1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime, 3 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: at lambau Field West. We are another day closer to 5 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Packers Panthers three pm Central Time kickoff on Sunday afternoon 6 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. And as the Packers wrapped up their 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: first day of on field preparations for this game on Wednesday, 8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: we got the opportunity to talk to a lot of 9 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: players in the locker room after practice. There's an overriding 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: theme here, particularly on the offensive side of the ball, 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: but really it applies to both sides of the ball 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: that coming off of that game against the Chargers, the 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Packers just want to get back to who they are. 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: And I think on offense, there's one thing that a 15 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: lot of different people, head, coach, quarterback, everybody are pointing 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: to to get their offensively and it has to do 17 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: with the running backs. It does, Mike, because at this 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: point of the season, ten weeks into this thing already, 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: I think you've seen that Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams in 20 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: terms of difference makers and playmakers. This offense operates at 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: a different level when those two guys are involved, and 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: they just didn't get to that last week. You know, 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: they opened the game. He actually was funny. I even 24 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: said this to you in the press box. It's almost 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: like they took a little bit of a cue from 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: what Kansas City did and motioning Aaron Jones out and 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: it was kind of a moving rotation where he's just 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: sort of hovering in space, almost like an arena Football 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: League type play. They threw the ball to him, but 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: the block wasn't there to end up being like a 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: one yard game and didn't really go anywhere. But you 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: could see early on that what that was going to 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: be the game plan, you know, incorporating them in the run, 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: getting them involved in the past, and once they got 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: in that two minute operation, you didn't really see it 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that much. They used Davante Adams once, I think in 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: the backfield motioning out that was a concept I thought 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: when we saw that, we'd see a lot more of 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: it during the game. And just blending your playmakers together, 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams and being able to 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: get contributions from multiple players. I think is just so essential. 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: It's what made this offense as good as it was 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: in October without Adams, and they have to get back 44 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: to that now. Yeah. Well, I wrote a story last 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: night on the website after those locker room interviews because 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I thought Aaron Rodgers had some very pointed comments. He 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: doesn't do this very often, but he's actually throwing out 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: numbers saying, hey, Aaron Jones needs needs to touch the 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: ball fifteen to twenty times, Jamal Williams need to touch 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: it ten to fifteen times. That's when this offense is 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: at its best. I went and took a look at 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: some of the numbers west and they're in the story 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: for anybody who wants to check them out. But if 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: you if you split the Packers season into what I 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: would say, we're there there three worst games, the two losses, 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: and then the offensive performance in Chicago in Week one 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: and then the other six. It's really pretty remarkable because 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: if you take sixty yards of combined rushing and receiving 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: from one individual, because we've seen Aaron Jones and Jamal 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Williams both have those kinds of performances, if you use 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: sixty yards as the measuring stick, neither one of them 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: had a combined sixty yards from scrimmage game in those 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: first three games that I mentioned. The two of them 64 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: collective collectively have had seven sixty plus yard yards from 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: scrimmage performances in the other games. And even more important, 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: fifteen of their combined seventeen touchdowns have come in that 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: block of six games when the Packers have been playing 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: their best. So some will say, well, are they producing 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: because the Packers are winning or the Packers winning because 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: they're producing? I say it's the latter, because the numbers. 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: The numbers just show when those guys, when those guys 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: are moving the ball and getting it in the end zone, 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: that's when this Packers team is choking us win. Yeah. 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and and honestly, you throw that question out there, 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: and I don't even know if it really matters. That's 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: where you your your fastball is right now. You you 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: dance with the one that brung you. I mean, this 78 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: is one of these things that when you see those 79 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: type of numbers and you see that type of production, 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: you have to run with it. You have to be 81 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: able to get it incorporated into your offense. The big 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: stat I threw out there a couple of weeks ago 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: in the first four games and they had Davante Adams 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: in September. I think it was somewhere around four hundred 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: total yards, one touchdown, two touchdowns something like that between 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams. In the four games without him, 87 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: I think it was something like seven hundred fifty yards 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns. Actually, I think it was like four touchdowns 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: the first four or five touchdowns the first four games. 