1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, Will it be affordable? How much will I 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: have to pay for an electric car? And I said, well, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of the key, right, Will there be that 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollar entry level electric vehicle that works nothing? At six? 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: The car Doctor, the less expensive car is gonna have 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: five fifty air conditioning, well, the window down five inches, 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: driving fifty. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Nannian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage doors are open, 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: five and now he running. You know, if being at 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: the shop every week tells me anything, it teaches me 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot, because I learned things at the shop, you know, 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: It's just it's just part of the gig of being 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: a mechanic. Sometimes I learned about the car. I see 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: how a system operates. The car is telling me something 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: different than what the service information tells me. And it's 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: a learning adventure. And sometimes it's adventures and human relations 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: because it's you know, and and sometimes it's you think 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: to yourself, how will that human relation interconnect with that vehicle? 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: And it makes me think that, you know, and I 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: think electric vehicles will work. I think the downfall of 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: them after a while. I think they'll sort it out. 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: And I just don't think we can do it all 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: at once. But what I think about as well situations 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: like this, because I think the problem is how people 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: are going to relate to and connect to and take 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: care of that electric vehicle when I look at how 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: they take care of an internal combustion engine vehicle. I 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: had a two thousand six Jeep commander presented to me 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: this week for an oil pressure light on. Simple enough, 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the oil pressure lights on, okay, and you know, I 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: went through the drill and uh, kind of an interesting 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: vehicle that I checked oil level. Oil level was good 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: and the oil light wasn't on, and everything seemed okay. 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: And I talk to the customer and the customer said, well, 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, why don't we put a sender in it, 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: because it's the cheapest thing you can put in it. 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: He was the authority at this moment, and I kind 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: of played along and said, okay, I have no problem 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: with that. It's sixteen years old. It's you know, a 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles. Uh if it's not, I mean, we 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: could always do a mechanical oil pressure test too, but 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: there was a money factor involved. We don't want to 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: spend any money on this old car because it was 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: an old car. All right, listen you, I'm gonna score 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: part in it as long as my choice where I 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: can get the parts so I know it's a quality piece, 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: and I'll play the game. Sometimes I do that. And 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: we ordered a new center out of the dealer and 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: it showed up the next day and as I was 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: pulling it into the shop to change the center, the 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: light came on. Okay, good, now I've got a broken 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: car something I can work with. And first thing I 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: did was take the cinder out and I screwed an 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: oil pressure gage. Hey, I gotta diagnose it. And it 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: had zero oil pressure. Well not really it It started 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: out a pounds and then as I read it up, 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: it would climb and then all of a sudden it 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: would fall and drop and basically two pounds of pressure. 63 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: All right, it's got no oil pressure. I don't know. 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Something made me think, let me just check level again. 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I read it wrong, and I still don't have 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: an answer on what I might have missed, but sure enough, 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: there was no oil on the dipstick, nothing zero. This 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: car had as much oil in it as Tom Ray 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: has hair on his head. And if you've ever met Tom, 70 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: that's not a lot. And we say that with love, 71 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: of course, working with me, I can't understand why you 72 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: might have pulled it out all these years. But that's 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: okay too. Yeah, well you got that straight. I understood that. 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: So put three quarts of oil in it. Lots of 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: sludge in this engine, the crank case. You could see 76 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: where the crank case phil was. It was all coated 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: with crud. So I did three quarts of oil. And 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: I also put in a bottle of liquid molly. I 79 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: think it's Liquamalley two thousand seven. They're hydraulic lifter oil editive, 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: which will help clean up the sludge and break down 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: the crud. And I told the customer, look, you're gonna 82 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: bring it back in fives. I want to change the 83 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: oil and give this stuff a chance to work its magic, 84 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: and you know, try and clean out the engine. And yes, 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: of course it had oil pressure. Oil pressure came back 86 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: and it was now seventy five pounds and doing what 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: it's supposed to do. When the light was out and 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: all was good, I was hopeful. I was optimistic. I said, hey, 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: a good repair. But then when I spoke to the customer, 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the owner, you know, he said, gee, it's kind of 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: surprising it doesn't have oil in it. Do you think 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: it's burning? And I said, well, it's not leaking it, 93 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: So the only assumption I can make is that it's 94 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: burning it. I said, you know, there's no sticker on 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: the car. When was the oil changed last? This is 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: when I knew the electric car future did not look good. Oh, 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, it's been about a year, year 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and a half. When was the last time you checked 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: the oil level? Well, why would I check the oil level? 