1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noone Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: I haven't seen Rachel Nicholson quite some time. It feels like, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: you know, we saw so much of you last year, 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: and now I'm back in l A for a couple 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: more days. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: We'll be rocked down air a couple of weeks ago. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: Du It's not the same, the same, not the same. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: We can connect. I can only tolerate Jmax so long. 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: It's nice to have another adult in the room. So 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: you talked to Luca, JJ and Wemby last night. You know, 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: for a year when I would cover Phil Jackson and 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: I would talk to other people about him, you know, 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: they always said Michael would have gotten his points in 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: Kobe his points, but they always said, you know, he 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: just did a really good job of getting the most 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: out of Will Purdue or a Steve Kerr, or Rick 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: Fox or Derek Fisher, Brian Shaw. I think JJ Reddick's 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: got that superpower like ruey is looks like an All Star. 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I mean you talked to 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: him last night. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: It's it just I feel like he just squeezes the 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: juice out of the B players. 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean. 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 5: Phil Jackson's actually a great analogy. Phil had text Winter, 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 5: JJ's kind of all in one. So JJ in terms 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 5: of x's and o's, he's just so excellent at putting 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 5: a player in the exact position where he's going to succeed. 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: So technically he's always got guys in the right place. 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: And I think that's part of what's going on with 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 5: DeAndre Ayton. Frankly, yes, who has been a huge part 37 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: of this early seven to two run, but you know, 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 5: wasn't really doing that in other cities, and now JJ's 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 5: putting him in the exact positions he needs. The other aspect, 40 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: that's like Phil Jackson is he does all of that 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 5: sort of off court chemistry things. So you know, Phil 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: Jackson would give guys books, right, and he would sort 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: of have them do different projects. JJ Reddick has them 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 5: doing a Japanese sort of get to know you method 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 5: called Pika shuk I'm going to get it wrong. I 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: always say Pikachu, like the like the whatever, picha kachu. 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: And it is basically where a guy has to give 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: a presentation to the rest of the room and there 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 5: are six slides where he asked to give shows. You know, 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 5: this was what was important to me as a kid. 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: This is the basketball court I grew up on. 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: Get to know you things, to know each other in 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 5: a deeper way, to build that kind of chemistry. 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: And you're seeing it. 55 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 5: I mean, the other Lakers example you can give is 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 5: on the flip side. We remember in two thousand and 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: four when a Detroit Pistons team beat the Lakers in 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 5: the finals, a Lakers team that was heavily favored, that 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: had Kobe Shack, Gary Payton, Karl Malone. Why did the 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: Pistons win Because they were such a team. They were 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 5: all together and they really loved playing four and with 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: each other. And that has been built this year with 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 5: this team, and it's noticeably different, and part of it 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 5: is this JJ stuff of having them do the Phil 65 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: Jackson style things off the court. Luca said that, you know, 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 5: he showed everyone his cars and one of his slides 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 5: and everything his pride and joy. And then part of 68 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: it is just these guys really like each other. I 69 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: mean you can see the way Luca and Austin, you know, 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: just they vibe all the time. 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: It's really fun. 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there I said earlier today, I 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: don't want to pick on Lebron. I think Lebron knows 74 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: there's a passing of a torch. LA has always been 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: the Lakers have always been the past the Torch franchise. 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: Kareem to Magic to Shaq to Kobe, to Lebron to Luca. 77 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: That's what they are. 78 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: This is not you know, there's a lot of organizations 79 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: if they got one of those players right right, Lakers 80 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: just do it like every seven years. 81 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: He's not going on a road trip. 82 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: I do think Rich Paul and Lebron understand the passing 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: of the torch. But there are those that would suggest 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: he's being a little needy. He wants to send like 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: his little waves, his little radio waves too. You know, 86 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: I'd like, you know, maybe a little more love. What 87 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: do you land on that stuff. I don't want to 88 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: make a story out of a non story. I think 89 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: Lebron's too smart to not understand what the Lakers are doing. 90 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: He does absolutely. I think we saw that neediness. I 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: need to send out a little wave sort of thing 92 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: in the summer, right some of those Instagram posts, Yeah, 93 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: I'm in Cleveland wearing a hat that says home, I'm 94 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 5: working out of the old Clippers facility. 95 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: I made all of that kind of stuff. 