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: Either way, it shows you the difference of when those 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: guys are involved and when they're playing well. It doesn't 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: have to be either or. I mean, I think you 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: know Davante Adams is that's a mouth that you want 94 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: to feed as well. You want to get him opportunities. 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: He's one of your big play threats as a receiver. 96 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: It's understanding now, much like Aaron Rodgers head to do 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: in two thousand fourteen, is the resources you have in 98 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: the backfield now too, and being able to make sure 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: that you get those guys the touches that they need 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: to have the appropriate impact on this offense. And I 101 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: just think you know, when you go back and you 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: boil that game down, and I've said it to you 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: a couple of times. This week never really felt like 104 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: they got off the plane, and it never really felt 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: like offensively, you ever really saw a semblance of what 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: made them successful in the four weeks prior to that. 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: This game against Carolina, if you want to dial up 108 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the film and in te Hron Rivera's credit, you know, 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: he said, stuff happens. They don't really took a lot. 110 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: They didn't take a lot from that San Francisco game. 111 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: They had turnovers, but San Francisco did run a lot 112 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: against them in that matchup. I want to say somewhere 113 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: around over two yards they were able to produce on 114 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: the ground. Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams. Honestly, I'll take them 115 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: over what San Francisco has right now and there that backfield, 116 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: those guys have to be a focal point going into 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: this game against the Panthers, especially with how cold it's 118 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: going to be at potentially at home. Yeah, well, Carolina's 119 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: run defense numbers certainly took a hit against San Francisco, 120 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: But we are at the point in the season where 121 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: you know, you don't just say, well, it was one game, 122 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: because you look at the collective and the Panthers are 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: in the bottom quarter, bottom third of the league in 124 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: rushing yards allowed per game. They are I believe they're 125 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: thirty first in the league in yards per carry. So 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: this this defense can be had with the run. And 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: but that being said, I'm not necessarily advocating with regards to, 128 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, the touches for Jones and Williams that the 129 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: Packers just trying to pound away with the run. I 130 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: think it's still it's the Packers doing what they do 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: best in getting the ball in their hands. However you 132 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: want to get it to them and then see how 133 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the Panthers defense reaction there. How does Luke Keickley react, 134 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: What do they do with that defensive front, and how 135 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: does that maybe affect their pass rush which is racked 136 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: up the league leading thirty four sacks if they have 137 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: to worry about the running back spreading them horizontally and 138 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: whatnot throughout the game. So that's the uh, that's the 139 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: game planning, the chess match, the x is and nose 140 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: part of this that I think will be interesting to 141 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: see unfold on Sunday. The Panthers, maybe more than any 142 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: other defense right now in the NFL, they take chances, 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: and those chances occasionally have led to big breaks for 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: the opposing run game. You know, when you catch them 145 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: in a particular look, in a particular particular scheme and 146 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: you get the numbers in your favor. That's where Caroline 147 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: has been hurt to this point. So you're absolutely right. 148 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a case of just pounded, you know, 149 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: carry after carry after carry. I just, you know, I 150 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: think it really boils down to whether you're passing or 151 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: whether you're running. Playing clean football right off the bat. 152 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: The Packers didn't play clean enough football in that first 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: quarter against the Chargers, and that's what led to them 154 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: having to, you know, make some of the decisions that 155 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: they made with the offensive scheme. I want to say, 156 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones mentioned at his locker on Wednesday there might 157 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: have been five offensive plays in the first half that 158 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: were not flagged for Green Bay. I mean, it was 159 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: low in terms of you know, issues where you're kind 160 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: of shooting yourself in the foot a little bit and 161 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: then you got to try to bounce back, and now 162 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: you're in third and long, and now you're really you know, 163 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: limiting your offensive playbook. So yeah, I just I think 164 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: that first quarter, that first that