WEBVTT - Assistant GM Rex Hogan (2/27)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services.

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen, joined by the Assistant GM of

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Checks, Rex Hogan. Rex, thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us here. Yeah, one of the one of the busiest

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<v Speaker 1>men in the National Football League this week since in

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Jets. Yeah, you know what, what about

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<v Speaker 1>how the processes maybe changed because it's a made for

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<v Speaker 1>TV event now the workout it's NFL Network televising these

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<v Speaker 1>guys um in prime time and for years I'd look

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys and at night you would be actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing formal interviews. I gotta imagine a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>are flipped for you. It's exactly what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been flipped early part of the week. It's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>the same schedule, but just now we've changed it so that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the prime time prime time schedule from

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<v Speaker 1>four pm to eleven o'clock at night on Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Sunday it will be starting it too and

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<v Speaker 1>then go to a probably nine o'clock at night. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just different. We're having the interviews earlier in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning now and on Wednesday, Thursday today it will be

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<v Speaker 1>much more extended with the interviews throughout, So you just

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<v Speaker 1>adjust to it. It's part of it. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>pressures put on the players too in terms of that

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<v Speaker 1>having how the where they've come from, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>their preparation that they might have been getting up early

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning and now all of a sudden they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to start training a little bit differently and preparing

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies to be ready from that four o'clock to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock window. I remember a few years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>your first stint with the New York Jets. We sat

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<v Speaker 1>in Lucas Soil watching some of the drills and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you try to get out of this? And

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<v Speaker 1>you said, what you're trying to see here is that

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<v Speaker 1>what they do on the field bell at dates the

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<v Speaker 1>tape exactly. And it's part of the process. And we

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<v Speaker 1>always call you each aspect of it is a certain

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the puzzle, and this is obviously a major

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the puzzle. But it's good because you can

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<v Speaker 1>see them, you know who the guys are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rise the cream to the top in terms of each

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<v Speaker 1>one of the position groups from a competitive standpoint, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just see those guys kind of shine and when

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<v Speaker 1>they when they get under the lights, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different situation for him, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you see like guys start to separate themselves. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it's say a three horse race, a receiver defensive act,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's the best usually kind of shows themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also told once that it kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>combine can break up the clusters. To your point, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a group of guys that have similar grades,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the combine helps set the order. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about the interviews because now that the

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<v Speaker 1>interviews are earlier and the bench press is going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now behind us, So so if you hears some

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<v Speaker 1>other noise, it's that, Um, is there a different feel

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<v Speaker 1>to the interviews being at a different time, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know the structure will remain the same, but is it

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<v Speaker 1>at all different that the drills and everything comes later

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<v Speaker 1>in the day and the first thing is the interview. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'll be a little different for him because

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, on the day that they work out,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have interviews in the morning. But so that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of something from them to adjust to.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're traditionally the same, you know, aspect in terms of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what we want to find out from over

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of their background, what they know in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of football, their football intelligence, type of system they were

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<v Speaker 1>in their ability to communicate what they played in and

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<v Speaker 1>their football knowledge overall. March eighteenth, the start of free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the assistant general manager the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only are you getting ready for the draft

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<v Speaker 1>in late April, you guys have twenty one on restricted

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<v Speaker 1>free agents, a couple of our phase, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking elsewhere exploring contracts. How do you go about

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<v Speaker 1>making a board for the draft and making a board

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<v Speaker 1>for free agency in terms of targets is a very similar, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Just so throughout the fall we've going we do a

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<v Speaker 1>progress in terms of, you know, the college scouts are

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. They're doing a great job of identifying

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<v Speaker 1>the college prospects for us. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>the pro personnel department is doing the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've got guys tagged and alerted that everybody know, say

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna be a u f A or

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<v Speaker 1>an r f A, you know, potential cap cut. So

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<v Speaker 1>somebody we need to know about and so throughout the fall,

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<v Speaker 1>those are you know, those are taking priority in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're the pro scouts are looking at as

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<v Speaker 1>well as their individual teams. So it kind of sets

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<v Speaker 1>a board for us for when we go into our

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<v Speaker 1>January meetings and then you know, we have our January

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<v Speaker 1>meetings with pro going to a pro personnel free agency meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>We just had college scouts in for eleven days and

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<v Speaker 1>so they we went over to the guys who were

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<v Speaker 1>you know, draft prospects, priority free agent prospects. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>setting the board. But they make a long story short.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a delicate balance between both, you know, a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a great pro staff, we've got a great

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<v Speaker 1>college staff, and you know, helps us make our jobs

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<v Speaker 1>easier in terms of building up to the selection process.

