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Speaker 2: what's the poll? Qull Oh is this still the Tom

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got two of them up there right now.

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Speaker 3: Vince Wilfork, by the way, has joined the fight. He's

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Speaker 3: not pleased with Tom either. Who should Tom Brady root

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Speaker 3: for in this Super Bowl? I can't believe we're actually

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Speaker 3: asking this New England, Seattle or neither New England have

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Speaker 3: fifty five percent of that vote. Neither has thirty seven percent,

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Speaker 3: and then the biggest dog on the show today, Bo Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Gerald McCoy, Andrew Luck or Peter herb Street. Bo Jackson

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Speaker 3: running away with that one, Peter herb Street and second

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Speaker 3: with almost twenty percent of that vote.

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Speaker 4: Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 3: Just based on the way Bo Jackson is dominating, he's

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Speaker 3: currently in third. He is losing to the dog Peter,

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Speaker 3: but it's a respectable five point seven percent.

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Speaker 2: They're working the sidelines for Super Bowl sixty. They will

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Speaker 2: join us in about twenty five minutes from now. Is

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Speaker 2: Andrew Luck, Stanford University general manager and former number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick by the Coltspack in twenty twelve. As we

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Speaker 2: make way for Andrew Luck on the program, looking lean, man,

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Speaker 2: looks lean, how much weight did you lose?

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Speaker 5: A good bit twenty pounds. I will say it's too

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Speaker 5: early for my ego to be hurt by being behind

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Speaker 5: a dog at a poll. But I'm coming to terms

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Speaker 5: with that.

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Speaker 2: It is a good looking dog.

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Speaker 5: Though it's a famous dog, it's a good looking dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How close did you come to coaching Stanford football?

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Speaker 5: Not close at all.

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Speaker 2: You had no interest, no, no interest, no desire.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't right for me?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought that that's as close as you can

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Speaker 2: get to replicating what it's like to play. You have

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Speaker 2: no interest in replicating that feeling.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 5: Look, I volunteer coach for two years at Pwelltahigh School

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Speaker 5: before before taking the GM job, was the freshman offensive

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Speaker 2: But were you good?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think I was very good. I don't

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Speaker 5: think I was. It's I do think I do think

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Speaker 5: there's some truth to what you said, Dan about it's

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Speaker 5: the It's probably the closest thing to replicating what it's

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Speaker 5: like to playing, but not right for me. I want

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Speaker 5: to have an incredible respect for the coaching profession to

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Speaker 5: uh for my life, our family. What Stanford football needs

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Speaker 5: and needed a year ago and needs now like I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm in, I'm in the perfect spot.

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Speaker 2: Explain what your role is.

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Speaker 5: Uh So I'm the general manager of the team. I

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Speaker 5: I think maybe in some ways also act like a

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Speaker 5: team president or an athletic director just for football. Do

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Speaker 5: a lot of fundraising, a lot of spreading the good word.

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Speaker 5: I feel like a like an evangelical preacher barnstorman you

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Speaker 5: know the country, you know, to proselytizing about Stanford football.

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Speaker 5: Roster management certainly made have made coaching changes, you know,

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Speaker 5: the short tenure and hired Tavita Pritchard ours our as

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Speaker 5: our head coach and helping him with staff. And look,

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Speaker 5: we's what's still so unique about college sports as we

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Speaker 5: Stanford football exist within Stanford University's ecosystem, right like it's

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Speaker 5: we're part of this amazing institution of higher ed. So

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Speaker 5: building bridges with the academy. I mean, we have one

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Speaker 5: hundred and nine guys on the team, let's say, eighteen

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Speaker 5: to twenty two year olds. They're amazing. They also, like

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Speaker 5: eighteen to twenty two year olds, do some dumb stuff,

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Speaker 5: like I still do dumb stuff, Like we all did

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Speaker 5: dumb stuff, and it's uh so working with them every

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Speaker 5: day is a blast. And yeah, it's a little bit

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Speaker 5: of everything. It's a little bit of everything, a lot

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Speaker 2: Dan given nil if you were coming out of high school?

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Speaker 2: Would you have still gone to Stanford?

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Speaker 5: I would have look on what three or four years ago?

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. You know, we we we were a

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Speaker 5: little slow to adapt and and embrace the changes. But

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Speaker 5: today app I was talking to Christian McCaffrey about this

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Speaker 5: last week, we we we we saw each other. Was

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Speaker 5: asking his perspective on it, and and and he was he's,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he'd say it. If you're sitting right here,

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Speaker 5: he'd go to Stanford again. Right. We have a unique

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Speaker 5: value proposition, and I do know we are serious about football.

