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Speaker 1: this because he had a pretty good quote. It's pretty flatter.

424
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: He said that Darren Waller has the potential to be

425
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame tight Ends someday. The potential. He's

426
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: not saying you're there yet, but just what's your reaction

427
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: to that? Um, Croc is one of the guys that's

428
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: um really like had a lot of faith in me

429
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: since I got drafted, Like who's always like told me,

430
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: if I just work hard and do the right things

431
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: and stay out my own way, that I can be

432
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: really productive for the Ravens. And we're going to say

433
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: something like that. It really means a lot to me

434
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: because he's a guy that's seeing me through my ups

435
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: and downs and like still trying to work and trying

436
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: to find my place here. Right. We joked with Crockett

437
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: because he normally makes comments where he says that you know,

438
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: you guys gonna enjoy the bench, well he's on the field,

439
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: him to say that you could be a whole fan

440
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: tight end. That's really saying something. Yeah wow coming from Crockett. Yeah,

441
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: that's a lot. But with with Crockett's quote, um, like

442
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I take no offense to it because like last year

443
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: was really frustrating for him, and it's a big year

444
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: for him, like contract wise in his career, and I

445
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: don't want a guy on my team that's like yo,

446
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to be on the field, because that's

447
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: gonna push you that much harder. And I mean he

448
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: used to take a guy like Ben Watson for example,

449
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: like when he was with all his teams and being

450
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: the number one guy, He wasn't coming out and directly

451
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: saying that guys are gonna enjoy the bench, But like

452
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: through his actions and through like how he prepared, that's

453
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: what his game was telling people like I'm going to

454
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: be on the field. Things like that. Crockett went about

455
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: it different about in a different way, but I've seen

456
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: him like last year was really frustrating for him, and

457
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: he's played at a high level here before and he

458
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: just wants to get back to that level. It's kind

459
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: of funny on one hand he says, you know, you

460
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: guys enjoy the bench, and then on the other hand

461
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: he says, your future Hall of Favor right. No, it's

462
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: just so just how do you how do you kind

463
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: of look at this tight end situation because there's just

464
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: so many guys, so many talented players, very talented. Um.

465
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: I mean I tried. I tried not to look at

466
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: it at all. I just try to focus on, you know,

467
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: being a good teammate. Number one. If there's any ways

468
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: I can help help guys out, I'm gonna do that

469
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: because I feel like good things come back around to you, um,

470
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: and just focusing on the small parts of the game

471
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: and then let the those things play themselves out. Because

472
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you already know going

473
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: in that there's gonna be probably three really good football

474
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: players that are gonna have to go somewhere else, and

475
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: I know that I'm one of them. So I'm just

476
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: excited to be fighting for a spot and just taking

477
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: it day by day. You know, we asked you about

478
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: the crocket quote, but for you, like where did you

479
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: see the ceiling for you? Just because we've talked about it,

480
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Ryan and I have plenty of times that we look

481
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: at your ability and kind of the intangibles that you bring,

482
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: and we feel like you have all the tools to

483
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: be a great tight end, you know, one of the

484
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: best in the league. Like what do you see as

485
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: the ceiling for where you could go? Um, I just

486
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: feel like I have to like having all the tools

487
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: and everything is cool, but it's just like how quick

488
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: am I gonna be able to put them together? And

489
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: it's learning a new craft. If you think about anybody

490
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: in their life, if you're learning a completely new craft

491
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: on the fly against like people that are like the

492
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: best at what they do, Like you have to be

493
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: patient with yourself but also have high expectations for yourself

494
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: at the same time. So just trying to find that

495
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: fine line in between, like not getting too frustrated with

496
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: how I'm doing or how many reps I'm getting on

497
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: the field, but not you know, thinking like I'm going

498
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: to be this guy that's kind in that. So I

499
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: just gotta just keep working at it every day. It's

500
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: just a little review on last season for you in

501
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: your first year's tight end came in caught ten balls

502
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: for eighty five yards and two touchdowns, which did you know?

503
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: This tied for the team lead and touchdowns the tight end,

504
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: but you tie, don't touchdowns. So I went back and

505
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: watched the two touchdowns against say Cleveland and New England.

506
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: Was that the exact same play, the same play, exact

507
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: same formation, because I would think like one was like

508
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: for three yards and the other was four yards. I think,

509
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, if you just told me, all right,

510
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Darren Waller scored a three yard touchdown or for your

511
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: touch I'd be like, all right, they threw a law

512
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: ball to him, he went up and got it. These

513
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: are like route running, like shaking a guy getting it

514
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: over the middle. Yeah, just it's like a back line play. Um.

515
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: We actually had that play back when the coach Trestman

516
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: was still here. Um, it's just like a back line

517
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: play where if somebody, like I think one time, like

518
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Dennis was running like a sit route and then against

519
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: New England, Steve right that route, and then they're expecting,

520
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: like those guys demand so much attention on every play,

521
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: like they're expect they expect like the free Staddy to

522
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: come down in that back line sopen. I just had

523
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: to run away from the guy's guarding, right right. So

524
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: do you have to tell Joe though, like Joe once

525
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: a while give me one of his live balls. Man,

526
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm telling no, I don't. I don't just like me

527
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: who I am as a person. I don't really like

528
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: going up and be like, hey Joe, I did this,

529
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: this and that. I just feel like he studies the film.

