: high ankle spraying on Monday, all of a sudden, he's

941
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Speaker 3: on the practice field Friday, right in a game on Sunday.

942
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Boodha's built different. I mean Obviously he's a high

943
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 4: end all pro safety as well, and so will There's

944
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Speaker 4: always still, you know, a couple of plays here and

945
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: there where you have to get your eyes right and

946
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Speaker 4: your reaction time, but that for him is not going

947
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Speaker 4: to take a long time because of who he is

948
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Speaker 4: and how much experience he has doing it. And there's

949
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Speaker 4: nothing like playing a football game, but that to your point,

950
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: getting back to being elite is much easier as a

951
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: safety than trying to play quarterback when everybody's trying to

952
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: take your head off and my eyes is trying to

953
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: it's all about disrupting you. So hopefully he comes back.

954
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: That's a guy that will definitely help in that run

955
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: zone scheme as far as tackling, getting guys on the ground,

956
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: take potentially some of these big plays that the defensive

957
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: experience in the past game is well away, and this

958
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: gives them a better opportunity to win football games because again,

959
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: it always comes back to playing complimentary football right. Everybody

960
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: has to do their job, and we've kind of talked

961
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Speaker 4: about this, but the defense being able to keep the

962
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Speaker 4: score down, maybe make the Rams kick.

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Speaker 7: Some field goals.

964
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Speaker 4: They can still run the football right, stay fluid, right,

965
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Speaker 4: we talk about Dobbs.

966
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Speaker 7: He hits those touchdowns. Maybe it takes the Rams not

967
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Speaker 7: run the ball as much.

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Speaker 4: So there's a whole bunch of stuff by adding a

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Speaker 4: player like Budda Baker that can maybe help this football

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Speaker 4: team win a game from a systematic standpoint when you

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Speaker 4: look at it from a bird's eye view.

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Speaker 6: By the way, Seahawks just got Jamal Adams back talking

973
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Speaker 6: about all Pro safeties, played his first full game since

974
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Speaker 6: Week twelve, twenty twenty one, as he came back from injury,

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Speaker 6: and the last two weeks they've held their last two

976
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Speaker 6: opponents to under two hundred and fifty total yards. Last

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Speaker 6: time they did that in consecutive weeks was the Legion

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Speaker 6: of Boom Era twenty fifteen. So Seattle feels like it's

979
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Speaker 6: got its defense dialed in.

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Speaker 3: Seahawks three and two, coming off a loss at Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: they will host the Cardinals on Sunday one oh five

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Speaker 3: is the kickoff eight thirty Pregame coverage begins here on

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Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, and then we will talk

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Speaker 3: about it in One Week's Time special. Thanks behind the Scenes,

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Speaker 3: Jim A. Mahundro, Cody Fincher, Ali Narini for Lorenzo, Alexander,

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Speaker 3: paulk Alvic. I'm Craig Real Lou. This is the Arizona

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