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Speaker 2: what's the poll? Qull Oh is this still the Tom
Speaker 2: Brady poll question? Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got two of them up there right now.
Speaker 3: Vince Wilfork, by the way, has joined the fight. He's
Speaker 3: not pleased with Tom either. Who should Tom Brady root
Speaker 3: for in this Super Bowl? I can't believe we're actually
Speaker 3: asking this New England, Seattle or neither New England have
Speaker 3: fifty five percent of that vote. Neither has thirty seven percent,
Speaker 3: and then the biggest dog on the show today, Bo Jackson,
Speaker 3: Gerald McCoy, Andrew Luck or Peter herb Street. Bo Jackson
Speaker 3: running away with that one, Peter herb Street and second
Speaker 3: with almost twenty percent of that vote.
Speaker 4: Andrew Luck.
Speaker 3: Just based on the way Bo Jackson is dominating, he's
Speaker 3: currently in third. He is losing to the dog Peter,
Speaker 3: but it's a respectable five point seven percent.
Speaker 2: I think he's okay. I think he's okay with that too, okay,
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Speaker 2: Andrew Luck, Stanford University general manager and former number one
Speaker 2: overall pick by the Coltspack in twenty twelve. As we
Speaker 2: make way for Andrew Luck on the program, looking lean, man,
Speaker 2: looks lean, how much weight did you lose?
Speaker 5: A good bit twenty pounds. I will say it's too
Speaker 5: early for my ego to be hurt by being behind
Speaker 5: a dog at a poll. But I'm coming to terms
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 2: It is a good looking dog.
Speaker 5: Though it's a famous dog, it's a good looking dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah. How close did you come to coaching Stanford football?
Speaker 5: Not close at all.
Speaker 2: You had no interest, no, no interest, no desire.
Speaker 5: Wasn't right for me?
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that that's as close as you can
Speaker 2: get to replicating what it's like to play. You have
Speaker 2: no interest in replicating that feeling.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: Look, I volunteer coach for two years at Pwelltahigh School
Speaker 5: before before taking the GM job, was the freshman offensive
Speaker 5: coordinator uh in JV.
Speaker 2: But were you good?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think I was very good. I don't
Speaker 5: think I was. It's I do think I do think
Speaker 5: there's some truth to what you said, Dan about it's
Speaker 5: the It's probably the closest thing to replicating what it's
Speaker 5: like to playing, but not right for me. I want
Speaker 5: to have an incredible respect for the coaching profession to
Speaker 5: uh for my life, our family. What Stanford football needs
Speaker 5: and needed a year ago and needs now like I'm
Speaker 5: I'm in, I'm in the perfect spot.
Speaker 2: Explain what your role is.
Speaker 5: Uh So I'm the general manager of the team. I
Speaker 5: I think maybe in some ways also act like a
Speaker 5: team president or an athletic director just for football. Do
Speaker 5: a lot of fundraising, a lot of spreading the good word.
Speaker 5: I feel like a like an evangelical preacher barnstorman you
Speaker 5: know the country, you know, to proselytizing about Stanford football.
Speaker 5: Roster management certainly made have made coaching changes, you know,
Speaker 5: the short tenure and hired Tavita Pritchard ours our as
Speaker 5: our head coach and helping him with staff. And look,
Speaker 5: we's what's still so unique about college sports as we
Speaker 5: Stanford football exist within Stanford University's ecosystem, right like it's
Speaker 5: we're part of this amazing institution of higher ed. So
Speaker 5: building bridges with the academy. I mean, we have one
Speaker 5: hundred and nine guys on the team, let's say, eighteen
Speaker 5: to twenty two year olds. They're amazing. They also, like
Speaker 5: eighteen to twenty two year olds, do some dumb stuff,
Speaker 5: like I still do dumb stuff, Like we all did
Speaker 5: dumb stuff, and it's uh so working with them every
Speaker 5: day is a blast. And yeah, it's a little bit
Speaker 5: of everything. It's a little bit of everything, a lot
Speaker 5: of learning on the job.
Speaker 2: Dan given nil if you were coming out of high school?
Speaker 2: Would you have still gone to Stanford?
Speaker 5: I would have look on what three or four years ago?
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. You know, we we we were a
Speaker 5: little slow to adapt and and embrace the changes. But
Speaker 5: today app I was talking to Christian McCaffrey about this
Speaker 5: last week, we we we we saw each other. Was
Speaker 5: asking his perspective on it, and and and he was he's,
Speaker 5: I'm sure he'd say it. If you're sitting right here,
Speaker 5: he'd go to Stanford again. Right. We have a unique
Speaker 5: value proposition, and I do know we are serious about football.
Speaker 5: And if you're a serious football player that also has
Speaker 5: the academic qualifications, the grades, you know we're the place
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 2: But as far as money goes, yeah, and I have
Speaker 2: somebody who's a great source on this. You got to
Speaker 2: have around forty million dollars if you want to be
Speaker 2: a top end football program. That feels like in the
Speaker 2: in the treasure trove there the collectives you're nil? Is
Speaker 2: that a fair number? Do you think a n Stanford
Speaker 2: in that?
Speaker 5: I'm not. I won't get into our numbers or any
Speaker 5: other numbers. I know. I don't see the balance sheets,
Speaker 5: you know, including collectives, but it's it's a murky market.
Speaker 5: There's there's there's not much transparency to it. I think
Speaker 5: there are certainly schools and programs that seem willing to
Speaker 5: do whatever it takes, you know, to get there. We
Speaker 5: think we can do it our way and be competitive
Speaker 5: and look the person the pudding, right, we got to
Speaker 5: go out and play games. You got to go out
Speaker 5: and put a winning product on the field. You got
Speaker 5: to teach great football. You got to coach great football.
