1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody, and welcome to this special bonus 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: episode of Politics Now. My guest today has been on 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: before and it was one of the most popular podcasts 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: that I've had. He's a financial guru, the founder, chairman 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: and CEO of Atlanta based Operation Hope, and one of 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: the most respected voices in the financial world. So when 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: the Bus family decided to sell a significant steak of 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers to the tune of ten billion dollars, I 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: had to get his thoughts on what this sale means 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: for the Bus family, for the NBA, and the continued 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: skyrocketing price of sports franchises, especially since previously on his Politics, 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: my Guest said Michael Jordan did the right thing by 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: selling his majority steak in the Charlotte Hornets, even though 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: it meant that there would no longer be a majority 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: black owner in major professional sports. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Anyway. Not only do we talk. 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: About that, we also talk about one of the most 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: popular and un annoying topics across social media, and that 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: is fifty to fifty, as in, should men and women 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: in relationships split everything fifty fifty? 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Anyway? 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Coming up next on his Politics, it is my pleasure 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: to welcome again John Hope, Brian John O'Brien, I want 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: to thank you so much for joining me for this 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: bonus episode of Spolitics because there are some financial things 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: happening in sports that I wanted to get your input on. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: Number one is the fact that the Los Angeles Lakers 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: have just sold for ten billion dollars. Now, you were 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: the first person I thought of when this sale went down, 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: and that is because when you appeared as a guest 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: on Spolitics previously, I remember we had this back and forth, 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: this dialogue about whether or not it was a good 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: idea for Michael Jordan to have sold his majority share 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: in the Charlotte Hornets. And I believe what you told 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: me was like, Hey, businesses are meant to be sold. 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: That's the whole point of it. 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Kind of Now, given what the Bus family, what they 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: built with the Lakers, I get it, it's ten billion dollars, 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: but we're talking about something that was family owned and 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: deeply a part of their identity as a family. What 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: were your thoughts about the Lakers and the Bus family 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: deciding to sell their portion were not their entire portion, 43 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: but they're giving up majority share of the Lakers. 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: Good timing. Look, you want to be Netflix, not Blockbuster. 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: You know, a Blockbuster had ego and they were like, hey, 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you remember you're young, but you 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: remember there was a time where every date was a 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: Blockbuster date, even it was during the week. You kept 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: you'd had tip five or ten bucks to the manager 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: of Blockbusch. Hey, look, this is the movie I'm looking 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: out for me. Put that one to the side for me. 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: Don't act like you don't act like you didn't do it. 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: Oh I totally did. Yeah, definitely, And. 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: Don't talk about Saturday Night. My god, you know that 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: might be twenty or forty bucks. Hey, look, this is 56 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: the movie. This is the movie I'm looking for. And 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: when Netflix Blockbuster got so arrogant about their market share 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: and market protections and how much they controlled the entertainment 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: market of household entertainment. They when Netflix went to them 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: to be sold for fifty million dollars, to sell themselves 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: to Blockbusters for fifty million dollars, Blockbuster turned their nose 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: up at them and said, we're blockbustered. We don't need anything. 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: And you go far enough for the north pole, you 64 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: end up south. And of course Blockbuster then found bankruptcy 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: I think there's one Blockbuster location still surviving. It's in 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: Alaska right now. It's a novelty. But you know, Netflix 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: makes that in the day. The purchase price that they 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: were going to sell themselves to Blockbuster for Netflix makes 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: that in the day or less. And you remember when 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Kodak there were Kodak Boosts in every park a lot 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: in America. Right, We all remember J C. Pennies. We 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: just laid off a bunch of folks and closed some stores. 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: We remember, we remember, you know, kmart as Sears. So look, 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: you go, there's a time to sell. Don't over You know, 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: you don't want to. You don't want to live beyond 76 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: your your your due date right your buy through date. 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: And I don't know what the future holds. I just 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: know ten bion dollars is a really nice number. I 79 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: don't know many things that you pass up. Look, it's like, hey, 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: I love you my cousin now, but how much they 81 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: want to give me for you? I don't mean that's 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: I don't mean that like literally, but uh, this is 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: this is where emotions just gets gets disconnected, you know, 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: I mean marriage is Marriage is a beautiful thing and 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: it's spiritual and god endowbted with spiritual virtues, but it 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: was originally a business contract before three thousand years before 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: god endowbted with spiritual components, which we get all wrapped 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: up in and now it's just become oh she's cute 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: or he's handsome, which is worse, but at least spiritual 90 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: was a higher value than money itself. But it was 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: a business contract. It's two families often related by the way, 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: marrying to protect their economic interests. 