1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I quickly tweeted as soon as the kid Boom Cat 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: went down, I was like SVV one and they were 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: like Carrie, and I can always say this is not 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: this ain't no competition. It's a great knife for all 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: these yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yes, it's a great knife. 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: These women are amazing. But they won, and then then 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: you know they want but you don't have to say 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: it who won? I thought it was I did, I did? 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I did? I disagree as double you to the v S, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: double you to the v S w V one. I 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: mean that is only because growing up that was I 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: was Cocoa, Like, you couldn't tell me, you could not 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: tell le Lea Coco Taj. That was my crew. We 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: were best friends. But anyway, Eddie George is on this 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: edition of Naked Gotta pay some bills back in the moment, 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Every champion and carry champions to be a Champion of 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Champion and carry Champion and carry Champion the Champion and 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: carry Champion and carry Champion. Raateis raiders and sports and 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: entertain making naked weirder in the world were vulnerable considered, 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: we come and remove the vail from entertainment. Elite it's 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: a difference between what it's real and with the public season. 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: So here's your favorite celebrities behind the scenes. It's refreshing up. 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Then the whole story specific life ought to rendevents to 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: shake the person that you carry Yatta champion and carry 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: champion the girl you didn't. It's the greatest in sports 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: and entertainment. Connect it with every champion and carry champions. 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: To be a champion, the champion, they carry champion, they 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: girl tay chat the champion, they carry champion and carry 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: champion raiers, raiders and sports and Entertainmentking Naked Warmen, I 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: have to share a fund I thought that has been 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: on my heart for a very long time. I'm guilty 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: of it. I know. I believe some of my friends 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: who are quote unquote successful can so be guilty of 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: this as well. When you attain a certain measure of success, 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: when you have a platform, sometimes if you are a minority, 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: specifically black, you forget where you came from, You forget 37 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: to reach back, You forget that we too are just 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: as valid as a culture, as a community. And oftentimes 39 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: when you find yourself being the only one in the 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: room or one of a few, you cater to the 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: wrong audience. Translation, you start making money and you'll be like, Oh, 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't do it the black folks. You want approval 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: from my folks. I've heard it all the time. It's 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: been said, critics will say that of black people who 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: make it, you guys really care about what the white 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: person thinks more so than what the community thinks. And 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: I've seen that happen. Maybe I've been guilty of it, 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: who knows, I'm not. That's not what I'm here to 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: talk about. What I am here to talk about is 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: what I would like to call And I've referred to 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: this before as that racial renaissance, but there has been this, 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: this revisit, this this important what I think is important, 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: this important way to address our communities. More specifically, our 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: colleges are HBCUs historically black colleges and universities. Dion Sanders 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: not long ago, and you read about this Hall of 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: Famer Dion Sanders. Y'all know who he is. He became 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: the coach at Jackson State, an HBCU football coach, and 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: I remember when the deal was done. I thought, interesting, 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: he's leaving the TV game the NFL network to go 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: and become a football coach and not only become a 61 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: football coach, but he became a football coach at head 62 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: football coach at an HBCU. Two things. One, I don't 63 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: think that a big time white university or a quote 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: unquote you know university that is prestigious, if you will, 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: would have hired him. That's just my take. I could 66 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: be completely wrong, but I don't believe they would have. 67 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: And if they would have, they don't know if they 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: would let him be a head coach. I don't see 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: too many, even if you're a Hall of famer hall 70 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: of famer depending, especially in Dion's case, getting those opportunities 71 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: because he's flash. You know how Dion move, you know 72 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: how he is like, He's a lot of flash. So 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: it probably would be scary to them and more importantly 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the boosters and alumni to have Dion Sanders as the 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: head coach at U c l A. I'll take my school, 76 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: all right. I'm just gonna take my school for instance. 77 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: So with that being said, Prime Time goes and takes 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: this gig, and I'm like, wow, this is beautiful. I 79 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: love what you are doing. You're going to an HBCU, 80 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna give back and and and and be a leader, 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: and and show these babies, these young men, teach them 82 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: how to be men. To me, that wasn't her heard 83 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: of To me, that was special to me. That sent 84 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: a message that I don't know if you felt the 85 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: same way, but I felt like, Okay, pay attention to us, 86 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: give some love to the HBCU. I'm here for it, 87 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: right right. I mean, look, he's a Hall of Fame cornerback. 88 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Tell him. Don't tell me he's not one of the best, 89 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: if not the best. Everyone will tell you that he is. 90 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: So he takes his job. I'm excited about it. Look, 91 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: that's all I can say. I don't know what will happen. 