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Speaker 5: And if you're a serious football player that also has

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Speaker 5: the academic qualifications, the grades, you know we're the place

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Speaker 2: But as far as money goes, yeah, and I have

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Speaker 2: somebody who's a great source on this. You got to

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Speaker 2: have around forty million dollars if you want to be

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Speaker 2: a top end football program. That feels like in the

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Speaker 2: in the treasure trove there the collectives you're nil? Is

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Speaker 2: that a fair number? Do you think a n Stanford

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I won't get into our numbers or any

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Speaker 5: other numbers. I know. I don't see the balance sheets,

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Speaker 5: you know, including collectives, but it's it's a murky market.

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Speaker 5: There's there's there's not much transparency to it. I think

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Speaker 5: there are certainly schools and programs that seem willing to

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Speaker 5: do whatever it takes, you know, to get there. We

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Speaker 5: think we can do it our way and be competitive

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Speaker 5: and look the person the pudding, right, we got to

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Speaker 5: go out and play games. You got to go out

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Speaker 5: and put a winning product on the field. You got

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Speaker 5: to teach great football. You got to coach great football.

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Speaker 5: And I think we have that with our young men

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Speaker 2: But how is it when you're negotiating with somebody who

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Speaker 2: wants money? Yeah, how does that work? Do you talk

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Speaker 2: to the player, the agent, the parents?

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Speaker 5: It's the full spectrum.

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Speaker 6: But what is that like?

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Speaker 5: You got players certainly representing themselves, You've got agents, and

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Speaker 5: then you have the full continuum of agents, right from

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Speaker 5: those who have been doing it for a long time,

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Speaker 5: from those just starting out on the journey, parents as well. Certainly,

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Speaker 5: each one creates a little bit of a different dynamic

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Speaker 5: with its own challenges. I also have a great assistant GM.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm a people pleaser, Dan, So if I

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Speaker 5: it's still part of college is recruiting right, and fall

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Speaker 5: in love with the kid, and and and selling Stanford.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I get compromise and negotiation fairly quickly.

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Speaker 5: You know, what, do you want? Five million day? Okay,

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Speaker 5: I'll give it to you. Let's make a seven, let's

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Speaker 5: go here you go. You're I but it's uh, it's

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Speaker 5: it's a it's a muscle. I'm wanting to exercise as well. Absolutely, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh, what do you miss about football?

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Speaker 5: You know? The elements of football that I do miss

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Speaker 5: are part of why I'm back in the game in

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Speaker 5: this role right as as a general manager, having a role,

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Speaker 5: being on a team. Game days are fun, like I

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Speaker 5: I forgot, Like I actually sort of enjoy the stress

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Speaker 5: of are we gonna you know, win or not? Like

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Speaker 5: it's it's exhausting. Uh, in a in a real way.

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Speaker 2: How does the loss affect you when you're the GM

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Speaker 2: as opposed to a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you're not as physically hurt. I don't miss don't

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Speaker 5: miss getting hit. Okay, I don't miss getting hit. I

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Speaker 5: think you asked different questions the area were sporting our

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Speaker 5: coaches enough, Like there's no waiver wire in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: there's no you don't sign in college like there is

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. You don't sign guys off the street

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Speaker 5: to a place. So you think about, you know, how

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Speaker 5: are we developing our guys? What are Do we have

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Speaker 5: enough of what we need for the future? Do you

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Speaker 5: know do I need to ask certain questions that help

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Speaker 5: us going? But I I you know one, you're You're

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Speaker 5: in it with everybody. It's in and it's fun to

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Speaker 5: be back in it. Uh and live in the highs

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Speaker 2: He's Andrew luck, the Stanford University general manager. I did

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Speaker 2: not know this, but people at Stanford sent this to me.

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Speaker 2: Stanford's one of five schools to produce a US president

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Speaker 2: and a Super Bowl winning quarterback. You know the answers,

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Speaker 2: don't you? Okay?

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Speaker 5: I better know the answers. I hope I do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Who wants to take a guess here? There are

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Speaker 2: five schools, so Stanford's won. Paul Michigan Michigan, is there?

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Speaker 2: Marvin Delaware, Delaware? Sneaky Snaky Miami of Ohio Navy. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: who's the most famous graduate of Stanford?