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: We get this thing twisted. 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: You build a business, create value, and you need a 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: liquidity event at some point, whether you're going public or 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: you're selling it or your I guess if you really 97 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: believe there's value going into debt, but you need some 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: way to bonds or something. You need some way to 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: unlock the value. And that's the tradition. This is a 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: this is any business. Now you talk about a space 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: that has been undervalued for a long time. Like you 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 3: go back to not this iteration of pro professional players, 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: but their mothers and sorry, their fathers was some cases mothers, 104 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: but mostly in the show that this where we live 105 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: in mostly the pro players were men. You know, my 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: brother Reggie Jackson wasn't taking down some huge salary. Hank Aaron, 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: who lived around the corner from me, God rest his 108 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: soul was not taken down a large salary at all. 109 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: He made his money in automobile, automobiles in business, Hank Aaron. 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, so did Reggie Jackson. These 111 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: contracts for athletes are fairly new phenomena that are you know, 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: it was ten million, that was that was big not 113 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: so long ago. Twenty million, one hundred million dollars was 114 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, ten years ago? 115 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: Oh my god? Right? 116 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: And I just think that with the changing media landscape 117 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: right now, because a lot of the sports franchises are 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: monetizing themselves, not based on people coming and buying a 119 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: ticket and sitting in a seat. It's the media. It's 120 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: a lot of this is tied to the value of 121 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: the media contracts, the broadcasting rights. And I think if 122 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: you go far an the North Pole, you end up south. 123 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: I think that, uh, you know, you ask my nephew 124 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: what TV is and he'll tell you it's YouTube. That's 125 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: That's not me talking. I have an interest in people 126 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: watching TV. I'm I'm a contributor on you know, a 127 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: major brand. I don't want to say which name it is. 128 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not trying to cast expersions here, but 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: you know it's it's mainstream TV. I don't get paid 130 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: for it. But I mean, I'm happy when they're successful. 131 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: But I'm looking at cable. People are cutting the cord 132 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: on cable. I'm looking at ESPN, I'm looking at I'm 133 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: looking at all these traditional television stations, linear stations, Cable 134 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: having to reimagine their business model. I'm looking at newspapers. 135 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: Who knows what the future holds. I don't. Then you 136 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: bring in aim my god, right, and will these contracts 137 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: persist for another twenty years or ten or five? 138 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. 139 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: I know there's ten billion dollars staying the Bus family 140 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: in the face right now, and it looks real attractive, 141 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: And I just think that, you know, you don't get greedy, 142 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: you don't get overly ambitious. You say really non emotional 143 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: about this and say that's a really great deal. I 144 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: need to move on to something else and consider that 145 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: a win. That's my answer. I think this is business 146 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, and this is a 147 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: great I mean a great We're not talking about we're 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: not talking about the entire franchise. We're talking about the 149 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: entire lead talking about one team in one city. Ten 150 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: billion dollars. My lord, it's the GDP of a small country. 151 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: Take the money and cast the check, get the wire 152 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: transfer as soon as possible. 153 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: But what you said about the changing media landscape really 154 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: is lends itself to a larger conversation about the business 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: of sports, because right before, you know, I don't think 156 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: we ever imagine the world where the Boston Celtics and 157 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: the Lakers will be sold in the same in a 158 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: span of a few months. The you know, Boston, they 159 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: had the record being sold for six point one billion. 160 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: Then you see what happened with the Lakers. They're ten billion. 161 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: Increasingly, leagues, specifically the NBA and the NFL, they're loosening 162 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: the guardrails about hedge funds being involved in professional sports. 163 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: I read an interesting piece recently that was written by 164 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: a former ESPN colleague of mine who talked about the 165 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: costs of what it costs now for the average fan 166 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: to be able to watch their games because everything's being 167 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: split across multiple networks. 168 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: You got your streamers, you have linear like. 169 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: You have to subscribe to like five or six different 170 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 1: things to watch one team. People have been operating on 171 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the assumption that sports will there's not a sports bubble 172 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: like the bubble camp bust. They can only go higher, 173 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: they can never go lower. But seeing these escalating trends 174 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: and the changing landscape, what are your thoughts about whether 175 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: or not? And as you just said yourself, you don't 176 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: know where these contracts are going. I mean, we're on 177 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: the cusp of getting a half a billion dollar NBA player, 178 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: like they're going to be able soon to be able 179 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: to make just a billion dollars the high level players 180 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: in just NBA salaries. 