100 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: It had oil in it when I filled it up 101 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: after the oil change. You see the way it works, folks, 102 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: is if if you're not going to change the oil, 103 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you should really check it every couple of months. I mean, 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: common sense, all right. Of course I kind of knew 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: what I was dealing with. Someone that's not really, in 106 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: my opinion, in tune to a vehicle, because the conversation 107 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: was also about why is the tire pressure light on. Well, 108 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: I took the sensors out when I did the tires 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: because they wanted eighty dollars a piece to change sensors 110 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: and I'm too cheap for that. Okay, so you're gonna 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: drive around with a car with warning lights on. I'm 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: surprised he brought it in for the oil pressure light 113 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I you know, and I I say to myself, how 114 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: is he going to react to that electric vehicle? Because understand, 115 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: electric vehicles are very unforgiving. There is no maybe sort 116 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: of might be. You know, we're talking about a vehicle 117 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: that centers operate within a realm of a half a millimeter. 118 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: If the thickness of the paint on the bumper is 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: too thick after an accident, it will affect the sensors 120 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: and got to be calibrated and got to be corrected 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: in order for that system to operate correctly. You're going 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: to be driving rocket ships with four wheels around on 123 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: the road and and that's okay. I'm not disparaging that, 124 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: but you've just your mindset has to change. This isn't 125 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: about cheap, this isn't about well, it's not broke. I'm 126 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: not gonna look at it. This is gonna be about 127 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: due diligence. Cars are complicated, they really are. We we 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: had a twenty sixteen Chevy Reverse. I've been telling you 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: about this car. I've still got it. I think it's fixed. 130 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: I think I've got it correct on the right path 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: now with the power of steering line. That leaked the 132 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: power of steering fluid into the electrical harness because the 133 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: GM engineer doesn't understand how hydraulics and copper wire doesn't mix. 134 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: And I've corrected that. I was able to find an 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: oxygen center partner for PETE connector that gave me enough 136 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: lead that I can, you know, and I routed it uphill. 137 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: What I did was GM wants you to change the 138 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: whole wiring harness. I put a different connector around with 139 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: a longer lead, and I routed the harness so it 140 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: points straight up and then straight down. So if there 141 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: is any power steering fluid in the harness buried under 142 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: the installation, which I don't think there is, because it 143 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: was clean. The margins were good. If it was a 144 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: cancer patient, I would tell you it's good margins. You 145 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: know it's gonna have to defly. Isaac Newton, it's gonna 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: have to go up and come down the other side. 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: And and that's a separate repair unto itself. But you 148 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: know that in the connection to the Jeep story is 149 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: look at the technology required. And those cars are eleven 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: years apart, and one had it's not a result of 151 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: lack of maintenance, and the other is he just doesn't care. 152 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: But they're both complicated repairs, They're both involved, they both 153 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: require some diagnostic they both require some attention. Maybe if 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: the power steering carbon brought in sooner, you know, all 155 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: kinds of crazy thoughts go through your mind. We may 156 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: be getting an electric car future at some level. I 157 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know if we're ready for it. I don't know 158 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: if we have the mindset. And I encourage you you 159 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: have to look at your thinking, all right, you know, 160 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: as as I tell my kids, you can't have stinky thinking. 161 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta think positive. You've got to look 162 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: at this and say, if you're going to embrace this technology, 163 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: you've got to be ready for this technology. But we've 164 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: got to be ready as a collective. And and and 165 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that really is the key. You know that we've got 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: to be ready for this as a collective because it 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: can't be well, I'm not going to change my oil. 168 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't really go far. It's only been a year, 169 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: only a year with no oil change. Never mentioned about 170 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: how many miles, and I don't think it was many, 171 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: but just something to think about, all right, just be aware. 