1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm to bling a chalk reboarding, and we are moving 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: right along with our look at Civil War espionage. And 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: the last time we talked about Alan Pinkerton, who was 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: a famous private detective who organized the first Union espionage. 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: And so this time around we're switching sides and genders 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: to talk about a Confederate spy who belonged to what 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: you could consider maybe a spy subgroup that existed around 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: this time, and that's female spies. And this may come 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: as a surprise to those who picture Civil War era 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: women in the US is wearing these gone with the 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: wind style big dresses and grasping their smelling salts, just 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: waiting tearfully for loved ones to come home. But during 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the years leading up to the war, gender roles were 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: actually starting to evolve a little bit thanks to industrialization 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: in the North and the rising feminist and abolitionist movements, 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: and the war in some cases just really instigated that 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: change even more quickly, causing many women to stray from 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: their normal lives in order to work in hospitals, enlist 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: in the army sometimes or even spy, as we're gonna 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: talk about today. Yeah, so our podcast subject today, Belle Boyd, 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: was no exception to this sort of changing role for 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: women and eventually turning to spying. She wanted to help 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: out the Confederacy for several reasons, as we'll see, and 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: spying was just one way that felt natural for her. 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: She was known for using her feminine wilds to get information, 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: and Boyd consequently picked up some nicknames including LaBelle Rebel 29 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: and Cleopatra of the Succession, and she became famous for 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: her work as a spy both during and after the war. 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: But we've got to also look at how her efforts 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: helped the Confederate cause, because you can spy, but it 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: all comes down to the quality of the information you get. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: But before we talk about that, let's take a look 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: at how she got her start in espionage in the 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: first place. Well, she was born in May ninety four 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: in Martinsburg, Virginia, which is now part of West Virginia. 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: And from there, much like with Pinkerton's story, some of 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: the details that we found our up for debate, and 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: that's because a lot of what's been passed down over 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: the years about Bell's story came from her, and she 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: supposedly had a little tendency to exaggerate sometimes, which we'll 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about later. I think a 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: spy just has to have a murky background. It's not 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: right if if he or she doesn't. We do know, though, 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: that Bell came from a good southern family with Scottish roots, 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: and her parents were Mary Glenn Boyd and Benjamin Reid Boyd, 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and she was the oldest of eight kids and apparently 49 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: grew up quite a tomboy. She'd climb trees, she'd ride horses, 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: she was headstrong, she was determined, and apparently her parents 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't really do that much to check her behavior. She 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: was kind of indulged. No. For an example, there's the 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: story in Peggy Caravan to his book Petticoat Spies, Six 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: Women Spies of the Civil War about how she once 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: crashed a parent's dinner party when she was only eleven 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: years old. Apparently they told her that she was not 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: old enough to go to this dinner party, so she's 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: not happy about that, and at the end of the 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: dinner party, people are just starting to get up and 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: she rushes into the room on her horse in the 61 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: dining room. Her parents are really angry, of course, but 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: they don't punish her because the rest of the guests 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: are so amused by this. Yeah, it would make a good, 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: good story to go home and tell your family. But 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: she was still even though she was this sort of tomboy, 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: she was still raised to be a refined Southern Bell, 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: and at age twelve, her parents sent her off to 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Mount Washington Female College in Baltimore to complete her formal education, 69 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: and four years after that, she made her debut in 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Washington Society in eighteen sixty. But that's kind of an 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: interesting year to make your debut because just one year later, 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: the Civil War started, and said eighteen year old Bell 73 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: had to go back home to Martinsburg to help raise 74 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: money for the Confederacy and eventually serve as a nurse too. Yeah, 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: and her father left to volunteer for service in the 76 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: Southern Army as well, so he wasn't at home on 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: July three, eighteen sixty one, when Federal troops occupied Martinsburg, 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: and the very next stay July four, if the Yankee 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: troops started loading houses and generally just vandalizing in the town, 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: destroying things and the soldiers had heard that Bell in particular, 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: had decorated her room with rebel flags, so a squad 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: of them went over to the Boyd House and their 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: intention obviously was to take down those flags and raise 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: a Union flag instead over the house. So they get 85 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: over there, they start ransacking the place looking for the flags. 