Speaker 5: And I think we have that with our young men
Speaker 5: in the locker room and our coaching staff.
Speaker 2: But how is it when you're negotiating with somebody who
Speaker 2: wants money? Yeah, how does that work? Do you talk
Speaker 2: to the player, the agent, the parents?
Speaker 5: It's the full spectrum.
Speaker 6: But what is that like?
Speaker 5: You got players certainly representing themselves, You've got agents, and
Speaker 5: then you have the full continuum of agents, right from
Speaker 5: those who have been doing it for a long time,
Speaker 5: from those just starting out on the journey, parents as well. Certainly,
Speaker 5: each one creates a little bit of a different dynamic
Speaker 5: with its own challenges. I also have a great assistant GM.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a people pleaser, Dan, So if I
Speaker 5: it's still part of college is recruiting right, and fall
Speaker 5: in love with the kid, and and and selling Stanford.
Speaker 5: So you know, I get compromise and negotiation fairly quickly.
Speaker 5: You know, what, do you want? Five million day? Okay,
Speaker 5: I'll give it to you. Let's make a seven, let's
Speaker 5: go here you go. You're I but it's uh, it's
Speaker 5: it's a it's a muscle. I'm wanting to exercise as well. Absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh, what do you miss about football?
Speaker 5: You know? The elements of football that I do miss
Speaker 5: are part of why I'm back in the game in
Speaker 5: this role right as as a general manager, having a role,
Speaker 5: being on a team. Game days are fun, like I
Speaker 5: I forgot, Like I actually sort of enjoy the stress
Speaker 5: of are we gonna you know, win or not? Like
Speaker 5: it's it's exhausting. Uh, in a in a real way.
Speaker 2: How does the loss affect you when you're the GM
Speaker 2: as opposed to a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Uh, you're not as physically hurt. I don't miss don't
Speaker 5: miss getting hit. Okay, I don't miss getting hit. I
Speaker 5: think you asked different questions the area were sporting our
Speaker 5: coaches enough, Like there's no waiver wire in the NFL,
Speaker 5: there's no you don't sign in college like there is
Speaker 5: in the NFL. You don't sign guys off the street
Speaker 5: to a place. So you think about, you know, how
Speaker 5: are we developing our guys? What are Do we have
Speaker 5: enough of what we need for the future? Do you
Speaker 5: know do I need to ask certain questions that help
Speaker 5: us going? But I I you know one, you're You're
Speaker 5: in it with everybody. It's in and it's fun to
Speaker 5: be back in it. Uh and live in the highs
Speaker 5: and lows.
Speaker 2: He's Andrew luck, the Stanford University general manager. I did
Speaker 2: not know this, but people at Stanford sent this to me.
Speaker 2: Stanford's one of five schools to produce a US president
Speaker 2: and a Super Bowl winning quarterback. You know the answers,
Speaker 2: don't you? Okay?
Speaker 5: I better know the answers. I hope I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, Who wants to take a guess here? There are
Speaker 2: five schools, so Stanford's won. Paul Michigan Michigan, is there?
Speaker 2: Marvin Delaware, Delaware? Sneaky Snaky Miami of Ohio Navy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: who's the most famous graduate of Stanford?
Speaker 5: Who is the most famous? I don't think Tiger graduated.
Speaker 2: You didn't you didn't give a degree.
Speaker 5: Christian hasn't graduated yet.
Speaker 2: Uh, do you give honorary degrees.
Speaker 5: I'm sure we give honorary I don't know if we
Speaker 5: got I don't have that authority, Dan, I don't know
Speaker 5: who's the most famous. Herbert Hoover was our president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not famous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Larry Page and Serge oh h very rich. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I got to see Jim Plunkett last night, and he
Speaker 5: might not be the most famous, but at least I
Speaker 5: think in my life right now, to see Jim Plunkett
Speaker 5: walk around and you know, to see a Heisman trophy, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and gosh, hopefully NFL Hall of Fame soon, and he's
Speaker 5: he's maybe the most relevant Stanford grad in my life
Speaker 5: besides my wife.
Speaker 2: I always thought that you were a defensive minded player
Speaker 2: playing quarterback. Did you play with a like a defensive
Speaker 2: player's mentality or am I overrating then?
Speaker 5: I don't know. The last time I played defense was
Speaker 5: I think seventh or eighth grade, and I got to
Speaker 5: play defensive end. I enjoyed it, not as much as
Speaker 5: I enjoyed quarterback. I did relish the opportunities to hit people.
Speaker 5: They were few, but when they popped up, it was
Speaker 5: I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: But when you would throw an interception, you wanted to
Speaker 2: make the time.
Speaker 5: There was part of me that did. And you know,
Speaker 5: it's some of that, and I certainly if there's young
Speaker 5: quarterbacks out there that I'm talking to, some of that
Speaker 5: takes a toll, right, And there's there's part of being
Speaker 5: a quarterback that you've got to But.
Speaker 2: Can you do what Peyton did and just go into
Speaker 2: a fetal position.
Speaker 5: I'm not your went to a fetal position.
Speaker 2: He went down. He wasn't going to try to make
Speaker 2: a tackle there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I played the way I played. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: if I could have done it anyway else.
Speaker 2: When you look at the game, it used to be
Speaker 2: that college and the pros were very different. Now the
Speaker 2: NFL has taken a lot of what college football does.