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 5: I think now he's really on board with being on 97 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 5: this team right now and letting what happens next year be, 98 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 5: you know, next summer to. 99 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: Sort of thing. 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: But look, Lebron has a gravity in a locker room, 101 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 5: in any room he's in. I always compare him to Jupiter. 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 5: Jupiter has two and a half times the gravity of Earth. 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: Lebron has two and a half times the gravity of 104 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 5: anyone else in that locker room. So when he's in 105 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 5: the locker room actively on the court, he is such 106 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 5: a huge presence. It is going to be different from 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: when he is not, and there's going to be a 108 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: little bit of a test or interesting to see this 109 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 5: team reintegrate that gravity with what is. 110 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: Working right now. That's not Lebron's fault. 111 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 5: He doesn't do anything disruptive, it's just that he's different. 112 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: What do you make these international players are usually pretty 113 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: petty and mature. They play against older men. European kids 114 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: have wine with the parents. They're just different than our kids, right, 115 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: Like just there's just a kind of a liberal casualness 116 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: to alcohol and just life that we don't quite have. 117 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: So I would imagine Wemby is adult, easy to talk to. 118 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Was he for you last night? 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: Oh, he's great, and you know he's funny, but this 120 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 5: is his second language. I believe he also has a 121 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 5: third language in there. I was talking to him about 122 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: some of the challenges that you've been talking about on 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 5: the show, about the double teams coming at him, and 124 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: he said, you know, sort of the game is just 125 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 5: faster right now, which we hear. 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: All the time, right quarterbacks say that when they break 127 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: into the leak, everything's way everything's way too fast. 128 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: And so he had thought he had flowed the game down. 129 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: But now with these new defensive schemes around him, double 130 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 5: teams are coming from his blind side. They're not letting 131 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: him get to a spot. Instead of just putting the 132 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: tallest guy on him, they're more concerned with where he's 133 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 5: positioned on the court, making him uncomfortable, and he's just 134 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: got to learn how to deal with it, and I 135 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 5: asked him, I said, oh, is it kind of like 136 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: a video game, like you get to the next level, 137 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: you know, it's like leveling up in a video game. 138 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: And he's like, that's called scaling up. And it was 139 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 5: just so funny to hear this guy. You know, he's cracking, 140 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 5: he's making a joke and not his first language with 141 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: a vocabulary word. 142 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean, he's great. 143 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, one more heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours 144 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. 145 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 146 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd 147 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 6: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 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I think he's a learned guy. 159 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: I've had him on the show. I really like Adam. 160 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: The NBA has done one thing I think was a 161 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: classic mistake, and I told Adam this. They demonized college 162 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: basketball and the great thing about college football it microwaves 163 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: all these stars and then hands the popcorn to the NFL. 164 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, ready to go. You have a little soul. 165 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: Yep, they don't even have to pay for it. 166 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: That's right. 167 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: The G League, the G League basically got in the 168 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: way of college basketball. So guys playing El segundo, nobody watches. 169 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: The reason I know Zion is Duke, it's Michigan State, 170 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: it's Kentucky, So embrace college basketball. I do think the 171 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: NIL now is doing that. It's you guys are like 172 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand year four hundred there. I'll stay at 173 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: Michigan State. But John Moran, it's kind of a cautionary 174 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: tale his lack of maturity. He was recently asked about 175 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: his unhappiness the coaches in Memphis. 176 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: What are we doing? 177 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: The coach staff able to talk about a happy. 178 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 6: Friday and move on? 179 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I ask that question in them. Huh what about 180 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: for you? 181 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 182 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: I ask that question so I'll know the answer. 183 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 7: To that. 184 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Do you feel like everything's been resolved? 185 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 186 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: They told you that, right, Well yeah, but from you 187 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: obviously they can go and tell y'all something mind says, 188 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: so what are you making? 189 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 5: Its current situation is clearly deeply unhappy, and I think 190 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: this is a little bit of a come to Jesus 191 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 5: moment for. 192 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: Not only Job but the franchise. 193 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: Right because Job burst into this league with so much 194 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: energy electricity, was able to do so many things around 195 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: the basket that has decreased every year every year. His shooting, 196 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: which was something we thought he could work and get 197 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 5: better at, instead has decreased every year on us at 198 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: a low right now. And when he is not happy, 199 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: he is not playing the brand of basketball. 