WEBVTT - Barça To Boston with Domè Guasch

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where I survived Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>survived Arizona, and just arrived in Los Angeles. Try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up, y'all. It's Monday, March third, and on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're skipping the news to get you right to my

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Boss Nation GM Dome guasc. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>building a club from scratch, getting into coaching at age fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and how to pitch players in the post draft era.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus should his son be afraid of the Green Monster?

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<v Speaker 1>I gave him a pop quiz to see how much

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<v Speaker 1>he knows about his new hometown. That interview's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. Joining us now, he's the first general

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<v Speaker 1>manager for NWSL expansion team Boss Nation Football Club. The

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<v Speaker 1>former head of management for women's football at Barcelona. He

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<v Speaker 1>also previously worked at Barca Academy Head of America, where

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<v Speaker 1>he led the strategy for recruitment and development across the continent.

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<v Speaker 1>His son's favorite player is Alexia Puteis. It's Dome, Guasc Dome,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the first representative for the Boston team we've had

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I have to start with the obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time fans heard from the Boston team reps

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<v Speaker 1>back in December, sounded like there might be some big

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<v Speaker 1>changes to the team name in branding. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any updates you can tell us.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I have some colleagues that are putting its tremendous

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<v Speaker 2>effort on that end, and I know sometime soon we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have some news to the public that's hopefully we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>everybody excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, we're excited. You spent thirteen years at FC Barcelona,

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<v Speaker 1>most recently as the head of management for women's football.

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<v Speaker 1>The Spanish women's national team won the last World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three. I imagine the women's game out

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<v Speaker 1>there is hotter than ever, so what a time for

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<v Speaker 1>you to leave what drew you to America in to

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<v Speaker 1>the NWSL.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, honestly, it's been always a leak that it has

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<v Speaker 2>stanned out to me being someone that like once I

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<v Speaker 2>got to grasp in the women's game, I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to dedicate my life to it right and regard

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<v Speaker 2>as much as it is growing in Spain and especially

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<v Speaker 2>being at Barcelona. I felt very fulfilled, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I had that desire of at some point

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<v Speaker 2>stepping away from from Barcelona, and yeah, well I'm born

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<v Speaker 2>and raised there, a fan for my entire life, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was sort of my dream job. At the same time, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an ambitious person. I like to grow, I like

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<v Speaker 2>to develop, and I wanted to do that right outside

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<v Speaker 2>of that safe umbrella that I had built with the

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen years plus being there. And in that regard, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it had to be the right step, right. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to just do it for any other job, and

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<v Speaker 2>it had to be the right one. And in that regard,

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<v Speaker 2>I always like in my mind, while I had no

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<v Speaker 2>timeline for that step, in my mind, the US obviously

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<v Speaker 2>always stood up high. As you mentioned before, I had

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<v Speaker 2>lived here before, so I had been here with my family.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, my son was born here in the States,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was like sort of a familiar environment for

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<v Speaker 2>us on one hand. On the other hand, it's where

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<v Speaker 2>women's football has always been big. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a lot of room to grow and progress, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the right combination of those two things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would say especially it's the fact that this is

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<v Speaker 2>across the board, right, It's across the entire league. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a league where, hey, across the board provides I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>the highest level of environment in the world, right, Like, well, yeah, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a greate that it's growing everywhere. It's great

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<v Speaker 2>that it's growing in Spain, my home country. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>a huge gap between certain clubs, right and Barcelona where

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<v Speaker 2>I was at, too many other clubs in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly, I don't think the league is doing enough

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<v Speaker 2>to improve that. While here we have a league that

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<v Speaker 2>it's hey, not only across the board, and the standards

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<v Speaker 2>are definitely higher across the board compared to the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, but there's still also the ambition of

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<v Speaker 2>this is not enough, right, we have to grow, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I see things that this is what excites me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we perhaps might be in a better place than other

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<v Speaker 2>clubs and other leagues. There's still a lot to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's the ambition to do that, right, So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what attracted me the most.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, as soon as you got into the women's game,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew that's what you wanted to stick with.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I feel it's still pure football, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still player center. While obviously we want. We wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it that way. And while we're excited about that

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<v Speaker 2>it's growing also as a business, it still keeps that pearness,

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<v Speaker 2>that that essence of the football because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those players, unfortunately when they were growing up and they

