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Speaker 2: new poll question today and more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: as well. Once again, Bill Cower will stop by the

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Speaker 2: Steelers exit stage left. But it's more than just that.

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Speaker 2: It's the future of Aaron Rodgers, the future of Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: and we spend a lot of time in the first

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Speaker 2: hour talking about Aaron Rodgers won't have options, He may

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Speaker 2: not even have the option of coming back to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Unrestricted free agent Mike Tomlin will have options He'll have

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Speaker 2: a lot of options. Is Pittsburgh one of those options?

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Speaker 2: And does he hold those cards that if he wants

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Speaker 2: to come back he can coach again next year in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: If he wants to do TV, he will have ample

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Speaker 2: opportunities to do that as well. I don't see him

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Speaker 2: coaching another team next year, but I do see him

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Speaker 2: coaching Pittsburgh again, And if not, then he'll be in TV.

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Speaker 2: All right, Satan, pull question from our one. Let's clean

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Speaker 2: up the results on that, and what are we going

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Speaker 2: to go with our two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had two of them up there. Has Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers played his last game?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Or no?

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Speaker 3: Eighty two percent say yes? And has Mike Tomlin coached

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Speaker 3: his last game with the Steelers? That's fifty to fifty

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Speaker 3: fifty point ones say no.

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Speaker 2: It's about as close as you can get. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: hope he still coach. He's a great coach. And I

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Speaker 2: say this all the time. When you want change, who

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Speaker 2: were you bringing in? Remember when Steeler fans couldn't stand

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Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator? You brought in another offensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 2: you want to bring in another offensive coordinator. You can

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Speaker 2: have change, but you have to have correct change. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know how we say all the time, like not

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Speaker 3: every coordinator is a head coach. Yes, and you know

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Speaker 3: some people go up and're like, man, you're not. It's

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Speaker 3: a totally different job. Where Mike Tomlin's a head coach. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he's not a coordinator. It's like Mike McDonald is. Mike

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Speaker 3: McDaniels is not a head coach. I thought he was

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Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator. Yeah, he might be, And I could

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Speaker 3: see him if he went to Detroit. That's that's the

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Speaker 3: kind of offensive coordinator you want who's not getting another

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Speaker 3: head coaching job.

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Speaker 2: And there was a report that they were interviewing or

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Speaker 2: willing to interview with Detroit. I think that would be

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Speaker 2: a wonderful hire for the Lions because when you get

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Speaker 2: these coordinators, they want to be a head coach. But

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Speaker 2: not everybody should be a head coach because it takes

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Speaker 2: away from what you did really well, you're really good

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Speaker 2: at this. Now you've got to be really good at all,

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Speaker 2: or at least you have to be good, not great,

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Speaker 2: at all of this. When you become a head coach.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be overseeing the defense, special teams, offense, salary,

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Speaker 2: cap all of this stuff. Draft sometimes when you go,

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Speaker 2: all I have to do is worry about the offense.

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Speaker 2: And if that's what you said that Mike McDaniel was

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Speaker 2: going to be doing, I think with Detroit would be awesome, Yes, Marvin, But.

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Speaker 5: How do you know if somebody's not a head coach

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Speaker 5: or not if you don't give them the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I have to know about your personality, right, Like there's

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Speaker 2: certain guys that when they go in they command a room.

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Speaker 2: Now it might not be fair, but you are. You're

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Speaker 2: the CEO, you're the face of the franchise. When you're

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Speaker 2: at these press conferences, you're meeting with the media, you're performing.

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Speaker 2: And they're guys who like Charlie Weiss, I didn't think

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Speaker 2: he was a head coach. Josh McDaniels, I didn't think

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Speaker 2: he was a head coach. But these are really like

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame worthy coordinators. But you know what, I

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Speaker 2: never thought Bill Belichick was going to be a great

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Speaker 2: coach because I didn't think he had the personality to

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Speaker 2: be a great coach to connect with people. But he

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Speaker 2: became the greatest NFL coach of all time. Nick Saban.

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Speaker 2: The more I was around him, the more I understood

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Speaker 2: why he became a great coach. Mike Krzyzewski, the more

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Speaker 2: you're around him, the more you realize why you became

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Speaker 2: a great coach. And you know you command a room,

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Speaker 2: You're you know, talking, You got to connect with players.

