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Speaker 1: And welcome back to Is this a great game? Or

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Speaker 1: what with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkchen. I'm his son,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kirchen, joined today by fellow Syracuse graduate AKA Me

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Speaker 1: and Jason Jason Bennetti on the podcast Major League Baseball Broadcaster. Jason,

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Speaker 1: you are back for your second run as a guest

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Speaker 1: here on the show, and trust me, we had one

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Speaker 1: hundred questions left on the cutting room floor the first

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Speaker 1: time we had you on, so I'm excited to have

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Speaker 1: you back.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm excited to be back. We had a great

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Speaker 2: time when I was up in Eugene, Oregon, I think

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Speaker 2: last time at the darkenest hotel room in the history

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Speaker 2: of America. So ready to rock with a well lit

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Speaker 2: although maybe a Grand Central station a traffic booth here

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Speaker 2: if we have a plast one thousand walk behind you

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Speaker 2: can just ask them questions as well as we set

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Speaker 2: up for the Tigers game tonight.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're not going to worry about that.

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Speaker 4: So Jason, we just found out that you just interviewed

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Speaker 4: Chad Smith of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. He's a drummer,

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Speaker 4: which I of course did not know since I know

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Speaker 4: nothing about music. For the longest time I thought Molly

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Speaker 4: Hatchett was a woman. There's so much I don't know here,

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Speaker 4: but please, Jason, tell me that you have a great

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Speaker 3: You know drummers, you know all this stuff. Am I

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm surrounded by either real drummers or fake drummers.

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Speaker 2: So Chad Smith is a Tigers fan. He grew up

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Speaker 2: Baskin Robbins vats of ice cream that they were throwing

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Speaker 2: no joke, Lincoln logs. And then one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: Tigers fans out there is JK. Simmons, the actor who

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Speaker 2: was Fantastic and Whiplage, where he very aggressively teaches somebody

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Speaker 2: how to play the drums. So I played the tuba

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Speaker 2: growing up. I never played the drums. But I do

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Speaker 2: think play by play in some ways is a little

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Speaker 2: bit like being a cover band, right, So you all

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Speaker 2: the lyrics are the same, swinging a ground ball to

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Speaker 2: So I think there is a little music in play

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Speaker 4: You played the tuba, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: At what age were you bigger than the tuba? Because

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Speaker 4: I know a little bit about being a little man.

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Speaker 4: I'm smaller than you, But was the tuba bigger than you?

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Speaker 2: For forty two years on Earth, actually the tuba has

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Speaker 2: The band director in high school is actually the guy

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Speaker 2: Because that's how I became a broadcaster is I couldn't

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Speaker 1: Listen, I don't want to go down a rabbit hole here,

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Speaker 1: And I'm just going to be quick because this interview

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Speaker 1: a production of Ragtime. And if you know the musical

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Speaker 1: by me. This was a very quick change for all

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Speaker 2: Here because there's.

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Speaker 1: No people in my assembly how are we gonna make

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Speaker 3: Where were the workers?

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Speaker 1: Henry Ford needs his workers? A very energetic director we had,

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Speaker 1: And I will never forget. It's too quick of a change.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that.

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Speaker 1: Just sent me back, Jason. I can't believe ragtime came

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, and it is. It's the most interstitial of

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Speaker 2: could lose that number. Speaking to on the car, it's

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Speaker 2: like it's like the jfk assassination in mad Men. It's

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Speaker 2: a nice touch. You don't have to have it right

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Speaker 2: you you were expendable, but if you're gonna do it,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have workers. It's the whole point. It's automation

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Speaker 1: See my people, Well here's my theory. That's the line.

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Speaker 1: See my people, you can't see them, they're not there, Dad.

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Speaker 1: This was the invention of the assembly line. The whole

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that was when I talk theater fails. That's

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Speaker 4: How is it possible Jesus that you know about Henry Ford?

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Speaker 4: How is it possible that you played the tuba? You

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Speaker 4: are a sports guy where it's amazing your depth of knowledge.

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Speaker 3: Am I giving you too much credit? Here?

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Speaker 2: The answer to that is always yes, anytime you're giving

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Speaker 2: where it comes from. Truly, I watched so many game

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Speaker 2: learned to read through Wheel of Fortune, So thanks Pat Jack.

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Speaker 2: I always love trivia and curiosities and like esoteric game

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Speaker 1: Right, And Dad, I have to say, I just apologize

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Speaker 1: because you're my father and you're my personal and professional hero.

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Speaker 1: But you always seem so surprised when people who are

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Speaker 1: any other interests or knowledge of anything but the sport

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Speaker 1: they love. Most people, dad have been more than more

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Speaker 1: to two concerts in their life. Right, most people have.

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Speaker 3: Been to three concerts? Right? And yeah, word made it?

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Speaker 1: Yellow Card, Kenny Chesney, You'll never see those straight on

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Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait did you say yellow Card? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, no joke, no joke.

