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Speaker 2: An NFL executive described Kyle Pitts as one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest disappointments I've ever scouted, he told Bob mcgahann. He

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Speaker 2: also says Kylepits is just going through the motions. It

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Speaker 2: seems like he's almost disinterested based off the films. One

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Speaker 2: of the biggest disappointments I've ever scouted. Some flashes but

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Speaker 2: rarely regularly involved in the offense. Seems to go through

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Speaker 2: the motion. Was disinterested. Definitely a bust based on expectations

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Speaker 2: and what they passed up.

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Speaker 3: Broke on the scene.

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Speaker 2: He was one of the I think he was the

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Speaker 2: second tight end in NFL history to go over one

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Speaker 2: thousand yards in his rookie season. Mike Dicker was the first. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: based on that great sludge at Florida. Guy could run,

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Speaker 2: he could move like a receiver, big yeah, tremendous hands, Uh,

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Speaker 2: he had he had it all. Slides, speed, catch, a

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Speaker 2: great hand, catch the ball in traffic, high point the

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Speaker 1: The henrey, the knee injury, the ACL I think that

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Speaker 1: that slowed it down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: That's all. That's all, man. Listen, Kyle Pittson's phenomena.

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Speaker 1: And even now with a little limp and a little

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Speaker 1: little injury, he's still a mismatched nightmare.

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Speaker 3: I just think they don't know how to use him

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Speaker 3: the right way. Where he is.

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Speaker 1: You can't have someone that played listen, on the line

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Speaker 1: with his hand in the dirt. He can he can go,

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Speaker 1: he can play in the slote, he can play a receiver,

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Speaker 1: he can play all he can do all these different things.

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, now he gets to Atlanta

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Speaker 1: and you know, you have him played a traditional tight

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Speaker 1: end type role when there's so many other ways that

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Speaker 1: you can use them offensively, you know, I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: just not using them to the best of his abilities. Now,

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I just know that injury, that

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Speaker 1: injury has affected him a lot. Now, uh huh, I

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Speaker 1: will concede this, Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter, Tyler, Henike Hell, I don't know b Gronk,

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Speaker 2: Kellen Winslow to second Travis Kelce. What could put up

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Speaker 2: numbers with those guys. So let's not pretend like he

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing that you can do is that,

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Speaker 2: like I said, I hadn't looked at him, but he said,

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Speaker 2: it looks like he's going through the motion.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, it doesn't seem like he's given max effort. Now,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: If you're probably if you're frustrated, O Joe, uh, you're

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Speaker 3: And then you have him go.

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Speaker 1: The creativity and allowing team to dictate whether you can

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Speaker 3: Run like that. Mm hmm. It's like I said, plus

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Speaker 3: mm hmmm. When he was with Arthur Smith, I thought

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith loves the tight end, and and I think

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Speaker 2: Since I might have to get something, I might have

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Speaker 1: But going through the motions, I mean, nobody is actually

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Speaker 3: Reveal who they who they are? Mmmm?

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Speaker 2: Hey yeah, bro, I can't you see what he got

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Speaker 2: shams you attached when he attached to.

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Speaker 3: Ages, name to it. Bro, you can't do that right.

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Speaker 2: That's why they tell you off the record you didn't

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Speaker 2: want to, but just make sure it doesn't come back

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Speaker 2: to me. It ain't that complicated. My sources, Yeah, don't

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Speaker 1: But these sources, it's twenty five. These sources need to

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Speaker 1: source is coming from me. I'm the horse and I'm

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I want to keep that check you think, hold on,

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Speaker 2: Just to a peace a player or a fan base.

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Speaker 2: You think I'm get a bion dollar job, Just y'all

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Speaker 3: Damn bad You're not gonna do that, no chance. They

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Speaker 3: always come from somewhere, Always come from inside of the house. Huh.

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Speaker 3: It's always coming outside the house.