second quarter. I don't 165 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: care if it's running between the tackles. I don't care 166 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: if it's in space. I don't care what you have 167 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: to do. But get those running backs involved in this 168 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: offense and let that start to work for you a 169 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: little bit and get into that rhythm that Aaron Rodgers 170 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: was talking about, because even now after losing to eleven 171 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: at his locker on Wednesday, he's still kind of had 172 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: that feeling in the back of his mind that, you know, 173 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: if we just had one big play that could have 174 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: been the thing that broke the whole thing open. Yeah, 175 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: when that game was nothing, twelve to nothing, And that's 176 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: the thing, and that that's where Matt Lafleur has been 177 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: critical of himself this week for not sticking to the 178 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: game plan long enough in Los Angeles because at nine 179 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: and nothing, at twelve to nothing, one score changes the game. 180 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: But the Packers were kind of chasing it in terms 181 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: of trying to make a big play and get that 182 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: spark offensively, which I don't necessarily fault the effort in 183 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: doing that, because that's what one in the game in Chicago. 184 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, the offense was going nowhere, hit the 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: big shot play down the field MVS and then suddenly 186 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: you're on the move and you're in position to win 187 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: the game. So I don't fault the effort there. But 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Lafleur has been critical of himself for not really just 189 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: taking a deep breath and looking at the scoreboard. As 190 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: badly as everything had gone, it was a two score 191 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: game for still a long stretch where you just needed 192 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: one score to get back into it. And we'll see 193 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: him definitely, uh stick to his game plan a little 194 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: bit more because I Matt Lafleur believes in his game plans. 195 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. He's and he's proven in 196 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: this half a season that he's been a head coach 197 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: for the first time in the NFL. He's proven as 198 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: this offense has evolved and he's gotten to know his 199 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: own players better, that he has put them in a 200 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of really good positions to have success. The two 201 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: biggest things that he's brought to Green Bay so far, 202 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: in addition to the motioning and bunch formations and some 203 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: of the things that they're doing with the you know, 204 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: the outside zone, is the belief first off, in the 205 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: running backs and introducing the two running back packages. I 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: thought that was a really nice wrinkle that this offense 207 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: had been because when you have those type of playmakers, 208 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: you've got to get them on the field. I don't 209 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: care what the packages are, and they've been very creative 210 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: with how they've used both of those guys. But the 211 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: other thing is these scripted plays early on. Packers have 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: been snake bit in the last few years by being 213 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: able to get off to a quick start offensively. They've 214 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: very much done that this year. I think one of 215 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the studies I'll probably do once is year ends is 216 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: just looking at, Okay, how did these first you know 217 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: drives compared to previous years, because honestly, this is about 218 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: as seamless as it's been at least during my time 219 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: on the beat, probably going back to two thousand twelve, 220 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: in terms of how it feels with how they've been 221 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: getting off to these starts. But the last thing that 222 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: I've really liked about him is the accountability side of it. 223 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers spoke on that at his locker two. The 224 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: coaches can walk into that room and they can correct 225 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: and critique every single thing that players do, and they're 226 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: probably directly in the right. You have to have players, 227 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: you have to have scheme in order to be successful, 228 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: but there is a finger that gets pointed at themselves 229 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: as well and understanding that, yeah, I didn't do what 230 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: I needed to do to put a particular play you're 231 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: in the right look, or you know, give them the 232 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: right opportunity, or being able to stay committed to the 233 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: game plan and not jump to conclusions when you aren't 234 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: getting things going. That type of accountability goes along way, Mike, 235 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: because I'll tell you right now, I've worked for both 236 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: type of leaders during my short thirty one years of 237 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: life and decade as a full time employee. The people 238 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: that pointed themselves and say, you know what, what we 239 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: did there, that's not right? Those are the people you 240 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: ultimately have respect for. The people that just kind of 241 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: shove off responsibility and say, yeah, that was mostly on you. 242 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. Those are the people 243 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: that you're not gonna want to work for, you're not 244 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna want to play for, You're not going to build 245 