Speaker 1: All right, hey, it's the Boulet Cam podcast. Welcome, we
Speaker 1: got a cool episode today. Shout out to Younger ace
Speaker 1: Man Young and a dope artist out of Jacksonville, Florida,
Speaker 1: someone who I originally started fucking with around I want
Speaker 1: to say late twenty eighteen or early twenty nineteen. My
Speaker 1: boy Johnny Shipe signed him out of Jacksonville, Florida, the Cinematic.
Speaker 1: Now he's been involved in a pretty public dispute slash
Speaker 1: beef with Fulio, who I also interviewed. And you know,
Speaker 1: this is my thing with these kind of interviews, like
Speaker 1: there's like beef for like a serious man. I try
Speaker 1: not to add on to any any of that, you know,
Speaker 1: if anything, just try to take the approach of seeing
Speaker 1: if these guys have squashed their beef, you know. But
Speaker 1: we had a dope conversation man, and unfortunately he was
Speaker 1: running late and what probably would have been like an hour,
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Speaker 1: the young in A's Interview. Yo, it's a Boutlekev Show
Speaker 1: special guests. My bro Man young in Ace is here,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's finest it what's good, Bro? I feel like I
Speaker 1: ain't seen you in a couple of years. Man, it's
Speaker 1: been a little minute. Glow up is real though, trust
Speaker 1: trust I ain't even been in Atlanta a minute too.
Speaker 1: So bad it's crazy because, uh, the last time I
Speaker 1: saw you, I feel like it was a few months
Speaker 1: maybe six months after you got shot. Yeah, probably so
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was it was you came through
Speaker 1: your freestyle digit your thing. Yeah. I think you had
Speaker 1: like I think you were dropping this step harder that's
Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, if I like probably twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: early twenty nineteen, probably from nineteen. So yeah, so you're
Speaker 1: you're here man, and uh you know, the buzz is crazy. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're the jewelry is bigger, a lot more ice. How
Speaker 1: you feeling, man? How are you feeling right now? I'm good,
Speaker 1: not specially with my album going crazy right now top
Speaker 1: ten on Apple for then my first time going top
Speaker 1: ten for week straight. Really it's usually it's like what
Speaker 1: happens like day one and then it'll fall out right
Speaker 1: like day one, day two, day three, and they just
Speaker 1: go back to seventeen eighty, right, I'm saying like that,
Speaker 1: it's just going crazy. That's some thing. Like everybody's starting
Speaker 1: to like like really notice how raw I am? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they really starting to see
Speaker 1: the talent for and like the story that I'm telling,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like my sound and
Speaker 1: got way bigger from way in. I don't really like
Speaker 1: like what it's called like mature in my music facts,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they starting to just
Speaker 1: like really like notice like he actually you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying Like that so I'm really feeling good. I
Speaker 1: I put everything into that album. Bro, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, give me, give me, like the why, the
Speaker 1: name why. Life of Betrayal two times, Life Betrayal two times.
Speaker 1: See the first My first project came out with Life
Speaker 1: Portrayed the first life right after I got shot. So
Speaker 1: then this right now, this Life Betrayed two times. It's
Speaker 1: really like how life going? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I said, this is the biggest sound of me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So two times that's my
Speaker 1: little brother who had passed away that was in call right,
Speaker 1: so's everything two times, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: just stuff like that, but really like like betrayal, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My whole life, I don't
Speaker 1: been betrayed, you know what I'm saying. So they all
Speaker 1: play rolland like my whole life I've been I've been off,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like struggling going through it,
Speaker 1: no hell, you know what I'm saying. So all that
Speaker 1: I felt betrayed, like my whole life, like for family, friends,
Speaker 1: everybody who all left us just empty handed or just
Speaker 1: left us struggling you know what I'm saying. So all
Speaker 1: that just player rolling. Yeah, I mean, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it hasn't been any secret recently about Jacksonville and everything
Speaker 1: going on in Jacksonville. I feel like when we first
Speaker 1: linked up, Jacksonville was bubbling, but nationally it was really
Speaker 1: just you and Osiris for sure. But now it's like
Speaker 1: the hot bed of hip hop right now. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I'm really like, I'm fucking with it,
Speaker 1: like I love. I love to see like my whole
Speaker 1: city going crazy, like I never hated it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So my whole goal is for me
Speaker 1: to even to get get where I'm at and for
Speaker 1: to create opportunities from you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: like I said, it was no opportunities that nobody, nobody
Speaker 1: never made it outside of Jacksonville. So for me to
Speaker 1: get for me to get as big as I like
Speaker 1: I am now, it was on the right that I helped,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Everybody want to come to everybody,
Speaker 1: I go, grab a couple artists fro Jacksonville, bring them
Speaker 1: the one man we record, teach them the game, let
Speaker 1: them teach them what I know you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what I know and show them,
Speaker 1: like show them the routes, like you feel it's you
Speaker 1: do to take it. You know what I'm saying that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you guys definitely got it right now. Uh