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<v Speaker 2>were fighting many things, they were doing it for the

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<v Speaker 2>love of the sport and not because they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>make a living, because they saw that very hard and

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<v Speaker 2>it would hardly happen. And like in living especially at Barcelona,

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<v Speaker 2>right in being surrounded by by those top players that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as their top players, at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just people that loves playing football, right, That's how

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<v Speaker 2>I would describe them, and and it still gives that

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<v Speaker 2>essence and obviously want to be part of that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how I like what makes me fulfilled, right, the part

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<v Speaker 2>that hey, we're doing something more. It's not just a business.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that we're gathering community, We're changing society. We're

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<v Speaker 2>like just providing a platform for many kids that would

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<v Speaker 2>have it very hard in life to to just have

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit better, right and building have it's

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<v Speaker 2>building behaviors and like creating role models for little gals

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<v Speaker 2>that in the past did not have that, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>all those things that excite me a lot make me

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<v Speaker 2>feel fulfilled, right and yeah, so that's that's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's it been like adapting to life in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I still I'm working on that. I've been here

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<v Speaker 2>for I would say two months ish, right, So still

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<v Speaker 2>again working working on that, especially obviously now being being

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people tells me like, you've come

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<v Speaker 2>in the worst moment. The way I see this, it

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<v Speaker 2>cannot get worse, right, so exctly getting better, getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>So also you just want to stay inside and work,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great. Just eyes on the prize, stay focused. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is very unfair to do to you after just

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<v Speaker 1>two months, But I'm going to give you a Boston

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<v Speaker 1>speed round and see if you know the answers to

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<v Speaker 1>these questions, and if not, these will be things for

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<v Speaker 1>you to work on because everyone's gonna expect you to

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<v Speaker 1>know them. Okay, what is the Green Monster?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm going to know the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the Green Monster is the big outfield wall

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<v Speaker 1>at Fenway Park where the Boston Red Sox play.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I've driven by a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to hit home run over the Green Monster? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the hick from French Lit?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I definitely need to improve my okay, my Boston knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is something that I will even put on

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<v Speaker 2>the team because they told me they had shown me

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<v Speaker 2>a few of this stuff. But the fact that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I'm getting ashamed.

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<v Speaker 1>So the hick from French Lick is Larry Bird. Have

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<v Speaker 1>they told you about him? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, Well of course I know Larry Bird Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>is a myth, a legend, definitely one that I know.

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<v Speaker 2>What about?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what sport the Boston Fleet play?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I've been to their yeah, this season up

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<v Speaker 2>in Lowell, so yeah, of course hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we got that when we love that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the women's sports one instead of the men's sports. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually love that on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the first thing I did like. Actually when

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<v Speaker 2>when I came to Boston was back in December when

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<v Speaker 2>they played their first game, right, So yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>up in Lowell watching them. Unfortunately they lost that one,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had a lot of fun and looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to go there with with my family.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual love it. Okay, two more, what's the special

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bowling that they do in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowling, that one I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's called candle pin bowling. In my opinion, it's

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<v Speaker 1>fore inferior, not as fun. But don't say that to

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<v Speaker 1>people in the Boston area. Okay, all right, just pretending

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<v Speaker 1>between yes. And then finally, what's your dunk in order?

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<v Speaker 2>My dunking order is I would say very European one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's express a shop. That's my my dunking order. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say to that. I've been to the original Dunkin

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<v Speaker 2>Dunnuts already. I live in Quincy, so that's where I'm moved,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's in town right there, and that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first things that I did. My son loves Dunnuts,

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<v Speaker 2>so there we go, in his case, and he loves

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<v Speaker 2>the show very ones.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. If you need to find a real

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop, feel free. Don't let those Boston folks make

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Dunkin every day. There's better coffee out there, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't judge all of American coffee by Duncan. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know people are gonna yell at me, but Duncan is

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<v Speaker 1>not my jam.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I know, Samu is one. Just to half ye

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<v Speaker 2>sunking coffee's right, which I have to agree to hair

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<v Speaker 2>on that web.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a smart person to make happy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. I'll deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll figure it out, you'll get used to it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get to how you started with soccer, because

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<v Speaker 1>I read that you not only were playing as a

