1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Monkeys are thoughts. Monkeys are thoughts. I think objectively, monkeys 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: are thoughts. Everybody can agree with that. This isn't this 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: look you you played politics on a different episode. You 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Republicans, Democrats, We're not here to 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: draw a line anymore. We can all agree monkeys are thoughts. 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: That's clear. That's not even up for the bag. That's 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: regardless of how you feel about age. Come on, look 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: wherever it comes from, monkeys are thoughts. Racist, also mostly 9 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: money stuff. I can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep, there 10 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to 11 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast 12 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black 13 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove that Morgan 14 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: Freeman's hoop ear ring was made from some of the 15 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: last remaining medals produced at the start of the Industrial Revolution. 16 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: They don't make coop ear rings like that anymore, no sir. 17 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: That type of metal is rare, and only a person 18 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: as old and as odd as Morgan Freeman could even 19 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: still possess it. That's the conspiracy theory. I'm spreading this week, 20 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: i'm your host, you're you're now co host. I am 21 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: a co host now because I am joined today by 22 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: by my co host, a man who has been on 23 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: the podcast before. So funny, so talented, but goddamnit that 24 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: we added. We're adding this motherfucker and he's wearing purple, 25 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: just like me. It was. It's serendipitous than a bit. 26 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great time. Give it up for 27 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: for my co host, Mr David Boy. But I couldn't 28 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: think what I wanted to come in with a good 29 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: sound to like start off this partnership. I think it 30 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: took yourself long to make the decision. Yeah, what the 31 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: sound was gonna be. I was having a real because 32 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want it. First in my head, I was like, 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: more fire that's not the right one. Now, that's not 34 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: you're not a more fireman. And I know I wanted 35 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: in my heart that's well, we gotta work on your 36 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: sounds already. You're letting the listeners down with these sounds 37 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: that you've been on what for eight seconds, and the 38 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: sounds are failing hard. It's only up here from here though, 39 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean. We just started the 40 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: bottom and that's how I do it. Im. This is 41 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: we've been we've been planning this for a little while now. 42 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: This is very exciting. I'm glad you're joining joining the pot. Yeah, 43 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love doing minimal 44 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: research and having maximum opinions. Yeah, I really, I'm really 45 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: going to be looking to you for color commentary on 46 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: on a lot of things that probably don't require color. 47 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that's what that's that's really where I get. 48 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: That's where I shine. Don't worry about the noises. My 49 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: commentary is the noises. I'll take care of the noises 50 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: and now on I'll be the noise man. You'll be 51 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: color comments. I'm not going to try perfect well, I don't. 52 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't want us to dilly or daly. Because the 53 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory you and I decided was worth digging into 54 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: this week, and it's it's one that I feel like 55 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I have I have circled a few times, but never 56 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: fully tapped into. But we said, my mama told me, 57 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: HfV came from human who has sex with a monkey. Man. 58 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Tell me everything you know about about this subject. I mean, 59 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: this one, this one is personal because I'm gonna say 60 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: it I'm you know as hell and uh, you know, 61 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: early nineties there's a lot of a lot of African 62 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: slander going around by way of terms like booty scratcher 63 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: and things like that, and then this ship came up, 64 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: and you had to It came up so often people like, oh, 65 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: you're from Africa. I heard they fuck monkeys over there. Yeah, 66 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Like we're just like it's a free for all. You're 67 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: just you guys are just running around snatching up monkeys 68 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: out of trees and fun. Because also, if we were 69 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: sucking all the animals, you don't think so cooler ship 70 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: would have came out than AIDS. And that's not I 71 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: don't we didn't do that, But I'm saying like, like 72 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: there were other cool things would happen besides a A right, 73 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: I mean objectively what we're talking about AIDS. There was 74 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: also Studio fifty four with that era of sex and sexuality, right, so, 75 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: and who are they to be monkey Studio fifty four 76 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: If y'all are sucking the ship out of them and 77 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: to that extreme, there would just be a lot of 78 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: other crazy cool ship going on. Some kind of hybrid 79 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: tiger babies we would have had. Are there tigers and 80 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's correct. Some kind of crazy panther 81 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: people race like, OK, you got it, like a lot 82 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: of other things besides just aids, right, They're they're only 83 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: picking at I love that this is the defense you have. 84 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: You guys are only picking at the bad stuff that 85 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: came out of sucking those monkeys. I'm not saying we 86 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: fucked monkeys. I'm saying if we were sucking monkeys, then 87 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: then then we were sucking everything and there would be 88 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: a host of aids like I like virs, well, that's 89 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: I like. I like this and because I don't think 90 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I had ever considered the possibility. And maybe this is 91 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: my own, my own prejudgment, right, If I'm being honest 92 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: with you, I'm a former version of myself was calling 93 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Nigga's African booty scratchers and it was huge. I I 94 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: brame John Singleton. Oh yeah, he played his part. That 95 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: was a major blow to the African community. That was huge. 96 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: That was huge that. I love the idea of some 97 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: sort of like Council of African Nations coming together and 98 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: being furious at John Singleton for for making you all 99 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: the punchline in in his movies. One scene ruined most 100 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: of my elementary school. Jesus Christ, this is a big deal. 101 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: But to that point, I it had never even occurred 102 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: to me that monkeys would be the stopping or not 103 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: be the stopping point. Rather that like for me, it 104 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh you I've heard