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Speaker 2: It's it's running a company. You got to meet with

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Speaker 2: the media. You got to put up with us, big plays,

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Speaker 2: big moments. Now it's on you to make the call. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I put the offense in place, what is the call? Coach?

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Speaker 2: It's just different. And I've seen this so many times

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Speaker 2: where I want somebody to get that opportunity. I'd hate

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Speaker 2: to be in a position where there's a glass ceiling

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Speaker 2: and I didn't get that opportunity. It's I got him gaze.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he was a head coach, you know,

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Speaker 2: Robert sala I thought was gonna be a good head coach.

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Speaker 2: I did Liam Cohane. I don't know enough about don't

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Speaker 2: know enough about his personality. I knew he did a

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Speaker 2: great job in Tampa. But because you turned Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: around doesn't mean you're gonna be a great coach.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marv, but Robert Salad was the coach of the Jets.

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Speaker 5: That's a moch You got to give him another shot.

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Speaker 5: Vince Lombardi could have taken over that Jets team. It

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Speaker 5: would have been gone in two years.

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Speaker 2: Sala look like a head coach, Yes, okay, there's certain

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Speaker 2: guys that look like a head coach. He got a

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Speaker 2: great skull, you know, he just he had everything. He

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Speaker 2: still head coachy. He still had Coachy for sure, head coachy.

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Speaker 2: He said, coachy. Yeah, all right, we'll get phone calls

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Speaker 2: coming up. Of course, the situation with the Steelers is fluid.

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Speaker 2: As they like to say, when when do you need

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Speaker 2: answers from h Well, you start with Mike Tomlin. Then

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Speaker 2: do they know what their answer already is? On Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers and I you know, there was there was a

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Speaker 2: fumble and Aaron Rodgers was down on the ground and

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Speaker 2: then he's kind of getting back up, and it just

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Speaker 2: felt like in that moment, if I had a thought,

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Speaker 2: Bubble Rogers would be like, why am I doing this?

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Speaker 2: What I mean, I wake up after a nap and

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Speaker 2: have more energy getting up than Aaron Rodgers. It was

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Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, I get older and they

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Speaker 2: get younger. Was that dazed and confused. Every year I

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Speaker 2: get older, they stayed the same as. Yes, that's Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: These young guys coming in, man, and they are coming

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Speaker 2: at you. He just not the guy that he used

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Speaker 2: to be. And you know we can't expect him to

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Speaker 2: be that. All right, we'll get phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there was a report yesterday on the

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Speaker 2: mother Ship and it had to do with the college

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Speaker 2: football playoff situation. And are we now it's a week

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Speaker 2: from this Friday that they're going to be deciding if

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Speaker 2: they're moving to sixteen games. Now, I told you six

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, you know what they were. There were strong

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Speaker 2: consideration for going to sixteen. I did say there's a

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Speaker 2: caveat of the Big Ten wants to go to twenty

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Speaker 2: four teams. So I told that to you six weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Nothing has changed. The Big Ten's push to go to

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Speaker 2: twenty four remains the sole stumbling block for all of this.

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Speaker 2: If the now this is from my source, if the

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Speaker 2: SEC and Big Ten can't agree, we will stay at

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Speaker 2: twelve teams next year. And nobody has any interest in

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Speaker 2: that result, which means, in the world of college athletics,

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Speaker 2: it's possible they stay at twelve and then he adds

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Speaker 2: college athletics the prow Daily Study of dysfunction. Here was

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Speaker 2: something that happened with Mike McDaniel. He's in the middle

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Speaker 2: of talking to players, so this was when he was

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Speaker 2: coaching the Dolphins at the end of the season. He's

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Speaker 2: doing exit interviews with players. This is last Thursday. The

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Speaker 2: owner interrupted the interview with this player or players to

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Speaker 2: fire him. Wow, well that seems like John Harball's available.

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Speaker 2: You're fired, Like, can't you wait till the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. Maybe he is going to interview another player. Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you don't need to interview players anymore. Okay, you're you're

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Speaker 2: You're fired. So I just got this information. Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 2: was in the middle of a player exit interview last

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Speaker 2: Thursday when owner Steven Ross interrupted him to fire him.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, imagine you're the middle linebacker in the room,

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Speaker 4: you have twenty five and and the guy walks in.