Speaker 2: Are they still doing that that what you run offensively
Speaker 2: is what a lot of these NFL teams are doing,
Speaker 2: or making the transition easier for these quarterbacks to take
Speaker 2: your like you know Cam Newton, they Carolina took his
Speaker 2: system at all. Aren't just to make it easier? You know,
Speaker 2: the transition.
Speaker 5: There's a couple questions there. One the transition of quarterbacks
Speaker 5: from college to the NFL, which which can be you know,
Speaker 5: can be a tough one. I know how I was
Speaker 5: trained at Stanford with Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw and
Speaker 5: Greg Roman. Was a was an incredible training ground to
Speaker 5: come into an NFL and run, you know, a Bruce
Speaker 5: Arians offense and and handle some sophistication in the run
Speaker 5: game and in the past game. I do think, uh,
Speaker 5: franchises need to be very honest about what their quarterbacks need,
Speaker 5: especially rookie quarterbacks, because it's a lot. It's a lot
Speaker 5: on a young man's plate, and it's a tough position, right, Uh,
Speaker 5: a really tough position. And then as far as the
Speaker 5: the constant evolution of offenses, I I do think college
Speaker 5: because of the breadth and at all levels, you know,
Speaker 5: including you know, especially fcs and then FBS, people try
Speaker 5: stuff right they do. It's it's almost like a Petri
Speaker 5: dish for offense. And I know part of what what
Speaker 5: I enjoyed my last year playing in the NFL with
Speaker 5: Nick sirianni and and Frank Reich as we'd watched we'd
Speaker 5: watch film of what I was was doing in the
Speaker 5: RPO game and install the what we thought we could
Speaker 5: we could do well yeah. Absolutely, Look, you've got to
Speaker 5: look for an edge on offense, right. If you get
Speaker 5: too stagnant, you die. And and I think that'll always happen.
Speaker 5: I think I think that will continue to happen where
Speaker 5: college is a bit of a bit of a you know,
Speaker 5: try it out area.
Speaker 2: What role did your wife play in your decision to retire?
Speaker 5: Oh? I retired and she she was six maybe seven
Speaker 5: months pregnant with our eldest, and she was loving being pregnant.
Speaker 5: And once I felt supported by her no matter what,
Speaker 5: you know, through it all, and so she was just
Speaker 5: there support. I didn't. I didn't feel alone through it
Speaker 5: and helpful, helpful.
Speaker 2: But you run it by you know, you're it's going
Speaker 2: to be a big weekend. You were going to get
Speaker 2: to that Sunday and hold a press conference, weren't you?
Speaker 2: And then Saturday at leaks? Yeah, what was it like
Speaker 2: when you came home after Saturday's game?
Speaker 5: Well? What her her birth her thirtieth birthday party was
Speaker 5: that was the weekend before and she's she's accused me
Speaker 5: ever since of hijacking her birthday party to tell our
Speaker 5: family who came into town and our close friends that
Speaker 5: like it was done so I get to I get
Speaker 5: to live with that for the rest of my life,
Speaker 5: in our in our relationship. Sorry, honey. Uh. And then
Speaker 5: that weekend, I I remember, you know, I want to
Speaker 5: say she used to she used to scooter, like take
Speaker 5: the electric scooters from our condo in Indianapolis to Lucas
Speaker 5: Oil Stadium because it's right there downtown. And so she was,
Speaker 5: you know, she wasn't she wasn't gonna go to the game.
Speaker 5: She know I wasn't playing. It was the preseason game.
Speaker 5: Chuck Pagano was on the other sideline as the as
Speaker 5: the coordinator. Uh. I think for the Bears. Maybe it
Speaker 5: was a team Yeah, is that right? Thanks? Thank you, Paul.
Speaker 5: I'm very disappointed you did not do my impression, which
Speaker 5: is which is I I may I may accuse it
Speaker 5: as an act of solt miss perhaps for not doing it.
Speaker 5: But she was late to the game, so she got
Speaker 5: on a scooter to get there. When she realized the
Speaker 5: news broke, it was like, oh shoot, I got to
Speaker 5: get there and support and support.
Speaker 7: It was a Lime scooter. They're all over in San
Speaker 7: Francis for the lives. They're readily available public transportation. It
Speaker 7: was about forty five minutes to get down here, down
Speaker 7: twenty pounds for my playing glad to be in charge
Speaker 7: so Stamford Cardinal football go o red.
Speaker 2: I did ask him if he was going to do
Speaker 2: the impersonation. He goes, I don't know, I probably should.
Speaker 2: Andrew is such a nice guy. He could still pump
Speaker 2: my face. And then I said no, no, no, you
Speaker 2: got to do it. You know, it's a tradition unlike
Speaker 2: any other. I don't know if there's a big market
Speaker 2: out there for Andrew Luck impersonators here like Frank Kelly
Speaker 2: Endo is probably not going to do one.
Speaker 7: Yes, But when Andrew came back and took over his
Speaker 7: Stanford Football's gym, I got to bring it back out again.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Nobody was more excited to see you back in mainstream
Speaker 2: America then, thank good luck with the role there.
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 2: And uh, can you get fired? Sure you can? Absolutely? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want that to happen. I'm just saying, I
Speaker 2: don't know who's your boss.
Speaker 5: My boss is our athletic director. Oh okay, he's fantastic body. Yes,
Speaker 5: he can fire me. I got it. We gotta perform.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: It sounds like something you would say all eligible at
Speaker 2: least seven wins. I'm all housible is Andrew Luck, thank you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. That's a pleasure, not a bad statday
Speaker 5: these guys.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: on the program. No looks like he could still hit somebody.
Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Both?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I like, jo this.