y'all fuck monkeys and 105 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: stop in stop. I never advanced it beyond that. But 106 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: to your point, if you're sucking a monkey, you probably 107 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: could sucking more sleek, sexy animal too, far more majestic 108 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: beings on the African plains. Have you seen monkeys the 109 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: crass yead? No, they're they're not classy animals, no vulgar, 110 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: i'd say, to be honest. But you've seen like a giraffe, Yeah, 111 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, there's like there's just like a lot. 112 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: You've seen a gazelle like, but monkeys, that's the ones. 113 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that I remember from going on 114 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: to the Fari, I went like whatever it was three 115 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: years ago, and one of the things I remember is 116 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: as we were driving, we saw a giraffe who was 117 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: like drinking water. And one of the things they do, 118 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: they'll like dip their head and down to whatever they're 119 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: they're drinking and then they'll like lift their necks up 120 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: and pray the water over themselves, almost like a sexy fountain. 121 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: It's like, how could you watch a giraffe do that 122 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: and not be like, I funk the ship out that giraffe. 123 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, they got that big old black tongue. I 124 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: didn't put a color on it. I don't know what 125 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: the color does, but I do know that to be 126 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: a detail. I just yeah, there's there's just there's there's 127 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: far as I've never seen a giraffe in the wild 128 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: because I've only been to the cities in Africa, but yeah, 129 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: there was just I just feel like if that was 130 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: the case, there's so much better animals to now. I 131 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: do remember that part of the reason and the claim 132 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: at least that people were sucking monkeys is because and 133 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: part of the reason that HIV was a product of 134 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: us fucking monkeys was because that monkeys are so close 135 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: to human beings that the genetic closeness is part of 136 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: the reasoning for the birth of the disease in the 137 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: first place, which in retrospect sort of doesn't quite make sense. 138 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine that like we'd get diseases from anything 139 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: we put our dick in and the genetics isn't the 140 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: part that makes it disease worthy? Well you know what? Okay, 141 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: So I did very minimal research, of course, is what 142 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: I found out is that there is because so there's 143 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: there's there's three kinds of it. There's HIV, which is 144 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: just human immuno deficiency virus, right, but then there's also 145 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: very similar s i V simon immuno deficiency virus. Right, 146 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: that's the monkeys, that's monkeys, but then there's also fi V. 147 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: So how come all these old dusty white diaches with cats. 148 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Nobody's worried about what that was? You know what I mean? 149 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: See hold on, that's how they get you, because that's 150 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: that's the scam that was run on you and other 151 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: African children throughout your upbringing. Because I'm seeing it now 152 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: because there's there's very clearly this other form of immuno 153 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: deficiency virus sitting there that no one's ever accused anyone. 154 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: And white people love cats. They love their mouths, yeah, 155 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: and their cat their tongues ain't even nice. They got 156 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: them paper tones, they got growth, and they let them 157 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: poop in their houses. That's that's also fat that's fact. 158 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: He draw the party lines where you will, it won't 159 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: be about cats pooping in white people's houses. Listen here, 160 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: here's what I love. Freedom, all right, that's what I 161 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: worry about. Party locks. But to that point, no one's 162 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: ever accused anyone of fucking their cat, and that being 163 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: the potential birth of AIDS up. So so ultimately, somebody 164 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: is taking advantage of the propaganda machine to make this 165 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: a African problem, when in fact it could very well 166 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: be a Scandinavian problem, you know what I mean, It 167 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: could be one of whatever, one of these white places 168 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: where cats roam freely and do catship. And I think 169 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of kinds of cats, right, bobcats 170 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: links that's a snow cat, right, snow leopard. I'm pretty 171 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: sure that's one of them. I'm eating up. I'm eating up. 172 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm eating up. Give me some runway. I'm just saying, like, 173 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: why does it? Why was it Africa? Why why did 174 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: you have to have come from Africa? I do think, 175 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's you're really getting on a train here, 176 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: because I do think ultimately it points to the gross 177 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: correlation that happened with AIDS and HIV and black people. 178 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: The very I would argue intentional correlation that happened there, 179 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: which I'd be remiss if I didn't admit that, like 180 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: our population suffered greatly from you know, HIV and all 181 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: the other ship. But it isn't because we invented the motherfucker. 182 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: It's simply because of from all the stuff, from all 183 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: the stuff. We also got COVID. Nobody was like it's 184 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: a black thing. No. In fact, if I remember correctly, 185 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: we were real proud not to have had it for 186 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: a little while. And I definitely tweeted about that. I 187 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: definitely tweeted that a bunch of times, like just some 188 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: kind of like third world immunity. Take that ship back 189 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: to England. It was early pandemic. I've since cut my 190 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: Twitter off, I understand. Sure. I hope that was the 191 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: sole reason you had to cancel your Twitter missing. I 192 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: went too hard on black people not be able to 193 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: get COVID. I gotta I gotta just shut this ship down. Yeah, 194 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: I really, because I had to stand by during the 195 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: whole of Bola things. So I was like, we got 196 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: one and then it was a misstep on look, we 197 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: all we all were here for the first like three 198 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: weeks where no black people were confirmed to have had COVID, 199 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: and we truly thought that this was God coming back 200 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: to the earth to finally make white people reap what 201 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: they said. We all remember this, What a big month 202 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: that was. We're not going to work and we're not 203 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: getting sick. Uh. Dog I was. I was having a 204 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: goddamn field day and then that one, that first black 205 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: person showed up sick and it was like, God damn it. Yeah, 206 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: that guy's gonna go down in history because that was 207 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: a big letdown. It it hurt a lot of people. 