172 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: Let me pull over, let me take the pause, and 173 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: we'll get some calls up, because that's what this show 174 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: is all about. I also want to mention I keep 175 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: forgetting to mention this. We've got a book on the 176 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: mid engine corvette we want to give away. I think 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: we'll do that next week. So let's talk about it 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: this week. Maybe i'll review it a little bit. The 179 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: mid engine Corvette that's just come out. We've got a 180 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: copy of that beautiful book in full color um from 181 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the publishing house, and we'll talk about that a little bit. 182 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll give that away. We'll give that away next week, 183 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: I promise. So in any event I'm running any in 184 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: the car, Doctor eight zero, we'll be back right after this. 185 00:09:51,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Need advice on how to maintaining that 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: classic gt O. Ron is the guy eight five five 187 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's 188 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: get over to Danny in Mexico City. Am I reading 189 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: that right? Mexico, Mexico City. Well look at this, we're 190 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: international talk. Danny. Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, How 191 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: can I help? Yeah, thank you, Ryan, it's a great 192 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: honor for me to you know, be on on the line. 193 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: If you thank you very much for taking my call. 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, I just wanted to make a little comment 195 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: on one might take on this electric car phenomenon, if 196 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: you will, I think that consumers, you know, I would 197 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: we want to have the last call in the end, 198 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, if we make up our minds 199 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: and you know, just you know, try as much as 200 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: possible not to buying to do electric cars on and 201 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: then that you know, uh, buying fuel powered card. I 202 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: think that's uh. I want to you know, of what's 203 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: kind of driving the industry in the end, Danny, if 204 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: I can ask you, what is it like in Mexico? 205 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Do they have an electric car plan? Do they are 206 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: they pushing forward or they're just watching at this point? Well, um, 207 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: we're more like observers, you know in our mid of 208 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: the woods here. Um, that are electric cars, but you 209 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: know they barely make up um, you know, barely through 210 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: the three percent of the of the whole vehicle fleet. Uh. 211 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: You know most of the electric cars here are like 212 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: taxicabs and livery vehicles. Um, but you know, the fuel 213 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: powered cars are are still king here in Mexico. We 214 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: don't have infrastructure yet. Um. You know the power of 215 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: the you know, um, thousands of electric vehicles is that? 216 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: What are the case here in Mexico. See, I mean 217 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: there are electric charging stations, but they are very few 218 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: on the par between is Tesla in Mexico. Yeah yeah, 219 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: Tesla is in Mexico. Um, but you hardly see you know, 220 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: uh a tesla you know, tartling around town here at all. Right, Right, 221 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: so there's no formal the government has no formal plans, 222 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: no benchmark. They're not going to do this by five 223 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: or thirty as the States claim they're going to. Um, 224 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: you're just, as you said, being observers and kind of 225 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: watching the show. Yeah, lower modelock observers, you know, just 226 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: watching the shows here, and uh you know the way 227 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: things um play out here is basically you know, by 228 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: way of mirroring what happens in the US. Like it's 229 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: say that this, uh you know, our regulations in the 230 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: US as far as like um, you know, banning the 231 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: automakers from making you know, any more fuel power peoples 232 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: after five you know, i'd bet to say that, you know, 233 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: they're going to be a similar thing here, uh, you know, 234 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: the Mexican from int the office, as far as the 235 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: uh A government policy to you know, to um, the 236 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: push manufacturers to buy electric vehicles here feel of powered ones. 237 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: That hasn't happened just yet, but you know, I think 238 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: it's a whole as a consumers, you know, we have 239 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: the last we have the last call. You know, we're 240 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're the ones driving the industries at the 241 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: whole one way or the other. I mean yeah, I 242 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: mean manufacturers can push you know whatever they caught up 243 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: they you know, they want us to buy in the end, 244 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: but ultimately to sitnt buy those electric vehicles if we're 245 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: more you know, comfortable with gas powered vehicles. Yeah, I 246 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: think we at least have some leverage, you know, with 247 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: our money. Uh you know, because one of the ones 248 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: to decide in the end, you know, uh, fair point products, 249 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: fair points right, yeah, point. I guess until the point 250 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: where they say no more gas cars, then what do 251 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: you do? Right, It's it's and I also, my biggest 252 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: concern is that they're not going to give us that opportunity, 253 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: as you so well put it, and you're correct, it's 254 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: it's up to us, it's our choices, consumers. But I 255 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: think too many people fall for the next flashy marble, 256 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: oh you know, the next the next shiny bobble, will 257 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: do this, We'll try that, and you know, don't don't 258 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: necessarily think about the long term consequence. And I question, 259 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, if if if Mexico goes on an electric 260 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: car buying ability where it's now it's electric cars in 261 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Mexico and then Central America, South America, around the world, 262 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: if everything is electric car, you've got to think that 263 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: the technology will get cheaper and more affordable. But if 264 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the US does it on its own, at what price 265 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: and to whom? And that's always been my sticking point. 