92 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: I know there may have been some hiccups and some 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: bumps in the road early on. I'm not judging him 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: because it happens to any head coach. But then soon 95 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: thereafter Edward Nathan George Jr. Y'all know him as Eddie George. 96 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean he is, he's a great I was surprised 97 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: to find out he wasn't a Hall of Famer, but 98 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: he's an NFL grade running back and now head coach. 99 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Where where is he a head coach at another HBCU 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and I'm only wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold on, 101 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: we give him back. We're giving back in a big way. 102 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Eddie George is the head coach at Tennessee State. That's 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: to me, that's a huge deal because I said at 104 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: the very beginning, oftentimes when you make it to that level, 105 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: those guys are rich, they are successful, they are adored, 106 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: they are loved. They change the game in their own rights. 107 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: And instead of going to coach elsewhere right U C 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: L A U s C. I'll just name some places, 109 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: not that they were off of the positions, but they 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 1: specifically chose HBCUs And that says a lot. It says 111 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: that why not why not make our eyes just as 112 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: cold as everybody else's. And what I mean by that is, 113 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: why not take all of our talent instead of giving 114 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: it away to these universities that don't understand where we 115 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: came from or who we are. Why not go back 116 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: to where we began, where we where we are inspiring 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: other kids. If we all decided right now, in this moment, 118 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: myself include did, that we were only going to spend 119 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: all of our black dollars in the black community at 120 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: black businesses, would be over oh V A over and 121 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: people talk about it often. Um, I've heard different theories. 122 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: I know there's a few black owned banks. I know 123 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: all about it, but it has yet to have follow 124 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: through in a way that is impactful. And I believe 125 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: that Dion Sanders and Eddie Georgia doing is impactful and 126 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: I am impressed. So I say that because it's a 127 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: wake up call for me personally. Yes I give back. 128 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: Yes I have my foundation that is specifically dedicated to 129 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: brown girls who dream. I am making sure I am 130 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: holding the door open for other young ladies who looked 131 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: just like me, who did not have the same resources 132 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: that I now currently have because I didn't have it 133 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: when I was young. It is a mentorship program where 134 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I say, guess what, you're just as good. You deserve 135 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the same opportunities. You deserve the same hook up that 136 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: they whoever they may be, give their children, give their friends, 137 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: give their homies. A lot of times in the black culture, 138 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: we don't want to hook our folks up because we're 139 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: afraid of what it looks like. It looks like a 140 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: hook up, and that's okay. Ain't nothing wrong with a 141 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: hook up. They do it, whoever they may be, in 142 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: certain they we see it in so many other cultures. 143 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: I see it in Jewish cultures, I see it in 144 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Latin cultures. I see it in the white community. They 145 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: take care of their own. It's time for us to 146 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: do the same unapologetically. Do not worry about what anybody 147 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: else says to you. Do not worry about what it 148 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: looks like. It looks like a hook up, because not 149 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: only is it a hook up, they deserve it. I 150 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: deserve it. I need a hook up. I use this 151 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: example often of my really good friend Bosom the st 152 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: John and I'll right with this, get to the podcast, 153 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: because I'm preaching. When she was the CBO, the Chief 154 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Brand Officer of Uber, she specifically said, I want to 155 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: give you a national campaign, television commercial campaign, and we're 156 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna call it rolling with the Champion, and you're gonna 157 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: be everywhere and we're gonna have you talking in different 158 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: athletes while you drive them around, and get you certified 159 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: as an Uber driver Legit Uber driver, which I was 160 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: certified writing people around. I am impressed. I think you 161 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: deserve it. I'm calling it rolling with the Champion. I 162 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: am putting you in the car with all the greats 163 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: because you have the connections and you're gonna do amazing things. 164 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Not only is she hooked me up with that commercial, 165 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: she paid me the most. We had the best athletes 166 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: in the car. She made sure that one one I 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: got paid more than them to my name was in 168 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: the credits because they were trying to take my name 169 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: out of the credits. Three she made sure that I 170 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: was the face. And at the time, the company I 171 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: was working with was like, well, why Carrie, isn't there 172 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: someone else a little more high profile at this company 173 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: you want to work with? And you know they didn't 174 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: look like me. She said, no, I want carry because 175 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Carrie can do it. This was her giving me a 176 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: hook up. Not only a hook up because it wasn't deserved. 