200 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: That will make him simple moodie player. 201 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: Right. 202 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: The problem has been throughout his entire time in Memphis 203 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 5: is that Jow wants to do what Jaw wants to do, 204 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: whether it's on the court playing the way he wants 205 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 5: to play. Right now he's in conflict with the coaching 206 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 5: staff over their substitution patterns, or whether it's off the court. 207 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: I want to do this. I want to go to clubs, 208 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: I want to have a gun, I want to do 209 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: these things. 210 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 5: What is good for Jaw in his mind has not 211 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: been historically what is best for the franchise. And finally, 212 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 5: with the suspension the other day, the franchise said, we're 213 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: going to hold you in line with what's best for 214 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 5: the franchise and we'll see what happens. I don't think 215 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 5: Memphis is in a position to trade him for a 216 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 5: couple of reasons. First of all, I think the market 217 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: for him right now is not very good, and a 218 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: lot of people don't want to bring. 219 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: That kind of energy onto their team. 220 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 5: And also, I think we underestimate nationally the attachment that 221 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: the people of Memphis have to Jah Moran, and that 222 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: he is the reason there are fans in the seats 223 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 5: that's an arena whose lease is up soon, their attendance 224 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 5: is extremely low. 225 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: I think they need to keep. 226 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 5: Him there on the court, but they have got to 227 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 5: figure out a way to reconcile the fact that he 228 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 5: wants to do what he sees is best for him 229 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: and they want to do what they see is best 230 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 5: for the team. 231 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's really interesting. This just popped into my 232 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: head for whatever reasons. The wide receiver position in the NFL, 233 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: the boundary receiver. You know, they break the huddle first. 234 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: They're often the longest, most creative, gifted athlete on the field, 235 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: and you know, diva receivers like a term. The problem 236 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: with being that is that as college football has progressed, 237 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: it's a much more throwing sport. There's fifteen to twenty 238 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: receivers that come college to the pros annually, and nobody 239 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: puts up with it anymore. Where I think Jaws in 240 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: trouble is the global scale of basketball talent has increased, 241 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: so people look at John think. I mean it used 242 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: to be Rachel that after about the fourteenth pick you 243 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: ran out of player's in the draft. Now you go 244 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: mid second round. I mean in a terrible draft. Browny 245 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: goes mid second and has actually looked good. So I 246 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: don't think there's a huge market for Jaw, is there. 247 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just he's put himself in a difficult position, 248 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: which is a shame because he walked in with everyone's 249 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 5: sort of admiration and fantastic town intentions. Look, I think 250 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 5: the global game has made the American game step up. 251 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: We have great young American stars right now, right starting 252 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: with Anthony Edwards. Of course, Kate Cunningham, Jaylen Williams, who. 253 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: Just won a title. 254 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: Cooper had one bad game. 255 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: Right, I mean he's obviously incredibly promising and Shake Gilders Alexander. 256 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 5: I know he was the teenth you know, foreign player 257 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 5: to win MVP. 258 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: He's Canadian. 259 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 5: He grew up in the AAU style system. You know, 260 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 5: he played a bunch of He wasn't didn't on an 261 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: AAU team because of where he grew up, but he 262 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: played in a bunch of AAU tournaments. He went to Kentucky, Like, 263 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: let's not pretend that he didn't have the same upbringing 264 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 5: as these American players. So you're seeing a lot of 265 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 5: successes in this country, and of course then globally we 266 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: are getting to your point about maturity. We have not 267 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: just a bunch of players from Slovenia. We have Slovenia's 268 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 5: best player. You kind of have to be the best. 269 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 5: It's like we send to a foreign league, we're sending 270 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: you Lebron, right, so they're sending us their version of Lebron. 271 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: We have Serbia's best player. 272 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: Oh, we have the best talent, but there are these 273 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: iconic every other year global players. That's the best of Europe, right, 274 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Gianna. 275 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 5: Sent Kupo isn't just a good player in Greece the 276 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: way I don't know. Kate Cunningham is a very good 277 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 5: player in America. He's the best player in the entire 278 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 5: country and in fact of many surrounding countries too. I mean, 279 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: that's who you're getting, So comparing them is not always 280 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 5: an apples to earn you apples to apples comparison. But 281 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 5: I think it's really an interesting point in the game. 282 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: To your point is that these international players have helped 283 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 5: American players also step up up all the way across, 284 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 5: and there's just so much talent in the league right 285 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 5: now that if you can't see your way to be 286 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 5: a good teammate, if you can't see your way to 287 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: help the team win as opposed to help you do 288 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 5: what you want to do, you're not going to last 289 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: as long. 290 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: Well. 291 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: I always ask you a next question. 