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Speaker 5: Who is the most famous? I don't think Tiger graduated.

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Speaker 2: You didn't you didn't give a degree.

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Speaker 5: Christian hasn't graduated yet.

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Speaker 2: Uh, do you give honorary degrees.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure we give honorary I don't know if we

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Speaker 5: got I don't have that authority, Dan, I don't know

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Speaker 5: who's the most famous. Herbert Hoover was our president.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Larry Page and Serge oh h very rich. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: think in my life right now, to see Jim Plunkett

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Speaker 5: he's maybe the most relevant Stanford grad in my life

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Speaker 2: I always thought that you were a defensive minded player

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Speaker 5: I don't know. The last time I played defense was

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Speaker 5: I enjoyed quarterback. I did relish the opportunities to hit people.

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Speaker 2: But when you would throw an interception, you wanted to

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Speaker 5: There was part of me that did. And you know,

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Speaker 5: it's some of that, and I certainly if there's young

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Speaker 5: takes a toll, right, And there's there's part of being

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Speaker 2: Can you do what Peyton did and just go into

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Speaker 2: a fetal position.

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Speaker 5: I'm not your went to a fetal position.

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Speaker 2: He went down. He wasn't going to try to make

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I played the way I played. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: When you look at the game, it used to be

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Speaker 2: that college and the pros were very different. Now the

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Speaker 2: NFL has taken a lot of what college football does.

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Speaker 2: Are they still doing that that what you run offensively

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Speaker 2: But you run it by you know, you're it's going

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Speaker 7: It was a Lime scooter. They're all over in San

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Speaker 2: I did ask him if he was going to do

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Speaker 7: Yes, But when Andrew came back and took over his

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Nobody was more excited to see you back in mainstream

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Speaker 2: America then, thank good luck with the role there.

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: And uh, can you get fired? Sure you can? Absolutely? Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't want that to happen. I'm just saying, I

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Speaker 5: My boss is our athletic director. Oh okay, he's fantastic body. Yes,

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Speaker 2: on the program. No looks like he could still hit somebody.

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Speaker 2: Do you run into these guys and does this come up?

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Speaker 11: No, I haven't seen a lot of those. I haven't

442
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 11: seen a lot of those dudes. But you know what,

443
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 11: that's how we used to do it. You remember the

444
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 11: late great Eric Turner safety from the Browns who passed away. Yeah,

445
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 11: probably one of the fiercest hitters I've ever seen ever,

446
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 11: like this guy.

447
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Speaker 6: That's how football was though back then. That's how it

448
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 6: used to be.

449
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Speaker 2: I remember Rodney Harrison telling me that he faced Jerry Rice. Yeah,

450
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: Jerry came over the middle. Rodney said, I don't care

451
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Speaker 2: who he is. He clocked him.

452
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Speaker 6: You know, it's funny.

453
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Speaker 2: Got fined for it, but he said, I he goes.

454
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: I had to let Jerry Rice know who I was,

455
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Speaker 2: and you don't come over the middle.

456
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Speaker 11: Then I have the funniest damn story about Jerry Rice. Okay,

457
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 11: so we're playing San Francisco Monday Night Football nineteen ninety

458
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Speaker 11: six in Atlanta, and that's when Steve was there, and

459
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Speaker 11: Brent Jones I believe, was still there. Ricky was the

460
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 11: running back waters and all anyway, Jerry runs a slant

461
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Speaker 11: and I had him lined up and Steve overthrew him,

462
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Speaker 11: and I'm screaming in Jerry's face. I'm like, expletive, expletive expletive,

463
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Speaker 11: like you're so lucky you didn't catch that ball.

464
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Speaker 1: You're so lucky.

465
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Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what.

466
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Speaker 11: I don't know if I can get up, but I

467
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 11: literally like he looks at me and he grabs my

468
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 11: shoulder pad and he turns me around and looks looks

469
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Speaker 11: up my name plate with backs and he goes, who

470
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Speaker 11: are you?

471
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Speaker 6: And walks away. And I was just like.

472
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Speaker 11: Wow, I just kind of get in. A couple of

473
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Speaker 11: teammates were just like, damn dude, he just clowns. He

474
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 11: literally turned me around, he was like.

475
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Speaker 5: Who are you.

476
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Speaker 6: I was like, you would have known who I was.