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Speaker 2: I'm I kid you not. One of the members of

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Speaker 2: Yellowcard was with Chad Smith when we just interviewed him.

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Speaker 2: No Way, the guitarist from Yellow Card. I just met

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Speaker 2: him moments ago. I said to him, Hey, this must

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Speaker 3: That is so great.

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Speaker 4: So Yellow Card, Jason. I, my daughter Kelly, was in

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Speaker 3: I couldn't figure out anything. It was the worst.

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Speaker 4: It was one of the worst experiences of my life. However,

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Speaker 4: when Yellow Card went on, you should have seen those

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Speaker 3: It made it all worthwhile. It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: That's great great. I cannot believe. I cannot believe the

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Speaker 2: ven diagram here. I cannot believe.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, we are ten minutes into Jason Bennetti and

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Speaker 1: we've talked Ragtime, the musical, Yellow Card, and Chad and

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Speaker 1: the drummer from Red Hot. Are we ever going to

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Speaker 1: get to baseball?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not.

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Speaker 3: That's the beauty of We'll get to it in a minute.

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Speaker 3: So we have to go back to the game shows

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Speaker 4: We had Kevin Brown, the great Kevin Brown, on the

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Speaker 3: Oh I pulled it out of what a.

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Speaker 4: Great jeopardy player he is, Okay, and I believe it

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Speaker 4: because he is wicked smart. You have never been in

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Speaker 4: the same room with Kevin playing Jeopardy, I assume, is

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Speaker 2: No? I mean we did four years of minor league

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Speaker 2: Jeopardy for the audience on a nightly baseball. You want esoterica,

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Speaker 2: You want to not understand play by play. Listen to

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven to twenty fourteen Syracuse Chiefs Baseball. You want

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Speaker 2: something to fly over your head for a longer amount

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Speaker 2: of time than you can dream. Put us to behind

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Speaker 2: a microphone with triple A baseball, where like, whose line

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Speaker 4: That is so great We ask We asked Kevin Brown

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Speaker 4: on the podcast to do his Sean McDonough impersonation, and

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Speaker 4: he refused to do it because he said, I will

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Speaker 4: just sound like Jason Bennetti doing Sean McDonough. And he said,

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Speaker 4: the analogy, and that's how he came up with it's

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Speaker 4: four games over five hundred. That's what Mike Schure brings

437
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: to our show.

438
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Speaker 2: I can understand that because over time it's evolved to

439
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: just Frankenstein, but it was doctor Frankenstein's monster, but nobody

440
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: knows it as that, right, So I wonder how you

441
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: would I wonder what he would think about me saying

442
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: that the count isn't even at one and one.

443
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Speaker 4: Right, and explain, Jason, because I saw you did this

444
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 4: on Jason Stark and Doug Lambville's so explain. Look, I'm

445
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 4: a pedantic, little twit. I've made that clear on this

446
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: podcast many times.

447
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: Little things bother me.

448
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: I love baseball more than anything in the world, but

449
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: little things bug me. And but I've never even considered

450
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 4: that one until you brought it up.

451
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Speaker 3: Now, please explain. I love it.

452
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: Four balls, three strikes, So you start out as a

453
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: batter at a disadvantage in terms of balls and strikes.

454
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: For good reason, nobody wants to see three pitchwalks. But

455
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: if you're at one and one, you're two strikes away

456
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Speaker 2: from a strikeout, three balls away from a walk, that's

457
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: not even. There's nothing even about that. You are closer

458
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: to a strikeout than a walk. And so I don't

459
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Speaker 2: think the count is even at one and one. I

460
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: think the count is even at two and one.

461
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Speaker 1: I think the unfortunate truth is by the numbers, not

462
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: to poke holes in the theory is I mean, yes,

463
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: you're two away, but from percentages, it took you longer,

464
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, fifty percent away from a walk, and only

465
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: you know thirty three percent away from a strikeout. But

466
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: if you're two strikes and two walks away, I think

467
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Speaker 1: I I think I agree with you that you're you're

468
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: even because two pitches could put you on first base

469
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: or could send you back to the dugout. Two and

470
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Speaker 1: one is an even count, I think I agree. Does

471
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Speaker 1: that make three and two and even count?

472
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Three two is even. You know people are like, oh,

473
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: full count, payoff pitch, right, Well, doesn't the payoff pitch

474
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: come when the count is even? Nothing's paying off if

475
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Speaker 2: it's two and two. But it was like, oh even count, No,

476
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: there's no payoff.

477
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Speaker 4: This sounds something like we should ask Mike Sure the commissioner,

478
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: about and have him make a ruling for when Jason's

479
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Speaker 4: the week after Jason comes to agreed Jeff, Well.

480
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean we have enough time, you know, I could.

481
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: I could insert it, you know what, the magic of

482
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: podcasting without anybody knowing what he's going to say. Here's

483
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. I'm going to insert Mike Sure

484
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: right here, and then after I play it, we're all

485
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: going to react as if we just heard it. Ready.