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Speaker 4: The owner goes, you don't have to call him coach anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just call him. Mike called Michael just yes, Marmay,

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Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt, not sorry to interrupt. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt. I get your swipe card.

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Speaker 3: Mike, Hey, uh, sorry interrupt fellas. Uh can I get

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Speaker 3: you for a second?

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'd like to be referred to as coach. Oh

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Speaker 2: not anymore? Not anymore? Is that how you talk? Kind

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Speaker 2: of like it does. There's a little bit of that

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Speaker 2: Napoleon dynamite kind of and Steve Nash that I don't

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Speaker 2: like life on Mars.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: This is a prime example why the Dolphins need to

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Speaker 5: be in the same category as the Jets and the

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Speaker 5: Browns as terrible dysfunctional franchises.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, y, couldn't he do a little suggestion box then

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Speaker 6: just slip a note under his door and fire and

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Speaker 6: remove the awkwardness of it, And then when he gets around

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Speaker 6: to bending down and seeing there's a note by the door,

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Speaker 6: then he.

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Speaker 2: Knows you're the king of the suggestion box. Though I

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Speaker 2: think that would still.

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Speaker 6: Be better, as awkward as that is.

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Speaker 2: Then, in the middle of an intervieous PAULI, he imagine

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Speaker 2: he walks in the room and says, bring your playbook.

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Speaker 4: Not you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not you. Wow, that's rough.

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Speaker 3: We waited like twelve seconds after hearing that story from

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Speaker 3: you before he started popping jokes.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hey, you know what, hope Mike gets the

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Speaker 2: last laugh ends up with Detroit. We did invite him on.

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Speaker 2: He's always been a good guest. So all right, a

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Speaker 2: couple of phone calls in here, uh Bill in Houston.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Fritzie has his Houston Astros jersey. You

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Speaker 2: got sweat bands on, have.

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Speaker 4: My Navy blue wrist bands. I figured why not?

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Speaker 6: You know, the Texans won a big game, and I'm

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Speaker 6: not a Texans fan, but for the city of h town,

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Speaker 6: for a huge town, as I like to call them. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I get a little love to the city of Houston,

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Speaker 6: not so much the Texans themselves.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're adjacent, shout out to.

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Speaker 6: Have anything Houston related. I always like to try to

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Speaker 6: come up with a themed little outfits.

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Speaker 5: That's what I try.

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Speaker 2: Billain Houston h town, huge town is Fritzy likes to say.

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Speaker 7: So there's irony that you just mentioned Fritzy because I

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Speaker 7: was going to give a belated congratulations for his MVD

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Speaker 7: LVD Awards at the end of the year. Well, my

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Speaker 7: question to you, Dan is Fritzy the Mike Tomlin of

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Speaker 7: the dan Ats good enough to win, but not good

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Speaker 7: enough to win acquiring minds want to know.

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Speaker 2: No, because he is super Bowl caliber at times, but

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Speaker 2: then he's Cleveland Browns at times, so he he can

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Speaker 2: Whoa that was unbelieva. You see what he just did?

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Speaker 2: Or I've got a knife in yeah. Oh wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Hey Dan? How you doing good?

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Speaker 8: I just got something real quick. I don't think Tomlin

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Speaker 8: If Tomlin had Lamar, you know, they might be playing

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's on the hot seat. I

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Speaker 6: Yes, tom what do you want to do is a

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Speaker 2: Well, you could say it in a different way. You

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 6: It's just what do you want to do. It's like,

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Speaker 2: But that happened to me at the Mothership when my

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Speaker 5: The other thing about the Tomas situation, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: studio analyst Coach, Good to see you again. If I

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Speaker 2: didn't see the game last night, how would you describe

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Speaker 4: A tail of two halves. I think missed opportunities by

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Speaker 2: What's the one question, the main question you would want

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Speaker 4: You know, this will be something with art Omar and

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Speaker 4: So I think that's why it's really good to kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Pittsburgh has been good enough to not be

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Speaker 2: like a quarterback, a franchise quarterback they've been searching for

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the attempt was made with Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 4: they've got some young offensive lineman, they've got some young

434
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Speaker 4: defensive linemen. I think Joey Porter Junior stepped up to

435
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: be a very good defensive back. You got DK Metcalf

436
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 4: now moving forward, so there's a lot of pieces in

437
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 4: place right there. I think what you've kind of tried

438
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 4: to do, I think again, was piece this thing together

439
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 4: these last couple of years. And I think again that

440
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 4: we've seen it before. There's been a lot of four

441
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: win teams, and you know, everyone's looking for the quarterback.