Speaker 1: you know what, what what do you think is like,
Speaker 1: you know, for you being kind of the face of
Speaker 1: I mean one of the faces of the city obviously, right, Like,
Speaker 1: do you feel like you have any sort of responsibility
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, the generation that's coming after
Speaker 1: you kind of you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 1: you low key are like o g. You you've been
Speaker 1: active for like four or five years. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You ain't some young artists. You're you're young,
Speaker 1: but you're not like a new artist for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you can say that. Everybody was saying that,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know that's what everybody to say.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I don't I just I just
Speaker 1: want to help me like that feel on the album
Speaker 1: You got g Herbales on the album you just had
Speaker 1: him up here. Von Vaughn all Right, shout out to
Speaker 1: Luci See it's okay, And I got spinning bands and
Speaker 1: of course, of course, of course. But see, it's so
Speaker 1: crazy how my album played out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because like I don't really like even do features for you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I got see her
Speaker 1: her about you know, going and spaying what spins just
Speaker 1: got let up but going spaining and uh walk But
Speaker 1: like you know, Louci in jail in your situation going
Speaker 1: through it passed away. So it's so crazy because that
Speaker 1: shit going crazy, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy. Like two out of the I mean
Speaker 1: two the biggest features. I mean, obviously Vaughn's not here
Speaker 1: and and you know, free Lucci, you know, hopefully he
Speaker 1: gets out. Yeah, give me kind of like your take
Speaker 1: on why everything is so violent coming out of your
Speaker 1: city right now, because I feel like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate because there's so much talent coming out. But I
Speaker 1: feel like kind of like within the industry, when we
Speaker 1: think of Jacksonville, it's almost like it feels like the
Speaker 1: new Chicago when it comes to the rap ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's just a lot of just
Speaker 1: a lot of beef, a lot of fucked up energy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Why is that, man, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's like, uh, you know it's real for
Speaker 1: show like you know what I'm saying, but I don't.
Speaker 1: That's what. People just only want to see the bad.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They only see the bad.
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why it's like the way it is
Speaker 1: because they only want to see They only see bad.
Speaker 1: They don't like want to do good. They don't go
Speaker 1: even with the blows and all that. They don't post
Speaker 1: on everything good like when people be giving back or
Speaker 1: people do all. They only want to post negative. So
Speaker 1: that's why I get like this because not people for
Speaker 1: they got to do negative for me to for me
Speaker 1: to even be seen, you know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: So that's why it's like that. It's feel me like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy. It's crazy because it is good
Speaker 1: for business. Rap beef is good for business. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all the people like to see their attention. But
Speaker 1: it's bad because shit be real, it's people. People lose
Speaker 1: their life. You've had family lose your life. On the
Speaker 1: other side, people have lost their life and you know
Speaker 1: I had fully up here about a month ago. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the interview, but you know
Speaker 1: i'd ask them, you know, if he'd ever be open
Speaker 1: to talking to you and and and trying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not anybody to tell anybody how to
Speaker 1: behave when life is lost, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At the same time, and by the way, I you know,
Speaker 1: I held him on over the fire about the record
Speaker 1: he put out his response to your record, because I
Speaker 1: thought that that was not very low, low class move
Speaker 1: to do what he did, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But what what it like? Is there any sort of
Speaker 1: line in the sand. It's like that that that is
Speaker 1: even they that that would it comes to this ship
Speaker 1: anymore because y'all really man between who I smoke and
Speaker 1: the response, it seems like all bets are off. And
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up listening to Tupac do hit
Speaker 1: him up and this ship wasn't even as crazy as
Speaker 1: what y'all talking about. Bro, I don't really know, is
Speaker 1: there is there any like would you ever be open
Speaker 1: to having a discussion that, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't really I don't know him, like I've
Speaker 1: never seen him there before, right never. I don't even
Speaker 1: know you guys, have never had any discussion, no talks, nothing.
Speaker 1: I never seen none of these people before. It's like
Speaker 1: I said, people see bad. They want this to see
Speaker 1: the bad. Bro? What is the thing? Is? Like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna keep on performing who I Smoke because it's one
Speaker 1: of the hard harder songs in the man you're getting
Speaker 1: paid to do. The shows is getting played in clubs,
Speaker 1: and he's and he's getting the biggest eyes he's ever
Speaker 1: seen off of this ship that he put out. And
Speaker 1: it's like, there's what's the incentive to stop the violence?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Or even just I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like I'll be irresponsible to
Speaker 1: site you up here and and not and not bring
Speaker 1: it up to you know what I'm saying, I don't know, dude.