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<v Speaker 1>young kid, but you started coaching at fourteen. How is

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<v Speaker 1>that not a typo? How did the coaching bug bite

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<v Speaker 1>you at fourteen years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it was I didn't even have that in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the thirteen year old that was only

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<v Speaker 2>focused on like hopefully of making a career in football.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, like at that time, I remember in my

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<v Speaker 2>club they changed my coach. Thinks we're not working out

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<v Speaker 2>that much with him. And in the interim time, the

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<v Speaker 2>director of the academy replaced the coach that we had,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was the kind of the team. I spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time with him on like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out, okay, what did not work with the old coach,

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<v Speaker 2>what should we do to arrange it? And then we

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<v Speaker 2>just kept this relationship where it was very close, very honest.

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<v Speaker 2>After every game we would speak about the game and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And one day he comes to me and says, hey, like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to be a coach? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never thought about it, right honestly, But he said like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you talk a lot about you. I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you like it a lot of the football part,

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<v Speaker 2>analyzing and what's going on. And you know, we got

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<v Speaker 2>this group of moms that want to bring their five

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<v Speaker 2>year olds, but we don't have a coach for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought that you could be a coach for

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<v Speaker 2>them because I think you can handle them, right, You're

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<v Speaker 2>mature enough to do that. And he said to me like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be by your side helping you out. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I started making I remember thirty years a

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<v Speaker 2>month doing that coaching them.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that for fourteen. What do you really need to buy?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a milkshake? And that's it? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was great. It was great. I'm and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember like that. That's sort of how the back like started.

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<v Speaker 2>I started liking it. And I remember when I turned sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the club faith for my first license, which would be

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<v Speaker 2>sort of now the with a zero license, and at

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<v Speaker 2>that time I was more serious about it, but still

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<v Speaker 2>probably wanted to still be you, meaning my pathway was journalism.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not where my focus had always been, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I went to college at first for But I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I had to do college for two like I

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<v Speaker 2>had to do journalism plus another.

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<v Speaker 1>Major subject.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, major in the college in the in the school

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<v Speaker 2>that I went to, and I chose politics, so I

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<v Speaker 2>would do morning politics and then I would do afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>evening journalism. The only issue was that I had a

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<v Speaker 2>team I was coaching, like coincide with the journalism classes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I would miss like I think it was every

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesdays and Thursdays. I would miss classes journalists to go

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<v Speaker 2>coach my team because I loved it. But I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it as a hobby, right. It was something that especially

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<v Speaker 2>like in Spain, you cannot unless you work for a

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<v Speaker 2>big club. When you're in the youth soccer. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>hobby where you make some extra but then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to find a real job, right, And my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>all into that, like, hey, you have to have a

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<v Speaker 2>real job. So I did that, and I remember, like

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<v Speaker 2>my clique moment was one day I met with a

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<v Speaker 2>professor who called me to his office and I had

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<v Speaker 2>never met with him because he only did one class

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesdays and I had never gone to those classes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so he told me, like he was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you had create college. But then I asked your

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<v Speaker 2>colleagues and they told me that no, like you're only

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<v Speaker 2>missing Mike classes and some others. Like he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to pass, and like, yeah, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>that I have this team that I'm committed to. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. I feel very responsible. I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have that commitment with the kids. I cannot miss

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<v Speaker 2>out on that. Like and he's like, yeah, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to pass. Like it's fine. And if next

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<v Speaker 2>year it coincides again with my kids coaching, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pass either.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so you just knew that soccer was like

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<v Speaker 1>where your heart was.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. And you know, he told me you should

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<v Speaker 2>think about what you want to do in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I did. In fact, I quit journalists, my

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<v Speaker 2>quit politics. I jumped into sports sciences against my dad's will,

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<v Speaker 2>just because at the time I wanted to be a coach, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which changed a lot throughout my career, and here I

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<v Speaker 2>am in another position. But yeah, it's been always in

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<v Speaker 2>my blood being always a fan, being always playing, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's great and around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kids at home, don't skip school. Try to find

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to do both. But also if you

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<v Speaker 1>do skip school, you might end up the GM of

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<v Speaker 1>NWSA teams. Just never know. We got to take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break more with Domao when we come back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about how it's been with this new

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<v Speaker 1>expansion Boston team. What does your day to day look

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<v Speaker 1>like when the team hasn't signed any players yet, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hit the field for another year. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you working on?

