WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 10/26: Defending Mobile QBs, Jets Preview, QB Situation (Where Do We Go From Here?) 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.520 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:12.480 Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm Lazar, Hello, everybody, nailed it? 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:18.800 Joined us always by hours, David match scheduled here. He's 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.640 Evan Lazar and Alex barr band is back together page. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.280 Hello everybody, and welcome into a new Patriots Catch twenty 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.120 two podcasts right here on Patriots dot com. Evan Lazar 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.720 Alex Barth has always coming to you on a Wednesday 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.040 regular time. Today, Alex and have to do it early 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.440 regular time. We got some extra time too, because locker 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.080 rooms not until four pm, so we'll have some time 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.159 to talk to you guys over the next hour or so, 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.159 let's call it an hour plus. But not not what 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.600 I was expecting to be talking about today, Alex. I 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.320 thought we were going to come into the show today 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:59.800 on a three game winning streak, with the conversation being 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:05.120 were driven by Okay, how real is this right? Did 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.080 they just beat up on bad teams like they did 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.959 at times last year during that seven game winning streak? 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.280 And how much can stock can we put into it? 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:17.720 In all this type of thing, I could never imagine 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.240 that we would be sitting in a position not necessarily 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.800 look at any given Sunday or any given Monday in 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.240 this case, that things can happen and you can lose 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.959 games to any team in the NFL. But this really 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:34.120 feels like a franchise altering sort of moment, right because 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.400 you drafted this quarterback in the first round of the 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.959 draft last year. And I don't think that the decision 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.040 to not go with Mac moving forward at least for 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:50.600 this season, if that is the decision, is ankle related, right, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.440 I don't think this is an injury related decision. I 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.680 think this would be more performance related decision. And that 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.560 means that you're kind of pressing the reset button at 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.559 that position, which obviously means we're in a totally different 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.680 charted water then if they had just played poorly against 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.480 Chicago and lost the game, right, this is a much 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.720 bigger conversation than that. I do want to get into 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:17.160 how each quarterback and specifically Mac actually played in the game. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.919 Not necessarily all the drama, but I think you have 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.440 to address the elephant of the room off the top, 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.920 and that this is a dramatic moment for this organization 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:31.040 right now. Yeah, yeah, you know, everybody's kind of I've 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.960 seen people trying to nail down what did this game 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.320 feel like, what it looked like. The game that came 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.720 to mind for me was the twenty twenty game against 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.480 the Niners. Yeah, and the Patriots had had some success 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.359 early in the year. They lost that tough one and 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.040 you know, they lost late in Seattle. They lost the 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.200 tough one against Kansas City when cam at COVID. They 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.880 came back the next week they played a close one 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.400 against the Broncos after a COVID riddle week, and it 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.400 was like, hey, you know, there might be something here. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.440 They've had some stuff to overcome, but they've put some 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.480 competitive football on tape when they're healthy. You know, the 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.600 Niners weren't great that year. They were three and three 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.320 coming into that game. They end up finishing six and 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.040 ten and it was twenty six six. The score didn't, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.120 i would say, accurately reflect how lopsided that game was. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.440 And that was the first time in that season it 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.200 was like, Okay, they might need to hit the reset 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.960 button on this. And I'm not saying that it's totally 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.440 time for reset, but that game really had you. I 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.040 don't think you're looking at that game and thinking, okay, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.679 like you know they, like you said, it's not like 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.040 they played poorly, and it happens any given Sunday. You 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.200 move on. That game kind of makes you reflect on 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.800 the bigger picture outlook of the team. Yeah, I think 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.240 that's where we're at, unfortunately. And you can give us 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.120 a call. Two calls already Alex on the call screen 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.400 right now, so already calling in. We're gonna get to 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.119 you guys here in the second after we break down 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.560 these two quarterbacks. But five pats, five hundreds the number 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.960 web radio at Patriots dot com if you want to 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.200 email us, already have an email too. So we got 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.400 we got a lot of feedback from fans here that 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:58.720 I wanted. I think we need to hear from the 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.120 I know we're gonna get into the quarters. I think 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.520 I need to hear from the people today. I think 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.720 it's that kind of show. It definitely is. So I 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.960 want to talk about how mac Jones actually played in 