442
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: There's there's not like there's thirty two of them in

443
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: the National Football League. There are still some guys even

444
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: trying to prove themselves now in these playoffs, and these

445
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: young guys. So you've got to be able to build

446
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 4: a team around you that allows you to win and

447
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: get into the playoffs, and you create that culture, create

448
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: that expectation, and when that guy does come along, you

449
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: don't build it around him. You insert him into that team.

450
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Speaker 4: And that's how to me, that's what we were able

451
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Speaker 4: to do with Ben Roethlisberger. And you know for many years,

452
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 4: we won a playoff game with Neil donnod. We want

453
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Speaker 4: a playoff game with Mike Thomas that we're going to

454
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Speaker 4: a playoff game with Cordell Stewart, won a playoff game

455
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Speaker 4: with Tommy Maddox. Do we get eliminated, Yeah we did,

456
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: but we won a championship because we had a special

457
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 4: quarterback that came in and got us over the hump.

458
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Speaker 4: Defenses will get you into the playoffs. Quarterbacks will win

459
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Speaker 4: your championships.

460
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Speaker 2: So I got a Bill Coward the Hall of Famer.

461
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: You stepped away from football? What were you forty nine

462
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Speaker 2: or forty nine or fifty nine when you stepped.

463
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Speaker 4: You're not going down You're not going down this path again,

464
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Speaker 4: you know.

465
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Speaker 2: I'm just I want to know what you thought as

466
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: far as your coaching future when you stepped away from

467
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Like that week, if I would have asked you,

468
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: what is your coaching future, what would you have said?

469
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I love coaching. Into this day, I've

470
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: got too much respect for it. My mind was a

471
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 4: lot more involved with that Dan. It wasn't justifyed coaching.

472
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 4: I made a decision that I prioritized my family and

473
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Speaker 4: particularly my wife at the time, who needed me to

474
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 4: be there. And it was a very It was a

475
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: time where we moved to Raleigh. My my youngest daughter

476
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: was going to tenth grade, and we made a commitment

477
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 4: for three years with whatever we were going to do

478
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 4: with our kids, because coaching could be one of those

479
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 4: professions that I didn't want my kid going from three

480
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: different high schools in their tenth, eleventh, and twelfth grade.

481
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: So they went down and so I coached that last

482
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Speaker 4: year in Pittsburgh, and I sat back at the very end,

483
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 4: and I think it was a case that did I

484
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: love that team? Yeah? And it was a team. We

485
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 4: didn't go to playoffs. Ben also had the off season injury,

486
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 4: they had the accident, and we finished out six and two,

487
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: and I knew it was a good team, was a

488
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 4: good staff. But I had to sit down and prioritize

489
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: my life from when I thought was important. And I

490
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 4: had no regrets to this day having walked away. Did

491
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: I think I would probably come back? I did, But

492
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Speaker 4: the more I got involved with this life I'm living

493
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Speaker 4: right now, the normalcy that was involved with my wife,

494
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: who I had met and had been there before. I've

495
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 4: enjoyed this platform and been on now at CBS for

496
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 4: nineteen years because I do have normalcy. I do have

497
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: an off season and I still love the game though,

498
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: and I did miss coaching, and I still to this

499
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: day at times I missed the strategizing of it. I

500
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 4: talked to a lot of coaches around there. There's nothing

501
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: better than the scheme up of blitz when you get

502
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: a guy running free, you know, or buckets friends. And

503
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: also we were going five wives when nobody was doing

504
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: five wives in the Super Bowl against the Dallas Conboys

505
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: because we're supposed to be a running team. I love

506
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: to do what you didn't expect that the illusion of

507
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: one thing and doing something else. That to me, with

508
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: football is all about it's ess t day will miss

509
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: that part of it. That's why I think it's what

510
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: it's the greatest game that's out there. And so that

511
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: being said, I love my life and I understand and

512
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: respect the hours that these coaches put in the sacrifices