Speaker 1: For like, I ain't gonna lie too. I don't know
Speaker 1: know man all I never seen him before in like
Speaker 1: never we never even seen each other, never seen none
Speaker 1: of them. I never seen none of them. Nobody knows.
Speaker 1: They don't even know me. So that I say, like
Speaker 1: I ain't even like feel me goa say brom to
Speaker 1: the money like I ain't. I'm to the money when
Speaker 1: you when you were, he wrote throughho I smoke record
Speaker 1: obviously first of all, whose idea was the being it's
Speaker 1: being crazy great artist? But he really hard hard for sure.
Speaker 1: One thing about him bro his work ethics crazy through
Speaker 1: the roof for show for so, I mean obviously the
Speaker 1: genius idea. I for sure thought I was only going
Speaker 1: to live on YouTube. I was like, there's no way
Speaker 1: that this girl's clearing this record. This is the YouTube classic.
Speaker 1: But dope. So it's so crazy because I wasn't even Finela,
Speaker 1: like Finna get on the song for well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna get on it you feeling, But like I said,
Speaker 1: it was like it was different, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And one thing about seeing he ain't he
Speaker 1: ain't afraid to do something different, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: walk to walk crazy with it too and going you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they put it on. We
Speaker 1: all in the studios just vibing. So he's been standing
Speaker 1: for a couple of days like, oh, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this your time for like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when they put together he went in then walk
Speaker 1: went in, and when I went in, I ain't even
Speaker 1: mean to come like it, Like we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: sit there and write, so we just come on top
Speaker 1: of our head. So it's so crazy because I came.
Speaker 1: It's just who. But everybody knew it was gonna be big,
Speaker 1: Like everybody knew. Everybody had already heard the song. It
Speaker 1: was like a little like a love viral, little going
Speaker 1: on me in the studio like that. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: already knew it. And you and you talk to yourself,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say these names on this song, and this
Speaker 1: is a good idea. The news it worked. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it's a hit, right for sure. It's your biggest
Speaker 1: I mean it's the biggest record you've been a part
Speaker 1: of so far in your career. Yeah. Man, Vanessa Carlton
Speaker 1: clearing the record, was that something that caught you by surprise? Even, Yeah,
Speaker 1: com it did because I ain't never even like I
Speaker 1: never thought we'd ever cross paths one day in life.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We just think of white chicks.
Speaker 1: Ye got talked on the phone. I'm like, man, you
Speaker 1: you got song white chicks? She laughing, and we just
Speaker 1: laughing and vibe and she like that. So it's just
Speaker 1: like it was really dope though for her to even
Speaker 1: do that in the way she came out and open up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it all played, it
Speaker 1: all played his role and actually was a success. No,
Speaker 1: for sure, and you actually had some like conversations with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah she's she's solid. Yeah, she's solid for sure. She
Speaker 1: really real solid. She cool, she being her own world,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So she she dope
Speaker 1: from what I from what for what you feeling? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if anybody were to guess like a relationship
Speaker 1: that would transpired in music last on my guesses would
Speaker 1: be young and As and Vanessa Carlton for having supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing the tour or some shit like probably
Speaker 1: I think another yell she told me to come out
Speaker 1: if you if you open up on Vanessa Carlson tour,
Speaker 1: my my whole world is exploded. I can't. I want
Speaker 1: to do it. So but you know it's so crazy
Speaker 1: because I really I would tell them my label and stuff.
Speaker 1: I really wanted to like like do like her doing
Speaker 1: the piano, like uh I always called like a live
Speaker 1: like performance thing, you know what I'm saying, I want
Speaker 1: to do hell and the singing part all of just wrap.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, dude, everybody going to
Speaker 1: do their own part. She's just doing a cappella on
Speaker 1: the straight stripped down piano. It's gonna be so vildro.
Speaker 1: It was went too crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. With everything
Speaker 1: that's going on, you guys are kind of like the
Speaker 1: hot hot topic of the internet. There's documentaries about you
Speaker 1: and what's happened to your family and you know, your
Speaker 1: brothers that have been been taken, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: like one that's got like five million views on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a whole you know you
Speaker 1: I ran cross it. But see, all this should just be,
Speaker 1: like I said, it just be for the hype, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I don't really like they
Speaker 1: just be putting stuff together. They'd be outside people looking in.
Speaker 1: I doesn't say, but like, is that like an interesting
Speaker 1: position to be in where you're like there's like YouTubers
Speaker 1: making full fledged thirty minute documentaries about your trauma, your life.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's really bad. I don't
Speaker 1: really like when they do stuff like that because now
Speaker 1: I make the industry look at me in certain ways
Speaker 1: or that they feel like they can have me in
Speaker 1: certain places because of violence. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And they ain't what I'm trying to give out, Like
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. It's like you feel I'm mature.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to really like listen, let's let's get
Speaker 1: you feel me. Yeah, I want this money, Let's listen,
Speaker 1: let's I want greatness, I want Grammys, and I want
Speaker 1: all this, see all that. You can't get all that
Speaker 1: when you got violence, for when you got when you
Speaker 1: surrounded by violence. Niggas, they don't want that. To be fair,
Speaker 1: your biggest song is an extremely negative disc record. It's
Speaker 1: one of the most ruthless diss records in hip hop history.