181 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: With this escalating cause, how sustainable is this? 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: Not? 183 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, John, there you go. 184 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's it is our professional sport. My brother, 185 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: my dear friend, Tony Resher did a brilliant deal, not 186 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: a smart deal, a brilliant deal for the Atlanta Hawks 187 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: in my opinion, and it has done wonders for Atlanta, 188 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: the entire Southeast region, and it has spawned development across 189 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 3: the street with Centennial your ours, creating a downtown, a 190 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: proper downtown in Atlanta, the biggest investment in Atlanta since Atlanta, 191 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: and that's multiple times the size of the of its 192 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: purchase of the Hawks, and and it's got the city rallying, 193 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of knock on effects. So you 194 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: look at that that that's almost market building, city building stuff, 195 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: that's not just a team. And the value of the 196 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: team has gone up, but the knock on value has 197 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: also gone up. And that, to me, that's more sustainable 198 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: because it's entertaining. Now you're about entertainment, you're talking about people. 199 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: You're talking about the connective tissue of culture of frankly, 200 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: people are people are lonely these days. They want to 201 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: hang out, they want to they want to spend time 202 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: with each other. No, there was, as you know, not 203 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: during the pandemic. People are like, oh, I don't need 204 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: to hang out with anymore. I'm just going to stay 205 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: at home and do zooms. We realize the whole purpose 206 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: of a dating app and so you actually meet somebody 207 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 3: in person, Like so we realize we actually that's the 208 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: whole point of a dating app, right uh. And so 209 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: I think that to the extent that sports connects with 210 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: community culture, that it creates stickiness and manages down depression 211 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: and manages down loneliness to a point that in a 212 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: way that people say that changed my life like that. 213 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: I look forward to that on the weekend. I look 214 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: forward to that on Tuesday. I don't mind drudgery of 215 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: work or whatever, that this this friendships, this just rooting 216 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: for my team or whatever and all. And then I 217 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: go to a concert and then I go I go 218 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: to a restaurant or whatever before after the game. 219 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: I think that takes in that it becomes more of. 220 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: Las Vegas and every city Dubai in La right, a 221 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: local cultural system situation that creates excitement and joy in 222 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: our lives. Then I think it extends its value point. 223 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: I do believe. I do believe the media landscape is 224 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: going to reinvent itself. I think it's going to go 225 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to explode. So I think 226 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: sports is one of those unique things where you can't 227 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: extend the bubble. 228 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: I do that, I think. I think. 229 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: I think Ambassador Young is right though, that men and 230 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: women fail for three reasons. You know, arrogance, crop pride, 231 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: and greed. So if people start becoming greedy, overly arrogant 232 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: and full of pride and refused, it just says, oh, 233 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: this is going to go on forever. That's where I 234 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: think that they're going to run into a wall. I 235 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: think nobody wants to be punk, wants to be used. 236 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: I think if the fans start to believe it's a 237 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: one way street about getting paid and not giving pleasure, 238 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: then I think that they will turn off. They will 239 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: find a way to turn off from that as well. 240 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: I think it's an elegant it has to be handled 241 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: with with suave white fears, Like it's like a relationship 242 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: with like being married. You know, you got to decide 243 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: if you want to be married long term. You got 244 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: to understand there's the difference between between being right and 245 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: being married. 246 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: Like those two things are very different. You can be right, 247 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: you won't be married. 248 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: So I think that there's a nuance here that there's 249 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: a there's a there's something where the streets and the 250 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: suites have to get value, and there's been a lot 251 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: of value now given to the suites. I think we 252 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: have to make start start start focusing on value back 253 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: to the streets. And that's that's why I'll give an 254 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: example of here in Atlanta with the Hawks, where the 255 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: Hawks purchase If that was just about a few people 256 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: making money and getting paid and extracting I think the 257 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: story would have had would have a cap to I think, 258 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: like right now, but I think the timing was brilliant 259 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: to inspire a six billion dollar real estate development, which 260 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: is fifty acres. We's got to create jobs and affordable 261 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: housing and and and places to hang out and entertainment, 262 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: live nation just excited deal. And that got nothing to 263 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: do with basketball, and you got you got soccer. Now 264 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: now you have soccer football, uh, concerts, basketball all and 265 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: and and and relationship capital culture all creating GDP by 266 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: the way, and and uh something for everybody, hotels, all 267 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: that stuff. I just think that that's the way you 268 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: you build it. It has to you gotta go. You 269 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: gotta go horizontal, not just linear, I mean not just vertical. 