513
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 4: that their families make as well, because it's more than

514
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 4: just you, it's your family. Because I think your family

515
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: during the football season becomes those guys that you're seeing

516
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: every day you walk in there, and you're asking them

517
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 4: to make the sacrifice and the commitment to what we're

518
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 4: asking them to do. So it's those wives that are

519
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: at home, they're right raising their families, and all of sudden,

520
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: you have to bud back into that normalty degree of

521
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: normalcy and in off season, even though there's not much

522
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: of an off season these days for coaches, so it's

523
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 4: a very demanding job. It's a very absorbing job. I

524
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 4: respect that, understand that, and at the same time, it's

525
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: the performance related job, and we all know the consequences

526
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 4: that go with that.

527
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Speaker 2: There's an opening on the NFL Today Scent. Could you

528
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: see Mike Tomlin joining you on the set next year?

529
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Hey, listen, He's welcome. Mike and I

530
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 4: we could share a lot of worries, Like I have

531
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: a lot of questions for him through his nineteen years

532
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: bearly and talk that often. So I did. I actually

533
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: left him a beer and the refrigerator, so I don't

534
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 4: know if he does leave he's got I wonder if

535
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 4: that beer is still there. I mean, might he might

536
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: even still be. It's probably skunk by now. I'll just

537
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 4: tell the next guy you might not want to open it.

538
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a just a memorable thing. Just

539
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 4: leave it there.

540
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Speaker 2: It might have been an Iron City.

541
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: It was an Iron City. Yeah, actually I got I

542
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: got now, I actually got a commemorative can I have

543
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: to send you one. It's kind of my face on it,

544
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: so you know, So, I actually I really feel like

545
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: I made it in life. I got an Iron City beer.

546
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Speaker 4: Can with my commemorative can, with my face on a

547
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: beer can. What else can you do in life?

548
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Man? That's really appealing to be drinking a beer with

549
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: your face staring right at me.

550
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: Coach only, I'm gonna send you a six pack.

551
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: So, uh, if you're John Harbaugh, what's the best place?

552
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the best place. And

553
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: there's a lot of openings right now. I think for John,

554
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: he's going to go through it, and I think he

555
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: has to sit down to see where he's most comfortable

556
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: working with. You know, I look at the players. You

557
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: can look at quarterbacks, well, who has a quarterback and

558
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: who doesn't have a quarterback? But I look at John

559
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: like you've done this with multiple quarterbacks. It's more about

560
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: developing the team and building something that's got like you're

561
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: talking about longevity, that's got sustainability, and that to me

562
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 4: is being able to get with the front office that

563
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 4: you can work with, that you feel comfortable with. There's transparency,

564
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: there's also collaboration. There's also creativity and what you're trying

565
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: to do in terms of what you have on your roster,

566
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: who you want to bring in and a manner with

567
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: which you want to do it, So I'm sure he'll

568
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: have a choice of many just like Kevin Stefanski, I

569
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: would think would have the choice of places to go

570
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: as well. These are very successful coaches that had success

571
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: in the National Football League. They're not like the first

572
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 4: time head coaches. But there are a lot of really

573
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: good first time head coaches as well out there. So listen,

574
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: there's eight openings right now, and it's kind of like them.

575
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: What it's usually is, it's it's you know, I love

576
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: seeing young guys get getting opportunities for the first time,

577
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: not just have to be offensive coordinators. A matter of fact,

578
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: these eight teams now, Dan for these head coaches have

579
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: defensive backgrounds. Okay, so just make sure leave the fact

580
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: we're I'm looking for the offensive guru time. So sometimes

581
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: developing a young quarterback to Bess and you do is

582
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: have a very stout defense and a good running game

583
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 4: and let them come along and a very nice posture

584
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: with which you can develop them along the way and

585
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: not ask me to do too much too early.

586
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Speaker 2: You talked about raising two daughters. What were you like

587
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: when guys were three daughter? Oh three daughters?

588
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, what were you.

589
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: Like when guys came over to date your daughters.

590
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: Well, I told them the same thing that I told

591
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: my daughters and as I told my guys at the work,

592
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 4: because I actually had the same theory three things, choices

593
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: and consequences. So you got my daughter, choices and consequences.