Speaker 6: Is that too much?
Speaker 12: Zipper?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 5: It's good?
Speaker 10: Good?
Speaker 11: All right, good. I'm glad, y'all Like, I'm glad.
Speaker 6: This is great. This is a great setup.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: You look like you could be in the car with
Speaker 2: Denzel in training day.
Speaker 6: You know what. I kind of like this. Let me
Speaker 6: tell you how I bought this jacket.
Speaker 11: So I'm a big airport shopper. So depending upon like
Speaker 11: the airport you go to, a lot of airports have like.
Speaker 6: High end shopping.
Speaker 11: I'm walking through the Newark Airport the other day and
Speaker 11: I'm like, I have a jacket.
Speaker 6: I'm not really feeling it. I'm just like, man, this
Speaker 6: is a crap. I need to get something better than this.
Speaker 11: And I look and they have this high end shopping
Speaker 11: like a Hugo Boss place, and I'm like, it's like
Speaker 11: six in the morning and they're just opening it. I
Speaker 11: was like, give me that jacket. I bought that thing
Speaker 11: on the spot, put this thing on, put my other
Speaker 11: one in the suitcase. I've been wearing it ever since.
Speaker 11: That's how I do things, though it's bury of the.
Speaker 2: Moment, spontaneous that's right, that's right.
Speaker 6: Did you play that way spontaneous? No, I was kind
Speaker 6: of value.
Speaker 11: I was kind of analytical because you know, because Bill
Speaker 11: Belichick and Nick were always on my you know what, man,
Speaker 11: So I didn't really kind of play too spontaneous. I
Speaker 11: was kind of really analytical. But I'll tell you this though.
Speaker 11: When I got you lined up, Dan, it was lights out.
Speaker 11: It was ninety nine.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 11: I was a big time hitter and no quick. That's
Speaker 11: how football was back then.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 11: You know, big safety Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith,
Speaker 11: that's what Kenny Easy, those were all my heroes, man.
Speaker 11: So that's that's kind of how the game was played then.
Speaker 2: That count.
Speaker 6: Oh let's see, well there was two.
Speaker 11: Guys, right, So there was my rookie year when I
Speaker 11: was with the Falcons, was with Jerry Glanville. I I
Speaker 11: know I had a concussion in that game, but that
Speaker 11: was before like concussion protocols became like what they are now.
Speaker 11: I mean, I just remember Scott Case and them looking
Speaker 11: at me going like he was like, dude, you you
Speaker 11: don't know what's going on to you. I was like, no,
Speaker 11: not at all.
Speaker 2: So every plant like it was a it was a
Speaker 2: preseason Scott Case would know.
Speaker 11: Scott Case was like one of the like true like
Speaker 11: football assassins back in the day. So I hit this
Speaker 11: kid named Lynn James from from Cleveland in a preseason game. Unfortunately,
Speaker 11: I think it wound up like cracking a bone in
Speaker 11: his neck and he had to retire, and I was
Speaker 11: I was like not altogether at that point in time,
Speaker 11: I didn't even know what I was doing. I was
Speaker 11: just kind of like remember dropping down into like this
Speaker 11: robber type coverage and saw the ball thrown and hit
Speaker 11: him about as hard as I possibly could. A guy
Speaker 11: named Frankie Smith, one of our defensive backs. His finger
Speaker 11: got caught in between my helmet and the shoulder pad
Speaker 11: ripped the tip of.
Speaker 6: His finger off.
Speaker 11: It was a nasty play and I was concussed during
Speaker 11: the play. So I don't even remember what the hell
Speaker 11: really happened. Because I had hit Kevin Mack earlier in
Speaker 11: that game. That's what it happens, So you know what
Speaker 11: Kevin Mack is like. I think there there was that
Speaker 11: one Vincent Brisbee from the Patriots in our playoff game
Speaker 11: in ninety five. I clocked him pretty darn good. I
Speaker 11: had a couple of them. Nate Terrell Fletcher from this
Speaker 11: from the Chargers out in San Diego. Once I caught
Speaker 11: him on the sideline, flipped him like a bowling pin.
Speaker 6: Once I saw some pretty good ones.
Speaker 2: Do you run into these guys and does this come up?
Speaker 11: No, I haven't seen a lot of those. I haven't
Speaker 11: seen a lot of those dudes. But you know what,
Speaker 11: that's how we used to do it. You remember the
Speaker 11: late great Eric Turner safety from the Browns who passed away. Yeah,
Speaker 11: probably one of the fiercest hitters I've ever seen ever,
Speaker 11: like this guy.
Speaker 6: That's how football was though back then. That's how it
Speaker 6: used to be.
Speaker 2: I remember Rodney Harrison telling me that he faced Jerry Rice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jerry came over the middle. Rodney said, I don't care
Speaker 2: who he is. He clocked him.
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: Got fined for it, but he said, I he goes.
Speaker 2: I had to let Jerry Rice know who I was,
Speaker 2: and you don't come over the middle.
Speaker 11: Then I have the funniest damn story about Jerry Rice. Okay,
Speaker 11: so we're playing San Francisco Monday Night Football nineteen ninety
Speaker 11: six in Atlanta, and that's when Steve was there, and
Speaker 11: Brent Jones I believe, was still there. Ricky was the
Speaker 11: running back waters and all anyway, Jerry runs a slant
Speaker 11: and I had him lined up and Steve overthrew him,
Speaker 11: and I'm screaming in Jerry's face. I'm like, expletive, expletive expletive,
Speaker 11: like you're so lucky you didn't catch that ball.
Speaker 1: You're so lucky.