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<v Speaker 2>So Obviously, as I mentioned before, I've been here for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months. I would say my first month

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of planning, a lot of thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I want to spend my year on, what

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<v Speaker 2>do I have to prioritize at every moment of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>And while at the same time trying to learn about Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>about the culture. Obviously I had not done enough good

0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.200
<v Speaker 2>of a job we can tell by your survey before,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm glad at least I could answer the one

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<v Speaker 2>that was related to women's sports. I'm proud of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so it's just trying to immerse myself in

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston culture, get to know the people that's already

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<v Speaker 2>working in the club, like we're there, about building the relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>also with with the founders, getting more on the aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with with the vision and and and whatnot. So I

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<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of a lot of time on that

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<v Speaker 2>because I knew once I started the execution part, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I am nowadays. It's like just back

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<v Speaker 2>to back stuff right where I don't have much time

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<v Speaker 2>to think. The good thing is I have a roadmap

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel pretty comfortable with that I review every

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<v Speaker 2>single week. Okay, where I'm at, where should we be?

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously tweak that. So my time now spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on recruitment. Uh, and that means players, but also staff,

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<v Speaker 2>right because I think we have to build in even

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<v Speaker 2>bigger roster on the staff side, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people when they talk to me, they think that I

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<v Speaker 2>spent my day on players only, and yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a very important piece. But you've got to get a

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<v Speaker 2>coach correct.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting part of this too, because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure how aware you are of some of the issues

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<v Speaker 1>that NWSLF franchises have had in the past with their

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<v Speaker 1>decision making around coaching and personnel, and I wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>you've been told about that and how you are planning

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that NWSL Boston doesn't have the same issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, obviously that goes first and foremost. Do not give

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<v Speaker 2>power to one single person, right. That applies to myself,

0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.360
<v Speaker 2>that applies to the head coach, and that applies to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone in the organization. Right. And obviously building processes and

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<v Speaker 2>building a structure that is not based on one person

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<v Speaker 2>or even tool, that is a very big bax. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Then obviously picking the right ones, and to me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for the right people that hey, if they're very

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<v Speaker 2>a good professional, that's sort of a plas and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it is not right. That is the first filter, right, like, Okay,

0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.200
<v Speaker 2>what's this person about, what are the values of this person?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the vision of this person within the industry? And

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<v Speaker 2>then will then evaluate the professional side on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>which obviously is important because especially when we talk about

0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:25.200
<v Speaker 2>staff members, they have to provide the players with different

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.119
<v Speaker 2>resources and the expertise on different areas. But first and

0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:33.440
<v Speaker 2>foremost is okay, who's that person, right, and what are

0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the values, what's the vision? What is the driver of

0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that person, right, like what is she or he about?

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<v Speaker 2>And and that to me is very important. And then

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<v Speaker 2>obviously gathering not only obviously the basics that now the

0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.600
<v Speaker 2>league is mandating and with the CBA and whatnot, like

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<v Speaker 2>all the background checks, the education piece and all that part,

0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.960
<v Speaker 2>which obviously is essential and basic. But then at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, it's also of getting the references right right

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.480
<v Speaker 2>on everyone that we're bringing on board, like, Okay, they've

0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.600
<v Speaker 2>been working somewhere, so how is it working with this person?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you know, to me, whenever and sometimes might

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<v Speaker 2>be inferred to on people, but whenever there's a hint

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:22.640
<v Speaker 2>of something not smelling good, I stay away. Like, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter how much I like that person, how good of

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:31.240
<v Speaker 2>a professional that person is, that that is a very

0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.359
<v Speaker 2>basic and essential matter, right For sure, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be surrounded by people that we can trust, that we

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<v Speaker 2>can be comfortable with, that we can feel that we're family, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what we want to build here. So that

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<v Speaker 2>is how I'm approaching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you reached out to any other like gms or

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<v Speaker 1>owners or front office folks from existing teams, either for

0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, advice on this front or just tips and

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<v Speaker 1>best practices for how to run a team in this

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<v Speaker 1>league the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course, yeah, I've done that and thankfully,

0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously while working at Barcelona, I was able to develop

0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:12.320
<v Speaker 2>some relationships with some gms. I've developed some more relationships

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<v Speaker 2>now being here. We've even met I think in your

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 2>backyard in Chicago a few weeks back, and yeah, it's

0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it's with especially the ones that I had the previous relationship,

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.239
<v Speaker 2>because it was easier and it's also easier for them

0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.439
<v Speaker 2>to open up to me. And I've been talking to

0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.199
<v Speaker 2>them right like, hey, when you compare it, and some

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 2>of them also have experience in Europe, which was good

0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 2>for me, like to get there. Hey, this is one side.