594
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: Just remember that. Okay. That's first and foremost the people

595
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: you surround yourself with so I don't know, we're sure

596
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: where you guys are going tonight is the people you

597
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: surround yourself understand and recognize what you're walking into. Same

598
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: thing with players, same thing with coaches. And the last

599
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: thing and most important thing is understand something Nothing good

600
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: happens after midnight, and I expect her back here by midnight.

601
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: So there you go those three things.

602
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: You treated these guys like they were your players in Pittsburgh.

603
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I like my I always said I

604
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: had three daughters at home, I had fifty three boys

605
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Speaker 4: at the work.

606
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Speaker 2: Did you write it on a chalkboard? Did you diagram anything?

607
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: No?

608
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Speaker 4: I just I was always very good with my expression,

609
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: so they knew. And I was not happy about the

610
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: face because you knew. I wore my emotions on my sleeve,

611
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: so that was never a problem.

612
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: I remember asking Charles Barkley about that. You know, when

613
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: somebody was going to come by, and he said, if

614
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: I shoot the first, one word will get around. Don't

615
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: come over here anymore. Not the greatest philosophy, but that's

616
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Barkley's approach to this.

617
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Speaker 4: I think we get the idea.

618
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Speaker 2: Give me who you like in the NFC, who you

619
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Speaker 2: like in the AMC.

620
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Speaker 4: Now, you know, it's so funny. I always go back

621
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Speaker 4: to our run in two thousand and five and you

622
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: start to look at some of the teams and I'm

623
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: seeing two sixth seeds again. We were sixth seed, and

624
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: I look at the Denver Brough Buffalo Bills. They played

625
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: the third seed Jacksonville. We beat the third ce Seattle

626
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: or Cincinnati. Our first round, the visional round, we had

627
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: to play a net best team in the AFC. That

628
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: was in Indanapolis COLTSU were fourteen and two. They're playing

629
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Speaker 4: the best team in the AFC and Denver, and then

630
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: we went on to play Denver in the championship game

631
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Speaker 4: and if they weren't that we would have to go

632
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Speaker 4: play in the Denver two seed. Who we did play

633
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: to that would be New England. So in San Francisco,

634
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: kind of same thing. I think these two teams, these

635
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: wild card teams, I can think arguably you could say

636
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: I think every one of them. You could look at

637
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: and say Buffalo Josh Allen maybe put this cape on

638
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: San Francisco. Right now, you're looking at a team that

639
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: they're going against the Seattle Seahawks the third time they

640
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: meet divisional game, so they know each other very very well.

641
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: And Kyle Shanahan's got them playing very well. Last week.

642
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: Robert Saali is taking this no name defense and they're

643
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: playing the highest of levels. And then you look at

644
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: houston best defense maybe left in the in the de

645
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: and the team going up against the New England Patriots,

646
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you got Drake may is

647
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: only a second playoff game. Then you may have the

648
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: MVP staff for going into Chicago. So again, I think

649
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: this weekend could match what I thought was one of

650
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Speaker 4: the most exciting wildcard weekends last weekend. I think this

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Speaker 4: league could be just as much even more so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, aside from the Chargers Patriots, everything else

653
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Speaker 2: was crazy great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and last night, and I think last night was

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Speaker 4: another game that kind of got away in the second half.

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Speaker 4: So but I think like you said, you had four

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Speaker 4: game winning drives. You sat there and watch Caleb Williams

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Speaker 4: do it. Then we saw Matthew Stafford do it. Then

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Speaker 4: we saw Josh Allen do it. Then we saw Brock

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Speaker 4: Purty do it. Four fourth quarter game winning drives. The

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Speaker 4: lead change that went back and forth in the course

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Speaker 4: of these games. That's what I'm saying this. The margin

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Speaker 4: in the National Footbleague this year in the playoffs is

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Speaker 4: more here. We've been first seed, sixth seed, seventh seed,

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Speaker 4: they all right there, they're right there. I think any

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Speaker 4: crew one of these teams could get on a run.

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Speaker 4: As we can see right now, it can beat anybody

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Speaker 4: on any given Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, you saw the sort of

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Speaker 2: handshake between Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur, and you know

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Speaker 2: he's embracing the rivalry. Did you have one of those

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Speaker 2: moments with another coach that you know you just didn't?

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Speaker 2: You did sort of a drive by with the handshake.