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<v Speaker 1>In April. I talked to Joe Douglas about it yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>said that during those draft meetings UM in February prior

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<v Speaker 1>to coming here in Indianapolis, you guys have an initial board.

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<v Speaker 1>We do, we do. We We've got the board initially

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<v Speaker 1>set um just from of the scouts grades that come

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<v Speaker 1>in from the fall and from what they what they've

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<v Speaker 1>seen and usually there's some conflicting grades, and so when

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<v Speaker 1>we get together as a groups and an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>us to to hear the reports and to watch tape

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<v Speaker 1>as a group and collectively discuss you know, hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>what do you see his strengths? What do you see

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<v Speaker 1>as weaknesses? What do we ultimately what do we see

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? What's his value for the Jets? So it's

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<v Speaker 1>good it helps us having a board, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of going into it before we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mold it into to what we want as a group.

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<v Speaker 1>What's this week been like for you coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis obviously where you lived and used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Colts, So what is it like for

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<v Speaker 1>you to come back to this place. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little surreal, do you know? Flying in, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I was in the transition back in June

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I left there to come here, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was other than moving out of my house and

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<v Speaker 1>in past July, that's the first time that I've been back,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it was like I felt like just yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time felt like so long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. So it was cool to be back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had some buddies from the old neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>come down and meet me for dinner the other night.

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<v Speaker 1>So always good to connect man see, and not only

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<v Speaker 1>guys with the Colts, but you know, stadium employees and

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<v Speaker 1>other people around the city who you've seen and gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to know over the past two years. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to connect. I know they are very different people obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe some similarities an approach between Chris Ballard and

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Tom Joe Douglas, because when I think of the

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<v Speaker 1>Colts and what you guys did there is you build

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<v Speaker 1>it from the inside out you want to and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys formed maybe the best offensive line and all football.

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<v Speaker 1>And now when you hear Joe talk says that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an emphasis for us, not only this year, but

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward forever long I'm here. Yeah. Absolutely. We always

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that in in Indianapolis, and you know pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much everywhere else does it as well. It's hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta build inside out. It starts with the front makes

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<v Speaker 1>life easier on the back end for both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. So that's something we're gonna continue to do

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<v Speaker 1>here and develop within the the Jets organization, develop within

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<v Speaker 1>our our roster in in terms of a competitive situation

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<v Speaker 1>where we're constantly bringing in guys to push those those

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<v Speaker 1>starters and potential starters and guys we can developer down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. So I just want to get into your

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<v Speaker 1>background a little bit before you get going here, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're a very busy man as the assistant GM. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>where were you, Let's just say twenty years ago this

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<v Speaker 1>time of year, probably years ago, I was at Notre Dame. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>we had just finished up going in weird preparation, finishing

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<v Speaker 1>up with the draft class and going into the off

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<v Speaker 1>season for two thousand season, which it turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be a great season for us. We ended up going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Fiestavo lost unfortunately. But yeah, it twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>was right after signing day and you're already transitioned into

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<v Speaker 1>the next class, and so yeah, it brings back good

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<v Speaker 1>memories back in the state. Again, what stands out to

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<v Speaker 1>you most about your long run with Chicago Bears? And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you could talk about a couple of our mentors

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, Uh name Jerry Age? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had gotten to know Jerry when I was

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<v Speaker 1>at Notre Dame as a pro liaison had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to come through, and he kind of developed relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>guys who want to talk about you know, players, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about this guy. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it? And so it kind of helped

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<v Speaker 1>you like clear your mindset in terms of an evaluator

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<v Speaker 1>at the college level and how we had to project

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<v Speaker 1>from high school to college. You do the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>in in the NFL, projecting guys from college to the pros.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jerry really helped me with that. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a great run there. I went to the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the Colts again. Yeah, but you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>competed in the NFC Championship, uh second time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after winning it on that year that we went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. But man, it was a great run,

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<v Speaker 1>great city, great time. We had a lot of great guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Our our college staff was was awesome. We had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is now the general manager for the Colts. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really good group, a lot of good guys, man,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good mentors. Helped me out and get