Speaker 1: For sure. It's top two the other ones, the other
Speaker 1: guys want that he put out so like it's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like to be fair, do you think like like when
Speaker 1: you say, like if people look at you and they
Speaker 1: think of that, like, are they wrong to think of
Speaker 1: that right now? Because that's kind of like that's yes,
Speaker 1: they fault that's fair because they don't they don't like
Speaker 1: they just see that one record and they got so
Speaker 1: much music, Like no, you got catalog, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's I got so much great music
Speaker 1: sure stuff that I've not been studio ten hours a
Speaker 1: day every day, and I've been saying, like you you're
Speaker 1: not new. This is not like you didn't just come
Speaker 1: on the scene. You've been doing your thing, You've been putting.
Speaker 1: I just be thisssing, I don't know that. I ain't
Speaker 1: even me to even do that. I don't even like
Speaker 1: stuff I don't like I said, I don't even like
Speaker 1: the internet. I don't even play the internet role. I
Speaker 1: don't even like going back and forth with people. This
Speaker 1: ain't even this ain't even that you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I just what do you think is the biggest
Speaker 1: misconception about young age? Yeah, it's a lot of shit
Speaker 1: that people be missing, like what they miss misunderstood, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I feeling like people be
Speaker 1: trying to block me out because of certain ship like
Speaker 1: you feel I'm saying, bomb the gold for real for sure,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, see, it's so
Speaker 1: crazy because my life, it's real life. So this is
Speaker 1: why everybody grab gravitating to it. This is like this
Speaker 1: real life. This ain't just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's what making it like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The way they shaking it up, like they're shaking like
Speaker 1: shaking stuff up. The reason I'm to go for sure,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to open everybody's eyes. Now, you just I
Speaker 1: need people to open their eyes and really see what's
Speaker 1: going on. But really I really been trying to help
Speaker 1: people's See, that's one thing about me. I'm always helpful.
Speaker 1: I always been helpful, even when nobody will help me.
Speaker 1: I want to see everybody win. I ain't no crab,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. See my city full of
Speaker 1: crabs in the pot. I ain't crap. I never gotten
Speaker 1: that power with the crabs, was you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So just ship like that like one thing they I
Speaker 1: want the best for everybody. Is it still true that
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville you can't perform? Yeah? Man, they don't even
Speaker 1: let If I go out there right now, they're gonna
Speaker 1: blitz police, gonna blitz on your head out there. I
Speaker 1: ain't worry about no niggas, no people, No, No, I
Speaker 1: ain't worry about none of that. It's the police. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, man, police a kid. I mean, look, you
Speaker 1: know when it comes to just like the cops, and
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen so many examples of like you know,
Speaker 1: they're out for rappers, right I meant, I mean, look
Speaker 1: at you Look at what happened with pool Shist. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard, but they matched the dollar
Speaker 1: bill from his Instagram, the serial number on the dollar bill,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, to the scene of a shooting where
Speaker 1: the money came out the truck. They literally took a
Speaker 1: picture from Instagram and they lined up the serial number
Speaker 1: from the bills like that. Bro, that's that ship is
Speaker 1: that's the kind of ship they're doing. So you gotta
Speaker 1: be really careful. The motherfuckers ain't playing bro, I'd be
Speaker 1: out of the way. I'm not. So you don't even
Speaker 1: live in Jacksonville at this point. I moved. I've been
Speaker 1: moving Jasville. They've been made me move from out of there.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's it's so crazy. Now I look back
Speaker 1: on it, see, like I said, mature, so I'm me
Speaker 1: growing up. I look back and I say, there's a
Speaker 1: recent name. It's a good thing because who probably be
Speaker 1: dead in jail right now. That's fair because the way
Speaker 1: the type person is that like I can move with myself,
Speaker 1: Like I'm the type of person like if they want
Speaker 1: it came out, I would have just came by myself.