208 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: That was a big letdown. I would say him, that person, 209 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: and I assume it's a man. I just have to 210 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: assume that that a man was the first one to 211 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: get sick from a black man was the first one 212 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: of black people to get sick from COVID. I I 213 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: have to assume that, Yeah, it's just I have to 214 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: assume that he's uh, that he survived it and just 215 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: has to live with this feeling for forever. I think, yeah, yeah, 216 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I was like, I was all 217 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: into I was like, I followed dr Umar on Twitter. 218 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's happening. You're not a foolish man. 219 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: This is like real, Yeah, I'm investing in your schools. Yeah, 220 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: somebody call. Let me get that doctor Sebby book, like 221 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: it could all happen. Maybe you did gear cancer. I 222 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: don't know, man, We're not going to get the sickness 223 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: that you know what elsie. Dr Sebby said that he 224 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: was carrying was was HIV. Thought he could he could 225 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: help around with HIV by drinking mineral water. All I'm 226 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: saying is I've had a lot of mineral waters. I've 227 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: never had HIV. Hey, And that's pretty fucking cool if 228 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: you asked me, that's fucking huge, if you asked me. 229 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if the correlation is perfect, but it 230 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: makes sense on my end. That's all that matters. All Right, 231 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more 232 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: David Bory more, my mama told me. And we are back. Yeah, 233 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: we're back here with more David Bory, our new co host. 234 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: And my mama told me. We're still talking about the 235 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: possibility that AIDS HIV was born from a human, a 236 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: man fucking a female monkey. Had you read or had 237 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: you heard and this this will help guide us into 238 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: this research. I think pretty seamlessly had you heard specifically 239 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: that it was a man who sucked a monkey. Was 240 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: there any any part of you that considered it could 241 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: have been a lady who took advantage of a nice 242 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: monkey man. I've never thought that a woman had sex 243 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: with ann any animal ever, not willingly. No, Oh fuck, 244 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: all right, I just know it's never It's just my brain, 245 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy? And now this says a lot 246 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: about me. I don't know what this says, but when 247 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: you say this, in my head, I always assumed that 248 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: it was a dude having sex with a boy monkey. 249 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why, and I don't know whoa. I 250 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: don't know what to make of that. Whoa? You know what? 251 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: You know what that feels like? And I don't mean 252 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: this in a judgmental way, but it does feel honest? 253 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Is that that almost feels like it's cooked in with 254 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: a type of of almost cross pollination of both the 255 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: hatred that they put onto you and then the like 256 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: the homophobia that was circulating alongside HIV very African hyeah. 257 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know to homophobia? Did you not? 258 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: We were we were pretty early early adopted. No, I know. 259 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: Now it's so crazy because I've never even said that, like, 260 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I never realized that that was the case, But when 261 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I say it out loud, I don't know why. I 262 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that it it much matters, 263 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: right like if you always assume it was a dude, 264 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: a man having sex with a female monkey. I don't 265 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: know that I ever thought about the gender of the monkey. 266 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: I think I always in the same way that you 267 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: look at somebody's like dog, and you're not like always 268 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: thinking like that's a girl dog. You're just like, hey, 269 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: look at that dog. Dog. It's sort of like it 270 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: was just a monkey being a monkey, And uh, it wasn't, 271 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest. It wasn't until I was researching 272 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: this ship that they were very specific about being a 273 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: female monkey that I started to feel like, okay that 274 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: I guess it's a heteronormative relationship happening between these animals. 275 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: I guess. Though. Also, if you're if you were on 276 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: the cross species lines, head roll home. We're already, you know, 277 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, we're already over here. I'm just trying to 278 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: suck a monkey. Yeah, I'm whatever, man, I'm already. You're 279 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: not supposed to be over here anyways. I don't think 280 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: that anybody's gonna be like, oh, but it was a 281 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: girl monkey, so he can still you know, nobody's like 282 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: seduced the monkey. And it it was like, what the fund 283 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: get off me? I didn't know you was a boy. 284 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: That's gay. I know that's gay as fuck. Dog. I 285 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: thought you was a girl monkey. I can't tell the 286 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: difference between boys and girls monkey, not visually. No, and 287 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: uh in in the reading that I did, apparently monkey penises, specifically, 288 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: like guerrilla and chimpanzee penises don't often exceed like an 289 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: inch to an inch and a half, so you know, 290 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: it's more like a button than it is. Ah, that's 291 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: funny because that changes a lot of my sexton game 292 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: and be just a lot of Really gorillas have small penises, Yeah, 293 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: gorillas are not. Uh in terms of the ratio to 294 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: their body, gorillas have a very small penis. Did you 295 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: know that before this? You know why I knew that 296 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: is because I'm always looking at them gorilla dicks, you 297 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I knew that because Bruno Mars 298 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: had that song where he talked about fucking like a gorilla, 299 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it was on his second album not a 300 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: particularly well were received album, which is why he leaned 301 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: in so hard on making seventies and eighties music. Instead, 302 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: he had a second album. You think he just skipped 303 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: to do the first thing. Yeah, I don't know what 304 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: the middle was. So Bruno Mars has that uh, that 305 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: gorilla fucking song and his ship and then Jenny's a 306 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Greeno a friend who I think you. You know, Jenny 307 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: has had a joke years ago about the absurdity of 308 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Bruno