266 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: And then where will the infrastructure come from? Which is 267 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, a whole another conversation. Uh yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, 268 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean in the end, uh, you know, for as 269 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: much as you know, for as much powers we have, 270 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: consumers have you know over what we buy, um um, 271 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: if if the government you know, decides to and I'm 272 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean in the global stance. It's the US government 273 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: or the Mexican government or any other government for that matter. 274 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, it decides to uh, you know, push this 275 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: industry down onto us u um ultimately, you know what 276 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: are the ones who are gonna get carried away by 277 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: you know what what people will start buying? You know 278 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: it maybe not uh most of us, you know who 279 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: are interview electric you know who buying interviews electric car 280 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: industry or technology. But you know it only takes us, 281 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, as little as you there's just a few 282 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: people buying those first cards and then you know, uh 283 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: what will get out and then all of a sudden, 284 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, just more, more and more people every single 285 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: day are gonna start buying more cars, right so you know, 286 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: for all, you know, for all of us who are 287 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: like uh you know, powered and diesel powered feesls lovers, 288 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: uh and car collectors, which is well, I'm I'm a 289 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: car collector myself, and we're just gonna have to play along, 290 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, just do whatever is available, and uh if 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: we can find a way to maintain this uh uh 292 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: I guess uh powered depls industry going and we should 293 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: coll for it. I mean at least give it a shot, right, 294 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: it will be yeah, so absolutely, because it'll be interesting. 295 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: You know what kind of cars you're in your collection, Danny, 296 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: What do you have in the garage? Well, let's say, yeah, 297 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: six or seven premouth Valiant and three Renosum, I hope 298 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: to have a grand Kie which is commune condition and 299 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: a un' note for puny of Grand Prix. Do you 300 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: ever do you ever stop to think all nice cars 301 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: by the way, congratulations, Do you ever stop to think 302 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: that that all those collectible cars and some of the 303 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: big dollar collectible cars are going to be worthless when 304 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: the electric car future gets here and there's not not 305 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: not enough gasoline or any gasoline to drive these things. 306 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: And at some point let that happen. Um, yeah, I 307 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: think you know, we've got to try how as possible 308 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: as consumers. Um. You know, also in the way you 309 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: let our officials, you know, all the representatives as far 310 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: as like you know, pushing them to steel, keep fuel available, 311 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, gasoline and bool, you know, whatever it's the case. Um, 312 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: you know what's interesting, Danny, you know what's really interesting? 313 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna go I'm sorry, is and I 314 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: really appreciate your call. You're very eloquent and you speak well. 315 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: I I think you make some excellent points. What's really 316 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: interesting is no matter where you go. You're in Mexico, 317 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: we're in the we're in the States. No matter where 318 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: you go, people are just people trying to do their job, 319 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: provide for their families, live every day and we all 320 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: have the same concerns. Right, you're concerned about electric vehicles, 321 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the electric car future. What about gasoline powered car ours? 322 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: What will their value be? How does it affect the industry? Danny, 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your call. And uh, God bless and 324 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: be safe my friend. You you call us back anytime 325 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor, I'll be back 326 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back. We're on 327 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. Let's uh and and again 328 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: I want to say thank you to Danny. Great call 329 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: from Mexico. Right, Um, just good solid information. I really 330 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: love it when you guys call up, when the card 331 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: doctor Nation calls up and expresses your thoughts like that, 332 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and um, you know, we encourage you more to do 333 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: that because we want to hear it from all sides. 