530
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: He knows where he's supposed to go with the ball,

531
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: like he knows like if I'm gonna be open and

532
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: he wants to throw it to me, I'll throw it

533
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: to me. Do you like the law ball? Yeah? Ma?

534
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Can I go out there and play sometimes in the

535
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: field house and I've got the law ball technique very good?

536
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: Give them credit. You know. I don't quite probably have

537
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: it down as well as you, but match how we

538
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: guts each other. And that's my forte. You know, I'm

539
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: about six to your six five six six, so I

540
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: got a little bit of height. I can go out there.

541
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: What's the key? You know? I need to notice um

542
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: time and your jump um. And also another thing I

543
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: would say is not worrying about the defender because sometimes

544
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: you can like waste time like trying to get that

545
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: extra nudge and you may miss the ball or at

546
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: this time you're jump. So just knowing that you have

547
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: the strength to go up and get it and not

548
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: worrying about you don't have that, just going up catching

549
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: at the highest point. Basically you're the only reason you're

550
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: good at it is because you're playing against a little trip.

551
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: But it's like me, you know, at five eleven and

552
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: a half when he catches a touchdown on a five

553
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: ten defensive act, is he has to apologize and say, well,

554
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I shouldn't have really tried to catch up.

555
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: That's how I feel backed me up on this. So

556
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: so I also want to talk about, you know, one

557
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: thing that kind of held you back last year's he

558
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: started out with the suspension and four games suspension and uh,

559
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: you were pretty open about it when I talked to

560
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: about it last year that it was for marijuana use,

561
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: substance abuse or what is substance abuse? Yeah, Uh so

562
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: just you know, if you could kind of share with

563
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: our listeners you know what led you to that and

564
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: and how have you changed since then? Um? I guess

565
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: marijuana was always something for me, like to like eat

566
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: my mind. Like I'm naturally like an anxious person and

567
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: like I'll think too much and like dib myself a lot.

568
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: And I was just something that I used as like

569
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: like a therapeutic kind of measure. Um. But now, like

570
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: I know, like if I want to play in the

571
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: league and like maximize the time that I have, I

572
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: have to find other measures for it, like talking people

573
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: about what I'm going through, um, things along those lines,

574
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: just getting like the professional hope you may need. So

575
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: just taking those measures to where I don't have to

576
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: shorten my window for what could be a good career

577
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: down the road. Um, just trying to keep that career alive.

578
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: And I know I had to change something, So that's

579
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: what I'm working on. How hard was that to kind

580
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: of change that, you know, because it can become a

581
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: lifestyle kind of thing. Yeah, no, exactly, it can become

582
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: a lifestyle kind of thing. So it was difficult at first.

583
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: But just seeing the bigger picture every day and not

584
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: worrying about how you want to feel like temporarily, but

585
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: think about where you want to be down the road.

586
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: That's definitely something that I've had to change. It's just

587
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: looking down the road and not always looking right in

588
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: front of you. Do you feel like all that is

589
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: behind you, like the suspension, I'm sure that when you

590
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 1: go through that, there's a challenge of first of all,

591
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: you're not around, so you're not necessarily you know, on

592
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: the field, and you can't play. There's that aspect of

593
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: it too, And then there's the embarrassment of the frustration

594
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: of it. Do you feel like now you came out

595
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: there and you played, you know, after you got back,

596
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: that's not even really a thought anymore, that you've moved

597
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: past that exactly. Yeah, And um, like judging blocking my

598
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: track record and everything. I haven't had played a season

599
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: where I haven't got suspited since my sophomore year of college,

600
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to you know, I'm clean up my actor. Yeah,

601
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: there's a chance to go forward and not have any

602
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: weight because all that weight, like it kind of wears

603
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: on the mind a little bit um and you're always

604
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: thinking like what do people think of me? And things

605
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: like that. But those are the kind of things I'd

606
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: work on and get those thoughts out of my head

607
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: and know that moving forward, I can beat somebody that

608
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: the kids can look up to and uh see, like,

609
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: all right, he went through some things, but okay, he

610
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: got together and he's moving forward. It's nice not to

611
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: be in the doghouse. Right. So on a much higher note,

612
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: we want to talk about the combine. All right. So

613
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: at the combine, that's kind of where you first you know,

614
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: for people they didn't follow Georgia Tech football, that's kind

615
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: of where you first jumped onto the scene. What are

616
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: the numbers? You pulled the numbers? Yeah, I pulled the numbers,

617
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: all right. So your forty yard dash was four point

618
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: four or six seconds. That's moving for six six Yeah, okay,

619
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: you like six six and a half. You feel like,

620
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you're all right. So four or four

621
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: six that's a little bit faster than me, a lot

622
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: fasterianius um thirty seven inch vertical and a ten foot

623
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: four inch broad jumps. So when you were judging that

624
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: at the time, you were working out with the wide receivers,

625
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: and like the fourty yard dash, it was outside the

626
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: top ten. You know, it wasn't like among the leaders.