270 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: And and I put another way, my rich friends, my 271 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: poor friends do better if only to stay rich. So 272 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: we're at this point now where where I think they've 273 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: got to reimagine the model. 274 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: It's just not as simple as buns on seats, butts 275 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: on seats. 276 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Times, eyeballs on games equals media contract from legacy media 277 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: minus value minus uh you know what I'm paying the players, 278 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: and it equals you'll pay whatever I say to go 279 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: see it. I don't think that that simple math holds anymore. 280 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: I think you got to be the whole thing gets reimagined. 281 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: In my opinion, I don't know the answer to that, 282 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: but I know it's this new software grade. I know you, 283 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: I know you can't keep doing the same thing ten 284 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: billion dollars as long as just keep going back to 285 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: that number, right, ten billion for one team. 286 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: But here, you know, I think that was a very 287 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: very point phrase that you said. It's got to make 288 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: sense for the streets and the suites, and I think 289 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: right now in the streets there is an increasing feeling 290 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: among sports fans that they being pimped because if I 291 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: pay five bucks, you know, five to seven dollars for 292 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: a subscription to Peacock just so I can watch a 293 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: couple of playoff games, Okay, then I got to pay 294 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: an additional to watch this game on this network. And 295 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: then of course, you know you you have the sports bars, right. 296 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what they do because on a given night, 297 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: they can't find the game because they might not have 298 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: the right subscription. And if that is, if the only 299 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: way that they can maintain this profit is by okay, 300 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: let me sell ten games to Amazon twenty games to Netflix. 301 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: Let me have Netflix take over Christmas, let me do 302 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: this if they keep doing that, and listen, I subscribe 303 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: to all the things. So it's like not a big deal, 304 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: but I can certainly see a world where to your point, 305 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: and I don't know how they make fans feel a 306 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: little more appreciated and a little more like their money's 307 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: going further when the cost of just doing business in 308 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: sports isn't going to go down. 309 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: It's not going to ever go the opposite direction. It's 310 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: only going this direction. 311 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know how they can make fans 312 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: not feel that way in this current financial landscape. 313 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 4: So let me give you an example. 314 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: Well, first I'm gonna give you a bad example that the 315 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a good one, an example that 316 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: reaffirms what you just said about this is crazy people 317 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: feeling pimped. So at operation, I hope we do coaching incounts. 318 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 4: I am still. 319 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: About the number of operational clients who are financing a 320 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: trip to Jamaica with one of these companies that are 321 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: you know they pay they is paymentized, Like people ask 322 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: what's the payment. They're financing car rentals, they're financing trips 323 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: to the Islands. They're financing sports tickets. This is crazy 324 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: to me. And so you're now a monthly payment. You 325 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: went to a one time situation and now you're paying 326 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: for a year to eighteen months or more a monthly 327 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: payment to pay that one time situation. And now you've 328 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: been paymentized with all these other monthly payments. And when 329 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: your outflow seed your inflow, you're overhead will be your downfall. 330 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: And folks first have got too much month at the 331 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: end of their money is a real serious problem. And 332 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: now they're again they're financing sports ticket not just I 333 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: mean these are mostly like Super Bowl and think big, 334 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: but I'm ea talking about five thousand dollars. I mean, 335 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: you know about big numbers now. Because they can't afford 336 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: to just write the check, they have to finance it 337 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: so that I don't I think that that's going to 338 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: hit a wall. Let me tell you the good news. 339 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to name the companies. I'm not exactly 340 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: sure of the exact name you probably know, but there's 341 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: a company in l a. 342 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: That has a. 343 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: Small version of what they're doing in Las Vegas with 344 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: what's that dome? 345 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the dome where you get to watch the 346 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: games and yeah, yeah, yeah. 347 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: So uh that's bringing. 348 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 3: Virtually that's AI technology, virtual reality and the life blood 349 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: of the game and the energy of having other people 350 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: around you in community into a less expensive, not cheap 351 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: by Like. 352 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: I've seen the prices there, you know, but if you. 353 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: Can text that, you can do ten of I'm making 354 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: this up now, But if you can do ten of 355 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: those in each market for where there's a team and 356 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: deliver those in community where people can go and hang 357 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: out for twenty percent of the cost baby of going 358 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: to the actual game, that might be a way to extend, 359 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: broaden and deep and change the economic the economics. That 360 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: plus a few other things. I do believe that people 361 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: are willing to continue to pay for. My wife loves 362 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: the NFL and I'm a motorsports guy. She loves the NFL. 363 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm paying, but I'm paying a mortgage payment trying to 364 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: get her so she can watch the NFL. I've got 365 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: like five subscriptions. 