Mars fucking like a gorilla given the small penis 309 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: of a gorilla. Okay, first of all, sounds like that 310 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: joke is very funny. Sounds like that album is pretty bad. 311 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: I'd say this if you funk with Bruno, it's a 312 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: it's a Bruno album. Ain't no complaints on my ends. 313 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't give a ship when anybody says 314 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I like that young man. So I'm cool with it. Now. 315 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: When people go, hey, this is when he was making 316 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: as music, I don't argue with them. I'm not defending 317 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: the work. It's that's just my boy. I know. I listen, 318 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: I bought the second Criss Cross album, so I'm not 319 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: here to talk to you crazy. You mean, when they 320 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: were like old and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh fuck, 321 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: you were really invested. I was a big fan. Yeah, 322 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: God damn, how did that work out? A the one died, 323 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: so you know, there wasn't a third album. They didn't 324 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: have started to Mega third. I think he was sick. 325 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't even like A. It wasn't like I think 326 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: he was sick. And yeah, and it was not a 327 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: rap issue at all. They weren't in the streets. He 328 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: truly died of some sort of like health. You know, 329 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: I paying attention to fuck All right, Well, now we 330 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: gotta transfer into another euno deficiency conversation. So to your 331 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: original point, which I think is a very valid one, 332 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: there are other types of immuno deficiency viruses. The Simian 333 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: immuno deficiency virus is, in fact the one that we 334 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: believe eve that scientists believe the human of meno deficiency 335 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: virus was derived from. They pretty much completely discount feline 336 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: in meno deficiency virus. And part of the reason they 337 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: do that is they claim, and you ain't got a 338 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: dress the White Man if you don't want to, but 339 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: they claim that there's no ability to transfer cat aids 340 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: to human beings convenient like I don't. I don't understand 341 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: the proof. I mean, like I hear what you're saying. 342 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm just it feels like I don't know why that 343 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: would be the case, right, Why is this this special 344 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: aide so different than all the other right now? I 345 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: feel you? And also cats not I hate that. I 346 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: know so much about animal penises, but cats have those 347 00:22:52,080 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: uh those no duck dix, so duck dick. Sorry, yeah, 348 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: and the duck vagina is in a weird like curled 349 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: kirk screw thing too, so it's like basically like following 350 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: a maze up in there, whereas cat penises are like pronged, 351 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: so they like, uh they basically are are built in 352 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: a way that once they go in, they like kind 353 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: of snap in the place and and lock the cat 354 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: into so they can't run away and ship. Hold on, 355 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: that's how they get you for real, You're going to jail, 356 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: my man. But uh So to the the bigger question 357 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: of it potentially coming from monkeys, And this is something 358 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: that I didn't realize is that when we're saying monkeys, 359 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: that in fact is correct. The Semion immuno deficiency virus 360 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: is believed to have been derived from monkeys and not chimps, 361 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: who I had long believed to be the culprit. Chimps 362 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: are apes where oh you can't suck a chimp though, 363 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: Yeah you know that's not who you thought who you 364 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: thought of when they were fucking No. Chimpanzees will kill you. 365 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: They are so strong, like there's not even like a situation. 366 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: I think that you could finesse. Wow, this is a 367 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: completely different interpretation than I had. I always had a 368 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: chimp in my head the entire Oh, but I have 369 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: a I have a believe it or not, I have 370 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: a crazy chimpanzee story. Okay, I'm listening. I was, I'm excited. 371 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: What a sentence. Yeah, no, this is this is wild 372 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: and you can look it out. You can totally cross references. 373 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: I was at a chimpanzee reserve and Sirele on rest 374 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: of Africa, just like hanging out or whatever, and there 375 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: was just one chimpanzee and he was so angry, like 376 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: we were like because it's like it's like a preserve, 377 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like a zoo. So we're behind 378 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: the fence looking at him and he's like taking these 379 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: giant box and throwing up up at us, like big, 380 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: huge rocks and we had to like duck undercover because 381 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: he was like trying to hurt his really bad. His 382 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: name was Bruno, and I remember it was like, man, 383 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: that was fucking crazy, right, And that's really a weird 384 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't even because of the Mars thing. That's just 385 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: that's just so his name was Bruno, and I was 386 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: always like, yo, that's so crazy, and me and my 387 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: mom would talk about it sometimes we're like, that is 388 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: sucking nuts. Years later, I met my buddies house in 389 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: Colorado and we're watching that show I Shouldn't Be Alive, 390 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: you know that show, YEA, and they tell a story 391 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: about these guys. Bruno got out and ripped off like 392 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: three guys arms like a face, like killed a bunch 393 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: of dudes. Fuck at that, the same thing, the whole 394 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: the same ship. Fuck yeah. So that's so I've always 395 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: known you couldn't suck at him since four probably it 396 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: was it's like, oh boy, just in case y'all are like, yo, 397 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: Bruno was canceled enough for in case this comedy tour 398 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: comes to their city. I just don't want you, guys, 399 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: when you cross cross reference, I want you to understand. Wait, so, 400 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: so how the fund. Did they let Bruno out? How 401 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: did he get out of it? I think he got out. 402 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: I think he got I don't quite remember that episode 403 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: very well because it was because when I watched it 404 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: and I had to call my mom and was like, yo, 405 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, So I've always known you can't really 406 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: fun with chimps like that. So here's here's why I 407 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: always pictured the chimp. And I'm gonna follow this by 408 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: asking you what monkey did you have in mind? But 409 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: but I did. I thought it was a chimp, just 410 