477
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Speaker 11: It was it was like one of those where you like,

478
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Speaker 11: you know, you want to talk to the goat, you

479
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 11: want to tell the goat how you're about to knock

480
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Speaker 11: him out. And he was just like, I don't even

481
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Speaker 11: know who you are, so I mean, like, like what

482
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Speaker 11: do I care you know, I was just I was like, well, whatever,

483
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Speaker 11: I got Steve pretty good in that game too. Steve,

484
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Speaker 11: Steve Young is Look, I call him the great Steve

485
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 11: Young whenever I see him, because he truly is. He's

486
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 11: one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever played this game.

487
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Speaker 11: Steve was so damn good. I caught him one time.

488
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Speaker 11: I called him in mid air. He tried to jump

489
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Speaker 11: over me. He was running like a quarterback keeper and

490
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Speaker 11: I umped him on his head. It was pretty It

491
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 11: was a pretty good hit too. He fumbled the ball

492
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Speaker 11: and stuff. That was that same game. And look, honestly,

493
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Speaker 11: I think that ninety six season I played against some

494
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 11: really good teams that year, man, I mean we played

495
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 11: against I mean Dallas was still rolling at that time.

496
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Speaker 6: That might have been ninety two to ninety three. I

497
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 6: played against.

498
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Speaker 11: Brett Farr, we played, we played all the great quarterbacks

499
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Speaker 11: back then. I mean, there were some this really really

500
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Speaker 11: dominant teams in the early nineties.

501
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Speaker 2: But I remember Mike Hombrin telling me about Far. He said,

502
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Speaker 2: what's it like coaching him? He said, well, he loves

503
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: degree of difficulty. That guy's open, but that guy's got

504
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: three guys covering him. He was covered by three.

505
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Speaker 6: That seems like Brett. That seems like, you know, I

506
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 6: first met Brett.

507
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Speaker 2: But could you fool him into making him make those

508
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: difficult throws?

509
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Speaker 6: Now?

510
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Speaker 11: Interestingly enough, Okay, so I played against Brett when he

511
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Speaker 11: was in his rookie season, when Sterling, Sharp and all

512
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 11: of them were still there in the early nineties.

513
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Speaker 6: Could you full Brett into it?

514
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Speaker 11: I don't know, necessary really think that Brett really cared

515
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 11: if you were trying to fall in.

516
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 6: He's gonna do what he wanted to do.

517
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 11: So whether or not he read the coverage right or not,

518
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 11: it didn't really matter. He's just throwing what he's doing

519
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 11: what he wants to do because he had he had

520
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 11: that kind of like arm arrogance that guys like Stafford

521
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 11: have now where it doesn't really matter what you do

522
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 11: because they know there's like only about you know, maybe

523
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 11: a handful of guys who've ever walked the face of

524
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 11: the earth who can fit a ball into a spot

525
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 11: that maybe no one else can, so they do it anyway.

526
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Speaker 6: Those are guys who are like Elway was kind of

527
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 6: like that.

528
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Speaker 11: Like when you played against John you knew that he

529
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 11: had that go go gadget arm and could throw it

530
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 11: a mile and he could also run, and he just

531
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 11: had that look on his face like I don't really

532
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 11: care what you do. It's about what I do. And

533
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 11: those those dudes are special man. And yeah, Brett Brett

534
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 11: was like that.

535
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Speaker 2: Talking to Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. You strike me

536
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: as somebody who doesn't make their Super Bowl pick on Monday. Hmm,

537
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: that you might wait until Friday or Saturday.

538
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's yeah, that's part of my analytical name.

539
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 5: Man.

540
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: But is there something that you could see that's going

541
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: to change your opinion today Thursday morning? Is there something

542
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: you could hear or watch that would change your opinion?

543
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 10: You know?

544
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 6: The only thing that right now I believe.

545
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 11: Okay, if you if you heard something about the health

546
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 11: status about one of these quarterbacks being maybe worse than

547
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 11: what they're leading it, and you're leading us on to believe.

548
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 11: So if Drake's shoulder is not quite as good as

549
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 11: you maybe he says it is, or if Sam's oblique

550
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 11: is like bothering maybe a little bit more than people

551
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 11: says it is, that's that's maybe the thing that could

552
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 11: kind of tilt me one way or another. I'm kind

553
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 11: of fifty to fifty on this game, man, I really

554
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 11: am because look, I think Mike, I think the combination

555
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 11: of Rabel and Josh McDaniels is as good, if not.

556
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 6: The very best in the league.