334 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: We think it's a great way to exchange information. Let's 335 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: go over to Jimmy in May nine. Suburban and some 336 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: hard start problems. Jimmy, welcome to the car doctor. So 337 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: I'm running Indian. How can I help? Yeah, what's called it? 338 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: During the summer months, my suburban runs good. I didn't 339 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: have a problem with the prod battery. And when it 340 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: comes with the time, because I have a plower on 341 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: it after market plow and uh, it won't start up 342 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: in the cold weather. So I don't know what the 343 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: reason is. And now this tast winter, I couldn't run 344 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle because I kept running the start and I 345 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: kept running and running, but it wouldn't kick on. It 346 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: sounds like it didn't get duel. And then in the 347 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: springtime now when the days warms up, I went back 348 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: in the car, I recharged the battery and it started 349 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: right up on the first turn. Does this car have 350 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: plates on it? Jimmy, Do you drive this on the road? 351 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: Does it? Do you drive this on the road? Does 352 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: this car have plates? No? No, no, I can't drive 353 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: it on the road because it's just a plow truck 354 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: for my property cleaning the Yeah, that's what I kind 355 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: of thought. So it's probably good and rusty yes, yeah, 356 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, I can imagine. So you know, 357 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: we start talking about and this is a gas powered, right, 358 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: a five point seven Leader V eight gas powered suburban. 359 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: So we started talking about hard starts on that generation truck. 360 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: The first thing you want to look at is fuel pressure, 361 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: all right, and fuel pressure it's got, and it's got 362 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: it's got to be exact despec key on engine off, 363 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: you turn the key to the omposition, you have to 364 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: have sixty to sixty six pounds. If it's fifty nine. 365 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: If it's Danny, I'm sorry, Jimmy, if it's if it's 366 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: if it's fifty nine pounds, it won't start. It's that critical, 367 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: all right. Typically, typically you'll see it when they're bad, 368 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: when the pumps go bad for some reason, they drop 369 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: a couple of pounds, you'll see fifty six and everybody says, oh, 370 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: that's okay. No, that's not okay. It's got to be 371 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: sixty six, all right. The other thing that goes wrong 372 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: with those trucks is this has the intake manifold with 373 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: the inject or spider underneath it. And there's more than 374 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: a few bulletins out there for specific hard start problems 375 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: for this vehicle that they want you to overhaul and 376 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: replace the injection spider, and you know, kind of costly, 377 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: especially on something this age, But that is also a consideration. 378 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: But I think if you do a fuel pressure test, 379 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna know right away because it's either got fuel 380 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: pressure or it doesn't. The other thing. The other thing 381 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: during the summer, when I was starting it up just 382 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: to keep it running, it start right, because when it's 383 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: called out, when it's called out, the engine requires more 384 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: fuel and it's sometimes will Also those those poppet valves 385 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: on the spider under the intake will stick when they're cold, 386 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: especially in the extreme cold of Maine. I'm sure it's 387 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: not Florida by the fuel pump not getting the right temperature. Well, 388 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: the fuel pump itself is probably failing, is it original, Right, 389 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: That's why I say check fuel pressure. The other thing 390 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I want you to think about is because of the 391 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: age of the truck and how you're using it under 392 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: such conditions, you know, somebody's got to look at vehicle grounds, 393 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: the three most critical grounds on that truck to cause 394 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: that to go into a crank no start condition. And 395 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: I've seen it vary by temperature. There are two ground 396 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: islets attached to the back of the intake manifold on 397 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: the passenger side. You have to get on top of 398 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: the engine, lay with your belly on the engine, and 399 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: shove your head down between the distributor and the firewall. 400 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: When your head starts to hurt and you're crushing your 401 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: lobe on your right side, you're in the right spot. 402 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: You should look down and make sure that that ground 403 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: islet attached and it's good, clean and tight the second place. 404 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: And then when you get your head over there well, 405 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: and then when you get over there, Jimmy, look to 406 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: your right and you'll see the ground log attached to 407 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: the top of the bell housing bolt on the other 408 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: side of the engine. Those three grounds, there's two on 409 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: one side, one on the other. Those three grounds are 410 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: critical and there's a gang of ground connections. I think 411 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: they're one oh two and one oh three under the 412 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: left side of the frame rail under the driver's foot, 413 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: so to speak. Make sure that's a good king contact. Last, 414 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: the last thing to think about if it turns out 415 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: fuel pressure is good. Grounds are good, and it's just 416 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: giving you a hard start. Cold and you've been through 417 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: the mill and you've looked at all the obvious inside 418 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: the distributor. Okay, the distributor on those the the ignition 419 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: distributor runs a pickup coil with a tone ring. That 420 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: tone ring is riveted in place. That's actually the magnet 421 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: for the pick up coil. And what I've seen is 422 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: I'll take the distributor out, pull the shaft out, you 423 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: turn it upside down, look at the two rivets that 424 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: hold the magnet and the tone ring together. The magnet's cracked. 