177 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: It was a hook up because it wasn't expected and 178 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: no one wanted to see it. And by no one, 179 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean them, they those. Why not give back to 180 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: our community, Why not hook our community up unapologetically? Why 181 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: not make sure our friends make just as much money 182 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: as they make sure their friends make money. I'm preaching, 183 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm pounding on the paper. You heard that. So in 184 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: this edition of Naked, I talked to Eddie George about 185 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: what it looks like from the outside looking in about 186 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: a trend that I in fact love. I love what 187 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I see, I love what I what I'm hearing. I 188 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: love that He's like, Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna take my name, 189 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: put it on the line and my reputation, put it 190 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: on the line, and be the head coach at this 191 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: HBCU that nobody was looking for. But now that I'm here, 192 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: we might get the big TV deals, we might get 193 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: the promotions, we might get the endorsements. Because I'm Mettie George. 194 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh I'm excited. But as we do it naked, 195 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: we begin with who is Eddie George. What makes Eddie 196 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: George Eddie George. He seems to be someone who's very careful, 197 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: and I've known him for a while off camera, that is, 198 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: after he played. I met chapter two or three of 199 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: Eddie George, not chapter one, and so I asked him, 200 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: I go, you seem meticulous, you seem methodical, organized, And 201 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: he said, well, I have a saying which I didn't hear. 202 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know this saying, or you may know this 203 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: measure twice cut. Once I learned the hard way, I 204 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: never I learned. I rushed into certain things um without 205 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: doing my homework or due diligence, and I just like 206 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: a need jerk reaction and it turned out, you know, 207 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: I got gonna ask it. You learned about getting you 208 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: asked here. I often ask athletes, especially on this podcast, 209 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: when I get an opportunity to meet them, when did 210 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: they know they were special? When did they know they 211 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: were different? And what I mean by that is when 212 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: you have a talent, especially in this world today, people 213 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: treat you differently. And I've been around athletes a very 214 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: long time and some of them act is if they 215 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: are special, and that is because they are. And that's 216 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: also because they've been treated differently for a very long time, 217 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: even if we're talking about a AU. But usually this 218 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: talent develops early on by for seven ten years old, 219 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: you are a child, and you are different, and you 220 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: are set apart, and you get different privileges. It could 221 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: be you don't have to go to class. It could 222 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: be somebody's doing your homework. It could be the girls 223 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: of the boys like you more. It could be any 224 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: of those things. But you know you are set apart. 225 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting about Eddie George. Although he knew he 226 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: was set apart and he had talent, he said, it 227 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: never came easy. I knew that when I was five 228 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: six years old, my father would take me to the 229 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: high school games around Philly, the suburban area Upper Dublin 230 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: with a hick in Abington and and just the smell 231 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: of the popcorns, the Friday night lights clack into the cleats, 232 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: uh insects dancing off the off the lights. I mean 233 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: that whole experience. I knew then that that's what I 234 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I knew then that's that's where I'm 235 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: going after that. I want to be a running back. 236 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: I want my father to talk about me the same 237 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: way talked about Jim Brown, O J Simpson, all the 238 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: great running backs. That's when I knew I was determined 239 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: to do that. Talent is never enough, you know what 240 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Um, you know that you have an 241 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: athletic you have an athletic ability, you could do certain things. 242 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: But I realized, again it goes back to me watching 243 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: other people that it takes more than just talent. Talent 244 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 1: can get you there, but to be great to um, 245 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: to do something that nobody's ever done, takes more than that. 246 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: It takes patience. It takes um hard work. It takes 247 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: crack character, it takes integrity. It takes all of these 248 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: things to really break through. That talent gets you there, 249 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: but to be great into has sustainability takes more than that. 250 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: So um again, I grew up in Philadelphia. I wasn't 251 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: highly recruited. You know, I had a passionate desire to 252 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: play at a major university. Uh, like I said, I 253 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: went to Forky Military Academy. My senior year carry I 254 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: rushed for yards twenty two touchdowns right all state and 255 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: at the end of my senior year I had zero offers. 256 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: I had one. I had one offer from Edinburgh. It's 257 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: a partial offer. I said to myself, Wow, you know 258 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm better than that. I remember my mom. I'm 259 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: telling me, Eddie, maybe this is a gift from God. 260 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: You know, you can be a big fish in a 261 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: small pod. But I was like, mom, I'm a great white. 262 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: I belonged in the Oastan Eddie's story is a bit 263 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: interesting in the sense that and I'm sure I'm sure 264 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: many people who have made it to the league and 265 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: all the professional leagues have this same chip on their 266 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: shoulder when they are somewhat overlooked and he talks about 267 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: how in high school nobody really was interested and he 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: was like, I was, I was this, I was everything. 