366 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, are we done yet? Are we there yet? 367 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: No? No, because this team you can't watch his team 368 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: on that platform, Like is real pimping? Like like I 369 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: got to send Roger Goodella. No, my man is like 370 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: he has mastered this. I love Roger Acson, but I mean, 371 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: the NFL is. 372 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: The biggest, isn't it? The biggest? Is the worst friend 373 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: in the world, not the world? 374 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Is the biggest port in America? Basketball or I'm sorry, 375 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm soccer. Soccer is the biggest port in the world. 376 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 3: Yes, in the world. Yeah, it's unbelievable. What what they 377 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: what they've built, And I say kudos to them. And 378 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: I think if you could, if you're doing that, and 379 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: I think you also. You know, Jed York is a 380 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: friend of mine. He owns a family owns the forty 381 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: nine ers, and we do hope inside with them for 382 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: the community right around the stadium. That eases tensions, that 383 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: re increases community pride. We're helping the workers who are 384 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: seasonal workers in the stadiums and and that gives them 385 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: more more sense of that that this is the team's 386 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: reinvesting in community. We're now about that. We decided deal. 387 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't be saying this, but the ryans Or 388 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: family in Chicago who own a couple of teams there, 389 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: we're doing the same thing. We will be doing the 390 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: same thing there, hoping side of community, hoping side the 391 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: workplace coaching and counseling, helping people to come up to 392 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: increase the credit score, lower their debt, increase their savings, 393 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 3: increase their joy, and then give them some you know. 394 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 3: This shows that the teams really does they do they 395 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: do care about their community. And there's a few other 396 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: owners that we're working with in the same way. I 397 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: hadn't put these things together until this conversation. I had 398 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: not like weed all this together, but it does seem 399 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: to me that the smart team owners are realizing that 400 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: you can't just take So before. 401 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: I get you out of here, there's two very important 402 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: internet conversations not related to sports. I want to ask 403 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: you about because anybody who follows you on Instagram knows 404 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: that sometimes you see things that are going viral related 405 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: to you know, finance, like the music executive that chose 406 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: to take a ninety nine dollars Southwest flight as opposed 407 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: to renting of private jet to Las Vegas. So you 408 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: chime me in on these social issues. I don't think 409 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: I've seen you talk about this, but you probably did, 410 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: and maybe I just missed it. I hate this conversation 411 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: on everything, but yet I want to bring this up 412 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: with you because I know you actually have some sense. 413 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 4: Give me your. 414 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: Perspective on the never ending fifty to fifty conversation. 415 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, okay, Which which conversation that 416 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: we're talking about? Now? 417 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're talking about in relationships, there's been Oh 418 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: so the fifty to fifty like men and women in 419 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: today's modern relationship should or shouldn't. 420 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Be going fifty to fifty. 421 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I'll I'll just quickly say, there's so much about this 422 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: conversation I don't understand, and I realize everybody gros their 423 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: financial house the way. 424 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: The answers no, okay, I meant the answers the answers no. Look, 425 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: the probably the most underrated position in the biggest economy 426 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: in the world is that of a domestic engineer. That's 427 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: the person who's not working, who's who's running, who's raising 428 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: the children. Typically traditionally it's a wife, it can be 429 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: the man. But if you're a domestic engineer, I mean, 430 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: my god, I don't know how people do it. 431 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: How do you raise these kids? 432 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: You get it's thankless, the kids cursing you out and 433 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: throwing stuff at you. You know, you're you're you're you're 434 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: going you're going to crazy depressed. You don't see an 435 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: adult around you for you know, days on end, you 436 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: feel you're locked out of the real world and you 437 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: get no credit. And then and then when you make 438 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 3: it's home, they want Wedn's dinner. You know, entertain me, 439 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: talk to me, you know, dance for me. 440 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: Whatever. 441 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: So look, whatever you need to be paying that person 442 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: a bonus. So that's uh. Whoever was getting earning the 443 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: money got it. You got it easy. In my in 444 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: our family, I build the house, my mother, my wife 445 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: turns it into a home. I'm nothing but the house. 