486
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Speaker 1: Here's Mike Sure.

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Speaker 6: Hi, everyone, Mike Sure here the commissioner. This is a

488
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 6: very interesting question. Is the count even as per tradition

489
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Speaker 6: when the number of balls and strikes in the EBAT

490
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Speaker 6: is the same, A one in one count or a

491
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 6: two and two count, or because it requires four balls

492
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Speaker 6: or three strikes to end in a bat? Is the

493
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Speaker 6: count actually even when the number of balls is one

494
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Speaker 6: greater than the number of strikes A one and zero count,

495
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 6: two and one, three and two. Ordinarily, in issues like this,

496
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Speaker 6: I'm a sort of a pragmatist. I think, look, the

497
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 6: count is even when the numbers are even. That's generally

498
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 6: the way I break with these things. However, this is

499
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: bothered me since I was a kid. I remember thinking,

500
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 6: the count isn't even if it's two and two one

501
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 6: more strike. This guy's out and it requires two balls

502
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 6: to get him to first base. So it's going to

503
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 6: take a lot of work and a lot of patience.

504
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Speaker 6: But I think we can all come together as a

505
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Speaker 6: baseball community and declare that it's actually only an even

506
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 6: count when it's one more ball than there is strikes.

507
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Speaker 6: This is my ruling, and as always, my rulings are

508
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 6: final and there is no appeals process.

509
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: Wow.

510
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: What a brilliant right.

511
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: He just provided such insight that was incredible.

512
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: Right, Jason, you're right now, Mike sure has convinced me

513
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: that you are right.

514
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: Two and one is an even count. I'm seventy years old.

515
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: I never thought about that.

516
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Now if Mike says the opposite, we should do another

517
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: take where I get I get very angry, right, Mike,

518
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: and then swear off all of his television programs, And.

519
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: I just want the record set straight. I'm going to

520
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: run both of these, So let me just add in here.

521
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike for calling me as handsome as I am.

522
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: That's very sweet of you to say, just in Casey

523
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: says that, No, how dare you Mike? How dare you

524
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: never watching The Office again?

525
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? That Andy, he's too zany?

526
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Right, Oh my gosh, Well thank you, Mike. Sure whatever

527
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: you said was insightful and beautiful and we can't wait

528
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: to hear it when the episode airs.

529
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, all right.

530
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: So Jason, a couple a couple of little things that

531
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: bother me. Both are about like pitches and stuff like that.

532
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: It's always, it's always.

533
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Speaker 4: I've always wondered why you only unquirk two things in

534
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: the world. You uncork a bottle of champagne and a

535
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: wild pitch. Have you ever thought about that before? That

536
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: uncorked is never used except for those two examples. Is

537
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: that the dumbest thing you've ever heard.

538
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to uncork a theory here and think

539
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: undo this. Yeah, it is this. It is one of

540
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: the strange things. Dan Dickerson, the Tigers radio guy, and

541
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: I have a running list of phrases that are either

542
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: nonsense or we need the the origins of and we

543
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: we decided that the phrase I got half a mind

544
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: uh is only used in one instance. Usually it's immediately

545
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: followed by a threat of battery. Nobody's ever right I

546
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: got half of mine to buy you a tray of brownies.

547
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: It's always like I got a half a mind to

548
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: slap you, but like I got a half of mind

549
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: to beat you up. Nobody ever has half a mind

550
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: to get you a gift for Christmas?

551
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: Right, good point, Nation, You're absolutely right, So give give

552
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: me something else that you and Dan go back and

553
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: forth on, because I I have a one thing that

554
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: always has bothered me is when somebody gets hit by

555
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: a pitch, they say he got beaned, he got hit

556
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: in the leg, he got beaned in the leg. I

557
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: always thought, and I will always think, that you get

558
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: bean only when you get hit in the head, because

559
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: this is called the bean You can't get beaned in

560
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: the leg by a pitch.

561
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: Am I right or wrong?

562
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: No, your head is your bean. It's destroying the origin

563
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: of the phrase. Yeah, that's that's like getting a shinburger

564
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: in your chin. It's not gonna happen. The other one

565
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: we were talking about today was the word uncouth. Few

566
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: people use kuth but everything we all know what isn't kuth,

567
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: But we're just circling around what is kuth by negating

568
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: thing because they're not kuth enough. We know what kuth isn't.

569
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Speaker 1: It's a good point.

570
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: And Jason, no, it's we do that all the time.

571
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: You're You're absolutely right.

572
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: One thing, Jason, that's uncouth, this is unrue, that's untrue.

573
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Show me something that's coothing.

574
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: The quick, Jason. One thing I brought up to my

575
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: dad for years that I I don't know why it

576
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: irks my nerves so much, but when when broadcasters, you know, analysts,

577
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, say they have the best home

578
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: run hitter in Kyle Schwarber, when I look at it,

579
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: you should just say they have the best home run

580
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: hitter Kyle Schwarber. We don't need to add the inn.