269 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: And you heard him, I'm I may go to a 270 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: smaller school. That's what his father was saying. He's like, no, no, 271 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: I deserve more. He knew he deserved more, but was 272 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: he ready for more? He gets to this place that 273 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, y'all get on my nerves. Anybody who 274 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: went oh age come in. I, oh yeah, I'll get 275 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: on my nerves. I say that for my producer because 276 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: she was in love with Eddie George on this episode 277 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: because she went to school there. I was like, don't 278 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: nobody care Triple, I'm such a hater. But when he 279 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: makes it to O H I O the Ohio State University, 280 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: where he majored in landscape architect and played, obviously for 281 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: the buck Eyes, he he knew as a freshman running 282 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: back that you know, I feel special people like me. 283 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: He scored three touchdowns and a win over Syracuse University. However, 284 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: he was getting a little too cocky, and he shares 285 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: a story of how he mentally just wasn't ready for 286 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: the bigs. Came in as a wide eyed freshman hungry 287 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: for success, hungry that sort of coaches what I can 288 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: do going into a talent. The backfield back then it 289 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: was Robert Smith, Raymond, Harris Butler, but not takes, Jeff Catherine, 290 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: William Houston, Carlos Snow just left. So the backfield at 291 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State, it's always packed and talented, and I wanted 292 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: to make a splash. I wanted to come in there 293 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: and that put some respect on my name. You don't 294 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: know who I am. You know they gave me this number. 295 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: They gave me number thirty eight. I first walked the 296 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: door and I'm like, who had nick? Nah? Put some 297 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: respect on my name. So I Um, I worked. I 298 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: worked my ass off the training camp, uh summer conditioning, 299 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: and I found my way. I made my way to 300 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: be the starting um running back at the goal line 301 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: running back, and I had great success early on the season. 302 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: He talked about sports three touchdowns on national television Game 303 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: of the Week against Syracuse at the Carrier Dome, and uh, 304 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: that's when it was touchdown, Eddie. I get back to campus. 305 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: I went from being a funny looking freshman to being 306 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: final overnight. Only two weeks later. After that, I fumbled 307 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: twice against Illinois and destroyed my confidence and it, uh, 308 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: it really put me in the doghouse with the coaching staff. 309 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: They said, hey, we got this young guy, the freshman. Um. 310 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see what we'll see later on down 311 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: the line if he comes out of this or not. 312 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: So between that time of my freshman year and my 313 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: junior year, that time frame is where I won the 314 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: high school. Because I was down and out, I was discouraged. 315 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: I thought about leaving. I thought about all the things 316 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: my mind, my mom told me about maybe you were 317 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: better off going to be a big fish in a 318 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: small pond. All of the other coaches saying, oh, you'll 319 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: never played Ohio State. That that told me. All this 320 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: off was playing over my head and it was heaving 321 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: an effect on me. So my attitude was poor, my 322 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: effort was poor, and and my my focus was on 323 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: other things outside of saying, hey, I can control what happens. 324 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: They're moving forward. So UM, I thought about transferring. But 325 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: something within my spirit said, if you leave, you're gonna 326 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: have to compete and your deemons are gonna follow you. 327 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: So why not be the face to face deal with 328 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: it right now? And I attacked it. I began to 329 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: do what I always do, dig in, did my screw 330 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: in and and be a blue collar worker and work 331 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: my ass off. And I did just that. And that's 332 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: really honest. If I was Eddie in that position where 333 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: I came in and I was a bomb and then 334 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting on love and I was feeling really low. 335 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: Because this game is real mental, A lot of it 336 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: is mental, I probably would have left as well. I 337 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: would have considered leaving. I don't think I would have left. 338 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: And that's why I respect him because he didn't. But 339 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: he has very interesting way of thinking about it. His ego, 340 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: yes involved, and you have to have ego in this business, 341 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: in any business for that matter. You have to believe 342 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: in yourself because no one else would. And he he 343 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: explains in a very funny way about how he knew 344 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: he had to be the guy and he wanted to 345 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: be the guy, which ultimately led to a Heisman Trophy 346 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: his senior year. My junior year was interesting. Um, I 347 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: had I had some fans. Fair, I had to notoriety. 348 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: You were starting though your junior year. Now, YEA was starting. 349 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: I was still a guy, but I wasn't the guy guy, 350 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, it didn't. It didn't really come into Fruition 351 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: my senior year. Here's a question, what is the guy 352 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: versus the guy? Guy? The guy? I think I don't 353 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: but but for the sake of podcast, I'll go on 354 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: and explain it. But you you know the difference between 355 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: a guy and the guy got you know, jay Z 356 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: is the guy guy. I was confident who I was. 357 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: I could hold my space. Um, I had experience. UM 358 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: I just kind of if everything just slowed down for 359 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: me in every aspect of my life again, locked in 360 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: and focused on what I wanted to do, what I 361 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: wanted to accomplish, the type of team that that I 362 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: wanted to help how States be at that time. So 363 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: I came to Fruition. But to answer