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 2>This is the other side, the ups and downs, and

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, there are certain things that everybody might talk about.

0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 2>There are certain things that it's different depending on the

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 2>experience that each one of them has. But that is

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<v Speaker 2>very valuable to me, and honestly, that's where I spend

0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time, especially at the beginning when I

0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.080
<v Speaker 2>mentioned getting immersed right in the in the culture, and

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.120
<v Speaker 2>that is something that I'm spending a lot of time too,

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 2>right like, whenever I can been talking to a few

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 2>former players as well that have been in the league,

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 2>just to know, okay, like what was your experience and

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to get to know, okay, well we're the best practices,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the not good practices? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we stay away from that? Because I think now,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the new CBA, one one very big piece

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 2>is Okay, what environment are we creating for the players? Right?

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Because in a league where all more or less will

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.120
<v Speaker 2>pay similar amounts because we all have the same salary cap,

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 2>will be all about okay, what's the environment? Like? Right?

0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 2>This is a good thing that coming out of the

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 2>CBA because now everybody, everybody has to provide the best

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>environment to be the most shiny thing for that player

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that's out of contract say, Okay, I want to go there,

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 2>not because they're paying me more, because it's more or

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 2>less the same thing. I want to go there because

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.959
<v Speaker 2>that's the best environment I can be in.

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's particularly interesting for you because you're going to

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 1>be the very first GM that has to fill a

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.919
<v Speaker 1>whole roster with no college draft, no expansion draft. Like

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for you, it's just vibes, just vibes, you know. So

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>what's the pitch to players? How do you build a

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<v Speaker 1>team from scratch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's obviously not an easy job. And obviously when

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I was in the process right of evaluating the move

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and all that, that was when actually I know the

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 2>team was discussing that with the league, like, Okay, what

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.639
<v Speaker 2>acids do we have when we compare them to the

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:43.119
<v Speaker 2>last expansions, right with Bay for example, which I spoke

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot to their GM there when when they did that,

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 2>But that was very different, right they had, as you mentioned,

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.639
<v Speaker 2>an expansion draft. They had the college draft, and that

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of made things a little easier in the sense

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 2>that they can just go or they have the leverage

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 2>to either nego shape for protection with other clubs, or

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 2>they can just go and say, Okay, you're unfrotacted, You're

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>coming to me. You have no say in this, right.

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>But the way I say it, obviously, on one hand

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a bigger challenge, which I said before I love.

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>But on the other hand, for me, it also opens

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 2>up Okay, yeah, we have to dedicate more resources in

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 2>the recruitment site because now it's all sort of the

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 2>entire world is open to us, and we have to

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<v Speaker 2>now filter that down to the ones that are interesting

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 2>to us. That's why we are bringing a director of

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:38.439
<v Speaker 2>recruitment and we're building sort of a recruitment team just

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 2>because obviously with the changes in the CBA now, it's

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 2>sort of like, hey, if you want to do a

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>good job at recruitment, and me as a GM I

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 2>mentioned before, I have a very big job in building

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.360
<v Speaker 2>an entire team, not only on the field but outside

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>of it, and unless, like we have people that are

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 2>looking into that and spending the time into that, I'm

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 2>not going to be able to do a good job

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 2>at picking the right players. Right. So, so to me

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that that is a very important piece. That's the first

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:11.959
<v Speaker 2>piece that actually I'm hiring within the sporting structure because

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 2>of that, right because I wants have the time to

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 2>put the time to make those evaluations and then while

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I build the rest of the structure, that will be

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 2>the reason why hopefully players want to want to come here, right,

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Not because Boston is a cool city, which it is,

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 2>right and it's attractive. It was attractive to me when

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I like looking at it from the outside, not only

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 2>for the vision that we have for the project, not

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 2>only for the stadium that we'll have inside the city

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and will be a very cool experience to play in,

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>but because hey, we'll provide a platform that hey, it's

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>not only a safe environment, which hopefully at some point

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that's something that we can take for granted and even

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 2>talk about. Right, and we're only talking about, Okay, how

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 2>much better am I going to get as a player?