557
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Speaker 11: I mean, how many Super Bowls as Josh McDaniel coached

558
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 11: in Is it like nine? And something ridiculous? Mike has

559
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 11: played in a bunch and want a bunch. I think

560
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 11: they're the best coach team in the NFL that combination.

561
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Speaker 11: I think Mike McDonald's one of the most analytical, even keeled,

562
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 11: level headed guys in the NFL that you're blown away by.

563
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 11: And their football team defensively is this ridiculous, but so

564
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 11: is New England's. Seattle's offense is a little bit more explosive.

565
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 11: Sam has a penchant for either being really good or

566
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 11: he can have one of those games where you're sitting

567
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 11: there going mmm, now you know you see why?

568
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 5: Maybe you know.

569
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Speaker 11: Minnesota has some reservations. Although I think buying large, Minnesota

570
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 11: still wishes that they had Sam Darnold. I don't know, man,

571
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 11: I'm going back and forth on this. I'm leaning towards

572
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 11: Seattle because of how strong they are defensively and because

573
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 11: of the explosiveness they have on offense, but coaching matters

574
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 11: in this league, as we know in New England's got

575
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 11: two of the very best and their defense is a

576
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 11: problem too.

577
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, js N, would you have been a big

578
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: problem for you?

579
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 10: Ah?

580
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 11: Wide receivers were a problem for me now, But I

581
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 11: was I was a big, old like RoboCop type safety

582
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 11: that was just trying to knock you out.

583
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to cover two you.

584
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 11: I think that's you know, the game has changed so much, man,

585
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 11: it really had. I was talking to Charles Woodson like

586
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 11: a couple of years ago we were down and it

587
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 11: was when we were down in Phoenix when the Chiefs

588
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 11: were playing Philly the first time, and We're standing on

589
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 11: the sideline and I was just looking at the players

590
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 11: and I was like, Charles, what do.

591
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 6: You notice about about these guys?

592
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 11: And He's like, just how streamlined and just how athletic

593
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 11: every single person looks Like the DB's aren't as big

594
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 11: as they used to be, but there's so much more athletic,

595
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 11: there's so much more explosive.

596
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: Because we were just talking.

597
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 11: About like if you let these guys play the same

598
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 11: way we played, I mean, guys would really be getting hurt.

599
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 11: They had to kind of dial it back me just

600
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 11: because of how just how big and thick and muscular

601
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 11: and stuff all these guys are. But the athleticism is

602
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 11: so much different. The requirements at defensive back by and

603
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 11: large are the same. But I think I just think

604
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 11: the quality of athlete has really ramped up. And for me, Look,

605
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 11: I would have been there are a few teams I

606
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 11: still could play for, Like I could still play for

607
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 11: those big own teams that you know, I would.

608
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 6: Have been a good you know what I should have done.

609
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 11: I should have done with the late great mister Al

610
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 11: Davis told me to do, which was move the linebacker.

611
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 6: I would have been a hell of a will backer.

612
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 11: Now, okay, but you know I still got I still

613
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 11: got my seven eight years in.

614
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm good. Now I get to do this, man,

615
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 6: I mean, you.

616
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, it doesn't hurt. No, you're done with this.

617
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 11: No, you know what exactly I heard Andrew talking about

618
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 11: that that's the thing that you don't miss. But you

619
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 11: know what, at the same time, I kind of do

620
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 11: miss the pain a little bit. I kind of do

621
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 11: miss laying in the training when the last time, oh gosh,

622
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety eight. I think that was the last time,

623
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 11: like I that I really felt, you know, like that

624
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 11: thrill of like knocking the crap out of someone. Although

625
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 11: I was playing in a like a like a parents

626
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 11: versus kids soccer game with my daughter like about back

627
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 11: in like twenty ten, and like kind of slipped on

628
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 11: the grass and like literally like just I mean went

629
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 11: head over heels and that.

630
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 6: That didn't feel very good. But I've had back.

631
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 11: In twenty fifteen, man, I had like like three like

632
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 11: a three disc fusion surgery in my neck because of

633
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 11: the way we used to hit back then. So those

634
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 11: days of being physical they're long gone for me, Man,

635
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 11: long gone.

636
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: You look at that Cleveland Brown staff that you had, BELI,

637
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, it was. How come you guys weren't

638
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: good because.

639
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 11: We didn't have any offense. We stunk on offense. I mean,

640
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 11: damn we stunk. It wasn't good. We had one of

641
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 11: the best defenses in ninety four in the history of

642
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 11: the league, and I mean we were just snuff people out,

643
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 11: I mean blank them, and we'd still lose games. So

644
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 11: that ninety four season, we lost to the Steelers three

645
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 11: times that year, twice in the regular season.