292 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: They've won three in a row, just hammered a good 293 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: Minnesota team, So I didn't like getting rid of TIBs. 294 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: I didn't think he was super creative. I know Mike. 295 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: Mike Brown's a great guy. He's a veteran, he knows 296 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: his stuff. What's the talk in New York. Now, the 297 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: TIBs firing was strange based on the best season for 298 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: the next and two decades. But they're playing okay. I 299 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: kind of think the next personnel is what it is. 300 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't think the coach is going to Mike Brown's 301 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: not going to elevate or I mean, what do you 302 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: make of it? 303 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 5: Look, they are playing deeper into the bench than they 304 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: ever did under TIBs, and that will help them in 305 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: the playoffs because they'll have more guys with more experience 306 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 5: to go to and that is what management wanted, right 307 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: They thought that, Hey, that's one part that's missing the 308 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: style that Mike Brown plays. I think when we saw 309 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: the Knicks have a little trouble at the. 310 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: Beginning of the season, it was just adapting to that. 311 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: I think Carl Anthony Towns is still trying to figure 312 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 5: out who he is in this system. 313 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 4: But I do think that will come. 314 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 5: And Mike Brown is a great coach in getting guys 315 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: sort of together and emotional and the stuff we were 316 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 5: talking about well. 317 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: Top with JJ Reddick. 318 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 5: He knows how to have a locker room sort of 319 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: get that extra step that Detroit Pistons two thousand and 320 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 5: four extra step of we want to play for each other, 321 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: we like each other, and you know, we saw it 322 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 5: in Sacramento. He turned that franchise around in that way, 323 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: and I think we're going to see that in New 324 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: York too. 325 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: It's just a question of management. 326 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 5: Said when getting to the game six of the Eastern 327 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: Conference Finals isn't good enough. You are saying that for 328 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: Mike Brown to be successful, he has to win a 329 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 5: title or at least get to the finals, and that's 330 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: not guaranteed. 331 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: Jay Mac, I want you to listen closely. Rachel. 332 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: I saw her offset today made a point. Steph Curry 333 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: and I have something in common. 334 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: What is it? 335 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, both of them are out today with them so 336 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: you know. Hall of Fame All Stars, right. 337 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: I also told Colin that the tenor of the Jets 338 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: talk on this show has greatly changed when I was 339 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: here yesterday. 340 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: Fame All Stars. 341 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: I like how you reference it kind of respect I 342 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: so richly deserved. 343 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 344 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: I love having you on the show. 345 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: It's great to see you. 346 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: Great to see you. Jay Mack with the news, Turn 347 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: on the news. This is the headline news all right, 348 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers. Let's start by talking about the forty 349 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: nine Ers. 350 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 7: They made the low risk move adding keyon White ahead 351 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 7: of the deadline. Ultimately, at six and three, San Francisco 352 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 7: is in the thick of. 353 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: The NFC playoff. 354 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 7: On Kyle Shanahan doesn't believe the team's inactivity at the 355 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 7: deadline is a reflection of their goals. 356 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 8: I don't think it has to do with how we 357 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 8: do this year's team. I think we worked just as 358 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 8: hard this year to make a trade that made sense 359 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 8: for our team this year and next year, just as 360 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 8: hard as we do every year. And there's a lot 361 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 8: of teams with records like six and three or better 362 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 8: than didn't make any big trade. 363 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: They're not. 364 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 8: Just because you make a big trade doesn't mean it's 365 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 8: always a smart move. 366 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: The line is interesting at four and a half. How 367 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: do you not like the Niners at home to cover 368 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: that is a lot in a division rivalry game. 369 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 7: The problem is the Niners can't pressure the quarterback now, 370 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 7: They just cannot. They don't have anybody. Williams is out, 371 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: Huff was out, Bosa's done. 372 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: Like. 373 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 7: They can't get to the quarterback. So now you're leaning 374 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 7: on a kind of an inferior secondary. They're playing a 375 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 7: lot of new guys I feel like the Rams are 376 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 7: scoring thirty for sure. Depends on that in the question 377 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 7: is can they slow down Mac Jones? They could not 378 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 7: at so far in a revenge spot. I have a 379 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 7: feeling the Rams show up here. 380 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: You don't, uh, it's. 381 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: You know, these division rivalry games are always different. A 382 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: lot of tough divisions. Even Miami Buffalo's tough this weekend. 