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Speaker 4: Do you ever see our Baltimore games?

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Speaker 2: So you wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: You and Billick, like I said, watch our Baltimore games?

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Speaker 2: But did you not like him or you didn't like

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Speaker 2: the Ravens?

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Speaker 4: They were all the same to me, Dan, they were

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Speaker 4: all the same. One guy's leading, um, so I probably

681
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: didn't like him because he was leading them. Okay, So

682
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Speaker 4: I embraced robberies. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

683
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Speaker 4: I hope right now that Matt stays there, Ben stays there,

684
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: and it's cold and it's mad, and they don't even

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Speaker 4: shake next time. They just wave and salute each other.

686
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Speaker 4: And that's the way it should be. That's how robberies

687
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: are made, because you know what, when you're two good

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Speaker 4: teams fighting for that division, that makes those games special.

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Speaker 2: But are you okay with Billick today? If you ran

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Speaker 2: into Billick?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, we're great today.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I was pray with him in the off season.

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Speaker 2: On that particular day.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like anybody even over there. I knew Kevin

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Speaker 4: Byrd was a pr guy. He was a good friend

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Speaker 4: of mine from Cleveland. On that particular day, stay on

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Speaker 4: your side of field.

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Speaker 2: You're fired up again, I got you.

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Speaker 4: I know, yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. Robbers, there's

701
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with it. San Francisco, Seattle, watch that game

702
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: this week, Kyle and Mike McDonald. Let's let's say we'll

703
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 4: see it. They shall they shake after this game?

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Speaker 2: All right, what are you gonna do the rest of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Bobby watching tape up give up a

707
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: blitzer too, somewhere along the way. I love this time

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Speaker 4: of year. I'm gonna probably watch some of these games.

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Speaker 4: I'll watch Pittsburgh, see what happened last night. But you know,

710
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 4: but I I love it. I think this is the

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00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: greatest time of the year for playoffs. You put all

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00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: the hard work in, there's finality to it. One last

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Speaker 4: thing to just leave you this. I do this, pet Peete.

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 4: The fourth downs. Okay, I think the one thing we

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Speaker 4: talk about it. I'm okay with analytics, but fourth domes

716
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Speaker 4: when you don't go for it, and you you go

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00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: for it early in the game and you don't make it,

718
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: you lose momentum. And momentum is one of those metrics

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Speaker 4: that you can't quantify. Momentum creates pressure. Okay, you create momentum.

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Speaker 4: You put the pressure on them every time. That's what

721
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: momentum does. It creates pressure. And trust me, playoff pressure

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00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: is greater than regular season pressure. So anytime I have

723
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: a chance to take the points, pin them down in

724
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Speaker 4: there and make them go ninety yards and punt the ball.

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Speaker 4: I'm putting the pressure back on you. So I think,

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Speaker 4: to me, we stay focused, cold, calm, and collect. Trust

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Speaker 4: our special teams, trust our defense, trust our offense, trust

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Speaker 4: our kicker. Any chance I have to put pressure on you,

729
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: which is take momentum. Control the momentum because I just

730
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Speaker 4: scored or I pined you, I'm going to see I'm

731
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Speaker 4: gonna seize it. And so that to me is one

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Speaker 4: of those things. Never lose a feel for the game.

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Speaker 4: I get the regular season because there's always next week,

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Speaker 4: and these things tend to even out. They don't even

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Speaker 4: out in the playoffs. There's finality. And to me, the

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Speaker 4: biggest thing is that momentum is one of those metrics

737
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: you can't quantify, and playoff momentum is greater than regular

738
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: season momentum.

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Speaker 2: You take a laugh.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna watch them Tames, go.

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Speaker 2: Take a long. Thank you, coach, thank you, thank you, thank.

742
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Speaker 4: You, thank you for loving, thank you, thank you for

743
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: leading event. Thank you.

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00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: You're welcome. You're welcome. I'm here. I'm here for you,

745
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: a therapist. Let's Bill Kaller, All of Famer. I'm always

746
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: ready to play whenever he comes on, like I'm ready.