86 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, the family servant is getting rid 87 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: of all the flags. She's taken them down and burns 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: them just before they get to Bell's room on the 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: second floor. But a soldier is angry anyway about the situation, 90 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed, Yeah, and he's deciding any exactly, and 91 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: he decides he wants to ho hoist a flag anyway. 92 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: So Belle's mom at this point says, and then every 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: member of this household will die before that flag is 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: raised over us. So pretty strong words here, definitely fighting words. 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: So at that point the soldier apparently cursed at her 96 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: and used some pretty filthy language, and Belle was just outraged. 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: She wrote later quote, I could stand it no longer. 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: My indignation was aroused beyond control. My blood was literally 99 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: boiling in my veins. So she pulled out a gun 100 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: and shot the guy and the soldier died soon after that. Yeah, 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: she got arrested, as you might imagine, soon after this. 102 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: An investigation followed, but a Union commander actually ruled that 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: it was a justifiable homicide and that she had quote 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 1: done perfectly right and placed a detail around their house. 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of unclear to me. Different sources say different things. 106 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Some say that he placed the detail around their house 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: to protect them, Others say that it was to prevent trouble. 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: But many say that it's year while she was becoming 109 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: acquainted with the soldiers and the detail placed around her 110 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: house that Bell actually got her start as a spy, 111 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: just basically flirting with them, chatting them up. That's where 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: she was able to overhear Union plans and get them 113 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: to divulge important pieces of information that she been quote 114 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: regularly and carefully committed to paper and at any opportunity 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: sent by secret dispatch and trustee messenger to Confederate officers. Yeah. So, 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: by eighteen sixty one, Bell's position got a little more official. 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: She joined the Confederate Intelligence and General's PGT. Beauregard and 118 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Thomas J. Jackson Stonewall. Jackson used her as a courier 119 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: and she was really good at this because she knew 120 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: the Shenandoah Valley really well and she had excellent horsemanship skills. 121 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: So in those early days, though she wasn't quite careful 122 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: that that part of the spies tool set hadn't really 123 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: developed yet. She didn't use code, she didn't try to 124 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: disguise her handwriting, and so in late eighteen sixty one, 125 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: the Union started to notice her. They started to catch 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: on when they found a message in her handwriting signed Bell. 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Pretty obvious. Yeah, So they picked her up and they 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: read her the Articles of war at Union headquarters and 129 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: told her that the penalty for spine was death, which 130 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: she probably knew. But then they released her after that, 131 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: and according to Kravants, they didn't think that a seventeen 132 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: year old girl could do any harm, so, as we'll 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: see later, they probably should have thought better at that. 134 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: But after that incident, Belle's mom was a little worried. 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: She sent her to stay with relatives in front Royal, Virginia, 136 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: which was forty miles to the south of Martinsburg, so 137 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: she basically thought Bell would be safer there. You might 138 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: think that her mother would have gotten a little worried 139 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: after Bell killed a man, but I guess the last 140 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: straw you're very You're very sharp there. But regardless, she 141 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: thought she'd be better off in front Royal. That wasn't 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: necessarily the case, though. After a relatively quiet winter there, 143 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Bell was up to her old tricks again, gleaning info 144 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: from soldiers and aunt Royal, who were smitten with her. 145 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, she was at this time considered to be 146 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: a great beauty, and so they would write poems for her, 147 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: bring her flowers. According to American History, she said of 148 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: one captain quote, I am indebted for some very remarkable effusions, 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: some withered flowers, and last but not least, for a 150 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: great deal of very important information which was carefully transmitted 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: to my countryman. So she's a flirtatious spy. But it 152 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: was supposedly one of those gullible guys who she flirted 153 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: with who tipped her off on a Union Council of 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: War that was going to be held in the drawing 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: room of her aunt's old house in the spring of 156 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty two, and Bell, the former tomboy that she was, 157 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: knew that there was a hole in the floor of 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: the bedroom closet right above the drawing room where these 159 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: men would be meeting, and so she's snuck in there 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: to eavesdrop, and while she was in there, she learned 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: that General James Shields planned to take most of his 162 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: troops out of the Front Royal to aid an assault 163 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: on Richmond. And she eventually passed this information onto her 164 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: side in a coded report. She's sort of getting a 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: little smarter about that type of thing by now. Yeah, 166 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: so by now she's passed on some info on maybe 167 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: the number of troops and some of their plans. And 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: this is significant because at the time, Jackson was on 169 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: what became known as his Snandoah Valley campaign, basically fighting 170 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: for control of the Shenandoah Valley and hoping to distract 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Union troops from attacking the Confederate capital of Richmond. But 172 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: it's tough to say how much Bell's work really influenced 173 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Jackson's decisions here. However, the next move she made is 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: generally considered her biggest success in intelligence work. Specifically, on 175 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: May eighteen sixty two, as Jackson's forces were approaching, Bell 176 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: happened to speak to a Union officer and she learned 177 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: that Shields and his men were planning to burn the 178 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Front Royal Bridges as they withdrew from town to slow 179 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: the Confederates pursuit of their army. Yeah, so Bell realized 180 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: that Jackson would have to speed up his attack if 181 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: he was going to make it across those bridges and time, 182 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: and she tried to get somebody to ride out to 183 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: hit Jackson's camp and tell and pass on this vital information, 184 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: but no one was willing to risk riding out between 185 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: the two armies, so Belle decided to just do it herself. 186 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: She grabbed her white sunbonnet and ran across the gap 187 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: with bullets just whizzing past her while she was going, 188 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: and by the time she finally reached the Confederate side, 189 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: she was gasping for air, but managed to get out 190 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: her message to Stonewall and Jackson and his troops attacked 191 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: quickly after after they got this news and managed to 192 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: save the front Royal bridges so they save their means 193 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: of access, and also captured some enemy weapons and supplies 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: while they were at it, and this consequently forced the 195 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Union troops to retreat and position the Confederates to move 196 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: on Winchester behind the Union army. So it was a 197 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: pretty valuable piece of information. That produced a big result. Yeah, 198 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: and Jackson wrote Bell a note later that said quote, 199 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Miss Bell Boyd, I thank you for myself and for 200 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: the Army, for the immense service you've rendered your country 201 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: today hastily. I am your friend T. J. Jackson. So 202 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: she got a personal thank you note from Stonewall. Yeah, 203 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. So with that big success behind her, 204 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: an approval from this great officer of the Confederate Army, 205 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Bill continued to work as a career slash spy after that. 206 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: But in July eighteen sixty two, at the age of eighteen, 207 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: she was still really young, then she was arrested for 208 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: espionage on the orders of the Secretary of War Edwin Stanton. 209 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: And she'd been arrested several times by this point of record. Yeah, 210 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: she got arrested a lot of times, but she was 211 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: usually able to kind of talk herself out of it. 212 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: But this time she ended up going to Old Capitol 213 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Prison in Washington. She actually didn't have such a bad 214 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: time there though. She was kind of treated as a 215 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: v I P. Admirer sent her special food and things 216 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: like that, and she was released in a month as 217 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: part of an exchange of prisoners. So I mean, I 218 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: think her health deteriorated a little bit. So it wasn't 219 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: like paradise or anything. But she was as bad as 220 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: it could have been. It wasn't she was treated differently 221 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: from other prisoners because of her celebrity status. Yeah. But 222 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: by July eighteen sixty three, she was again sent back 223 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: to Old Capital Prison, this time for six months, and 224 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: it was worse this time. She did get sick with 225 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: typhoid fever, and when she was released to Richmond, she 226 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: got a warning not to be caught within federal lines again. 