your question, after 364 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: I won the Heisman, um my, my world just opened up, 365 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, from seeing meeting celebrities too, um, politicians to businessmen, 366 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: too beautiful women. I mean, it was it was all. 367 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: I was all there and uh and it's intoxicating, it 368 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: really is. It can really overwhelm me. And to go 369 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: for actually having nothing and to being able to drive 370 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: range rovers and fly to Cancoon and go to l 371 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: A for a couple of weeks to shoot commercials and oh, 372 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: go to Toronto for a golf tournament and you're like, 373 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: oh this and go to the best restaurants and the 374 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: best food and be treated b I p that that's 375 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: an intoxicating thing and it made me. It made me 376 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: work harder. For one, I never wanted to get it 377 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: twisted in terms of you know, that's not my goal. 378 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: My goal is not to just just to be Hollywood 379 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: or or um just to enjoy the you know, all 380 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: the glitter that's that comes with it. It was understanding 381 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: that in order for me to have to be great 382 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: my all my goal was to be the greatest ever 383 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: play period. When you're the guy guy, and if I 384 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: had jay Z, I not'd ask him this too. Um, 385 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: when you are the guy guy and you have the 386 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: money and you have the girl, Um, what would you 387 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: what was your weakness? What do you consider? My God, 388 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: I could still had all my business, but you know 389 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: this is this is when she gets real and I 390 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: can't fight it? Is it? The is it? The attention 391 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: is that the girls? Is that the money? Um? Is it? 392 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: The fans? Like? What was your weakness during that period 393 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: when you're at the guy when you're at the guy 394 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: guy hyped stage. It was definitely it was it was women, 395 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: but out of doubt, um, for me, it was it 396 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: was definitely women the attention, you know. But my thing 397 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: was I enjoyed conversation. I enjoyed even no uh women. 398 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: I enjoyed getting into uh, get into their minds, um 399 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: and learning from all different aspects. And that that was. 400 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: That was definitely a weakness that I had. For me. 401 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm not a car guy, not a jewelry guy, um, 402 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: but I just enjoyed getting to know people. And I'll 403 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: just keep it like that. Look, I cannot blame Eddie 404 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: for being honest. Ladies are always the weakness, especially for men. 405 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: And and quite frankly, if I'm being honest with you, 406 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: I I know a lot of athletes I can count 407 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: on my hands how many I honestly believe don't have 408 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: women as a weakness. I mean, my weakness is fellas. 409 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: I love a cute date, I love some male attention. 410 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: I digress. It's not about me. Eddie now leaves Ohio 411 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: State and he enters the draft. He's the fourteenth overall 412 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: pick in the NFL Draft, picked by the Oilers now 413 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: the Titans. As we will know after being selected behind 414 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Jerome bettis Now I love me the bus, that's my 415 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: that's my dog. Um shout out to the bus. But 416 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: now I talk to Eddie about life in the NFL 417 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and what that looked like for him, and he's again 418 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: very naked. Women are a problem. Fame is interesting. Money, 419 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: well you know what money does? You know? You find 420 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: yourself in various situations that can get out of control, 421 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: and you're you're you're constantly trying to when that dominates 422 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: your thoughts on a daily basis, the moment you wake up, 423 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: it's like, who can I call? Well one of let's continue. 424 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: I'm going to go in l a my head up, 425 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: boom boom boom in Atlanta, the same thing, la la 426 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: la la. Uh. That can be a problem. That's when 427 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: destruction can really seep in. And when you're on the 428 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: field and things aren't going well, you go back to 429 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: the advice of well, I'm gonna go back to what 430 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: makes me feel good. You're thinking about that, so it 431 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: becomes a distraction. So UM, I realized at some point 432 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: in time I had to pull back and get clear 433 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: in terms of Okay, this was fun, but it can't 434 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: dominate my life. I've got to get serious it it 435 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: gets old after a while. It's not cool. Um, and 436 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: it can it truly affect your entire being and what 437 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish the people want to do, because 438 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: there's so many factors that things can happen. You can 439 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: break somebody's heart, you can, you know, get somebody pregnant unannounced. 440 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, all of those things can can happen, and 441 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: you know it can really destroy you know, everything you're 442 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: trying to do and among other people. So um, I 443 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: realized that and I pulled back on a lot of 444 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: those things that had to get self controlled. And that's 445 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: the number one things that one number one thing that 446 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: most guys in this business when they come into it 447 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: is they lacked that self control and they get caught 448 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: up into the fast life and the women and the jury, 449 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: and they believe that this is who they are, and 450 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: the stripped of that it can be a devastateent thing. 451 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Every champion and carry champion is to be a champion 452 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: of champion and carry champion and carry champion a champion 453 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: and carry champion and carry champion right afraid. It's a 454 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: sports and entertainment can naked wicker every champion and carry 455 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: champions to be a champion of champion, they carry champion. 