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: because of how often they have been used for films 411 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: for television. I've watched dust Dunston checks in too many 412 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: times not to think that, Like, then, you can't train 413 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: a monkey to to suck a dick, you know what 414 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: I mean? Like it's that movie was about, not what 415 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: it was about, but there were some undertones pants on, No, 416 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: he's a goddamn bell hop all of a sudden, it's 417 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: it's got weird vibes. And I'll be honest, they taught 418 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: him to do so many human things that it feels 419 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: like it implies anything is possible if you put your 420 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: mind to it. Hence they you fucked a chimp. And 421 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: there were no other chimps around, so sexually he would 422 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: get confused. Right, that's true. And now even as we're 423 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: saying it, I'm starting to question if Dunston checks In 424 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: was even a chimp. I actually think, if I'm being honest, 425 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: Dunston checks In, and I'm looking it up right now, 426 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: I believe Dunston checks In might have been an orangutang, 427 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: which makes this entire argument invalid. Well, here's my thing 428 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: that I've always put. Chimps and apes to me, are 429 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: different than monkeys. I always think the monkeys is like 430 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: little like with long tails and like because and freaks 431 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: in cerrely on. There's like a ton of monkeys everywhere, 432 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: but they're like little you know what they compact, right, 433 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: That's what I always thought about. Like a monkey. I 434 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: never thought that you could have sex with like a gorilla. 435 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: They're so strong, they're so so strong. So were you 436 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: thinking of like just like a somebody sucked a spider monkey, 437 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: or well bigger than a spider monkey or right, but 438 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: like like these monkeys, I don't like equating it in human. 439 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: These monkeys are like the size of like a like 440 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: a like a five year old. Okay, so it's not 441 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: like it's like, you know, it's big enough to do, 442 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: but it's not like, yeah, I never but like chimps 443 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: and apes is like and orang of tangs, and like 444 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: baboons is over here. I got that's too big for 445 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: a human to be able to pull off what it. 446 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: I got you, I don't think you could do it. Okay, Well, 447 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: I think your logic is sound, because it turns out 448 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: that chimps and the other apes actually acquired s i V. 449 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: From monkeys, and again not from sucking them apparently, but 450 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: from eating them occasionally. Apparently chimps will eat other will 451 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: eat monkeys, and then the blood and the sort of 452 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: like raw meat ultimately led to the transference of of 453 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: this disease into their community. Okay, that makes sense to me. 454 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: So now we're trying to figure out is how did 455 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: it get from them to us? This and that's the 456 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: big question, right Unless it got from the monkeys to us, well, 457 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: that's that's also on the table. It could could potentially 458 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: come from chimps, it could come from monkeys. But now 459 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: we at least have more players on the field of 460 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: potential infect doors in this situation, us being the infectees, 461 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: although by all accounts. Whatever we're doing to these animals, 462 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: we did we did something we didn't. Yeah, it's not 463 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: like they we were just chilling and then suddenly that 464 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: does these found us. We we did something that we 465 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: got in there. Here's my other question. Aren't there chimpanzees 466 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: and monkeys? They're not just in Africa? Right, There's some 467 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: in Asia. Uh, there are absolutely types of monkeys that 468 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: exist in Asia and parts of like, yes, they exist everywhere. 469 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that chimps and gorillas specifically. I I 470 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: that I can't say for sure, but I do know 471 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: there's types of apes and monkeys all over the world 472 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Okay, why did I think there were guerrillas 473 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: in Japan? There are I don't think any guerrillas in Japan, 474 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: but I could be wrong about there. There is a 475 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: breed of monkeys that exists in Japan, and weirdly enough, 476 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: they come up a little bit in this research. Because 477 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I to your your next question, I asked myself, is 478 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: it possible for a person to have sex with a monkey? 479 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: And there's this website, Cora. I don't know how much 480 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: time you spend on Cora. Oh yeah, yeah, I've been on. 481 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: It's not a good website. I was worried what you said, 482 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: there's a website, and then you're asked, oh, that it's 483 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: does a website. That's like, yep, this is how you 484 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: do it. If you try to do up, it's not 485 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: an easy thing to type into your Google search. No, no, 486 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: they'll catch you immediately. Yeah, it feels like I'm going 487 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: to get in a lot of trouble for having typed it. 488 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: But I did type it, and Core basically it came 489 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: back with a bunch of responses. Some of the folks 490 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: who asked, because I'm reading someone else's question, I wouldn't 491 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: dare bring it to Core. But they said there were 492 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: some that were very outraged that this person for even asking, 493 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: suggesting that he in fact was a monkey fucker. I 494 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't like that. You gotta let 495 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: people ask questions. That and I that was my feeling 496 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: on it too, is like, come on, dog, this motherfucker's 497 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: curious that on me. He's a bad guy. He's just 498 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure some sh it out. Yeah, if I 499 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: enacted everything I Google searched, I would have made gumbo 500 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: from scratch last week. And I, as some of you 501 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: didn't did not so, so some people were outraged. Some 502 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: people basically answered the question with a little bit too 503 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: much sincerity that almost felt like they were in fact 504 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: the monkey fuckers, you know what I mean, like they 505 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: they were sort of like, well, not legally, but yeah, 506 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: it's absolutely possible and if I were to do it, 507 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: it would happen this way kind of thing. And then uh, 508 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: the more interesting and this actually goes back to your 509 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: original question. There was one person who was for real 510 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: outraged at the idea that men are allowed to fuck 511 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: monkeys and women have never once been equipped or enabled 512 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: to fuck monkeys. Equipped, I mean equipped, I just think 513 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: higher of women. It's an issue of perspects for you. 514 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that they and maybe again I don't 515 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: know enough they. I don't know that they are equipped, 516 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: right because at the end of the day, the monkey 517 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: would have to be the insert or in this situation. 