227 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: So it seems like the Union is finally taking this 228 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: girl pretty seriously. Yeah, But it also means because they 229 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: are taking her seriously, she's not as effective as a 230 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: spy in Northern Territory anymore. So she decided to serve 231 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: the South by carrying messages to Southern sympathizers in England instead, 232 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: so pretending that she was going to go on a 233 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: trip to improve her health, she set sail on a 234 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: blockade running ship called the Greyhound in May eighteen sixty four, 235 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: but a Union gunboats stopped and boarded them before they 236 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: had even crossed the international border. Fortunately for Belle, though 237 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: the commanding officer is a young Union man named Samuel Harding, 238 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: and his commission is to take the ship back to 239 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: US Port. But before they reached the port, Bell had 240 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: worked her magic again and Harding had fallen in love 241 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: with her and switched his allegiance and even allowed the 242 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Greyhounds Confederate captain to escape. And consequently, harding superiors were 243 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: not pleased by this change of allegiance. He was court martialed, 244 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: and rather than go to prison, Belle asked and was 245 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: granted permission to go to Canada, with the understanding that 246 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: if she ever was caught on US soil again, she'd 247 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: be shot. But she's not in Canada for very long. No, 248 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: After just a few months, she sails to England and 249 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: her service to the South has pretty much been as 250 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: she meets with a Confederate agent and she gets there 251 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: and says that she destroyed the message she was supposed 252 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: to be carrying when her ship got boarded, and so 253 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: it's done at that point. Yeah, I guess she took 254 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: it out last threat pretty seriously. But the rest of 255 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: Bell's life was pretty fascinating too. It could really be 256 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: a separate podcast. Harding followed her to London, after the 257 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: Navy dismissed him and the two of them got married. 258 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: Wasn't a relationship that was going to last very long though, No. 259 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: Soon after the wedding, Harding returns to the US, planning 260 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: to run the Union blockade and actually work for the Confederacy. 261 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: But he's caught and imprisoned and falls very ill. So 262 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: he's allowed to return to England, but dies after a 263 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: few months, leaving bell a pregnant widow at the young 264 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: age of twenty. Yeah, so she's got a daughter now 265 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: to support Grace, and so she writes a two volume 266 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: book called Belle Boyd in Camp in Prison to sort 267 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: of support herself and her her young family. And it 268 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: suggested that a lot of this volume was in Bella. 269 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: She was trying to sell copies after all. And then 270 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: after that she embarked on a theatrical career and told 271 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: her experience, told about her experience as a spy on 272 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: the stage, again laying it on pretty thick, creating this 273 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: character of Belle Boyd that was something a little bigger 274 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: than she had even been in life. Yeah, I mean, 275 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: some sources suggest that a lot of the details that 276 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: she put out there, her bravery and the dangerous element 277 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: to her missions. A lot of that was exaggerated, and 278 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people think that when she 279 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be carrying the message to England, there 280 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: really was no message. She just she was just going 281 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: to She was just going to England. Um. So you know, 282 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: we may never know some of those details. But in 283 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty six, after she embarked on this uh theatrical career, 284 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: she and her daughter were allowed to return to the US, 285 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: where she continued her stage career under the name Nina Benjamin. 286 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: And she remarried twice, once in eighteen sixty nine to 287 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: a wealthy businessman and former union officer. A second husband 288 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: who was a former union officer, which I think is interesting. 289 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: She seemed too um and she had three kids with him. 290 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: They divorced fifteen years later, though they didn't really have 291 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: a very happy marriage. But just six weeks after that, 292 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: she married again to a poor twenty four year old 293 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: actor named Nathaniel Ruhai Jr. And she was forty one 294 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: at the time, so there was a huge age difference there, 295 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: and she had to start working again since he didn't 296 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of money, So she started giving dramatic 297 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: speeches about her experiences during the war, and it was 298 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: while she was on one of those speaking tours that 299 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: she died of a heart attack on June top nineteen 300 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. She was buried there. She's still there and 301 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: a long way from home. Yeah, definitely Confederate spy. She 302 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: was buried in Wisconsin. Yeah, in the Wisconsin Dells, I think. 