Speaker 1: I think the last time I saw you, you you
Speaker 1: weren't real deep. I think may they have one one
Speaker 1: two people with you know what I'm saying, don't even
Speaker 1: bed and that's you got your family with you. That's
Speaker 1: my little he's still high school. I just want to
Speaker 1: show him l A. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't want to show him like different stuff like and
Speaker 1: I don't be like cant. I can't even watch many
Speaker 1: people like that. I can't watch thouand people around. Most
Speaker 1: people do it for the look. Yeah, I just you know,
Speaker 1: I think that, like you know, I think the one
Speaker 1: the one thing I told like Shipes and h Vane
Speaker 1: when I first met you was like, yo, he's he's
Speaker 1: like got a good head on the shoulders. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're not You're not like a stupid
Speaker 1: ignorant kid, you know what I'm saying. And I just
Speaker 1: I don't want to see like I don't want to
Speaker 1: wake up one day and open up my phone and
Speaker 1: it be like young and age got shot because we
Speaker 1: see I do this. Shits happened so much. I'll interview
Speaker 1: somebody and they die, yo, bro, like this ship is real,
Speaker 1: dog like, you know what I'm saying. And that's why
Speaker 1: you know, I just like I never know what I
Speaker 1: definitely know it's real. That shot. No, I know, And
Speaker 1: you know you've lost family members, so you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I already know what life is like. I
Speaker 1: know what's like, what's going on? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And you got kids? Right? No, you don't got kids?
Speaker 1: Well that's good, you know that's I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: so you out here, then you got your brothers to
Speaker 1: take care of. You know what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 1: my girl too, Chloyd, my mom, I got a whole family,
Speaker 1: like for sure, Like how's mom like? When? Like how
Speaker 1: what was was? What was your mom's first impression when
Speaker 1: she saw who I Smoke and I'm my best friend?
Speaker 1: She loved that song. I'ma love that song. She played
Speaker 1: all day. My mama loved all my music. The video
Speaker 1: is that I think the video was like the icing,
Speaker 1: like like the icing on the cake because it was
Speaker 1: just like these guys are on a golf course, so crazy,
Speaker 1: ridiculous videos. It puts one, it puts one from the
Speaker 1: golf course to a house. Y'all did it the right way,
Speaker 1: and it was just went crazy. I just I already
Speaker 1: knew it was gonna do it like you but I
Speaker 1: already said that. We all knew it. But like down see,
Speaker 1: they knew it was gonna be bad, but they ain't
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be this big. I knew it was
Speaker 1: gonna get this big because like I said, I've already
Speaker 1: been so I know what like, I know what people want.
Speaker 1: I know what they you know what I'm saying. See
Speaker 1: the people we want stuff like that from me, but
Speaker 1: I'm not giving I don't like giving them that type
Speaker 1: of ship. You know what I'm saying. See, But like
Speaker 1: I said, bro, my mama, though my mama loved all
Speaker 1: my music like Life Betrayal, Life Betraying two times she
Speaker 1: played all day? Is your mam ever tell you like
Speaker 1: I didn't like this ship? That ship, wasn't it? I
Speaker 1: like the ship? You said on this man never told
Speaker 1: me never, just even when I get talking about her,
Speaker 1: she never told me that because you know all this,
Speaker 1: you're telling your story. Man, what's your favorite song on
Speaker 1: the new album? Man Life Betrayer two times? And my
Speaker 1: favorite every song? One that's so crazy, bro, I promise
Speaker 1: it's probably my is your best album, best album? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's so crazy, So I
Speaker 1: love it. I actually love every song on this album.
Speaker 1: But I love Doctor Child because my mama loved that
Speaker 1: the most. She loved giving up, to giving up. For
Speaker 1: giving up will be so big, Like two years from now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so big. I just I've been trying
Speaker 1: to tell everybody that two years when not gonna be
Speaker 1: so big. It's already. It's already my fast growing somewhere
Speaker 1: on YouTube right now. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: the second fastest this year. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Besides who I smoke, of course, of course. See, but
Speaker 1: Doctor Child was too crazy. Like when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done, man, like, do you ever think about like
Speaker 1: what younger ags Likegacy it's going to be in ten
Speaker 1: years in the rap game for the streets, I mean
Speaker 1: the rap game. You know what I'm saying. See, it's
Speaker 1: so crazy because I can't even see ten years, man,
Speaker 1: I'll still be trying to get through the day. That's fair, man,
Speaker 1: that's I don't really be. I be steps ahead, Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I be steps ahead. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: hope for the best, prepared for the worst, though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So i'd be I don't even
Speaker 1: see ten years right now. I want some more. Let's
Speaker 1: get lets get this ship done on the day that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's the type of mindset
Speaker 1: I got. Let's get this done to day then when
Speaker 1: we want tomorrow year and we know what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying Like that? What is who
Speaker 1: I smoke? S how to be close to going gold? Right?
Speaker 1: It's approaching gold. But that is your first plaque, right
Speaker 1: you have you already have a plaque, pust the plaque
Speaker 1: before I got a plat, I got a plant. Uh
Speaker 1: with Jady Young? Actually what is called what that's so called? Os? Yo?
Speaker 1: The ops smoking music out of Jacksonville at all time? Yo.