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<v Speaker 1>into the league. How did your roles change over time there? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, progressed from an area scout into uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>national scout going over the top. Uh, not only west

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mississippi for a few years, and then east

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mississippi living in Nashville and my wife working

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<v Speaker 1>at Vanderbilt. You know, Southeast was always a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a stronghold on college football. So I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>to stay there and live there and get a good

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<v Speaker 1>balance of not only the SEC but all over the country. Ville.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great city, great city, van it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fun. We were there twelve twelve years,

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife worked there at Vanderbilt for eleven eleven

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<v Speaker 1>years and eleven seasons. Saw a lot of good football

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<v Speaker 1>college football players come through there. And you know, Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Cutler was a quarterback for Vanderbilt at that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>then James Franklin came in and took over. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a nice run as well. So we had we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up having a lot of players on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster in Chicago from Vanderbilt. You know, at one point

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<v Speaker 1>we had Jay Cutler, Chris Williams, Earl Bennett, D. J. Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>and Hunter hill Am. I yeah, nice group of guys

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<v Speaker 1>and starting players and played well for us. You played

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<v Speaker 1>collegiately at Austin pe But what late. What led you

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<v Speaker 1>to Notre Dame because you mentioned Notre Dame to start

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<v Speaker 1>here twenty years ago you were with the Fighting Irish

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<v Speaker 1>and Urban Meyer. But how did you lay in there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Networking more than anything else, you know, I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was working in private business sector in Nashville, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>was at the point I was like, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And so called a guy who had a connection with

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<v Speaker 1>a family friend had a guy who was an insistant

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<v Speaker 1>athletic director within the athletic department, and they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>for an internship within the for an intern within the

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<v Speaker 1>athletic department, and went up on an interview and guests

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<v Speaker 1>did well enough to get the job and started out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the wages were small, but the job was

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<v Speaker 1>in mys was was huge and it was a great,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, opportunity. I grew up a huge Notre Dame fan,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had a younger brother who was enrolled in

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<v Speaker 1>school there at that point too, so it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>My my whole family grew up Notre Dame fans, So

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like a lifelong dream. Well what

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<v Speaker 1>did you what did you do it Notre Dame for

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<v Speaker 1>Urban and then later on you must have did a

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<v Speaker 1>good job because when he went to Utah, he said, Rice,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, I got another position for Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was working in the recruiting and operations aspect there with

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<v Speaker 1>the football team, and uh, Bob Davy was our head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and on that staff we had, you know, tremendous staff.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Urban Meyer head coach and as well as

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<v Speaker 1>he's done Steven Dazio, who's been a head coach at

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<v Speaker 1>Temple and Boston College now at Colorado State. Dan Mullin

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<v Speaker 1>was a graduate assistant now the head coach of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>And then John D. Philippo was a graduate assistant who's

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<v Speaker 1>gone on and had been successful in the in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Is an offensive coordinator and quarterback coach. So really good staff,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know he had a good ability with

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<v Speaker 1>not only him, but Greg Madison was another guy who

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<v Speaker 1>served it, you know, mentor in terms of evaluations and

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<v Speaker 1>the way they saw players. And so, yeah, Urban and

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<v Speaker 1>I hit it off. He went to Bowling Green with

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Mullin. From that aspect. He went for two years

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<v Speaker 1>and then trans transitioned into the University of Utah. So

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<v Speaker 1>gaming an opportunity to go with him as director of

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<v Speaker 1>operations and recruiting coordinator. So I went out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>or transition to Chicago. Yeah, did you think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in the college game for a while? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought so with the change in in the recruiting aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Jerry Angelo, you know, made a great point

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Hey, what do you what do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do see yourself doing five years from now? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see you light up when you start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>player evaluations as opposed to the operations aspect. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was right on, spot on with it and then talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me into making the transition, making the change to

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL, and seventeen seasons later, Man, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a great run. Go ahead. I was gonna say, for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that's been in the college game now the pro game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have so many different roles, and clearly you

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<v Speaker 1>love football. Anyone that's sitting where you are as an

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<v Speaker 1>it'sistant GM loves football. But what is it about the

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<v Speaker 1>sport that you just makes you that originally made you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of it and still to

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<v Speaker 1>this day you love about it. Yeah, it's the competition

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<v Speaker 1>and the camaraderie and in the relationships that you build

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<v Speaker 1>because it's everybody. You know, it's a very unique sport

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know that. You know, there's a eleven

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<v Speaker 1>guys in one common goal of winning. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much different from the basketball from baseball that

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<v Speaker 1>you can have some individual you know, accolades in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of performance and one guy can carry five guys in basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's tough for one guy to carry eleven in football.