518 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can unless you're like, you know, 519 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: strapping a monkey down and somehow keeping it erect for 520 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: for the activation. I don't know how you pull that off. 521 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, how do they and I'm sorry to be crashed, 522 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: how do they do it? In Mexico? Fun monkeys? What 523 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: do you mean you know what what what the donkey shows? Oh? 524 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't actually know. To be honest, it 525 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: never came up in my research. That's fair. That's fair. 526 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's another thing. That's a whole other thing. 527 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: But I love that you whispered it just in somebody 528 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: was listening. I know it made me. It makes me 529 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: areas were this whole. I wish this wasn't my first 530 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: episode because we're already like out there, Yeah, we're crazy waters. 531 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: I wanted us to take a big swing, and in 532 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: some ways that was maybe too big a swing. Maybe 533 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: we could have started as something a little more reasonable. No, 534 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: we're in it now. We gotta get to the bottom 535 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: of it. People are making choices. So so it has 536 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: to be a man to female monkeys. What we're saying 537 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: that that is the suggestion, And to the point that 538 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: you brought up, it doesn't have to be a female monkey, 539 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: but it certainly has to be a man with a 540 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: desire to fuck a monkey. It seems to be able 541 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: to pull this off with with any possibility of transferring disease. 542 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: I would guess who's the woman you have sex with 543 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: after you have sex with a monkey. Yeah, poor lady, 544 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: that's crazy or guy whoever? The fucker whoever? It iss like, 545 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: that's a tough that's a tough second. Have you been 546 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: with anybody recently? Well, actually I briefly had a thing, 547 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: but it doesn't count. We couldn't make it work. So 548 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: one of the things that that then got me asking 549 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 1: is this question of inner species sex in general, right 550 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: and sort of like how often does this happen in 551 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: According to research that I found, it's actually super rare. 552 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, not a very popular thing. Although 553 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: you point reality, yeah, that best reality and specifically bestiality 554 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: not attached to entertainment. I think just just instinctual bestiality 555 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: is like truly one of the most rare things on 556 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: the planet. Apparent I get. I get that, I get 557 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: because it is that's perverse, like that's that's really that 558 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I'm not happy that. I'm happy 559 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: that that's the case. So they did, however, in the 560 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: reading that I did, point to an article about a 561 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: Japanese McCall. That's that that's monkey. You are asking about 562 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: their these red faced white monkeys that are native to Japan. 563 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: It sounds crazy when you say that I know you're 564 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: talking about an animal, fucking red faced white monkeys. That's all. 565 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: They hired a red lobster. It's that inn the slurk territory, 566 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: for sure. It feels so the These got damn red 567 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: faced white monkeys apparently live next to something called a 568 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: seek a deer. They all live on like these mountainous 569 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: regions together and they have a pretty symbiotic relationship. The 570 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: deer eat food that monkeys dropped from the trees. The 571 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: monkeys clean the deer. They sometimes use them for riding, 572 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: and they eat the bugs on their backs. It's sort 573 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: of like, ah, they like hang out together and ship. 574 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: But apparently years ago, not so many years ago, but 575 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: enough that that time has passed. There was a video 576 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: that went viral of one particular monkey who was said 577 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: to her had been unable to find a mate and 578 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: then subsequently decided to fuck a local deer instead. And 579 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: there's actual video of this monkey. Whoa fucking this dear? 580 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: I have one question, how do they know that that 581 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: was the backstory? And that's a great question. They cannot 582 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:38,959 Speaker 1: confirm that, Like, how do they know? Couldn't get They're 583 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: not following this monkey around for years and years watching 584 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 1: them just get like turned down by bad bitch monkeys, 585 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And 586 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: like we said, monkeys are thoughts, so that's even more 587 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: like yeah, no, it's a it's a solid question. They 588 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: do not have a solid answer for it. But one 589 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: of the things that they did point to as some 590 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: I guess, some attempt at reassurance is they said that 591 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: the monkey never in technically inserted himself into the deer 592 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: and was more just went humping the back. If that 593 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: makes sense, Oh that doesn't count. That's then I've had 594 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: sex with a dog, you know, like you know, you've 595 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: been dry humped by a dog before. Oh thank god, 596 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: thank that was because I could have gone the other 597 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: way with you on a dog's back. No no, no, no, 598 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: no no no, I can't, I can, I can. I 599 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: can find monkeys to have sex with. But yeah, they 600 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: said the monkey was just humping the deer's back and 601 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: came and then the deer licked the come off to 602 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: clean itself. I don't know if that makes you change 603 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: your mind on the results of this whole thing. I 604 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: don't love no, no, it's not great. I don't love it. 605 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: I somebody so Hey, somebody filmed this entire act. That's right, 606 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: some sick oh, some Japanese weirdo. And also is that 607 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: not and I don't once again not a doctor or here. 608 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: That's that's not enough for it to transfer it. I 609 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: don't believe. So I think that that whatever has to 610 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: happen would have to be like, uh yeah, I think so. 611 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean there's certainly have to be able to enter 612 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: the bloodstream in some kind of way. And that it 613 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: wasn't like it was like in the spot. It was 614 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: just sort of like on the back and then it'd 615 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: be like it, you know, get in come on your skin. 616 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: Is not necessarily going to guarantee you get AIDS. It's 617 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: it would need to like enter you somehow. Okay, this 618 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: is complicated. Now. The only other time that that any 619 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: of the research I found pointed to of this kind 620 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: of interaction involves male Antarctic fur seals coercing king penguins. 