581
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: It's unnecessary to me, right.

582
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: Do you ever watch. Do you ever watch teenage Mutant

583
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: Ninja Turtles, Jeff when you're growing up?

584
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

585
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was the little brain guy crying right. He

586
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: was he was the mastermind of all the evil plots.

587
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: But he had a he had a human suit that

588
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: he would sit and sort of like the torso of

589
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: and he'd run the levers of the very large robo

590
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: human that he was in charge up. That's actually what's

591
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: going on when we use that, we're being very specific.

592
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: There is a tiny brain inside of Kyle Schwarber that

593
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: is in sort of the Manchurian candidate sense joysticking the

594
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: powerhouse that is the left handed tormentor of Major League baseballs.

595
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: There is a home run hitter in Kyle Schwarber, right,

596
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: right time, right.

597
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: So, Jason, give us something. Give us something that you

598
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: really stink at. Your great at game shows, you're great

599
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: at trivia, you're great at broadcasting. Give us something that

600
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: you don't know anything about, Like, I don't know anything

601
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: about everything except for baseball, basketball, and sitcoms from the sixties.

602
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: Give me something out there that most people know that

603
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 4: you just don't know anything about.

604
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. I navigate the world and I have

605
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: no idea how to walk straight. No, I uh the

606
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: thing that I the thing that I wish I knew

607
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: much more about. And I'm a foodie. But if you

608
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: put me in the Chopped kitchen and said here are

609
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: all the ingredients, make anything, I would make nothing that

610
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: tasted good.

611
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 5: Love.

612
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: I love the idea of cooking. I've watched every episode

613
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: of The Bear. I really enjoyed Chopped. I like a

614
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: good meal. I'm happy to have a great restaurant in

615
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: every city. I don't know how to cook. I don't

616
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: and I wish I did, and it's terrible.

617
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 4: Well, I do all the cooking at our house, Jason,

618
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: believe me, we pray after we.

619
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Speaker 3: Eat at my house.

620
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: That's how bad I am.

621
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: But Jason, you can get better at this, because I

622
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: stink at it still.

623
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: But I've gotten better.

624
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 4: So you're telling me you're a bad cook, and you've

625
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: actually tried to do it.

626
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: So I'm not even just a bad cook. I'm just

627
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: a non cook whenever I try like so. So, when

628
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: I was in law school, I decided that I was

629
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: going to make like couscous out of a box before

630
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 2: I had people over for poker, and instead, instead of butter.

631
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: I used olive oil and put it in the microwave,

632
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: and I got to tell you, olive oil seems to

633
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: be some sort of I didn't get a great grade

634
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: in physics, but olive oil seems to be some sort

635
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: of electroconductor of something that happened in that microwave, because

636
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: immediately it fried the microwave. It was out on my

637
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: porch in the back within twenty minutes of me trying

638
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: to do this, And when everybody came over to play poker,

639
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: it smelled like tire in my living room, like I

640
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: tried to make. I tried to make boxed rice and failed.

641
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: So that was uncouth tooth?

642
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying is that, yes, Tim, Yes,

643
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: all right.

644
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: We have to switch subjects again.

645
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you know Jason, but Jeffrey

646
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: was auto the Orange for four years at Syracuse. We

647
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: paid fifty thousand dollars a year for him to go

648
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: to school and he ran around in that little orange

649
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: suit for.

650
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: Four years and he loved it.

651
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: And he was, believe it or not, a Division one athlete,

652
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: and a lot of his personality came from that. You

653
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: must have had a run in somewhere with a mascot

654
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: somewhere along line, because we all have, especially little guys

655
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 4: like you and me, seem to get in more trouble

656
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: with mascots than the rest is any as a mascot ever, Like,

657
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: give us a favorite mascot story.

658
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna love this. You're really gonna love this, and

659
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of those where you laugh in

660
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: the background and then they cut to your reaction because

661
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: it's very baseball like that, exactly like that. So the

662
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: one thing I can eat is shellfish. I have a

663
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: shellfish allergy. It's not for cross pollination, cross contamination. It's

664
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: just if I eat klamario, I'll have a reaction. So

665
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: Alex Cora was in his first game as an ESPN

666
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: Baseball analyst on the major league Baseball side. He had

667
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: done like little league, junior league. We did a junior

668
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: league final up in Bangor Main once. But his first

669
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: ever game as an analyst was in the booth with me.

670
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: I think it was Andy Jacobson producing in Baltimore. It

671
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: was Boston and Baltimore. So they decide that for his

672
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: first game, the oriole bird is going to come up

673
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: to the booth with a certificate or a sign that

674
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: says Alex's first game as a major league analyst. Very

675
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: nice gesture, you know, al east Thowd rivalry. The oriol

676
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: Bird comes up with the sign and a big boat

677
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: of crab fries, and so Alex is like, why don't

678
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: you have one? And I was like, oh, okay, And

679
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: then I had and I was like, wait a secon,

680
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: what's that seasoning? And they said, oh, it's crab fries.