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<v Speaker 1>But more than anything else, I think it's the common

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<v Speaker 1>goal and the common drive that it's winning above everything

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<v Speaker 1>when you get down to it, and if everybody's focused

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<v Speaker 1>on that and has competitive drive in the passion for it,

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<v Speaker 1>then everything's gonna you know, progress. Well for you organization,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about this group that you're working

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<v Speaker 1>with now? Uh, Joe up at the top, but then

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<v Speaker 1>Jed Alexander, we talked to him yesterday. Um Phil Savage

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<v Speaker 1>and the experience he brings to the team. John Carr,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can go to the pro side and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Greg Nama, but well, what can you what

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<v Speaker 1>can you say about these guys behind the scenes? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because Joe obviously at the forefront. Yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great group. Man. We've you know, I knew everybody

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<v Speaker 1>previously from being on the road, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>scouting community is a small world when you get out

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<v Speaker 1>on the road and you make school visits and you

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<v Speaker 1>develop relationships and along the way, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to know Joe, I guess you know, Chad, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to know phil Um. Didn't really know Greg until

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<v Speaker 1>my first run run with the Jets. But it's been great, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the three guys who we talked about first,

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<v Speaker 1>they each one of them has over twenty years of

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<v Speaker 1>experience in the NFL, and they were all in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>and had won Super Bowls. And Joe's transitioned from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore with Chicago before he went to Philly and won

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<v Speaker 1>another Super Bowl. So, you know, just just leaning on

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<v Speaker 1>those guys and their perspective of how they did it,

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<v Speaker 1>how they won super Bowls, and hopefully collectively as a group,

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<v Speaker 1>we can bring all that together and mean good things

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jets down the road. You know, real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>before we let you go, you've been on the road

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Let's your go to snack uh almonds or

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<v Speaker 1>cash us or protein bars, Okay, fair enough, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all protein. That's the e A diet. You know that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're excited for what's ahead over the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Here is before you know it, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be back. You're gonna have your final free agency meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can be hosting people, talking to people, negotiating

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, filling some holes. Because Joe said it clearly, Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we got some holes to fill and we know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna attack them, but we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>reckless with our decisions. And then I gotta imagine you

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<v Speaker 1>and your position would echo the sentiments is maybe free

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<v Speaker 1>agency is where you plug those holes. So you never

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<v Speaker 1>want to go into a draft where you're reaching for

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<v Speaker 1>a need, right, but one uf as, like you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in three r f A s, that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four spots that you're gonna have to take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>The free agencies is gonna be tough. We've got we

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<v Speaker 1>have a draft picks, so you know, not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>we also have the you know, undrafted free agents after

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<v Speaker 1>the draft as well, in terms of guys to add

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<v Speaker 1>to to our roster and the competition to add so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's an awesome, awesome moment. When you

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and think about it, you're like, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to turn this roster over and to

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<v Speaker 1>add add new life, younger, younger players. Guys are going

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<v Speaker 1>to contribute and make us better as a team. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really exciting. We talked about it as a group

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<v Speaker 1>all the time of Hey, each day we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and look for jets. How nice of a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling is it to come to Indianapolis and the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>always drive things with the Colts. You guys had Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Luck for a while, so you knew you were set there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have a quarterback in San Donald as a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday player who's just twenty two years old. How nice

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<v Speaker 1>is it to be in that position as you try

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to build this team. Yeah, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>comforting feeling, especially with twenty two and and and Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and and how good he's been for us and how

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna continue to get better. So he's just scratching

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<v Speaker 1>the surface in terms of what he can be as

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<v Speaker 1>a player. Yeah, like you said, he's twenty two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's guys who are quarterbacks in this year's

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<v Speaker 1>draft too, are older Row six months older than right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's it's a very comforting fact to

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<v Speaker 1>know that that we can add pieces around him and

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<v Speaker 1>build around him. And we've got our franchise quarterback of

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<v Speaker 1>the future so are currently presently so we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to build around him. So yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great feeling to have and we'll just add pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Rox Well, thanks for coming on the Official

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