621 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: It basically coerce these king penguins into sexual acts, and one, 622 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: after busting his nut, ate the bird. Hold on, yep, 623 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: take your time with this one. Oh so much, it's 624 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: so much to attack. So the seals yea convinced the penguin. 625 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: The seals were fucking the penguins, it sounds like it, yeah, okay, 626 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: and then the seal busted in the penguin. I'm not 627 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: sure where the seal busted. There's not They weren't real 628 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: specific on this. This isn't porn hub. This is more 629 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: just it feels like it feels like you're people talking 630 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: loosely about the subject and you said sex acts, so 631 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: like maybe it was just hand stuff sometimes just like 632 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: after the movies, you know, those penguins and they're fame 633 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: his hand stuff, so the ate it. Yeah, So my 634 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: guess is is that these seals were pinning the penguins 635 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: down and just humping the sheet out of them. And 636 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: then it sounds like some of them were reasonable and 637 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: let them go, and then others were not and ate 638 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: the ship out of them. Nature. It's very bad, and 639 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: it's it's worth noting that this coercion, whatever it is, 640 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: there was one time I meant to mention this before 641 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: that the monkey, that same monkey apparently did try again 642 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: with a second deer and was met with quite a 643 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: bit of pushback, like that dear tried to kill the 644 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: funk out of that monkey, whereas the person one did not. 645 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I'm lost. So we do believe 646 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: that who started the aide? Well, we haven't really gotten 647 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: to that part. I'm just more exploring the possibility of 648 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: sucking the animals in general, how it could have moved 649 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: in and out. Yeah, but I love that You're like, 650 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't answer my question. How does steals fucking penguins 651 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: get us the aids? And it's a fair it's a 652 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: fair one. That's It's man, this is dark. It's so dark. 653 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: None of it's none of it's seeming to be heading 654 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: in a positive direction, but it is. It is interesting. 655 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: I hope, I don't know. We're gonna take a break. 656 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more David Bori and more, my 657 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: mama told me. And we are back. Who says I'm gay? Yeah, 658 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: we're back here with more day more you more, my 659 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: mama told me. We're still talking about the possibility of 660 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: fucking animals and getting uh diseases from them, and none 661 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: of it's making anybody feel good. But but we gotta 662 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: finish the episode. You know, you got you gotta finish 663 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: where what you start. You're right, You're right. My mama 664 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: told me to finish what I started. Hell yeah, even this, 665 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: do do you think she would she would tell finish this. 666 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: She's advocating all kinds of slander on here. So to 667 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: the biggest question you've been asking, the question if it 668 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: ain't monkey fucking right, because they're they're suggesting everything I 669 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: read it suggests exactly what you said, that even the 670 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: act of fucking a monkey is probably the hardest part 671 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: of this entire concept. That like the transference of s 672 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: i V to a person, ultimately making it HIV is 673 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: not an impossible thing through a sexual act, but the 674 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: literal sexual act is damn near impossible for a person 675 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: to pull off with a monkey or a chimp or 676 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: a gorilla or any other of that that type of organisms. 677 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: So that the big question is how did we fucking 678 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: acquired this ship? Right? And one of the things that 679 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: that they pointed to was that although AIDS is considered, 680 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,479 Speaker 1: HIV is considered this very eighties disease. And I didn't 681 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: even know that we we had a patient zero. Had 682 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: you heard about a patient zero for for HIV? Ever, 683 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: there's a there's an HIV patient zero. I think some 684 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: of it is rooted in a a was it Tom 685 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: Hanks in Philadelphia. It's Tom Hanks in Philadelphia. That's right. 686 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: That's why Denzel was so mad at him throughout the film. 687 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: He was like, man, you gave everybody this ship you're starting. 688 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see Philadelphia to back in 689 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: the habit. Wait, so he survives and he's just back 690 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: out here given more people what I'm a cop now, 691 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: haven't you seen my subsequent I really focused on cop 692 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: more than a lawyer after this one. Yeah. So one 693 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: of the things that I think they point to with 694 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: this patient zero conversation is that it's really rooted in 695 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: a type of homophobic lore. But there was an argument 696 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: that this Canadian flight attendant of like the early eighties 697 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: is considered patient zero because he was knowingly infecting up 698 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty dudes a year that he 699 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: was like basically just giving everybody the business numbers on 700 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: the board eighties. How did you even find them? This 701 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: is pre grinder numbers. Yeah, No, he no texting, no email, 702 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: He's just out in the world finding two d fifty 703 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: dudes a year at the ball are Doug That's that's us. 704 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: But he's but that is patient zero. That that is 705 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: what they weren't long referred to as Patient zero, although 706 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: I in my reading have been told that it is 707 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: likely more born from a type of hatred for gay 708 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: people and it is than it is like a certain 709 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: that this dude was the Patient zero. Now the person 710 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: himself does exist and it sounds like was doing this thing, 711 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: but he's light work like not my man. But computer 712 