456 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: The girl chappy yot a champion and carry Champion and 457 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: carry champion rate freiders and sports and Entertainment cannaket wimen. 458 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: For all that said and done, I'm not gonna take 459 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: away what Eddie was able to accomplish. I mean, he 460 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: he was amazing as a running back. And people know 461 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: that Eddie is the only the second NFL running back 462 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: to rush for ten thousand yards while never missing a start, 463 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: joining only Jim Brown, only Walter Payton, who had a 464 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy starts more consecutive regular season games than Eddie. 465 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: George's on thirty. So that's a that's a huge deal. 466 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he was the man and he showed up 467 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: in every way. Four time Pro Bowler, First Team, All Pro, 468 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: second Team, All Pro, NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, 469 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. As we mentioned in college, Eddie did his work. 470 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: But as he gets ready to leave the league, and 471 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: this is still of great debate, he doesn't leave the 472 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: way in which he wants to. And I understand you 473 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: want to go out on top. It doesn't happen for everyone. 474 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: When I when I stopped playing, it was tough too 475 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to get a good quality of sleep because your your 476 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: stomach is full of butterflies, because anxiety just takes over, 477 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: the tossing and turning, not knowing what the next day's 478 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna bring. As you because as a football player, you 479 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: used to routine, used to waking up at six on 480 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: the practice, from six to five meetings, all day, you 481 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: have lunch, you you do. Everything is bang bang bang bang, 482 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: and all through Monday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday all the way 483 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: back to again. Everything is structured. When that structure is gone, 484 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: you're like, mm hmm, what you got? My wife, she's 485 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: got the baby. She's not paying attention to me, you 486 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: know what. Let me let me go down the Nikki's 487 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: real quick, get a drink, or you know, watch the game. 488 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: You know there there there'll be some dances around, but 489 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pay attention to it. And then no 490 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: one will hold you something and your paying and then 491 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: it goes off the rails, you know what I mean. 492 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: So that's what I mean by destructive behaviors. And then 493 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: you're neglecting your family, You're neglecting um um, your purpose 494 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: in life because you're try to fill a void that 495 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: that you missed. You missed the war of a crowd, 496 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: you missed the camaraderie in the locker room, missed the jokes, 497 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: you miss the ability to go to the mall and 498 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: buy whatever you want to buy. You know, I mean 499 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: all of that, Um, it's gone. And and for me, 500 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: it was very it was it was heading it, um. 501 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: It was. It felt like I was wandering in a dark, 502 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: tight place. Um. And it was very scary because you know, 503 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: when you're in that that place, thoughts go through your mind, like, well, 504 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: with him, who am I? You know? One? And what 505 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: is my purpose in life? I know? I just wasn't 506 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: born just to be a football player. And I now 507 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonta. I'm wanting to push forward and do my education. 508 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna push forward through the arts, I'm gonna push 509 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: forward through entrepreneurship, all of these things to find my purpose. 510 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: And that's that's what I've tried to do. It really 511 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: honestly come down to my relationship with God. I mean, 512 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: that's that's Without having God in my life, Uh, I 513 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: would not be where I am. I would not be 514 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: in this position. That I'm meant because I tried to 515 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: create this for myself. There's no way this is the 516 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: perfect storm in terms of Tennessee State, who I am, 517 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: where I am in my life and right now what 518 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: I have to give, I couldn't have done it, So UM, 519 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: I owe it to a higher power for sure. So 520 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: life after football is always so hard. Life after sports, 521 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: professional sports, for any athlete is always hard because you 522 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: always try to figure out what you want to do. 523 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: And Eddie has done everything and that to me requires 524 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: a level of fearlessness. Um actor on Broadway, I would 525 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: feel as if he would be afraid to do that 526 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: because does that represent what a football player does? He 527 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't mind. He's done TV as a broadcaster, entrepreneur, he 528 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: has campaigned for um certain people within his community, activists 529 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: in the community, and now he has an opportunity to 530 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: be a head football coach for the Tennessee State football team. 531 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: And so I asked him, think of all the accomplishments 532 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: that you have and all the opportunities and quite frankly 533 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: the talent that you still have, you decide to be 534 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: a head coach at an HBCU. Why is that? Six 535 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: months ago carry I was not thinking about coaching at all. 536 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: It was not on my to do list, It's not 537 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: on my vision board, it's not was like, hey, let 538 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: me you know, this is something I'm interested in doing. 