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.040 this game and sort of break down the nine dropbacks 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.960 eight if you want to take the penalty negating play 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.240 off the board that he actually had. And I think 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.560 what I've come at this all the time in the 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:24.680 same way, and that is from a coaching standpoint when 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:29.160 you chart when you watch, even at home. I think 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.200 a lot of people can watch this game live on 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.200 Monday night that probably don't dive back into the All 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.720 twenty two or even a replay of a game like 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.000 we do and really dissect what was going on on 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.840 the field, can watch it at home and say, this 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:47.839 seems like a much different style of offense that they're 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.800 playing with one quarterback versus the other. And the best 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.680 way that you can break it down is that mac Jones, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.880 for all intents and purposes, is running a vertical passing offense. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.400 And I can't. I think the first play of the 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.000 game for both quarterbacks sums it up perfectly. First play 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:11.440 of the game for mac Jones, he gets the line 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:16.640 of scrimmage in shotgun eleven personnel, three wide receiver, and 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.920 he comes to the line of scrimmage and they had 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.840 a pass play called in the huddle to pass the 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.200 football out of that formation, and he didn't like the look, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.839 and he checks in to a run. So we're already 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.520 making changes at the line of scrimmage, right He's already 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.800 coming in. He's changing to the play, changing the play 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.600 to a run, resetting them point you can see the 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:42.320 communication happening on the broadcast. Very first play of the game, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.640 he's already changing plays. He's already making these types of 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.679 decisions at the line of scrimmage. He's already spreading the field. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.640 They're already three wide receiver gun, all that kind of stuff. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.960 And then Bailey Zappy gets into the game. He's also 0:05:56.040 --> 0:06:00.520 in the shotgun, but they snapped the ball and he's 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.440 got a slant to his left, he's got a stick 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.760 or hitched to the tight end, and he's got a 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.279 flat route on the backside and a vertical just clearing 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.800 it out. But basically nobody is running down the field 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:18.599 for Bailey's abby right, it is all easy, digestible reads 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.680 and throws, and he hits Johnny Smith for like a 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.320 four yard completion. I'm not saying it was some crazy 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.960 throw or crazy read or anything like that. But when 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.880 your quarterback going back to mac, when your quarterback hasn't 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.360 played in three weeks and your bomb's away as soon 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.120 as he gets back into the game, that's not easing 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.960 your quarterback back in, right, that's throwing him right back 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.599 into the fire. But then when Bailey comes in the game, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.280 they eased him in right, they run. They run a 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.719 quick game concept and they're back under center and they're 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.200 they're managing it for some play action in there. Yeah, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.400 with Mac, you know, they're running why Cross, They're running 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.600 nine eight nine, they're running you know, all these are 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.240 all vertical concepts, right, These are down the field first down, 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.440 first and ten. I talked about this unfiltered. They run 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.120 y cross, which is you know, it's really z cross, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.560 I guess for them. But Jacobe Meyers runs a crossing route. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.760 Tai Kwon runs a vertical, and the idea is it's 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.800 single high safety, so the safety can only help to 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.040 one vertical. Right, you can either cut off the crossing 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.080 route or stay over the top of the vertical. But 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.920 he can't do both. And that's sort of the stress 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.680 that they're trying to put on the defense. But either way, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.560 that's a twenty yard plus pass no matter what. So 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.400 first and ten from their own twenty three yard line, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.360 they spread the field. They run a vertical passing concept 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.560 with Mac Jones, and they're pushing the sucker down the 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.720 field and I'm thinking to myself, where's the drive starter? Like, 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.440 we're not in a shot play area right when we 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.160 talk about shot play as we think about maybe like 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.720 the thirty to the forty five of the opponent right 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.680 on the other side of the field, Let's take a 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.200 shot here and dial something up to get to the 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.360 end zone, like the touchdown that Zach through to Jacoby Myers, right, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.560 Like those types of down and distances are good for 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.960 taking shots down the field because you're trying to get 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.280 it into the end zone. But when you're on your 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.520 own side of the field and it's first and ten, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.680 they just kicked it deep and you're just playing football 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.280 at that point between the twenties, like can we get 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.960 something easy? Can we get a slant? Can we get 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.440 a hitch? Can we get some play action? Like just 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.960 something that makes Mac feel good about himself, Like I 