446 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: This is a beautiful house, but it's it's soulless without her. 447 00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 3: That's valuable. I'm the head, she's a heart. I'm the 448 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: chief business officer. She's the chief love officer, she's the 449 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: chief cultural officer, she's the chief wellness officer. I mean, 450 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: there's so many things that she's done to save my 451 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: life that you can't put into a financial statement. Like 452 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: you know, she's lowered my blood pressure. You know, I 453 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: found vegan cookies. I didn't know there was such thing 454 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: as vegan cookies, you know. I mean the stuff that 455 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: I use in my life that I never would have 456 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: experienced it, has she not introduced me to it. Those 457 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: things alone are game changers. And it's proven that if 458 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: you are married, you're going to make more money, You're 459 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: going to build more wealth just by virtue of you 460 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: being married. So if you are, if you got too 461 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: much month of the end of your money, then yes, 462 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: it needs to be a very practical conversation between two 463 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 3: people who are making let's say together one hundred thousand dollars, 464 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: and if you're spending, if you're a household budget, if 465 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: you're spending eighty thousand dollars in rent, mortgage, car note, 466 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: whatever it is, groceries, all that stuff, that's what your 467 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: budget is. You're gonna have to both boat go in 468 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: together to split these bills. If you're lucky enough to 469 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: live on one of those paychecks. The other paycheck should 470 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: be used to invest money. So one person works, you 471 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: make money during the day you bill was in your sleep. 472 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: So one check is about it's about paying household bills, 473 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: I think all of them. The other paycheck should be 474 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 3: used to buy stocks, bonds, invest in new ventures. But 475 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: you know, you guys got to talk about that together. 476 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: But this whole concept that I owe you a paycheck. 477 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: This is hope. 478 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: We're going in another direction where people they are mate. 479 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: There are people who feel like this is some kind 480 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: of job occupation and because they're cute and the looks 481 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: are going to fail, all the butt's falling, the rest 482 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: of falling looks going away. I want to know what 483 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: your credits career is, by the way, because when all 484 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: the resident has gone, you're my business partner for life. 485 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: What is your credits? 486 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: Go? Cute? Yeah, that's overrated. So I think that this 487 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: goes two ways. One, you don't get a free ride 488 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: just because you're cute, just because you're fine, because you're handsome. That, yeah, 489 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: that is highly overrated. I don't need to marry you 490 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 3: to be indebted by you. What do you bring into 491 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: the table. If two plus two does not equal six, 492 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: eight or ten in a relationship, what are you doing? 493 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: This is multiplication, not math. If you're not better together, 494 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: what are you doing? I can do bad all by myself. 495 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't need help. To quote Quincy Jones, the only 496 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: thing worse than being alone is wishing that you were 497 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 3: so I over answered your question now, but. 498 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: You gave a great answer. 499 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean my answer would be one hundred it's one 500 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: hundred one hundred really, because it's like we're putting it. 501 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: It's it's not fifty fifty, it's one hundred, one hundred. 502 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: I put in my one hundred, You put in your 503 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: one hundred. And it's like to your point, it's like 504 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: we're using for different things as we organize our financial life, 505 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: we use it, Okay. You know when when both me 506 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: and my both me and my husband we had really 507 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: state both coming in we both owned our own homes, right, 508 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: and so we both sold them and we bought a 509 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: house together. 510 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: On top of some other money that we had saved. 511 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: It's like, and we took the sale proceeds a lot 512 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: of them from what we sold our house, and we 513 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: invested in that as that was kind. 514 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: Of the point of being right. So it's a hundred. 515 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: And being married you got tax benefits correct that you 516 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 3: would not have gotten had you married if you filed 517 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: married separately. Marriage jointly has much more benefits. If you 518 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: sell the property and you filed marriage jointly, you get 519 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: as much as a half of half a million dollars 520 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: in tax free capital gains proceeds. There's a benefit of 521 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: being married right there. There's many, many more benefits to 522 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: being married. But there are some financial benefits. And I 523 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: agree with you. You said it in a different way. 524 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: It is one hundred one hundred. It's one hundred and 525 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: hundred if you broke, is one hundred and a hundred 526 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: if you middle class, and it's just a different kind 527 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: of hundred and one hundred if you're if you're wealthy. 528 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: You know, I don't need I don't need my wife 529 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: to pay the light bill. 530 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: I don't. 531 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: But if she wants to go and do a business 532 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: venture or whatever. Uh, well, she she invested in bitcoin. 533 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm not down with that. She used her own money. 534 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: Knock yourself out by the way she hit. 535 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: She it worked for her. But if it but if 536 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: it goes sideway, she has me right. 537 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: So she owns. She owns property. Has nothing to do 538 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: with me. She owns the property. She's a little capitalist. 