681
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, Alex, you almost did the

682
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: game on your own. The oriole Bird, as the story goes,

683
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: was trying to kill me Allah Professor Plumber Conservatory with

684
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: the fight with the crab fries. With the crab fries.

685
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's incredible. Jason, I did a stand

686
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: up at in Philadelphia. This is fifteen years ago, and

687
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: the Philly Fanatic this is before the game, this is

688
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: the open to the game on the sideline reporters. So

689
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: we go from Sean McDonough and Sut and.

690
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: Booty in the booth and throw it down to me.

691
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: And I'm doing a stand up in Philadelphia and the

692
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: fanatic comes up right next to me. He gets down

693
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: on his knees so he's my height and he's got

694
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: he pretends to be like the shortest guy on the field,

695
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to concentrate on doing the open and

696
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 4: there is the fanatic on his knees. I just burst

697
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: into laughter. It completely ruined the open and it was hilariously.

698
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Funny, phenomenal the fanatic, I would say, the Fanatic. And

699
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: now Orbit in Houston. I think Orbit does a great

700
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: job as well. If we're gonna do mascot rankings or

701
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: anything like it, or Orbit has done a really nice

702
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: job of going to the top of the pantheon of mascots.

703
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm sorry for all the short jokes that

704
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: have happened, and I'm sorry to have contributed that time before,

705
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: you know, before the Yankees finished their night that night.

706
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, right, Jeff, If you don't remember, I did

707
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: a Little League every year for ten years, and one

708
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 4: year they somebody actually looked up that fifty two percent

709
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 4: of the players in the Little League World Series.

710
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: That year were taller than me.

711
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 4: So I just left the Little League World Series go

712
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 4: to a game in New York, first game I've ever

713
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: done with knucklehead Jason Bennetti, and I explained this on

714
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: the air fifty two percent, and he said.

715
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: I was a little low to me. That's what he said.

716
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: Ah, so bad, And I said and then what did

717
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: I say after that?

718
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: Well, you laugh for like three minutes and I love you.

719
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: And that was your your notebook too, write this notebook everywhere.

720
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 3: Right everywhere I go and get this, Jason.

721
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: At the same Little League World Series I showed, Todd

722
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 4: Fraser asked me how to use Tell me about your notebook?

723
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 4: Why do you use it this way? Why do you

724
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: use it that way? And the next day he shows

725
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: up and he's got one of my notebooks and he's

726
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: taken notes.

727
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: Like I am. How about that?

728
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 4: A major league player asked for my input on how

729
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: to use a notebook and the next day he was

730
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: using it just like I do.

731
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: So I assume it sounded something like your big dog.

732
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: What's in that notebook? Big dog?

733
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 4: For an entire broadcast on a Little League World Series,

734
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 4: you called me big dog, And I'm thinking, no person

735
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: on earth you should be called big dog.

736
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: Less than me, because that's ridiculous.

737
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Todd Fraser's the biggest twelve year old of all.

738
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: Time, still, Jason, after all these years, it is.

739
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: So two things about Todd Fraser. Number One, this is

740
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: nothing against any other play by play announcer that's ever

741
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: been created. But I don't know that there's more joy

742
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: in a booth than when you Todd Fraser and Mike

743
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Monaco are all together doing the Little League stuff. It

744
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: is nonsense and it's hilarious. And then two, when Todd

745
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: Fraser was with the White Sox in twenty sixteen, they

746
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: had a fans beanbag tournament like a cornhole tournament where

747
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 2: you could pair up, and they had a big bracket

748
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: for White Sox fans. So Fraser and I entered and

749
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: they did They did like a video bit about it,

750
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: and the whole time he was just yelling at me

751
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: for not landingback. Come on, j Z, what are you doing.

752
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: That?

753
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: Jason.

754
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why I get such a kick out

755
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: of this. But Todd Fraser shares a birthday with.

756
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln, and.

757
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: Just the thought of Todd Fraser and Abraham Lincoln have

758
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: the same birthday, he goes like.

759
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: This, me and honest day, same day, the same same birthday, like.

760
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: Me, you know four score? You know we got four?

761
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: They got two?

762
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

763
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: Herb score eighty years ago yeah, I didn't know that.

764
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: That is so marvel. I just I picture Todd in

765
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: the hat and the beard, you know, I mean to

766
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: be honest, like he married Todd Lincoln Todd Frasier. There's

767
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: something going on there.

768
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: Mary Todd Frasier. I mean, it all works out, it

769
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: all makes its way. It's like seven degrees of Kevin Bacon.

770
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: It will get there eventually.

771
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: Well, Jeff, we do a lot of stupid things on

772
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: this podcast, but this has been forty five minutes of

773
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 4: complete lunacy here with Jason Bennetti.