425 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: The magnet cracks from age, and what that will do 426 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: is that will interrupt the signal to the pickup coil. 427 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: Not so much temperature effective. I've seen it where it 428 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: can be, but it will cause du rest. And if 429 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: that ignition system isn't it can do a lot of 430 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: funny things. So you want to that's something that you're 431 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: never gonna find in any textbooks. That's something to be 432 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: aware of as well. All Right, Okay, thank you very much. 433 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, Jimmy, you'll be well. Um, Yeah, just 434 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: just stuff to think about and look at, you know, 435 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: real quick. I want to just talk about this for 436 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 1: a second before we take the pause right to repair um. 437 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: Recent article came out talking about and Kevin O'Reilly wrote 438 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: about it, it shouldn't cost the form to fix a tractor. 439 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: In um the Wall Street Journal talk king about the 440 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: right to repair policy and people are saying that it's 441 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: unfair as a matter of fact. Uh. There's a comment 442 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: in the recent article by Dennis Slater where he talks 443 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: about that the right to repair is forcing manufacturers to 444 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: release the proprietary information to the public. And he's further 445 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: goes on to say, a modern day tractor wigs over 446 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: her fifty pounds on average, and if criminal's tampa with 447 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: the equipment's back end code, it poses dangerous safety and 448 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: emission threats to the public. You know, Dennis, I don't 449 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: know that anybody's gonna take a tractor and commit an 450 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: act of terrorism. I don't know that they could actually 451 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: do that. I'm not so worried about somebody stealing my 452 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: hundred fifty pounds tractor and doing something with it. I'm 453 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: more concerned about the American farmer having the ability to 454 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: repair that vehicle on safe and equal ground. One of 455 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: the things that clouds everybody's judgment in my opinion, and 456 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: I think I'm qualified to talk about this, is the 457 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: guy with a repair shop for forty five years. Is 458 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: the right to repair puts an undo pressure on the 459 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: consumer on where they're forced to get their vehicle service, 460 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: whether it's a tractor or an honoramobile. And even now 461 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: some of the states that have had successful right to 462 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: repair legislation pass Massachusetts comes to mind. You know, it's 463 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: still very expensive for independent repair shop to operate, and 464 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: those expenses get passed onto the consumers, and then the 465 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: consumers no choice. Either they buy a new car, they 466 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: go without, or they go back to the dealer, and 467 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: that's expensive. Bottom line, what do repair is expensive. There's 468 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: enough cars for everybody to go around. And if we 469 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: all started pulling the boat in the same direction rather 470 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: than opposite ends, I think we'd get a lot further 471 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: faster than what we're trying to accomplish. Just my thoughts, 472 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, I value yours. You've got any comments, send 473 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: me an email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com 474 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: and I'll be glad to talk about it up here 475 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: on air with you anytime. Let me pull over and 476 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: take a pause. We'll be back right after this. Don't 477 00:26:50,160 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: go away doctor here at Let's get over to Thomas 478 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: in Connecticut. Oh four jeep, Grand Cherokee. And see what's 479 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: going on here? Thomas. Welcome to the Guard doctor, sir, 480 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: how can I help? Thank you very much. Um, I've 481 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: got a well you just said it. Um, I've got 482 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: a left turn signal that's giving me nothing but a problem. 483 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: The the unit was replaced about a month ago, but 484 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: it intermittently works, and then it doesn't work, and then 485 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: starts working again. And I don't have a clue what 486 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: this could be. When you say the left is it? 487 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Is it both bulbs on the left side from back? Well, 488 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: it's actually the I think it's the turn signal itself. 489 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: All the all the bulbs and everything are working on 490 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: the left hand side, both front and back. Okay. So 491 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: in other words, you you turn on the left turn 492 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: signal and neither one lights up at either end of 493 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: the car. Correct on on the left hand side, but 494 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: the right one does work. And the the garage in 495 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: question where we took it to had replaced the entire 496 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: unit uh in the steering column, So I'm not sure 497 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: what's going on there. Okay, So they changed they changed 498 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: the stalk mounted switch on the column correct all right, 499 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: First of all, with a new one and it's still 500 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: doing the same. Did they do any kind of diagnosis 501 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: or was this a seat of the pants he it's 502 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: got to be the switch thing. Uh No, I think 503 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: they did do a diagnosis and um, but then replaced 504 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: the unit. And you know, I just don't know what 505 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: what else it could be. Well, there's a directional flasher 506 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: tucked under the dash on the left side up kind 507 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: of like where your left knee would be into the dashboard. 