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 11: I don't know if I can get up, but I
Speaker 11: literally like he looks at me and he grabs my
Speaker 11: shoulder pad and he turns me around and looks looks
Speaker 11: up my name plate with backs and he goes, who
Speaker 11: are you?
Speaker 6: And walks away. And I was just like.
Speaker 11: Wow, I just kind of get in. A couple of
Speaker 11: teammates were just like, damn dude, he just clowns. He
Speaker 11: literally turned me around, he was like.
Speaker 5: Who are you.
Speaker 6: I was like, you would have known who I was.
Speaker 11: It was it was like one of those where you like,
Speaker 11: you know, you want to talk to the goat, you
Speaker 11: want to tell the goat how you're about to knock
Speaker 11: him out. And he was just like, I don't even
Speaker 11: know who you are, so I mean, like, like what
Speaker 11: do I care you know, I was just I was like, well, whatever,
Speaker 11: I got Steve pretty good in that game too. Steve,
Speaker 11: Steve Young is Look, I call him the great Steve
Speaker 11: Young whenever I see him, because he truly is. He's
Speaker 11: one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever played this game.
Speaker 11: Steve was so damn good. I caught him one time.
Speaker 11: I called him in mid air. He tried to jump
Speaker 11: over me. He was running like a quarterback keeper and
Speaker 11: I umped him on his head. It was pretty It
Speaker 11: was a pretty good hit too. He fumbled the ball
Speaker 11: and stuff. That was that same game. And look, honestly,
Speaker 11: I think that ninety six season I played against some
Speaker 11: really good teams that year, man, I mean we played
Speaker 11: against I mean Dallas was still rolling at that time.
Speaker 6: That might have been ninety two to ninety three. I
Speaker 6: played against.
Speaker 11: Brett Farr, we played, we played all the great quarterbacks
Speaker 11: back then. I mean, there were some this really really
Speaker 11: dominant teams in the early nineties.
Speaker 2: But I remember Mike Hombrin telling me about Far. He said,
Speaker 2: what's it like coaching him? He said, well, he loves
Speaker 2: degree of difficulty. That guy's open, but that guy's got
Speaker 2: three guys covering him. He was covered by three.
Speaker 6: That seems like Brett. That seems like, you know, I
Speaker 6: first met Brett.
Speaker 2: But could you fool him into making him make those
Speaker 2: difficult throws?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 11: Interestingly enough, Okay, so I played against Brett when he
Speaker 11: was in his rookie season, when Sterling, Sharp and all
Speaker 11: of them were still there in the early nineties.
Speaker 6: Could you full Brett into it?
Speaker 11: I don't know, necessary really think that Brett really cared
Speaker 11: if you were trying to fall in.
Speaker 6: He's gonna do what he wanted to do.
Speaker 11: So whether or not he read the coverage right or not,
Speaker 11: it didn't really matter. He's just throwing what he's doing
Speaker 11: what he wants to do because he had he had
Speaker 11: that kind of like arm arrogance that guys like Stafford
Speaker 11: have now where it doesn't really matter what you do
Speaker 11: because they know there's like only about you know, maybe
Speaker 11: a handful of guys who've ever walked the face of
Speaker 11: the earth who can fit a ball into a spot
Speaker 11: that maybe no one else can, so they do it anyway.
Speaker 6: Those are guys who are like Elway was kind of
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 11: Like when you played against John you knew that he
Speaker 11: had that go go gadget arm and could throw it
Speaker 11: a mile and he could also run, and he just
Speaker 11: had that look on his face like I don't really
Speaker 11: care what you do. It's about what I do. And
Speaker 11: those those dudes are special man. And yeah, Brett Brett
Speaker 11: was like that.
Speaker 2: Talking to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. You strike me
Speaker 2: as somebody who doesn't make their Super Bowl pick on Monday. Hmm,
Speaker 2: that you might wait until Friday or Saturday.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's yeah, that's part of my analytical name.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: But is there something that you could see that's going
Speaker 2: to change your opinion today Thursday morning? Is there something
Speaker 2: you could hear or watch that would change your opinion?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 6: The only thing that right now I believe.
Speaker 11: Okay, if you if you heard something about the health
Speaker 11: status about one of these quarterbacks being maybe worse than
Speaker 11: what they're leading it, and you're leading us on to believe.
Speaker 11: So if Drake's shoulder is not quite as good as
Speaker 11: you maybe he says it is, or if Sam's oblique
Speaker 11: is like bothering maybe a little bit more than people
Speaker 11: says it is, that's that's maybe the thing that could
Speaker 11: kind of tilt me one way or another. I'm kind
Speaker 11: of fifty to fifty on this game, man, I really
Speaker 11: am because look, I think Mike, I think the combination
Speaker 11: of Rabel and Josh McDaniels is as good, if not.
Speaker 6: The very best in the league.
Speaker 11: I mean, how many Super Bowls as Josh McDaniel coached
Speaker 11: in Is it like nine? And something ridiculous? Mike has
Speaker 11: played in a bunch and want a bunch. I think
Speaker 11: they're the best coach team in the NFL that combination.
Speaker 11: I think Mike McDonald's one of the most analytical, even keeled,
Speaker 11: level headed guys in the NFL that you're blown away by.
Speaker 11: And their football team defensively is this ridiculous, but so
Speaker 11: is New England's. Seattle's offense is a little bit more explosive.
Speaker 11: Sam has a penchant for either being really good or
Speaker 11: he can have one of those games where you're sitting
Speaker 11: there going mmm, now you know you see why?
Speaker 5: Maybe you know.