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Speaker 2: Every time the Lions revoked season tickets of a fan

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Speaker 2: who had a pregame verbal altercation with Matt Lafleur at

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Speaker 2: for Fields last week. A TV camera cop the end

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Speaker 2: of the heated exchange between the floor and the hide

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Speaker 2: your sheet you see you said yousef uh. Lafour could

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Speaker 2: be yelling at the fan, but said his action were promoked.

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Speaker 2: I've never been a part of something like that, Laflour said.

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Speaker 2: He was talking and jump to our player, giving them

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Speaker 2: was pretty unsportsub like yourself said he was devastated by

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Speaker 2: the move after being contacted by via email. The biggest

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Speaker 2: punch in the gut man, just waking up and seeing

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Speaker 3: It was a terrible feeling. I don't have a don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a chance to give my side of

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Speaker 3: the story. You can't, man, you can't do that. You

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Speaker 3: got you can't. You just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You can't listen in the NFL is not gonna go forward.

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Speaker 1: The team's not gonna go for it because you're a

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Speaker 1: as a fan of said team is chatting and talking

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Speaker 1: trash to the opposing team's head coach, what do you

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Speaker 1: think is gonna What do you think is gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you think is gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: You have to remain a fan. You have to remain

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Speaker 1: in your position as a fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm surprised. There's no different.

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Speaker 1: It's no different then playing in the NBA, and you

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Speaker 1: got fans tackling players on the sideline just because you

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Speaker 3: Did he enjoy the game? There's no need disrespect opposing

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Speaker 3: the posing team's head coach. Now for what you know

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Speaker 3: what it'd been interesting to see to hear what was said. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't, oh, Joe, I don't think that the throat

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Speaker 2: slashing gesture is enough. Like I said, I don't know

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Speaker 2: he did he say, did he said the magic word?

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Speaker 2: Did he say the N word? Did he did he say?

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Speaker 2: Did he say some of the other stuff? Did he

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Speaker 2: call somebody a monkey?

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Speaker 3: Did he I mean what? What was some of the words? O? Joe?

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Speaker 2: And then like I said, I don't know. Now you're

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Speaker 2: talking to somebody that's been in a similar situation. Everybody knows.

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Speaker 2: My story is well documented. I got intoy, I got in,

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Speaker 2: you know, headed to a verbal altercation with some of

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Speaker 2: the Grizzlies players. Now, if the Lakers said, Shannon, you

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Speaker 2: can't come back, I'm dead ass right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, money that I paid for the tickets, I got

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Speaker 3: to eat that.

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Speaker 2: I gotta eat that because my thing, Oh Joe, you

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Speaker 2: know how I am. I control Shannon's actions. I don't

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Speaker 2: control the consequences that came from Shannon's action. Uh. And

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Speaker 2: I and I get what he said. He's like, man,

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Speaker 2: I ain't even get a chance to talk to nobody.

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Speaker 2: I ain't get a chance to explain my side of

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Speaker 3: If I get I was wrong, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know her, maybe I'm a little bit more sympathetic and

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Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: Hell, I forgot. I was at the game and he

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Speaker 3: was hot, you hot, Oh Joe.

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Speaker 2: Bro. It was like, I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm on

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Speaker 3: Oh you like this guy. I like this guy.

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Speaker 2: He's like, you know, we having a conversation about Kobe

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Speaker 2: and Lebron or Kobe Jordan joint Braun Bron Kobe.

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Speaker 3: That's how it was.

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Speaker 2: I don't I honestly, I don't remember anything until the

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Speaker 2: hallway and uh they asked, oh, you're okay, and and

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm like, why y'all keep asking me? I'm I okay.