774
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you one.

775
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: Baseball question before before we have to let you go here,

776
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: even though we would love to keep you for five

777
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: more hours. So, Jason, what has it been like on

778
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: Sunday night when you are getting sometimes two different analysts

779
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 4: that you've never worked with before, and you make it

780
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: work so easily.

781
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: And I know you could.

782
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: Do anything, but it has to be a challenge to

783
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: figure out, Hey, I've never done a game with this guy,

784
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: and now I am what has that been like.

785
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: It's honestly, it's one of the joys of my career. Tim.

786
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: I really love spontaneity. I've learned to love it. Even

787
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: more because of the late great Bill Walton. I love

788
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: that man so much and how much he meant to

789
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: my career. Is inescapable he you know, he always number

790
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: one wanted to have the music on. That was his

791
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: advice always to me and to so many others. Just

792
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: always have the music on, have something playing. And his

793
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: mind was so vivid. But he also didn't want to

794
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: talk to you before the game. He wanted to go

795
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: on the air, and he wanted to in the moment

796
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: do whatever it was. You know, he wanted to live

797
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: it the way it was going to be, in the

798
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: most spontaneous form. And it has been an absolute blast

799
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: to watch people come together over baseball, like conversations in

800
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: the booth that happened that you never I never would

801
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: have expected based on the people we have and the

802
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: questions that get asked. I just is it is like

803
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: I imagine Hall of Fame week and at Cooperstown, where

804
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: everybody is sitting around and talking and sharing stories. But

805
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: we're watching the game and doing this game as well,

806
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: and we're evolving like it's only going to get better.

807
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: But it does feel a little bit like an oblique

808
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: version of SNL, which has always tickled my fancy. You know,

809
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: they have table reads and they have writers' rooms and

810
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and we have our production crew and

811
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: then two people show up and then a third one downstairs,

812
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: and it's all like guest hosts. But if we do

813
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: it right, anybody should be comfortable doing it. And I

814
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: think that if people say that baseball is a common

815
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: language that you can speak, I think this show proves that.

816
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: Then a game breaks out, multiple people who care about

817
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: the sport are talking about it, and it just works.

818
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: And I think it works because of the universe universality

819
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: of baseball as a land.

820
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: Which Jason, I'm repeating you though, But isn't this what

821
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: makes baseball so beautiful is you just show up and

822
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: suddenly that it works because everyone has the shared love

823
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: of the game. Doesn't matter where you're from, or how

824
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: tall you are, how short you are, if you love

825
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 4: the game, it's all gonna work. Right.

826
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because I do. I When

827
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: I think about it like that, Tim, I feel like

828
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: I'm being a little soupy because I'm part of this show.

829
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: But I would love this show even if I wasn't

830
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: part of this show because of exactly that because the

831
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: love for baseball Number one. NBC has such a rich

832
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: history of doing the game and caring about the history

833
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball and this day in baseball that

834
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: we do most weeks, and the baseball cards they put

835
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: up of guys who played for both teams and the

836
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: game that we're doing. But the game itself has this

837
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: richness and this beauty, and part of the beauty is

838
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: see it from a different angle and still love it.

839
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: Even if you're the type of person who talks about

840
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 2: no hitters like I am, and Roger Clemens is sitting

841
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: next to you, thinking, if only there wasn't this microphone

842
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: in this camera, I would have half a mind to

843
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: swat at this guy for talking about no hitters, you know,

844
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: he he he said, in the middle of sunny is

845
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: seven and a third no hit possibility. He said to

846
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Middlebrooks and me, Will Middlebrooks, he goes, can you guys

847
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: just move your chairs away from me? And that's great.

848
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: It's great that he didn't want to be any part

849
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: of somebody talking about a no hitter as it's happening,

850
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: and he just he was furious. Under the surface, it

851
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: was great, But that's the thing you can you watch

852
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: a game with somebody, there's this commonality of the love

853
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: for the game. He knows what I'm doing, I know

854
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: what he's doing. And nobody took a swing at each other, thankfully,

855
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: because I would have not made it to the end

856
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: of the night.

857
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: We got to go back to Bill Walton for one second. Here.

858
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure I told you this story, Jason, but I

859
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 4: met Bill Walton at an ESPN like get together where

860
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: all the analysts and all the TV guys were there.

861
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: So I go up to Bill Walton and I don't

862
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: have the courage. I'm so afraid because he's Bill Walton

863
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: and I grew up watching him.

864
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: He's the greatest.

865
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: College basketball player other than Luel Cinder I've ever seen.

866
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: So I go up to him, and I'd had a

867
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: couple of beers. That's the only way I could go

868
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: up to him. And I said, Bill, my whole gold

869
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 4: in life is to play at a pick up basketball game

870
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: with you and Larry Bird, Like that would be the

871
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: greatest thing ever because you would be the two greatest

872
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: teammates in the history, especially for a dinky little point

873
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 4: guard like me. So he looks right at me and

874
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: he says well, now that you're off the San Francisco

875
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 4: Giants beat, maybe.