646
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 6: Then we lost to them in the divisional round in Pittsburgh.

647
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 11: I remember we went there to Pittsburgh and we ran

648
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 11: out on the football for pregame. It was myself, Eric Turner,

649
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 11: maybe Rob Burnett, Anthony plays a couple of guys on defense.

650
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 11: I remember seeing this figure like down in the corner

651
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 11: of the end zone. I see this dude standing there.

652
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 11: He was like it was like a cut off Great

653
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 11: T shirt. He had a Steeler pants on, and he

654
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 11: remember seeing like his arms and it was Greg Lloyd

655
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 11: and he was standing there waiting. He's just screaming, where

656
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 11: to bleep is Vinnie? Where's Vinnie? Like Testa Verdi and

657
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 11: I was. I remember looking at Eric Turner going, dude,

658
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 11: we are dead. We are dead today and oh my god.

659
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 11: And you know what they had, So that's when they had.

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Speaker 11: They had Bam Morris, John L. Williams and uh who

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Speaker 11: was the other running back? Bam John L. I forget

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Speaker 11: who the other guy was. They had three backs go

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Speaker 11: for over one hundred yards that day.

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Speaker 6: Three.

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Speaker 11: I had eleven tackles at halftime. So that that's that's

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Speaker 11: we just couldn't.

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Speaker 6: We just couldn't. We couldn't score. Dan that was a

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Speaker 6: problem if.

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Speaker 2: That means there at the second level.

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Speaker 11: Well, and then and I played down in the but

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Speaker 11: because remember I wasn't a big cover guy, they had

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Speaker 11: me down in the box a lot. But yeah, you

673
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Speaker 11: know what, that staff Getting back to that staff though

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Speaker 11: that was football like that was like going to the

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Speaker 11: Harvard of football to learn from Nick and Bill. At

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Speaker 11: the same time, it was such It was so hard

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Speaker 11: at the time because of the demands that they put

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Speaker 11: on you. And I'm telling I had a lot of

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00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 11: sleepless nights those years, those three years in Cleveland. But

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Speaker 11: as I tell Nick now and I tell Bill anytime

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Speaker 11: I see him, I would not change.

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Speaker 6: It for the world. Those guys are savants. They are

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Speaker 6: one of one.

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Speaker 11: And whenever you lost football games or didn't play well,

685
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 11: it was your fault. It wasn't their fault because they

686
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 11: gave you the answers. This is whether or not you

687
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 11: could use them. They are that damn smart. And those

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Speaker 11: two guys, there are two greatest coaches in my mind

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Speaker 11: of all time, without a doubt.

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Speaker 2: Which one is the greatest coach of all time?

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Speaker 11: You know, I think, look, I think I hit it

692
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Speaker 11: off with I had a much more personal relationship with

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Speaker 11: Nick than I did with Bill because Bill was the

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Speaker 11: head coach and Nick was the coordinator and the dB coach.

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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 11: Bill Bill was very Bill's very much like you think

696
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 11: he is. Like, Bill was very business by the book,

697
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 11: not very emotional about things, Like he would say hi

698
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 11: to you one minute and the next minute tell you

699
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 11: I'm cutting you get out of here, and like wouldn't

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Speaker 11: break a smile. Nick was so hard on you, but

701
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Speaker 11: when you did it the way you want it, he

702
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 11: would give you that look, that kind of like that

703
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 11: fatherly look that she's like, I approve that, That's what

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Speaker 11: I want from you. So he was the guy who

705
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Speaker 11: I gravitated towards. But I'll tell you what now, both

706
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 11: of those dudes, they are not for everyone. But if

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Speaker 11: you get coached by them, if you get coached by

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Speaker 11: them and you win their approval, there's no greater feeling

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Speaker 11: because they truly are the grand masters of this game.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you, of course, thanks for all your

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Speaker 2: contributions this year, your insights. Yeah, Lewis Riddick of the Mothership.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it break, We're back after this.