Speaker 11: Minnesota has some reservations. Although I think buying large, Minnesota
Speaker 11: still wishes that they had Sam Darnold. I don't know, man,
Speaker 11: I'm going back and forth on this. I'm leaning towards
Speaker 11: Seattle because of how strong they are defensively and because
Speaker 11: of the explosiveness they have on offense, but coaching matters
Speaker 11: in this league, as we know in New England's got
Speaker 11: two of the very best and their defense is a
Speaker 11: problem too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, js N, would you have been a big
Speaker 2: problem for you?
Speaker 10: Ah?
Speaker 11: Wide receivers were a problem for me now, But I
Speaker 11: was I was a big, old like RoboCop type safety
Speaker 11: that was just trying to knock you out.
Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to cover two you.
Speaker 11: I think that's you know, the game has changed so much, man,
Speaker 11: it really had. I was talking to Charles Woodson like
Speaker 11: a couple of years ago we were down and it
Speaker 11: was when we were down in Phoenix when the Chiefs
Speaker 11: were playing Philly the first time, and We're standing on
Speaker 11: the sideline and I was just looking at the players
Speaker 11: and I was like, Charles, what do.
Speaker 6: You notice about about these guys?
Speaker 11: And He's like, just how streamlined and just how athletic
Speaker 11: every single person looks Like the DB's aren't as big
Speaker 11: as they used to be, but there's so much more athletic,
Speaker 11: there's so much more explosive.
Speaker 6: Because we were just talking.
Speaker 11: About like if you let these guys play the same
Speaker 11: way we played, I mean, guys would really be getting hurt.
Speaker 11: They had to kind of dial it back me just
Speaker 11: because of how just how big and thick and muscular
Speaker 11: and stuff all these guys are. But the athleticism is
Speaker 11: so much different. The requirements at defensive back by and
Speaker 11: large are the same. But I think I just think
Speaker 11: the quality of athlete has really ramped up. And for me, Look,
Speaker 11: I would have been there are a few teams I
Speaker 11: still could play for, Like I could still play for
Speaker 11: those big own teams that you know, I would.
Speaker 6: Have been a good you know what I should have done.
Speaker 11: I should have done with the late great mister Al
Speaker 11: Davis told me to do, which was move the linebacker.
Speaker 6: I would have been a hell of a will backer.
Speaker 11: Now, okay, but you know I still got I still
Speaker 11: got my seven eight years in.
Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm good. Now I get to do this, man,
Speaker 6: I mean, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, it doesn't hurt. No, you're done with this.
Speaker 11: No, you know what exactly I heard Andrew talking about
Speaker 11: that that's the thing that you don't miss. But you
Speaker 11: know what, at the same time, I kind of do
Speaker 11: miss the pain a little bit. I kind of do
Speaker 11: miss laying in the training when the last time, oh gosh,
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety eight. I think that was the last time,
Speaker 11: like I that I really felt, you know, like that
Speaker 11: thrill of like knocking the crap out of someone. Although
Speaker 11: I was playing in a like a like a parents
Speaker 11: versus kids soccer game with my daughter like about back
Speaker 11: in like twenty ten, and like kind of slipped on
Speaker 11: the grass and like literally like just I mean went
Speaker 11: head over heels and that.
Speaker 6: That didn't feel very good. But I've had back.
Speaker 11: In twenty fifteen, man, I had like like three like
Speaker 11: a three disc fusion surgery in my neck because of
Speaker 11: the way we used to hit back then. So those
Speaker 11: days of being physical they're long gone for me, Man,
Speaker 11: long gone.
Speaker 2: You look at that Cleveland Brown staff that you had, BELI,
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, it was. How come you guys weren't
Speaker 2: good because.
Speaker 11: We didn't have any offense. We stunk on offense. I mean,
Speaker 11: damn we stunk. It wasn't good. We had one of
Speaker 11: the best defenses in ninety four in the history of
Speaker 11: the league, and I mean we were just snuff people out,
Speaker 11: I mean blank them, and we'd still lose games. So
Speaker 11: that ninety four season, we lost to the Steelers three
Speaker 11: times that year, twice in the regular season.
Speaker 6: Then we lost to them in the divisional round in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 11: I remember we went there to Pittsburgh and we ran
Speaker 11: out on the football for pregame. It was myself, Eric Turner,
Speaker 11: maybe Rob Burnett, Anthony plays a couple of guys on defense.
Speaker 11: I remember seeing this figure like down in the corner
Speaker 11: of the end zone. I see this dude standing there.
Speaker 11: He was like it was like a cut off Great
Speaker 11: T shirt. He had a Steeler pants on, and he
Speaker 11: remember seeing like his arms and it was Greg Lloyd
Speaker 11: and he was standing there waiting. He's just screaming, where
Speaker 11: to bleep is Vinnie? Where's Vinnie? Like Testa Verdi and
Speaker 11: I was. I remember looking at Eric Turner going, dude,
Speaker 11: we are dead. We are dead today and oh my god.
Speaker 11: And you know what they had, So that's when they had.
Speaker 11: They had Bam Morris, John L. Williams and uh who
Speaker 11: was the other running back? Bam John L. I forget
Speaker 11: who the other guy was. They had three backs go
Speaker 11: for over one hundred yards that day.
Speaker 6: Three.
Speaker 11: I had eleven tackles at halftime. So that that's that's
Speaker 11: we just couldn't.
Speaker 6: We just couldn't. We couldn't score. Dan that was a
Speaker 6: problem if.
Speaker 2: That means there at the second level.