876
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: We can arrange that.

877
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 5: So here, he got me mixed up with the late

878
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 5: Pedro Goldbez.

879
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: He thought it was Pedro Goldman, So I told him no.

880
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: I told him this story, like I'm really I'm really

881
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: putting myself out there to go talk to him, and

882
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: he thinks I'm somebody else.

883
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: Oh wow, what Yeah? That Bill.

884
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: It was a brilliant man and a brilliant broadcaster and

885
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: a repeat one of the greatest basketball players I've ever seen.

886
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: But he thought I was somebody else and I left it.

887
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: All I could do was just laugh out loud, like,

888
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: oh my god, I bared my soul and I want

889
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: I want to feed him in the low post that

890
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: he doesn't even.

891
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: Know what my name is.

892
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: That's phenomenal. Oh my gosh, that's phenomenal. Oh my god.

893
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: So, Jason, is there a moment in addition to the

894
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Clemens moment that you've had in the booth. You know,

895
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: it's such a great concept that you guys have going

896
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: on there in that booth. I love it, you know,

897
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: representatives from both teams and it's just it's special. It's

898
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: really really special. Tell us a little bit, you know,

899
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: about the players you've come across, sat next to, played with,

900
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: or you know, done a game with stories that have really,

901
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, made a difference.

902
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: In your mind. Yeah.

903
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's every week there's something new, there's

904
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 2: something random that comes up. I mean, you know, Dan

905
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: Petrie and Mike Bassett did a Tiger's Rangers game and

906
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: they're from different generations, and randomly Dan Petrie started talking

907
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: about this guy, Bill Fahey. Tim you might remember Bill fa.

908
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: Remember Bill Catcher, of course, yes, Yeah.

909
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: So Dan mentions Bill Fahey and Mike Bassett on the

910
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: air looks at him like, how do you know Bill Fahey,

911
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: and Mike goes, yeah, I grew up knowing Bill Fahee's kids.

912
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: So they have this mutual friend that they had no

913
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: idea they were going to have, and they're having this

914
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: really cool moment where baseball is connecting both of them

915
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 2: and they talked for a couple of pictures about Bill

916
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: Fahee and actually, Dan when we were down in Texas

917
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: recently had lunch with Bill and hung out at his

918
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: house and they rekindled you know, it was very nice.

919
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: But in the middle of this conversation Rizzo jumps in.

920
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Rizzo is downstairs doing the inside of the pitch thing.

921
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: He goes, you guys are old, great perfect. The other

922
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: one that was that was really funny was John Cruck,

923
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: who you know. John Kruck gets this reputation for being

924
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: zany and off the wall and saying weird stuff with it.

925
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: He's a great baseball analyst. I think John is fantastic

926
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: at the job. And he you know, there's all the

927
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: catch for you know whatever, right the wild sort of

928
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Bill Walton, this is John Kruck. We have an SNL

929
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: promo in the game we did in April. It was C.

930
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: J at Kowski, John Cruck and Rizzo and I and

931
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: there's a Saturday Night Live promo And I say, hey, John,

932
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: weren't you on Saturday Night Live ones mistakenly remembering Chris

933
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: Farley playing John Cruck on Weekend up Right, No harm,

934
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: no foul. He goes, I've never seen it. And I said, well, what,

935
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: it's Saturday Night Live. You had to have seen it.

936
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: He goes, I don't know.

937
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: I don't know.

938
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't know comedy.

939
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 5: I don't know.

940
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: He goes, you know what I do like? I like?

941
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: There are two newscasters that share jokes and they write

942
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: jokes for each other on the web. There and I go,

943
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 2: that's Michael, Jay and Colin jokes on Weekend Update on

944
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live.

945
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: He said he's never seen it before.

946
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: And then he's a referenced. This is a huge bit

947
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: that's become famous in the last five six years. Every

948
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: year they do it on their final show.

949
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's exactly right. It's like him saying, you

950
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: know what, I've never seen that twenty four. But there's

951
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: this crime fighter Jack Bauer, who I really enjoyed.

952
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 3: Well, Jason.

953
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: When you talk about connecting, that's the beauty of baseball.

954
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: They're connections everywhere.

955
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: I want to ask John Kruck when we were going

956
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: to see the Marlins on the bus tour at ESPN,

957
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: I said, do you know, have you ever met Edwin Rodriguez,

958
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: who was the manager of the Marlins, brand new to

959
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: the team. So he goes, yeah, I played with him

960
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: in winter ball. That's always the answer. You know, oh,

961
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: I play he was a teammate of winter ball, or

962
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: I played with him at Bakersfield. They're always connected one

963
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: way or another. So he tells the story, this is

964
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: gruesome but Edwin Rodriguez got hit by a pitch in

965
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 4: the mouth in a game, and he's on the ground

966
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: at home plate. Blood is everywhere and he's on his knees.