Speaker 1: When I had the other guy here, he said, in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville we make op killing music. That's the genre of
Speaker 1: rap we make. Do you agree with that? Because that
Speaker 1: seems to be like I mean, ship man, it's like
Speaker 1: that and y kal Cyrus. It's like it's like one
Speaker 1: extreme and then the other extreme exactly. It's so crazy
Speaker 1: that I said that that could they know like the
Speaker 1: whole sitting that's what the world wants, so they feel
Speaker 1: that's what they gotta do to blow. It's like they're
Speaker 1: leaning into it because they feel like that's what that's
Speaker 1: what that's what put them on and that's the only
Speaker 1: people people they want to see bad you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's so crazy how the world is
Speaker 1: like they always trying to tell you like, oh, you
Speaker 1: do this and do that. When you do this and
Speaker 1: do that, they don't show no attension, no attention. This
Speaker 1: might be the best song, this might be they this
Speaker 1: song is probably way you're all in this song. But
Speaker 1: because it's it's just negative, controversy, the negativity. So why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you. Yeah, you feel like you're almost incentivized to
Speaker 1: lean into that ship be five and feel me. I
Speaker 1: make real music if you had to cut anybody out
Speaker 1: of your team over the last like twelve months, because
Speaker 1: I feel like people a lot always because is that
Speaker 1: hard to do? Because yeah, get from around me. So
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I ain't gonna lie. I'm
Speaker 1: boys seeing that hard because because it's actually for people
Speaker 1: that I'm genuine like, I get people chance out chance,
Speaker 1: chance out chance, and he just continuously fuck it up.
Speaker 1: So are you? And it certain people got so many
Speaker 1: amount of times. He might got three times, he might
Speaker 1: got four, he might got eight yep, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And you might just got one ye yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And it's just be like the type of love that
Speaker 1: have with certain people. You you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So it be it be. It'd be hard sometimes like
Speaker 1: it be hard, but some people just gotta let go
Speaker 1: for the better. Hey, that's real, That's what I would say. Man,
Speaker 1: I think like you got a long career ahead of
Speaker 1: you if you and I know, it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: not lean into the bullshit because the bullshit is what's
Speaker 1: helping get you booked at these shows. And but like
Speaker 1: you had, it's about that longevity. And guess what, if
Speaker 1: you ain't here to appreciate what you're building, then none
Speaker 1: of this shit matters, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: the shows, none of the bags you're getting, right, now
Speaker 1: none of that shit matters, And so what you said
Speaker 1: is some real ship. Like it's hard, I'm sure for
Speaker 1: your your city, just kids coming up because they see
Speaker 1: what's getting attention out of Jacksonville and they're like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is what this is what people want out of
Speaker 1: our city, you know what I'm saying. So I don't
Speaker 1: want that to be the reason, though, Bro, you feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, even for people who like see
Speaker 1: the internet play so much of a powerful game, right
Speaker 1: it does. Man order for you to like sell hell
Speaker 1: or clothes or shoes or anything you want to be,
Speaker 1: basketball player, athlete, anything, the Internet player rolling it. So
Speaker 1: some people gotta do publicity stunts for them to get
Speaker 1: what they you know, I mean that why I just
Speaker 1: say this, man, You're a very talented kid. You make
Speaker 1: great music outside of, you know, the this ship. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, if there's anybody in your ear telling you
Speaker 1: to do more of that ship, get them the fuck
Speaker 1: up out of your team. Bro. You know, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Everybody everybody around me, don't they everybody around me don't
Speaker 1: even want to do ship like that. I mean because
Speaker 1: they probably care about you, bro, and they just know it.
Speaker 1: Any seeds. I don't win from that because I'm already
Speaker 1: right here. So people who down here and I get
Speaker 1: to bring if I get talking about them, it's like
Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't win. I'm not gaining nothing from that.
Speaker 1: Other people they don't gain from it because I'm because I'm,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm gonna be bigger. See, but they
Speaker 1: ain't what it is like. Yeah, if you got people
Speaker 1: who benefit off you financially telling you, hey, we don't
Speaker 1: like it when you do this ship, then they're real
Speaker 1: ones because it's in their best interest to just keep
Speaker 1: telling you to do the bullshit because it means more
Speaker 1: money for everybody. You know what I'm saying. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna be doing uh? You know now that COVID's fucking gone,
Speaker 1: well it's not gone. Did you ever catch covid? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I had that ship having you get the vaccine? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't doing I don't let people don't no vaccine
Speaker 1: for young and as none of that. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't even be around people to even get COVID. That's fair.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be doing any tours? Though? Since are
Speaker 1: you gonna be doing the tour thing? Just talking about
Speaker 1: the tour, So I'm waiting to see you figure o
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Vanessa Carlton actually does a tour and
Speaker 1: brings first of all, that would be fucking insane. That
Speaker 1: would be crazy too. Yeah, that would be I don't
Speaker 1: even know if that would that backstage dynamic of that
Speaker 1: tour you have you and your people and then it's
Speaker 1: Vanessa Carlton and like that ship. I don't I'd be
Speaker 1: what about just like, what are you doing with your
Speaker 1: bread man? You're investing? You getting into any sort of
Speaker 1: like you know, because I'm in the middle of trying
Speaker 1: to start this, uh, this truck company. So you get
Speaker 1: into the trucking game. I'm trying. I'm just one step
Speaker 1: away from finalizing everything. That's smart. Man, My boy does
Speaker 1: that like real estate, real estate and they ate that.