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: a championship with. And I think that is the number 246 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: one foundation When people ask us about Insider Inbox, one 247 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: of the questions was today, well, you know, Matt Lafleur 248 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: was was outcoached or he was over his head man. 249 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Look around the NFL for two seconds, I was gonna 250 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: take a look at all the new head coaches in 251 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: the NFL this year and look at their records, and 252 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: look at the Packers record. I mean, there's there's something 253 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: pretty good going on here. And yes, the Packers had 254 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: a dud, a stinker, a clunker of a game, but 255 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: it does not define who the two thousand nineteen Green 256 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Bay Packers are. Now it's on them to make that sentiment, 257 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: make that mentality hold up here as the second half 258 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: of the season continues. But um, but yeah, let's uh. 259 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, as you said earlier this week, you don't 260 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: let one bad day at the office ruin what you've 261 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: been working on for months. Absolutely, And I mean and 262 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: now just going into this game against Carolina, you hit 263 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: it right on the head. You have to win this 264 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: game against the Panthers. That's the focus. Now to Ron 265 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Rivera's original point, it's the reason why the Panthers were 266 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: able to come back and beat the Titans the way 267 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: they did. You had a bad day. You need to 268 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: flush it, not allowed affect this Sunday, because if you 269 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: let it affect this Sunday, then you're staring into the 270 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: bye week on a two game skid. Yeah, well, there's 271 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: certainly been no lack of accountability on the defensive side 272 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: of the ball for the Packers as well some some 273 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: rough film sessions this week and going over what happened 274 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: against the Chargers the defense, there are a lot of 275 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: metrics showing the defense has been ending a bit in 276 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: the wrong direction. I know some people wondering, Okay, when 277 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: you get Darnell Savage back, is that going to change things? 278 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: And I was cautioning, then, hey, it's not. It's not 279 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: just one person. And I say that as a preference 280 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: preface to what we're going to talk about now, because 281 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: we could be seeing a change in a pretty frequently 282 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: used package by Mike Petton with regards to Ibraheim Campbell 283 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: now coming off of the pu P list. And I 284 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: know earlier in the week you and I were a 285 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: little bit skeptical just how quickly Campbell might be reintegrated 286 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: into the defense. But what we heard yesterday from Matt 287 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Lafleur and from Campbell himself in the locker room and 288 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: some of his teammates, it sounds like he's good to go. 289 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: That that he could be out there in a fairly 290 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: significant role right away on Sunday. Tell us your impressions 291 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: because you were part of the conversation with Campbell and 292 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: maybe what you see happening on Sunday, well, Campbell was 293 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: that was fascinating what happened last year. And I know 294 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: he had the one year with Mike Petton, but that 295 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: was his rookie season and he suddenly gets claimed off 296 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: waivers right after the Packers made decision to trade Haha 297 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: Clinton Dick's for a fourth round pick and incomes Ibrahim 298 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Campbell and he wasn't asked to play safety. They put 299 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: him in the box and they put him in there 300 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: with Blake Martinez, and he played really well. Eighteen tackles, 301 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: five stops according to Pro Football Focus, no miss tackles 302 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: during that time, and Hey was also pretty good in coverage. 303 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: He was a revelation for that defense in the month 304 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: of November. Unfortunately, he ends up tearing his a c 305 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: L in that game against Arizona, the first game he 306 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: was actually starting in this defense, and he ends up 307 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: missing the last ten eleven months here rehabbing. Campbell is 308 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: a fascinating player because he was I think he was 309 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: a former fourth or fifth round pick with Cleveland, showed 310 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: a lot of promise early on, but never became an 311 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: entrenched starter in those defenses. Then he bopped around. He 312 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: was in New York, he was in Houston, I think 313 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: in Dallas first spell, and he ends up in Green 314 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: Bay and for him to be able to pick up 315 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: the playbook being claimed on November five of last year, 316 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: and he was playing in Seattle two weeks later and 317 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: playing a lot of snaps on defense, not special teams defense. 318 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: He mentioned it, and I thought this was a really 319 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: interesting point he made in that, you know, he kind 320 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: of knew the game a little bit when he came back. 321 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: Packers had Raven Green and that hybrid safety role Josh 322 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Jones eventually would end up being let go. He knew 323 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: that he was sort of the insurance policy. I don't 324 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: think hit Neither he nor the Packers thought they were 325 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna have to cash in on that policy as early 326 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: as they did. Raven Green gets end up, you know, 327 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: having that ankle injury, played really well against Chicago and 328 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: then here they are having to rotate a lot of people. 