747
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: I can't play, but i'd be ready to play. We'll

748
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Speaker 2: take a break here, your phone calls coming up, and

749
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Speaker 2: an interesting situation with at least one player on the

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Speaker 2: live tour. Coming back to the PGA Tour, Reggie Miller

751
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Speaker 2: in about forty five minutes from now. Take a break.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just I'm sorry. I never thought I would

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Speaker 3: see the day, but you fired Paul in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the show. I didn't have to comment on this.

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Speaker 3: It was just I feel it's out of line, Dan,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sticking.

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Speaker 2: Up for Paul. I'm walking off. No, paul Paul's under

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Speaker 2: the weathered show did not. I'm treating him the way

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Speaker 2: I would treat Mike Tomlin with respect, and he decides

771
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Speaker 2: what he wants to do. Paulie said that he was

772
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Speaker 2: under the weather and he said that he had to

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Speaker 2: tap out. You know, I've known Paulie for over twenty years.

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00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever called in sick. I don't

775
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't remember any time that he didn't go the distance.

776
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: But this morning he said, hey, I'm not doing well,

777
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: can't keep anything down. And I said, all right, well,

778
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: this show's not going to help your digestion, certainly with Fritzy,

779
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: and so he said, I'm going to try to get

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Speaker 2: two hours in. And so if you're watching, Paulie is

781
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: not in his seat, and uh, hopefully he'll be back.

782
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: He'll be back tomorrow. Knowing paul I saw her Brooks

783
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Koepka coming back to the PGA tour. How about that, eh. Now,

784
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: there's some things that he has to do. He has

785
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: to make a five million dollar charitable donation ineligible for

786
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: the FedEx bonus payout, no sponsor exemptions for these signature events.

787
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: So John Rahm Rice and d Shambo and Cameron Smith

788
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: are the only other live players who were eligible to

789
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Speaker 2: come back to the PGA Tour. And I think what

790
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: they the announcement was it's a one time only And

791
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: there had been reports that Brooks Koepka was hoping to

792
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Speaker 2: come back. I can't see Deshambo doing that. Rom I

793
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: thought that he might come back. Cameron Smith, I don't

794
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: see him coming back. These guys, you know, you got

795
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: to travel the world. And before you say wow, you

796
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: get to travel the world, you still travel the world

797
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: as opposed to pretty much just the United States for

798
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: these these guys who play on the PGA Tour. But

799
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: I don't know where we're headed with this. You know,

800
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: it's I don't think you can have both of these

801
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: and continue to have both of these. But you know,

802
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: they're changing the format for live. I mean the format

803
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: was silly. Now, Hey, we get to wear shorts and

804
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: we play loud music and we you know, play three

805
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: rounds not four rounds. Like that doesn't mean I want

806
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: to watch you. I want to watch the best golfers

807
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: go against each other. I want to have them play

808
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: in the big events. I don't care about an event

809
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: in Singapore or Sri Lanka or any of that. Do

810
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: you want to make your money, make your money, and

811
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Speaker 2: if you get the opportunity to play in majors, then

812
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: you get the best of both worlds. But Brooks Koepka,

813
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, and he hasn't been healthy, he's had knee issues,

814
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: but still he's a great player. Yeah, Seaton, it's not

815
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Speaker 2: a bad return on investment though. Perhaps No.

816
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Speaker 3: If you you step away for a couple of years,

817
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 3: bank a quick like one hundred and seventy five million

818
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Speaker 3: and then come back, I guess.

819
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I sign up for that. That's pretty good. The

820
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Speaker 2: colonel in Tampa, Ey, Colonel.

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Speaker 9: Dan and Dannis have another year? Hey, Dan, I know

822
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 9: nothing about sports. So just two uninformed, ignorant questions. One,

823
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 9: why not let Aaron and Mike Kim Steelers have another year,

824
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 9: especially if they do have a thirty three million dollar

825
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 9: cap space and Dan, that's one more year to develop

826
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Speaker 9: Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: Win win, all right, Colonel Uh, I don't know. I

828
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Speaker 2: don't think Mason Rudolph's the future. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: If Mike Tomlin wants to come back, great, right, that's

830
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Speaker 2: between him and the Steeler organization. They built up. You

831
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: know that trust. You know you got to do right

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00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: for both the franchise and the coach. Do I think

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin if he coaches, is coming back, Yes I do.

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Speaker 2: Would I be shocked if he did TV, I would not.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller will join us. More of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: as well. Final Hour this Tuesday. Right after this