539 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm focused. I was focused on my entertainment career, on 540 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial career and being educator and just raising my boys 541 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: and having a family and playing golf every day. How 542 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: it all came to fruition was the president of the 543 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: University of President Linda Glover and Mickey Allen, and they 544 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: were like, Hey, we want to run this idea about you. 545 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, we wanna see if you be 546 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: interested in being the head coach of Tennessee State foot 547 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you do? Understand one, I've never been 548 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: a coach too. That's not what I do now in television. 549 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing wealth management, I'm playing golf every day. This 550 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: is this ain't for me. And I pushed it away, 551 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: like listen, thank you, but no, thank you. I can 552 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: help you find a candidate. I know plenty of qualified 553 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: black coaches that would love this opportunity because if I 554 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: do it, I'm gonna be fully immersed into this. And 555 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: I got too many other things going on so I 556 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: go home and it's kind of in my mind. I 557 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: go home that night and I said, I talked to 558 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: my wife, satas listen to this ridiculous ass idea. She says, um, 559 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: she said, well, we're so ridiculous about it. I'm like, 560 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: I don't have time. I said, we can't coach part time. 561 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: That is a full time commitment. I don't have time. 562 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: And I see how hard those guys worked. It were 563 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: twelve hour days and all this. I'm not trying to 564 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: do that. And she says, well, why not? You know, 565 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: you would be an amazing coach. And I kind of 566 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: gave you some thought, and I'm doing my pros and cons. 567 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: There was more prose to this, and there wiscons because 568 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: coaching is a calling. It's not something that for me. 569 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: It's not something that hey, I'm gonna volunteer to do this. 570 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: It is a true calling. So I sat back and 571 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: I prayed on it and I meditate on it, and 572 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: it really did a deep dive into my spirit in 573 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: terms of it's just something that God wants me to do. 574 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: And the answer was yes to me. That's huge. I 575 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: mentioned this early on the significance of him deciding to 576 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: be a head football coach at an HBCU. And I'm 577 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: not saying he couldn't have got an opportunity elsewhere, but 578 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to coach at an HBCU, be 579 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: the head football coach, to take his likeness, to take 580 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: his name, to take all of the connections that he 581 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: has and poured into this to this team, into this community, 582 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: and give back to a community that loves him and 583 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: adores him and appreciates what he's doing. It is a 584 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: big deal. I like in it, and I may be wrong. 585 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: I liken it too. If you had an opportunity to 586 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: go work for b ET or CNN, what would you do? 587 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: And guess what? No answer is wrong. It also depends 588 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: on where you are in your career. But I appreciate 589 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: what Eddie and I mentioned this earlier, what Dion is doing. 590 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: I mean, let's start the trend, let's make it cool, 591 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: let's keep our talent in the community. Come find us, 592 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: we know where you are, Come find us, Eddie explains. 593 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: I guess I understand it. Um, I've never highlighted that 594 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: though I never really thought of that. Hey, I met 595 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: this spc U and I'm not under someone else that 596 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: doesn't know more than me. UM. I look at as 597 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to bring the resources, to bring the attention, 598 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: to bring the hopefully the money UM to this program 599 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: where it's sustainable. I just want to I want to 600 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: leave this place better than when I got it. You know, 601 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: when I when I handed towards to somebody else, how 602 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: many years down the line. That is sustainable, it's a 603 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: viable business model. It's uh, it's it's it's running. I mean, 604 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: because this this has the potential to be an exception. 605 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: The program and the vision for this program is to 606 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: take it to the next level in terms of FPS 607 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: and so forth, and to compete with the upper echelone 608 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: schools UM not just athletically but academically. UM. So all 609 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: boats rise with this move. You know, the eyes of 610 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: any institution, it's through the football team. You look at 611 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State, look at Notre Dame, you look at Texas, 612 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: look at all the Alabama, any school and when you 613 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: turn the TV on to watch those games, you'll see 614 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: commercials come up and they're not talking about Ohio State 615 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: football or Texas football. They're talking about the business school. 616 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: They're talking about agriculture. They're talking about all these other 617 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: things at their institution that will impact rollment. And for 618 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee State, they have great tradition in all of these areas. 619 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: So my goal is to centralize their operations two in 620 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: a very safe and and in productive responsible way, and 621 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: two add my resources where there are deficiencies. And I 622 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: truly believe, you know, with the winning product that all 623 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: bulls are going to rise. As that he takes on 624 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: this new venture as a head football coach at Tennessee State, 625 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: I think it needs to be noted that he's also 626 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: taking on a lot of life experiences that he can 627 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,479 Speaker 1: share with these young men. Eddie is very candid about 628 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 1: struggling with depression. It started early, and it has been 629 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: a struggle. It has been a battle, It has been 630 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: a journey, and I appreciate him for being so naked. 631 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: But more importantly, can you imagine Eddie, George NFL Greade 632 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: sharing that story with other young black men. How safe 633 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: does that feel? That's the word that I want to use, 634 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: knowing that you're not alone. It's a serious issue in 635 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: the community, and I don't think we talked about it enough. 