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>For sure?

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>How am I going to get treated if if I

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>get injured? What's the care that you provide?

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, how am I going to How are we

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 2>going to prevent that I get injured? Right? How are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to help me stay in the game for

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<v Speaker 2>a longer time? Right as a player where instead of

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<v Speaker 2>having to retire it at a futty something I can

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<v Speaker 2>be at four, that can be at something.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, sounds like you have been talking to say I'm us,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that that's something that's really important for She

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<v Speaker 1>came on our show and talked about like, how can

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<v Speaker 1>there be more intention around keeping players in the game

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<v Speaker 1>longer because you're more thoughtful about injuries and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that director of Recruitment, and we heard that

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<v Speaker 1>you have some news to share about that search. So

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<v Speaker 1>what can you tell us?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're very happy to tell you that we're

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<v Speaker 2>bringing Edward Gallagher from Brighton in the WSL League. With

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<v Speaker 2>it an extensive search and I have to praise Bloom

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Sports for that too. They helped us with with this process.

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<v Speaker 2>They were very helpful, very thoughtful, very detail oriented, and

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<v Speaker 2>they brought very strong candidates actually, so it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was not an easy an easy process in the sense that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a few candidates, different profiles still right where

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you're not comparing apples to apples, but it's one

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<v Speaker 2>profile that can bring something pretty unique and then another

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<v Speaker 2>very strong profile that brings something different. But yeah, we

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>ended up going with with Edward which he's been this

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>he's been doing this job for for Brighton in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>He also worked for London City leon Esses. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 2>he did some work also at the national team level,

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<v Speaker 2>so and he's been in the game for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had the chance to work with him while

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<v Speaker 2>I was at Barcelona and he was at Brighton and

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<v Speaker 2>then obviously that was a very brief work that we did,

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<v Speaker 2>so got did not get to know him really through that,

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<v Speaker 2>but the experience was good. The feeling, like you know,

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned before, the personal feeling they through the negotiation,

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 2>you can truly feel and grasp that, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>already a positive, but it was mainly through this process

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 2>he truly showed to be like that person that thinks

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<v Speaker 2>about it from a three sixty perspective, right, Like the

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<v Speaker 2>recruitment piece, so it's not only about okay, recruiting a

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<v Speaker 2>good player for our team, is like, okay, what do

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 2>we want to build as a team, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>want to play? What pieces that we're being But then

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<v Speaker 2>it's not only about the football side of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>also okay, what type of personalities are we bringing in? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we find out about that? How do we

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<v Speaker 2>present the project? And then he was pretty unique. On

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<v Speaker 2>was also as part of the recruitment role, including the

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>onboarding process and the adaptation process, right, where a lot

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 2>of times we had to think, hey, kind of player

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<v Speaker 2>done and that's it. And having been at Barcelona, that

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>was one of the things that a lot of times

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 2>we struggled the most, Like we brought these amazing players,

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>but then obviously they needed their time to adapt and

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it was like very different needs. Right, So approaching it

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 2>from that perspective, studying that adaptation early. Right, So hey,

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>now let's say in July we start negotiating four players

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>that will be free in December, and we get to

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 2>sign someone early, why don't we start already right like

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>that process of adapting and all that like, and his

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<v Speaker 2>built to this and the work he's done at Brighton

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<v Speaker 2>has been impressive and we're very happy to handle with

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<v Speaker 2>him here.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds like such a fascinating group of people to

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<v Speaker 1>work without in Boston. Going to be really cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see what you bring over from Spanish leagues and Spanish culture,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what he brings over from the WSL, and how that

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>all mixes with what we have here in the States.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for coming on to chat with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for giving us a little peek into

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>this team that we're also excited to see get up

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<v Speaker 1>and running. I'll really appreciate the time, Sah.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for having me. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure and it felt very short. Actually, next time I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have answers to the your next test.

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<v Speaker 1>On Boston perfect. I'll start writing the questions right. Thank you.

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