539 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: She owns the property. Uh near the near the Obama 540 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: uh uh New President Library. She owned. I tried to 541 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: buy from her. She said, that's my little nugget. You're 542 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: not you know you? Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, that's 543 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: my nugget. I tried to buy it from her. Uh. 544 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: She she she has a problem in price property in Harlem. Now, 545 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: if she ever needs me, I'm there for But I 546 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: think she needed her own She also needs her own achievement. 547 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: She owns he needs her own sense of accomplishment. Right now, 548 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: when you need me and we can we do stuff together, great, 549 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: But I don't need to own your legacy your life. 550 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: You know that's not what this is about. It is 551 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: one hundred, one hundred and two plus two should equal six, 552 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: eight or ten. That's what you just describe with with 553 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: what your days are doing. You're better together, You're able 554 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: to do things together. You couldn't do a part. But 555 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: you're going to be different. You're different. You're a female 556 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: and she and he's a man. You're just different, and 557 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: we must respect the difference. I'll give you one example. 558 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: And got nothing to do with this podcast or this topic. 559 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: I just really evenole hear this. You want to know 560 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: what difference is. A man will learn the love the 561 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: woman he's attracted to. A woman tends to become more 562 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: attracted to the man that she loves. Okay, a bar 563 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: Now there's a tech man rule, but that is that 564 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: is generally a rule. Women are more mature, women are 565 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 3: more thoughtful. Women or you know, but that man visual creatures. 566 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: You know, that's why a man will fall in love 567 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: with a dummy, right because it's a visual thing. For 568 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: God knew what he was doing. God made women with 569 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: with with the body and along hair like these guys 570 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: in the Anderthals and women and women have what blind 571 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: spots too, right, But he understood that a woman is 572 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: going to be looking for more, uh, you know, protection, safety, security, 573 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: your heart, your soul. So again, a man will learn 574 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: to love the woman that he's attracted to, but that 575 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: woman will become more attracted over time to the man 576 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: that she loves. And that's a beautiful coming together. It's 577 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: it's uh, it's it's it is. It is one one 578 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: one equals four, five, eight ten, it's one hundred and 579 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: one hundred. And that difference together is quite beautiful. 580 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Even though I didn't expect us to take this turn, 581 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: I'll make the messy question this because what you just 582 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: said was you know, that was that was some wisdom 583 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: right there. And the year of our Lord twenty twenty five, 584 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: John O'Brien is a prenup essential. 585 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea, look, and I told you 586 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: it's a business contract. I mean it was business before 587 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: it was personal. If the guy's gonna be whoever's making 588 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: the money, because it could be the woman is example, 589 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: and they're going to be all wigged out and and 590 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: I can't and can't relax when they were traumatized because 591 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: the last relationship jacked them up. Then give them whatever 592 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: it takes to make them comfortable. If they need a prenup, 593 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: then that's cool. But if you but if you're marrying 594 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: somebody and you are looking at them sideways from Jump Street, 595 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: like you know, I don't really trust you. I need 596 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: some I need I need a I need a document. 597 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: Probably the wrong person to be married. Probably you probably 598 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: just day to hang out, you know, be engaged for 599 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: twenty years, you probably shouldn't be married. I uh, I 600 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: think that what's whatever makes you comfortable? And but here's 601 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: a practical answer. Whatever I made before I met you 602 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: and none of your business. However you want to however 603 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: you want to structure that whatever I made before I 604 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: met you none of your business. Why don't we try 605 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: to claw back and saying you that you want half 606 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: of No, No, that's just now you've confirmed it. You 607 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: ain't right, So there's no one should If somebody wants 608 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: to pre nup, I think that it has a It 609 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: has a potential of messing up the vibe, messing up 610 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: the energy if you got to press too hard for it. 611 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: But if somebody wants that, the other person really should 612 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: be okay with it, because it's like, that's your it's 613 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: it's it's talking about what happened primarily before we got here. 614 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: Now from this day forward, if we're building together, why 615 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't I want to share with you? I wouldn't have it. 616 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have it without you. It wouldn't have had 617 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: the peace when they had the peace of mind. It 618 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: would not have had this ability. I would not I 619 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: would not have had the the ability to dream big 620 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: dreams because of the foundation that my family gave me. 621 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: So why wouldn't you want to know? Different than why 622 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: should you be resembled about paying taxes? Uh, you got 623 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: roads that you didn't pay for, the roads you didn't 624 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: pay for, the light the lights you didn't pay for, 625 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: the the you know, law enforcement, the structure, the you're in, 626 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: the you're in the the best structured rule of law nation. 