967
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 4: Jose de Leone, the first base coach, comes running in

968
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: to see if Edwin Rodriguez is okay, and Jose d

969
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 4: Leone sees this crucive sight and he faints on the

970
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 4: field and they bring an ambulance and they take Jose

971
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: de Leone away in the ambulance and not Edward Rodriguez,

972
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: who got hit in the mouth with a That's the

973
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 4: story Kruk, he told me when I asked him, do

974
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: you know Edward and Rodriguez? This is the beauty of

975
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: Kruoky and the beauty of baseball. You ask just a

976
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 4: simple question, do you know this guy? And that's the

977
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: answer that you get. Oh, it's just the most beautiful.

978
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 4: It's the most beautiful sport in the world.

979
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: It's NonStop connectivity. And can I make one more connection

980
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: before we go. I've been asking about you. I've been

981
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: thinking about your laugh, tim Uh, and the spontaneity of

982
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: your laugh, and I've been trying to place it. Did

983
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: you ever watch the TV show soap.

984
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: Yes I did. Was not one of my favorites, but

985
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: I know the show.

986
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: Okay.

987
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: So there's a character Chuck and Bob, and it's a

988
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: ventriloquist act. So Chuck is the human Bob is the

989
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: ventriloquist dummy. And there's a time when Danny's daughter gets

990
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: gets kidnapped, and every time Bob thinks about little Wendy,

991
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: he goes into like this raucous crying fit Bob does

992
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: and he's like, Oh, I just misser.

993
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: Wenny, Wenny, Wendy, Wendy, whnny.

994
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: That's what I The sponsaneity of your laugh sounds like

995
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: when Bob goes into that fit about Wendy. It is

996
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: one of the greatest characters of all time because all

997
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: of the regular characters on soap, because Chuck is so

998
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: good at it, start talking to Bob the dump. They

999
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: do a bit where Bob is blindfolded and he's guessing

1000
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: what other people are holding. So the dummy has a

1001
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: blindfold on and they're holding an apple and they go

1002
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: watch watch Bob will be able to guess what it is,

1003
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: and he goes.

1004
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: It's round and it's red.

1005
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: It's an apple, and I think it sounds a little

1006
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: bit too much like your lap, tim.

1007
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: Oh god, that is so bad. All right, I can't

1008
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: leave without this.

1009
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: So Daniel Herrera pitched in the major leagues for several years,

1010
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: like five to seven, weigh one hundred and forty pounds.

1011
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: He's the littlest picture I think I've ever seen.

1012
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: And I asked him once, you know, guys make fun

1013
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: of you and stuff like that.

1014
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: He goes, Yeah.

1015
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: In the minor leagues, we had a bullpen coach who

1016
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: used to put me on his lap and put his

1017
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 4: hand up the back of my jersey and he would

1018
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: do a ventriloquist act where I was the dummies sitting

1019
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 4: on his lap because.

1020
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 3: I was so much smaller than him.

1021
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: Albert Covina was the bullpen catcher, coach or whatever.

1022
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 3: How about that?

1023
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: That's amazing. That is the quintessential baseball story, isn't it.

1024
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god, of course, all you gotta do is,

1025
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: as Daniel rrare, what's your funniest little guy story?

1026
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: And that's what you get.

1027
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: They put him on his lap and pretended he was

1028
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 4: a vitriloquius fact. Oh god, all right, Jason's got a

1029
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: call him major league game tonight. And we haven't talked

1030
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 4: baseball for more than fifteen seconds. I'm sorry, Jason, but

1031
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you so much for making us laugh

1032
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 4: like this.

1033
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 2: Thank you for making me laugh just like this too.

1034
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure.

1035
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: Guy Jason from is this a great game or what?

1036
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Just shoot me a text with your address will pass

1037
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: you along. A rice cooker makes life so much easier.

1038
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: You won't ever have to worry.

1039
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. I'll present

1040
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: it to Ben Rice when we have the anchor.

1041
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 4: How about what Max Freed pitched to Ben Rice when

1042
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: he caught her that time with the battery?

1043
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: Was Fried Rice to me, Come on, this can it

1044
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: can't happen.

1045
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: It can happen, but only in baseball. This is what

1046
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 4: we live for, is what we do for a living. Gosh,

1047
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna go back and listen to Kevin Brown

1048
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 4: and Jason Bennetti doing the Syracuse Chiefs game from eleven

1049
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: to fourteen.

1050
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: That must have been a complete riot.

1051
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: The whole time we play. We used to play a

1052
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: game called where are the Parents, where there would just

1053
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: be ferial children running around and we narrate what they're

1054
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: doing without adult supervision.

1055
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: In the stands, Meet the parents, Where are the parents?

1056
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Jason call a major league baseball game.

1057
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining our little podcast yet again.

1058
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: Flag to