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Speaker 2: What happened? Right, It's like, oh, you're okay, And I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at I'm looking at a man he looked. He

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Speaker 2: then it didn't really dawned on me. But at that

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Speaker 2: point in time, I like, Lord, have mercy. I said,

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Speaker 2: I lost my I said, sister, see this, my brother

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Speaker 2: go see this. The kids go see there, I see

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Speaker 2: I know Boughts going see this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hell, everybody goes I mean, yeah, there was there was

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Speaker 1: no there was no consequences on that, right nah nah

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Speaker 1: me my consecration, my image.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, No, I didn't. I didn't suffer any

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Speaker 2: monetary damage. But like I said, Captain Lake, if the

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Speaker 2: Lakers had told me that I was not allowed to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listens, that happens emotion his rides obviously when

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Speaker 1: when it comes to players, when it comes to fans. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't they wouldn't do that. Now, the situation with the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing and the thing was, oh, Joe,

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Speaker 2: The problem that I'm most disappointed ot Joe my job

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Speaker 3: Hey, hold on, hold on now. Sometimes sometimes as.

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Speaker 1: An adult, you gotta raise the temperature because if somebody

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Speaker 2: But in the situation like that, the words I could

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Speaker 3: But the thing was.

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Speaker 2: When people tried to spend it. Oh man, he about

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Speaker 2: had nothing to do with this. Solebrony had anything to

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Speaker 3: It went towards I felt. I thought it went to

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then and then his dad and I boy lord,

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Speaker 2: and I see that's what really got me. Of all

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Speaker 3: Man, please wow. Debondre Campbell told the team he's a linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, now he would play remember Dre here law

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Speaker 2: So I guess what that meant is that Devondre Campbell

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Speaker 1: But I think I'm seeing him from his perspective. Well, damn,

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Speaker 2: Bro and and that's bro. First of all, had he

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Speaker 3: So they threw you. They threw you a lifeline. He

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I'm gonna Hey, I'm gonna play play my

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Speaker 3: Five weeks he and he had the nerve to walk

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you got listen, you know, hold on, But one,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, you know what I mean, you

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Speaker 1: somebody like that was we know you upset? You know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, well if you're the one year deal, are you

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Speaker 3: you acting like that? Exactly? Exactly something like that? So

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Speaker 3: you have to understand Craig, Uh you do.

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Speaker 2: Uh? I think there's a situation Davis the DVD by

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Speaker 2: I heard the story, like, but then I can't do

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Speaker 2: this the more man, I can't do this no more.

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Speaker 3: Damn Monte rest in peace.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's uh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, uh but yeah, I'm not these guys do.

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Speaker 2: I've never been a part of something like this in

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Speaker 1: Somebody just did that not too long ago, Deontay Johnson,

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Speaker 1: he refused to go to the game in the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we have yes which is suspended. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: remember it off it Dack Henry dropped the dreads for braids.

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Speaker 3: We we we are, we are see I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was deffin to say we're gonna, We're gonna, We're

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Speaker 1: Think him running the ball and being in being as

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Speaker 3: It might be a good thing. He might be lighter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't got to worry about nobody tackling cause

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Speaker 2: you cause you do. Guys, you because somebody part of

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Speaker 3: You could pull it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's paying for you running one way.

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Speaker 2: If somebody pulled your lord, hey, hey, hey, oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: you want to fight?

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Speaker 3: What you want to do? Broke?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I grab your jersey. I was trying to grab

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Speaker 2: mean some of that stuff they hair covering the.

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Speaker 3: Most of the time.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a larger percentage of players with dress

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Speaker 1: that's covering the name that play on the defensive side

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Speaker 3: Yes, is it? Yeah? Oh yeah, I like I like it.

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Speaker 3: I remember picked the summer they pulled his hair. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Red and said o jo o jo, you and

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Speaker 2: big gott to retire from man old time my young boy.

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Speaker 2: Listen for one, I'm the best player in MAD in

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Speaker 2: the world. The problem is is the fact that I

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Speaker 2: So I haven't been able to be on MAD as

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Speaker 3: The sketch. That's it, that's it, that's it. We'll get

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Speaker 3: your ass.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had the time, and I haven't had the

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Speaker 1: used to. I used to win the madin bos. I

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Speaker 3: But the fact that the.