383 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: There's a lot of divisional matchives that kind of scare me. 384 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: Just to Tad Saints Panthers. Everybody loves the Panthers Anthers. 385 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know what to do here, Rams signers, 386 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: this is maybe one. You'll watch it, you live bet it. 387 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: Each score on the first drive and this is down 388 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: to three, then yeah, I'll. 389 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: Take the ranks. Yeah, good call. All right, let's move on. 390 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 7: Next story is your guy Bo Knicks and the Broncos 391 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 7: Huge one tonight Colin Denver, seven and three. We know 392 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 7: Chiefs fans around the country are watching rooting for the 393 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 7: Raiders bow Knicks. These divisional games, man, they're important. 394 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: To us. 395 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 9: First, we got to win them. These are the ones 396 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 9: that have the most way to them. These are the 397 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 9: ones that you you got to go in there and 398 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 9: win to set yourself up for the the playoffs, and 399 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 9: so as a team, these are the most important for 400 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 9: US rivalries. And you know these are the fun ones 401 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 9: and it's like playing a conference game and uh in college, 402 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 9: these are the ones that you look forward to. These 403 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 9: are why you know you're a Bronco to be be 404 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 9: teams like. 405 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: This weird stat for you column. 406 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 7: So the first three this season Denver cumulative score minus 407 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 7: one in the fourth quarter plus sixty for whatever reason, they. 408 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Turn it on late. 409 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 7: If you want to get exotic, and I maybe bet 410 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 7: the Raiders first quarter. 411 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the lion is again, it's a divisional matchup. 412 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: The line's outrageous nine and a half. Well here, how 413 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: about this? So last week against the Jags, right, Raiders 414 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: you know were in it. It was close. 415 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 7: The Jags scored on their last six drives of the game. 416 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 7: Once the Raiders defense got tired, they just Jags mowed 417 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 7: through them. That's without Travis Hunter. Brian Thomas left early. 418 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 7: Bo Nicks and companies should mode right down the field 419 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 7: against these guys, you would think. 420 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: And defensively it's been a a I swear to god, 421 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: this I mean like Seattle hammering the Commanders in DC 422 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: Arizona dominating the Cowboys. 423 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 2: It's week to week in this league. 424 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: Like my preseason predictions have been really really good so 425 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: far this year. I had New England shocking people. I 426 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: had Seattle shocking people week to week in this league. 427 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: So you're not taking raiders here, are you? 428 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 6: Uh? 429 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: Or maybe take the points, but not outright? 430 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just nine and a half. Feel stay away. 431 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 3: You know what I was for hiring Pete Carroll? 432 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: What do we make of it? 433 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 7: Now? 434 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: I'll let you take that one, buddy. Yeah, I don't 435 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: know how I feel like I got. Chip Kelly is 436 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: the OC. 437 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 7: I remember talking to him at your birthday party and 438 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 7: I was like, I love Chim Kelly. It's been a 439 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 7: tough go, like Ashton Gent. 440 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: You have seen some of the numbers. It's like a 441 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: non factor. Yeah, nothing's working. I don't I don't know. 442 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: Final story, Calm, let's go to Oh this news stinks. 443 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 7: C J. Stroud of the Texans was ruled out yesterday. 444 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 7: Remember midweek they ruled him out. He took a brutal hit. 445 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 7: I'm with Damiko Ryans. I thought that was a dirty play. 446 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 7: We gotta protect quarterbacks in this league. Colin, you know, 447 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 7: we got to see Marcus Mariota and Washington the rest 448 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 7: of the season. 449 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: You know, they're in a European game next week. 450 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 7: And I'm not wicking who's waking up a six thirty 451 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 7: watch more because Mariota. 452 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Now we got c J. Stroud out Davis mills I mean, 453 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: he's even a corner TV game for you. I mean 454 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: I watch Davis Millson's recorders because I had Houston last week. 455 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: No that there's a game every weekend that I just 456 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: don't watch. 457 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: This is the game. Well, I'm kind of intrigued by 458 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: the Jaguars here. I don't know. I'm glad somebody is. 459 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 7: I mean, I like Trevor Lawrence till I think addingm 460 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 7: Jacobe Myers, he's good man. 461 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: No, you know what he is is Brian. I mean 462 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 3: Travis Hunter hasn't done anything. They should have just put 463 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: him on offense. Forget about defense. 