627
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: But now when you look back and you say, all right,

628
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: if you're judging him against the tight ends. It was

629
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: the fastest forty yard dash by a large margin, the

630
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: longest road jump, and the third longest vertical or third

631
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: highest vertical, So pretty impressive numbers. Yeah, did you feel

632
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: like with that performance at the combine, given all the

633
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: things a size to speed, all that stuff, that you

634
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, now I'm on team's radar, Like that

635
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: was a coming out party. After the combine, definitely feel

636
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: like I was gonna get drafted, like towards the late

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Speaker 1: in round so the draft um, but yeah, after that performance,

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Speaker 1: um and I'm just getting there and working do what

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Speaker 1: I need to do. But after the combine, I felt

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Speaker 1: like I could get drafted. Do you feel like, I think,

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Speaker 1: who was it that we asked about the best athlete?

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Speaker 1: It was it the Costa or Teasels or Tease who

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Speaker 1: the biggest peas That's right, combine freak we've ever had

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Speaker 1: was and he said and he said, you know, in

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Speaker 1: terms of the Raven's history, you know what is every

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Speaker 1: most freakish athlete that we had had at the combine? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, it's a pretty nice look at

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Speaker 1: this whole favor freakish. You look out of here, You're

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Speaker 1: not going to fit through the door. There are some

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Speaker 1: like Tori Smith was at the comin Yeah and read

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Speaker 1: put up like great numbers, like combine numbers. He uses

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Speaker 1: football player like Tori. He put up a nice fort

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Speaker 1: or dash obviously, but I don't think he like blew

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Speaker 1: the doors off anything else. Yeah, just in terms of

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Speaker 1: like the overall total package, the size exactly. So here's

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Speaker 1: the question. This is something we debate. Do you think

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Speaker 1: that you're the best athlete? If we're going to do

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Speaker 1: like just an athlete conversation on the team, who is

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Speaker 1: the Are you the best in? Do you who else

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Speaker 1: is in that category on this team? There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys in that category. Wow, you gotta have c. J.

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Speaker 1: Moseley on that list. Okay, he's got the strengths. Jimmy Smith,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's up there. Yeah. Um, it's a lot of people. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to leave anybody off for shod for sure,

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Speaker 1: straight up speed. Yeah, I feel like there's just athletes

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Speaker 1: at every position. Eric Weddow is an underrated athlete. I

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Speaker 1: think he had pretty good common numbers. Two. Actually there's

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Speaker 1: it's I just feel like everywhere we have athletes like

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Speaker 1: all across like special teams, players like I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can. I don't know. I wouldn't put myself as

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Speaker 1: the best. You wouldn't names well what do you? So

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Speaker 1: there's always a debate of like what you classify as

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Speaker 1: the best athlete, because it's like if you were to

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Speaker 1: go and play another sport, like if you were to

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Speaker 1: go and play around of golf, would you be any good?

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Speaker 1: So I would imagine basketball though, Yeah that was pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: didn't you play didn't you play ball? Yeah? So it's

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Speaker 1: like it's kind of like how do you transition to

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Speaker 1: other sports too? That's part of it. Who do you

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Speaker 1: think this is a better athlete between me and Garrett?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen either of you in action.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pick the hype because exactly I

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Speaker 1: like this. He's well, that's fine, he doesn't just what

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Speaker 1: he's what he's going to say exactly, Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll let you side on this and downy, I'm smarter

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Speaker 1: than you. Better know. He didn't say that you're a

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Speaker 1: better athlete. That's not what you say. Well, he just

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Speaker 1: gave you a past. He doesn't want to make you

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Speaker 1: feel bad. He feels bad for you after we talked

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Speaker 1: about the whole law ball thing. Yeah, alright, well Darren Waller,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, thank you for joining. Well it is

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Speaker 1: Darren leaves the lounge, the very beautiful lounge here. Uh

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Speaker 1: just say thank you to him and another good podcast.

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Speaker 1: Two great guests, Darren. I mean, both of these guys,

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Speaker 1: I think they could be stunts. I really do think

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Speaker 1: they could be very good players if they stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you both of these guys that if they're

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Speaker 1: healthy and all that they could be great tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't see any reason why they couldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember with Crockett, I always think back to

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Speaker 1: the Oakland game where he just ran through like five people. God,

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Speaker 1: that that is just etched into my mind. So let's

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Speaker 1: hope we see a lot more of that and some

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Speaker 1: good things from both those guys. And we thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening once again. As always, you can reach us

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Speaker 1: at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Please

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Speaker 1: will talk to you guys next week after the combine

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Speaker 1: when we were heavy into draft conversation. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about. You're heading out to Indie, so

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Speaker 1: you better come back with a lot of good news

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Speaker 1: and notes for us. I always do, don't you don't,

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Speaker 1: don't have any doubts. I'll come back with the best.

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Speaker 1: So we'll bring that to you guys next week