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Speaker 1: Past five six years, like I've been stacking job after job,

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Speaker 3: The way I used to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, stay off it, because you've been stacking al

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Speaker 3: Right, you see, that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: And because of my job that is also it is

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Speaker 1: also ruined my romantic interests as well. You see, I've

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Speaker 2: We play a lot of two tight ends, and I'm

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Speaker 2: always I'm always I'm why in twenty one personnel, two bats,

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Speaker 2: go to twelve personnel, I'm always a Tiger tight end.

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Speaker 2: So I remember looking at the side and I'm standing

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm standing in my spot, I'm staying my spot.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm I'm moving over. I'm going to the

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Speaker 2: He's like, uh eighty four you the you the why

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Speaker 2: who told him to do that?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, huh they they did. They said they sent

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Speaker 2: Two Jed wast the wasstick looking, which is the tight

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Speaker 2: end on the two way go. You know, hey, you

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Speaker 2: He can come across the other guy's face or he

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Speaker 3: Hold on this on it where on these hot? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I bet this. I bet this is on the back

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Speaker 3: end of your corrido. See you see how they play

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Speaker 3: you it is? It is no, yeah, this is my

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Speaker 3: This was?

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Speaker 2: Uh? This was nineteen ninety nine, nineteen ninety nine. I

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Speaker 2: never I'll never forget it on yoke Uh and uh,

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Speaker 2: they are right.

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Speaker 3: I know you were hot. Well, I know you wlay

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Speaker 3: the game. I'm seeving.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I told Cool, who was the offensive coordinator the time,

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Speaker 2: Do they ever pinch here for Barry Bonds? Come on, now,

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Speaker 2: do they ever pinch here for King Grifford Jr? I say,

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Speaker 2: if y'all ever seen somebody else saying to do that

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Speaker 1: Listen, you already know what they're doing. I tell you

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Speaker 1: all this time. People in the chat. Listen to this

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Speaker 1: real quick, think about all the great receivers. Think about

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Speaker 1: all the great receivers, even from my era.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing that they always do. They always say

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Speaker 1: getting slow. You may, but you never ever see the

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Speaker 1: part where the opportunities decrease to make it look like

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Speaker 1: it's something wrong with you, or they work you out

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Speaker 1: they never used to before. It'll never really be nothing

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Speaker 1: really wrong with you, but they find a way to

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Speaker 1: work you out. And it's always small things like what

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Speaker 1: you just said. If you talk to Julio Jones, you

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Speaker 1: talk to the AJ Greenas you talk to the Andre Johnsons,

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Speaker 1: the Randy Mosses, even the Jerry Rices. At some point

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Speaker 1: it always comes to a time if there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: make it seem as if it's something wrong with you

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Speaker 1: to justify or you know what, man, you're just not

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Speaker 1: putting up the numbers you used.

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Speaker 3: To, you know, I mean, thinking you might need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now a guy that yeah, oh, a

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Speaker 2: guy that they thought was losing. I go to Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: I leave the team and receiver it.

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Speaker 3: That's the way it is. Get to a super Bowl

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Speaker 3: mm hmm. And then and then come back. And I

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Speaker 3: finished second.

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Speaker 2: I finished second behind Rod Boom here uh and catches

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Speaker 2: the yards had eight turndown my final year.

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Speaker 1: That's the dirty dog. That's the dirty part of the

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Speaker 1: minutes that people really don't understand or see. They don't

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Speaker 1: they never see that part.

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Speaker 3: They just hear the media. Oh he's lost his step.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's something wrong with him, he's not the same

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Speaker 3: player used to be.

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Speaker 1: Well, hell, of course, if I'm not getting the same

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Speaker 1: opportunities I used to get when I was putting up

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Speaker 1: with the goddamn numbers, of course something wrong with me.