464 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: That was dumb. 465 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: You know, that's something everybody talked about and debated, and 466 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: I from the very beginning I said, put Travis Hunter 467 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: on offense. A. It's the most important part of pro football. 468 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: Number two is I can guarantee twelve touches. I can't 469 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: guarantee you touch the ball on defense, so I can 470 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: literally people can scheme against you. I'd rather control my 471 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: talent then you control it. If I have a great corner, 472 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: you can largely control how often the ball is thrown 473 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: in his direction. With Travis Hunter on offense, I control 474 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: how many touches. I can put him in the backfield, 475 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: I can put him in a slot, I can put 476 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: him on the sideline. I like controlling my assets and 477 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: putting him on defense. 478 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: At his talent, Well, I'm just. 479 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 3: Gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to the other side 480 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: of the field. So, I mean, I don't think Jacksonville's 481 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: ever played it right with him. 482 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: Final question, c J Stroud rookie year awesome. 483 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: C J. 484 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: Stroud's second year less awesome. C J Stroud has not 485 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: been good this year? 486 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 7: Come. I mean, at this point, I don't know what 487 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 7: he is. I'm not saying he's not a franchise quarterback. 488 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 7: It's a little like Trevor Lawrence. We know he's talent, yeah, 489 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 7: but we keep waiting for the next thing. 490 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: The next iteration of his process and when he's gonna learn. 491 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: We haven't seen it. We haven't seen it. 492 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 7: You know, we saw that with Joe Burrow. We saw 493 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 7: that with Lamar Jackson. No, I haven't seen Stroud take 494 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 7: the leave. I'm not saying he's not a franchise guy, 495 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 7: but I think there's questions like, you know, is he 496 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 7: a backs are you paying him like what top of 497 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 7: the market when he's asked for the money, are you 498 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 7: are you making him well? 499 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: I mean remember he's inexpensive now, so you can surround 500 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: him with more talent now than you will in three years. 501 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: How much longer because this is his third year. 502 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jmack of the News, Well that's the news, 503 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: and thanks for stopping by the. 504 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. All Right, we're in La. It's the Herd. 505 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 506 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: at noon. Easter not a Empacific. 507 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: We had noted on this earlier. I don't think there's 508 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 3: ever been a city in a time period that has 509 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 3: had more good coaches currently than La. Dave Roberts just 510 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 3: pulled off Houdiniacs in the World Series. He'll be a 511 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame manager. JJ Ruddick has been really terrific 512 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: with the Lakers. I mean, say what you want about 513 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: last year when he didn't but he buddy in the 514 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: second half. But he's a notch above Darvenham and Laker 515 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: fans love him. And then you've got Jim Harbaugh Sean McVay. 516 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: I still contend Lincoln Riley offensively is one of the 517 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: sharpest coaches in college football US. He's got a top 518 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: five offense. It just it feels like everybody works in 519 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: LA right now. It just doesn't happen very often. And 520 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: Reddick was one of those guys that, you know, there's 521 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: the old thing, you got to have experience to be 522 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: a head coach. 523 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: A lot of it's just intellect. 524 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: If you're a really smart guy and you've been around 525 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: the game and you understand the game, and if you 526 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: listen to his podcast, very sharp guy. 527 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: But Steve Nash was a sharp guy. 528 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: He went to Brooklyn, but the environment wasn't very good 529 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: because Kyrie and Kadi didn't think they needed a head coach. 530 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: I do think part of what really helps JJ Reddick 531 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: is and he's fostered a lot of this. 532 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: The environment's better. 533 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: You know, Luke is easy to get along with, Austin 534 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: Reeve's easy to get along with. The new ownership group, Ruie. 535 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: Most of the people I don't think Lebron's difficult. I 536 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: think Lebron in his prime there was a lot of 537 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: gravitas to Lebron and how you treated him. I think 538 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: old Lebron that JJ Reddick really has hand. He has leverage. 539 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 3: Lebron does not, and with this new ownership group, they're 540 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: not beholden to Lebron. So JJ comes in to a 541 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: franchise he's got star players, nice role players, new ownership, 542 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: and old Lebron. If Lebron was twenty seven, this could 543 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: be a much tougher job. But instead you have clarity 544 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: on who your number one is and Lebron doesn't really 545 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: have any leverage or power at this point. And that's 546 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: not a knock on Lebron, it's just the reality. Here's 547 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: Rachel Nichols moments ago on JJ Reddick. 