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.320 got a completion, we got some positive yards, we're moving 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.199 in the right direction, and then sever bombs away. And 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.120 I think the biggest takeaway that I'm getting at here 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.959 I get your opinion on it, is this is the 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.760 playbook on how to ruin a first round quarterback. And 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.880 we used to make fun of other teams, Like we 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.920 used to sit here and say, oh, like that's this 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.199 team doesn't know what they're doing, right, Like this is 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.400 this is bad, Like, this is how you know this 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.719 kid was promising at one point or he's a good 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.720 prospect coming out or whatever, and they just completely botched 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.880 his development. So now for Mac Jones, from year one 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.160 to year two, he goes from Josh McDaniels to Matt 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.680 Patricia as his offensive play caller. They've completely changed the scheme. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.760 Now he's in a vertical passing offense when he was 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.040 in a short and intermediate passing game last year with McDaniels. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.240 They're not running play action, they're not dressing it up 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.400 for him at all. So they're making him basically just 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.160 read a full field progression and make a great throw somewhere. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.679 And then they're making it easy on Zappy. And I 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.559 think a lot of people say, well, shouldn't it be 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.400 easier for the rookie? Right, you got to you gotta 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.199 make it easier on the rookie. But can we find 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.800 a middle ground, like, can we can we strike a 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.920 balance like because right now it feels like they from 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.760 year one to year two, they have made Mac make 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.280 like a leap that you probably make from like year 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.079 one to year five, right right, like they've expedited that 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.160 process for him and now as a result, his decision 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.600 making is all thrown off, Like he's making poor decisions 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.400 with the football, he's locking on to first reads, not 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:01.240 progressing past the first read. He's not playing good mentally 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.560 as well as physically. And when they drafted him mentally 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.800 was the whole thing right, Like accuracy decision making that 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.680 was supposed to be his calling card and they've completely 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.200 ruined his brain, Like his brain needs to be recalibrated 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.839 and refocused and it's just not at the moment. But 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:23.240 what's your read on I guess the two different styles, right, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.120 like how they're kind of catering to Zappi versus how 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.120 they're putting Mac into this vertical based system. Yeah. I 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.319 mean we talked about this last week. When Mac comes back, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.240 are they going to go back to the week one 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.480 through three offenses that the Mac offense or did they 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.280 realize that didn't work? That was kind of the big 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.679 question and they've gone back to it. It does feel 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.079 like when Mac is in the game, and I think 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:44.920 Mac feels this way too, and I think this is 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.240 where some of the problems stem from. They're just asking 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.080 him to go out there and make a play. They're 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.240 asking him to go out there basically and beat Patrick Mahomes, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.839 and I think he feels some pressure to do that, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.920 and that's not who he is. That's not to say 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.640 he can't be a good quarterback. You can be a good, 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.480 starting caliber coack and not be Patrick Mahomes. Those players exist, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.079 But it almost feels like he has all this what 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.880 just watching him, it feels like he has pressure on 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.000 him to make that play down the field, to fit 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.120 that ball into a tight window. That's why he's taking 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.880 so many risks. And now you add to it, well, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.480 now he's playing for his job. At least that's kind 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.719 of what it looks like, right, So I think you 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.760 just you just used a good a good term. They're like, 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.960 it's like from year one to year five, right, they're 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.760 just suddenly putting the entire offense on his plate, And look, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.400 is it nice if you have a quarterback you can 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.160 do that with? Sure, that's what three four guys in 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:40.760 the league, if that even even good quarterbacks, and even 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.840 for the best guys, even for a guy like Patrick Mahomes, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.880 the Chiefs still build the offense around him and build 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.199 it to his skill set. They're not asking him to 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.880 do things that he can't do. There's not a lot 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.839 that he can't do, but they're not asking him to 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.240 do things he can't do Lamar Jackson, they're not asking 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.160 him to do things he can't do. They've built that 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.520 offense around him excellently. It's not a knock on a 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.679 quarterback to say, oh, well, the team built the offense 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.439 around him and his skill set. That's just what smart 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.840 teams do. If you have a player who's good at something, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.280 don't you want to maximize what that player can do 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.599 instead of trying to make him do other things. And 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:15.440 it just feels like it felt like last year that's 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.800 exactly what they did. They built this thing around mac 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.319 Jones and they went out, they got him a fifty 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:23.000 fifty guy Intavante Parker grade addition or mandree. With another year, 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.560 they'd be able to do somewhere that run play action stuff. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.760 It felt like, you know, they were really making progress 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.480 towards that, and now the whole offensive system just it 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.560 feels like mac Jones is fighting the system, where last 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.079 year it felt like the system was helping him. That 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.400 doesn't mean system quarterback, but a quarterback and the right 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.640 system can take it to another level. Any guy. And 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.000 now it feels like Mac Jones is fighting the system. Yeah, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.800 and to go kind of play by play with it 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.240 a little bit more. And I guess sorry, let me 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.040 just add this too. What makes it so frustrating is 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.200 with Bailey's Appy, they are playing to a skillson, right. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.840 They are kind of, you know, putting things around him 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.319 and putting him in a spot to succeed. So it's 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.400 not like they can't do it because the skill sets 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.720 are similar. And that's what you want from your starting 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:02.599 quarterback and your backup quarterback. You want them to have 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.120 similar skill sets. So if you have to go to 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.679 the backup, not allow us to change. So that's what 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.800 makes it so confusing, is it's not like, oh, well, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.080 they're running an out offense for Zappy that works for him, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.360 but not one for Mac. But they have two different 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.559 skill sets, so they'd have to change the offense. That's 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.240 not what this is. Yeah, And to your point about 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.960 running an offense that fits your quarterback. So I think 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.040 the play that's going around Twitter right now is the 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.240 one where Jacobe Myers puts his hand up on the 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.280 sideline and looks like he's open. I mentioned nine to 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.360 eighty nine. That's what that is, right, Two verticals on 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.440 the outside, a poster seam up the middle of the field, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.480 and it's under center play action. He comes off to 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.360 the seven step drop play action and his first read 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.120 is up the seam, and the linebacker in the middle 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.880 of the field of the Tampa two defense cover to 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.679 Tampa two does a great job of carrying Hunter Henry 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.320 up the seam, so it's not there ideally. You see 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.840 the safety cheating in, you see the linebacker working over 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.640 the top of the seam. You get out to the 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.000 boundary and you hit Jacobe Myers right. The problem is 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.320 is that the down and distance is around the forty 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:11.719 yard line of of the Bears. It's second down. The 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.800 problem is is that that throw into the cover two 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.040 hole to Jacoby Myers with Jakwan Brisker who picked him 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.080 off later in the game, trying to fit the ball 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.840 into his own coverage hole. That is a heck of 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.040 a throw. If he makes that throw, it's not just 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.680 the read, it's not just seeing the receiver. It's also 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.640 dropping that ball into that cover two hole with the 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.640 velocity that he would need to do it with. After 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.800 it's not even his initial read on the play, so 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.480 he's late a little bit to it as well. I 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.440 think there's probably like four or five quarterbacks in the 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.320 world that can make that throw. If it's Josh Allen, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:52.440 it's Herbert, it's Mahomes, it's these cannon arm quarterbacks. That's 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.640 not Mac Jones, Like, that's not his game. If you're 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.000 asking Mac Jones to fit a ball thirty five yards 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.200 down the field into a cover two hole to find explosives, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.560 then you are doing him a disservice. So we can 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.840 sit here and say all we want that, Oh he 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.840 missed the read or oh he you know, he had 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.600 myers and he should have come off the seam and 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.280 he should have seen this and he should have thrown 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:17.800 this football. That is a throw that if you make 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.640 that throw, the defense tips your cap right tips their cap, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.120 and you write it down PFF would log it as 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.800 a big time throw or a wow throw or whatever 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.160 you want to call it. That is one heck of 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.320 a seat. That's the problem that I find the most 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.520 with what they're doing with Mac is that they're asking 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.920 him to be that guy, right, They're asking him to 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.360 make those types of throws down the field. Okay, if 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.440 you want him to throw a fade from the slaughter 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.160 or a fade from the outside where he just has 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.920 to put some air under it and drop it in 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.760 the bucket. That's more his game. But if you're asking 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.480 him to drive the ball in between two zone defenders, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.640 that is a really difficult throw for anybody to make 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.960 and it just doesn't fit the skill set of your quarterback. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.840 Later on, or it might have been before that, but 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.520 at some other point he hit Hunter Henry over the 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.680 middle on like a twelve yard completion. It's twelve personnel. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.080 They were on Hunter Henry on the dig route, Johnny 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.560 Smith on a little under to hold the defense underneath it, 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.600 and he, with anticipation hits Hunter Henry in the chest. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.920 Twelve yard completion. Stay on schedule, let's move the chains right. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.640 That's Mac Jones. Like when I saw that play, I 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.640 was like, that's the Mac that we saw last year. Like, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.160 that's the guy that we saw last year. Quick read, accurate, throw, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.960 ball is out on time, Like that's the type of 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.800 quarterback that he is. Short intermediate, take your shots with 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.160 fades and things like that down the field with some 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.960 touch and not just with velocity, Like that's the type 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.680 of quarterback that you drafted, So why are we trying 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.360 to make him into this other thing? And it's funny 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.720 because you know, Justin Field is on the other sideline, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.520 and it's like, okay, well, if you wanted the big 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.560 arm quarterback, and he should have just drafted the guy 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.560 you're playing against tonight, not the guy that you have. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.200 So I understand that he did that at Alabama. I 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.360 understand that they had success with it in moments in 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.800 the first three weeks of the season. Certainly against Baltimore 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.119 stands out as a game where they were able to 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.080 push the football down the field. But that is not 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.800 his bread and butter. His bread and butter is the 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.400 Hunter Henry play. It's not the cover two whole forty 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.359 yards down the field. And what I would add to 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.000 that is I think there is a room, there is 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.000 room for mac Jones to make that throw in the offense, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.720 and like you said, he did at Alabama. But the 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.560 trick is you set it up with that underneath stuff, right, 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.640 and the defense cheats up, you know, and you get 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.800 cover one and you're coming down underneath, they're bring a 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.400 robber and then all of a sudden, that stuff down 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.520 the field opens up. I do think mac Jones has 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.600 the arm to make those downfield throws, but like you said, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.879 he's not gonna fit it in between two guys. Right, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.800 there's three or four quarterbacks in the world that can 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.040 make that throw. They're running. It's it's almost like they're 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.440 doing the second the second it with a quarterback like 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.640 mac Jones, and their offense was built like this for years, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.760 even with Brady. Throw the ball to the short intermediate 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.240 and just keep hitting the plays the defense will give you, 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.920 and when the defense steps up to take those away, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.399 then you burn him over the top. Right, It's pretty 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.920 basic there. It almost feels like what the mac Jones 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.520 offenses this year is just skipping that first step of 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.600 the short and intermediate and just going over the top. 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.160 Oh yeah, and when you don't set up that way again, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.960 you're just asking the quarterback to make throws that nobody 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.639 makes on a regular basis. Yeah. I mean, he's ten 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.560 point four air yards per attempt second in the league, right, 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.160 and average air yards perttempt is that is that what's 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.000 best for mac Jones to be second in the league 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.520 and air yards per attempt and to attempt over twenty 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.399 passes of twenty plus yards in the air on one 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.480 hundred and twenty drop backs in four games. Like, that's 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.639 just not the player that that he is and the 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.520 player that you drafted. And maybe, like like we've been saying, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.040 maybe he did that at Alabama, but this isn't Alabama, right, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.520 this isn't the it's also Alabama set it up. You 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.639 have to set it up first, And this isn't the SEC. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.399 And he's not throwing a Davante Smith and John Metchi 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.560 and Jalen Waddle and all these guys that are significantly 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.480 better than the guys that they're going up against in 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.960 the secondary. This is a this is the NFL, and 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.119 you have to adapt to the skill set at the 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.720 player that you have. And I just don't feel like 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.720 they're doing that. And that's an excusing mac for some 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.040 of the mistakes he made. You know, the wire throw 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.000 is what I'm gonna call it from now on. Right 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:14.760 that he span is already the bunk that it didn't 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.200 hit the wire, Okay, I know it. The wire shakes 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.840 the wires, the LEAs the wire, it's not what illusion. 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.760 The wire's actually fifteen yards above the ball source. Well, 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.920 we're supposed to believe you. Well, they do have next 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.800 gen tracking data that can probably tell you if it 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.800 hit the wire or not. And why, well, why didn't 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.720