627 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: In spite of current situation in the world, in spite 628 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: of current political situation still in the world, rule of law. 629 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: And that's why if everybody wants to that's why it's 630 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: a flight to quality. Everybody wants to invest in the United States. 631 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 3: You know, China's talking about we hate the US. Meanwhile, 632 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: they're all running here in Russians, running here to invest 633 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: their money when the cameras go off, because this is. 634 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 4: The flight to quality. 635 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: All all these folks in the world, Iranians, Koreans, they 636 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: all want to invest here because it's flight to quality. 637 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 4: It's safe. 638 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: So why should you be Why should you be upset? 639 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 3: Because you've got to pay taxes. That's my partner. You're 640 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: the government's my partner. You've helped me become wealthy. Now 641 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: when I pay the million dollars in the state of 642 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: Georgia one year and state taxes, you know that I 643 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 3: stopped every time I hit a pothole. 644 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 4: Uh, and and. 645 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: Send a note to the Congressman, the Senator, the city 646 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: council person, the commissioner, the mayor. I had them on 647 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: speed a yo, yo, y'all, Here is exactly where the 648 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: pot He's a photo of it right. Uh. When you start, 649 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: when you start paying taxes, you start getting real attentive. 650 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: But I think that this is uh, this is no 651 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: different than this relationship. You know, if I'm gonna, if 652 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm with you and you're with and we're together and 653 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: we're partners in this, why wouldn't I want you to 654 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: to advance with me? And why wouldn't I want you 655 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: to share reasonably and what you helped me create? 656 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: Uh? 657 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: Uh with the exception degree, all things in balance I 658 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: think are reasonable. Alcohol and BASM and balance lowers your 659 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 3: blood pressure. Drugs and balance are prescribed. You know, sleep 660 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: isn't balanced. All these things in balance makes sense. You 661 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: get out of balance too much of any of these 662 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 3: things and and you know, you start having a problem. 663 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 3: All all of the addiction is is an emotion you 664 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: can't handle. And so when you become addicted to these 665 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: unnatural things, including being addicted to money, are being if 666 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: you if you're obsessing now obsessing them out about this prenup, 667 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 3: you shouldn't be married. You've got you need to go 668 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: to counseling, right And if you're obsessing about not having 669 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: a prenup, you shouldn't be married because you're trying to 670 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 3: pimp this dude and you and you because you try 671 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: you're trying to hide the ball. I think it's no 672 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: problem having the conversation and see how the person responds, 673 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 3: and if you're comfortable with the response. 674 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 4: Then. 675 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to say with John, this is 676 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: one of the reasons, many reasons I love talking to you, 677 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: because you have the versatility to be able to talk 678 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: about the Lakers sale in addition to whether or not 679 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: want to get it. 680 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: Get a freeing up. 681 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: You know, on top of all the wonderful civil rights 682 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: work that you're doing in the field of finance. You know, 683 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: you calling it the civil rights movement of our generation. 684 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: I think there's so much truth in that. I think 685 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: that is the truth. Yeah, yeah, financial literacy. Let me 686 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: be specific about that being the civil rights movement. I 687 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: think that's extremely true. 688 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: So listen. 689 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: I know you're super busy. I thank you for just 690 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: doing this on the fly with me. 691 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 692 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: I love all your commentary and your thoughts, and just 693 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: thanks again. 694 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: It was a pleasure to talk to you. 695 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: My pleasure. And let me say this, there are other 696 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: ways for your for people listening to you, and I 697 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 3: encourage people to listen to you and follow you and 698 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: tell your friends and follow you. I think you're brilliant. 699 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: You're making smart sexy. There are other ways to protect 700 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: yourself in a relationship. You can do limited liability corporations, UH. 701 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: You can do trust, revocable and irrevocable trust. You can 702 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 3: have a will, You can have a life insurance policy, 703 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 3: and if you get your partner to agree to that, 704 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 3: you can sort of bake in agreements around what they get, 705 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 3: which will relax them, make them feel they're not being pumped. Right, 706 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 3: And so now I think you really need to get 707 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 3: as quickly as you can, get off of the financial 708 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 3: conversation and get on the building conversation, Get off of 709 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: focus on me and start focusing on we as soon 710 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 3: as possible. 711 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: Amen of that. That's a mic drop. 712 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: All right, John, Will you take care and continue to 713 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: fight the good fight you too. This can close this 714 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: special bonus episode of Politics. Make sure you get at 715 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: me across social media or even email. 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