548 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: JJ in terms of x's and o's, he's just so 549 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: excellent at putting a player in the exact position where 550 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: he's going to succeed. So technically he's always got guys 551 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 5: in the right place. And I think that's part of 552 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 5: what's going on with DeAndre Eyton Frankly, who has been 553 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 5: a huge part of this early seventy two run, but 554 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: you know, wasn't really doing that in other cities, and 555 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 5: now JJ's putting him in the exact positions he needs. 556 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when an athlete's the NBA, you know, 557 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: is kind of weirdly always been a bit of a 558 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: status league. You know, guys want their respect and the 559 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: players got more power than the coach. That's very rarely 560 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: the instance. In the NFL, it's the shield is number 561 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: one coach ownership, with very few exceptions to star players. 562 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: But in the end, Belichick state and Brady had to leave. 563 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: Like it's always kind of felt like it's more of 564 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: a management league than a players league. But Lebron in 565 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: this league where he's had hand and leverage and status 566 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: and he just doesn't have it anymore. And Charles Barkley, 567 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: we used this earlier today, talked about aging Lebron for. 568 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 10: All the time, always gonna win. There's nothing you can 569 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 10: do about it, you know, I joked on the show 570 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 10: a couple he's going to head just say Sciatica. They 571 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 10: could have just row old. It's exact same thing. All 572 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 10: old people back hurt. You know, he's got to accept. 573 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 10: I hope he leaves sooner than later. Obviously, Lebron's a 574 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 10: better player than me, But I don't want to see 575 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 10: great players just hanging on. 576 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Lebron's smart enough to understand 577 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: his place right now with the Lakers. 578 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you were there last night. There's no negative energy. 579 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: He's not going on the road trip, but there's no negative, 580 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: weird vibe around him right now. 581 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 7: The vibes are great with the Lakers. Charles Berkley's way, 582 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 7: he could not be more wrong. 583 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: Colin. 584 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: Two years ago, Lebron played seventy one out of eighty 585 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 7: two games and was third team All NBA. Last year, 586 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 7: he played seventy of eighty two games. He was second 587 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 7: team All NBA, sixth at MVP. He's not falling off, 588 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 7: that's just there's zero evidence of that. No, it's because 589 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 7: he's out with sciatica. No, I think, oh no, oh 590 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: my gosh, he's getting old. Like, what the hell is 591 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 7: Berkeley talking about? 592 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: Well, I think Lebron is a little like staph that 593 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: the offense has in his career run through him. Kevin Durant, 594 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: the offense even in OKC when he was in his prime, 595 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: didn't run through him. The Warriors didn't run through him. 596 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: It ran through staph. There are players who are great 597 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 3: players that I mean the Lakers, the offense ran through magic, 598 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: even though Kareem was the primary score. But the offense ran. 599 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: The pacing ran through magic. It was Magic's offense. And 600 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: when they needed a bucket, they went to the Big Fellow. 601 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 3: But the offense ran through magic. His decision making his pace, 602 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: his tempo, he had the ball in his hands. Lebron's 603 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 3: always been he is the ecosystem, Like, here's the offense, 604 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: here's Lebron, and in his prime for thirteen years or 605 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: fourteen years, that was fine, but he was a much 606 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: more dominant player in the East, which is awful compared 607 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: relative to the West. So in the West you've got 608 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: to be in your prime and great Jokic, you know. 609 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the West right now, 610 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: it's going to be won by like Ants great and 611 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: in his prime. Yoki's great and in his prime. Wemby 612 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: he's not even in his prime yet, SGSGA great and 613 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: his prime. Lebron's really really exceptional, way out of his prime. Yeah, 614 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: there's limitations on what you can do to give him 615 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: the ball forty minutes tonight. 616 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 7: This is a great point you're making and I we 617 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 7: don't know the answer to what I'm about to ask. 618 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: So the reason I have Lebron over Jordan has to go. 619 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 7: So Jordan was just scoring and then was put in 620 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 7: the triangle text and Phil Jackson triangle, and. 621 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: Then he thrived. Lebron has thrived as the system wherever 622 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: he's gone. Right Cleveland, he's the system. They go to Miami, 623 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: he's the system. 624 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 7: Now we have to find out can Lebron thrive as 625 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 7: he's what he's an Angelarry Park right, can he thrive 626 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 7: in that environment? Nobody knows the answer to that. For 627 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 7: Berkeley to pretend he knows, he's being goofy. I don't 628 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 7: see why Lebron, a pros pro, can't be like you 629 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 7: need me to do this at my age. Yeah, Luca's better. 630 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 7: There's a video last night of Luca the over the 631 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 7: head pass to RUI. Lebron looks at Nix and they're like, 632 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 7: oh my gosh. I think everybody knows Luca is the guy. 633 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 7: He is the alpha and the omego with the Lakers 634 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 7: right now, right he's everything. Yeah, Ken, Lebron just work 635 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 7: in it. I'm going to be positive and say, yeah, 636 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 7: I think he can. Yeah, it's just his stylistically. He's 637 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 7: an interesting fit. When he doesn't have the ball, you 638 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 7: know he's he's not Kd's a great. 