329 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: In matt With Flora said it himself a revolving door 330 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: of sorts next to Blake Martinez, and I honestly think, 331 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: and I don't want to overstate the importance of one 332 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: particular player, but that void has kind of been something 333 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: that's just kind of crept up on the Packers defense 334 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and they haven't been able to fill it. Um Amos 335 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: played that spot, Will Redman has played that spot. I 336 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: thought maybe or and Burke's coming back would help them there, 337 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: but they still want to keep a safety there. So 338 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Abraham Campbellman, they're gonna look to him now. It appears 339 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: to bring a similar impact that he brought last November 340 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: with this defense because he's a smart player, heavy player, 341 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: and he's a downhill run defender, which is a very 342 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: rare trait when you're looking at a five pound safety. Yeah, 343 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be interesting how this 344 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: plays out on Sunday, because with Campbell coming back, what 345 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: I see in terms of who's going to be lined 346 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: up next to Blake Martinez, I think when Mike Petton 347 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: is bound and determined to stop the run, it's gonna 348 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: be b J. Goodson. When he wants to get a 349 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: little bit more creative, it's going to be Campbell. But 350 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: if the Packers just get back to maybe it being 351 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: those two guys instead of that revolving door that Matt 352 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Lafleur talked about. I think, you know la Fleur's point 353 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: was that that might allow all the other guys, not 354 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: only in the front seven but also in the back end, 355 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: to just settle into their roles in their positions. Amos 356 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: being one of those things I think who you know, 357 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: he's a he's a key communicator, he's he's sort of 358 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: one of those calming presence type of guys in the 359 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: back end. So we'll see. Like I say, I never 360 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: say it's always just in person or one change that's 361 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: going to you know, suddenly fix everything, because the Packers 362 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: have to get off blocks better and they have to 363 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: tackle better on defense. There there's no two ways about that. 364 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: If you're getting blocked and if you're missing tackles, there's 365 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: nothing Mike Petton is going to be able to do 366 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: from a scheme standpoint to help you. So that's where 367 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: it starts. But having guys mentally settling into specific roles 368 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: and knowing exactly what that role is every snap that 369 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: they're out there, and then being able to get those 370 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: reps play after play after play after play, I think 371 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: hopefully for the Packers, we're going to start to see 372 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: this defense put the last few weeks behind them and 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: start to trend in the other direction. Yeah, and we're 374 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to see what this week holds. Because Adrian 375 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: Nimis ends up missing practice on Wednesday. We're shooting this 376 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: before Thursday's practice. He has a hamstring. There's really no 377 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: injury history at all with Amos, so, I mean, he 378 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: basically played all four years in Chicago without missing a 379 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: game or maybe a one or two. So I don't 380 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: know what to read into that or what is availability 381 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: is going to look like. But to get Campbell back 382 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: at this time just very critical for the defense because, 383 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: as you said, Mike and I wrote about an inbox day, 384 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: it takes all eleven. It's not just one guy at 385 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: one position. It can turn the tide in a game 386 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: or a moment, but you need everybody playing together to 387 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: consistently series after series stop people. But you know, Mike, 388 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: you think back to you know, maybe two thousand and fourteen, 389 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: I think it was when Sam Barrington ends up being 390 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: an inside linebacker for this defense alongside Clay Matthews. That 391 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: makes a difference in some of the packages. You think 392 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: about Howard Green coming in in two thousand and ten. 393 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: There have been these moments where a late season edition 394 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: ends up contributing a big way. The Packers didn't win 395 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: a lot of games last year, but I thought Bashad 396 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Brelan brought that last season. So yeah, for Campbell's perspective, 397 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: it is just one player. But sometimes if you get 398 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: a guy in there and the defense starts to play 399 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: a little better, you start to get some of that 400 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: swagger back, you start to feel good about where you're sitting. 