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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in

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Speaker 2: store tomorrow? Once again, our thanks to the San Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 2: They very accommodating. They allowed us to set up up

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Speaker 2: shop here across from the Oracle Park. They actually put

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Speaker 2: the DP show logo up in the jumbo tron there

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Speaker 2: during the morning and treated us to dinner last night.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for your hospitality. All right, so last

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Speaker 2: call for phone calls tomorrow, we'll talk to Chris collins Worth,

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Speaker 2: Mike treco Ce, d Lamb, the Cowboys, and Malcolm Butler,

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Speaker 2: and we will have Melissa Stark and Kaylee Hardton. They're

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Speaker 2: going to be doing sidelines for NBC. Let's see Shuffles

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Speaker 2: in Phoenix. Hey Shuffles, welcome.

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Speaker 9: Back, Good morning, Thank you. Great interview with Bo Jackson

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Speaker 9: was fantastic and him saying that he just had prostate cancer.

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Speaker 9: One of my buddies just got diagnosed. And as soon

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Speaker 9: as Bo said that, I texted him and said, hey man,

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Speaker 9: Bo Jackson just said, prostate cancer surgery, You're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 9: So it's fantastic. Secondly, Marvin and I had a vet

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Speaker 9: from when UFA beat Connecticut early, and I didn't know

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Speaker 9: did Marvin ever take a pie of the face. No,

737
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Speaker 9: he did not, because if he wanted to double up,

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Speaker 9: we could do the Uncle Phil that he mentioned the

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Speaker 9: other day and the pie of the face for the tournament,

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Speaker 9: depending on how Arizona or Connecticut do. I didn't know

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Speaker 9: if he'd want a part of that.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's Arizona the tournament I'm taking.

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Wow, undefeated.

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Speaker 2: You still don't believe in U of A, do you?

746
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Speaker 2: I know I want to, but you know how this

747
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Speaker 2: is when I start to fill out my bracket and

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Speaker 2: I look at Arizona and I go, I just go Chargers.

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Speaker 2: They are the Chargers of college college foot trip. I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. Ye the year you leave them out,

751
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Speaker 2: I know, I know they'll go to the final four.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Jim in Florida. Hi Jim, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Ben? Nice to talk to you. I just wanted to

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Speaker 10: comment on bo Jackson. If it wasn't the best, it

756
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Speaker 10: was one of the better interviews you've ever done, and

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Speaker 10: I would pause it. So Jackson saved somebody's life today.

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Speaker 2: You're probably right, Jim, and I hope he did. I

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Speaker 2: hope that people listen to that and go get tested.

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Speaker 2: And I said this to the Dan Nets yesterday we

761
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Speaker 2: did a little video, a public service announcement for prostate

762
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Speaker 2: cancer getting tested, and it's really easy to do it.

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Speaker 2: And if you get that opportunity, no not, if you

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Speaker 2: get it, make sure you get the opportunity to get tested.

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Speaker 2: That in colon cancer guys were stupid. We don't like

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Speaker 2: going to the doctor. Nobody likes going to the doctor.

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Speaker 2: But when you go there, and you can be healthier, smarter,

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Speaker 2: live longer than do it. And I'm very, very thankful

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Speaker 2: that both came on and shared his story because he

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Speaker 2: had prostate cancer three months ago. Mike and Wisconsin. Hi Mike,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Big?

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Hey Dan,

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Speaker 12: I have a Super Bowl trivia question if you're for

775
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 12: testing your knowledge? Oh okay, So, so this player he

776
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 12: had six hundred and two career rushing yards and ironically

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Speaker 12: he set and still holds the Super Bowl rushing record

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Speaker 12: with two hundred and four yards.

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Speaker 2: Was that Timmy Smith of Washington.

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Speaker 12: Jimmy Smith, Washington and Super Bowl twenty two. They routed

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Speaker 12: Fritzy Broncos for you.

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Speaker 6: We don't need to do that.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to go You gotta be specific with

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Speaker 2: the number of the team that routed the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 2: in Super Bowls.

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Speaker 13: Todd at number twenty two, running up and down the sideline,

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Speaker 13: not being able to catch Timmy Smith.

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Speaker 2: Was that the lily? That was Tony Lily?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right man, they took advantage.

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Speaker 5: We had a ten nothing lead in that game.

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Speaker 2: We we lose, I know, Setan. Would you give us

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Speaker 2: the final results to the poll question today, very very controversial.

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Speaker 3: Holy smokes, who should Tom Brady root for in the

795
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Shockingly, fifty six percent of the audience say

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Speaker 3: the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: How Tom got that one wrong?

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Speaker 3: And the biggest dog on the show today Bo Jackson,

799
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Speaker 3: Gerald McCoy, Andrew Luck or Peter Herbstreet Kirk's dog Bo

800
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Speaker 3: Jackson running away with that one, running away. The dog

801
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Speaker 3: is in second place, a comfortable second place.