Speaker 1: Trucking businesses money though. Oh and then dogs, okay you
Speaker 1: start breeding dogs? What kind of dogs? The Frenchies, French bulldogs? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what made you want to get into the trucking game
Speaker 1: because that's like a that's like not the most glamorous
Speaker 1: like ship, but it's real money in that. Bro. It's
Speaker 1: so crazy because I'm one day on my my I'm
Speaker 1: in the may bad I got me maybe, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you gets on foot. So I call it
Speaker 1: tow Trucking, Tow truck Company. I'm like, hey, yeall gonna
Speaker 1: get me like you feel I'm saying, I tell you.
Speaker 1: So they're like a call by ten trucks. Right. It
Speaker 1: took them four hours to come. So now I'm on
Speaker 1: that argue with them. But it's so crazy because my
Speaker 1: whole time thing, I'm like, man, I'm gonna get I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get my own to truck company and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get my and from right there. I just thought about
Speaker 1: it right now. Then I got deeper, so I started
Speaker 1: reading into it, looking into it, and I got deep.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on, I'm gonna do the box trucks
Speaker 1: and all, just like you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you really get that truck shore, you get the routes popping,
Speaker 1: you hire you a driver to the ship booming, man
Speaker 1: like just go crazy. Oh yeah, no, that's smart, bro.
Speaker 1: Most rappers ain't thinking like you, buddy. I promise you
Speaker 1: that people open you know, I mean shit, I mean
Speaker 1: you did put a lot of money on that on
Speaker 1: that neck of yours though. Oh Yeah, Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: lot of ice brol It's just something slight. What is that?
Speaker 1: What kind of watch is that? Card? Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: actually know so crazy. My boy Vaughan had told me
Speaker 1: get just watch a word, get a AP. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: get the Cardiam And nobody ain't got that watch. That
Speaker 1: is some real ship. Nobody's got the Cardio. Everyone's got
Speaker 1: the AP or the Rolex. This is like last this
Speaker 1: is early last or the early last year, and it's
Speaker 1: right for my birthday. And I'm like, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We've just been telling about
Speaker 1: to get him, Like, bro, get me an ap. That's
Speaker 1: just unique in the rap game. Nobody's got a Cardier.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got that or the the uh protect. What was
Speaker 1: your relationship like with Vaughn Man, I'm a boy for sure.
Speaker 1: I don't really vowed people, right. He was one of
Speaker 1: the ones that for real, like outside of the music, definitely,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We talked about everything and boy,
Speaker 1: for sure, how did you guys initially link up Black?
Speaker 1: It's so crazy, bro, because I didn't even know who
Speaker 1: he was at first. I had had a show with
Speaker 1: Dirk dirking, you know what I'm saying, thinking all them
Speaker 1: like Virginia. So I'm walking past him, like I said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't even like famine. So I'm walking past him
Speaker 1: like what's something? But I ain't really hear him. I
Speaker 1: just walked right past, you know, everybody around him like
Speaker 1: case on all of them. Boy, they're like whatever, wine,
Speaker 1: like whatever, Why I go back over there? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My brother for yeah that Mama, like
Speaker 1: what's up? You go like yea was chopped? Look, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We said a few words at
Speaker 1: that night, but not too much, not to be like friends,
Speaker 1: but we're just cool like over time. Over that time,
Speaker 1: it was just like just talking like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not too much, just sliding up on your story.
Speaker 1: And one day he got on he got him the ankle, Mama,
Speaker 1: and I came to the a like pull up and
Speaker 1: I pulled up on him. From that day, it was
Speaker 1: something probably right before that too that I mean it's
Speaker 1: like offen the pull up tight. But it was from
Speaker 1: that there right though. It was just over it my
Speaker 1: boy and just went I was for like five six hours.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you can't move around. I'm just every time now,
Speaker 1: every time I came today, I was just with him, Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: come today, come today, and then here comes well, I man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Went from the Miami everywhere,
Speaker 1: was going just lenking out ever time. What was it like,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously finding out you know by his loss. Man,
Speaker 1: it was it was you know, it was Unfortunately we
Speaker 1: actually got we saw what happened. There's video of it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Said fun, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie and I ain't even been fun like that like that.