303 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: And her grave was actually unmarked for a while. Yeah, 304 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: it was unmarked because I think they thought that her 305 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: people in Virginia were going to send for her because 306 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: she was so well known there, and they never really did. 307 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: So other people paid for her to have a headstone. 308 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: And I bet this is a factor. Are Wisconsin listeners 309 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: are gonna like we learned recently in the King of 310 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Beaver Island up though, that people from Wisconsin are pretty 311 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: into hearing their state talked about on the podcast. Yeah, So, 312 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: if anyone has been to Bell Boyd's grave or knows 313 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: anymore about this area or any of the activities that 314 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: go on here around the Moorial Day, because I hear 315 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: they kind of honor her around Memorial Day every year, 316 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: let us know, send us a picture. Yeah, But before 317 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: we totally sign off on the spell Boyed episode. I 318 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: think it's interesting to point out that in her later years, 319 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: when she was giving these talks, these speeches, she'd start 320 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: to emphasize the union of the North and the South 321 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: more and more. She would end her speeches with the 322 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: quote one God, one Flag, one people forever. So in 323 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: the end she actually ended up winning the approval of 324 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: both sides. Yeah, so she was the LaBelle rebel when 325 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: she's a young person, but she ends up being kind 326 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: of a patriotic American in her in her older years. Yeah, 327 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: she even became really popular with UM Union veterans. So 328 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: while we're talking about the Civil War and the Confederate 329 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: sy in particular, we might as well read a listener mail. 330 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: So this email is from Zach and he wrote in 331 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: after our little shipwreck mini series we did a while back. 332 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: He said, good afternoon, ladies. I just listened to part 333 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: two of your Shipwrecked mini series and heard you talk 334 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: about the Huntley. Well that is amazing because just recently 335 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I interviewed one of the archaeologists who has been working 336 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: on the Hunley since it was pulled out of the 337 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: waters here in Charleston. He agreed to be interviewed for 338 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: my podcast called Our List. The archaeologist agreed to be 339 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: on the show and share his top five turning points 340 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: in history, but the interview about his work on the 341 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Hunley in archaeology in general was so interesting we dedicated 342 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: two episodes to him. Some interesting tidbits. The officer in 343 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: charge had been shot in the leg a few months 344 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: prior at Antietam, I think, and his legs would have 345 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: been more damaged and amputated, but a coin in his 346 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: pocket saved him. That coin was found in the Hunley, 347 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: dented and with the date he was wounded etched in it. 348 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: A little memento there. And his next point was before 349 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: the Hony was discovered, there was much discussion about what 350 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: it actually looked like and even how many people were inside. 351 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: Once they saw it, they discovered it looked very much 352 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: like a famous painting made at the Honley before its 353 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: last mission. For years no one knew if that painting 354 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: was accurate or not, but found that it was very 355 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: detailed and had even helped them figure out what a 356 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: few of the exterior parts would have looked like new. 357 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: So thanks for these sort of Hunley insider tidbits from 358 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: an archaeologist involved in its excavation. Good to know. Yeah, 359 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: so many cool stories surrounding the Hunley and and the 360 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: people who died inside it and discoveries that have been 361 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: made since. So definitely thank you for sending that in. 362 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: So if you have any more Civil War spies you 363 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: want to hear about, We've had a lot of fun 364 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: talking about Pinkerton and Belle Boyd and I'm sure there 365 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: are so many more out there, or just other Civil 366 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: War stories you want to hear. As you know, we're 367 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: sort of continuing a leisurely civil War series since we 368 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: just hit that big anniversary this year. Uh, let us 369 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: know by email or at history podcast at how stuff 370 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: works dot com. Can also find us on Facebook or 371 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: on Twitter at myston History. 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