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Speaker 2: That was a great That's a great looking dog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is if that is a good dog, the

804
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Speaker 3: very definition of a good dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no way my dog could have sat

806
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Speaker 2: there like Peter sat in his own chair. While Kirk

807
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Speaker 2: Kurbstreet sat here, my dog would be in my lap,

808
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: she'd be all over the place. So my dog, you know,

809
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: we're out here in San Francisco, be home man Cave,

810
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: and my dog has been going crazy because she didn't

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Speaker 2: get to go to work. So my wife drops my

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Speaker 2: dog off. Winnie is watching when Peter the Dog is

813
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Speaker 2: on TV, and she is going bonkers at the man Cave,

814
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Speaker 2: barking at the screen because she wants to protect Tyler.

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Speaker 2: That's love, yes, Uh.

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Speaker 13: And there's other dogs running around that, you know, so

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Speaker 13: there's more stimuli. And the dog was still Peter was

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Speaker 13: still quietly sitting there.

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Speaker 2: But you know what was great is the number of

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Speaker 2: our listeners, our viewers who send in pictures of their

821
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Speaker 2: dog watching Peter the Dog.

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Speaker 3: Dogs all over the place went crazy as soon as

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Speaker 3: they saw Peter.

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Speaker 2: Uh. But I haven't seen Bo. I'm trying to think

825
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: last time I saw Bo Jackson. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I've been more excited to talk to somebody because

827
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Speaker 2: it had been such a long period of time, and

828
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Speaker 2: we played golf together and I just remember I thought

829
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Speaker 2: he was going to hit at three hundred and fifty

830
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Speaker 2: yards and then I realized he couldn't out bow a

831
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Speaker 2: golf course like he couldn't. He said, if that ball

832
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Speaker 2: was moving ninety five miles an hour, I'd have a chance.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that it was just it kind of

834
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Speaker 2: sits there and mocks you. Just looks, you know, it's

835
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Speaker 2: looking right at you and bow. He just couldn't get

836
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Speaker 2: it right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, paul I just checked back the last time we

838
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Speaker 7: had Bo Jackson the show. He was a spring training

839
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Speaker 7: coach in Scottsdale two thousand and four and he was

840
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Speaker 7: with the White Sox and he joined the show.

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Speaker 2: And I love that. Andrew Luck came from Stanford. It's

842
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: forty five minutes, he said. But he wasn't selling a

843
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 2: product like everybody is normally selling a product. Lewis Riddick

844
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Speaker 2: just came over. You're not selling a product. They just

845
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Speaker 2: wanted to come in and talk, and that's that's a

846
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Speaker 2: lot of fun. But Andrew Luck coming in and being

847
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Speaker 2: a good sport, letting Paulie mimic him make fun of it,

848
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Speaker 2: and he took it. Good sport, fantastic impersonation.

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Speaker 6: I gotta give it to him.

850
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Speaker 4: Ah, I need some work, like Stanford football need some work.

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Speaker 5: We're getting there.

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Speaker 2: But we did find out that Seaton's been sitting on

853
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Speaker 2: a Tom Brady impersonation.

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Speaker 4: It's not so much that I've been sitting on it, Den.

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Speaker 4: I just think that hard work, you know, dedication is

856
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Speaker 4: really what's gotten me here to this point. That's why

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Speaker 4: I can't really pick who patriots. I don't have a

858
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: rooting interest in this. I wrote for hard work and

859
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: dedication because that's met here.

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Speaker 2: We're definitely not getting Tom Brady on your shit's gonna be,

861
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: We're more so not getting him out.

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00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe we can get Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't add the ad. Yeah, like freeze too emotional.

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Speaker 3: I just I just I don't even know why that's

865
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Speaker 3: the impression today, but I just threw that out there

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Speaker 3: because it's just too emotional about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were upset?

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Speaker 4: What is he doing? What is he doing?

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Speaker 2: We say that about Todd a lot. Okay, Todd, would

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Speaker 2: you learn today.

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 13: Bo Jackson would rather face a ninety five mile per

872
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 13: hour fastball that have to do with a golf ball

873
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 13: that just sits there on the tee Satan.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady's making more sense than Todd. Fritz Paul Andrew

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Speaker 4: Luck is a great great sport.

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Speaker 5: Marvin bo knows when payday is.

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Speaker 2: With quick pickup and drop off at thousands of locations

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