Speaker 1: I mean you've been through Yeah, you've had your brothers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, yeah, that she ain't
Speaker 1: kind of fun me because I fought with them and
Speaker 1: be feeling like every time something like that like yeah
Speaker 1: or something like that happened. So i'd be trying to
Speaker 1: that won't really be getting into like relationship. You said,
Speaker 1: uh that you were not around enough people to catch COVID,
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming you stay up out the way exactly. Fine.
Speaker 1: Died beefing with a guy not even in his own city,
Speaker 1: with another guy who ain't from his city either, some
Speaker 1: real rap ship really some internet ship, right, and like
Speaker 1: did that kind of like does that kind of like
Speaker 1: motivate you to move different when you when you saw
Speaker 1: what happened to him, because it's you know that shit's
Speaker 1: crazy to think he died in Atlanta. He's from Chicago
Speaker 1: beefing with the dude from Baton Rouge. Like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's you know what I'm saying. It's like it's so
Speaker 1: under It's just the wildest ship to me, bro like crazy,
Speaker 1: it's greet you know what I'm saying. So, but is
Speaker 1: that kind of like motivate you just kind of just
Speaker 1: stay out the way, like y'all you hitting the club
Speaker 1: or you staying home, Like you just stay home. There's
Speaker 1: no reason I ain't going nowhere. Yeah, you go get
Speaker 1: your bag. Otherwise you you at the crist So I'll
Speaker 1: be I'll be vibing, I be, I be, I'll be chilling.
Speaker 1: I don't really like I don't even like dealing with people.
Speaker 1: Only be one kind of recording songs. I never even
Speaker 1: record a song in the studio other rappers except like
Speaker 1: Vaughn and Jad who I just did so with nice.
Speaker 1: That's probably the only people I've ever been in the studio.
Speaker 1: How was how was being in the studio with Little
Speaker 1: YACHTI though, I ain't allow drunk, so I was like,
Speaker 1: he tried to He tried to give you some of
Speaker 1: his nail polish. Yati cool though. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he's being his own lane, and I kind of like
Speaker 1: he is. He kicked off a lot of this internet
Speaker 1: ship for a lot of artists. Man, everything he do,
Speaker 1: he just he got like people around working. He noticed
Speaker 1: that when I when I went there with him, I
Speaker 1: noticed everybody in there doing something, everybody working. So he
Speaker 1: had everybody working like that. That ship crazy, that smart. Hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have people around you, you you gotta have They
Speaker 1: gotta have a role, They got to do something. So
Speaker 1: you know, ship going on. Everybody's gonna hang out for
Speaker 1: the free food and the free trips. But you gotta
Speaker 1: know what, I need you to sit out and sell
Speaker 1: this merch at this table. You know what I'm saying. Work,
Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody came, man, somebody computer, somebody that's crazy?
Speaker 1: What what's what's the album is out? What's next for you? Though? Bro?
Speaker 1: I got two more albums. I'm trying to drop two
Speaker 1: more albums for the Okay, I'm trying to go crazy.
Speaker 1: I need to. I just want to like, like I said,
Speaker 1: I want to like damn something different. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Would you do like a compilation with with
Speaker 1: with the crew, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: a joint album? Yeah? Just you know, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was done. That was part of that was that
Speaker 1: was in there. But I got something I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like my little Chloyd mistakee my Chloy album. Yeah, step
Speaker 1: hard Okay. So it's gonna be it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: busy rest of the year for you. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I got I got so much music. I got so
Speaker 1: many I got so much music. I can release to
Speaker 1: something every day for the next three years. Damn, I
Speaker 1: record so much. That's some Tupac ship. Bro. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of music. Bro, I got a lot of shit
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Listen, man, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see you end up like Tupacs. Will do me a favorite, bro.
Speaker 1: Just you know, I ain't gonna tell you how to
Speaker 1: handle your personal business, but you know I would love
Speaker 1: to see you, uh squash whatever you got going on.
Speaker 1: And you know with the folio guy, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And and By the way, I ain't nobody
Speaker 1: for you to give a fuck about. I'm just look man,
Speaker 1: you're a good kid, and uh I think you know
Speaker 1: you gotta you got a long career ahead of you. Bro.
Speaker 1: So yo, the album is out, go fuck with it
Speaker 1: two times yo. Hopefully we see you on tour. Vanessa Carlton.
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would spend five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: on ticket to that show. I would actually spend like
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars just to hang out backstage, just to
Speaker 1: see what backstage was like at the Vanessa Carlton Young
Speaker 1: and Age Tour. Yeah for sure. Yeah all right, my gee,
Speaker 1: but thank you for pulling up brother perfect