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: models have estimated that the first human infection of HIV 713 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: actually occurred all the way back into in nineteen so 714 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: he was very far from being any for any Patient zero. 715 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: So it's sort of like we just didn't know what 716 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: it was. We didn't know what it was, and it 717 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 1: wasn't until nineteen fifty nine that we actually were able 718 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: to identify the infection and it was found in the 719 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: plasma in the blood of an adult male living in 720 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: Belgian Congo. So damn it. I thought you were I 721 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: was hoping you were going to stop at Belgium. No, 722 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: but Belgian Congo, so he could have been living around 723 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: white people in the Congo. Have you seen the Congolese 724 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: people that he wasn't, but Belgium was taking it over. 725 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: They were out there doing you know. I think there 726 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: was like six dudes from Belgium there and fair enough 727 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: that I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. 728 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: They were just calling it Belgium Congo, but they it's 729 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: like it's how it's American Samala. I have never seen 730 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: American shore. It's more Samoans than Polynesian dudes. I got you. 731 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: So the more important suggestion that sort of came out 732 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: of this, because there's no one believes necessarily that this 733 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: dude was out there fucking monkeys. What they do suggest, however, 734 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: is that the disease he's likely spread through the consumption 735 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: of monkey blood or raw monkey meat, not eating monkey ass, 736 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: not raw monkey not raw monkey ass. They cook that, 737 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 1: but maybe not not as well as they should. Add, 738 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, people do eat monkey, but they cook it, 739 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,720 Speaker 1: so they think it started from somebody eating raw monkey meat. Yeah, 740 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: or or like getting some monkey blood on them and 741 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: then like exactly, or maybe you did cook it, but 742 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: you didn't cook it properly and ultimately sort of exposed 743 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: yourself to to a disease that you otherwise would not 744 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: have had. That that makes more sense to me, and 745 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: that that that seems reasonable. Yeah, it's it's it's not 746 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: a reasonable as anything that's been said in the last 747 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: There are also and this is this actually might be 748 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: even more reasonable. There are also suggestions that HIV may 749 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: have occurred. Uh and I'm gonna use this word, but 750 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know it. I atro genetically for genetically when 751 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: chimps were used in developing a polio vaccine for humans. 752 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: Oh okay, So for those listening who don't know what 753 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: that means, explained that. Not for you, not for for everybody. 754 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know. So I think what they're suggesting 755 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: is that they were testing chimp genes for the development 756 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: of a polio vaccine and ultimately may have been exposed 757 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: that same test on human beings and created HIV. Okay, yeah, 758 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: I mean that that seems to any if any of 759 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: this to me, that seems like a possibility. It's that right, 760 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: like Man's folly, Man's folly. I'll been on that every 761 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: single time. Yeah, I mean, I think it it it's 762 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: and I know that this is not the conversation that 763 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: we're having around it anymore, but it isn't unrelated to 764 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: the suggestion that COVID was sort of born from a 765 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: mishap in somebody's lab or or you know, mixing of 766 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: bloods and chemicals and ship and now suddenly we have 767 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: this virus. Do I believe that it happened in China? 768 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 1: That ain't my business, But do I do? I believe 769 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: that human beings probably did a thing that they weren't 770 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: supposed to do and that ultimately landed us in a 771 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: spot where like a global pandemic happens absolutely at time. Yes, yeah, yeah, 772 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: that's that's that's I'm if. If I have to pick 773 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: one idea from this whole thing, I'm picking either old 774 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 1: white ladies and cats or Zipolio. So just to be clear, 775 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: because because you were very anti white, white are not 776 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: white women being the type of people that would fuck 777 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: animals earlier? But you're saying, oh white women, you're making exceptions. 778 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: They don't think they're I don't think they're sucking the cats. 779 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: I think they're just the ship particles are wrong, got you? 780 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,919 Speaker 1: They got all kinds of blood and stuff, so yeah, 781 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: they're touching those hairballs. I think these are fair arguments. 782 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: I think I think you've brought up some legit potential 783 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: things that some of these scientists, if nothing else, need 784 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: to wrestle with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely yeah, you 785 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: can't keep skipping this over. You gotta you gotta face it. Yeah, 786 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: don't worry about space. We got some problems down here, 787 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, solve things here and then you can 788 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: go to space and buy Twitter or whatever the fuck 789 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: you're planned to do. Well, David, we did it. I 790 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 1: think this is I think this was a great inaugural 791 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: episode for us. I think we've really nailed the whole thing. 792 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: I think we really I think we really really got 793 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: to the bottom of some hard hitting issues. Fuck yeah, 794 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: when we're gonna do this every week? This is the plan. 795 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to tell the folks where where they 796 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: can find you and what cool ship you have going on? Oh? 797 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: You know my Instagram? My Instagram is cool guy jokes, 798 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: Sadie seven. I I got rid of Twitter because I 799 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't handle it. My Instagram it's on there. 800 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: I do stand up comedy and stuff. Hell yeah, go 801 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: go follow David on Instagram. Go go follow him on 802 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: on Uh, I guess just Instagram, that's it. Look at 803 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: his jokes wherever you can find those, and uh, you 804 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: can always follow me at lens in Kerman and you 805 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: can send us drops. You can send us conspiracy theories. 806 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: You can send us your own bullshit at my Mama 807 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 1: pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear 808 00:52:48,400 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: from you. Otherwise, that's it, by bitch. Uncle Wild Bears 809 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: were racist. They also players for posting money versions of 810 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: many turkey stuff I can't tell me about