Speaker 11: Well, and then and I played down in the but
Speaker 11: because remember I wasn't a big cover guy, they had
Speaker 11: me down in the box a lot. But yeah, you
Speaker 11: know what, that staff Getting back to that staff though
Speaker 11: that was football like that was like going to the
Speaker 11: Harvard of football to learn from Nick and Bill. At
Speaker 11: the same time, it was such It was so hard
Speaker 11: at the time because of the demands that they put
Speaker 11: on you. And I'm telling I had a lot of
Speaker 11: sleepless nights those years, those three years in Cleveland. But
Speaker 11: as I tell Nick now and I tell Bill anytime
Speaker 11: I see him, I would not change.
Speaker 6: It for the world. Those guys are savants. They are
Speaker 6: one of one.
Speaker 11: And whenever you lost football games or didn't play well,
Speaker 11: it was your fault. It wasn't their fault because they
Speaker 11: gave you the answers. This is whether or not you
Speaker 11: could use them. They are that damn smart. And those
Speaker 11: two guys, there are two greatest coaches in my mind
Speaker 11: of all time, without a doubt.
Speaker 2: Which one is the greatest coach of all time?
Speaker 11: You know, I think, look, I think I hit it
Speaker 11: off with I had a much more personal relationship with
Speaker 11: Nick than I did with Bill because Bill was the
Speaker 11: head coach and Nick was the coordinator and the dB coach.
Speaker 11: Bill Bill was very Bill's very much like you think
Speaker 11: he is. Like, Bill was very business by the book,
Speaker 11: not very emotional about things, Like he would say hi
Speaker 11: to you one minute and the next minute tell you
Speaker 11: I'm cutting you get out of here, and like wouldn't
Speaker 11: break a smile. Nick was so hard on you, but
Speaker 11: when you did it the way you want it, he
Speaker 11: would give you that look, that kind of like that
Speaker 11: fatherly look that she's like, I approve that, That's what
Speaker 11: I want from you. So he was the guy who
Speaker 11: I gravitated towards. But I'll tell you what now, both
Speaker 11: of those dudes, they are not for everyone. But if
Speaker 11: you get coached by them, if you get coached by
Speaker 11: them and you win their approval, there's no greater feeling
Speaker 11: because they truly are the grand masters of this game.
Speaker 2: Great to see you, of course, thanks for all your
Speaker 2: contributions this year, your insights. Yeah, Lewis Riddick of the Mothership.
Speaker 2: We'll take it break, We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow? Once again, our thanks to the San Francisco Giants.
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Speaker 2: shop here across from the Oracle Park. They actually put
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Speaker 2: during the morning and treated us to dinner last night.
Speaker 2: So thank you for your hospitality. All right, so last
Speaker 2: call for phone calls tomorrow, we'll talk to Chris collins Worth,
Speaker 2: Mike treco Ce, d Lamb, the Cowboys, and Malcolm Butler,
Speaker 2: and we will have Melissa Stark and Kaylee Hardton. They're
Speaker 2: going to be doing sidelines for NBC. Let's see Shuffles
Speaker 2: in Phoenix. Hey Shuffles, welcome.
Speaker 9: Back, Good morning, Thank you. Great interview with Bo Jackson
Speaker 9: was fantastic and him saying that he just had prostate cancer.
Speaker 9: One of my buddies just got diagnosed. And as soon
Speaker 9: as Bo said that, I texted him and said, hey man,
Speaker 9: Bo Jackson just said, prostate cancer surgery, You're gonna be okay.
Speaker 9: So it's fantastic. Secondly, Marvin and I had a vet
Speaker 9: from when UFA beat Connecticut early, and I didn't know
Speaker 9: did Marvin ever take a pie of the face. No,
Speaker 9: he did not, because if he wanted to double up,
Speaker 9: we could do the Uncle Phil that he mentioned the
Speaker 9: other day and the pie of the face for the tournament,
Speaker 9: depending on how Arizona or Connecticut do. I didn't know
Speaker 9: if he'd want a part of that.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's Arizona the tournament I'm taking.
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sorry, Wow, undefeated.
Speaker 2: You still don't believe in U of A, do you?
Speaker 2: I know I want to, but you know how this
Speaker 2: is when I start to fill out my bracket and
Speaker 2: I look at Arizona and I go, I just go Chargers.
Speaker 2: They are the Chargers of college college foot trip. I know,
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Ye the year you leave them out,
Speaker 2: I know, I know they'll go to the final four.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Jim in Florida. Hi Jim, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Ben? Nice to talk to you. I just wanted to
Speaker 10: comment on bo Jackson. If it wasn't the best, it
Speaker 10: was one of the better interviews you've ever done, and
Speaker 10: I would pause it. So Jackson saved somebody's life today.
Speaker 2: You're probably right, Jim, and I hope he did. I
Speaker 2: hope that people listen to that and go get tested.
Speaker 2: And I said this to the Dan Nets yesterday we
Speaker 2: did a little video, a public service announcement for prostate
Speaker 2: cancer getting tested, and it's really easy to do it.
Speaker 2: And if you get that opportunity, no not, if you
Speaker 2: get it, make sure you get the opportunity to get tested.
Speaker 2: That in colon cancer guys were stupid. We don't like
Speaker 2: going to the doctor. Nobody likes going to the doctor.
Speaker 2: But when you go there, and you can be healthier, smarter,
Speaker 2: live longer than do it. And I'm very, very thankful
Speaker 2: that both came on and shared his story because he
Speaker 2: had prostate cancer three months ago. Mike and Wisconsin. Hi Mike,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Big?