508 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: Basically you crawled under the dashboard. Another one, another head 509 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: turner like the suburban ground if you if you turn 510 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: your head in such a way that you have to 511 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: go to the chiropractor afterwards because it's in such a 512 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: painful spot. You'll see it. There's a cluster of relays 513 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: in the underdash junction box and it's the tallest of 514 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: the of the cluster as long as it hasn't been replaced, 515 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: if it's still the original Chrysler flasher and that has 516 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: a separate signal sense for left and a separate signal 517 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: sense for right. And I've seen quite a few cases 518 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: where switches are changed erroneously if they're not diagnosed in 519 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: that it's a problem with the flash or not a 520 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: problem with the switch. I've also seen where it's both. 521 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: But you know, that flasher is there and that is 522 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: part of the circuit and a common component to fail. 523 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: And I will tell you this, my experience has been 524 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: because it's an electronic flasher, that if you can still 525 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: get one out of Chrysler, that's your better choice, because 526 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: that's going to be a better part. At this point 527 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: in the game, electronics, you're just getting tougher and tougher 528 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: to deal with. I know, I understand, thank you. You know, 529 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: as they as they get older, Um, there's there's less 530 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: and less components available, uh, you know, but I would 531 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: I would clearly take a look at that. The other 532 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: thing I'd be curious to see. I don't know if 533 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: it would be there in a four, but just for 534 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: the point of conversation, I'd love to hook a scan 535 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: tool into it and go into the body module or 536 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: the front front end cluster is priced there, calls it 537 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: sometimes and look to see does it have output signal 538 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: or any input request from the switch or an output 539 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: signal coming from the flash or you know, you could 540 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: turn the you know, uh, Thomas, you can check some 541 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: of the weirdest things on a scan tool that you know, 542 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: everybody thinks it's just for a check engine light, and 543 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: it's it's coming down to where you look at everything. Um. 544 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: In my opening comments today, I was talking about the 545 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: O six jeep commander. I was looking at the oil 546 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: pressure switch circuit on a scan tool, looking at inputs. Uh, 547 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: you know it's there, so it's it's always a good 548 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: place to start. But I bet they're gonna find if 549 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: they haven't looked at it, that it's got a flash 550 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: or is you if it has an aftermarket flasher. I 551 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: don't want to condemn it, but I would tell you 552 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: to test that circuit and either power it up individually. 553 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Does it feed out that they get a signal from 554 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the turn signal switch. If they do, then that flash 555 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: is not working, whether it's new, used, after market, or otherwise. 556 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: But UM, flashes are very common and they are on 557 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: that vehicle. A lot of people forget that. All right, sir, 558 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: thank you very much, You're very welcome. Good luck, and 559 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: if you need more, you know where to find me 560 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: and uh let me know what happens. Yeah, um listen, 561 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: uh you know, give me a broken car, we'll fix it. 562 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: That's the name of that that should be the name 563 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: of the next show. Give me a broken car, We'll 564 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: figure out what's wrong with it. Well, that's probably too 565 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: long to fit in the subtitles, so but um, that 566 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: really is the crux of it. I don't care what 567 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: it is. It can be fixed zero zero run any 568 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor coming back right after this, Welcome 569 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: back right on any of the Car Doctor. But has 570 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: a quick hour right UM. 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I always let Tom 602 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: make the decision. But um, it's just kind of neat. 603 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: This is the eighth generation. Chevalley has done more than 604 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: raised the bar, moved the goalpost. The press release continues, 605 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: They've torn down the stadium and started from scratch. For 606 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: the first time ever in a production version, the new 607 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: Corvette features a mid engine configuration. Although Corvette engineers are 608 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: experimented with this engine placement over the past several decades, 609 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: marks the first time GM is committed to a production car. 610 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: It really is kind of amazing. If you want to 611 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: see something more about the mid engine Corvette, go out 612 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: to YouTube and just search on YouTube mid engine Corvette 613 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: assembly plant. Watch how they put these things together. It's crazy, uh, 614 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's just got such such deep roots. 615 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna really eliminate any performance barrier. It will, 616 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: as the press release goes on to say, take on 617 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: supercar rivals like Ferrari, Lamborghini, and McLaren. Chevrolet has experimented 618 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: with mid engine platforms for legendary sports cars since the fifties, 619 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: and now it's reality. Corvette Stingray. 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