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Speaker 2: But I would have I would have never. I would

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Speaker 2: have never not going into the game right right, because

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Speaker 2: I had built up too much credibility with my teammates,

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Speaker 2: and they had they expect me to be the voice

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Speaker 2: of reason. Even there have been times that I got

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Speaker 2: on guys and I know things weren't going their way.

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Speaker 2: I can see it. Hell, everybody can see. But I say,

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Speaker 2: for me, I've always felt I needed to remain have

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Speaker 2: a level of professionalism. Now pro yes, p R O

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Speaker 2: and professional or two different things. A professional is your job,

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Speaker 2: of a pro is how you handle situations. So I

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Speaker 2: wanted to be a professional and a prograc because I

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Speaker 2: always wanted to handle things the right way. There's a

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Speaker 2: time and the place I had the conversation with cool

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Speaker 2: A Bro. Man, you go way I think, Man, you

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Speaker 2: go way back.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: You was my quirback for two years. You helped me

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Speaker 2: become the player that I became. You was the buffer

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Speaker 2: that when me and Mike wasn't seeing and I was

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Speaker 2: button head. You was the guy, like a boss. We

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Speaker 2: got to get a ball eighty four. Come on now

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Speaker 2: give me that.

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Speaker 1: But you know what you gotta understand though, absolutely, Kobak

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Speaker 1: get in that situation.

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Speaker 3: You know his hands is tired. Now you know that's

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Speaker 3: that's coming from a higher y.

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Speaker 1: I do that.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the way that worked. That's the way that

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Speaker 3: business worked. Like I said, look, me and Mike used

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Speaker 3: to Me and Mike used to butt heads.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And the thing was is that Mike thought money

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Speaker 2: would motivate, but what he realized it wasn't money that

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Speaker 2: I was playing for.

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Speaker 3: My situation.

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Speaker 2: And this is why I can empathize with Tom, because

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Speaker 2: the thing that I wanted from Mike was what Tom wanted.

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Speaker 3: From Yes, Bill, you for a very long time. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's it, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Money wasn't it. Money wasn't it, oh tr I never

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Speaker 2: got oh Chia. I ain't even get no million dollars

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Speaker 2: signing bonus. And I was cool with that because I

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Speaker 2: know what I was capable of doing, and I just

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Speaker 2: I you tell him, I said, Mike, you can't find

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Speaker 2: a tight end.

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Speaker 3: There's not a tight end that's currently playing that can

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Speaker 3: do what I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if he's an All Pro. First of all,

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna be an all pro as long as

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Speaker 2: I'm in league.

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Speaker 1: I know you're going to grab a pen of paper

505
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Speaker 1: because I know you're about to give me some goods.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying on you.

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Speaker 2: I say, well, how, I'm just trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: how you figured there's gonna be a tight end. Funked

510
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Speaker 2: them all the Pro Bowl in the AFC through me.

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Speaker 2: Now they might be some guy come you already at

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Speaker 2: the start of the year, from from ninety three to night,

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Speaker 2: from ninety two to ninety nine, when.

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Speaker 3: It came to the Pro Bowl, man, I show hope

515
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Speaker 3: I can get that backup spot.

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Speaker 2: Who what if one but two going to the AFC,

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Speaker 2: Yeah and me and being had it on lock right

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Speaker 2: now if you was nice to me, I ain't pull

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Speaker 2: out and let you go.

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Speaker 3: I would leave.

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Speaker 2: I would pull out of the Pro Bowl because you know,

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Speaker 2: somebody go to your body, Oh you know what you're

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Speaker 2: pulling out of.

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Speaker 3: But I would do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I tell me what, because it's gonna look good

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Speaker 2: on your resume. You got a contract coming up. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl look good. You try to get whatever occasion

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Speaker 2: may be the volume

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Speaker 3: Mhm