639 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: Off ball player. Klay Thompson was a great off ball player. 640 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: Some guys need they need it in their hands. 641 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: Is he going to be a cutter? Is he a 642 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: spot up shooter? I don't think so. No, JJ Redick 643 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: Scott has worked cut out right because they're rolling. 644 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 7: Now you show the standings. This is a good Lakers team. 645 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 7: Last year they had Jackson haz at center. Now they've 646 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 7: got DeAndre Aytons. 647 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Well. Aidens has been super offensively talented. He's moody, he 648 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: will not play defense. He goes into a funk. You 649 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 3: know he's I The way I sort of look at 650 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: DeAndre Ayton is JJ Reddick will get the best out 651 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: of him. 652 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: But he he sulks. 653 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: He aight and seen himself for a one or a two, 654 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: and he's probably a three or four. But he was 655 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: I think he was a number one pick out of Arizona. 656 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: So he comes in with all this status and the 657 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: NBA it's a kind of a status league. 658 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: Guys want theirs. 659 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 7: But everybody saw him in Portland They're like, oh, he's garbage, 660 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: he doesn't want to play, he's checked out. It's not 661 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 7: what you are right now, it's what you can be. 662 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 7: And with Luca and Lebron and JJ Reddick whipping him 663 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 7: into shape, Deandreen looks like the number like a top 664 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 7: five pick that we should have been. 665 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: Well he was always physically gifted, yeah, but he just 666 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: never really put it all together right. He was like, 667 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: I got to get that second contract. 668 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, he felt he was ignored in Phoenix. He felt 669 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 3: he was ignored in Portland that didn't use him. So 670 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: JJ Reddick's doing a good job. There's something about his 671 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: tone and temperament. He feels valuable total. Now again, will 672 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: he feel as valuable like last night? Well, there's no 673 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: Lebron in Austin Reeves, so he gets touches. The truth is, 674 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: if Lebron Austin Reeves and Luca plays and Rui Ayton 675 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: doesn't get any touches. So that's a whole because Rui's 676 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: a nice player. 677 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 7: Is Ayton gonna pout? I mean, you get a pout 678 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 7: with Luka Dancic out here, you're second in the West 679 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 7: and all of a sudden you're going from twenty to ten. 680 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: To like, I don't know. Eight and seven, yeah, I 681 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: don't want to give the pouting dude, you want to 682 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: win games eight and last night got looks and touches. 683 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. I hope he understands that. 684 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: Well. I don't know if he does. NFL schedule this weekend. 685 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 3: Denver's gonna win tonight. The question at home is how 686 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: much they win by? I m sometimes I don't quite 687 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: understand the line. Indianapolis feels like they got pushed around. 688 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna hammer Atlanta. It's my favorite bet 689 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: of the weekend. The Colts, favorite Colts, and in hammering, 690 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna hammer Atlanta. 691 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: I hope so. I think I'm I'm on them. 692 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 7: The Tampa Bay, New England one is when I'm keep 693 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 7: drilling down on I think we're gonna do it tomorrow 694 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 7: and headlines. 695 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to give away my take, but you have. 696 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 7: Any reader, Drake Maye, this will be the best quarterback 697 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 7: the Patriots have faced since Josh Allen, like five months ago. 698 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 7: Paygers haven't played anybody. Colin well, they yeah, the Falcons 699 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 7: are nobody. Sorry, I don't I don't see any glaring upsets. 700 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 7: A game that's very interesting is Arizona at Seattle. So 701 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 7: Arizona looks great against Dallas short week, they go to 702 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 7: Seattle looked unbelievable, unbelievable. You know, it's we did this earlier. 703 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 7: We did our pyramid. 704 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: If you look at quarterback play, just based on this year, 705 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: the best quarterback in the league is Sam Darnal. Josh 706 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: Allen and Matt Stafford are one notch below. And now 707 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: they just gave Sam Darnold arguably the fastest wide receiver 708 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: in the league as a deep threat. So I'm interested 709 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: to see how that plays. You know, it's not like 710 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: they're asking him to be an offensive lineman and build cohesion. 711 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: He is a deep route runner, so he may be 712 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: able to walk in Seattle and immediately be an impact guy. 713 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: You know. The Monday night Philadelphia at Green Bay, everybody 714 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: loves the Packers. 715 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: He goes off a bye, Sirianni, is he able to 716 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: change things up? He's not really a skiing guy. 717 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not really him. All right, good stuff. Rachel 718 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: Nicols stopped by today. We certainly appreciate that. And tomorrow's 719 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: our blazing five. We had three straight winning weeks two 720 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: and three last week. We'll rebound. That's what we do. 721 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: We're like Rodman, always there for the rebound.