Speaker 12: Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Hey Dan,
Speaker 12: I have a Super Bowl trivia question if you're for
Speaker 12: testing your knowledge? Oh okay, So, so this player he
Speaker 12: had six hundred and two career rushing yards and ironically
Speaker 12: he set and still holds the Super Bowl rushing record
Speaker 12: with two hundred and four yards.
Speaker 2: Was that Timmy Smith of Washington.
Speaker 12: Jimmy Smith, Washington and Super Bowl twenty two. They routed
Speaker 12: Fritzy Broncos for you.
Speaker 6: We don't need to do that.
Speaker 2: We don't need to go You gotta be specific with
Speaker 2: the number of the team that routed the Denver Broncos
Speaker 2: in Super Bowls.
Speaker 13: Todd at number twenty two, running up and down the sideline,
Speaker 13: not being able to catch Timmy Smith.
Speaker 2: Was that the lily? That was Tony Lily?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right man, they took advantage.
Speaker 5: We had a ten nothing lead in that game.
Speaker 2: We we lose, I know, Setan. Would you give us
Speaker 2: the final results to the poll question today, very very controversial.
Speaker 3: Holy smokes, who should Tom Brady root for in the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Shockingly, fifty six percent of the audience say
Speaker 3: the Patriots.
Speaker 4: How Tom got that one wrong?
Speaker 3: And the biggest dog on the show today Bo Jackson,
Speaker 3: Gerald McCoy, Andrew Luck or Peter Herbstreet Kirk's dog Bo
Speaker 3: Jackson running away with that one, running away. The dog
Speaker 3: is in second place, a comfortable second place.
Speaker 2: That was a great That's a great looking dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah that is if that is a good dog, the
Speaker 3: very definition of a good dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no way my dog could have sat
Speaker 2: there like Peter sat in his own chair. While Kirk
Speaker 2: Kurbstreet sat here, my dog would be in my lap,
Speaker 2: she'd be all over the place. So my dog, you know,
Speaker 2: we're out here in San Francisco, be home man Cave,
Speaker 2: and my dog has been going crazy because she didn't
Speaker 2: get to go to work. So my wife drops my
Speaker 2: dog off. Winnie is watching when Peter the Dog is
Speaker 2: on TV, and she is going bonkers at the man Cave,
Speaker 2: barking at the screen because she wants to protect Tyler.
Speaker 2: That's love, yes, Uh.
Speaker 13: And there's other dogs running around that, you know, so
Speaker 13: there's more stimuli. And the dog was still Peter was
Speaker 13: still quietly sitting there.
Speaker 2: But you know what was great is the number of
Speaker 2: our listeners, our viewers who send in pictures of their
Speaker 2: dog watching Peter the Dog.
Speaker 3: Dogs all over the place went crazy as soon as
Speaker 3: they saw Peter.
Speaker 2: Uh. But I haven't seen Bo. I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: last time I saw Bo Jackson. But I don't know
Speaker 2: if I've been more excited to talk to somebody because
Speaker 2: it had been such a long period of time, and
Speaker 2: we played golf together and I just remember I thought
Speaker 2: he was going to hit at three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: yards and then I realized he couldn't out bow a
Speaker 2: golf course like he couldn't. He said, if that ball
Speaker 2: was moving ninety five miles an hour, I'd have a chance.
Speaker 2: But the fact that it was just it kind of
Speaker 2: sits there and mocks you. Just looks, you know, it's
Speaker 2: looking right at you and bow. He just couldn't get
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, paul I just checked back the last time we
Speaker 7: had Bo Jackson the show. He was a spring training
Speaker 7: coach in Scottsdale two thousand and four and he was
Speaker 7: with the White Sox and he joined the show.
Speaker 2: And I love that. Andrew Luck came from Stanford. It's
Speaker 2: forty five minutes, he said. But he wasn't selling a
Speaker 2: product like everybody is normally selling a product. Lewis Riddick
Speaker 2: just came over. You're not selling a product. They just
Speaker 2: wanted to come in and talk, and that's that's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. But Andrew Luck coming in and being
Speaker 2: a good sport, letting Paulie mimic him make fun of it,
Speaker 2: and he took it. Good sport, fantastic impersonation.
Speaker 6: I gotta give it to him.
Speaker 4: Ah, I need some work, like Stanford football need some work.
Speaker 5: We're getting there.
Speaker 2: But we did find out that Seaton's been sitting on
Speaker 2: a Tom Brady impersonation.
Speaker 4: It's not so much that I've been sitting on it, Den.
Speaker 4: I just think that hard work, you know, dedication is
Speaker 4: really what's gotten me here to this point. That's why
Speaker 4: I can't really pick who patriots. I don't have a
Speaker 4: rooting interest in this. I wrote for hard work and
Speaker 4: dedication because that's met here.
Speaker 2: We're definitely not getting Tom Brady on your shit's gonna be,
Speaker 2: We're more so not getting him out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe we can get Clint Kubiak.
Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't add the ad. Yeah, like freeze too emotional.
Speaker 3: I just I just I don't even know why that's
Speaker 3: the impression today, but I just threw that out there
Speaker 3: because it's just too emotional about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were upset?
Speaker 4: What is he doing? What is he doing?
Speaker 2: We say that about Todd a lot. Okay, Todd, would
Speaker 2: you learn today.
Speaker 13: Bo Jackson would rather face a ninety five mile per
Speaker 13: hour fastball that have to do with a golf ball
Speaker 13: that just sits there on the tee Satan.
Speaker 4: Tom Brady's making more sense than Todd. Fritz Paul Andrew
Speaker 4: Luck is a great great sport.
Speaker 5: Marvin bo knows when payday is.
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