401 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm looking for from Campbell. I'm not 402 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: asking him to be the same player he was last year, 403 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: because that's a big ask for how well he played, 404 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: but I think he definitely set a standard that this 405 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that doesn't necessarily need a full training 406 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: camp or you know, multiple weeks to be ready for 407 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: a mo role. That he could move in there and 408 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: contribute right away, which is really valuable in this league 409 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: this time of the year. Yeah. Well, Ibraheen Campbell is 410 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: from Northwestern, so you know I have an affinity for 411 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: those players. And we'll close the show today by talking 412 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: about another Northwestern alum, and that's Danny Vitally. This game, 413 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: the Packers only home game in the month of November, 414 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: is the NFL Salute to Service Game at lambeau Field 415 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: for this year. You had a conversation earlier this week 416 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: with Danny Vitally. He is the Packers I guess you 417 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: call it the nominee the representative for the Salute to 418 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Service initiative in the NFL this year. And uh, you know, 419 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of interesting things that Vitally 420 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: talked about. Give us the summary. Yeah, So we'll have 421 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: a story on Packers dot com on Friday about this 422 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: and talking about some of his history with it and 423 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: in the different causes that he's been involved in. You know, 424 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: Danny got here a little over a year ago on 425 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: the practice squad, but in that entire time, whether he 426 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: was playing or not, basically went right up to Tony 427 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Fisher from our community Outreach department and said, you know, 428 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: any kind of things I can do, but specifically with 429 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: the military, I want to be involved with. So, I 430 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: mean he's visited different places. I know he was just 431 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: down at ash Gosh Defense a couple of weeks ago, 432 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: did a thing over here at the turn with Aaron 433 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: Rodgers and some players with you know, honoring vets. Uh So, 434 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: that's near and dear d in his heart. And it's 435 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: because it's kind of been ingrained in his family. Both 436 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: of his grandfather's served in the military. His brother, his 437 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: younger brother, Tommy, who actually played for a short time 438 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: at Northwestern as a linebacker. He's now enlisting in the 439 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: Navy and will be going out here in a little 440 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: less than a month now. Um So his cousin was 441 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: involved in the military. Uh in is Danny kind of 442 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: mentioned too. If he wasn't playing football, and if he 443 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: had n't met his wife at the right time, he 444 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: may too have gone that route as well. It's just 445 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: something that he has a huge dedication for. Uh It's 446 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: been ingrained in his family and ultimately he respects just 447 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: what that stands for in the sacrifices that people make. 448 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: He was blown away by getting the Packers nomination for this, 449 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: and and you know, it's something that he wasn't looking 450 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: for any type of gratification or appreciation for what he's doing. 451 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: It's just something that he does. But now that he 452 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: is that nominee for the Packers this season, it's something 453 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: that means a lot to him because of what he 454 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: hopes that that message could send, and not only this 455 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: locker room, this area, but the NFL as a whole 456 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: in in showing that appreciation to members of the military 457 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: and you know, soon to be his brother among them. Yeah, well, 458 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: it's always an interesting neat atmosphere, certainly in the pregame 459 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: with the with the Salute to Service game, with the 460 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: anthem and the flyover, all that kind of stuff. I 461 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: know that happens that you know, the flyovers happened at 462 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: other games as well, but usually it's, uh, it's it's 463 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: kind of one of those that makes you jump out 464 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: of your seat a little bit when it's the salute 465 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: disservice game. So we'll have that look forward to on Sunday, 466 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of great people in this organization that 467 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: have involved with this in the past. With Tom Bachen 468 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: t Bone from our equipment staff has been a multiple 469 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: time nominee. He also typically has a and and some 470 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: of those flyovers and you know, kind of welcoming those 471 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: you know members and you know servicemen and service women 472 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: from the military, you know, Air Force and those things, 473 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: you know, bringing them around Green Bay and Aaron Jones 474 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: as well with his parents who had a combined i 475 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: think fifty six years of military service as well. Um, 476 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: it's incredible, it's awesome, and it's neat for Danny. Congratulations 477 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: to him being the nominee this year. Yeah. Absolutely, with that, 478 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: we will call it a wrap on this edition of 479 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage 480 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: of the team on Packers dot com. You can subscribe 481 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: to us, like us on iTunes and other podcast services. 482 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Find him on Twitter at west hot I'm at Mike 483 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, 484 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: See you next time.