636 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: It's always there. I think, I think, I think depression, frustration, anxiety. 637 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: It's something everyone has to manage that that doesn't go anywhere. 638 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: I just lost my father two weeks ago. Um, right 639 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: right in the middle of this, this this moment of 640 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm want to be the head coach at Tennessee State. 641 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like scared of ship because I'm like, 642 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: I've never coached, you know what. I'm embracing that moment, 643 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of hyping. People are excited, people 644 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: are going crazy. And then I get a phone call 645 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: at my father passed, you know, on a Monday night, 646 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I knew it was going to happen. 647 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: But he was the very reason I played the game 648 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: of football, you know what I'm saying, And five years 649 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: old introduced me to that and that part of me 650 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: is gone. So processing you that has been has been 651 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: a gift in itself because my loss my father, the 652 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: physical was his game. Because he's no longer in pain, 653 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: he's found peace. So now I can take that as 654 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: my game because now he's at peace, he's no longer struggling, 655 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: he's no longer dealing with with his elements, no longer 656 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: dealing with cancer. I can find peace in there. So 657 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: depression is always that buzzard circulent, just like this is 658 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: waiting to find that crack to come in. And it's 659 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: your job to protect your aura, to make sure that 660 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: that that buzzer can never come in. Eddie went there. 661 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: When I want you guys to get naked, I mean 662 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: like an e K K I D naked neck it. 663 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: Eddie went there, and I appreciate it. You were very 664 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: vulnerable and you were talking about things a lot of 665 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: people don't like to talk about. It's interesting because when 666 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: you have a public persona and I am guilty of this, 667 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: when you have a public persona, you often find yourself 668 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: saying the right things and you are thinking, oh, I 669 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. What's going to happen if I say that? 670 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: Or if someone heard me be this way, what will happen? 671 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: What will happen? I appreciate Eddie for just going their 672 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: hardcore and not caring. Not only did he talk about 673 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: struggling while in college and how uncomfortable he was. Everyone 674 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: knows about that because it was you know, obviously you 675 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: could watch it. But then he talked about his weakness 676 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: and it started in college and that was a woman. 677 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: And then when he got to the league. He was 678 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: still battling that weakness because the ladies loved him. And 679 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: then when he left the league, he battled depression and 680 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: still does as many of us do, whether we confess 681 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: it or not. And how does he help himself? He 682 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: knows it's always are it's always lingering, but he's trying 683 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Talks about losing his father, talks 684 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: about still wanting to have a life as an actor. 685 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, in between time, he has this 686 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: great opportunity to touch these young men, these black young men, 687 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: and change their lives, and take all of his life 688 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: lessons and pour it back into them and into the community, 689 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: and put some attention on an HBCU. Listen, I'm here 690 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: for it, I say that a lot man. Listen, I 691 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: am here for it. But as I talk about all 692 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: the things Eddie was able to share with us, I 693 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: often reflect back on what's in it for me in 694 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: terms of what did I learn? And I asked the 695 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: question if I had a chance to work for B 696 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: t R CNN, where would I go listen my favorite word. 697 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: I can't answer that honestly right now, I really can't, 698 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: which is why I applaud Eddie and and he wasn't 699 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: presented with the opportunity to to go work as the 700 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: not to my knowledge, as the head coach at Ohio 701 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: State University. Right. But if he was, I don't know 702 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: which way he would go. Again, it depends on where 703 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: you are in your life and and what role do 704 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: you want to travel. But more importantly, the bigger messages 705 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: he didn't say no. He took his name and all 706 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: of his relationships with him to this HBCU to give 707 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: back to our community. And I respect it, and I 708 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: can applaud it and I agree with it, and I 709 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: can say I do the same. I put my name 710 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: on the line for the for the people in my program, 711 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: for the girls and brown Girls Dream, for the people 712 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: I believe who need a fair shake and an opportunity 713 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: that isn't often given to us because it's us. Oh, 714 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: Eddie was naked in e k K. I d at 715 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: to leave you guys with this because I like to 716 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: have some fun. I want to go back to the versus. 717 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: It's a hard, hard turn here s w V one kaboom. 718 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: Guess who stepped in the room. Y'all remember that move 719 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: when she kicked down the door if you didn't go 720 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: back and watch it this on YouTube versus YouTube SWV Escape. 721 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Escape wasn't amazing. Their presentation was amazing. Girls, 722 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: A great office, was jamming bodies, was slamming all of 723 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: the things. I'm just SBV girl and I'll leave it there. 724 00:44:32,600 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this edition of Naked Play.